November 24, 2014

Monday Open Thread: African Americans and Golf History

Good Morning POU!

This week we’ll look back in history at how African-Americans broke ground in the game of golf. 

We began by paying tribute to the inventor of the modern golf tee.

George Fitzgerald Grant

George F. Grant, who was not only one of the first African-American golfers in post-Civil War America, he was one of the first African-American dentists. His was the blueprint for today’s wooden and plastic tees. He owned the first patent but was also the last to be recognized for his invention.

In the 19th century, teeing it up didn’t mean sticking a peg in the ground to hold the ball in the game of golf. At least not until Dr. George Grant invented the tee itself.

Grant — born in Oswego, N.Y., in 1847 — worked for his hometown dentist as a youngster, initially as an errand boy and eventually as an assistant in the lab. At the age of 19, determined to make his own way in the world, Grant left Oswego for Boston, but his funds were certainly no match for his determination.

He found work as a dental assistant and two years later earned a spot in the new Harvard Dental School. In 1870 Grant graduated with honors, becoming just the second African-American graduate of the Dental School.

The Dental School hired Grant upon graduation and he stayed for four years, specializing in his work with patients with defects on the roofs of their mouths. Grant formed individual inserts for those with cleft palates, which greatly helped those suffering in both speaking and eating. His patented oblate palate made him a forerunner in the field, well-known in the dental community both nationally and internationally as he left Harvard to begin his own practice.

His hobby and passion became golf in that time. His daughter, Frances, recalled caddying for her father in the 1880s in the Boston suburb of Arlington Heights, where her father had built a meadow course next to his country home. The family moved to Beacon Hill, but Grant took back to Arlington Heights in his free moments, golf clubs in hand.

He and his playing partners were among the first African-American golfers in post-Civil War America. And his partners were also among the most acclaimed in Boston — civil rights activist Archibald Grimke, noted restauranteur Howard Lee, and Butler Wilson, an 1884 Boston Law School graduate.

Grant found the method of teeing up a ball and pinching damp sand into a launching pad both inconsistent and tiresome. How could a player determine the preferred height of sand each time? Besides, the constant bending over at every tee box to form the little mounds was both physically taxing and, on rainy and inclement days, messy. So, tired of the inconvenience, Dr. Grant used his skills to improve the game and came up with an invention that would forever have an impact. On Dec. 12, 1899, he received U.S. patent No. 638,920, the world’s first patent for a golf tee.

Dr. Grant however, was more innovator than businessman and he never marketed his invention. He gave some of the tees to friends and playing partners, but the majority of them were squirreled away at his residence. When he died in 1910, his invention apparently died with him.

But his invention would become the blueprint for today’s wooden and plastic tees. Before Grant’s invention, golfers carried buckets of sand from hole to hole and built up sand mounds from which to hit the balls.  George Grant’s small invention has become a standard piece of equipment for all golfers.

Yet, because his invention reached a small audience, he was not recognized for it for several decades. Another dentist — Dr. William Lowell of Maplewood, N.J. — popularized the tee in 1921, when he manufactured the ‘reddy tee,’ which was painted red. (editor’s note: coincidence that another northeastern dentist – Caucasian –  found financial success with the same design, painted red?)

In 1991, nearly a century after his patent, the United States Golf Association finally gave Grant recognition for his contribution to the game of golf.

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  • rikyrah

    Good Morning, Everyone :)

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      Mornin’!

    • rigoletta

      Morning rikyrah! I hope everyone had a great weekend.

      • conlakappa

        Were you out enjoying the awesome weather we had? Darn near chilly at night, it was.

        • rigoletta

          I’m a little slow on the uptake so my normal practice of leaving the windows open to catch the nice summer breeze ended abruptly after I nearly froze to death a couple nights ago.

          The days are great but the evenings….

          I love the fall but I am not a cold weather person.

          • conlakappa

            Right? I always keep upstairs windows open but will confess to being challenged by Friday’s cold! So I close windows some.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Dang! I never knew a Black man invented the golf tee! Can you imagine if he had marketed it? I wonder if any of Dr. Grant’s tees still exist? They’d be worth a fortune!

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Congratulations to Nina Davuluri, the first Indian-American to win Miss America!

    Stay mad, 2520s. Stay mad.

    • rikyrah

      BWA HA HA HA HA HA

    • jziglar

      LOL !

    • rigoletta

      They stay fuming.

      She’s a talented and intelligent woman. I guess the haters would prefer this mess.

    • GreenLadyHere

      Good MONDAY MORNTIN’ Sepia♥ –***BIG HUG*** :>)

      — -LOL -LOL —“Saaaaaang! — — -***applause**

      —Annd she dances 2 –http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1457001.1379304554!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/usa-missamerica.jpg
      VERY LOVELY. :>)

      Good 2 C/HEAR U Sepia. LOL – —Have a good day. :>)

    • Miranda

      LMAO!!

    • Aquagranny911

      LMAO!!!

  • jziglar

    I heard that a number of 2520s are pissed about Nina Davuluri winning Miss America. All I could do is laugh.

    • conlakappa

      And all Nikki Haley could do is think, “oh, well, maybe 2020…”

      • rigoletta

        Ha!

        Her own people can’t stand her or Jindal. Nikki and Bobby Brady have as much chance as being elected president as I do.

        • Aquagranny911

          I’ll attest to that! One of my nephew’s wife is Indian American & you should hear what she has to say about Jindal. Ordinarily she is a very sweet spoken Chica but she can positively foam at her opinion of him.

      • itgurl_29

        Nikki Haley identifies as “white”. She ain’t mixed or anything. This Indian woman is just so messed up that she’s convinced herself that she’s a white woman.

        • conlakappa

          True. So no media will likely ask her or Jindal about it, for that matter.

  • conlakappa
    • GreenLadyHere

      GOOD MornTin conlakappa :>) ***BIG HUG*** :>)
      – -WATCHIN’ — – -Prayin’. – – — Good 2 C U conlakappa :>)

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      Vaughn Sterling ‏@vplus 3m
      Suspect is adult black male, 6 feet tall, bald head, medium complexion & wearing black clothing: black top & black jeans -DC Police

      • conlakappa

        They’ve shut down National Airport… The Navy Yard is the most accessible of the military bases in/around D.C.

      • TyrenM

        Why?

  • GreenLadyHere

    - – -GOOD MONDAY MORNTIN’ Miranda♥/POU FAM♥ – – – – -***BIG HUG*** :>) –Lookin’ FORWARD 2 THIS GR8 SERIES –WHICH Has Been – -EMPHASIZED By MR. PRESIDENT -RECENTLY. Woo! Hoo! :>) –WE R JUST – -“AIR”Where. :>)

    ——–☻Tee-TIME – -Mr. George F. Grant – –

    —— — – -☺3 FIRSTS: – – one of the first African-American golfers in post-Civil War America, he was one of the first African-American dentists. – He owned the first patent -[f4 the wooden/plastic TEE]

    ————-☺Annnd a PROUD 2nd: –becoming just the second African-American graduate of the [Harvard] -Dental School.

    — – – — — ☺He di-int REALIZE his FAME: -He gave some of the tees to friends and playing partners, but the majority of them were squirreled away at his residence. –FINALLY — -WE KNOW. :>)

    http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2009/01/06/va1237348852531/Barack-Obama-playing-golf-6428365.jpg

    — – —ENJOY YOUR -TREAT♥ –B BLESSED 2-DAY. – -:>)

    — – -Mr. PRESIDENT will SPEAK 2-day. :>) — -

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    BREAKING NEWS!

    Bill Thompson to concede to Bill de Blasio in New York City Democratic primary

    Mayoral also-ran Bill Thompson plans to throw in the towel Monday after the city’s recanvassing of the Democratic primary vote made clear his rival Bill de Blasio’s strong first-place lead wasn’t going to change, sources told the Daily News.

    Thompson plans a mid-morning press conference to give a concession speech and throw his weight behind Public Advocate de Blasio, who polled 40.2% of the vote to Thompson’s 26.2%, the sources said.

    The city Board of Elections began rechecking the results in 5,059 lever
    machines over the weekend and the results remained unchanged, the
    sources said.

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/bill-thompson-concede-bill-de-blasio-article-1.1457176#ixzz2f3ttOVDg

    • GreenLadyHere

      Sepia♥ — – -http://gifclub.com/Media/CLAPPING.gif Woo! Hoo! – –

      – –DING! – -DING! —DING! —-WE NOW — have a —WINNER!! :>) — CONGRATULATIONS!! —:>)

    • gn

      I think Bill Thompson has been a class act. Not surprised that it took about a week to settle this, but he’s carried himself extremely well throughout. I hope that he gets a role in de Blasio’s administration.

      • conlakappa

        I have a feeling he will and that the weekend was spent in figuring out what the role will be. I don’t at all mean that in a bad way.

        By the by, work might bring me to Brooklyn! Yes, we can engage in super sekritt/multi-layer/multi-media communication that will not allow me to know your name, play-cousin, but I hope we can meet!

        • gn

          lol when are you coming?

          • conlakappa

            The boss was slack on getting back to the would-be client so has to figure out if they still want us. She told them we could start in early October. Unless they are early-morning meetings, that would mean a series of day trips but at some point I’ll have to have a couple of two- or three-day trips, likely February at the latest. We need to suss out the work plan with the client but when I know, I’ll let you know. If I could string together work with the Manhattan client and the Brooklyn client, I could be there for days!

          • gn

            I normally don’t meet online people in the flesh but will make an exception for you. Keep me updated!

          • conlakappa

            I know you don’t–I remember someone on black orange trying to be NY pals with you and you stated your thoughts on that. That’s why I talked about decoder rings and such! We’ll set up dummy e-mail accounts. Oh, wait, I heard that’s the preferred choice of terrorists, which would be defined by two black wimmin meeting any way, right?

          • gn

            That’s a really good idea (but I will give you my name so your mom can look me up and rest assured lol; I’m not even telling my mom).

          • conlakappa

            Mind you, my mother was okay with enjoying the tickets said friends have given us. She’s calmed down some! True story: when I baked/made confections, I used to send stuff out to online folks and one woman’s husband was like, “do you know her? How do you know she’s not trying to poison you?!!!” She was munching cookies while he’s frantically asking and finally responded, “I guess you won’t be having any then, right?” I think later that night when he saw she was seizing up or anythingon day two he changed his tune. Maybe in that same package I sent my butterscotch sauce, which caused the first argument in their relationship, she said and he wanted me to package it in “Costco-sized jars.” He/they used to send me all kinds of good stuff in gratitude. No, I’m not into baking any more but I’ll win over your mother’s confidence with a bag of yeast rolls!

          • Aquagranny911

            LOL!

        • Guns3000

          I saw a few America’s Most Wanted episodes that started out like this.

          “So how did she meet the suspect?”

          “Online”

          “Oh lawd!!!”

          • conlakappa

            My mother assumes that any of my online friends will wind up killing me. She was nervous to meet some with whom I’ve become good real-life friends for brunch in Manhattan last year. And before that when an online friend, her same-sex partner, and daughter stayed with us on their way down South. My grandmother on the other hand loves that she has online fans!

          • Aquagranny911

            LOL @ your Mother! My Sis feels the same but she has good reason since someone from a blog actually did stalk her in RL some years ago. Seems he was a real RWNJ nutbucket who didn’t like her political opinions or her “sassy mouth.”

            It scared the caca out of her & the Fam so she no longer posts or blogs just lurks.

  • GreenLadyHere

    Miranda♥ – – –MEDIA ALERT: [Reminder] —Obama to speak on financial crisis – —

    — -☺11:40 AM
    Obama delivers remarks to mark the five-year anniversary of the financial crisis.
    — -LOOKIN’ FORWARD – – –:>)

    • TyrenM

      Methinks he’ll announce his Fed. nominee then…

      • GreenLadyHere

        Good MornTin’ TyrenM. ***BIG HUG*** :>)- —

        — – -***fist bump*** – — Sounds like a PLAN. :>)
        –It will B “easier” now.

        Though the “OBSTRUCTIONISTS” —-will B hard at werk. :>)

        Good 2 C U TyrenM :>) —

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Okay, now Ezra is just flat out LYING. Summers was NEVER nominated and PBO didn’t “change course” on Syria!

    Wonkbook: How the Summers nomination fell apart

    By Ezra Klein and Evan Soltas, Published: September 16 at 8:34 am

    Something very strange has been happening during President Obama’s
    second term. It’s called dissent. And, unusually for a chief executive,
    Obama is letting it — even inviting it — to get in his way.

    In two of the most significant decisions Obama has had to make —
    whether to strike Syria and who to appoint to the Federal Reserve —
    Obama has chosen processes that left a lot of space for Congress and the public to weigh in. And the result, in both cases, was that the
    resulting criticism led the White House to change course.

    MORE: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/09/16/wonkbook-how-the-summers-nomination-fell-apart/

    • qosine

      My Like is for you Sepia, not Ezra, who as usual
      delivers his passive aggressive water is wet analysis.
      Gee Ezra, you think our President has his own list,
      and would like his nominee, the one he selected,
      to actually engender our confidence, and actually
      get confirmed, to you know, do the work of the
      Federal Reserve Chair. We have a government
      and country to run, you know.

    • conlakappa

      Hipster bloggers will always act like hipster bloggers, even when given a traditional platform. He’s trifling.

    • gn

      I know that a lot of people value his analysis but I find Ezra Klein spotty and overrated. He’s smart and intellectually curious enough to get into policy detail however he (and many others) lack the courage and the gravitas to depart from the beltway blog/media clique and think for themselves. He’s right about one thing only: PBO encourages public debate and Congressional participation because he wants to implement democratic processes which will remain when he’s longer the POTUS. Totally agreed that the “change course” is bullshit and is just the beltway clique sleazily trying to save face after having been utterly totally and completely wrong again and having misled their readers and viewerships again.

      • qosine

        Great analysis, gn.

        • gn

          Thanks qosine! Yours and conlakappa’s comments are totally spot-on too.

      • Miranda

        He’s smart and intellectually curious enough to get into policy detail however he (and many others) lack the courage and the gravitas to depart from the beltway blog/media clique and think for themselves.

        ——————-

        EXACTLY. He’s a follower. A lot of these people have not progressed emotionally beyond the 7th grade. They are still hung up on “fitting in” and being popular. I think PBO brings back a lot of repressed memories from their days of being routinely dismissed by the popular kids in junior high.

        • gn

          They are literally a clique and thus their personal relationships and loyalty to each other infests our news. It really pisses me off because a lot of these people became prominent for “crashing the gates” and being extremely heavy critics of the beltway media and the manner in which this same incestuous quality led them to mislead the country during the run-up to Iraq in 2002–2003. They’re no better than Andrea Mitchell & co. and have let a lot of people down during PBO’s admin.

        • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

          You and GN are spot on! It’s like they finally get to sit at the cool kids’ table and they will say and do anything to keep their seat.

          • conlakappa

            After redefining cool, mind you. But they aren’t really cool and I’d agree with Miranda’s sentiment that the President brings that all back to them. He’s handsome, he got the gorgeous woman, and the great kids. This is not their beautiful life! I blame Judd Apatow and writers of his ilk to lead people to think the nerds truly do win [Revenge of the Nerds was farcical and billed as such; Apatow’s production act like it’s real].

        • qosine

          That’s so true. I understand trying to break
          into the business, making connections to
          build your career, and producing work to
          to prove your talent.

          Yet, I remember when Arianna hosted some event in a theater, back in the early Huff Po days. She and her buds drank wine and mingled on the stage, while “not equals” paid to sit in the audience and watch them.

          I was astounded at the arrogance of those
          who, not only could think up such a event,
          but knew they could pull it off, with the help
          of people willing to pay, not to mingle, but
          only to watch.

          It reminded me of the contestants in that wrenching story “Battle Royal” by Ralph Ellison.

          • Miranda

            They remind me of every John Hughes movie from the 80s. Ezra, Chait, etc. – all the Anthony Michael Hall character.

          • TyrenM

            Damn. Not even Ducky, just Brian.

          • itgurl_29

            Ducky didn’t care to fit in. He was fine with being a geek from the wrong side of the tracks. It was Andi who wanted to fit in so bad.

            They wish they were Ducky.

        • rikyrah

          love all the responses here

      • Kennymack1971

        Spot on GN.

    • jziglar

      The emo left swears that the President was going to nominate him when the President has said over and over again that he hasn’t made a decision. The President has shown time and again that when he says he hasn’t made a final decision he means it (case in point : The decision to go to Congress for a vote for military strikes).

      • qosine

        Exactly, jziglar.

      • gn

        They did the same thing with Ray Kelly. Presented gossip and a really dumb reading of the tea leaves as fact. Ta Nehisi “Zimmerman jury got it right” Coates led on that one.

  • GreenLadyHere

    Miranda♥ — – -***BAM*** —***hands out — -BAND AIDS**** :>)

    GOP’s Worst Nightmare

    – – – -I want you to take a good look at that face, Republicans. This is the face that you have been harassing and obstructing for over five years.
    The face that has taken on terrorists and dictators and pirates– global
    crisis and domestic tragedies– with our dignity and integrity fully
    intact. Now, he’s looking at you!

    Don’t let the smiles fool you. This guy means what he says. I’d look away, too. Be very afraid, Republicans. I know you’re having a difficult time trying to negotiate with yourselves, which would indicate that you must first figure out how to walk before you can soar with the eagles. And, being a party to domestic terrorism in trying to crash the global economy just to prevent poor people from getting healthcare and food has its perks, after all. But this time it’s different. Before you start pressing the little red buttons on your suicide vests, stop and think about this. I know you’ve tried everything you could to steal elections, criminalize abortion, and funnel rights and public property for pennies-on-the-dollar to the “job creators.”
    It’s just too bad for you and the rest of the country that you’ve had
    your priorities and principles in order to this point, but let me tell
    you, as recent events have demonstrated, I think this president is through negotiating with terrorists.
    I know you’re going through a tough time in your political lives, GOP.
    [2 BAD. – -LOL]
    THERE IS MORE— —-GR8 READ!!! :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    Miranda♥ —–Ms. JOY-s’ANN[ihilator] — — WEIGHS IN :>) – -[With TRUTH!]- –

    – —Zimmerman trial medical examiner: Prosecutors, police threw the case

    ——- The medical examiner who testified in the George Zimmerman trial says his office, state prosecutors and police had no interest in convicting the man who shot and killed Trayvon Martin and set him up to take the blame for a failed prosecution.
    – – – — -SNIP– –

    Attorney Willie Gary has taken on the case on behalf of Bao. He told
    theGrio, “Number one, the medical examiner’s office should be liable for the wrongful termination,” Gary said. “They retaliated against [Dr. Bao] because he stood up for what he believed in. He’s the scapegoat because from what he’s telling me, they didn’t want to win the case.
    They threw the case. But they didn’t expect to get the public backlash.”

    And Gary went on to say, “You’ve got professionals in the medical
    examiner’s department as well as the state attorney’s office, as well as the police department who clearly did not do their job. He gets fired and it’s just not right and because of that I’ve decided that we are gonna take his case and we will be filing a lawsuit against the medical examiner’s office and it could include the police department as well as the state attorney’s office.”

    “This is bigger than the money, and $100 million would not be enough
    to right this wrong,” Gary told theGrio, saying Bao was made to pay the price for a failed prosecution he says the state put little genuine
    effort into.

    When reached for comment, Dave Byron, Volusia County spokesman told theGrio. “As a standard practice, the County of Volusia does not comment on personnel matters,”

    Claim of indifference, hostility toward Trayvon Martin
    THERE IS MORE — – —WATCHIN’. . ..

    [Gotta “bounce” early. —-Back as soon as. . ♥ :>)] — -

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    So the new left wing/Emo Prog media narrative is: “If Obama doesn’t nominate Yellin, he’s being spiteful to the liberal community”. This narrative started with Ezra Klein, and now Paul Krugman and Norm Scheiber are running with it:

    “So Larry Summers has withdrawn from the Fed race. No profound thoughts
    here, except that it’s really, really hard to see how Obama can justify
    not picking Janet Yellen at this point. Nobody else is as qualified; any
    other choice would look like spite.”
    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/15/freedoms-just-another-word-for-nothing-left-to-lose/?smid=tw-NytimesKrugman&seid=auto

    2 questions re Yellen: Have Summers' allies in WH gone so negtive on her O wont pick her? Is O so pissed at lib mau-mauing he wont pick her?— Noam Scheiber (@noamscheiber) September 16, 2013

    And I’m watching a new narrative unfold on Twitter: “Obama should pick Christine Romer!”.

    • gn

      They gone learn to stop trying to run PBO’s WH. Millions of people did not vote for Paul Krugman and for damn sure didn’t vote for emoworld. With the Summers egg on their faces they need to sit down and stfu already. Do some good with their media perches and discuss the GOP’s disaster effects on the country. PBO will choose the person who he believes is the best fit for the position, period.

      • MsKitty

        Not to mention that it’s 2-terms PBO. If he doesn’t pick a candidate from the emo Christmas wish list, what are they gonna do? Not vote for him next time? Oh wait…

        • gn

          Seriously; a bunch of people who don’t have the managerial skills to be elected dog catcher, much less serve as the most intense executive in the land, incessantly nipping at the PBO’s heels and trying to “force” him into something with their nonstop tantrums. Like shut up already.

          http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/weinerfinger.jpg

      • conlakappa

        Or the healthcare act. Without a touch of irony, one of the bobbling heads on CBS This Morning [Norah or Charlie, I cannot recall] was talking about a lot of Americans not understanding what’s in the Act/goes into affect in two weeks. Really? If only there were, I dunno, media outlets that could keep citizenry informed.

    • jziglar

      First of all, when did anyone from the white house attack or go negative on Yellen ? The only negative stuff I’ve heard are the attacks on Larry Summers.

      These people always play the victim. Always disappointed and looking for betrayals. One of the main reasons why they are never happy even when a democrat is president.

      • gn

        Yup, they behave like toddlers and project their foolishness onto others.

  • Miranda

    Looks like the professional left got together and decided to birth this meme into reality in order to pat themselves on the back.

    Jonathan Chait ‏@jonathanchait1h
    The Summers revolt is the most potent exercise of liberal opposition power of Barack Obama’s presidency http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/09/how-larry-summers-paid-for-obamas-sins.html

    • gn

      They are just small, small people who need to feel important, need to feel in control, and most importantly, need to feel that the daddy in the WH is giving them ATTENTION. I just can’t…

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      Chait’s still trying to paint PBO as the president of the He-Man Woman Haters Club.

    • conlakappa

      Potent exercise? Don’t attempt to swing pipe here, Chait.

    • Aquagranny911

      Bite the cactus Chaity-Kathy! No body cares what you think.

      • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

        I’m so using that!

    • jziglar

      The thing is that President Obama nominated Yellen for a position at the Fed. So I don’t understand why they think Obama is some anti-progressive. Most of the people he has nominated are progressive.

    • Kennymack1971

      These EmoFarts are just pathetic. Yellen is qualified but I am almost hoping he doesn’t pick her just so I can watch the Emos heads explode.

  • Miranda

    Fashionistas
    me thinks I love this line before I can even see the whole thing.

    Burberry‏@Burberry
    Petals for the finale – The #Burberry Prorsum S/S14 show, shot with #iPhone5s #LFW pic.twitter.com/TD73Do4g8U
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUSfjblIIAAsPRP.jpg

    • Guns3000

      hotness

      • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

        The clothes or the models? :-P

        • Guns3000

          Clothes? Let me look again.

          • Aquagranny911

            LOL!!!

          • Alma98

            LMAO!

          • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

            LOL

          • Guns3000

            The great thing about being part of an online community full of women is I get see pics of fine women under auspices of fashion. On the next date I go on I’ll say,”Hey, did you happen to see the Burberry Prorsum S/S14 show?” I’ll get points for being well-rounded.

          • Alma98

            LOL…. Scandalous!

          • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

            Lawd…… LOL

          • Aquagranny911

            LOL & ♥! Go for it & best of luck!

          • EpiphanySweet

            Well played!

    • Aquagranny911

      I love the style & color of that first dress. I might even wear something like that if the bottom was sewed together. I don’t show that much skin anymore.

  • Tunisia

    Anybody know the color of the shooter?

    • conlakappa

      According to the link Sepia provided, black. He’s tall and bald.

      • Tunisia

        Interesting! Thank you!

  • Miranda

    This is a pic of the new Miss America during the talent competition. It makes me smile (well, really it makes me LOL at the thought of the real murikkans heads exploding – but then I smile at how wonderful and diverse the competition has become).

    http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1457001.1379304554!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/usa-missamerica.jpg

    • MsKitty

      Darn, if I knew there was some Bollywood involved I might have watched. Congrats to her.

      I was LMAO at some of the media trying to whitewash or ignore the origins of the special shoes that the contestants wear during the parade. For those not in the know the tradition was started by the Atlantic City gays in the ’70s. Back then the epicienter of the AC gay community was the southern side of New York Avenue, which ends at the boardwalk. During the parade when the contestants would get to that part of the boardwalk they were greeted with the chant of “SHOW US YOUR SHOES! SHOW US YOUR SHOES!” Thus the tradition. Not for nothing that was also the best spot to watch the parade because of all the snark and shade. Those were fun times.

      • qosine

        In Nashville, there’s a movie theater that blocks time
        for Bollywood movies. I’ve gone with Indian American friends. The movies are a blast – lush, romantic, musicals.

      • Aquagranny911

        Cool story! I didn’t know that but I don’t think I have ever watched a Miss America show.

    • rikyrah

      I could see their heads exploding..
      BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA

  • GreenLadyHere

    Miranda♥- — -UPDATE: – —

    – —-At least ten shot at Washington Navy Yard by gunman armed with AR15 rifle – and he’s still on the loose- –

    — — –Police have reported that three gunmen, including one wearing camouflage, have shot dead four people – two police officers – and injured another eight this morning at the Washington Naval Yard.

    Policehave said that at least one of the gunmen, who are said to be armed with AR-15 rifles, has been taken ‘down’, however it is not clear if he has been arrested or shot.

    Two gunmen remain at large and police have said that one of the shooters has been pinned down between the third and fourth floors in Building 197 on the grounds of the naval yard, although this has not been confirmed.

    One of the gunmen is not accounted for and hundreds of police, SWAT and FBI rapid response units have descended on the nation’s capital to deal with the situation.

    In addition the spokesman added that all of the people wounded are in critical condition and have been rushed to nearby hospitals

    Scroll Down for Video- – –PRAYIN’. . .

    — -ETA: — –Any WORD from the nr[ACISTS!???] –HAH!

  • Alma98

    Good morning all, I see we’re starting off this week with more madness.

    • Aquagranny911

      Dang! That is one scary looking sun! I’m going to crawl back in bed, lol.

      • Alma98

        Hey AG! Don’t be afraid of my black man sun lol. I thought he looked handsome, he has great lips lol.

        • Aquagranny911

          I do like the full lips but the eyes kind of spooked me. (Whispering…I like dark eyes, blue & light color eyes are kind of creepy to me)

          Don’t tell please because we do have blue eyes turn up in my Fam because of a Dutch ancestor.

          • Alma98

            LOL… There’s some blue & green eyes in hubby and my family. His sister eyes change from green to gray depending on her mood. I think we all know where those eye colors come from right lol.

          • Aquagranny911

            One of my young Granddaughters has those light blue, almost transparent eyes & they are real big in her little face. Sometimes she stares at me & I get a little spooked, lol.

            She is a beauty though.

          • Alma98

            LOL Do you remember the first actress they had on Cagney & Lacey with those weird eyes? I couldn’t watch her, she scared the crap outta me. Then they switched to Sharon Gless and I became hooked on the show.

          • Aquagranny911

            I don’t remember that first actress but I did like that show. I remember this one series on TV a few years ago where this guy who played a district attorney, who was a real goatfigger, btw had those eyes. I couldn’t watch it. he was too nasty & the eyes creeped me totally out!

          • Alma98

            MsKitty remembered her name, here she is, Meg Foster. I remember her from the series V too. You’ll probably recognize her.

          • Aquagranny911

            V, I remember that series & her!

          • Alma98

            She was perfect for that show with those eyes lol.

          • Aquagranny911

            I loved that show! Does Netflix have Beauty & the Beast? I couldn’t watch it at the time it was shown but a friend who was a total fan would record the episodes for me so I could watch later & then we would discus it.

            I couldn’t finish the series because my work & family demands ate up my life then. TV was definitely on my lowest burner. If it didn’t come on after 10:30 PM or wasn’t recorded, I probably did not see it.

            I thought B&B was a very creative, innovative show for that time. It would be interesting to see if I like it as much now as I did then.

          • Alma98

            Yep netflix has the show, they tried to remake it the this year. But nothing can top the original.

          • MsKitty

            Meg Foster. She was on a lot of Movies-of-the-Week in the ’70s. She kinda dropped off the radar in the ’80s though.

          • Alma98

            Yes that’s her she had the creepiest damn eyes, they looked like wolf eyes. There’s also another actress I used to confuse her with, with the same kind of eyes.

          • Aquagranny911

            “wolf eyes” My Tia rescued a dog some years ago that had those eyes, origins unknown because he turned up a stray at her casa.

            He was a very weird dog. He never barked, he would never come indoors no matter the weather. He was very protective of her & her grandchildren and any other stray animals she tended.

            The day of Tia’s funeral, he laid down on the patio by the chair she would sit in & howled. Then he got quiet & died.

          • Alma98

            Awww how sad AG, animals know when something is wrong. My dog lays around with you if you’re sick or licks at your wound if you’re hurt. Other wise he’s not a lap dog he’s very independent. I call him my little devil because he’s so mischievous, he’s a JRT.

    • rikyrah

      Good Morning, Alma.
      Beautiful day here. Broke out my sweater :)

      • Alma98

        Morning rikyrah, it sure is a beautiful chilly day. I’ve taken out my fall wear too. Have a great day!

      • TyrenM

        Broke out my hoodie. So now I really fit the description.

        • Alma98

          Be careful, lol.

    • GreenLadyHere

      - – Ohhh ALMA98 —-GOOD MORNTIN’♥- – – ***BIG HUG***
      How ABSOLUTELY LOVELY!- –Looks like it’s from the “MOTHERLAND”. :>)
      - –

      – —–THANK U —4 our –DAILY JOY. :>)- —

      Blessings 2 U/”Daughter Alma”. :>) — [I’m in class, :>)]

      • Alma98

        Morning GLH, glad you like my black man sun as I call it lol. Daughter is keeping hope alive and doing good. ***HUGS***

    • Miranda

      The Syria resolution ticked off both the right and left….so yes, madness this week will be on red alert.

      • Alma98

        Morning Miranda. I was saying to myself if the shooter is black he’ll get the Christopher Darden treatment. No maybe he has a mental illness, he’ll get more press cause he’s black. And on the emo front I’ve had it up to here with these people demands of them choosing who works for PBO and who he hangs out with. This shit is out of control, and it all starts from a racist place. They can’t stand that PBO is smarter than them.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Here’s another example of how we are still invisible in this country.

    Norm Scheiber, a senior editor at The New Republic, tweeted this:

    If it aint Yellen (or Geithner), hard to see who O picks. Not going to be Don Kohn, Greenspan's deputy. Ferguson never seemed real to me…— Noam Scheiber (@noamscheiber) September 16, 2013

    So, I asked him why Ferguson never felt real to him. His response:

    @PragObots been out of the game for a good 15 years…— Noam Scheiber (@noamscheiber) September 16, 2013

    But Ferguson was on the WH Recovery Advisory Board and is a member of the President’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, so how is he out of the game? Mind you, Scheiber wrote a book about PBO’s economic team, but it seems Ferguson slipped his mind.

    • Kennymack1971

      Typical. Anything or anyone outside of their bubble doesn’t feel real to them. I cannot stand these people.

    • Miranda

      “Ferguson never seemed real to me…”

      —————
      Translation: I discounted him because, well…he’s black.

      • jds09

        I got that in an evaluation at work once. They just can’t pinpoint what’s wrong with your work, it’s just a feeling. My communication style just didn’t “feel right”. When asked for an example she didn’t have one.

  • rikyrah

    Spandan’s on Ezra’s azz this morning.

    ……………..

    Ezra Klein’s Concern Trolling on Obama and the Federal Reserve

    Sunday, September 15, 2013 | Posted by Spandan C at 6:16 PM

    As soon as news hit the wires that Larry Summers has withdrawn his name from consideration for chair of the Federal Reserve, the media went on a full-spin mode, likely embarrassed that just Friday, they were pimping a Japanese newspaper report trumpeting Summers as the chosen one. Ezra Klein, who’d been part of the media build-up toward that ‘inevitability,’ if along with his opposition to it.

    This is where a little Obama Derangement Syndrome seeped in. Ezra, along with his peers in the beltway media – dude, get out a little from you Post office and the MSNBC studios; it’ll do you some good – wasn’t just convinced that Summers would be a bad choice, but that Obama would pick him just to take pleasure in some hippie-punching, i.e. just to piss off establishment media liberals like Klein.

    And then, it didn’t happen. Larry Summers withdrew. So one part of the narrative that Klein had taken so much care to be an integral part of fell apart. But the other part – the imaginary Obama determined to piss off liberals? Well, you can’t let that go as easily! It must – must – be shown that just because Summers is gone doesn’t mean Obama still won’t punch the hippies! So Ezra Klein penned a Sunday evening column, attacking a strawman Barack Obama and warning how horrible it would be if Obama were to deny Janet Yellen, the liberal favorite to head the Fed, the nomination just to settle political scores with the ideologue Left, who Ezra Klein clearly wishes to credit for the withdrawal of Larry Summers.

    ………….

    Just as the Left tied itself in a knot over President Obama’s “betrayal” that he nominated someone as qualified as Richard Cordray to head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (because by arrangement, Elizabeth Warren chose to set up the agency rather than head it), it is now doing the same thing over first an imaginary nomination to the Fed that didn’t happen and now another imaginary nomination that they see a strawman Obama as denying them out of pure spite. Take that attitude, phrase it as a question (oh, will he?), write it in the Post, and let the ethers go crazy.

    There you have your textbook concern trolling. It doesn’t suit you, Ezra.

    I get it. The media and its luminaries have a problem accepting the fact that President Blackenstein is smarter than them. They have trouble understanding that things may not always work the way they think they are, and they lack, for the love of all things holy, the humility to comprehend why their narratives, time after time, fall flat with this president. They always come out looking like fools who don’t know what they’re talking about – which they kind of are – and to cover up for that embarrassment, they start to concern troll.

    http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2013/09/ezra-kleins-concern-trolling-on-obama.html

  • rikyrah

    so, there are two shooters at the ShipYard?

  • rikyrah

    The right struggles to hide its disappointment with diplomatic progress
    By Steve Benen
    Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:42 AM EDT
    A couple of years ago, after the United States and its allies used military force to help remove the Gadhafi’s government from Libya, Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) issued one of my favorite Republican press releases ever. The two senators, who had eagerly spent months touting U.S. military action in Libya, issued a joint statement commending the “British, French, and other allies, as well as our Arab partners, especially Qatar and the UAE.”

    McCain and Graham eventually said Americans can be “proud of the role our country” played, but they nevertheless condemned the Obama administration’s “failure” to act in Libya the way the GOP senators preferred.

    It was striking at the time for its bitterness — the United States had achieved its strategic goals, but instead of celebrating or applauding Obama’s success, Republicans pouted and whined.

    It’s funny how history sometimes repeats itself. Over the course of six days, the Obama administration pushed Syria into the chemical weapons convention, helped create a diplomatic framework that will hopefully rid Syria of its stockpiles, successfully pushed Russia into a commitment to help disarm its own ally, quickly won support from the United Nations and our allies, and did all of this without firing a shot.

    Republicans are outraged.

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/09/16/20522033-the-right-struggles-to-hide-its-disappointment-with-diplomatic-progress?lite

    • Kennymack1971

      That’s what kills me about these EmoProgs taking a victory lap re: Summers. Dude wasn’t even nominated. This was all based on rumor and speculation. All Summers did was tell the President to not consider him for Fed Chair but these dumbfuck keyboard commandos act like they stopped Robert Bork from getting on the Supreme Court. EmoProgs stay being stupid.
      ( ETA This was meant as a response to Sepia’s post down thread)

  • GreenLadyHere

    Miranda♥– – -FROM MR. PRESIDENT:– – –

    — – – – – -http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/obama-updates-navy-yard-shooting-20267980 – – –

    — —-President Barack Obama is getting frequent briefings on a deadly shooting at the Washington Navy Yard.

    The White House says the president had several briefings about the unfolding situation by senior aides.

    The Navy says shots were fired Monday morning at the Naval Sea Systems Command headquarters, where about 3,000 people work. A Defense Department official is reporting several people were killed and as many as 10 wounded.

    The White House says Obama directed his team to stay in touch with the Navy, FBI and local officials.

  • rikyrah

    When winning an argument doesn’t seem to matter
    By Steve Benen
    Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:04 AM EDT

    It was five years ago yesterday that Lehman Brothers collapsed, marking the largest bankruptcy in American history and the informal start of the economic collapse often called the Great Recession. The White House sees the anniversary as a fine time to take stock of what’s happened since.

    President Obama is scheduled to deliver a Rose Garden speech today, though the shooting at the Washington Navy Yard may well change those plans. If the remarks proceed, however, the president reportedly hopes to highlight the Lehman anniversary “by trying to lay claim to an economic turnaround and warning Republicans against moves that he contends would risk a backslide.”

    Though polls show widespread public discontent over the fragile economic recovery, Obama has some trends he’ll no doubt be eager to tout: economic growth, millions of new jobs, an improving housing market, rising stock market indexes, etc. There were many who were convinced the president’s 2009 agenda would make the economy worse, and they’ve been proven wrong. The stimulus should have been bigger, and the focus on deficit reduction has been counter-productive, but the administration’s efforts have largely had a very positive effect.

    Indeed, Jon Chait had a terrific item the other day arguing that the grand argument over the Great Recession is over. The right lost.

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/09/16/20523908-when-winning-an-argument-doesnt-seem-to-matter?lite

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Just as we suspected. The media was trying to help Assad, but PBO threw salt in their game with getting Russia to push Syria to give up their chemical weapons.

    The ABC News Assad interview that wasn’t
    By HADAS GOLD | 9/16/13 11:16 AM EDT

    ABC’s George Stephanopoulos was supposed to interview Syrian
    President Bashar Assad last week — he even flew out to Beirut so he
    could drive to Damascus. Then he had the rug pulled out from under him.

    The interview was set to air the day after President Barack Obama’s
    national address and just a few days after Charlie Rose sat down with
    the Syrian president, Via the New York Times’ Brian Stelter:

    Mr. Stephanopoulos’s 11,000-mile journey demonstrated the Syrian
    government’s sometimes-effective, sometimes-confounding strategy toward communicating with the West through major news media outlets. Mr. Assad’s circle of media advisers is said to include two women, Bouthaina Shaaban, a Western-educated interpreter and author who has occasionally appeared on television to defend the government, and Luna Chebel, a former Al Jazeera anchor who arranged Charlie Rose’s interview earlier last week.

    MORE: http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/09/the-abc-news-assad-interview-that-wasnt-172726.html#.UjchNUpT-lM.twitter

    • TyrenM

      As y’all would say:
      BWHAA haa haa haa!

    • rikyrah

      told you – the President fucked all their little plans up, and they’re madder than a mutha

      • jds09

        They had a whole he said…then he said meme to launch. From Wolf asking PBO to talk to Assad thru the camera, to George trying to get PBO to call Putin and/or Assad a liar. School yard bullshit. Did anyone else notice George was wearing glasses? I think he was trying to look more intelligent.

        • Aquagranny911

          LOL at the “wearing glasses” He’s going to have to do a lot more than that…like find out where he lost the brain cells he dropped somewhere on his way through the birth canal!

    • MsKitty

      Nice try Snuffleupagus. Better luck next time.

  • itgurl_29

    I don’t know who’s writing for Boardwalk Empire, but after last night’s episode, there’s gotta be some black folk on that writing team. Like, for real!

    • rikyrah

      is it good?
      should I watch?

      • itgurl_29

        So far, season 4 has been really good. I thought season 3 was kind of a bore, but overall, the series is very good. Last night’s episode was on point.

        • rikyrah

          when they had the channel free a couple of weeks ago, I downloaded over 20 episodes. gonna give it a try.

          • Aquagranny911

            Who provides your cable? Ours never gives free stuff, although my DIL told me recently that if you call & threaten to cancel to Dish, ours will then give you a month of all kinds of free stuff. I may have to try that.

          • rikyrah

            Direct tv

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      That episode was all kinds of deep! I never imagined they would go there, but they sho’ did!

      • itgurl_29

        I was shocked. I had to watch it again to make sure I saw what I saw. I don’t think a show has EVER gone there.

    • Aquagranny911

      My Sis likes that show. She keeps telling me I should watch it but I can’t get it without paying my cable co extra & I am too cheap for that.

      • Lisa M

        You should ask your sister to let you use one of her email addresses if its connected with her cable. You would then be able to watch it on line. I know with Comcast you can do it.

  • rikyrah

    Right continues to draw hearts on Putin pictures
    By Steve Benen
    Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:06 AM EDT

    As we discussed earlier, last week was pretty productive for U.S. foreign policy. Over the course of six days, the Obama administration pushed Syria into the chemical weapons convention, helped create a diplomatic framework that will hopefully rid Syria of its stockpiles, successfully pushed Russia into a commitment to help disarm its own ally, quickly won support from the United Nations and our allies — all without firing a shot.

    Over the last 24 hours, the right has responded to these developments with one simple question: Isn’t Vladimir Putin dreamy?

    Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, yesterday:

    “I do think Putin is playing chess and we’re playing tick-tack-toe,” Mr. Rogers, Michigan Republican, said

    Rep. Mike McCaul (R-Texas), chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, yesterday:

    “Putin has now come forward as a leader, and he owns this now, and I believe that gives us the greatest ability to get this thing done.” […] “I quite frankly think what won the day here is that Putin looked in his own backyard and realized that the policies that he saw in Egypt and Libya [were] going to happen in Syria. … He decided that it was time to step in and fix the problem,” McCaul said. “I would … caution this administration to not do a victory lap here.”

    ………………..

    Obama got what he wanted last week, and then got more of what he wanted.

    Indeed, it was hard to miss the president gloating just a little on ABC yesterday, saying of Putin, “I welcome him being involved. I welcome him saying, ‘I will take responsibility for pushing my client, the Assad regime, to deal with these chemical weapons.'”

    As for the larger phenomenon of the right celebrating Putin as the new Republican hero, which we explored in detail last week, I think Rachel summarized the issue quite nicely on Friday’s show:

    “It`s one thing for the right to fall in love with its own politicians, to make Ronald Reagan a saint, to make Sarah Palin their collective fake girlfriend. But the president of Russia, you guys? He is not that into you.

    “Seriously, I know you guys hate President Obama, so it feels good to have a man-crush on somebody else, but this guy is a president of Russia. Zip it up, you guys, seriously. Have some respect.”

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/09/16/20523178-right-continues-to-draw-hearts-on-putin-pictures?lite

    • Kennymack1971

      It ain’t just the right Steve.

      • Miranda

        Thank you…the left over there singing sad love songs to him their damn selves.

  • rikyrah

    The Goalpost for Success Was the Disarmament of Syria’s WMD, So the U.S. Won an Historic Victory

    By Bob Cesca · September 16,2013

    Saturday marked an historic event future generations will read about in books. Over the weekend, Russia and the United States reached an accord over the question of the Syrian government’s stockpiles of chemical weapons, most recently used against civilians late last month.

    Whether the United States “won” depends entirely upon your definition of victory. Personally, I define victory in terms of the stated goal of the administration’s actions of the past three weeks: to destroy Syria’s chemical weapons to prevent another attack on Syrian civilians.

    On the other hand, Jeffrey Goldberg, in a Bloomberg column on Sunday, detailed his personal criteria for why he believes the crisis in Syria was a victory for Bashar al-Assad. And for Russian president Vladimir Putin. And, begrudgingly, for President Obama and the United States.

    Everyone gets a trophy. How millennial.

    One of the reasons for Assad’s victory, Goldberg wrote, is that the disarmament agreement would somehow forbid future Western military action against the regime. This isn’t entirely true. U.S. officials have been perfectly clear that military intervention is still possible, especially if, as Goldberg conceded, Assad were to snap and use chemical weapons again. Nevertheless, Goldberg wrote that Assad will continue to kill people the old-fashioned way and now we’re powerless to stop him.

    But intervening in the civil war and thwarting Assad’s military capabilities was never a goalpost beyond providing arms to moderate opposition forces.

    http://thedailybanter.com/2013/09/if-the-goalpost-for-success-was-the-disarmament-of-syrias-wmd-the-u-s-won-a-huge-victory/

  • Miranda

    Afternoon thread is up!

  • GreenLadyHere

    Miranda♥ – —-UPDATE: — -BLAH — annnd UN-ARMED- —

    – – — -SADLY–A —PROFILE 4 MURDER!- of “US!!—-

    – – -DA Releases Video Of Wendell Allen’s Murder By Cop [VIDEO]- — –

    – – – — Orleans District Attorney Leon Cannizarro has released video of the March 7, 2012 slaying of 20-year-old, unarmed Wendell Allen (pictured right), by New Orleans police officer Joshua Colclough, 28 (pictured left) and it clearly shows the shooting was unnecessary,reports Fox 8.

    “It was clear there was no justification for the shooting,” Cannizzaro said.
    THERE IS MORE — – –
    – – -I’m Sooo —-SICK annnd TIRED of THESE MURDERS – -of mainly —“OUR BLAH MALES!!”!!
    – – — C’MON –KARMA!!- – —

    — – –JUSTICE 4 TRAYVON♥ annd OTHERS♥- —

    – — – – -RIHEP- — -CONDOLENCES 2 ALL — 8**tears***