September 22, 2014

Monday Evening Thread: End Of The Road

Well, this song is surely appropriate! LOL, we are ending 2012 and its the end of the road!

Fiscal cliff, HERE WE COME!

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  • rikyrah

    Oh well….here comes the cliff

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      WEEEEEEE!

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    MSNBC reporting that Sec. Clinton had a blood clot between her brain and skull.

    • rikyrah

      MSNBC reporting that Sec. Clinton had a blood clot between her brain and skull

      frightening..frightening..frightening..

    • MsKitty

      Have seen this movie before way too many times in my family, most times without the positive outcome. Good that they found the clot in time.

    • GN

      Luckily they caught that before it did damage. Sounds like she’ll be fine.

    • GreenLadyHere

      Sepia – – – -Thank U 4 THIS. – – -It did not result in a stroke, or neurological damage. To help dissolve this clot, her medical team began treating the Secretary with blood thinners. She will be released once the medication dose has been established. – –

      YET – -I know that she is bein’ WATCHED — -EVER-SO-CAREFULLY. – -<a href="“>Sinuses have veins which R a part of the circulatory system. – – CONCERNS R STILL in order.

      BLESS her. :>) – -AMEN. :>)

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Notice that it’s Rethugs releasing all of the info on the fiscal cliff negotiations? They’re trying their best to manipulate the media and spin so they won’t get blamed. You’d think EmoProgs would figure that out by now.

    “As Washington stared down a midnight deadline for action, a Republican aide said that the two sides had agreed on extending current tax rates for family incomes below $450,000; taxing capital gains and dividends at 20% for incomes above $450,000 versus the current 15%; and raising the estate tax to 40% on inheritances of more than $5 million, among other measures agreed to.

    Without a fiscal-cliff agreement, the top rate on dividends would jump to 43.4% and the maximum rate on capital gains would rise to 23.8%. Meanwhile, the estate tax would jump to a top rate of 55% on estates worth more than $1 million from a top rate of 35% now.”

    MORE: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/progress-cited-as-fiscal-cliff-deadline-nears-2012-12-31

    • aleth

      Sepia the left is as dumb as the right.. They form a circle of stupid.

  • zizi2

    4 years into Pres. Obama’s presidency we have had far too many unfortunate occasions to see the vile bankruptcy of the noisemaking Emotional/Professional Left play out over and over again. But nowhere has this kneejerk tendency to second-guess or downright racist thrash the President been taken to more absurd levels than this year-end macabre spectacle we’re seeing unfold vis-avis the fiscal cliff.

    Yeah yeah I know, Dailykos always sucks. But today it was an orchestra of Left blowhards from the entire left media — print, online and blogsites, that sank to their ready racist playbook of hurling personal insults at the competence & humanity of this President.

    It is so predictable it makes me literally sick. But today it cut me even more especially when you realize that this President has gone this entire year without a vacation just so he’d fight indefatigably for the thankless job of leading this country. And fight he did with so much heart and administrative brilliance that left these same left blowhards speechless.

    To see Dailykos go from diary upon diary waxing poetic about Obama’s unbelievable win and the superlative skills of his campaign crew, and on and on and on to the vitriol today is whiplash-inducing. Just last week they finally came around to seeing the strategic brilliance of Pres. Obama’s 2011 debt ceiling negotiations. Kos himself keeps churning out article after article about one mind-blowing angle of the elections and campaign after the other.

    But today, there could be no more bumbling idiot, traitor to the American Middle Class/poor than this same President. From Jonathan Chait to Ezra Kelin to Jed Lewison, Slinkerwink, BrooklynBadBoy, PM Carpenter, Kevin Drum et al. How could both statements be true? Of course not. What we are seeing once again is the fundamental bigotry of the Professional Left to ever see this President as anything other than their janitor and at worse, tehir slave. yes I used that label because that is the perfect description of their downright disrespect for him.

    They never demean Clinton who actually BETRAYED their very core policies, in the same way. Naw… he’s a hero, but Barack Hussein Obama? He’s at best a bumbling fool who’s hellbent on delivering the head of America’s 99% to his Wall Street cronies. And at worst he’s supposed to be an evil traitor and insulted in the most racist terms.

    You know, if I were President Obama, I’d quit, take my family very far away from this godforsaken country. But I’m not him. He’s a bigger person than I am. His sense of mission is nobler than I will ever summon. So all I can do is defend him anyway anyhow, and wherever. I have been deleting followers like flies from my Twitter Timeline. I can’t stand it

    • MsKitty

      I haven’t been back on twitter in at least 2 weeks and have no urge to go back anytime soon (if at all). The Newtown shootings is all Obama’s fault meme was the final straw for me. We haven’t needed these idiots to move forward thus far and the election outcome has shown how truly irrelevant they are. Ain’t nothing they can say or write that will upset me because they are wrong every.single.time.

      • GN

        Exactly! They didn’t make him, so how can they break him. I thought the elections would have made that clear.

        • aleth

          Yes GN…that’s what I love about it..said the same thing on Tpm. The left deluded themselves to self importance. Everything is a meme with no logic… Just wait till debt ceiling. That is why a grand bargain would have great. GOP house has nothing to loose. Left does not get that, don’t worry by 2016 they will get that and write the belated article on how Obama did not cave..

          Idiots that never learn.

    • GN

      Extremely well said. The only person on that list that I’m disappointed with is PM Carpenter. The rest of them…lol, self-censored.

      • aleth

        It’s funny to read pm carpenter…everyone is an expect in negotiating. Not impressed. Here you go with 2014 election set up similar to 2010.

      • conlakappa

        To whom was I saying recently that Lewison was no different from the rest of them? He can whiteman it with the best and rest of them. They are so clearly all singing from the same choir book. Credo Action is now in my bad books and have been told. If any of them had the grace to say after “um, oops, I was wrong,” even if it were for the eleventy billionth time of being wrong, I would give the action the iota of respect it would deserve. But they don’t. They double-down on the stupid. They double-down on the outrage. They double-down on acting as if the President is a clueless innocent who is less intelligent and less savvy than they are. Enough already.

    • Rhoda

      You know what it is: his strength and the strength of his family. He doesn’t care about them. He doesn’t need them. He didn’t kiss any rings to get where he is; he built that with his team. When DailyKos and progressive blogosphere supported Edwards; team Obama built MyBarackObama.com. His strength is from his family; they are who validate him. But despite the strength it took to get where he is; without the party behind him. They continually call him weak.

      Meanwhile, the country sees a calm, sensible, strong man. And they wonder at these fools that are constantly calling him weak.

      • conlakappa

        His family and his friends who have known him for years. It is why he played golf with his ho-soliciting friend. It is why he doesn’t care to go to salons held by Sally Quinn or to teas hosted by Beth Dzoretz. Gosh, he is actually in D.C. to… work.

      • jds09

        Good comment. Why don’t you think the party is behind him? I think rank and file democrats have supported him.

        • conlakappa

          He didn’t wait his turn. He is uppity and an upstart. And they share the same “just us” attitude as the folks from the other side of the aisle. Early in 2008, I was talking to a business contact who was convinced that Sen. Obama wouldn’t win because of what he heard at a cocktail party of high-ranking D congressional staff. He was a white guy who said he and his wife were repulsed and left the party quickly after and that “the nigger” was said a lot and with loathing and mocking.

          • jds09

            Are you making a distinction between “party” and “democrat”?

          • conlakappa

            Rank and file haven’t really mattered in a while until this President’s elections. That is where the problems come in.

    • rikyrah

      thank you zizi.

    • gc

      Wink is so filled with self loathing, she NEEDS black people to patronize. I remember those other names. But they are getting what they crave: attention. I was just listening to Lady Gaga. It’s one big “Disco Stick” to them.

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      What did PM Carpenter say?

    • rikyrah

      They never demean Clinton who actually BETRAYED their very core policies, in the same way. Naw… he’s a hero,

      tell me about it.

      President Obama spent most of his first term cleaning up Bill Clinton’s messes

      • Admiral_Komack

        WORD.

    • GreenLadyHere

      hEEY zizi2 – –***BIG —HAPPY NEW YEAR’s EVE/KWANZAA – –HUG*** – —

      – – -THIS – –>To see Dailykos go from diary upon diary waxing poetic about Obama’s unbelievable win and the superlative skills of his campaign crew, and on and on and on to the vitriol today is whiplash-inducing. Just last week they finally came around to seeing the strategic brilliance of Pres. Obama’s 2011 debt ceiling negotiations. – —

      – – –Perhaps HE/THEY—FELL off their — – “EGO CLIFF!!”—‘CAUSE IMHO —-anybody who FAILS 2 C – –orrr ACKNOWLEDGE–is either a HATA – — or BEYOND EGO-ICENTRIC —–OK – –orrrrr –BOTH!! —

      MR. PRESIDENT just’ di-ent ACQUIRE—his STRATEGIC SKILZ — –

      HE BUSTED IN DA DOOR with THEM!! —-

      EVIDENCE – – —President Obama Signs the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act: January 29, 2009President Obama Signs the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act: January 29, 2009 – – –

      ——CHECK the DATE!! – — HAH – – –

      THAT RESULTED in – – –THIS: — – According to CNN’s exit polls, 55 percent of women voted for Obama, while only 44 percent voted for Mitt Romney. Men preferred Romney by a margin of 52 to 45 percent, and women made up about 54 percent of the electorate. In total, the gender gap on Tuesday added up to 18 percent — a significantly wider margin than the 12-point gender gap in the 2008 election.

      – – – – -Sooo – – -2 da – – –“SLOW JOINERS”:

      — -HAVE a SEAT” – – -annnd —HAVE SOME! – –SALUD!! – -:>)

      — -Good 2 C U zizi2 :>) – – –

    • isonprize

      You know, if I were President Obama, I’d quit, take my family very far away from this godforsaken country. But I’m not him. He’s a bigger person than I am. His sense of mission is nobler than I will ever summon. So all I can do is defend him anyway anyhow, and wherever.

      I’ve always said that if I was ever afforded the chance to ask PBO one question, it would be “Why the hell did you want this job?” It is truly thankless. For real.

    • Admiral_Komack

      Fuck Dailykos.
      I checked it out, but was never into it.

  • rikyrah

    And…We’re Airborne

    by BooMan
    Mon Dec 31st, 2012 at 04:07:06 PM EST

    John Boehner has parties to go to, my friends. This is New Year’s Eve, his most holy holiday. Eric Cantor just announced that the House isn’t waiting around to see whether or not the Senate can hash out a deal. They’re going to start drinking as soon as it gets dark outside. I suggest that you do the same. We’re going over the cliff. And we were SOOOO close to a deal.

    http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/12/31/1676/9670

  • MsKitty

    Growing up poor has it’s advantages. While I like the finer things in life, I can make a dollar out of 15 cents when I need to. I’m sitting back and watching the spectacle.

    On the other hand it’s really rank that Congress is willing to let millions of folks slip through the safety net, and make the skies less safe (adios air traffic controllers) among other things, just to show up the Black man. May Karma show them her worst.

    • GN

      Indeed; trifling doesn’t even begin to describe the Republicans. This is ridiculous.

    • nellcote

      I’m kinda pissed off that congress is getting a raise!

      • MsKitty

        Shows up to the office 3-4 days a month, don’t do any actual work when they’re in the office, deadlines are just mere suggestions. That is a sweet hustle they got going. They would probably tell us all don’t hate the player, hate the game.

        • Admiral_Komack

          Don’t forget their pissing and moaning.

      • Town

        I kind of see Obama’s proposed Congressional pay raise as a trap:

        They hem and haw on everything else but betcha they’ll be quick to vote themselves a raise.

        So when they vote themselves (quickly) a raise, then Obama can say “Oh but they were quick to vote themselves a raise but slow to vote on giving YOU, the American People, a raise.”

        • Admiral_Komack

          Word.

      • nellcote

        I think it’s the only way PBO could get a pay raise for federal employees who haven’t gotten a pay raise since 09.

    • Aquagranny911

      I’m way older than you when I could make even 2 pesos equal a dollar, lol. I do know what you mean though, “growing up poor” does teach you some valuable coping skills.

      We WILL survive both stronger & better. I believe that & I trust PBO. He will protect those most vulnerable & in need so I will also sit “back and watch the spectacle” of GOP’s last gasp as them sting themselves to death like a wounded scorpion.

    • isonprize

      I can make a dollar out of 15 cents when I need to.

      What??? Girl, same here. Especially since my sweet Momma was a child of the depression. She ‘recycled’ WAY before it was fashionable to do.

      Recycled: Christmas wrapping paper, aluminum foil, ice cubes (if she finished a drink and still had ice in her cup, she would put her glass in the freezer until next time!), the wax paper out of the cereal boxes… I could keep going.

  • rikyrah

    Clinton’s Clot

    A reader writes:

    I am a practicing general/trauma surgeon here in Cleveland. Hillary Clinton’s blood clot (or “deep venous thrombosis”) is almost certainly related to her recent closed head injury. Trauma patients, particularly those with significant head or spinal trauma, are considered high risk for the development of these clots. The fact that Mrs Clinton developed a clot a few years ago additionally raises her risk portfolio. We see this all the time in medical/trauma practice. Head injuries alter the coagulation parameters of the body in unpredictable, potentially deleterious ways. As a result of this, I would expect her to require anticoagulation therapy for the rest of her life.

    The Althouse response is hysterical on so many levels. The part where she writes – ” Was it her brain (recently concussed)? Was it her leg (where she had a blood clot back in 1998)? The former is a big deal, the latter, not so much. Why not specify the site, since it make such a big difference, medically? ” – is about as ignorant as it gets. A blood clot in the leg is extraordinarily dangerous. Those clots have a propensity for breaking off and traveling to the main arteries supplying the lungs where you can, you know, die instantly.

    http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/

    • GN

      I’m glad someone wrote in. Last year, I spent some time on a heavy traveling rotation for work, i.e., frequent and long flights. One of my coworkers developed clots and while that shit was scary as hell (some of us were in tears worried about her), leave it to some pundits to take the H. Clinton bloodclot story into hysteria and conspiracy land. Hope she gets well soon; I’ll likely favor an opponent during the 2016 primaries, but I wish her the best of health, and have no doubt but that she’ll recover just fine with the finest treatment which she is receiving.

    • Rhoda

      Either way, this is serious health issue that would make me question whether she could be President IMO. You have to have great health and strength and stamina.

      • Town

        Joe Biden has had aneurysms. Whatever treatment he’s had is working since there hasn’t been an occurrence in about 20 years.

  • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

    Ezra Klein :

    “The GOP’s congressional leaders want to tell their members that if they just vote for this modest tax increase now, then they can move onto the debt ceiling, where their enhanced leverage will let them force a deal that’s all spending cuts. Obama, in effect, said that’s not true. He said if Republicans raise taxes now, he’s going to pocket that tax increase and demand tax increases in the next deal, too.”

    :http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/31/heres-what-republicans-really-hated-about-obamas-news-conference/?Post+generic=%3Ftid%3Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost

    That’s what we’ve been saying for months. Boehner and the GOP get the blame and the President gets a 4.6 trillion dollar revenue stream using as much as of it as permitted to turbo charge this economy. He can’t lose.

    • jds09

      They simply don’t get how most Americans what to jam up…errr…get the rich to pay their fair share. We’ve been waiting 20 years for this to go down.

      • conlakappa

        Ha! One will never go poor underestimating Orange and his crew.

  • Rhoda

    POU, I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas, Happy Chaunnakah, Happy Kwanzaa, and a Happy New Year.

    POTUS is doing the damn thing and of course the emoprogressives have to bitch and moan; it’s clear as crystal that POTUS is winning and Republicans and REAL Democrats and Independents know it if the emo-professional left doesn’t understand, well it’s why they’re losers. I have to say, at least the tea baggers aren’t stupid. They may be crazy, but they got enough sense to hold their teammates up high and stand by them. When the fight’s over; they’ll kick a Mitt Romney in the teeth but until then they stand by their team mates.

  • rikyrah

    House GOP plans to wait — until after deadlines pass
    By Steve Benen
    Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:00 PM EST

    For all the scuttlebutt about a Senate agreement this afternoon, negotiators had not — and have not — resolved major issues such as the automatic spending cuts in sequestration, suggesting much of the relief was wildly premature. There’s still a very real chance the ongoing negotiations will simply fail.

    But there was another lingering question for which there was no answer: even if the Senate crafted a deal, could it pass the House? It appears we won’t find out until after the clock runs out.

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/12/31/16271586-house-gop-plans-to-wait-until-after-deadlines-pass?lite

    • jds09

      Benen does call bullshit when he sees it. His first paragraph cuts right to it. lol

      Happy New Year POU Fam!

      • nellcote

        I’ll always be grateful for Benen’s (41!) weekly roundups of Rmoney’s campaign lies.

  • GOVCHRIS1988

    Keep Rep. John Lewis in your prayers tonight.

    http://thegrio.com/2012/12/31/mrs-lillian-miles-lewis-wife-of-u-s-representative-john-lewis-dies-in-atlanta/

    Mrs. Lillian Miles Lewis, wife of U.S. Representative John Lewis, dies in Atlanta
    by Alexis Garrett Stodghill | December 31, 2012 at 5:44 PM

    NBC News has confirmed that Mrs. Lillian Miles Lewis, wife of U.S. Representative John Lewis, died on Monday. A release from the representative’s office states that she passed away in Atlanta, Georgia. The couple married 44 years ago after meeting at a New Year’s Eve party in 1967, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports.

  • Aquagranny911

    “The leap of faith”…..Maybe I should be disturbed but I really have no problems with this at all….

    I trust my President & my family is prepared to deal with a brief rise in our taxes. Fortunately most are back to work now & one or two still on unemployment will be helped by the family until this gets sorted out.

    The Repugnant goatfiggers are pure D fools to let this happen. We do not forget!

  • Kennymack1971

    So we’re going over the cliff because the President hurt the GOP’s fee fees. The GOP is softer than baby food.

    • nellcote

      With all the shit they say about PBO, this constant “he hurt our feelings so we’re gonna be assholes” is really getting old.

      • conlakappa

        A ball that was all ready set in play yesterday with the panel of “he isn’t warm and fuzzy.” Good to see the talking points are getting to the MSM in a timely fashion. Whoever it is who is still allowed to tweet Gregory, please do give him a bravo for me!

  • aleth

    I continuously love the exposure of white progressives to all POC..it is good to see. And can I say fuck me all

    • gc

      They are not true Progressives. The genuine article is in the trenches, working to make ends meet, doing volunteer work and their egos are not on speakerphone, but exhausted from living. I loathe the people you refer to, why I ended up here. Than you POU.

      • aleth

        I hear you but the ironic part are tese people complain the President does not use an alleged bully pulpit. Today he speaks and according to these so called progressives he was jerky. You know he did not speak to make them GOP happy

        It reminds me of what zizi wrote below..there is something weird that the GOP and majority white progressive males are so disrespectfully and unsettled by the black man making the negotiations. He has earned the right to do what other presidents do.

        He has been the most progressive president in more than a generation. It’s just good to see

        • gc

          It’s not just “weird” it’s neurotic as hell. From Cecil B Demille on, so damned threatened. Work on your problems with a therapist, and leave this President alone to do a better job than any of you can!
          None of what they say makes sense, cause IMO, it’s coming from a very fucked up place. The guys in my life are staunch supporters, and secure within themselves. There has got to be a connection!

    • conlakappa

      Them and the media that created them/gives them oxygen. I risk injury with the side-eye I am giving so-called national papers the past two days. First, the WashPost completely ignores the re-elected President in its best and worst years in Washington in 2012 yet unironically cited his defeated opponent as having a worst. I guess there isn’t a corollary… then the NY Times’s Cathy Horyn (too easy a shot) writes:

      Michelle Obama has used celebrity and style to redefine the role of first lady. Now, with four more years in the White House, can she step off the glamour pedestal and broaden the reach of her powerful voice?
      This was in SundayStyles. Excuse me? Has this ass-clown paid no attention

      • aleth

        The need to define how they should breathe, live, love, express their opinion in order to justify the preconceived notion of who they are is amazing. Karma will come

        • conlakappa

          Yep, like two grown people didn’t know how to comport themselves until they had exposure to a national stage.

      • Miranda

        Is ths silly bish on twitter? Her ass needs to be lit up.

      • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

        Cathy Horyn, like a lot of white women, can’t stand that a Black woman has knocked them off of that “glamour pedestal”.

      • Aquagranny911

        “Excuse me” too…military families…all her & Jill Biden’s dedication to helping and supporting our military families who also sacrifice so much…

        Fuck this BS! Sorry for the swear.

      • isonprize

        uh, JOINING FORCES? She didn’t think (and I use that term loosely) Joining Forces was worthy of mention?

  • lamh36

    Today would have been my grandmother’s 75th birthday. She died 7 years ago after Katrina. She’s buried in Thibodaux, La since at the time of her death no one was able to return to NOLA and the place where she had a plot was literally underwater.

    Anyway, my fam visited her grave in Thibodaux and placed some flowers on her grave…so bittersweet today.

    Happy New Year and RIP and Happy Birthday to my granny Beulah.

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      *HUGS*

    • Aquagranny911

      Ditto the *HUGS.* My Granny has been gone over 30 years & I still miss her so much but she is ever in my heart & sometimes I think she sits on my shoulder still giving me her vast words of wisdom because I find my own self saying & doing the things she also did.

    • rikyrah

      Prayers for you, lamh.

    • GreenLadyHere

      DEAR lamh36 – — ***BIG—CONSOLING —HUGS*** – – –

      – — -TREASURE – – -the – – -FOND MEMORIES. – -AMEN. :>) – – -

    • sagittarius

      May your Grandmother continue to rest in peace

  • GreenLadyHere

    GOOD Evening – –miranda/POU FAM♥ – -***BIG –HAPPY NEW YEARS EVE/kWANZAA — HUG***

    – –YES! — -a GR8 SONG!! – – – -:>)

    – – -Errrr – – -Did U Mention THIS — Jump Mofos! Jump!- – – – -The “FISCAL CLIFF” WILL – -MAKE YA!!! – – -Weeeeeeeeeeeee!! — -LOL

    – — -Annnnd – — was OUR BELOVED PRESIDENT – — Jus’ – – – -DA MAN? —:>) – – —

    —-
    Extra Bonus Quote of the Day
    - – — –

    – ——-“If Republicans think I will finish the job of deficit reduction through spending cuts alone…then they’ve got another thing coming.”

    — President Obama, quoted by the Wall Street Journal, suggesting there are further tax increases coming even after the fiscal cliff deal.

    – – –“I AM – – -THE PRESIDENT!!” – –HAH! – — NO GLOAT!! – — -FACT!! :>)

    Have a GOOD EVENING! – —

  • lamh36

    Happy New Year’s POU’ers

    For those of us staying in tonight, what network is everyone watching tonight?

    • rikyrah

      I don’t have a choice, lamh. whatever comes up on the tv

    • Aquagranny911

      LOL! No TV!

      We have a few neighbors stopping by to play Texas Holdem. I have my stash of nickles, dimes & quarters which I intend to keep while relieving them of theirs. No retreat, no surrender! I play for keeps!

      Have a good evening, Kiddo.

    • goldenstar

      Chicago PBS station has the Motown celebration @ the WH and another program w/ Eric Clapton celebrating the guitar. TV 1 has a bunch of Unsung.

      I’m happy channel surfing and cooking greens while I watch.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Wow, PM Carpenter. Arrogant much?

    “This site is called “p m carpenter’s commentary” for the immensely unoriginal reason that I, P.M. Carpenter, hold forth with my commentary here. I am not a hack, I am not a flack, I am not any kind of hired gun for anyone. I express my opinions as genuinely and honestly as I possibly can. And I should think all readers would far prefer honest commentary from me rather than my pandering to what I know would be the easier, more popular route of uninterrupted, pro-Obama flackdom.

    ..What’s tremendously ironic about all this is that criticisms of the Obama administration, especially at this decisive juncture, are perhaps the most valuable assets the administration could acquire. Only the deliberate absence of honest assessments of wrong paths taken, or of those under consideration, would represent a dereliction of civic or journalistic duty. And I respect the Obama administration far too much to stay quiet or to aid and abet what I regard as its potentially self-destructive paths.”

    http://pmcarpenter.blogs.com/p_m_carpenters_commentary/2012/12/a-note-of-clarification.html

    • MsKitty

      Whatevs dude, whatevs.

    • aleth

      Who touched pm? Is everything ok there? Moving on

    • GN

      Disappointing.

      • conlakappa

        Taking the path of less resistance and that which gets more attention and potential on-air work. Just like with t-shirts, pins, and general Obama-merch, “he disappointed me” is a cottage industry.

        • GN

          Indeed; and then to deflect from the idiocy of his stance, he takes swipes at PBO “flacks.” Oh well, for me, he’s now tossed on the pile with the rest of the fauxgressive egomaniacs and circlejerkers.

    • Ebogan63

      He’s been unfortunately been heading in this direction for some time now. Very dissapointing

    • Admiral_Komack

      YAWN…whatever.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – – — -GUESS dey di-ent –DO THIS — — IN ORDER 2 C da WIZARD! –LOL – —

    —-In an Act of Political Cowardice House Republicans Shove America Off the Fiscal Cliff – –

    – — – — –Cowardly House Republicans will shove America off the fiscal cliff because they are afraid of voting for tax increase on the wealthy.

    House Republicans are saying that they can’t vote tonight on any agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff because the bill will take time to get through the Senate. However, CNN is reporting the suspected real reason for the non-vote, “GOP sources admitted there is an added benefit to the Senate’s delay: taxes would already be up, so lawmakers could argue that they are voting for tax cuts, as opposed to tax increases.One GOP source also said that may help get more House Republicans to vote for the deal.”

    —In plain English, Speaker Boehner does not have the votes to pass any agreement tonight. Rank and file House Republicans are such cowards that they would rather shove America off the fiscal cliff, so that they can claim that they are voting for tax cuts instead of tax increases.

    All of this drama is because House Republicans want to pretend like they aren’t raising taxes.
    – – – -SNIP —-

    – –Once again House Republicans have manufactured a fiscal crisis, only to see it blow up in their faces. – – – — -KARMA!!! – -LOL
    THERE IS MORE. – —

  • Alma98

    I’d like to wish everyone here a happy and safe New Year!!
    I’ll be watching Poirot until midnight lol.

  • Aquagranny911

    POU Family…

    Feliz y prospero Ano Nuevo from my heart to all of you with ♥

  • Kennymack1971

    To my POU fam: Happy New Year!

    • MsKitty

      Happy New Year! And I also want to express my condolences over the Cowboys. Even as a non-fan that was a bit painful to watch.

    • GreenLadyHere

      HAPPY NEW YEAR Kennymack1971 – –***BIG HUG*** :>)
      —B BLESSED. :>)

  • rikyrah

    Obama Punks The GOP, Yet Again

    Monday, December 31, 2012 |
    Posted by Deaniac83 at 11:42 AM

    If you watched the just concluded address the president gave on the Fiscal Cliff, tell me if you agree with the feeling I got from it: the president looked, sounded and smiled like a winner. And I can probably tell you why. Hell, he was practically gloating. Plainly spoken, he and his team just punked the Republicans, yet again. They got the Republicans to release the middle class hostage, without giving them a damned thing. Look at what he’s getting:

    ………………………………………………………………………….

    So, let’s recap. I was wrong to say that Republicans got nothing in this deal. They got less than nothing. They are in the red here. They are crying uncle and releasing the middle class hostage, in exchange for having to come up with even more revenues from the rich (maybe we can now see Boehner’s plan to raise revenue from “limiting deductions” on the rich only) when they seek any spending cuts, or to avert/replace any of the sequestration cuts they don’t like.

    You want to see what a master negotiator looks like? Then look at the guy who just got a deal to release the hostage (middle class and the poor) and in exchange gave the hostage takers less than nothing.

    I don’t know if Republicans – or for that matter, hair on fire Lefties – realize how big a win this is for the president. This is a BFD. Republicans are cornered, they can’t back out, they have no escape. They got us here. They rejected all the reasonable offers the president made just to protect tax rates for the rich. And now, they can’t even do that, and they have lost all leverage to force spending cuts without even more revenue. The Republicans went in for a fight all in, and they wouldn’t take yes for an answer, so the president just took all their chips and left them holding nothing but teabags.

    http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2012/12/obama-punks-gop-yet-again.html

  • lamh36

    You know ur getting old when it’s New Year’s eve and the ball drop is 5 hours away and you are already yawning…may not make it before the countdown…lol.

    • isonprize

      That’s why, in Philadelphia, there were a BUNCH of adults, hanging with the kids at the 6pm Fireworks at the SugarHouse casino! They do it again at midnight, but 6pm was fine with me!! LOLOLOL
      You also had a great view from the ice skating rink.

    • MsKitty

      I have slept through the new year more than a few times, could go either way tonight.

  • MsKitty

    Happy New Year POU fam! Can’t wait to continue to kick ass and take names in the ’13.

  • Miranda

    Aleixis ‏@Thugy_A
    What Kim K’s & Kanye’s baby is gonna look like… pic.twitter.com/b6AMLKVQ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A_eAap0CEAAjEol.jpg:large

    • isonprize

      Miranda, that is so very unfortunate.

      • AxelFoley

        ROFL

    • GreenLadyHere

      LOL miranda – – — — ***dialin’ 911—Paramedics —-DAYSA – -POUBOT DOWN!!—Hysterical LAFFTER!! — –**** — – -Seeeeee. . .

    • Admiral_Komack

      Bet the kid will have a lot of ass (Imma let you sit down, butt…).

  • lamh36

    My final movie recommendation of the year: Looper. I saw it in the theatres and it was great. You’ll look at Bruce Willis differently after seeing it. It’s now on DVD.

  • Miranda
  • lamh36

    Democrats win key tax fights in emerging fiscal cliff deal

    Democrats win key tax fights in emerging fiscal cliff deal.
    The package being negotiated by Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell and Vice President Joe Biden amounts to a defeat for the GOP on multiple fronts. It not only raises tax rates, but also extends stimulus-era tax policy, prolongs emergency unemployment benefits, maintains targeted tax breaks derided by the party as corporate handouts and revives limits on deductions for the wealthy that have been dormant for almost a decade — all policies that the GOP has fought. It’s expected to raise $600 billion over 10 years.
    Above all, the emerging deal would shatter 20 years of Republican orthodoxy on taxes, undercutting a core part of the party identity that had been built around giving no quarter to any tax increase — ever.

    Question: so I thought the outrage was over cuts of SS/Medicare, but I don’t see those cuts. So that has been completely forgotten over the $400K bit?

  • Tafr

    Happy New Year POU! I love the holidays because SciFi always plays a Twilight Zone marathon this time of year. My favorite TZ episode is the gremlin on the plane featuring a very young William Shatner. Till this day I laugh like crazy when Shatner starts screaming like a little girl when he sees that gremlin. Stay safe everyone!

    • crazycanuck

      I really wanted to see that Zone Marathon, but I don’t get that chanel anymore :(

    • conlakappa

      That is the one that disturbs me the most and I muted during the middle bits. They tend to show the scarier ones in prime hours. Talking Tina (Living Doll) is on now. /shudders

      • Admiral_Komack

        I like the episode in which Julie Newmar is the Devil (Miss Devlin).

  • isonprize

    h/t Mary1 at TOD – Posted this Mavis Staples piece. These emo/whiney ass titty babies want it all. I got an email from the local green party with the subject line: Did we elect Romney?

    I responded with this video. No. We re-elected Pres. Barack Obama.

    Don’t these fools realized that the actions in this video occurred in many of these old bastards’ lifetimes???

    If you’ve ever wondered as to the origin of my screenname….

    Mavis Staples – Eyes on the Prize

    (Warning: it’s a hard video to watch, but watch we must. These bastards would have us back there is a heartbeat. And to quote Donna Brazile, “I AIN’T GOING BACK!” )

    • AxelFoley

      Best documentary I’ve ever watched. I saw it back when I was in middle school in the mid/late 80s.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda-ACTUALLY – – -MR PRESIDENT told us errything we NEEDED 2 KNOW – —BUT – – –:>)

    – – -Everything You Need To Know About The Emerging ‘Fiscal Cliff’ Compromise – –

    — – –Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and Vice President Joe Biden have reportedly reached an agreement that would solve the tax side of the debate over the so-called “fiscal cliff,” the package of tax increases and spending cuts that will begin automatically at midnight tonight.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and the Democratic caucus have not yet indicated support for the compromise, which extends most of the Bush tax cuts and other tax provisions, and while the Senate may vote tonight, no vote is expected in the House before tonight’s deadline. Here is a breakdown of the different provisions of the reported compromise:

    Bush tax cuts: The deal would extend all of the Bush tax cuts for incomes below $400,000 for individuals and $450,000 for families, while reinstating the Clinton-era 39.6 percent tax rate for income above those thresholds. It will also push the capital gains rate on investment income back to 20 percent for income above $400,000 for individuals and $450,000 for families. President Obama had asked for an extension of rates only for incomes below $250,000.
    – – -SNIP- —

    Update

    – -The New York Times reports a tentative deal has been struck: “Senate Republicans said negotiators also agreed to put off $110 billion in across-the-board cuts to military and domestic programs for two months while broader deficit reduction talks continue.” Also the $5 million estate tax exemption will be indexed to inflation.
    Update

    Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have singed off on the deal.
    THERE IS MORE.

    Annnnd – —OF COURSE — -MR. PRESIDENT KNEW HOW VP Joe could B used. – —STRATEGY!! :>)

    • gc

      He also told us not to worry, that he “has it” I don’t.

      Hard to be underground with this going on, GLH :)

      What do you mean about Joe?

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY Gc. :>) I’m Not at all sure iff MR. PRESIDENT knew that – – -Mc”Turtleman” – –would ask VP Joe 2 – – -“RESCUE HIM.

        BUT once that decision was made 2 send him —UP DA “HILL”- – I’m convinced that HE sent him in with the- – – RIGHTEOUS PLAYS. :>) – – –

        —–CAIN’T WAIT–til – – -THE END! :>) – –

  • sagittarius

    Before it gets tooooo late:

    Happy New Year, POU Fam!

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ carolinagirl

    Happy New Year POU family. I’ve been incognegro lately, but I love my online family and wish the best for all of you in 2013.

    • GreenLadyHere

      HEEEEEEEY carolinagirl♥!! – – – -***runnin’ 2 give U a BIG – -HAPPY NEW YEAR – — HUG!!!***

      — —Soooo – —HAPPY 2 C U. :>)——B BLESSED – -U/FAM :>)—

    • TyrenM

      Happy New Year to my cyber drinking buddy!

  • edp4bho

    Happy healthy blessed New year, POU. Can’t stay up to lurk any longer :-D

  • crazycanuck

    oh lmao, so I have couple of friends over, we bought some wine so I’m getting ready, I assume the wine was screw top, so I’m trying to twist it off, nothing, it won’t budge.

    Hmm I thought, it’s probably has a cork, so I whip out my ckscrew, push it in, nothing, had to pull hard to get it out. I’m totally confused now lol. I try twisting it off again, nothing. Hmm I’m perplexed, the top is now all broken, i pull some of it back I notice I’m seeing the top of bottle. I try again to twist ofF. FINALLY I am able to twist the dam thing off.

    Everyone is cracking up. Oh well at least I got the dam thing open.

  • crazycanuck

    Funny

    RT @thexdexperience I don’t like Christmas Carolers. 12 White people in robes in front of my house, chanting? I know how this ends.

    • Admiral_Komack

      If they are holding sheet music: GOOD.
      If they are holding ropes: BAD.

      • GreenLadyHere

        LOL– IFFF THEY – –WEARIN’ – — SHEETS-—-

        – – -GIT STRAPPED!! – – -LOL

        HEEY Admiral – –***BIG – –HAPPY NEW YEAR –HUG!!*** :>)

    • AxelFoley

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • GreenLadyHere

    BREAKING: – -VP Joe just emerged from a meeting. – –Sounding very UPBEAT!!-
    MR. PRESIDENT is gonna get HIS RATE.[39.6%]. Woo! Hoo! —

    MR. PRESIDENT Is PROTECTING the – MIDDLE CLASS!! – –

    ——YES – – -VP Joe – –IT IS a – –“BFD”- – -LOL

  • dannie22

    HAPPY NEW YEAR MY POU FAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • lamh36

    I’m still awake. Looks like I will make it to midnight, thanks in no small part Kathy Griffin and Anderson Cooper on CNN’s NYE broadcast.

    I love the way Kathy Griffin says crazy thing and Anderson Cooper pretends that he’s so uncomfortable. I find Cooper a bit of a phoney but when he’s with Griffin, I find him tolerable.

  • Admiral_Komack

    HAPPY NEW YEAR everyone!

  • Lisa M

    Happy New Year, POU fam!! May it be a most blessed and prosperous New Year for you all!!

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – – – -***sigh*** — –THEN there R the RE-THUCKERS OF TEXAS: — -Continuin’ – – -“Da WAR on WOMEN” - –

    — –Texas Will End Funding For Planned Parenthood Clinics Tomorrow”> — geesh!! – —

    – – –For most of 2012, Texas officials have been working hard to strip funding from the Planned Parenthood clinics in their state. Those officials advanced their anti-choice agenda on Monday, when a visiting judge ruled that Texas may deny funding from Planned Parenthood affiliates in the new year simply because the organization advocates for abortion rights.

    Planned Parenthood has been embroiled in a complicated legal battle with the state of Texas as Republican officials attempt to exclude the organization from the state’s Women’s Health Program, which uses federal and state money to fund preventive care for low-income women. The organization sued to block Texas from discriminating against abortion providers, but Visiting Judge Gary Harger ruled that Texas may design a state-run Women’s Health Program that excludes qualified providers like Planned Parenthood — despite the fact that, on a federal level, states aren’t allowed to block qualified health providers from receiving Medicaid funds.

    The new Women’s Health Program launches on Tuesday, and Monday’s ruling ensures that Planned Parenthood won’t be part of it. Before Texas Republicans began their crusade against Planned Parenthood, the organization provided preventative cancer screenings, contraceptive services, and family planning assistance to nearly half of the state’s 130,000 low-income women in the Medicaid program.
    THERE IS MORE. – —

  • Lisa M

    That’s what I’ve been watching. Kathy is Cray Cray!!

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Happy New Year To My POU Fam! :-D

  • GreenLadyHere
  • GreenLadyHere

    —-HAPPY NEW YEAR – 2013 – –POU FM♥ MODERATORS♥

    —- –THANK U – –4 a GR8- -WONDERFUL –2012!! – —

    – – – -SALUD! — -2013 :>) – – -

  • rikyrah

    HAPPY NEW YEAR, EVERYONE :)

  • Alma98

    Happy New Year All!!!

  • AxelFoley

    Happy New Year, fam!

  • Miranda

    Happy New Year!!!

  • GreenLadyHere

    MEDIA ALERT: – –THE SENATE IS VOTING – –NOW! -[msnbc, cnn]

    • dannie22

      HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

      • GreenLadyHere

        HAPPY NEW YEAR dannie♥—JUs’ got back! geesh!!!—I cain’t believe that someone would HAFTA come 2 town 2-night!

        He ain’t NO SANTA CLAUS!! LOL – – – -***mumble – –mumble** – — Took him 2 a friend’s house. LOL

        WHEW LAWD!! :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda — -DUH — – -Jus’ switched 2 cnn. DUH! – —Anderson cooper did NOT KNOW that he was talkin’ 2 MC HAMMER!! –wHA’??? – – —

    TRANSLATION:—THEY-ALL LOOK ALIKE!! – – -geesh!!—

    Soooo — -OUT of –cain’t TOUCH dis.!!! – – -***shakin’ my head*** :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥ — -Gotta go out annnd pick up a cousin whoha dta get in town –nOW!! – –WHA’ – – -Back as soon as. — Sorry.

  • dannie22
  • GreenLadyHere
  • TyrenM

    Happy New Year POU. I’m grateful to have found my way here this year. Watching you all chew through and cut through bullshit. I love it. Here it feels like home.Wishing us all good health in 2013.

    • GreenLadyHere

      HAPPY NEW YEAR TyrenM. ***BIG HUG*** :>) B BLESSED. :>)