July 24, 2014

The Evolution of WeeSeeYou to Pragmatic Obots Unite!

Okay fam, WEE mysteriously disappeared for almost a week last week and you all want to know what happened. The truth is, we were left “homeless” just like you were and had to find a new home. Hopefully this post will (put this matter to rest) give some background of who we are, how we came to be, who we were and what we are heading for the future.


Back in 2008, Miranda, Sepia, Alex, CarolinaGirl, Webb, some others as well as myself (Pbomb) used to post on a well-known blog named Jack and Jill Politics. As a group we were all supportive of then Candidate Barack Obama for President and we all made that known. Unfortunately, the atmosphere at JJP changed and we noticed it. After President Obama was elected, it got worse. There was a larger influx of trolls and there were things that were said that as a group we fundamentally called out. So Webb and others, decided to break away from JJP and start up the site WeeSeeYou. I was asked to be a blogger, as well as Miranda, Sepia, Alex and CarolinaGirl. The mission of the blog was to be an unbossed and unbought place for supporters of the President. Like any newbie blog, we had our ups and downs, the original group of trustees we started with dwindled down and guest bloggers came and went.


No matter what happened, a major part of our mission was always being pragmatic and unapologetic supporters of America’s first African-American president. This is a badge of honor we carry with pride.

The last two years were wonderful. We all worked hard to keep the site going and each one of us pitched in when we could. We were able to build a community that welcomed unapologetic supporters of this wonderful, intelligent, hard-working and pragmatic president. Over the last 6 months things started to change internally when Webb, the main moderator of the site, started to take a different path from the rest of the group.

He started questioning the President’s leadership, attacking PBO’s choice of Elena Kagan as a Supreme Court Justice. Our position of criticizing the CBC’s back-stabbing tactics was attacked and he started to question the dedication of guest bloggers (who called him out), as well as the work of others(myself included) to the blog. He stopped responding to emails, and began to become belligerent towards fellow trustees on the site by lobbing personal insults.

He didn’t like the crosspost Miranda published from Tom, who spoke on the parallels between black leadership, MLK and President Obama.

The final straw was a huge disagreement concerning the lack of work Maxine Waters had done for unemployed blacks. Several commenters and the WSY trustees called him out on his responses. Afterwards, he closed down our Twitter page that night and then closed the site the next morning, without letting any of us know. He took his ball and went home because his ego was hurt. He didn’t let us know that he was shutting down anything. Please feel free to read some of the last comments he made before shutting down the site to get a clearer picture:

I didn’t do a poll, but Gallup did…26% are in favor of PBO’s economic strategies…go figure.
The people wanted PBO to fight for them, but PBO didn’t trust the People to have his back. If PBO doesn’t trust that the people will have his back, then why should the American people trust that PBO will have their back???? IT IS A FAIR QUESTION. IT IS A QUESTION THAT THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE will ask 8 months from now.


PBO’s TEAM didn’t have the wherewhithal to ENGAGE the PEOPLE to EFFECTIVELY have the back of this President??? They FAILED Him.


I have little patience for WEAK ASS KNEEGROWS who want to kiss the assess of SIX-FIGURE COMPENSATED WEAKLINGS such as Axelrod/Plouffe/Messina who can’t figure out an effective strategy to ENERGIZE DEMOCRATS while SIMULTANEOUSLY inspiring the American Electorate.


I’m cacophonous…may I recommend: ThePeoplesView.net hosted by Sandal Chakraborti.

Another:

I watched MeetThePress tonight (I was busy this morning), Gibbs was spouting, “The Congress did this! The Congress did that!”


Hiding behind the Congress is a “LOSING” strategy. Hiding behind the “CBC” is a LOSING strategy. If someone tells me that they want to be “above” politics, then they should be striving to be a part of the Judicial Branch. Be a judge.

In the presidency, people want a LEADER, not a JUDGE.

The Judicial Branch was never designed to lead the US. The Legislative Branch was designed to make laws, not enforce them. The Executive Branch was designed to LEAD, Enforce and Execute the laws. That’s why the Articles of Confederation were scrapped…Because the USA needed a CHIEF Executive to LEAD IT.

I agree; there is a vacuum of leadership that needs to be filled.

Last one:

I love the “fighting spirit” of the WSY Fam.


I’ve been accused of theatrics, but there’s nothing more theatrical (or hypocritical) than watching people who clearly have a “fighting spirit,” so easily contradict themselves in the face of adversity.


Where is your “Pragmatism?” Where is your “Spirit of Compromise?” Oh, it only applies to white independents in Iowa, not homeless blacks in Detroit.


GET THAT DUMB SHYT THE FUCK OUT OF MY FACE.


You applaud a compromise with the Tea Party but when Maxine Waters holds a “job fair” for unemployed AAs in Atlanta, you take offense???????????????????


YES, as far as I’m concerned, YOU ARE FUCKED UP BEYOND RECOGNITION.


I’m trifling???? Let me point you to the thepeoplesview.net, where Deaniac83 a/k/a Mr. Chakraborti will take great care of you.


Furthermore, JJP might be a better spot for you too. Since you like carrying water for white people like Plouffe and Axelrod, gone ahead an carry water for Mistress Jane too…if that’s what you want to do.
I’m not co-signing any of this bullshyt.


So now, here we were without a home for the first time in two years. All of our hard work and energy apparently washed down the drain. With no further recourse (as we have yet to hear from Webb) the remaining trustees (PBomb, Miranda, Alexander2, Sepia and Carolinagirl) got together and created this site that I am proud of. WeeSeeYou was the brain child of Webb. He created the site and invited us in as trustees (each with different responsibilities and one of his main responsibilities was upkeep of the site). Yes, WSY was a site that started to gain attention across the blogosphere and even recognition from Rev. Al Sharpton (although it’s great that he has read our site). All of that was great, but ultimately that’s not why we are here.

We are now part of a network of Pro-Obama blogs, some who (by the way) have “Obama” in the title. We were not in this for “great branding” or “snazzy titles”. Neither were most of you when you came on board. This is a haven among several places for President Obama supporters among the black political blogosphere. You are free to discuss anything about black news and entertainment, same as before.



We don’t know what the future holds for the old WSY moniker. As of today the site is still in “maintenance mode” which means it isn’t gone. In about a month, we shall see what will become of our old home, but now we must move on. It was hard for us at first, but we knew this was coming. Pragmatic Obots Unite trustees are made up of some wonderfully talented professionals in the real world and we are looking forward to what the future has in store for us. There will be constant small tweaks and changes to the site over the next several months and we hope you all will continue to be patient and sit back to enjoy the ride.

Feel free to drop any concerns or questions in the comments section and we will respond.
  • TrulyPC

    Well through all of that POU was born and I for one am looking forward to seeing what is to come!

    • http://www.democratsforprogress.com/ Cha Eva

      I agree..so many times the growing pains are outrageous but something even more beautiful emerges.

  • Admiral_Komack

    Thank you for the back story.
    Now, where’s the bad chair…;-)

    • Freder421

      what you done did?

      • Admiral_Komack

        Just wanted to make sure the place was furnished.

        • PBomb

          We actually have upgraded to a bad sofa, I am sure we will have to save up a bad sectional. But the sofa will do.

    • GreenLadyHere

      HEEY Admiral – —***BIG HUG*** :>)

      LOL. – - -Jus’ -POSTED some NEW furniture 2 ACCOMPANY the –”BAD CHAIR.” :>)

      – - – - -THIS.

      – - — Orrrrr – —THIS! :>) – — –

      Lookin 4 MORE. :>)

      Good 2 C U. :>) – - — YES –there will B SNACKS! :>) LOL. :>)

  • gc

    That was fascinating, but sad. It does sound as though your founder…changed. But I am thrilled at the result of the fallout. Suerte!

  • Soccermom91

    wow, just wow! i missed you guys for that week (seemed like much longer), but i am happy WEE found a new home! i got out of lurker mode, and i am out for good! look forward to us moving on up together!!!

    • GreenLadyHere

      HEEY soccermom91. ***BIG HUG** :>)

      Yaaaaa!. Good 2 C U. :>) Have a nice evenin’. :>)

      • Soccermom91

        thanks, GLH!!! i hope you are having a good night. i feel like i am at a family reunion, lol (plus, you know your hugs always make me feel special)!!

  • Bri

    I still love the website even with the changes. I am happy that you all are back, and I did not have to wait until Sept 21.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GIQMY4KEE2UAH3X3DCFYGB5UXY Desraye

    The way the owner behave the old we see you will probably be more anti-Obama. I hope that others would find their way here. Maybe when they look at the old site they will run away.

    • Town

      What “WeeSeeYou” will become is a black anti-Obama site.

      There’s much more money to be made nowadays being a black anti-Obama blogger/site.

      • eclecticbrotha

        Yup

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GIQMY4KEE2UAH3X3DCFYGB5UXY Desraye

        So it will become JJP2?

      • http://progressivepoc.com/ princss6

        Well of course, there is the appearance that his most loyal “fans” are now turning on him, too.

        Won’t let nobody turn us ’round…

  • Ebogan63

    I had figured that something happened. I had never felt like engaging him, cuz I felt his takes were weak sauce and trifiling, and insulted the intelligence, insightfulness of the other trustees and commenters.

    His idea of ‘leadership’ is dated and theatrical.

    • aleth

      Yep!!!! Yep!!! Weak sauce is the word. And Webb knew it tooo… Nothing scarier than when you feel you are losing something you built and can’t keep up with the intelligencia coming out of folks writting.. .so you have two choices… let it evolve and progress OR shut it down. He chose the later.
      We all need to be chanllenged from our asertion and that’swhat i enjoyed but some people are frightened of not looking like the smartest person in the room.

      • eclecticbrotha

        There’s a third choice: adapt to a knew role of recruiter/scout of fresh progressive voices that adhere to the basic premise of creating the site in order to attract more traffic and grow the pragmatic community’s influence on the blogosphere. Too much? Maybe for someone who lacks vision; but the overwhelming response to GG’s attack on blackwaterdog a few months back should have told everyone that there’s a huge, untapped community of Obama supporters that do not agree with the conventional wisdom pumped out by the likes of MSNBC, Salon, Daily Kos, etc etc. are not being served by their short list of self-appointed “true” progressives claiming to be Obama’s base.

        As the saying goes: “get in where you fit in”

        • aleth

          agreed

  • GOVCHRIS1988

    Wow. Well ok then. That was some belligerent shit Webb wrote up there. I’m used to seeing that from StevenD over at Booman and such, but never from Webb. Well I guess like me and Dailykos a year ago, I guess I will retire from WeeSeeYou, sad to say. I’m here to stay right here though.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GIQMY4KEE2UAH3X3DCFYGB5UXY Desraye

      Yes, Steven D of Booman’s is the reason why I can’t tolerate that place sometimes.

      • Kennymack1971

        Agree with you about Steven D…total beating. Which is unfortunate because Booman is usually so on point.

        • eclecticbrotha

          StevenD tipped his hand to me when he rushed to embrace the “Professional Left” handle as soon as it flew out of Robert Gibbs’ mouth.

  • MsKitty

    Thanks for shedding light, as this pretty much confirms every suspicion I had about what went down. I’m just really sad that all the content on WSY is likely lost forever.

    At any rate, thanks for creating a new home for all of us.

    • PBomb

      Some of our work isn’t completely lost. We were able to retrieve some work before we were blocked.

  • GOVCHRIS1988

    Not only that, but his “knowledge” on the Articles of Confederation are wrong. We didn’t rid ourselves of the Articles simply because the country wanted a strong executive, we rid them because there were too many different forms of state government that couldn’t mesh with the countries finances at the time.Different states had different currency, different laws, etc which didn’t work for the country overall. So the U.S. Constitution was created and formed a centralized Government where three equal branches were created, the Judicial, the Legislative, and the Executive. Each branch had effective veto power over the other and EACH was important. You wanted a progressive president, you needed a progressive congress. You want a progressive Supreme Court, you get a progressive senate and president.

    • BoomerGal

      Nor are the articles of confederation totally scrapped. An example of that is the fact that two states already had a form of single payer health insurance long before POTUS brought it up.

    • eclecticbrotha

      LOL the purpose of the US Constitution is written in the preamble. Apparently, Webb didn’t understand that “in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice and ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare…” etc etc yadda yadda sisboombadda and so on and so on.

      Not that I have any room to brag. Everything I know about the constitution I learned from “Schoolhouse Rock”

    • Rhoda

      Plus, Congress comes first in the Constitution. The legislative body is the most powerful and the House of Representatives has the power of the purse; that’s why they have to go before voters every two years since they control the money.

      The Executive branch executes CONGRESS’ vision and was meant to be weak; it’s only because of the rise of political parties that we have a semi-parliamentary function where the party that holds the White House stands together across the branches of government. That wasn’t what the founders intended and as they watched political factions emerge there was a great debate over the wisdom of political parties.

      I’m not a historian; but damn. Just catch John Adams on HBO and that much will become clear to you!

  • nellcote

    Thanks for the explanation. I wasn’t stressing since you’ve been back but it’s good to know what happened. I only found WSY a few months ago and it surprised me how quickly I became addicted to reading it with my morning coffee. I think the whole starting the day off with something postive is a good thing :)

    I’ve been wondering what happened to JJP. I used to read them a couple of years ago because they had some good discussions in the comments but the trolls got to be too much. Lately I’ve looked in now and again and there doesn’t seem to be much going on.

    Anyway, I’m soooo glad you’re back and wish you all success for the future.

    ps. I’m uncomfortable with that The Truth About Kos blog you have on the blogroll. It seems way over the top hysterical bordering on paranoid.

  • gobrooklyn

    Well after hearing that story I don’t even know if I want the old site back. Webb is very petty and shrill in the true sense of the word. You can see from his comments about Obama’s team that he shares the same sense of entitlement that Cornel & Co. have when it comes to Obama.

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      Yep, because if you noticed, he only had a problem with white male members of PBO’s team. Meanwhile, he never criticized Valerie Jarrett who’s closer to PBO than Axelrod and Plouffe.

  • Aquagranny911

    I appreciate this explanation. I did read his posts and found them upsetting. I’m just so happy to see you have made a new home where this total “Obot” is welcome to comment. I have one question: Will you resume the weekly health diaries? I really enjoyed them and found them so informative and sometimes funny. I know they probably took a lot of time and research but if we want to stand strong for PBO and Dems we got to stay healthy.

    I so missed you all and was worried when WSY shut down so abruptly. I was afraid you all had been hacked after the troll raids the week before. I like it here and I am glad you have made me so welcome.

    • Miranda

      Yep, the Weekly Health Thread will go on.

      • nellcote

        I’d like to suggest Hep C, since it’s so pervasive, as a topic.

        • Aquagranny911

          Good thought. I have two friends who went through the interferon and other drug therapy for this about 10 years ago. They both pulled through but the treatment nearly killed them. One got Hep C from a bad blood transfusion, the other worked in a hospital and was not sure how she might have got it.

          This subject is well worth a health diary. Thanks for bringing this up.

      • Farrod

        Miranda, yodo you do, ‘House in the Park’?

  • http://www.facebook.com/erica.branchbutler Erica Raven Branch-Butler

    Actually I was worried that y’all had been hacked. Close, but not quite–I so glad to have you back, in an even better, bolder new incarnation. Cheers!

  • dannie22

    Wow!!! I had no idea. Im glad you guys hav e stuck together and kept this blog going. But putting on mu nurse cap for a second, I wonder does Webb maybe need some help!?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UJHSC7EYJGHB2W3RBOMDL4KE6Q Firedup Inca

    Where were the job conferences and poverty buses, during the Bush years as they were ending with job losses of 750,000 per month? Where was the hair-on-fire urgency from Democratic elected officials as the crisis was being created? Where was the urgency in the House, prior to the midterms, to pass a budget and deal with the looming debt ceiling crisis, while Democrats held majorities?

    These people bay to the moon about leadership but where has congressional leadership been for the last decade, let alone the last 2 years?

    The stimulus should have been bigger? Then why didn’t you convince your fellow colleagues with Democratic majorities to make it happen. That is on you formerly Democratic-dominated congress.

    The public option that you proposed would have only covered 6 million people and was not an option for anyone that got their insurance through an employer. Why? What the hell is the matter with you? Why would a “robust” public option be so weak, when you have majorities?

    We the people give you the most globally inspirational movement in decades, then all of that enthusiasm gets undermined in your weak sauce proposals, your failure to persuade you colleagues to pass better legislation and your waiting-for-Obama-to-lead-me dodges.

    Congress you had 58.2 million years to think about healthcare reform, comprehensive immigration reform, about how to close Gitmo, and every other social problem facing our country yet when it comes time for you to put up or shut up, every single time, you come up with some weak-ass, mealy mouthed mess about we’re waiting for the President to lead us.

    Don’t you have white papers that have been collecting dust for decades that have thought through our most pressing national problems? If you don’t, then why don’t you?

    You’re going to tell me that you no plans of your own, to get through congress — your colleagues? Your only plan is waiting on Obama?

    So what are you going to do when he is gone? Wait on the next unprecedented groundswell of American voter engagement so that you can undermine it with your tired game of sandbagging a Democratic President when he’s in office and then saying your hands are tied when a Republican is in office?

    When this President can act on his own, he does. He’s doing a de facto Dream Act now because this congress, including Rep. “This-is-the-President-Obama-I’ve-Been-Waiting-For” Guittierez, haven’t gotten it done.

    He and the Department of Justice have made more moves to effectively end the Defense of Marriage Act than this Congress has.

    He can move in those areas. But he can’t force the private sector to hire. He can’t make them stop their capital strike, if they don’t want to end it. They have $1 trillion in their coffers and they can keep not hiring until they get everything they want.

    All the job fairs and bus tours in the world are no match against a capital strike. Surely, the WeSeeYou founder and members of congress must know this.

    This is how corporations riot until they get what they want. So why the WeSeeYou founder and the CBC pretending that this President, who is adding 150,000 jobs a month on his watch, is not doing enough?

  • isonprize

    IN HONOR OF THE NEW HOME of “PRAGMATIC OBOTS UNITE!”

    I will repost a comment I made on the old WSY. I was honored to have received a “Post of the Week” I guess this makes me an ‘Obot’

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Even more to the point, nobody said shit about how much it cost when Laura Bush and her two daughters traveled to Africa.

    Nothing, Nada, NOT A DAMN THING. …..crickets……. ……tumbleweeds….

    So, now hear this:

    To ALL Teabaggers, Firefarters, AND Travesty & Corny,

    Barack Hussein Obama is the President of the United States of America. He gets shit that you don’t get — shit that you will never get. He’s smarter than you, better looking than you, and nicer than you. He and his family are supposed to get secret service protection that your tax dollars pay for.

    He lives in a beautifully maintained house that your tax dollars pay for. He also works harder, both mentally and physically, than you ever have.

    He has done, is doing, and will do more for this country than you have ever considered. And on top of all of that, people like him. Fundamentally, he’s a nice guy who also happens to be the Commander-in-Chief of the US Military forces who gave the orders to kill pirates and Osama bin Laden.

    Deal with it. Seriously. Because it’s all true. For real.

    • http://www.democratsforprogress.com/ Cha Eva

      “Barack Hussein Obama is the President of the United States of America. He gets shit that you don’t get — shit that you will never get. He’s smarter than you, better looking than you, and nicer than you. He and his family are supposed to get secret service protection that your tax dollars pay for.

      He lives in a beautifully maintained house that your tax dollars pay for. He also works harder, both mentally and physically, than you ever have.

      He has done, is doing, and will do more for this country than you have ever considered. And on top of all of that, people like him. Fundamentally, he’s a nice guy who also happens to be the Commander-in-Chief of the US Military forces who gave the orders to kill pirates and Osama bin Laden.

      Deal with it. Seriously. Because it’s all true. For real”

      Ain’t that the Truth and bears repeating! Thanks, isonprize!

  • Freder421

    I think that Webb earned a good cursing out. Batman may I do the honors?

    • GN

      Needs prayer, I genuinely hope that guy’s okay…in any event, independence is a good thing in this circumstance I think.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY GN. – - -***BIG HUG*** :>)

        CO-SIGN! –SADLY –his apostasy [so 2 speak] had become evident.

        The formation of POU was a necessary – -OUTCOME. :>)

        Good 2 C U. :>) B Blessed. :>)

  • nepat

    Disappointing that Webb had to take the whole thing down with him. There’s not exactly a shortage of sites where he could comfortably exercise his Obama frustrations. Not sure why he felt changing the WSY MO mid-stream was the way to go.

    Great to see this site spring up in its place. Congrats to the team who pulled it together.

    • GN

      I have never seen anything like it before, truly foul…I hope that the wsy trustees maintain independence even if there’s some sort of reconciliation going forward. Can you imagine this happening in October 2012? And I’ll just say it: we have all heard tales of the GOP’s attempts to spread propaganda uniquely suited to the left with soft narratives about POTUS as a disappointment, the merits of authoritarian styled leadership (“why won’t he fight and make them do it”), and the reasonableness of responding by imagining that there’s no difference between the parties. I urge people to be on guard and stick to facts and policy, and eschew criticisms with no specifics and no real merit, such as “he needs to LEAD” etc. etc. It’s truly not about President Obama the person at this point; it’s about the disrespect which people feel free to throw, and it’s about whether this country is going to go in a nihilist direction (webb’s new wsy) or a constructive one (this emerging new platform looking to rebuild and keep working towards progress).

      • nathkatun7

        Thanks GN! for going to the heart of the matter, as always! We really have to wake up to the vicious games being played on us. We know the forces that have made it clear that they want President Obama to be a one term President. They are throwing the entire kitchen sink, including using the tactics of divide and conquer, to accomplish their goal. I am really proud of the people who see through the games being played on us to promote division and hatred of the President.

  • morphus

    Glad you are back. And, may I add, “Build a panic room.” The withdrawal was terrible.

    • Aquagranny911

      LOL! Sorry I had to laugh but I would have so been in that “panic room” myself!

      • nellcote

        Probably would have been crowded in there :)

        • ladyg68

          I know that’s right, LOL!!!!

        • Aquagranny911

          But I bet GLH would have snacks and someone might even have an adult beverage or two, lol.

          • GreenLadyHere

            LOL – -Aquagranny911. ANY SACRIFICE 4 my – -POU FAM! :>)

            —-2 funny! :>) ***shakin’ my head*** :>)

  • Joseph Markowitz

    This story is just another sad example of how people on the left spend all their energy fighting among themselves. Why do we do it? It also make me glad that I have nobody else to argue with about my little Obama fan site. I made it a rule when I started my site that I would stay supportive, try to stay positive and never criticize the president. And I keep doing it because it becomes more and more obvious every day that the guy needs support, and he gets plenty of criticism elsewhere. He doesn’t need me to add to it.

    These are also pretty easy rules for me to follow because I am an attorney, so I just treat the president as if he were my client.

    Good luck to you with your new site, and keep up the good work!

    http://www.hopeandchange.net

  • ladyg68

    Thanks so very much for the explanation. I had suspected something along those lines. As some of you may have noticed, I try to refrain from personal attacks and debates that devolve into nonsensical go nowhere arguments. Many times I thought of responding to Webb but thought better of it because my bible tells me ‘if you argue with a fool, you become a fool-paraphrased-(Proverbs 4:26). Therefore, I kept my mouth shut. God has HIS way of working things out for the good, doesn’t HE?

    • BoomerGal

      LOL!! Thanks ladyg! I’ve been trying to think of that book, chapter and verse!! I wrote it down. Thanks again.

  • MonieTalks

    I’m proud that you all have kept going forward. Keep rising to the top.

    I echoed this before, but since JJP to now, many of you have become a cyber-family for me. Sharing the excitement of the 2008 campaign, to the election and now. You guys are always knowledgeable, snarky, and comedic.

    I even spent many days and nights on here as a distraction when my hubby was deployed in Afghanistan.When they would have “blackouts” and I wouldn’t be able to communicate with him, it helped to get me past my anxiety,

    So if I never let y’all know before, you guys are truly great people. I have your back and will follow you wherever you go (in a non-stalker way, of course..lol)

    • Aquagranny911

      Thanks to your Hubby but also to you for your service. “They also serve who only stand and wait…” Blessings on you and your family.

      • MonieTalks

        Thanks Aquagranny!

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      Thanks for your support and for your hubby’s service, Monie. :-)

    • GreenLadyHere

      HEEY MonieTalks. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

      — -THANK U 4 all your posts!! :>) 3 WORDS 2 describe them: – — A-MA-ZING!! :>)

      I would like 2 PROPERLY THANK the HUBBY with the correct SONG. :>) May I know his BRANCH of SERVICE.? [Iff not intrusive. :>)]

      – — -A FOND MEMORY: – - -US President Barack Obama marked Independence Day by honoring combat heroes

      — HUBBY annnd U/FAM —were HONORED by –MR/ PRESIDENT/FIRST LADY! :>)

      B BEYOND – -BLESSED. :>)

  • GN

    I have to say that I’m impressed with the speed with which the wsy trustees were able to recover and keep it moving. That, to me, is the best response to what has taken place. I think that this new site is a better alternative to a space in which one person may feel that they have a dictatorial authority over how other people may and may not view the WH and the parade of dunces and charlatans who continuously lie on the first black POTUS. If that’s no longer a tolerable viewpoint at webb’s space, that’s his choice, and I’m thrilled to see an alternative spring up.

    I saw that drama with the site pull go down in real time, and was actually writing a response to the ongoing Maxine Waters debate when the site was taken down, a response which noted that no one took any offense to Waters participating in a jobs fair, the issue is that as a legislator she has failed to deliver employment legislation and thus cannot try to hide behind POTUS when having to face her constituents and the country.

    Please let us know what we can do to better support this effort. Just glancing through these past few days, it seems as if many of the people I love to read have already congregated here. That’s quite the accomplishment and please let us know how we can help to keep it going.

  • dannie22
  • http://twitter.com/allanbrauer allanbrauer

    Thanks for letting us in on what transpired. Enjoy your new home.

  • http://twitter.com/Norbrookc Norbrook

    Thanks for letting us know, and my blog roll has been updated accordingly. I wish you all the best in this new place.

  • http://twitter.com/problemwiththat problemwiththat

    Keep moving on. It sounds like you all respected this dude Webb a lot, so I know this must be disappointing as hell. President Obama inspires me to put personality aside and focus on the mission – change. If he can stand up to the personal, baseless and irrational attacks that he does, our jobs are easy.

    Keep fighting the good fight, cause you all have a reader in me.

  • Aquagranny911

    Okay you all, Rev Al is now on for me and I am off to see what he has to say.

  • zizi2

    So what happens with those of us who were guest bloggers? Is Webb the same as Barry Miles? How could Webb shut down the site without informing guest bloggers like me, so I could save the articles I published there and the feedback, since February? This stinks. I guess as I predicted in 2009, The wingnuts have succeeded in splintering us and trying to runs us out of the public square. We will have no-one to blame but ourselves if we let the unthinkable happen.

    • isonprize

      ZiZi. Did you publish them thru Disqus? Maybe they available thru your disqus account? I don’t know, just trying to help…

      • eclecticbrotha

        I’m gonna take a look to see if mine are.

        • isonprize

          scroll up. I posted a “finding old web pages” link.. Hope it helps.

    • crazycanuck

      Exactly zizi, this is people’s work. He had no right to do that, I don’t care how ‘mistreated’ he felt. Horrible thing to do.

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      Yep, Webb = Barry Miles.

      As far as your posts, the only thing I can suggest is you search on Google for cached versions of your posts.

      • ladyg68

        Wow; didn’t know Barry Miles and Webb were/are one and the same. Hmmmm!!!!

      • crazycanuck

        interesting, didn’t realize that.

      • eclecticbrotha

        Damn. If Webb and Barry are the same person, then dude might have a split personality or something because his emails never even hinted at the type of personality I saw from Webb on the site. The only real clue I had to suspect they might be one person is rarely seeing Webb post under the Barry Miles name.

    • Town

      I don’t believe the wingnuts have succeeded in anything.

      WSY will go down the toilet just like JJP. Look how quickly POU regrouped and everyone’s migrated over here.

      Meanwhile WSY will go live again and average about 30 hits a day, just like JJP.

      • Guest

        Wait, JJP has gone downhill? I don’t visit any longer but I thought it was one of the “left” blogsites that got the most traffic along with FDL, DailyKos and HP.

        • http://www.democratsforprogress.com/ Cha Eva

          JJP has some good stuff, imv.

          • Town

            They do have some good stuff and some good people over there but the same thing that went down over on WSY went down on JJP. You can’t build a community based on one thing, then all of a sudden switch lanes. People notice things and will call them out. He got called out and for retaliation decided to shut the site down.

          • TyrenM

            Thanks for help with this. Summer ’08 when I found JJP, you and others got into it. Some nicely, some not so. Then all a sudden this year, it’s like a ghosttown. I read it but it seems like a few people talking to themselves.
            The last good discussion was the President supporting gay marriage and people deciding for THAT reason to no longer support. Other than that…sad. Lesson, I need to get out more (around the blogosphere.)

        • Town

          Well, before the WSY split, they would be getting 100+ comments per thread and they would have multiple threads.

          After the split, they’re lucky to get 100 comments per day.

    • trose1

      I have always wondered about that issue.

    • isonprize

      Finding Old Web Pages

      Hope this helps…

    • Alexander2

      Hi zizi2:

      I think most of your guest blog posts were also cross-posted at JJP with your permission. You can simply email the moderators at JJP to recover those posts and the comments to those posts.

      How could Webb shut the site down w/o informing guest bloggers like you? I have no answer.

      How could Webb shut the site down and, thereby, violate the trust of hundreds if not thousands of regular readers? That, frankly, is the issue that we’ve been trying to rectify and correct. That is why we have this new blog.

      I’m more concerned about preserving the community than focusing on what I personally lost. I hope you feel the same.

      • GreenLadyHere

        ALEXANDER2 —-THIS: – - -I’m more concerned about preserving the community than focusing on what I personally lost. I hope you feel the same.

        MY THOUGHTS – - precisely! :>) I hope that my statement reflected this. :>)

        – –MOVIN’ –4-WARD! :>) —- – - – –[With APPRECIATION 4 the POST. IT was necessary. :>)]

  • crazycanuck

    Thanks for letting us know. I’m not at all surprised. I saw it coming, and long before the Waters thread. It’s sad things had to end the way it did. Keep strong. You all are doing good work.

  • Smartypants32

    Congratulations on sticking together through that and getting this place up and going.

    I’m sure we all have our varying opinions on style, but I actually find this site’s design and layout much more appealing. I like the softer tones and lack of clutter.

    But I’ll continue to read here no matter what. You guys to GREAT work!!!

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ carolinagirl

      Thanks smartypants. None of us are web designers and trying to get this place up and running in less than a week wasn’t easy. Hell, we’re still trying to get it together. The most important thing was to get a site up to let all the WSY fam know where we were and explain what happened and why.

      We really do appreciate you and everyone’s support.

      • Aquagranny911

        You all are truly miracle workers and I do appreciate what you have done for all of us here.

  • aleth

    I suspected as much after seeing the message on the Maintaneace page saying go to the people’s view… In light of his comment about THE PEOPLE’S VIEW… I knew something was up.

    Like y’ll know I have had my bumbs with Webb even before the latest one’s because I just thought he was not up to par as Alex, Miranda,Sepia, Pbomb and CG. And Webb knew it.. My opinion

    I admire the quality you guys have shown, it is the spirit that builds movement. That is, dust yourself and keep moving. Its not about you, its about something greater and I know all of you are professionals, doers in your community and knowledgeable.

    More power to you and just make sure you get your postings from there period. You can archive it here, it is your work and there was nothing in the site that indicated the writtings belonged to Webb.

    What a small minded person, its funny that the people who always preaching that others are sheep are the same one’s acting childish and can’t leave with a little disagreement.. oh well

    March Onward Obots

    Muah

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GIQMY4KEE2UAH3X3DCFYGB5UXY Desraye

      Yea, Deanaic83 at People’s View hurt some of the PL fees fees with his post. I guess Webb is part of the PL. They really hate when they are told the truth.

      • http://www.democratsforprogress.com/ Cha Eva

        yeah, gotta love good ol’ Deaniac and his inimitable way to cut right through the whiners’ bullshit with facts. They can’t handle it.

    • eclecticbrotha

      Good to read the sweet musings of my dear alethbagger.

    • PBomb

      How you could you possibly leave me out? I haz a sad. :)

      In all seriousness, he became disrespectful towards everyone. Just look at the comment above that shows the latest tweet he posted.

      He apparently just doesn’t get it. It makes him look very childish.

      • aleth

        Oh my gosh PBOMB I am so sorry I love you though.. not in the Tarvis way … I really love you in the love love authentic love way

        • PBomb

          LOL!! Don’t fret, I love you too in an authentic love way!

          HAHAHA!

          In all seriousness, we honestly do appreciate the support!

  • trose1

    Thanks for this update. I am sad to see WSY go away. In my mind WSY was ruffling feathers, BIG TIME. I will keep my conspiracy theories to myself.
    I will support this blog as much as I did WSY on twitter.

    • Kennymack1971

      Agree with this. The PL is shook as they begin to realize that we are not going to take their garbage attempts to undermine this President lying down. This blog is needed and I am glad to see it back and better than ever.

      • trose1

        Al Sharpton on cable tv giving his opinion, an African American website that doesn’t subscribe to PL taking points, uh nope can’t have it

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY Kennymack1971. ***BIG HUG** :>)

        – - YA MEAN – –LIKE THIS!? –LOL.

        Good 2 C U. :>) Have a good evenin’. :>)

    • crazycanuck

      hmmm I think our thoughts are heading in the same direction.

      • trose1

        Remember the post that Andrew Sullivan linked. People were posting on that thread forever. It showed the intelligence of the WSY community. Nothing makes some people upset more than uppity intelligent negroes.

        • eclecticbrotha

          That blog entry that Sullivan linked to had the potential to put WSY on the map farreals. Its highly peculiar that Webb would blow the whole thing up right when his brainchild was about to achieve widespread notoriety. Highly peculiar indeed.

          • isonprize

            As my sweet mama used to say “what’s done in the dark, always comes to light…”

  • lamh35

    Hey all, thanks for the background, I’d noticed the “changed tone” of your former trustees as well, but I just ignored it and focused on all the lovely, funny, smart and engaging people who comment and post here. I’m glad to have ya’ll back, and just excuse me if I refer to ya’ll as WSY from time to time. It’ll be like a nickname now…lol.

    • http://www.democratsforprogress.com/ Cha Eva

      WSY2 :)

      • AxelFoley

        WSY2: Electric Boogaloo

        • isonprize

          See? This is the shit I missed!!

          Electric Boogaloo! Foley, you stooopid!! LOLOL

  • Guns3000

    Damn shame people can’t even have a difference of opinion without doing something show their “power.”

  • http://www.minnahong.com asiangrrlMN

    Thanks for the explanation, PBomb. It’s so sad that the old site had to go down like that, but it’s amazing that you and the other trustees were able to regroup so quickly and get this wonderful site going strong. Unfettered and free, indeed.

  • Elie

    Thank you for sharing. Some of us already had some idea as this played out in real time. It was pretty obvious even for those of us who only just found the site a few months ago.

    Webb’s posts were frankly increasingly irritating, petty, obnoxious, desperate and childish.
    There was an in your face attempt to bully anyone who contradicted his all-knowing, spiteful comments. He only strived to control and manipulate and his contrarian spiel was so lame, tedious and transparently reaching and desperate.

    He failed to understand that many of us who sought out that blog did so because it was one of the few places left where we could continue to express and harness unconditional support for this brilliant and spectacular President without the need to put in disclaimers and the occasional gratuituous demeaning insult and dig.

    If we wanted to indulge in what he was spewing, sites to read crap like that are a dime a dozen!!!

    I personally had had enough of that person and at first chose to ignore him, but on the last day before he shut the site down, I posted very direct responses to his crap and I strongly suspect that in addition to responses from you trustees and Sepia (who he kept trying to bait), posts from this complete stranger new to the site, might have further injured his already bruised massive ego.

    I am relieved that you have this new place where you are united in the goal of not only supporting and re-electing President Obama, but calling out and pushing back on the disrespect, obstructionists and undermining agents alike from wherever they rear their ugly heads.

    Now that I have found all my favorite posters and bloggers all congregated again here at POU, I’m good. I will now spend time re-directing all my die-hard Obot family and friends here. No worries.

    It is not the name but the people who make any blog what it is and I am happy and relieved that you are free of the control freak and the unnecessary behind the scenes drama that spilled out.

    Please stay supportive of this once in a generation President. I know without a doubt that I will. I also know that you guys and those of us who have followed you here are without any question, on the right side of history.

    Yes we can and must again!!!

    Thank you for sticking with it and creating an even better place for us Obots to congregate!!!

    • http://www.democratsforprogress.com/ Cha Eva

      Brava, Elie! Nice rant! And, thank you for responding directly to him. I missed most that or I would have too. I had just recently started coming to WEESeeYou and think I might have caught something by Webb and got turned off. But, I saw this evolution of it on TheObamaDiary and it really helps to know the whole story.

      I’m part of a group that left DU and started a new site(Democrats For Progress) because of our unified support for President Obama and, of course, got over tired of the endless disingenous whining(“oh look what greenham has to say about this!)”. IOW, they were drowning in haterade and probably still are.

      http://www.democratsforprogress.com/

      • Miranda

        We’ll add that to the blogroll!

        • http://www.democratsforprogress.com/ Cha Eva

          Thank you, Miranda! I’ll request for the Admins over at DFP to replace WeeSeeYou with Pragmatic Obots Unite. :)

          Get us up to speed.

    • GN

      I think that you, I, town, and maybe a few others were all there at the time. I actually thought that the site pull was just a bout of petulance and that by the time I got back from work (I was in a different time zone at the time), all would be resolved. I underestimated the immaturity at play, as well as what must have been a resentfulness about not being the intellectual king of the hill on that site, so to speak.

      Here’s my last reply to webb in that debate, which was about Maxine Waters “unleashed” remarks and why they are indefensible (disqus is a good backup for people looking for their wsy1 comments and likes):

      ***********
      Oh come on.

      1. No one took offense to Rep. Water’s participation in the jobs fairs.

      2. Please tell me how we’re supposed to simply ignore the reality of the GOP in charge of the House of Representatives? The country put them there, it is indeed a bitter pill to swallow, but there is no choice but to work with them. To claim otherwise is just setting up an impossible standard.

      3. People took offense to Rep. Water’s choice to ask to be “unleashed” on POTUS. That was an awful statement, and no dramatic interpretations of what terrible people we are can make that statement in any way justifiable. The howls which would emerge from the same people clapping for Rep. Waters now, if POTUS were to ask black people’s permission to be “unleashed” on the CBC…it was an awful statement, divisive and stupid. And in light of that statement, it was pretty ridiculous of anyone to suggest that President Obama needs to seek Rep. Waters’ counsel on an increased basis. He prefers Valerie Jarrett.

      4. If you truly think that President Obama is flailing and needs direction, why not offer a positive vision for how you believe that he should do his job. From where I’m sitting, he’s doing some big things in really challenging circumstances and not getting credit for that because people lie about him constantly and totally downplay the good he’s done, even well-meaning people sucked into the media vortex of endless spin which has resulted in people enabling the GOP against their own best interests. To play into that dynamic and repeat its talking points just doesn’t make any sense.

      You don’t have to co-sign anything but when you make statements like your commentary of late, expect a great deal of pushback, not because you’re disagreeing with the POTUS, but because many of those statements are wrong on the facts. It is what it is.

      • Town

        It was starting to get highly personal with him. I don’t have anything to prove by fighting over the internet so I took a nap, and when I woke up to see what was going on WSY was down with the “be back in a month” notice.

  • eclecticbrotha

    Wow. Thank you, PBomb, for letting us know what was going on behind the scenes.

    (Been editing this like a muhfugga on the fly because its hard to proofread your posts in this tight ass edit window that pops up. Apologies.)

    I can’t say exactly when it was, but some interaction I had with Webb on the site a few months back made me start to pull back and observe more than post because I began to sense something just wasn’t right. I think it was around the time he posted in response to the clash between Rev Al Sharpton and Dr Cornel West on MSNBC’s “Black Agenda” farce hosted by Ed Schultz, where I questioned his contextual use of the “blessed are the peacemakers” Bible verse. At first I thought it was just our egos clashing – and Lord knows I’ve had my days where I’ve probably responded a lil too aggressively to something someone else has posted – but then I started to notice a pattern of generally dismissive comments from Webb about anything others posted to the blog.

    Later, I finally surrendered to the lure of Twitter and that experience took me away from WSY for days at a time. Each time I poked my head in it was even easier to notice the subtle shift and open hostility beginning to brew in comment threads. Ironically, while all this was going on certain events like trose1′s clash/dustup with “established” blogger Joan Walsh in Twitter was actually attracting more people to the site and getting the attention of a broader share of the blogosphere, leading to the recent troll assaults that dominated the site in its final few weeks. You know you’ve truly arrived when the GG and FDL trolls decide you’re a threat and start carpet-bombing your comment threads with their bullshit in order to drown out any attempt to present an opposing viewpoint to theirs.

    What truly convinced me that Webb was off on some power-trippin’ bullshit was that ugly “no one does half as much around here as I do” rant he launched at other board members who were posting comments in the same thread a few days before WSY shut down.

    Then, boom, it was gone. Anybody who’s been on the net longer than 2 days knows those “under construction” signs denoting a site’s temporary inactivity went out with MC Hammer pants, and stating an entire month of inactivity was a dead giveaway that something was wrong.

    I once heard an older preacher comment about how God knows how to multiply through division: like human cells, churches often end up splitting to form two, 3, even 4 or 5 new, equally healthy entities capable of broadening the reach overall. I’ve seen this same type of dynamic happening in the Obamacratic Nation. In the the past year alone, dozens of very capable but frustrated bloggers have stepped away from the 24 hour beatdown they experienced for daring show solidarity with the president at “established” sites to launch blogs of their own and found that there is a growing community of much-maligned “Obamabots” searching for someone who’s bold enough to stand in firm support of President Obama. My hope is that WSY returns as a vehicle to support the president and speak truth to those who oppose him, but recent history makes me suspect that won’t be the case.

    Nevertheless, *the rapid recovery and birth of this new site is more proof Obamacrats are showing themselves to be like Bebe’s Kids: we don’t die, we multiply.

    • Soccermom91

      i remember that exchange! i was confused as well. then there was this one point were he was just downright disrespectful to miranda (i think). i was very confused, and then poof, we got an ‘under maintenance’ sign. oh, well, his loss!! (i bet he’s somewhere lurking….) WEE are keeping up the good fight as POU!!!

  • sagittarius

    Well… I think this verse is fitting:

    You got to know when to hold ‘em
    Know when to fold ‘em
    Know when to walk away
    Know when to run
    You never count your money
    While sitting at the table
    There’ll be time enough for counting
    When the dealing’s done.

    Kenny Rogers
    The Gambler

    POU Trustees: Glad you knew. Thanks.

    • Aquagranny911

      LOOOOVE IT! I have always said this very same thing about PBO.

    • GreenLadyHere

      HEEY sagittrius. ***BIG HUG** :>)

      Good annd TRUE WORDS!! – —SAD that they had 2 B USED 4 this FAM. BUT —FAMS have their –SITUATIONS. :>)

      Good 2 C U. -sagittarius. B Blessed. :>)

  • Guest

    Wow, that sounds like a lot of unfortunate drama. I am glad the rest of you guys were able to come together and put together this amazing site. I look forward to visiting often.

  • http://twitter.com/bardgal Tally Briggs

    I’m so glad you’re here!

  • lochelle

    Growth often comes from from adversity and challenges. The establishment of this site reflects that growth and it will continue to flourish.

  • angee

    Well dayum. Didn’t know all that was going on.

    • RinaX

      That’s what I’m saying. Oh well, y’all brushed off your shoulders and kept it pushing, that’s all you can do.

  • GreenLadyHere

    Dear PBomb[Miranda, Alexander2, Sepia and Carolinagirl]: ***BIG HUGS*** – -

    THANK U VERY MUCH 4 your BRAVE HUMILITY in presenting this EVOLUTION. :>)

    I APPLAUD all of U 4 your PROFESSIONALISM in HOLDING the WSY site 2-gether –in spite of the INTERNAL STRUGGLES that were going on. It is a TESTAMENT 2 your FINE CHARACTER. :>)

    YOUR[our :>), IFF I MAY] MISSION is CLEAR: —No matter what happened, a major part of our mission was always being pragmatic and unapologetic supporters of America’s first African-American president. This is a badge of honor we carry with pride. :>)

    It is through this mission that I have GROWN annd have LEARNED sooo MUCH about the POLITICAL PROCESS [annnd many other topics - -including - -come complex "computer operations" --like --HTML! LOL]

    Additionally —a MISSION STATEMENT is the way 2 — -KEEP OUR — -FOCUS! :>)

    THE SUPPORT aannndd RE-ELECTION of PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA - – Woo! Hoo! :>)

    Sure, I noticed the INCREASING “CONTRARIAN” STATEMENTS of Webb. Annnd I noted them 2 B a shift away from the MISSION — a LOSS of FOCUS — IFF U will. [Annd I prayed annd will continue 2 PRAY 4 him.]

    Can we disagree? – - -U BETCHA! There is a RESPECTFUL WAY 2 do so annd THIS has been DEMONSTRATED by our FAM. – — BEAUTIFULLY!! :>)

    LADY DIANA ROSS – - asked a POIGNANT QUESTION – -LOOONG AGO: – –

    – — – -DO U KNOW WHERE YOU’RE GOING 2? :>) – —

    – - -YES! [W.E.E. do]*** –The POU FAM. —DOES!! :>) – - ***tears*** –

    Annnd – - — The POU FAM — –WILL – -SURVIVE annd THRIVE!! :>). – — TA-RUST!! :>) – –

    —In the WORDS of “TINY TIM” – — -Bless Us One And All :>) [Please listen 2 ALL the WORDS. :>)] —**tears*** :>)

    IMMA STOP –4 a minute –annnd ENJOY the — FESTIVITIES of POSTING! :>) Wheeeee! :>)

    ***[4-GIVE. It just fit. :>) NO intent 2 insult. :>)]

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BYBGVW7OCU2CLIDPGPPYKPU5ZA ginny

    “Pragmatic Obots Unite.” I love that! Okay, here I am.

    • crazycanuck

      Yup we are Obamacratic Nation STRONG

      an will stay strong. Thanks EB for that.

  • sjterrid

    Good luck with the new site. Im glad you decided to leave and create this new site. I’m proud to be an obot, and I will continue to only read the sites that continue to show how hard this President is working for all of us. It is so frustrating listening to everybody tell the President what he should do. I voted for Obama because I believed in his principles, and I haven’t been disappointed. In fact, I can’t believe he has accomplished as much as he has with so much obstruction he is faced with by both parties.

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM. – - – — Annnd another thang – —There’s an IDIOM —–about -CREAM. :>) -

  • pamelabrown53

    So glad you all are baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack! I thought you were hacked but couldn’t figure out why it would take a month to get back on-line.

    Anyway, the WEE fam seems intact and I’m delighted because you all are an important part of my mental health.

    Love,

    pamelabrown

    • AxelFoley

      Hacking was the first thing that popped in my head. No site goes down for routine maintenance for a month. Just about the only thing that will make a site go down for a month is hacking.

      Good to know what the real story is, though.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/JamilaJP QOakaJP

    Thanks for the explanation. I saw some of the tension unfold w/Webb, but I didn’t know how deep it was. I have to admit I was a little wary of the the hush-hush nature of the website (and twitter) changes. But I see why you all wanted to make a clean break and re-assert a clear mission statement.

  • LunarSea

    When a door closes, a window opens somewhere

  • Almablanca

    Add Bill Maher to people who lack sense. Support for someone who works hard should be without condition..questions yes, conditions NO

  • BarbinAtlSouth

    Thanks for the explanation. Like others, I suspected it was something like that. I have a large family and one of my six brothers acts very much like Webb – never satisfied. Unfortunately, that describes Democrats in general. A more disorganized, grumbling bunch you’ll never find. But I’m going to keep it moving as do all pragmatic Obots. I appreciate the new site and will return to my regular routine of making this my first online visit each day.

  • AxelFoley

    So, if I’m understanding correctly, Webb created WSY, then turned to the Dark Side like his name was Anakin Skywalker and embraced Firebagology, and then possibly sabotaged his own site?

    • http://www.minnahong.com asiangrrlMN

      You have such a way with the vivid imagery, AxelF!

    • eclecticbrotha

      Damn, you definitely brought an axe to our intellectual thicket (to borrow a quote from the legendary wordsmith Captain Jack Sparrow)

  • nathkatun7

    To: PBomb, Miranda, Alexander2, Sepia, and Carolina girl:

    I thank you for your courage in sticking together to create this new site. I was introduced to WSY through some of the great posts by ZIZI that were linked to BWD’s site. Once I visited the site and read many of the magnificent posts as well as the commentaries I was hooked. I visited WSY religiously because I enjoyed reading the posts and comments by such gifted writers as GN. Now and then I felt the need to drop a comment. Obviously, since I was a newcomer on the site, I never realized that there were tensions. I naively thought the closure of the site was probably a result of some hacking.

    Now that I know this was all about internal struggles that stemmed from a person who did not want to continue supporting the President, I am determined to do all I can to support your new site. In the past, oppressors have used the tactics of divide and conquer to dominate us. I am delighted that the majority of the WSY Board refused to succumb to these tactics. Lets hope that, in this second decade of the 21st Century, we will no longer be fooled in going against the first African American President who is doing so much, against vicious opposition, to improve the lives of all Americans.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/JamilaJP QOakaJP

    Well, I did have a question about who is now running the original WSY twitter account (because there have been 2 updates since that particular account was declared “dead,” including one tonight, and since many of the tweets regarding the shut down have now been deleted), but after reading through the comments here and eye-ing the acronym POU, I guess I have my answer.

    Quote:

    @WEESeeYou W.E.E. See You…
    You cannot spell poutrage without P.O.U. LMBAO, ***poots***

    SMH

    ETA: Ironically, this week I began reading “Till You Hear From Me,” a novel by Pearl Ceage which, at least in the first chapters, deals with a family relationship strained by conflicting opinions on President Obama and socio-political issues in the AA community.

    • GN

      I just saw that as well, and find it curious that such fighting spirit is not willing to come and answer for himself, ducking emails and taking a shot from twitter instead. Hmm.

    • itgurl_29

      Thanks for the reminder that I need to unfollow WSY on twitter.

    • Rhoda

      Let’s see what he does when the site comes back online. I don’t think he’s going to find much support attacking POTUS.

    • MsKitty

      That tweet shows incredible immaturity. Count me as one less person who will be going to the “new” WSY.

  • Rhoda

    First of all, wow.

    Second of all, I’m glad to see you and find this post. I don’t go on twitter much but I’ve been checking your feed and was excited to see a link back here.

    Thanks for the information. When I searched for WSY twitter feed I got the old one; and the first comment was I guess from Webb. Bitter doesn’t begin to describe it. I’m sorry he took the hard work that contributed to make that such a great site and that you all lost it. But POU will be better for it.

    Thanks for your hard work and dedication.

  • http://www.ryanvouchercare.com Captain America

    Thanks for sticking it out and sticking a fork in you former associate. Keep up the great work, I will be back. but also keep in mind that there are those of us who strongly support the president yet we might disagree on strategy for pushing back. I know I do sometimes.

    I want to see so swagger with consequences for those that do not toe the party lie ( I am not a democrat but am a strong supporter of this president!)

    Lee Andrew aka SPQR1052

  • Joy Erasmus

    There is a real struggle to divide and conquer and it seems that Firebagger attitude has infiltrated the AA community as well. I might not support every policy of the president but I support him and what he is trying to achieve 100%. I came accross your site a while ago..and liked what I found…I will absolutely continue to support you and I thank you for being loyal supporters of our president..he has enough crap to deal with from Tp/GOP…AA american support is vital to the re-election of PBO..I shiver to think of the consequence of not voting or primaring the president….AA…THINK!!!

    • http://twitter.com/#!/JamilaJP QOakaJP

      “I might not support every policy of the president but I support him and what he is trying to achieve 100%.”

      THIS. No one is asking for sycophancy. It’s about providing a supportive and ACTIVE base so that the president is able to maneuver politically and implement progress over time. This nation and its political system is naturally imperfect, so why do we expect miracles from one man working within that system? That’s why people like Lupe Fiasco sound so stupid when they say they can’t vote/support a politician unless they agree 100%. What?! When in life does anyone EVER agree with anyone they know 100% of the time? (I many times don’t agree with my OWN decisions!) Its about the long term goals. There’s a way to critique/criticize certain steps without attempting to derail the whole plan. The media and Obama opponents are hoping that people take their eyes off the prize and wast time staring at their own navels.

  • Dorothy Rissman

    OMG! I had no idea of all you were going through. It must have been an emotional roller coaster. I am so happy that you are moving on and remain dedicated to your purpose.

    Thanks for all of your hard work.

  • Camille

    In spite of the sad and unpleasant circumstances that brought us this new, wonderful blog, hugs, kisses and deep gratitude are due all the POU trustees: PBomb, Miranda, Alexander2, Sepia and Carolinagirl.

    We thank you for your commitment, decency, strength of purpose, focus and hard work.

    We cannot thank you enough for putting this blog together so quickly and it is evident that much energy and time has been invested to make this possible. Thank you!

    In the end, you together with the whole gang of us who are fed and kept sane by this labour of love that you’ve created, will certainly have the last laugh.

    You are well rid of this Webb person; what a pathetic, bitter, small, petty so and so.

  • ch555x

    Damn, I wondered what actually happened over there (maintenance?!). Though I’m “a little late”, it’s good to see ya’ll again! (via ABL)

  • Joy

    *jumping up and down* OMG, I’m so happy to have finally found you guys! Thanks so much for continuing to give me a place to show my support for the President.

  • http://skepticalbrotha.wordpress.com skepticalbrotha

    Wow. I had no idea.

  • Sabreen60

    I am so glad you’re up and running. I know what I look for in a political web site and you’re it. I definitely have added you to my list of supporters of President Obama.

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    Ah Ha! Takes confidence & nerves of steel to hold steady against an onslaught of Obstruction, Media Baggery, Emos ‘n Trolls and that’s just Mondays….So pleased you’ve found a permanent home to call your own 24/7. Press On.

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