October 21, 2014

Monday Afternoon Thread: Baby Its Cold Outside

Great rendition by the fabulous Vanessa Williams and Bobby Caldwell.

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  • MonieTalks

    Tim Wise, y’all

    Race, Class, Violence and Denial: Mass Murder and the Pathologies of Privilege

    …..Still, after all these years, and all these sanguinary calamities, there remains the utter surprise that yes, evil can visit the “nice” places too. What’s that you say? Childhood death isn’t just for the brown and poor anymore? Not merely a special burden to be borne by the residents of South Chicago, West Philadelphia, or Central City New Orleans? There is dysfunction and pathology and general awfulness where some of the beautiful people too reside? Yes precious, yes indeed. This time would you please write it down; perhaps make it your Facebook status forever, so you won’t forget.

    I don’t mean to be callous, and indeed I have shed plenty of tears for the families in Newtown, as I do every time one of these massacres takes place, as I sadly know I will again. But Goddammit, it is the denial, the cocoon-like innocence of the bleary-eyed denizens of these communities that drives me to distraction. Precisely because I do care, and I know that that very innocence — which now for the umpteenth time we get to hear has been shattered — is more than just maddening, and far more than an academic point. It actually helps to make these kinds of gut-wrenching catastrophes more likely.

    ….Speaking of whom, can we really imagine a poor, urban, black or Latina mom successfully removing her disturbed child from the local public school so as to home school them, and then, in her spare time hauling him off to the shooting range to make sure he knew how to fire, among other things, an assault rifle? Once again, I am merely wondering aloud, but it seems something less than irrational to believe that maybe, just maybe, it was this family’s social position, their class status and yes, their race, which insulated them from the judgment and external control so regularly deployed against the poor and those of color who manifest drama in one of another guise.

    They were from good families.

    This is a nice, safe place.

    • rikyrah

      I’ll say it again…

      what kind of person,

      who KNOWS that someone in their house is MENTALLY ILL..

      KEEPS KILLING MACHINES IN THEIR HOUSE?

      • Camille

        An equally disturbed person.

        Something just doesn’t add up. You get the sense that everyone seems to be hiding stuff about the mother.

        • ranger11

          Why are they doing this? The mother, to me, seems to a large part of this story and is emblematic of what is going on in this country.

    • isonprize

      Wow, does Tim Wise read POU? ‘Cuz damn if this ain’t what I posted…

      • conlakappa

        Surely, with $250,000 at her disposal, she could have purchased the best help that kind of money can buy for her son?

        Or at least get his care added to the amount. I’m starting to wonder if it was supposed to be used for that purpose and if there is a connection between her stockpiling and the estrangement. In either direction, really.

      • Aquagranny911

        “Then there is the fact that, apparently it’s harder to buy Sudafed at the CVS than it is to purchase a semi-automatic rifle and ammo (for less!) at Walmart.”

        Or a damn can of spray paint to re-paint your patio furniture…

        Sing it Sister!

        This past spring I had to sign for 4 cans of locked up spray paint so I could paint some old metal chairs on my patio because of those evil awful “huffers” & gang “taggers” don’t you know!

        So sick of this two toned BS!

        • Daltex82

          So sick of this two toned BS!

          That is an excellent and very accurate description AG.

      • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

        The media is trying their best to protect Nancy Lanza. A forensic expert was on The View today, and when Joy asked him why Lanza would have guns around her home if she knew her son had mental issues. He said we shouldn’t demonize the victim. WTF? That’s not demonizing the victim, that’s a legitimate question!

        But then he went on to say parents should allow their children to play violent video game if their child has mental issues.

        *blinking*

        • dannie22

          nancy lanza prolly didnt believe her son was sick.

          • trose1

            Agree

        • Camille

          Chris Cuomo too was covering so hard for the mother.
          He was so pissed when Joy Behar raised the question. Cuomo quickly shut Joy up pulling the I typically don’t discuss dead people especially when they’re not here to defend themselves crap.
          They obviously had no difficulty maligning Trayvon Martin etc. But suddenly everyone remembers that it’s wrong to talk ill of the dead.

          And the same folks who want access to Trayvon Martin’s school report cards and eating habits and literally tried to demand that President Obama’s late mother and father be exhumed, suddenly these folks seek discretion and all the traditional observances of respect for the dead with regard to Nancy Lanza and her son the murderer.

  • rikyrah

    The Morning Plum: Is ‘God, guns, and gays’ losing its peril for Democrats?
    Posted by Greg Sargent on December 17, 2012 at 9:13 am

    In the wake of the Newtown horror, it looks like we really may see some action towards meaningful gun law reform. In his speech yesterday, President Obama pledged to “use whatever power this office holds” to spur “an effort aimed at preventing more tragedies like this.” He added that “we can’t accept events like this as routine,” and asked: “Are we prepared to say that such violence visited on our children year after year after year is somehow the price of our freedom?”

    That is a direct shot at the philosophical underpinning of the “gun rights” argument, and all but guarantees some kind of push for a policy response to the problem of mass gun violence. Meanwhile, Senator Dianne Feinstein announced yesterday that she’ll reintroduce the assault weapons ban on the first day of the new Congress.

    So here’s one thing to watch: How will red state Democrats react? My colleague Aaron Blake predicts they will balk:

    While it will be hard for any gun control bill to get GOP votes, it will also be very difficult to get votes from Senate Democrats who face reelection in red states in 2014. And they are legion. Sens. Max Baucus, Mary Landrieu, Mark Pryor, Jay Rockefeller, Tim Johnson and Kay Hagan are all up in two years and will be very tough votes to get. And that doesn’t include Democratic senators in pro-gun swing states like Mark Udall in Colorado and Jeanne Shaheen in New Hampshire.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2012/12/17/the-morning-plum-is-god-guns-and-gays-losing-its-peril-for-democrats/

    • MsKitty

      While it will be hard for any gun control bill to get GOP votes, it will also be very difficult to get votes from Senate Democrats who face reelection in red states in 2014. And they are legion. Sens. Max Baucus, Mary Landrieu, Mark Pryor, Jay Rockefeller, Tim Johnson and Kay Hagan are all up in two years and will be very tough votes to get. And that doesn’t include Democratic senators in pro-gun swing states like Mark Udall in Colorado and Jeanne Shaheen in New Hampshire.

      But everybody wants to draw and quarter PBO for not doing anything. SMH.

  • rikyrah

    Huckabee keeps digging
    By Steve Benen – Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:01 PM EST

    On Friday afternoon, while details of the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School were still coming to light, Mike Huckabee appeared on Fox News to complain about school prayer. “We ask why there is violence in our schools but we have systematically removed God from our schools,” he said.

    Upon further inspection, Huckabee’s unfortunate comments didn’t make any sense. But instead of backing off, the former Arkansas governor and failed presidential candidate managed to make matters slightly worse over the weekend.

    Reflecting on Friday’s murders, the Fox News personality argued:

    “Christian-owned businesses are told to surrender their values under the edict of government orders to provide tax-funded abortion pills. We carefully and intentionally stop saying things are sinful and we call them disorders. Sometimes, we even say they’re normal.

    “And to get to where that we have to abandon bedrock moral truths, then we ask, ‘Well, where was God?’ And I respond that, as I see it, we’ve escorted Him right out of our culture and we’ve marched Him off the public square and then we express our surprise that a culture without Him actually reflects what it’s become.”

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/12/17/15973330-huckabee-keeps-digging?lite

  • rikyrah

    GOP elevates reactionary Tim Scott to South Carolina Senate seat
    Posted by Jamelle Bouie on December 17, 2012 at 11:22 am

    Two weeks after South Carolina’s Jim DeMint left the Senate to serve as president of the Heritage Foundation, Governor Nikki Haley has appointed Rep. Tim Scott to fill his seat.

    Scott has only served one term in the House of Representatives, but he’s already made a name for himself as a rising star in the party. He defeated the son of Strom Thurmond to win his spot in Congress, and has gone on to earn praise from Mike Huckabee, Sarah Palin, and other prominent national conservatives.
    ……………………………………..

    When DeMint left the Senate, Governor Haley said that she was looking for someone who could win reelection and continue to serve. It’s worth noting that Scott fits the bill — a popular conservative, he’s well-positioned to hold the seat for as long as he wants it.

    It should be said that for all of the real problems the GOP has with diversity in terms of its organization and its candidate pool, the party does an excellent job of elevating the minorities that do find themselves in its tent. Scott joins Bobby Jindal, Nikki Haley, Marco Rubio, Suzanna Martinez, Brian Sandoval, and Ted Cruz in a growing pool of high profile, conservative nonwhites.

    But none of these people will solve the problem faced by Republicans, which is that minority voters aren’t interested in conservative policies. Indeed, Scott embodies this problem perhaps more than the others: He supports policies that can only be described as truly reactionary. He proposed a bill to kick families off of food stamps if one member went on strike as part of a union — he represents progress. And he called for the impeachment of Obama over the debt ceiling.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2012/12/17/gop-elevates-reactionary-tim-scott-to-south-carolina-senate-seat/

  • rikyrah

    Why Dems shouldn’t fear politics of gun control
    Posted by Greg Sargent on December 17, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    I noted this morning that gun control may not hold the political peril for Democrats that it once did, mainly because of the Democratic Party’s waning reliance on culturally conservative white voters. Ron Brownstein did a deep dive into older polling data and moved the ball further, establishing that the groups Obama relied upon for reelection — the emerging coalition of the Democratic Party’s future — are all behind gun control.

    Now we have a brand new Washington Post/ABC News poll that really drives this home. What’s really striking is that opposition to stricter gun control is largely driven by white men — blue collar white men in particular.

    By contrast, college educated whites, white women, moderates, and minorities all show majority support for stricter gun laws. These are the emerging pillars of the Democratic coalition.

    First, the toplines. The Post poll finds that Americans favor stricter gun laws by 54-43. The Post polling team tells me that whites oppose them by 48-50. But this is driven by opposition among white men (42-56) and non-college whites (44-53). By contrast, college educated whites favor stricter laws (54-43), as do white women (53-44).

    The same pattern is evident on semi-automatic weapons. Overall, Americans favor a nationwide ban on them by 52-44. Whites narrowly oppose this (48-49), but here again this is driven by opposition among white men (40-58) and non-college whites (42-54). By contrast, white women favor a ban by 56-40 and college educated whites favor one by 58-40.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2012/12/17/why-dems-shouldnt-fear-politics-of-gun-control/

  • rikyrah

    From The Maddow Blog:

    GOP moving on state plan to help GOP win White House
    By Laura Conaway – Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:06 PM EST

    Republicans now have full control of 24 states, and they’ve got some ideas for what to do with that power. For instance, rather than do the work of crafting policies that voters like, they’re hoping to rewrite the rules for how states back a president. From the National Journal

    “If you did the calculation, you’d see a massive shift of electoral votes in states that are blue and fully [in] red control,” said one senior Republican taking an active role in pushing the proposal. “There’s no kind of autopsy and outreach that can grab us those electoral votes that quickly.”

    The proposals, the senior GOP official said, are likely to come up in each state’s legislative session in 2013. Bills have been drafted, and legislators are talking to party bosses to craft strategy. Saul Anuzis, the former chairman of the Michigan Republican Party, has briefed Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus and Chief of Staff Jeff Larson on his state’s proposal. The proposal “is not being met with the ‘We can’t do that’ answer. It’s being met with ‘I’ve already got a bill started,’ ” the official said.

    • MonieTalks

      And I don’t want to read any more damn articles about how Republican governors “blindsided” any damn union, progressive groups and the like.

      PBO can’t even go a day without speculation, anonymous sources spreading shit, or meltdowns from the Left. They have been warned. If they don’t mobilize instead of their usual Obama-bashing, then fuck em.

    • trose1

      I keep saying the GOP is not in disarray. They are writing and enacting laws as Dems sit around crying about what GOP is doing. Something is deeply wrong with the Dem party.

    • nellcote

      Bills have been drafted, and legislators are talking to party bosses to craft strategy.
      ===
      ALEC phase 2

  • rikyrah

    Jim DeMint’s Replacement is Just As Crazy as Jim DeMint
    Posted on 12/17/2012 at 2:00 pm by JM Ashby

    South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley announced today that Tea Party Representative Tim Scott will replace Senator Jim DeMint as he exits congress bound for the Heritage Foundation.

    Scott’s legislative history, if you’re unfamiliar, leaves much to be desired if what you’re looking for in a senator is sanity and compassion. ThinkProgress has the highlights.

    Proposed a bill to cut off food stamps for entire families if one member went on strike. One of the most anti-union members of Congress, Scott proposed a bill two months after entering Congress in 2011 to kick families off food stamps if one adult were participating in a strike. Scott’s legislation made no exception for children or other dependents.

    Wanted to spend an unlimited amount of money to display Ten Commandments outside county building. When Scott was on the Charleston County Council, one of his primary issues was displaying the Ten Commandments outside the Council building. According to the Augusta Chronicle, Scott said the display “would remind council members and speakers the moral absolutes they should follow.” When he was sued for violating the Constitution and a Circuit Judge’s orders, Scott was nonplussed: “Whatever it costs in the pursuit of this goal (of displaying the Commandments) is worth it.”

    Scott also reportedly backed a state proposal to cut the state’s HIV/AIDS budget, effecting over 2000 infected people, and threatened to impeach President Obama if he unilaterally raised the national debt ceiling.

    http://bobcesca.com/blog-archives/2012/12/jim-demints-replacement-is-just-as-crazy-as-jim-demint.html

  • GreenLadyHere

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  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda —-Woo! Hoo!- – – -Good ACTION –News!!!- — FINNALLY!- – –

    — –Gun Safety Advocates Protest At NRA Offices: ‘End The Murder’ ‘Stop The NRA’- – –

    – —-More than 150 protesters rallied in front of the National Rifle Association’s lobbying offices nearby Capitol Hill, berating the group’s role in maintaining easy, unfettered access to firearms in the United States.

    The NRA has been completely silent on the mass-shooting in Connecticut, even shutting down its own Facebook page. Meanwhile, 150,000 people have signed a White House petition demanding the president take action on gun control.

    Attendees at Monday’s rally held signs reading- “Teachers stand up to gunmen but Congress won’t stand up to the NRA” and “ARMS ARE FOR HUGGING — GUN CONTROL NOW”. With chants of “shame on the NRA,” -the group marched from Spirit of Justice Park to the NRA’s Federal Affairs Division, which is responsible for the organization’s lobbying efforts.

    Photos from today’s event:

    – — -SNIP — –
    In the decade between 2000 and 2009, more than 298,000 people were killed by gunshots in the U.S., almost 30,000 people a year. Excluding natural causes of death such as heart attacks and cancer, gunfire was the second-leading cause of death; only automobile accidents killed more people.

    ‘THERE IS MORE!!- – — HAH!!

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    • conlakappa

      This actually might get traction if CREDO was able to assemble a group so quickly. I received an e-mail at 1:19 p.m. yesterday, which means they were able to get 150 people together with less than 24-hour notice.

      • GreenLadyHere

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  • creolechild

    Gun Safety Advocates Protest At NRA Offices: ‘End The Murder’ ‘Stop The NRA’

    More than 150 protesters rallied in front of the National Rifle Association’s lobbying offices nearby Capitol Hill, berating the group’s role in maintaining easy, unfettered access to firearms in the United States.[....]

    Attendees at Monday’s rally, organized by CREDO, held signs reading “Teachers stand up to gunmen but Congress won’t stand up to the NRA” and “ARMS ARE FOR HUGGING — GUN CONTROL NOW”. With chants of “shame on the NRA,” the group marched from Spirit of Justice Park to the NRA’s Federal Affairs Division, which is responsible for the organization’s lobbying efforts.[....]

    In the decade between 2000 and 2009, more than 298,000 people were killed by gunshots in the U.S., almost 30,000 people a year. Excluding natural causes of death such as heart attacks and cancer, gunfire was the second-leading cause of death; only automobile accidents killed more people.

    Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/12/17/1347651/nra-protest/

    H/T Scott Jeyes

    • conlakappa

      ::blinks::

      Unless it is in their districts/States. Then all of heaven and earth should be moved to get dollars to the survivors. Filled with pork, hmmm, like those Jeb FEMA trailers? The continued lack of humanity is bracing.

  • MonieTalks

    Tea Party Fly vomit Judson Philips actually wrote the following as one of his asinine solutions to prevent from tragedies like Sandy Hook:

    Support the creation of local organizations to act as “neighborhood watch” for schools. Had George Zimmerman been at the front door instead of some mechanical card reader those children would still be alive. Perhaps it’s time we start asking for volunteers to protect our children.

    read more: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/12/17/1346491/tea-party-group-attributes-connecticut-shooting-to-teachers-unions-and-sex/

    • conlakappa

      He has so deluded himself that he thinks that Zimmerman would have stood his ground against a white boy, no matter how deranged and heavy-bag-carrying he appeared to be?

      • MonieTalks

        What pisses me off even more is that the POS has equated Trayvon Martin to Adam Lanza. Trayvon was unarmed and as undeserving of his murder as that of the CT victims. He was pursued and targeted, not the other way around.

        • GN

          Exactly, this man is insane. Watching people’s reactions to these children killed (both Trayvon and the little babies in CT) has been so disturbing. There are some complete nutjobs in this country.

          • conlakappa

            Remember the Bob Herbert story, “what color was that baby?”

    • GN

      Zimmerman is a child-killer. That statement is completely, totally, and utterly psychotic. Schools in his area need to keep watch on Mr. Philips.

    • GOVCHRIS1988

      Seriously? There are just some people who seriously need their asses whupped. Just a beatdown.

    • dannie22

      dude is psychotic.

    • rikyrah

      G-T-F-O-H with that bullshyt

    • http://themidnightsolution.blogspot.com LTMidnight

      Oh my favorite statement from one of these teabagging racists:

      “…..According to Birdnow, “for far too long we have tiptoed around these issues, fearful of being branded a racist.” He believes, “If black thugs kidnap and rape a woman,” we should “ask if there is something in the black culture that fostered that.”…”

      So black people are genetically pre-disposed to “thuggish” behavior according to this miserable bastard? What if “white thugs” kidnap and rape a woman? Is there something in “white culture” that foster such behavior?

      • Admiral_Komack

        White kid kills mother, children and others: “Oh, he’s just sick.”

      • Alma98

        I hate to tell him this happened on a regular basis to black women for hundreds of years.

        • isonprize

          and don’t forget the key part, NOBODY WHITE GAVE A DAMN.

    • AxelFoley

      This person is the kind of cancer that needs to be eliminated from America. Period.

  • creolechild

    Michigan Republicans Inoculate Themselves from Recall in Lame Duck Marathon Posted 12/14/2012

    What do you do when you aren’t representing the people and they’re starting to get wise to you? You make it harder for them to recall you. That’s what the Michigan Republicans did this morning.

    Amid a flurry of lame duck ALEC based legislation they passed, including allowing concealed weapons in schools, churches, arenas, hospitals and more (that they passed this on the eve of the Connecticut elementary school shooting tragedy appears to have caused no shame), weakening abortion rights, restricting medical marijuana, and taking away collective bargaining from unions, Michigan Republicans also passed legislation aimed at creating a safety net for their theft of democracy. [....]

    Read more: http://www.politicususa.com/michigan-republicans-inoculate-recall-lame-duck-marathon.html

    H/T Sarah Jones

    • aleth

      No sympathy from me– elections have consequences. I remember 2010 election on POU

      • trose1

        Chickens come home to roost!

  • creolechild

    Democratic Senator Wants Corporate Tax Revenue Included In Budget Deal

    [....] Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) pushed Friday for including tens of billions of dollars in additional revenues from corporations into any year-end tax-and-spending deal. [...] On the Friday call, Levin said that he wanted the elimination of corporate tax breaks to be an immediate revenue-raiser in a deal, or that a commitment to end those incentives be part of a broader, long-term deal.

    The Michigan Democrat also said that wringing some $200 billion to $300 billion out of corporations would be sufficient in a broader deal.[....]

    Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/12/14/1336551/democratic-senator-corporate-tax-revenue/

    H/T Pat Garofalo

  • creolechild

    Portland Bike Maker Sees Made-in-USA Demand from Overseas

    [....] Annual sales for Chris King Precision Components are about $10 million. Half of that comes from overseas orders, from Bangkok to Berlin. In September, King went to the White House to talk about how to boost other American exports. He’s been in regular touch with the Obama Administration since.

    Exporting is easier for premium brands, and King is the Patek Philippe of cycle components. King’s gear is expensive, durable, and it has cachet among riders. Unlike the Swiss watchmaker, he doesn’t advertise. He ran his last ad in 2001 and now relies on reputation.[....]

    Read more: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-12-14/portland-bike-maker-sees-made-in-usa-demand-from-overseas#r=nav-r-story

    H/T Anthony Effinger

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda- — HAH! — -DEY CAIN’T FACE da – — MUSIC!!- — – Waitaminute. . .they postponed their – –MUSIC EVENT!!- —with –APOLOGIES! humph!!

    – — NOW THIS:- —NRA Takes Down Facebook Page- —

    – – — -Ad Week: - “The National Rifle Association shut down a key Twitter account last summer in the aftermath of the Aurora, Colo. theater shootings. On Saturday, one day after the unthinkable shootings at a Newtown, Conn. elementary school, the NRA took a more drastic measure by deactivating its Facebook page after celebrating getting to 1.7 million fans on the social site earlier in the week.”

    “While the group has not commented since Friday’s tragedy,- it appears to have staked out a strategy to take its brand out of the social media picture in the wake of a mass-shooting news event. Given its guns-rights cause, the social media buzz after such events seems to be an unenviable conversation for the org to partake in.”

    – — -HAH! — -DEY been- – -SHOT! — -DOWN!!- – – -by — -SHAME!!- — HAH!- —

    – –Annnd — -their – -SURROGATES- -CONTINUE 2 SHOOT dey mouths off!! — -LOL – –Luvin’ it!!! LOL – – –

    • Daltex82

      They’re just laying low content to let their paid mouthpieces take the heat. Unfortunately they will rise again once the outrage has quite down.

      • GreenLadyHere

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  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    All those EmoProgs and PLs saying PBO should’ve been more specific when he called for more meaningful action need to ask Snyder to be more specific about what “extra consideration” means.

    Connecticut massacre, memories of shooting at his college dorm prompt Gov. Snyder to give gun bill ‘extra consideration’
    By Jeff Karoub Associated Press

    Gov. Rick Snyder pledged today to take a close look at legislation that could allow concealed weapons in schools and churches following the massacre at a Connecticut elementary school that evoked painful memories of a fatal shooting at his college dormitory more than three decades ago.

    Snyder told The Associated Press during an interview that his public safety concerns have been heightened and “deserve extra consideration” following a mass shooting that left 26 people — including 20 children — dead at a Connecticut elementary school.

    “We’re looking at the whole situation due to Connecticut, not just the fact that there’s a bill out there,” the Republican governor said. “One of the things I’ve asked our team to look at is what’s going with school policies, with mental-health-related issues, because in many respects it appears this was a mentally ill person. … What that legislation says will be looked at through the lens of all that’s happened.”

    MORE: http://www.freep.com/article/20121217/NEWS06/121217027/Snyder-Gun-bill-to-give-extra-consideration-?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|s

  • aleth

    There is something weird about Bloomberg everywhere– who the fuck is he? Isn’t he just a mayor? Why not attack his own governor who sounds like an NRA speaker?

    It appears the media is trying to absorb the white males with the gun from any responsibility. I am just trying to imagine when the President could have worked on gun legislation– is it during the economic crisis, two wars, health care and every other fucked up shit he had to deal with? Is it during their Obama is doing too much complaints? gay rights? DOMA? etc.. when? Does he get to breathe?

    Really amazing.. they need to look at the mirror because EACH one of them over the last four years are culpable. Every one of them who made excuses for the Palins, the tea party, gave voice to the NRA–“Obama coming to take our gun movement” etc…

    • dannie22

      i really hate mike “dont drink large soda” bloomberg

    • trose1

      Bloomberg had/has a PAC and was using it in a California congressional race. How is this permitted?
      Bloomberg has been left alone about the unpreparedness of NYC when a heavy rain hit.
      We haven’t heard anything about that crane that was left dangling.
      If PBO was that incompetant we would be hearing about it today.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Juss sayin….

    Walmart Community ‏@WalmartAction
    Congratulations on your historic achievement & appointment to the U.S Senate, @reptimscott!

    • Miranda

      Reason #57229 to neva shop at Walmart.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    HA HAHAHHAHAHAHA!

    Kelly O’Donnell ‏@KellyO
    .@nikkihaley “As a minority woman, its important to me that Congressman Scott earned this seat…”

    • conlakappa

      Lose weight now, Sen. Scott, you will be traveling the country as walking proof that there is no race problem in the GOP. Nope, none at all.

      • angee

        while the black folks in SC continue to reject his backward azz. Wonder if the msm will report THAT!

        • conlakappa

          Probably not. Or represent it as just a few disgruntled blacks. The Rs will claim it is people trying to get stuff for free. That is a messed-up, not-unified State party: remember that officials within it (1) tried to out the one to of Graham that is still in the closet and (2) alleged that Haley had affairs.

          • angee

            How can the msm take up the mantle that he’s a BLACK role model when his trifling chick fil a tom azz have NO blk supporters?
            I hope Clyburn/CBC go hard on his behind election time. IF nothing else to have soundbites out there showing the truth.

          • rikyrah

            he’s a slave catching handkerchief head.

            period

    • Miranda
    • GOVCHRIS1988

      Heifer must be on bathsalts. Yep, there trying to get a jump on election 2016.

    • creolechild

      WUH?

      Did I miss something?

      When did Nikki Haley come over to “the dark side?”

      “Minority woman”…HAHAHAHAHA…Nikki got jokes! Who knew?

  • MonieTalks

    Something else bothers me about the circumstances surrounding the shooting.

    If Adam Lanza visited the school a day prior, and had an “altercation” with individual(s) at the school, were the police called? Why wasn’t he arrested? An arrest and booking may have forced his mother to bail him out, which may have led to a psychiatric hospital stay.

    Small town or not, if a person is disruptive at a public place in which he/she has no business or connection to, it needs to be dealt with. Especially in a school, where the protocol is normally you sign in with a stated purpose of why you are visiting since it is filled with vulnerable children.

    • goldenstar

      Where do you find this report of visiting the school?

    • rikyrah

      if Lanza were BLack, his ass woulda been in jail from this ‘ incident’, and wouldn’t have had the opportunity to return to the school.

      yeah, I said it

      • majii

        Bingo!!!! During my 33 years of teaching, I witnessed the difference in the way the head principal and other school officials, including BOE members, would handle disruptive parents/visitors based on race, socio-economic standing, and how “well” the family was regarded in the community. I’m sure these factors played a role in the reason why law enforcement wasn’t called after Adam Lanza’s altercation with school officials at Sandy Hook on last Thursday. This difference showed up in the way students were disciplined, too. A black/Hispanic kid would usually receive a harsher punishment for doing the same thing that a white student would do. This is the kind of sh*t these folks do.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda- — -THIS —–is INSULTING!- – — INSENSITIVE!- — -annnd DISGUSTING!!- – – – -GO – -PICKET – -THIS PLACE!!- – –

    – – –Texas Gun Store Owner Is Offering Teacher Discounts- – –

    – – —Crocket Keller, owner of Kellers Riverside Gun Store near Austin, TX, announced on local radio show KRLD that he would start offering a discount for teachers who want to carry a concealed weapon after the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut on Friday. Keller talked enthusiastically of the need to arm teachers:

    HOST: In light of this tragic, tragic shooting, teachers, educators may be wanting to get themselves certified to carry a concealed handgun. If they came to your store, what would you do for them and what kind of guidance would you give?

    – – –SNIP- —

    – – –1 MO’ TIME!!!-- – – -Keller went on to argue, “Any place where the citizenry is not allowed to defend itself is at risk.” This is a common claim by pro-gun advocates that has been debunked repeatedly. While many gun rights advocates have argued that armed teachers could have saved the lives of the Newtown children, not a single mass murder in the past 30 years has been stopped by a civilian with a gun. Moreover, an analysis by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center found that the high accessibility of guns creates a higher risk of homicide across the board at the city, state, and national levels.
    THERE IS MORE- — -DRIVEL!!!- –DRIVEL!!!! —

    – — WHAT!- – — A!- – – — CROCK!!! - — geesh!!!

    • Ebogan63

      Like I tweeted the other day: too many of these foolz have watched ‘Gunsmoke’ too much.

      • GreenLadyHere

        LOL Ebogan63. **BIG HUG** :>)

        Or the – -“SHOOTOUT at da O.K. CORAL”!- – -LOL.

        – – – -BEYOND — WACKED!! :>)

        Good 2 c U Ebogan63. :>)

        • Ebogan63

          Anyway, as Ken pointed out to me on Twitter: Matt Dillon often took foolz guns away and put them in jail. Wasn’t always about a shootout. :)

          • GreenLadyHere

            Ebogan63 – – -Sounds like a winner 2 me. LOL

            BUT – – -That’s da problem!!– -Da “bitter’s R hidin’ their GUNS. – – – LOL – – -

    • http://themidnightsolution.blogspot.com LTMidnight

      I swear most of these idiots want a return to the Wild West.

      Next thing you know, they”ll want to bring back challenging people to a duel.

      • Ebogan63

        Hey Zell Miller did it, why not? :)

      • nellcote

        a return to the Wild West.
        ===
        Infamous Dodge City had one of the strictest gun control laws ever. You turned in your guns when you hit town and got them back when you were leaving.

  • MonieTalks

    Interesting stuff…..remind people of this:

    About a month after Obama took office, in February 2009, Attorney General Eric Holder said that the administration wanted to reinstate the ban on the sale of assault weapons.

    But then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California, a fellow Democrat of Obama, threw cold water on the idea. “I think we need to enforce the laws we have right now,” she said then.

    And a spokesman for another Democratic leader, then-Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, said the senator would oppose any effort to revive the assault weapons ban. Reid, a Democrat from the western state of Nevada, had voted against the ban when it was instituted back in 1994.

    Holder then backtracked. When he was asked about the assault weapons ban again three weeks later, he said, “I think what we’re going to do is try to enforce the laws that we have on the books.”

    http://www.courant.com/news/politics/sns-rt-us-usa-shooting-connecticut-obamabre8bg0n2-20121217,0,6252975.story?page=2

    • Ebogan63

      I have on Twitter, but I get the standard ‘But he wasn’t forceful enough’ bullshit, proving once again that some should pick a different hobby, cuz politics ain’t for them.

    • Alma98
    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      Pelosi is my girl, and I appreciate Reid’s recent gangsta, but they need to be called out.

    • Guns3000

      Reid and Pelosi were correct. Think about the time frame. The economy was in a free fall. The country just elected the first AA President. The last thing we needed was fight about guns and play in the nutjobs hands about “Obummer taking my guns” away nonsense.

      • MonieTalks

        Guns3000, whether they were correct or not, they need to be FORCEFUL in disclaiming that this President offered no leadership on this topic.

        Repeatedly, Democrats have left PBO hanging out to dry, while inaccuracies about his record are repeated over and over. It is past time that Democratic leaders like Pelosi and Reid be honest….. there were many times the Democratic caucus were scared asses on different legislation (like on the Bush tax cuts) and left the President to negotiate their positions after they all but abandoned bringing bills forth.

        But if it appeared he had to compromise with the Rethugs, these same Democrats made it their mission to criticize his actions on TV and everywhere else, failing to bring up that their tip-toeing asses were reluctant players. That’s the bullshit of it all.

        • Guns3000

          Monie I see what you are saying. I think no matter the excitement some Democrats shown when PBO was re-elected. I think a lot of them thought he was going to be a one term President. Their behavior in past I believe was political cover in case the President wasn’t re-elected and for their own political purposes. I don’t think you are going to see much of those shenanigans anymore.

  • goldenstar

    Senator Inouye of Hawaii has passed away. He was 88 years old and served in the 442nd during World War II.

    • morphus

      RIP

    • angee

      RIP!

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      RIP, Senator Inouye.

    • rikyrah

      RIP, Senator Inouye

    • GreenLadyHere

      HEEY GOLDenstar: ***BIG HUG*** :>)

      – – -Joinin’ in the CONDOLENCES. – –RIHEP – -SEN. INOUYE. – –

      – –He SUPPORTED MR. PRESIDENT’s JOB ACT. :>)

      – –Senator Inouye Backs American Jobs Act [September 08, 2011 ] – –

      – – – -“This evening America heard a message of hope. President Obama’s speech clearly demonstrates that he is a national leader that will not rest until the work is done. We need to put Americans back to work and the President has a plan to create jobs by fixing roads, bridges, building schools and constructing the critical infrastructure our nation desperately needs and I support him. I stand ready to work with the President and my colleagues from both sides of the aisle to once again make America the greatest nation in the world,” said Senator Daniel K. Inouye. – –

      – — CONDOLENCES 2 FAMILY/FRIENDS. AMEN. :>)

    • Alma98

      RIP.

    • majii

      The 442nd is the most highly decorated combat unit in U.S. military history. Senator Inouye was not only a credit to the Senate, but a credit to our country. To serve in the military at a time when nearly everyone in the nation despised you is extremely honorable and a sign of real patriotism.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda- – – -Annnd da DELAY was “CAUSE????_ — – – HIS VOTES were STILL bein’ COUNTED??- – -LOL

    – — —Electoral College set to affirm President Obama’s re-election - —

    – – –Tradition trumped suspense Monday as members of the Electoral College cast the official, final votes in the 2012 presidential election, a constitutional formality on President Barack Obama’s march to a second term.

    The rite playing in state capitols involved party luminaries and tireless activists carrying out the will of each state’s voters. The popular vote from state-to-state dictates whether Democratic or Republican electors get the honor, but the outcome is not in doubt.

    Obama is on course to get 332 votes to Republican Mitt Romney’s 206, barring defectors known as “faithless electors.” Electors also were affirming Joe Biden for another term as vice president.

    —-SNIP- —

    The certified tally sheets are on their way to Washington, where Congress will officially count them on Jan. 6. Obama is to be sworn in a couple of weeks later.- – —

    —- UN-FLIPPIN’ – -BELIEVABLE!!- – -HE! WON! —–DANG-IT!!–geesh!

    [Gotta - -"hit da road" -- C U soon!!! :>)- --]

    • Alma98

      RIP.

      • GreenLadyHere

        LOL – –HEEY Alma98. ***BIG HUG*** :>) – –

        Jus’ won’t — LET! – -IT! GO –HUH? LOL – —

        Good 2 C U Alma. – -:>) – -

      • GreenLadyHere

        Sorry Alma. – – -u were replyin’ 2 the post on the late Sen. Inouye. I join U. :>) – – -

        • Alma98

          Yes I was dang it discus!

  • http://themidnightsolution.blogspot.com LTMidnight

    Is it just me, or do some of these gun nuts think only white people are able to buy guns? I have a pistol and a shotgun because I do hunt.

    I think some of these backwoods hillbillies waiting for RaHoWa are scared the black kenyan, muslim, athiest, socialist, facist is plotting to take away their “strategic advantage”, but seriously.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    While Bloomberg was holding press conferences, and EmoProgs/PLs were making self-righteous tweets demanding PBO take on gun control…

    Obama held talks with Biden, Cabinet members on Newtown response
    Reuters – 55 mins ago

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Barack Obama held talks on Monday with Vice President Joe Biden and three Cabinet members to look at ways to respond to the Newtown, Connecticut, school shootings, a White House official said.

    Obama has said he would support action to address mass shootings in the United States, but no steps have been spelled out by the White House as of yet. As a starter, Democrats would like to reinstate a ban on assault weapons that expired in 2004.

    A White House official said Obama had discussions with White House senior staff as well as Education Secretary Arne Duncan, Attorney General Eric Holder and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.

    The objective was to “begin looking at ways the country can respond to the tragedy in Newtown,” the official said. The official gave no specifics but said work would continue.

    http://news.yahoo.com/obama-held-talks-biden-cabinet-members-newtown-response-225953204.html

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    The GOP’s bottom bish strikes again and gets whooped like the trick he is:

    Jake Tapper ‏@jaketapper
    @ArrogantDemon @AVD911 yes, blame me for the WH inability to name one thing POTUS has done to get “weapons of war” off the streets.

    Arrogant Demon ‏@ArrogantDemon
    @jaketapper @AVD911 it takes legislation to be brought, debated & passed it takes the will of Congress & the people to hold them accountable

    Dannie Owens ‏@DAOWENS44
    @jaketapper its called congress you dumbass!! @ArrogantDemon @AVD911

    Cindy ‏@JustCindeh
    @jaketapper @arrogantdemon @avd911 CONGRESS, DUMMY!!!

    StereoCultureSociety ‏@CultureInStereo
    @jaketapper @ArrogantDemon @AVD911 Perhaps Mr. Tapper has a point. Can we blame your shitty reporting instead?

    The Toast ‏@TheToast2012
    @jaketapper @arrogantdemon @avd911 I didn’t realize Obama was a lawmaker & had the ability to write laws. Hmm.

    • rikyrah

      bravo you Twitter army.

      kick that ass!!

    • nellcote

      Can we blame your shitty reporting instead?
      ===
      LOL!

    • Kennymack1971

      BWAH HA HA Serves his right. GOP Bottom Bish indeed.

    • isonprize

      Perhaps Mr. Tapper has a point. Can we blame your shitty reporting instead?

      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    • majii

      Jake Tapper needed his sorry ass whipped by the Twitter Brigade/Army because he readily carries forward the GOP talking points and attacks PBO for inaction in Congress due to republican obstruction. He is a prime example of the fact that members of our MSM need to be required to take refresher courses in civics before being allowed to report on anything having to do with any level of government. I taught civics for over 30 years until I retired in 2009, and I am always surprised when misinformation about the way our government is supposed to operate emanates from the members of our media whose job is supposed to be to inform the public.

      • isonprize

        Majii, with your 30 years of experience teaching civics, you need to be on talk shows EVERY SUNDAY as a fact checker.

        Majii’s magic meter: The range would go from “yes, this is how it’s done” to “no, this is pure, unadulterated BS”

        ( You’re welcome. My bill will be in the mail. LOLOLOL)

  • rikyrah

    From Charles Pierce:

    The Latest GOP Election Finagle
    By Charles P. Pierce
    at 4:00PM

    There is no longer any reason to believe that the Republican party has any intention of changing itself to adapt to a changing America. Every story you read to that effect is a lie. Every apparent attempt by the party to convince you that it is planning to do it is a fake. They are not planning on adapting to a changing country. What they’re planning is to change the system of presidential elections so that they never have to do so. I’m not sure it will work, but that hasn’t stopped them recently.

    Republicans alarmed at the apparent challenges they face in winning the White House are preparing an all-out assault on the Electoral College system in critical states, an initiative that would significantly ease the party’s path to the Oval Office. Senior Republicans say they will try to leverage their party’s majorities in Democratic-leaning states in an effort to end the winner-take-all system of awarding electoral votes. Instead, bills that will be introduced in several Democratic states would award electoral votes on a proportional basis. Already, two states — Maine and Nebraska — award an electoral vote to the winner of each congressional district. The candidate who wins the most votes statewide takes the final two at-large electoral votes. Only once, when President Obama won a congressional district based in Omaha in 2008, has either of those states actually split their vote. But if more reliably blue states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin were to award their electoral votes proportionally, Republicans would be able to eat into what has become a deep Democratic advantage.

    The only reason they still control the House Of Representatives is that they gerrymandered the local districts so as to maintain that advantage. This is simply the next stage of the rocket. They have largely given up on persuading a majority of American voters that their ideas matter, or that they are the best choice to lead the entire country. This is, of course, not unprecedented. In the election of 1800, in which Thomas Jefferson and his party broke the power of the Federalists, the method of selecting and awarding electoral votes was part and parcel of that year’s superheated political brawling. In Virginia, for example, James Madison, the patron saint of minority rights, helped ram a bill through that changed that state’s method of awarding presidential electors from a district-by-district system to winner-take-all based on the popular vote, essentially the reverse of what the GOP is trying to do now. Of course, the country was 11 years old then.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    This bish done lost her gotdang mind!

    Newsweek Wins Worst Newtown Reaction Award
    By Jonathan Chait

    It what can only be seen as a malicious plot by Newsweek’s editors to ensure Megan McArdle’s reputation does not outlive its print magazine, the magazine has published a 4,000 word essay by its new hire on how to stop massacres like last Friday’s. McArdle begins her essay with a prescient harbinger (“There just aren’t good words to talk about Newtown.”) but recovers to churn out a fairly standard libertarian argument about why various government remedies won’t work. And it’s true, to some extent, that various regulatory solutions all have complications.

    The problem comes at the end when, having dismissed the standard liberal regulatory measures as unworkable, she has to propose her own solution. This is what McArdle comes up with:

    I’d also like us to encourage people to gang rush shooters, rather than following their instincts to hide; if we drilled it into young people that the correct thing to do is for everyone to instantly run at the guy with the gun, these sorts of mass shootings would be less deadly, because even a guy with a very powerful weapon can be brought down by 8-12 unarmed bodies piling on him at once.

    MORE: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/12/newsweek-wins-worst-newtown-reaction-award.html

    • http://themidnightsolution.blogspot.com LTMidnight

      Is she willing to be one of those “gang rushers”?

    • Alma98

      Why don’t she test this theory out and let us know how it works out.

      • Camille

        Lol!

      • edp4bho

        You read my mind, Alma. I’d love to know if she can return like Coyote does in the Road Runner, from all his bruises LOL !

        • Alma98

          LOL!

    • rikyrah

      don’t talk about affirmative action when you have non-talents like McArdle in your employ

  • MonieTalks

    Taking a look back….where was Bloomberg then, Dianne Feinstein, Carolyn McCarthy??….all these long time “leading” gun control advocates. Where was their leadership then?

    Federal ban on assault weapons expires
    By Jill Lawrence, USA TODAY
    WASHINGTON — The expiration of the 10-year-old ban on 19 types of assault weapons Monday drove up business at some gun stores and set off sparks in the political world.

    John Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee, said President Bush had failed tests of character and leadership. But the National Rifle Association lauded the demise of what it called a “misguided law, which had no effect on the actions of criminals, but penalized law-abiding citizens.”

    Bush said in the 2000 campaign that he would sign an extension of the 10-year ban on the semiautomatic weapons. However, he did not press Congress to send him such a bill, and its Republican leaders never did.

    …White House spokesman Scott McClellan said Monday that Bush “does not set the legislative timetable.” Asked whether it was disingenuous for Bush to say he supported the ban and then do nothing to extend it, McClellan said, “His position has always been well-known.” He said the best way to prevent gun violence is to better enforce current laws. Since Bush took office, McClellan said, prosecutions for crimes committed with guns are up 68%.

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-09-12-weapons-ban_x.htm

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Gentrification strikes again…

    Harlem to Say Goodbye to an Art Deco Haven of Jazz
    By KIA GREGORY
    Published: December 7, 2012

    The Lenox Lounge, where Billie Holiday had a table, Dizzy Gillespie played his trumpet, and James Baldwin soaked up the scene, where the burgundy leather couches, Art Deco light fixtures and zebra-print wallpaper stir up memories of other eras, and where, even now, everybody knows everybody, will close on Dec. 31.

    It will begin the new year with a new owner: Richard Notar, a managing partner of the Nobu restaurant chain, known for its Japanese cuisine and celebrity clientele from downtown Manhattan to Cape Town. Alvin Reed, the longtime owner, said he could no longer afford the lease.

    … Property values have been rising with the area’s popularity. Real estate developers have said that retail space in the area now commands rents of $60 to $70 per square foot.

    “They want $20,000 a month,” Mr. Reed said. “I can’t afford that.”

    MORE: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/08/nyregion/harlem-to-say-goodbye-to-the-lenox-lounge.html

    • Miranda

      Sad to see such a pivotal place in jazz history be brushed aside like this.

    • morphus

      More Bill Clinton’s Harlem gentrification fallout?

  • aleth

    Has the media received a diagnosis from a doctor that identified the criminal as mentally ill or is that a label certain people get after killing 28 people?

  • rikyrah

    Banks push to change Nevada law that crimped foreclosures

    Foreclosures in Nevada could spike next year if lawmakers and banks roll back a bill passed in 2011 that played a large role in stymieing banks’ attempts to retake homes from Nevadans, according to the state’s banking association president and housing analysts.

    But more foreclosures aren’t necessarily a bad thing for Nevada’s housing market, at least in the long term, according to housing analysts.

    Banks are in talks with Democratic Attorney General Catherine Cortez Masto and lawmakers about how to amend the state law that slowed foreclosures to a trickle in fall 2011, according to the Las Vegas Sun.

    Although foreclosures since have risen, they’re still about a quarter of where they were before the law went into effect.

    At issue is Assembly Bill 284, a measure passed by the Nevada Legislature in 2011 and signed by Republican Gov. Brian Sandoval that forces banks to prove they have the legal right to foreclose on a particular home before they take action. Most important, the law requires bank workers to sign an affidavit that they have personal knowledge of a property’s document history, or they will face criminal or civil penalties.

    Democratic lawmakers and Cortez Masto, who helped pass the bill, said the law was intended to uphold the integrity of the legal process and protect homeowners from banks wrongfully foreclosing on homeowners without having necessary paperwork. She has said it was never intended to prevent legitimate foreclosures.

    But after the law took effect in late 2011, foreclosures in Nevada — which previously led the nation in foreclosures — ground to a halt.

    .

    http://www.rgj.com/article/20121215/BIZ02/312150060/?nclick_check=1

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – –A STATEMENT of CONDOLENCE FROM MR. PRESIDENT: – —

    – — -Obama mourns Inouye: Country ‘has lost a true American hero’ – –

    – — -President Obama on Monday remembered the late Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii) as “someone revered by all of us lucky enough to know him.”

    “Tonight, our country has lost a true American hero with the passing of Senator Daniel Inouye,” Obama said in a statement just an hour after Inouye’s office announced that he had died.

    Referring to Inouye as “Danny,” Obama noted that he’d represented Hawaii in Congress since it won statehood in 1959 – first in the House and then, beginning in 1963, in the Senate.

    “In Washington, he worked to strengthen our military, forge bipartisan consensus, and hold those of us in government accountable to the people we were elected to serve,” Obama said. “But it was his incredible bravery during World War II – including one heroic effort that cost him his arm but earned him the Medal of Honor – that made Danny not just a colleague and a mentor, but someone revered by all of us lucky enough to know him.”

    Obama, who was born and raised in Hawaii, didn’t get particularly personal in his statement, but he did conclude by saying: “Our thoughts and prayers are with the Inouye family.”

    From his campaign Twitter account, @barackobama, the president added: “Aloha, Danny.”

    – – -He is EVER- COMPASSIONATE. – – -as USUAL. :>) – – –

  • MonieTalks

    Dunn’s lawyers already look like they up on some technicality bullshit..anything to get these callous teen murderers off.

    Michael Dunn’s attorney: SUV moved after Jordan Davis shooting

    ACKSONVILLE, Fla. — It was an emotional day for Jordan Davis’ parents. For the first time since their son’s death, they came face to face with his accused killer.

    “To see him physically standing before us, I feel so sorry for him, I feel so sorry for him because he has to bear the burden for the rest of his life” said Lucia McBath, Jordan Davis’ mother.

    A shackled 45-year-old Michael Dunn walked into a Duval County courtroom this morning.

    His new attorney Cory Strolla, entered not guilty pleas on all counts and does not discard the possibility of using the controversial Stand Your Ground Law in his defense.

    “If the facts fit the law, if they do and I research it, if it’s a viable defense, a reasonable defense, I’m going to vigorously pursue that on behalf of Michael Dunn” said Cory Strolla, defense attorney.

    ….New details in the case were revealed in court today about the SUV the teens were traveling in. According to Strolla, he expects the police reports to show that the red Durango Davis was in, left the crime scene and came back before police arrived.

    “The ballistics will show that if a gun is fired from just a few feet away from where my client’s car was and those boys told police they never left the scene, well that’s obviously a false report to police,” said Strolla.

    The Davis family lawyer did not deny that possibility. “What would you do if some one is shooting 10 rounds at you?” said John Phillips, the Davis family attorney.

    http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Michael-Dunns-attorney-SUV-moved-after-Jordan/uH5MSsjJ_EyhZ39O4GitqQ.cspx

  • isonprize

    Same people that are demanding Pres. Obama take action on assault weapons, didn’t demand crap when the ban expired in 2004 under Bush.— Michael Hargrove (@MichaelHargrov1) December 17, 2012

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      How did you post the tweet like that?

      • Miranda

        Hmmmm….we got features we didn’t even know we had! LOL

      • isonprize

        1. pick the tweet
        2. click ‘expand’
        3. click ‘details’ (near the date)
        4. choose ‘embed this tweet’
        5. copy the code that shows up
        6. paste said code into a POU comment or reply section.

        But here’s the thing. DISQUS HATEUS sometimes. ‘cuz sometimes it shows up as the big giant quotation mark. Other times it shows up the way a tweet looks on twitter.

        For instance, right now, for me, it’s back to showing up with the big giant left quotation mark.

        Whatever, DISQUS, whatever… Why you gotta be so hinkty?

        • crazycanuck

          That NEVER works for me. I’ve tried so many times.

          • isonprize

            CC, like I said. Earlier today, it looked like a tweet. Now, to me, it has the giant quote marks. Do you see it as a tweet?

          • crazycanuck

            yes, I see a tweet. I can do that on nearly every board I go to, but I can’t here. Weird.

  • rikyrah

    From The Washington Post:

    When senators learned that Daniel Inouye died
    Posted by Ed O’Keefe on December 17, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    “Our friend, Dan Inouye just died,” Reid said.

    Senators froze in silence, except for Harkin, who gasped, grabbed his desk, leaned forward and stood briefly, as if in prayer, before sitting down. Leahy stood at his desk, towering over Reid’s left shoulder, before taking his seat.

    “I have never known anyone like Dan Inouye. No one else has,” Reid said, his voice quivering as he struggled to find words to match the moment. “The kindness that he has shown for my time here in the Senate is something I will cherish always. A man who has lived and breathed the Senate. If there were ever a patriot, Dan Inouye was that patriot.”

    As Reid spoke, Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.) stood in the back of the chamber, his arms crossed, his head down, with spectacles resting on his nose.

    Reid recalled a story about Inouye’s son, who once asked the senator why he had volunteered to fight in War World II, even though the U.S. had declared Japanese Americans “enemy aliens.” Reid said Inouye’s response was that “he did it for the children. That’s Senator Inouye.”

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Let the EmoProg freak out begin!

    Obama is now seeking $1.2 trillion in new tax revenue from individual income, down from $1.4 trillion last week and $1.6 trillion in his original offer, according to a source familiar with the negotiations.

    Instead of seeking to increase taxes on taxpayers with income above $250,000 per year, Obama is now asking to increase the 35 percent rate to 39.6 percent for those making above $400,000.

    Obama is seeking to permanently extend current tax rates for those making less.

    Obama is also offering to change the way inflation is calculated in benefit programs, a move opposed by most liberals. The new method, known as chained consumer price index (CPI), would rase $130 billion more in revenue. A source said that provisions are included to protect the most vulnerable.

    MORE: http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/273385-obama-makes-new-fiscal-offer-to-boehner?utm_campaign=briefingroom&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitterfeed

    • Miranda

      The shrieking and shrilling without actually reading the official proposal and understanding it ONE BIT will commence in 5….4…..3…..2….

    • Kennymack1971

      And the bitching and whining has already begun. These Charlie Brown mofos stay trying to kick the football and miss everytime.

    • aleth

      CPI? I think boener will reject deal anyways. The GOP wants debt limit fight and he does not have the votes. Our focus should be on 2014 and we need to avoid silly season ala 2010.

      I hope this is like the last debt ceiling fight where boener walked with nothing. I see president wants to deal with all crisis now instead of debt deal in feb again. Smart but at what prize

    • lamh36

      Hypothesis: Obama would like to get the debt ceiling/fiscal cliff negotiations done before next Congress (still controlled by GOP, but more Dems than before) so that he can focus all early efforts to get gun control legislation passed while the story and still front and center in the minds of so many people and the so far NRA and gun nuts are set back on their heels and maybe strike before they get back on their feets.

      Not commenting on the merits of the deal, just suggesting a mindset for getting negotiations done.

  • creolechild

    Hmmm…not too sick with a “concussion” to review it but can’t testify..hmmm.

    Clinton Reviewing Independent Report On Benghazi Attack

    The Independent Advisory Review Board has presented a completed report on the attack upon a U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Monday, Politico reports: The Independent Advisory Review Board completed its report and presented it to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton this morning, department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said.

    “She now has it,” Nuland said during her daily press briefing. The report is divided into a classified and unclassified section, according to Nuland. Nuland said that reporters and the public would probably get access to unclassified portions of the report sometime this week.[....]

    Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/clinton-reviewing-independent-report-on-benghazi-attack

    H/T Igor Bobic

    • isonprize

      creolechild – you. me. >< eye to eye, baby, EYE TO EYE!!

      I don't trust her. NEVER have… Yes, if, if, IF she runs, I'd vote for her, because she'd be better than any RE-thug. But no, no, no, NO, I simply do not trust her.

      • Camille

        I despise her.

        • rikyrah

          Come sit by me

    • morphus

      There’s little doubt that Benghazi “interest” during the campaign was to erode PBO’s national security credentials. However, once the dialog started the Repugs quickly lost control of the narrative as demonstrated from blowback carnage of the alleged “October surprise” which took out Saint Petraeus. I’ve always believed that the Rice-Benghazi circus redirection initially protected two maybe three people: Romney and Issa for sure and maybe Petraeus. There are still unanswered questions about timing of Romney’s statements on attack prior to him receiving access to intelligence briefings. Darrell Issa outed the CIA on C-SPAN during his hearing on Libya Embassy attacks. After Issa’s outing of the CIA meant there were unanswered questions for Petraeus. In that a State department official was present at Issa’s hearing one wonders how this “Independent Report” will change the Benghazi narrative.

      • creolechild

        Thank you for threading this particular needle, morphus. I agree with you that the initial witchhunt spun out of control and was designed to give specific individuals cover. When that didn’t happen they went after Susan Rice. Of course, she will be the scapegoat because Hillary certainly isn’t going to put herself in the line of fire over the agency which she heads.

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥ – — WHEW LAWD! – – -Just got a cll from my bank. My debit card was compromised. NOW -hafta change all payments . Arrrg. :>)

    I’ll B on annnd off 2 do this. Sorry. :>)

    • isonprize

      GLH, ask them how it was compromised. And is there anything you can do to prevent it in the future?

      If you are so inclined to share, I’d be curious to know the answer.

      • GreenLadyHere

        isonprize. — -They stated that it could have been during a “swipe”. – – -I try NOT 2 do much swiping – -BUT – — –

        FORTUNATELY – –the FRAUD DIVISION does check –A FREE SERVICE. – -:>)
        They have called B4, BUT I could verify all the ACTIVITY.

        THIS time — -I did not make 2 of them.

        The bank said that there was frausulent activity on other cards also.
        I have 2o call the FRAUD DIV. 2-morrow. They will give the CREDIT 4 the charges made.

        No suggestions as to how 2 prevent. Thought I must say that THIS has NEVER happened B4. THANK GOODNESS. :>)

        THANK U –isonprize. [PA RAWKS. :>)]

        • crazycanuck

          My card was compromised once, and I was told that gas stations are the easiest place for that to happened.

          • GreenLadyHere

            HEEY crazycanuck. ***BIG HUG** :>)

            BINGO. – — This week I went INTO the gas station. Most of the time – -I use my card st the PUMP. :>)

            THANK U. :>) – -Good 2 C U. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – – -HAH! — -ONLY 6??? – — –

    – –Six Extreme Policies That Prove The NRA Is Out Of Step With America – –

    — – -The massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary has galvanized the American public to start taking the 48,000 deaths from gun violence per year seriously. Fifty four percent of Americans, according to a new ABC/Washington Post poll, favor tighter gun control — a five year high. A Huffington/YouGov poll came to similar conclusions.

    Yet the National Rifle Association (NRA) will likely stand in the way, given its long history of blocking even the most minimal restrictions on gun owners. Here are six times when the NRA has been on the wrong side of what should be uncontroversial gun rules:

    1. Wanted people on the terrorist watch list to be legally able to acquire guns. Inasmuch as it makes sense to have a secret “terrorism watch list,” one would think a primary reason would be to prevent people who might commit terrorism from accessing the weapons that one uses to do so. Yet people on the watch list are still allowed to by guns: in 2010 alone, at least 247 people suspected of involvement with terrorism bought guns legally. While 71 percent of NRA membesr support closing the so-called “terror gap,” the NRA claims efforts to close the loophole are plots by “politicians who hate the Second Amendment.”

    2. Opposed required background checks on every gun sale. Forty percent of all gun sales legally take place without background checks on the purchaser, because federal law doesn’t require them for so-called “private” gun sales at places like gun shows. – -SNIP – —

    3. Lobbied to allow warlords to get arms on the international market. The U.N. Arms Trade Treaty is a small step towards the regulation of the massive international weapons trade, aimed at keeping guns out of the hands of murderous insurgents and terrorists. It contains zero restrictions on domestic gun markets. Yet the NRA has vigorously opposed the ATT, calling it an “attack on our Second Amendment freedoms” by “global gun grabbers.”
    THERE IS MORE – –DAMAGING STUFF! – – — -HAH!

    THEY have been SILENT – -BUT their POLICIES – –SPEAK – – -LOUDLY!! — — THESE —COMPLICIT MURDERS!!

    – –CONDOLENCES 2 ALL FAMILIES! —***tears** – – –

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥ – – -Some GOOD NEWS – – –

    – — -Innocent man free after year – –

    – – -In another black eye for the Brooklyn District Attorney’s Office, a judge dismissed all charges against a 65-year-old man who had spent more than a year in jail.

    The stunning turnaround came less than two weeks after the man’s defense attorney alleged prosecutorial misconduct including witness and evidence manipulation, as The Post first reported.

    Ronald Bozeman was arrested for a $9,000 armed robbery near Atlantic Terminal last year and indicted after the two victims testified that he was the gunman, court records show.

    But later, the two victims told a second grand jury that a second man, George Johnson, was actually the gunman — and prosecutors moved forward with the case despite the conflicting testimony, said defense attorney Mark Bederow.
    THERE Is MORE.

    —- — – Soooo- -HAPPY 4 him –NOW. – – -Annnd I betcha that he gon BANK some – – -WRONGFUL INCARCERATION – –$$$$$. — -BLESS HIM. :>)

    2 da – –PROSECUTORS!! – – – -KARMA – –IS – – a MUTHA!!—-TRUST!!

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥ – —- – -A BLACK HISTORY-IN-THE-MAKING MOMENT – –

    — –Meet the Youngest African-American Engineer in America – –

    – — -Brittney Exline is special, very special. She’s the Michael Jordan of intellectuals, and getting the attention that she deserves. Brittney has been named, according to Ebony.com and other sources, to be the young black engineer in the entire United States. At 19 years old, the University of Pennsylvania grad has achieved more than most will achieve in their lifetime.

    In addition to being an extraordinary engineer, Brittney also speaks five languages. She graduated with minors in five different fields, including Math, Psychology and Classical Studies. She has worked on Wall Street and also participated in numerous beauty pageants.

    As a college professor who’s seen a few young people with this kind of ability, there are a few things you should know. Children like Brittney are not created by accident. They are products of great parenting and tremendous guidance by the people who care enough to make the necessary investment. Brittney’s parents, Chyrese and Christopher Exline, deserve as much credit as Brittney herself, because they shaped her reality to be one where their daughter was firmly convinced that anything is possible if you simply put your mind to it.
    THERE IS MORE —- – WOW&1/2!!! :>)

    – – —To Be Young Gifted And Black [Nina Simone]

    – — -Sooo PROUD of U – -Ms. BRITTNEY EXLINE – -:>) – – –

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥ – – – -Mr. Harry -Reid – –HE CRAZY. LOL – – —

    – – -Reid: lawmakers likely to return after Christmas to work on “fiscal cliff” – –

    – – –Members of the U.S. Congress will likely have to return to work right after Christmas to complete work on the “fiscal cliff,” Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid told colleagues on Monday.

    In opening the Senate after a weekend break, Reid said: “We will see if anything changes, but it appears that we’re going to be coming back the day after Christmas to complete work on the fiscal cliff.” Top Democratic and Republican aides said earlier in the day that negotiators appear nearing a deficit-reduction deal, but that a vote on it likely will not occur until at least next week. They face a New Year’s Eve deadline.

    – — – -***shakin’ my head*** LOL – – –

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥ – – – -***tears*** annnd –***smiles*** — –@ THESE PICS – —

    – – -‘Mom would be so proud to see the President holding her granddaughter': Family of heroic principal tweets picture of family meeting Obama – –

    – – —Watching Barack Obama hug her young daughter, Cristina Hassinger should have felt elated.

    But the moment was tinged with sadness as the only reason the youngster was in the arms of the president of the U.S. was because her heroic grandmother had been shot dead two days early.

    Dawn Hochsprung was the principal of Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut and was gunned down trying to stop Adam Lanzer from entering the building.

    – -Comfort: In the hours leading up to an interfaith memorial ceremony in Newtown on Sunday night, Mr Obama met the families of victims and held Mrs Hochsprung’s granddaughter
    THERE IS MORE.

    -– -BLESS THIS CHILD: – -GRANDMOTHER – — -MR. PRESIDENT – -AMEN. - – -

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥ – — –Sooo – –somebody’s talkin’ – —“PWW” -[Protfilin' While White!] – –NOVEL! – -LOL – —

    – –Should We Be Profiling White Guys? – —

    – – -David Sirota went on MSNBC yesterday and pointed out that no one really wants to profile American mass murderers, because most of them are white men—the only group that “our political system avoids demographically profiling or analytically aggregating in any real way,” because white males hold a privileged position in our society. His comments enraged the conservative media; he was accused of “injecting divisive racial politics” into the discussion about the tragedy in Newtown. But that furor just proves how desperate the conservative movement is “to preserve its White Victimization Mythology,” writes Sirota on Salon.

    “In this mythology, the white man as a single demographic subgroup can never be seen as a perpetrator and must always be portrayed as the unfairly persecuted scapegoat,” Sirota writes. “In this mythology, to mention truths about societal double standards—truths that are inconvenient or embarrassing to white people—is to be targeted for attack by the right-wing media machine.” – — — SNIP – — Sirota’s full column.

    — —-The DATA R CLEAR: — Posted B4: —85% of SCHOOL SHOOTERS R WHITE MALES. – –[No indictment; FACTS] — –

    Found another article by Mr. Tim Wise.- –Will post L8R. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    - – -Dear POU FAM♥ – -G’NIGHT. :>) — Annd MAY U HAVE BLESSED SWEET DREAMS – -♥ -♥ :>) – -

    – – – – –CONTINUE 2 PRAY 4: – — -MR. PRESIDENT annnd ALL the ISSUES that he is DEALING WITH –including – -the SERVING FAMILIES as a COMPASSIONATE LEADER. :>); — – -the NEWTOWN FAMILIES –AMEN; – – -the STORM VICTIMS; – – – -the ECONOMY/da PEOPLE; —EACH OTHER.♥- –

    – – – -UNTIL THE MORNING LIGHT♥ -