October 21, 2014

Monday Open Thread: African-Americans In MotorSports

Good Morning Obots!

This week’s feature will spotlight the rich history of black drivers on the racing circuit. Today we begin with the story of the Gold & Glory Sweepstakes.

In the 1920s, a group of black sportsmen created the nation’s single largest sporting event ever held by and for African Americans: the Gold and Glory Sweepstakes, a series of 100-mile auto racing events held through the U.S. from 1924-1936. On August 2, 1924, an estimated 12,000 spectators crowded into the grandstand at the Indiana State Fairgrounds dirt track to celebrate the single largest sporting event ever held for African Americans. There they witnessed a 100-mile spectacle that attracted newspapers and newsreel agencies from all over the country.

During the 1920s and ’30s, Frank Young was one of the most popular black sportswriters in America. During the inaugural year of the Gold and Glory Sweepstakes in 1924, the promoters of the Colored Speedway Association contacted Young and invited him to travel to Indianapolis and report on “the single largest sporting event ever to be held for African-American athletes.” Young could not pass up the offer. Throughout the twelve-year run of the Gold and Glory Sweepstakes, Frank Young penned some memorable quotes about the race and the race car drivers. Young’s reports even inspired promoters to christen the event The Gold and Glory Sweepstakes.

“This auto race will be recognized throughout the length and breadth of the land as the single greatest sports event to be staged annually by colored people. Soon, chocolate jockeys will mount their gas-snorting, rubber-shod Speedway monsters as they race at death defying speeds. The largest purses will be posted here, and the greatest array of driving talent will be in attendance in hopes of winning gold for themselves and glory for their Race.” – Frank Young, Chicago Defender, July 5, 1924

“This Gold and Glory event is the dawn of a new opportunity, another step forward, the brushing away of another barrier, another obstacle met and surmounted by our group in the realm of sports.” – Frank Young, Chicago Defender, August 2, 1924

“Just now everybody is buzzing about the big automobile derby in Indianapolis-the biggest sports event of the season…Now word comes from Indianapolis that twenty-six or more drivers will enter the elimination trials and on Saturday afternoon, fifteen will face the starter in the first big annual derby. It is certainly to be some race, and we are hoping that it is a whale of a success, because it opens a new field of sport for our fans, and it opens a new field for our drivers.” – Frank Young, Chicago Defender August 2, 1924

PBS has compiled a history of the races along with drivers and winners and available photos. Please visit the site to learn more about the Gold & Glory Sweepstakes.

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  • caribbeanobserver

    Good morning to the POU family. A Happy International Men’s Day to all, especially the men who faithfully add their tuppence to the blog. Good tidings.

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      Mornin’ Carib, CC and POU!

      • crazycanuck

        Oh Good Morning Everyone. Bad Manners

        • Alma98

          Morning cc.

    • GreenLadyHere

      Good MornTin’ caribbeanobserver. **BIG HUG*** :>)

      – – -***fist bump** – – -JOININ’ U. .:>) – — -Thanks 4 brangin’ this information. :>) – – –

      May U also have a good day, :>) – –

  • crazycanuck

    Who is Michael Rosenberg?

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    John Nichols ‏@NicholsUprising
    Obama’s vote-total – 63.5M and rising – is now the highest ever for a president seeking reelection. @thenation @WeGotEd @edshow

    • GreenLadyHere

      Good Monday MornTin’ Sepia – – –***BIG HUG* :>)

      Ohhhh — -What GR8 NEWS!! — -:>)

      – –OUR BELOVED PRESIDENT — -CONTINUES 2 WIN!! –:>) —

      THIS is a GOOD GLOAT!! – – –READ annnd WEEP – -RE-THUCKERS!! :>)

      Good 2 C U – Sepia :>)

    • goldenstar

      I KNEW that the PBO campaign had its eyes on this prize. Not from any news outlet. In. my. gut. I knew that they wanted to make this victory a decisive victory.

      Go on, with your bad self.

  • rikyrah

    Good Morning, Everyone :)

  • isonprize

    POU!! I LOVE THIS SITE!!! Y’all ALWAYS bringing new knowledge.

    Gold and Glory Sweepstakes, I love it!!! Thanks so much for the education.

    • qosine

      Yes! I love these series! I’m going to read that PBS site now.

  • rikyrah

    November 17, 2012
    An ugly, but liberating, intolerance
    The LA Times’ Doyle McManus takes stock of the nation’s gerrymandered bugHouse:
    [The] Republican caucus [is] more conservative, more Southern, more rural and seemingly less inclined than ever to compromise with a Democratic president and a Democratic-run Senate….

    There will be fewer Republicans in the House next year, but they look even less likely to bend than the current crop.

    The impasse could reach intolerable proportions. Over the next two years there’ll be budgets to be passed, debt ceilings to be raised, appropriations to be authorized and thousands of other rudimentary tasks of basic governance to be executed. Yet foremost in the minds of Republican House members will be plumbing whatever reckless depths are necessary to avoid being primaried by even wackier right-wing fanatics.

    If we’ve learned anything about this “current crop” as well as the next it’s that they’re profoundly undemocratic, indifferent to empirical reality and monstrously smug. Neither President Obama’s first popular election nor second means anything but a target to these pseudoconservative thugs, while an enlarged Democratic Senate and superior national turnout for House Democratic candidates mean even less. Because state legislatures’ tortuously gerrymandered districts have entrenched these House GOPers, their constitutional right, or so they believe, to wrench political gain from self-induced crisis after self-induced crisis is as inalienable as it is compelled.

    It’s not yet possible to sketch what the nation’s final intolerance of the GOP will look like, but it’s likely to be ugly. Very ugly.

    http://pmcarpenter.blogs.com/p_m_carpenters_commentary/2012/11/an-ugly-but-liberating-intolerance.html

  • rikyrah

    .GOP subjects Romney to Lord of the Flies treatment
    By Steve Benen – Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:01 AM EST.

    In theory, there’s nothing stopping Mitt Romney from seeking elected office again. He has vast wealth, high name recognition, and an eagerness to serve, and came relatively close to winning the presidency a few weeks ago.

    But at this point, Romney would be lucky to get his own allies to return his phone calls. The failed candidate caused a stir last week when he told donors President Obama won re-election because he bribed women and minorities with “big gifts,” such as health care and education. Several prominent figures on the right denounced the comments, but on the Sunday shows, Republicans piled on.

    Mitt Romney, who just two weeks ago was the Republican Party’s standard-bearer, seen by many as the all-but-elected president of the United States, has turned into a punching bag for fellow Republicans looking to distance themselves from his controversial “gifts” remark. [...]

    Whether it’s an instance of politicians smelling blood in the water as the party, following Romney’s defeat, finds itself without a figurehead, or genuine outrage, a number of Republicans have eagerly castigated their former nominee.

    Josh Marshall said the GOP pushback amounted to “Lord of the Flies” treatment, which seems like an apt comparison.

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/11/19/15278270-gop-subjects-romney-to-lord-of-the-flies-treatment?lite

  • GreenLadyHere

    — – GOOD BEAUTIFUL MORNTIN’ POU FAM♥ —TODAY IS Sooo SPECIAL!! – -as MR. PRESIDENT MAKES HIS HISTORIC VISIT 2 MYANMAR. – – A FIRST!! – – – –Woo! Hooo! – – –

    – —Here is a video from his visit to THAILAND – – —

    – — –Video- President Obama & Prime Minister Shinawatra of Thailand Joint Press Conference

    – — – -PRESIDENT OBAMA, Prime Minister Shinawatra of THAILAND

    — – -ENJOY YOUR ENERGY DRANK. :>) – –

    Have a BLESSED DAY – – -POU FAM♥ —

  • rikyrah

    The Price is wrong
    By Steve Benen – Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:42 AM EST.

    In the two weeks since the elections, there’s been a subtle shift in Republican rhetoric when it comes to debt reduction and tax policy. Whereas the GOP line in recent years has focused solely on spending cuts, the post-election debate has a new premise: we’re not debating whether there will be new revenue; we’re debating where that revenue will come from.

    While it’s a welcome change, it’s important to realize that the new Republican line is still very far to the right, and completely divorced from any sensible understanding of budget and/or economic policy.

    Consider, for example, what House Republican Policy Committee Chairman Tom Price (R-Ga.) told CNN yesterday. The far-right lawmaker began by saying “a real solution includes both revenue increases and spending reductions,” which sounded encouraging, until he explained the fine print.

    Tax revenue, which means broadening the base, lowering the rates, closing the loopholes, limiting the deductions, limiting the credits, and making certain that we identify the appropriate spending reductions so that we have, indeed, a balanced approach. [...]

    “Well, again, we would be happy to look at [increased tax rates] if it solved the problem. The problem is, it doesn’t solve the problem. We want a real solution, which means increasing tax revenue through pro- growth policies…. Tax increases to chase ever higher spending is a fool’s errand. What we need to do is have that balanced approach that we’ve all been talking about, which, again, is increasing revenues through a process of tax reform, and then spending reductions.”

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/11/19/15278925-the-price-is-wrong?lite

  • rikyrah

    The Story Behind the Most Viral Photo Ever
    Nov 19, 2012 4:45 AM EST

    The image that came to symbolize Obama’s reelection was chosen on the spur of the moment by an exhausted campaign staffer. Brian Ries on how the most viral photo ever came to be.

    Michelle Obama, wearing a red-and-white patterned dress, stands with her back to the camera. Her arms are wrapped around her husband, whose face is relaxed, his eyes closed, the hints of a smile lingering on the edges of his lips. “Four more years,” reads the text accompanying the photograph, which was posted on the Obama campaign’s Facebook and Twitter accounts around 11:15 p.m. on election night—just as it became clear the president had won a second term.
    That photo, taken by a campaign photographer just a few days into the job in mid-August, has broken all sorts of Internet records. With more than 816,000 retweets as of Sunday, it’s the most shared picture in the history of Twitter, beating out entries from Justin Bieber and the fast-food chain Wendy’s. It’s also the most-liked photograph ever to be shared on Facebook, amassing almost 4.5 million “likes” since Election Day. And it’s sure to be the photo most everyone with an Internet connection will remember seeing as they heard that Barack Obama—for better or for worse—would reside for four more years at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

    The photographer, Scout Tufankjian, says it captures the Obamas’ “deep love and respect for one another.”

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/19/the-story-behind-the-most-viral-photo-ever.html

  • rikyrah

    McCain wants vacant Secretary of State’s office
    By Steve Benen – Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:07 AM EST.

    Making his 20th Sunday show appearance since the start of the year, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) told CBS’s Bob Schieffer yesterday he wants Susan Rice to tell a national television audience she was “wrong” to convey the collective judgment of the intelligence community about the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.

    Why should Rice do this? I haven’t the foggiest idea, but it seems to make sense to McCain, whose smear campaign long ago stopped being rational.

    But that’s not all he said.

    For those who can’t watch clips online, at the very end of the “Face the Nation” interview, McCain concluded:

    “Under the present circumstances, until we find out all the information as to what happened, I don’t think you could want to support any nominee right now because this is — this is very, very serious, and it has even larger implications than the deaths of four Americans.

    “It really goes to the heart of this ‘light footprint’ policy that this administration has been pursuing. And all of the failures throughout Middle East that are now — the chickens are now coming home to roost.”

    Got that? As far as McCain is concerned, he not only wants to block a possible Rice nomination, he’ll also oppose “any” Secretary of State nominee until he’s prepared to bring this tantrum to a close.

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/11/19/15279325-mccain-wants-vacant-secretary-of-states-office?lite

  • rikyrah

    Calling Down The Brimstone
    By Zandar November 19th, 2012

    This is probably the most bizarre and ghoulish part of the Christian evangelical culture in the US: hoping not just for political defeat but for the complete destruction of the country in order to teach a lesson. Take Franklin Graham, for instance. His Obama Derangement Syndrome is full-blown:

    Maybe God will have to bring our nation down to our knees—to where you just have a complete economic collapse. And maybe at that point, maybe people will again begin to call upon the name of almighty God.

    This goes back to what I’ve been saying now is the chief goal of the GOP at this point: to relentlessly punish the coalition that President Obama built in order to try to split it, to force it to break through applied Stockholm Syndrome. Graham’s words go right into this. It serves the GOP’s purpose: “our kind” will be spared, “those people” will be punished. From Mitt Romney’s “gifts” comments all the way on down, the GOP is now looking to knock the blocks out from under the Democratic Big Tent platform. They’re targeting the Voting Rights Act, going after contraception and Planned Parenthood funding, still dragging their feet on immigration and marriage equality. They know that if the Dems get proper credit for those, the Republicans are done.

    Before it was about sabotaging the country to win. Now it’s about sabotaging the country for revenge.

    http://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/11/19/calling-down-the-brimstone/

  • GreenLadyHere

    GOOD MONDAY MORNTIN’ miranda – -***BIG HUG*** :>)

    Ooooooweeeee! – – – –What a GR8 TOPIC!!!. — — –

    – – -LOOK AT US!! – –In the 1920s, a group of black sportsmen created the nation’s single largest sporting event ever held by and for African Americans: the Gold and Glory Sweepstakes, a series of 100-mile auto racing events held through the U.S. from 1924-1936.

    I’m soo sorry that THIS KNOWLEDGE was not – -CONTINUED 2 B shared in our history. BUT here is ANOTHER GOOD TOPIC 4 – –BLACK HISTORY MONTH! :>)

    THIS Is an EXTENSION of the TRADITION – —

    – – –Antron Brown Going for the Western Swing Sweep Sonoma 2009 – –Woo! Hoo! – – –

    THANK U –annnd lookin’ -FORWARD – – -> 2 THIS WEEK! :>) – – –

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – — O! MY! GOODNESS!! — -THIS IS – –BEYOND EXCITING!! _ — –

    — —Obama speech at University of Yangon – DVB Live – —

    – – –DVB TV Live – 19.11.2012 – U.S President Barrack Obama’s historic speech at University of Yangon, Burma.

    – — -HE GAVE a GREETING in THEIR LANGUAGE> – – -:>) —He ALWAYS HONORS PEOPLE by RELATING 2 them. :>)

    – —COMMENTS:

    What a Wonderful Speech for our Nation. We Love U Mr. President Obama.Tinlin Htay

    – — He travels from ward to ward in Chicago, then from country to country. Open Government Partnership, the rays of hope, freedom from fear, all good things he brings to Burma. God bless USA and Burma , and Obama and me too!

    – — -WE R sooooo PROUD of U – – -MR. PRESIDENT!♥ – –U R a FIRST – – -in sooo many ways. :>) BLESS U SIR. :>)

    • nellcote

      HE GAVE a GREETING in THEIR LANGUAGE
      ===
      Love that he shows RESPECT for others.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY nellcote – — – -***BIG HUG*** :>) – —

        – – – –***fist bump**** – —I KNOW –HUH!! –:>)

        He’s — JUS’ DA GRACIOUS GENTLEMAN.♥ :>) – — –

        Good 2 C U nellcote. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda — –WAY-ELL – – – -IMMA continue 2 GLOAT! — LOL – – -The RE-THUCKERS R in such –DISARRAY!! – — -LOL – –

    – – -Republicans at a crossroads – –[HAH! --DISARRAY!!]

    – —Republican governors are torn between essentially staying the course in the wake of Mitt Romney’s loss and a more proactive strategy aimed at radically shaking up their party in an effort to reach out to young and minority voters.

    Some governors believe that Romney’s loss two weeks ago to President Barack Obama was just that — a loss by a single candidate who ran a defensive campaign pummeled by negative ads and lacking in vision. They advocate sticking to a tried-and-true formula of running their own races and hewing to local instead of national dynamics.

    – –THIS – ->But other Republicans here attending the Republican Governors Association conference last week believe a more dramatic Republican makeover is in order. They argue that they and the party must reach out to young and minority voters, especially Latinos, in order to win in 2014 and beyond.
    THERE IS MORE

    – –LOL – — Dey —SCURRED!! — -:>)

    • qosine

      They need to start with that photo. As you say GLH, need a pair
      of sunglasses. Looks like an avalanche.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY qosine. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

        LOL – – -THANK U! – —I KNOW HUH!?- — -I STILL HAVE MINE. :>) LOL

        Good 2 C U qosine. :>)

    • conlakappa

      A loss by a single candidate, huh? Had he won, he’d have been lauded as the savior of the party. Success has many fathers, failure is an orphan.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – — -O.K. — -THIS is CUTE. – – -VP Biden –makes me SMILE. :>) – –

    – – – -Humorous Email - —

    – — -I received a bunch of emails yesterday from people who were part of Vice-President Joe Biden’s press pool during his trip to New Jersey and New York. My eighth update was the best.

    – —-SNIP – —
    – –The group moved upstairs to a waiting room within the terminal, where officials showed VPOTUS more pictures. Many appeared to be of devastated New Jersey Transit tracks. When shown a picture of boats and water on the tracks, VPOTUS said “Holy mackerel.” He then greeted some first responders before giving another set of brief remarks near some ferry slips.

    – —SNIP – —

    – – –So as the president said when he was up here with the governor, we’re not going anywhere. We’re not not going anywhere. And you’ve got a homeboy in the deal who gets it.” — -LOL :>)

    – – –BLESS U – –VP Joe!♥ :>) – –

    • qosine

      VP Joe is the real deal., He’s so right about the ocean culture. My family spent many summers at Rehoboth Beach in Delaware.

      • GreenLadyHere

        Good MornTin’ qosine. ***BIG HUG**** :>) – –

        – –***fist bump*** — -:>) —-He’s –On da — HUNNUD[-i.e., 100% REAL] —

        Look At-choo! :>) – – THANK U 4 SHARIN’ – – –:>)-

        Good 2 C U qosine. :>) ***HUGS** :>) – – -

    • nellcote

      Don’t know if this VP Joe “regular guy” Biden interview with Car and Driver Mag was posted last year, but this image always makes me laugh:

      C/D: Any cars recently zing you?

      JB: My brother has one of those 556-hp [CTS-V] Cadillacs with a manual. He brought it down for me to eat my heart out. So I got in. I have a driveway that’s about 1700 feet long. I knew the Secret Service wouldn’t let me drive it outside. So I jumped on that sucker and laid rubber.  A great feeling. That thing could probably beat my Corvette.

      http://www.caranddriver.com/features/what-id-do-differently-vice-president-joe-biden-interview

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – – -***sigh*** Annd IT CONTINUES – – –

    – – -AP: Strike On Media Center Killed Top Leader Of Islamic Jihad – —

    – —–An Israeli strike on a media center in Gaza City Monday killed a leader of the Palestinian group Islamic Jihad, according to the Associated Press.

    BREAKING: Gaza group Islamic Jihad says Israeli strike on media center killed one of its top militant leaders.
    — The Associated Press (@AP) November 19, 2012
    —-

    – — -[A tv newsman jus' said that the Hamas STARTED this recent conflict.]

    FINALLY: — -Some one else is SPEAKIN’ UP!!- —

    – –U.N. Secretary-General On Violence In Gaza: ‘This Must Stop’- —

    – – – -United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon issued a statement on Sunday calling for an end to the violence between Israel and Hamas militants in and around the Gaza Strip. The U.N. chief said he is flying to the region to “appeal personally” for both sides to reach a peaceful resolution to the conflict.

    The statement:

  • TyrenM

    Good morning all and Happy Revolution Day (Mexico.) WE might need one of those here, and I’m not talking about the fourth of youlie. I didn’t know there was an International Men’s Day so thanks for the continued education.

    • caribbeanobserver

      And our PBO is simply wooing them in the Pacific. The Pacific president indeed, as well as the ‘well loved the world over’ international male.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – – —LOL – — A POST-ELECTION –LOSS — -SIGHTIN’ — – -of da TWITT! – -LOL – –

    – – –
    Mitt Romney Post-Election ‘Twilight’ Date
    – – — -LOL

    – – —-There are some advantages to not being elected President of the United States — like you can go to see the new “Twilight” movie without making a big fuss … which is exactly what Mitt Romney did this weekend.

    TMZ spies caught a glimpse of the wannabe Prez and wife Ann out at the movies in Del Mar, CA on Saturday night. Our spy says the couple was joined by two young men, but it’s unclear who they were.

    After the movie, Mitt and Ann (with no bodyguards in sight) hit up a pizza place across the street. We’re told he was super friendly to everyone, even posing for a few pics.

    Little late to try to be a man of the people.

    –HAH – – – -GLOATIN’ – – – –

    — – – – -ACTUALLY – –HE’S HOME!! — -THIS IS WHERE HE LIVES!! LOL- —

    • nellcote

      Blood sucking vampires? He probably thought it was a documentary.

    • conlakappa

      Did they take a grandchild or something? Was it a last-ditch effort to get the girl, first-time voter? Did Ann have a bedazzled t-shirt on that said “Team Edward!?”

      • Aquagranny911

        No grandchild. It was “date night” for both of them. How cuddly cozy to go see a teenage vampire movie together when “Lincoln” film was also premiering.

        • Town

          Well, to be fair to Romney, he probably didn’t want to see a movie about a U.S. President, something he will never be.

          • Aquagranny911

            Why should I be “fair” to the Robme? He was never fair to any of us.

            He and his wife & their sons are a collective boil on the ass of humanity. I have no use or goodness in my heart for any of them.

        • conlakappa

          Ha! Right?

  • Miranda

    So Allen West done went all Effie White? He refuses to leave huh?

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda — – -DANG! — – -Da OTHER “WEST” – – – DRANK YER PRUNE JUICE —annnnd LET IT GO!!!! — LOL – –

    – – – – -Allen West falls further behind – –

    — — -Florida Rep. Allen West’s reelection prospects grew dimmer Sunday, as a recount of early ballots showed him falling further behind his Democratic opponent.

    Democrat Patrick Murphy, a 29-year-old construction company executive, gained 242 votes after the St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections completed its re-tabulation, increasing his lead to more than 2,100 votes over West, a tea party hero. Murphy’s lead is just outside the 0.5 percent margin that would trigger an automatic district-wide recount under Florida law.

    U! – — -A! – –LOSER!! – – -HAH!

    • Kennymack1971

      We need you Sandman Sims and we need you now.

  • creolechild

    Good morning POU!

    House Democrats push for extension of jobless benefits Posted 11/12/12

    House Democrats are beginning their push for an extension of expanded federal unemployment benefits before more than 2.1 million workers lose them at year’s end. Ways and Means panel ranking member Sandy Levin (D-Mich.) and Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas) released a committee report on Monday arguing for quick action to extend benefits before they expire Dec. 29.[....]

    Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/economy/267381-house-democrats-push-for-extension-of-jobless-benefits

    H/T Vicki Needham

    • TyrenM

      Oh damn. Hostage item #1.

  • Alma98

    Good morning everyone, here’s something hilarious from the onion lol.
    http://www.theonion.com/articles/cnns-john-king-now-just-swiping-hands-across-every,30299/

  • creolechild

    350 Economists Call On Congress To Invest In Job Growth Instead Of Austerity Posted on November 14, 2012

    America’s fledgling economic recovery is being threatened by “obsessive concern with cutting deficits that has infected both parties,” a group of 350 economists wrote in a letter to lawmakers this week. Instead of focusing on deficit-reducing austerity measures that will do nothing to fix the “mass unemployment, rising poverty, and declining wages” that are holding back the recovery, Congress should focus on public investments that will boost job and economic growth, the letter states:[....]

    Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/11/14/1191171/350-economists-call-on-congress-to-invest-in-job-growth-instead-of-austerity/

    H/T Travis Waldron

  • creolechild

    European Countries Seek More Taxes From U.S. Multinational Companies

    Google reported sales of more than $4 billion in Britain last year. It paid less than $10 million in taxes. Some tax collectors, lawmakers and competitors of Google in Europe say this is unfair. As governments throughout the region seek to close gaping holes in their budgets, they are taking aim at United States multinational companies, especially Internet giants like Google and Amazon.com, which pay little or no taxes in Europe, despite generating billions of dollars in revenue on the Continent.[....]

    “We pay the tax we are required to pay in every country in which we operate,” Matt Brittin, Google vice president for North and Central Europe, told the parliamentary panel. Ms. Hodge, chairwoman of the Public Accounts Committee, acknowledged that she thought Google, Amazon and Starbucks were probably complying with the law. “We are not accusing you of being illegal, we are accusing you of being immoral,” she said.[....]

    Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/19/technology/19iht-tax19.html?ref=business&_r=0

    H/T Eric PFanner

  • creolechild

    Ooops…another one gets caught breaking the law by the DOL.

    Panaderia Chuy Bakery in Austin, Texas, pays $244,770 in minimum, overtime back wages to workers following US Labor Department investigation

    Los Poblanitos LLC, doing business as Panaderia Chuy Bakery, has paid a total of $244,770 in back wages owed to 101 restaurant and bakery employees at two of the company’s locations in Austin. The unpaid wages resulted from violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act’s minimum wage, overtime and record-keeping provisions that were uncovered during an investigation by the U.S. Department of Labor’s Wage and Hour Division.[....]

    Read more: http://www.dol.gov/opa/media/press/whd/WHD20122074.htm

  • macademic

    Good morning, POU! Here’s a lil Monday positivity:

    A Hip-Hop Experiment
    By JOHN LELAND

    They are an unlikely team of educational reformers.

    Christopher Emdin is a Columbia University professor who likes to declaim Newton’s laws in rhyme. GZA is a member of the Wu-Tang Clan who left school in 10th grade. When the two men met this summer, at a radio show hosted by Neil deGrasse Tyson, the director of the Hayden Planetarium, they started talking about science and education — particularly, why science classrooms were failing to engage many African-American and Latino students, who together make up 70 percent of New York City’s student body. Only 4 percent of African-American seniors nationally were proficient in sciences, compared with 27 percent of whites, according to the 2009 National Assessment of Educational Progress.

    GZA, 46, who was born Gary Grice, had just finished an extraordinary round of meetings with physicists at Harvard and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, culling ideas for a coming solo album about the cosmos. Dr. Emdin, 34, an assistant professor of science education at Teachers College, was a lifelong hip-hop fan. They discovered a shared interest in merging their two worlds: GZA by bringing science into hip-hop; Dr. Emdin by bringing hip-hop into the science classroom.

    Next month, the two men, along with the popular hip-hop lyrics Web site Rap Genius, will announce a pilot project to use hip-hop to teach science in 10 New York City public schools. The pilot is small, but its architects’ goals are not modest. Dr. Emdin, who has written a book called “Urban Science Education for the Hip-Hop Generation,” hopes to change the way city teachers relate to minority students, drawing not just on hip-hop’s rhymes, but also on its social practices and values.

    Rap Genius, which recently received a $15 million investment from the venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz, hopes to expand its site, where users annotate lyrics, into education. And GZA saw a potential hit: “You never know,” he said of their collaboration. “This could turn into something in the future as big as the spelling bee.”

    more here: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/18/nyregion/columbia-professor-and-gza-aim-to-help-teach-science-through-hip-hop.html?hpw

    • jds09

      This is so very cool.

    • Aquagranny911

      Totally creative! Just wonderful way to teach from where the students are at while bringing them where you would like them to be. I wish great success to all involved!

      • BarbinAtlSouth

        I hope it spreads beyond NY. I know it would work here in GA.

      • BarbinAtlSouth

        I hope it spreads beyond NY. I know it would work here in GA.

        • Aquagranny911

          Here in AZ too!

  • creolechild

    New Measure Shows Government Assistance Kept More Than 25 Million Out Of Poverty In 2011 Posted on November 14,2012

    [....] The Census Bureau today released its updated report on the SPM for 2012, which showed that about 16 percent of the country is living in poverty, roughly the same as last year. Using that new data, the Center for American Progress determined that, all told, federal programs aimed at helping struggling Americans lifted more than 25 million people out of poverty in 2011:

    Refundable tax credits for working families such as the earned income and child tax credits, for example, lifted 8.7 million people out of poverty in 2011, and the child poverty rate would have been 6.3 percentage points higher without them. Similarly, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program lifted 4.7 million people out of poverty in 2011. Without it, the child poverty rate would have been 2.9 percentage points higher.[....]

    Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/11/14/1191871/poverty-measure-25-million/

    H/T Jeff Spross

    • conlakappa

      But Corn Flakes and Tavis told me that the President hates poor people. Should I believe these lying real numbers or those two?!!!

  • Miranda

    Obama Moved By Supportive Crowds In Myanmar

    President Obama was moved by the crowds that greeted him in Myanmar, Ben Rhodes, Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Communications, said during a press gaggle aboard Air Force One Monday. “The President was very moved by the outpouring of people lining the streets,” Rhodes said.

    Rhodes continued: “And then I’d say, look, in each meeting, the leaders could not have been more positive and gracious. And President Thein Sein went out of his way; multiple times in the meeting he used the President’s campaign slogan. You heard him do it in his public comments, but he did — multiple times in the bilat he said, ‘I want to do what you’ve been talking about, I want to move forward’… So I think he was struck by the welcome he received from the people. He had a very positive meeting with the president in terms of the warmth with which he was received.”
    http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/obama-moved-by-supportive-crowds-in-myanmar

    • Aquagranny911

      This historic meeting should be all over USA news but it is NOT! Everything I have gotten has been on the internet & through foreign news sources.

      When will people here rise up & demand that our so called, way over paid, “reporters” actually do their jobs? Chuckie the toad was whining that they had problems with their “feed” but Al Jeezera seemed to not have this issue. Neither did other foreign press.

      I am so disgusted with our goatfigging press here.

      • MsKitty

        The day BBC World was added to my cable channel lineup I practically did a happy dance in my living room. That has become my go-to news channel, I don’t even bother with the others anymore. Having said that, I wish they would broadcast CNN International here. It is nothing like that domestic crap, they actually report the news instead of non-stop bloviating from pundits who couldn’t find their asses with two hands and a flashlight.

        • Aquagranny911

          I wish I had BBC world. My daughter has it on her package but we can’t get it here.

          …”couldn’t find their asses with two hands and a flashlight.” Or a mirror on a stick, LOL!!!

    • Worldwatcher7

      For a brief self-inflicted moment of terror, just imagine a president Romney on this trip.

  • creolechild

    This is what “taking care of our own” should resemble…

    Spain Suspends Evictions Of Its Most Vulnerable Citizens |

    In response to a growing economic crisis made worse by repeated austerity measures, Spain’s government has imposed a two-year moratorium on evictions of low-income and vulnerable citizens. As Reuters reported, “The government said it would suspend evictions for two years for vulnerable homeowners who can no longer pay back debt, including those with small children, the disabled and long-term unemployed.” “This is an emergency response to mitigate the effects of the worst of the economic crisis,” said Deputy Prime Minister Soraya Saenz de Santamaria. The measure applies “to families with household income of less than 19,200 euros a year.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/11/15/1199951/spain-halts-foreclosures/

    H/T Pat Garofalo

  • Miranda

    Nate Silver‏@fivethirtyeight
    Obama leads Romney by 3.1% nationally as further votes trickle in. Possible that could grow to ~3.5% once more CA/NY votes counted.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – – – -ANOTHER VIDEO of MR. PRESIDENT — in Myanmar —

    — -DASSK & Obama media briefing – DVB Live – —

    – – -DVB TV Live – 19.11.2012 – Daw Aung San Suu Kyi and U.S president Obama media briefing at University Ave resident.

    Annnd HE ACKNOWLEDGES – –SOS Hilary – —-her LAST foreign TRIP 2-GETHER. -[4:14]

    “I’ll B equally as brief though not quite as elegant.” – – -***sigh**

    ALWAYS the GRACIOUS -GENTLEMAN

    – – –COMMENTS: — -thank you Mr. President for praising Daw Su as your inspiration !! -Peter Leong

    MR. PRESIDENT♥ – – -WE R SOoooo –PROUD of U. –:>) – –

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – – -Oooo-Kaaaay – –Here’s MR. PRESIDENT – -ARRIVIN’ in BURMA –:>) – –

    – –U.S President Obama arrival in Burma – – –

    THIS is – – – -BEYOND EXCITING! – -:>) – – -A – -FIRST!! – – -U.S. PRESIDENT!! – – –

    – – -***tears*** annnnd ***smiles**** – – -

    • rikyrah

      AFO never gets old.

      NEVAH!!

  • Miranda

    Arizona Gun Store: No Obama Voters Allowed

    A gun shop in Arizona has a clear message to would-be customers who happened to vote for President Barack Obama: take your business elsewhere.

    Southwest Shooting Authority in Pinetop, Ariz. took out an advertisement last week in the local newspaper, the White Mountain Independent, that spelled out the store’s new policy in explicit terms.

    “If you voted for Barack Obama your business is not welcome at Southwest Shooting Authority,” the ad reads. “You have proven that you are not responsible enough to own a firearm.”

    more here
    http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/arizona-gun-store-no-obama-voters-allowed?ref=fpa

    • Alma98

      I got nothing these people are tiring.

      • Aquagranny911

        I know & pity me…I live in the state with people like this!

        • Alma98

          We have a few of them here too AG so I understand your angst.

        • TyrenM

          They’re here to. We call them Bachmanniacs.

          • Aquagranny911

            My heart to yours! You have the Bachmann!

            I guess we all have trials in this life.

    • Aquagranny911

      Ignorant asswipe! Why oh why does it always have to be Arizona?!?

      The thing that is so hysterically funny is how will this goatfigger know who someone voted for? Estupido!

      • nellcote

        Make sure Obama voters boycott his shop. I’m guessing he’s not the only gun store in AZ!

        • Aquagranny911

          A lot of Obama voters I know don’t own guns & would rather have a fork in the eye then buy one! People here who arm themselves like Rambo are figging NUTS!

    • Admiral_Komack

      Dear Southwest Shooting Authority in Pinetop, Ariz:

      FUCK YOU, TOO!

      Toodles.

  • Aquagranny911

    Hola POU!

    In between making pies I have been surfing around for footage of our Prez in Burma. What an amazing historic event! Next Cambodia!

  • Miranda

    Damn…he MUSTA been GOOD!Please Lawd, you gots to bring him back!

    Russian woman keeps husband’s dead body for 3 years

    A Russian woman kept the dead body of her husband in her apartment for three years, ordering her children to feed and talk to him in the hopes he would be resurrected, investigators said Monday.

    The deceased man, a missionary for a Pentecostal church, had lived with his wife and five children in a village in the Yaroslavl region in central Russia until he died in 2009, regional investigators said.

    “For three years, between August 14, 2009 and July 2, 2012, the corpse was lying in bed in a room in the apartment,” investigators said in a statement outlining the results of the probe.

    more here
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/19/russian-woman-keeps-husbands-dead-body-for-3-years/

    • Aquagranny911

      I am wordless….well, maybe one or two. My Hubby is good but not That good!

      Poor woman, it really is so sad in way that she could not let go & accept that her husband had taken his next journey. May she & her children find some peace now.

    • nellcote

      With stories like this, I always wonder what they do about the smell.

      Alrighty then, off to do something that gets THAT thought out of my head LOL

  • lamh36

    morning guys.

    things I like about POU

    1. the weekly subjects about things other than politics

    2. the little band of regulars that comment here and that keeps the convo flowing with interesting tidbits, snarky rejoinders & even knowledgeable rants

    3. I can get links to and see pictures of POTUS along with commentary that doesn’t make me feel like I’m reading an issue of TigerBeat w/Justin Bieber in the cover (I’m just saying

    • Aquagranny911

      Sweet comment Lamh36!

      I, for one, love all your comments about so many things. I learn a lot from you about contemporary culture & really look to you for movie reviews. You are a special part of POU.

      I do hope you have a good Thanksgiving. I know that sometimes gathering with family can be irritating, exasperating and exhausting but it is familia, the ones who love us or should love us. Try to love back as best you can & safe trip…vaya con Dios.

    • Aquagranny911

      Sweet comment Lamh36!

      I, for one, love all your comments about so many things. I learn a lot from you about contemporary culture & really look to you for movie reviews. You are a special part of POU.

      I do hope you have a good Thanksgiving. I know that sometimes gathering with family can be irritating, exasperating and exhausting but it is familia, the ones who love us or should love us. Try to love back as best you can & safe trip…vaya con Dios.

    • rikyrah

      be safe, lamh!

  • lamh36

    Today is my last day of peace before heading out to NOLA to spend time with my LOUD ASS FAMILY for Thanksgiving.

    I should pack for my trip to NOLA, but I can’t stop looking at this pic of Idris Elba… pic.twitter.com/36qOL6RY.

    The voice in my head keeps telling me, “Get Up, LAMH and get your azz to packing…but…well did you look at the picture…lol

    • MsKitty

      Dude could make burlap look fashionable is all I’m saying.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – –YES! – –THIS is GOOD NEWS —:>) – –

    — -Facing Rates Of $17 For 15 Minutes, FCC Takes Up Regulation Of Prison Phone Industry

    – – –Phone calls between prisoners and their families can cost as much as $17 for a 15-minute call, reaping generous profits in many states for both the phone companies that provide the service and the states, which receive what amount to legalized kickbacks. Recognizing the drastic obstacle these costs impose on children staying in touch with their parents, a bipartisan coalition launched a campaign this past Mother’s Day calling for regulation of this industry. On Thursday, the Federal Communications Commission entertained these calls, announcing at a rally that it would seek public comment on prison phone rules and rates. In a scathing September report, the Prison Policy Initiative’s Drew Kukorowski explains why the industry needs regulating:

    Exorbitant calling rates make the prison telephone industry one of the most lucrative businesses in the United States today. This industry is so profitable because prison phone companies have state-sanctioned monopolistic control over the state prison markets, and the government agency with authority to rein in these rates across the nation has been reluctant to offer meaningful relief.
    THERE IS MORE.

    This is soooo NOT FAIR. – —Nobody has this kind of money!!- – –Glad that it is bein’ addressed! :>)

    — – -BEEN PAST TIME!! – – -geesh! – —

    [Gotta "bounce" - - -MISSIN' U/CARRYIN' U IN MY ♥ - - -Back as soon as.] – –:>)♥

  • creolechild

    Undocumented Can Apply for FEMA Sandy Relief Through Citizen Kids

    [....] People issued a legal permanent resident card – commonly referred to as “a green card” – may apply for assistance if they have disaster-related losses. Other non-citizens who can apply with FEMA include those with legal resident status because of asylum, refugee status, parole status, suspension of deportation status or status as victims of domestic violence. Only one member of a household needs to be eligible to qualify the entire household for assistance, so parents and guardians may apply for FEMA subsidies on behalf of a minor child here with legal resident status.

    A household with family members with mixed immigration status may be eligible for disaster assistance as long as someone with legal resident status is in their home. FEMA says they do not collect information on the immigration status of other household members. The irony is that while some undocumented immigrants will not be able to access FEMA assistance they will likely play a major role in Sandy recovery.[....]

    Read more: http://colorlines.com/archives/2012/11/undocumented_immigrants_can_apply_for_fema_sandy_relief_through_citizen_children.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+racewireblog+%28ColorLines%29

    H/T Jorge Rivas

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – — -QUOTE: – – -We will EXTEND a HAND if you unclench your FIST. –:>)

    – – – —-President Barack Hussein Obama – – –

    ***tears* – -***smiles***

  • lamh36

    Only Barack H Obama (you pretty….) could wear this shirt and not look like a fashion disaster…lol.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/19/obama-batik-shirt-cambodia-_n_2159343.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003&ir=Politics

    • Worldwatcher7

      Move over FLOTUS, Mr. President is going to start a fashion trend his ownself.

    • Miranda

      The buyers at Neiman Marcus, Bloomingdale’s and Saks on the phone with orders right this second. LOL

      • BoomerGal

        That would make a fabulous Xmas gift. Hubby would look good in it, too!

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia
  • creolechild

    ‘If God Forgives Us, Then Our Community Should Forgive Us Too’

    Tayna Fogle is a mother of two, a grandmother of six, a basketball champion and a formerly incarcerated individual who spent a decade in prison. After a decade in prison and having the right to vote taken away from her she went on to fight through months of legal proceedings to be able to vote again. Today she works with Kentuckians for the Commonwealth as an organizer and voting rights activist to help other formerly incarcerated individuals regain their right to vote.[....]

    Earlier this month the Marguerite Casey Foundation and Equal Voice profiled Fogle in a video titled “Power of Voice.” Watch the video and learn more about Fogle’s work below.[....]

    Read more: http://colorlines.com/archives/2012/11/facing_race_attendee_tayna_fogle_works_to_get_the_formerly_incarcerated_the_right_to_vote.html

    H/T Jorge Rivas

  • creolechild

    ‘If God Forgives Us, Then Our Community Should Forgive Us Too’

    Tayna Fogle is a mother of two, a grandmother of six, a basketball champion and a formerly incarcerated individual who spent a decade in prison. After a decade in prison and having the right to vote taken away from her she went on to fight through months of legal proceedings to be able to vote again. Today she works with Kentuckians for the Commonwealth as an organizer and voting rights activist to help other formerly incarcerated individuals regain their right to vote.[....]

    Earlier this month the Marguerite Casey Foundation and Equal Voice profiled Fogle in a video titled “Power of Voice.” Watch the video and learn more about Fogle’s work below.[....]

    Read more: http://colorlines.com/archives/2012/11/facing_race_attendee_tayna_fogle_works_to_get_the_formerly_incarcerated_the_right_to_vote.html

    H/T Jorge Rivas

  • nellcote

    Someone needs to have a conversation with Tamron Hall. Why in the fuck is she quoting that fucking Maureen Dowd column about Susan Rice?

    • Miranda

      UGH

    • BoomerGal

      Tamron doesn’t have a mind of her own. I think she does what she’s told.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY BoomerGal. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

        – –***fist bump*** – – – -Been noticin’ that — -recently —

        – – – –Uhhhh – – –Wonder ifff – –L.O. will corroborate dat? — —

        Jus’ axin’.. . . .LOL – –

        Good 2 C U BoomerGal. :>)

  • lamh36

    Anderson Cooper needs to take his happy ass back to CNN and stop trying to act like some war correspondent. isn’t this the 2nd or 3rd time his ass has almost become the story? didn’t he get beat up or something during the Arab Spring? now his ass almost gets blown up or something? Dude, the next time MAY NOT be the charm!

    “@BuzzFeedPol: Anderson Cooper Almost Got Shelled In Gaza City http://t.co/mzmZMNYE”

  • Aquagranny911

    Twelve pies made & out of the oven in less than 6 hours! Damn I’m good!

    • Alma98

      Go AG! I’m making one pie this year the rest are cakes and cobbler. I plan on staying home and relaxing. We haven’t spent a thanksgiving at home since we moved back.

      • Aquagranny911

        LOL! Staying home for me is not “relaxing” with 50 or so people expected in & out of my casa on Thanksgiving day. Wednesday they will be pitching the tents in my yard to sleep the over flow, mostly the kiddos & they love this “camping out” The weather is expected to be very warm.

        The only good thing for me is I just have to clean & prepare the casa. Most of the cooking is being done by others. I tend to work harder when the feast is at another’s house, lol.

      • BoomerGal

        That sounds delicious! I’m getting prepared for a fried turkey! Can’t wait!

        • Alma98

          I’m gonna have to make a fried turkey one of these days.

    • rikyrah

      yes – you are good. and organized. i’m in awe.

      • Aquagranny911

        LOL! you cook for as many relatives as I do on lots of occasions & you learn “organized” real quick. You should watch me make tacos sometime when the grandkiddos are here.

  • rikyrah

    Stupid Republicans

    by BooMan
    Mon Nov 19th, 2012 at 12:59:57 PM EST

    The Daily Caller doesn’t understand why a reporter would ask Sen. Marco Rubio if he knows the age of the Earth. They also don’t know why it could possibly matter what a politician, even a potential president, thinks about the age of the Earth. For the record, Sen. Rubio says that he isn’t a scientist and that theologians disagree about the matter so he has no opinion. Could be that the Earth was created last week, or perhaps several months ago.
    The thing to do if you can’t remember the age of the planet is to use a search engine. You will immediately find your answer. This also works for discovering the atomic mass of Zinc, the diameter of Jupiter, or figuring out which day follows Tuesday. Perhaps you have forgotten the capital of Malawi or who played Chachi on Happy Days. Google or Bing can help you remember.

    Marco Rubio just visited Iowa which is not something your average Cuban-American Floridian does unless he or she is planning on running for president. Why does it matter that Rubio doesn’t know or care how the old the Earth is?

    Because it means he is either an idiot or a con man.

    http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/11/19/125957/61

  • rikyrah

    Geithner: Time to scrap the debt ceiling
    By Steve Benen
    Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:46 PM EST.

    Have you ever heard the theatrical saying, “If there’s a gun on the stage, it has to go off”? I think about the adage often when thinking about the debt ceiling.

    Between 1939 and 2010, Congress raised the debt limit 89 times. It was an easy, routine bit of legislative paperwork — the issue came up 89 times, and in 89 instances, Congress passed a clean bill. Even during the Bush presidency, Republicans raised the debt ceiling, without strings or preconditions, seven times. The current GOP leadership in Washington — John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, et all — has voted to raise the debt limit 19 times. Bush’s former budget director said this “ought to be treated as the housekeeping matter it is.”

    For 71 years, in other words, the gun on the stage sat untouched by both parties

    In 2011, congressional Republicans, for the first time in American history, decided to pick up the gun, load it, and wave it around. Never before had an entire major-party caucus threatened the full faith and credit of the United States, and the man-made crisis that ensued was brutal, both for our economy, our political health, and our standing on the global stage.

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/11/19/15282854-geithner-time-to-scrap-the-debt-ceiling?lite

  • rikyrah

    GOP Shouldn’t Be Optimistic

    by BooMan
    Mon Nov 19th, 2012 at 10:00:35 AM EST

    If you have ever flushed a bug down the toilet, you know that the bug never had a chance. The power of the water overwhelmed their ability to cling to the bowl and crawl their way out. But, if you have ever tried to flush a bug down the bathroom sink, you may have discovered that the power of the faucet was inadequate to the job. If the Republican Party is the bug, the question is, are they in the toilet or are they in the sink?
    It’s interesting that Chris Cillizza attributes the Republicans’ bad Election Night almost exclusively to demographic change and a bad turnout operation. I think he should consider that talking about “legitimate” rape and 47% of the people being parasites could have had an impact. The lack of any positive message beyond tax cuts was kind of a problem. The hostility to blacks and Latinos and gays and college women who use contraception? Possibly not helpful. Thoroughly alienating the academic and scientific communities? Not exactly a vote-getter.

    Mr. Cillizza provides us four reasons to believe that the Republicans aren’t in as bad shape as we might suspect. The first reason is that the GOP has a crop of “superstars” who are all coming of political age at the same time. The second reason is that (if the people who are projected to be superstars don’t pan out) the GOP may have some hidden gems in the historically-high 30 governor’s mansions they now control.

    There is no question that the GOP has some fresh faces who will present a much more attractive slate of presidential candidates in 2016 than we saw in 2012. But let’s not get too excited. New Jersey Governor Chris Christie could become a forceful advocate for a new kind Republicanism that has more appeal to Northerners, but physical and ideological liabilities make him no more likely than Rudy Giuliani to win the GOP’s nomination. Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal doesn’t set anyone’s heart aflutter. He reminds most people of the character Kenneth on 30 Rock. As for Latino candidates like Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, New Mexico Governor Susana Martinez, and Nevada Governor Brian Sandoval, they all have a lot of appeal, just not to the nativist base of the Republican Party. And I can hardly believe that Mr. Cillizza mentions Indiana Gov.-Elect Mike Pence as an up-and-comer. The man is as dumb as a post.

    http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/11/19/10035/086

    • BoomerGal

      That’s some analogy, Booman. Lol.

  • rikyrah

    The story behind the Twinkies’ maker’s demise
    By Steve Benen
    Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:50 AM EST.

    For conservatives, the demise of Hostess Brands, perhaps best known for making Twinkies, is a story about union workers going on strike and forcing a business to close its doors forever.

    For those concerned with the facts, a very different picture emerges. Forbes’ Helaine Olen had a good piece on this the other day.

    Hostess has been sold at least three times since the 1980s, racking up debt and shedding profitable assets along the way with each successive merger. The company filed for bankruptcy in 2004, and again in 2011. Little thought was given to the line of products, which, frankly, began to seem a bit dated in the age of the gourmet cupcake. (100 calorie Twinkie Bites? When was the last time you entered Magnolia Bakery and asked about the calorie count?)

    As if all this were not enough, Hostess Brands’ management gave themselves several raises, all the while complaining that the workers who actually produced the products that made the firm what money it did earn were grossly overpaid relative to the company’s increasingly dismal financial position.

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/11/19/15280973-the-story-behind-the-twinkies-makers-demise?lite

  • rikyrah

    Posted at 12:04 PM ET, 11/19/2012
    Nov 19, 2012 05:04 PM EST

    TheWashingtonPost
    What the Twinkie’s demise tells us
    By Greg Sargent

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/what-the-twinkies-demise-tells-us/2012/11/19/7df187a6-3265-11e2-bfd5-e202b6d7b501_blog.html

    As you may have heard, the Twinkie may soon be no more — Hostess, the maker of the iconic snack, is closing its plants and letting around 18,000 workers go, after the bakers’ union announced a national strike.

    The company is blaming the union, and much of the insta-Twitter-reaction from the right seems to agree. But more careful commentatary tells a more complex tale, one that you’d think unions and workers would want to tell.

    As the New Yorker’s James Suroweicki explains, the company had hoped to use bankruptcy as a way to slash workers’ wages and benefits, leading the union to go on strike. The company says this is forcing it to go out of business, and blames union greed for its demise. But Surowiecki notes that the company had been losing money and market share for years, and that its core problem was not high wages or pensions; it’s that the market for its products changed, and the company failed to keep pace.

    As Surowiecki points out, workers are getting scapegoated for company failings — a familiar refrain. And labor needs to push back on the larger idea that it’s unreasonable for workers to demand pensions and other guarantors of economic security:

    It was once taken for granted that an industrial worker who worked for a big company for many years would get a solid middle-class lifestlye, and would be taken care of in retirement. Today, that concept seems to many like a relic. Just as Wonder Bread does.

  • rikyrah

    Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 10:18 AM PST.

    Pelosi: Taxes must go up for wealthy

    by Joan McCarter

    House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi couldn’t be more clear: The Bush tax cuts for the rich have to expire.

    When ABC’s Martha Raddatz asked Pelosi in an interview whether she would accept a deal that did not include tax rate hikes for the rich, the House’s top Democrat had a short answer: “No.”
    “The president made it very clear in his campaign that there is not enough—there are not enough resources,” Pelosi said in an interview aired Sunday on ABC’s “This Week.

    “Just to close loopholes is far too little money … If it’s going to bring in revenue, the president has been very clear that the higher income people have to pay their fair share.”
    Despite that, House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) is trying to pretend otherwise, telling Fox News anchor Bill Hemmer that Pelosi and President Obama aren’t on the same page on the budget.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/19/1163115/-Pelosi-Taxes-must-go-up-for-nbsp-wealthy

  • Miranda

    Afternoon thread is up!

  • GreenLadyHere

    miramda – – –Annnnd – –Here is OUR BELOVED PRESIDENT – – -in CAMBODIA: – – -Woo! Hoo! – —

    — — –Obama arrives in Cambodia (0:56) – —

    – – -Nov. 19 – U.S. President Barack Obama arrives in Cambodia, meets Prime Minister Hun Sen and ASEAN leaders. Deborah Lutterbeck reports.

    WE COULD NOT B PROUDER – – -of U – –MR. PRESIDENT♥

    NO other person could have done[broken barriers] — – what U have done. :>)

    – –No Weapon Formed Against U — – -WORKED! :>) – – – -U R BLESSED. :>)