June 23, 2017

Monday Open Thread: Blacks and the Mormon Church

This week’s posts will highlight the small and often overlooked group of African American Mormons who have been members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) almost since its founding on April 6, 1830. Most Mormons are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church). The church has never kept official records on the race of its membership, so exact numbers of black members are unknown. Black people have been members of Mormon congregations since its foundation, although the church placed restrictions on proselytization efforts among black people. Before 1978, black membership was small. It has since grown, and in 1997, there were approximately 500,000 black members of the church (about 5% of the total membership), mostly in Africa, Brazil and the Caribbean. Black membership has continued to grow substantially, especially in West Africa, where two temples have been built. In the United States, 3% of members are black.

The initial mission of the church was to proselytize to the everyone, regardless of race or servitude status. When the church moved its headquarters to the slave state of Missouri, the church began changing its policies. In 1833, the church stopped admitting free people of color into the Church. In 1835, the official church policy stated that slaves would not be taught the gospel without their master’s consent, and the following year was expanded to not preach to slaves at all until after their owners were converted.

Jane Manning James had been born free and worked as a housekeeper in Joseph Smith’s home. When she requested the temple ordinances, John Taylor took her petition to the Quorum of the Twelve, but her request was denied. When Wilford Woodruff became president of the church, he compromised and allowed Manning to be sealed to the family of Smith as a servant. This was unsatisfying to Manning as it did not include the saving ordinance of the endowment, and she repeated her petitions. She died in 1908. Church president Joseph F. Smith honored her by speaking at her funeral.

Other notable early black LDS Church members included Green Flake, the slave of John Flake, a convert to the church and from whom he got his name. He was baptized as a member of the LDS Church at age 16 in the Mississippi River, but remained a slave. Following the death of John Flake, in 1850 his widow gave Green Flake to the church as tithing. Some members of the black side of the Flake family say that Brigham Young emancipated their ancestor in 1854, however at least one descendant states that Green was never freed. Samuel D. Chambers was another early African American pioneer. He was baptized secretly at the age of thirteen when he was still a slave in Mississippi. He was unable to join the main body of the church and lost track of them until after the Civil War. He was thirty-eight when he had saved enough money to emigrate to Utah with his wife and son.

Early Mormonism had a range of doctrines related to race with regards to black people of African descent. References to black people, their social condition during the 19th century, and their spiritual place in Western Christianity as well as in Mormon scripture was complicated.

From the beginning, black people have been members of Mormon congregations, and Mormon congregations have always been interracial. When the Mormons migrated to Missouri, they encountered the pro-slavery sentiments of their neighbors. Joseph Smith upheld the laws regarding slaves and slaveholders, and affirmed the curse of Ham as placing his descendants into slavery, “to the shame and confusion of all who have cried out against the South.” With that being said, Smith still remained abolitionist in his actions and doctrines. After the Mormons were expelled from Missouri, Smith took an increasingly strong anti-slavery position, and a few black men were ordained to the LDS priesthood.

The first reference to dark skin as a curse and mark from God in Latter Day Saint writings can be found in the The Book of Mormon, published in the late 1820s. It refers to a group of people called the Lamanites and states that when they rebelled against God they were cursed with “a skin of blackness” (2 Nephi 5:21).

The mark of blackness was placed upon the Lamanites so the Nephites “might not mix and believe in incorrect traditions which would prove their destruction” (Alma 3:7–9). The Book of Mormon records the Lord as forbidding miscegenation between Lamanites and Nephites (2 Nephi 5:23) and saying they were to stay “separated from thee and thy seed [Nephites], from this time henceforth and forever, except they repent of their wickedness and turn to me that I may have mercy upon them” (Alma 3:14).

However, 2 Nephi 26:33 states: “[The Lord] inviteth them all to come unto him and partake of his goodness; and he denieth none that come, black and white, bond and free, male and female…and all are alike unto God, both Jew and Gentile.” Although the Lamanites are labelled as wicked, they actually became more righteous than the Nephites as time passed (Helaman 6).

Throughout the Book of Mormon narrative, several groups of Lamanites did repent and lose the curse. The Anti-Nephi-Lehies or Ammonites “open[ed] a correspondence with them [Nephites], and the curse of God did no more follow them” (Alma 23:18). There is no reference to their skin color being changed. Later, the Book of Mormon records that an additional group of Lamanites converted and that “their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites… and they were numbered among the Nephites, and were called Nephites” (3 Nephi 2:15–16).

The curse was also put on others who rebelled. One group of Nephites, called Amlicites “had come out in open rebellion against God; therefore it was expedient that the curse should fall upon them”. (Alma 3:18) The Amlicites then put a mark upon themselves. At this point, the author stops the narrative to say “I would that ye should see that they brought upon themselves the curse; and even so doth every man that is cursed bring upon himself his own condemnation.”(Alma 3:19) Eventually, the Lamanites “had become, the more part of them, a righteous people, insomuch that their righteousness did exceed that of the Nephites, because of their firmness and their steadiness in the faith.” (Helaman 6:1)

The Book of Mormon did not countenance any form of curse-based discrimination. It stated that the Lord “denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female; and he remembereth the heathen; and all are alike unto God, both Jew and Gentile”. (2 Nephi 26:33). In fact, prejudice against people of dark skin was condemned more than once, as in this example:

O my brethren, I fear that unless ye shall repent of your sins that their skins will be whiter than yours, when ye shall be brought with them before the throne of God. Wherefore, a commandment I give unto you, which is the word of God, that ye revile no more against them because of the darkness of their skins; neither shall ye revile against them because of their filthiness…” (Jacob 3:8–9).

In 1833, Joseph Smith recorded the following, as verse 79 and 80 of what would become section 101 of the Doctrine and Covenants (D&C).

79 Therefore, it is not right that any man should be in bondage one to another.

80 And for this purpose have I established the Constitution of this land, by the hands of wise men whom I raised up unto this very purpose, and redeemed the land by the shedding of blood.

In the summer of 1833 W. W. Phelps published an article in the church’s newspaper, seeming to invite free black people into the state to become Mormons, and reflecting “in connection with the wonderful events of this age, much is doing towards abolishing slavery, and colonizing the blacks, in Africa.”[4] Outrage followed Phelps’ comments, (Roberts [1930] 1965, p. 378.) and he was forced to reverse his position, which he claimed was “misunderstood”, but this reversal did not end the controversy, and the Mormons were violently expelled from Jackson County, Missouri five months later in December 1833.

Coincidentally, on December 16, 1833, Joseph Smith dictated a passage in the Doctrine and Covenants stating that “it is not right that any man should be in bondage to another.” (D&C Section 101:79).

In 1835, the Church issued an official statement indicating that because the United States government allowed slavery, the Church would not “interfere with bond-servants, neither preach the gospel to, nor baptize them contrary to the will and wish of their masters, nor meddle with or influence them in the least to cause them to be dissatisfied with their situations in this life, thereby jeopardizing the lives of men.” (D&C Section 134:12).

On February 6, 1835, an assistant president of the church, W. W. Phelps, wrote a letter theorizing that the curse of Cain survived the deluge by passing through the wife of Ham, son of Noah, who according to Phelps was a descendant of Cain. (Messenger and Advocate 1:82) In addition, Phelps introduced the idea of a third curse upon Ham himself for “marrying a black wife”. (Messenger and Advocate 1:82) This black wife, according to Phelps, was not just a descendant of Cain, but one of the pre-flood “people of Canaan”, not directly related to the Biblical Canaanites after the flood.

The Mormons have has a mixed history concerning blacks and slavery.  They vaciliated back and forth between their perceived  inferiority of blacks and the membership in the church. Below is how their stance evolves from 1838-1844.

In 1838, Joseph Smith had the following conversation:

“Elder Hyde inquired about the situation of the negro. I replied, they came into the world slaves mentally and physically. Change their situation with the whites, and they would be like them. They have souls, and are subjects of salvation. Go into Cincinnati or any city, and find an educated negro, who rides in his carriage, and you will see a man who has risen by the powers of his own mind to his exalted state of respectability. The slaves in Washington are more refined than many in high places, and the black boys will take the shine off many of those they brush and wait on. Elder Hyde remarked, “Put them on the level, and they will rise above me.” I replied, if I raised you to be my equal, and then attempted to oppress you, would you not be indignant? […] Had I anything to do with the negro, I would confine them by strict law to their own species, and put them on a national equalization.” (History of the Church, Volume 5, p. 216)

It should be noted here that in 1838, and throughout the 19th century the term “species” was borrowed and commonly used to imply that the black population was inferior.[8] The biological use of the term species was first defined in 1686. [9]

In 1838, Joseph Smith answered the following question while en route from Kirtland to Missouri, as follows: “Are the Mormons abolitionists? No … we do not believe in setting the Negroes free.” (Smith 1977, p. 120)

By 1839 there were about a dozen black members in the Church. Nauvoo, Illinois was reported to have 22 black members, including free and slave, between 1839–1843 (Late Persecution of the Church of Latter-day Saints, 1840).

“In the evening debated with John C. Bennett and others to show that the Indians have greater cause to complain of the treatment of the whites, than the negroes or sons of Cain” (History of the Church 4:501.)

Beginning in 1842, Smith made known his increasingly strong anti-slavery position. In March 1842, he began studying some abolitionist literature, and stated, “it makes my blood boil within me to reflect upon the injustice, cruelty, and oppression of the rulers of the people. When will these things cease to be, and the Constitution and the laws again bear rule?” (History of the Church, 4:544).

On February 7, 1844, Joseph Smith wrote his views as a candidate for president of the United States. The anti-slavery plank of his platform called for a gradual end to slavery by the year 1850 . His plan called for the government to buy the freedom of slaves using money from the sale of public lands.

“My cogitations, like Daniel’s have for a long time troubled me, when I viewed the condition of men throughout the world, and more especially in this boasted realm, where the Declaration of Independence ‘holds these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness;’ but at the same time some two or three millions of people are held as slaves for life, because the spirit in them is covered with a darker skin than ours.” (History of the Church, Vol.6, Ch.8, pp. 197–198)

Tomorrow I will start highlighting some the church’s first black members.

  • rikyrah

    Got to say, I don’t understand this group of Black folks, so this week will be interesting.

    • isonprize

      @rikyrah:disqus You took the thought RIGHT OUTTA MY BRAIN!! LOLOLOL

  • isonprize

    Good morning POU, ALWAYS dropping the knowledge!!!

    • sagittarius

      Good morning isonprize!

    • BoomerGal

      Good morning, Isonprize!

    • MsKitty

      Morning isonprize

    • rikyrah

      Morning isonprize

  • aleth

    Morning, is it that they don’t have a strategy or they also have a vested interest in protecting white privilege.

    https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/843660986674569216

    • sagittarius

      Good morning aleth!

    • BoomerGal

      Morning, aleth!

    • goldenstar

      It just may be your level of patience and or tolerance for organizing. The Senate has had time to prepare so stay tuned. Also, all of us should be prepared to organize as the campaign rolls. out.

      • aleth

        Glad you have faith in them. I have not seen anything from dems in dealing with Dolt to indicate there is a plan

        • goldenstar

          Schumer has made some comments that indicates that they have discussed. Nonetheless, there is no reason for me or any of us to sit on sidelines. Get active and stay that way.

  • aleth

    Comey is letting him go.. which explains this tweet..

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/843776582825267201

    • caribbeanobserver

      He gets talking points from Fox…then he twitters his talking points to his base and the Republicans..and round and round they go.

  • sagittarius

    Good morning rikyrah!

    Sending positive thoughts to you!

  • sagittarius

    Good morning lamh!

  • aleth

    This pissed me off this morning.. when radio host don’t check source or read then misinform their listeners

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BR3EcDCBmCI/?taken-by=oldmanebro

    The legislation pushed and signed by Obama while the funds were blocked by GOP. Now its TRUMP EPA grants…. something that was legislatively done. So expect to see black folk saying Obama ain’t do nothing and pointing this out as Dolt.

    • Miranda

      And we will point back that this is bullshit to believe these are “Trump” era grants.

    • MonieTalks

      They will pull the same thing with infrastructure spending.

  • sagittarius

    Good morning Fam!

    I hope everyone is engaging in self-care. Thought I would have to drop off Dad at his doctor’s appointment this morning, but it’s not today. Up 45-60 minutes earlier than usual so I could get that done. Will be leaving for the office in about 10 minutes.

    Have a glorious day!

    • BoomerGal

      Good Morning, Sag! Blessings and have a good one!

      • sagittarius

        You, too, BG!

    • goldenstar

      Sag! Here’s to a great day and that your dad is doing just fine!

      • sagittarius

        G!!!

        Howdy! Haven’t forgotten we need to hang…

    • MsKitty

      Hey Sag

      • sagittarius

        Hey MsKitty!

  • BoomerGal

    Another reason they can miss me with “feminism.”

    Mike Pence to receive ‘Working for Women’ award from Kellyanne Conway’s conservative women’s group

    Source: RawStory

    SARAH K. BURRIS
    19 MAR 2017 AT 23:10 ET

    Vice President Mike Pence will be awarded the “Working for Women” honor from the Independent Women’s Forum Wednesday despite years of working to hurt women.

    According to a release sent to New York Magazine, “the award recognizes an individual who values free markets, works to create a more dynamic and innovative work world, and celebrates the valuable contributions women make to society,” Jezebel reported Sunday.

    Pence was the real extremist on the ticket with a long list of victims. After fighting to take down Planned Parenthood in Congress for Indiana, he became governor and took it to a state level.

    Pence led the GOP’s efforts to destroy Planned Parenthood with six pieces of legislation in just six years. He went so far as to threaten to shut down the government if Planned Parenthood continued to be funded. He not only cut needle exchange programs to provide clean needles to addicts, he then worked to shut down clinics where people could get free HIV/AIDS testing. The result was an HIV outbreak, which he ignored for two months before being forced to act.

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    Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/mike-pence-to-receive-working-for-women-award-from-kellyanne-conways-conservative-womens-group/

    • Miranda

      And man who calls his wife “mother”..of course he’s getting this award.

    • caribbeanobserver

      Really? Mike Pence?! These folks really live in an alternate universe.

    • 7thangel

      why would this trash have any bearing on anybody feelings on feminism?

      that’s like saying a group run by jesse lee patterson and a cadre of uncle ruckus makes one question black pride,civil rights, and the fight against anti-blackness.

      • BoomerGal

        It’s who he’s getting the award from, Conway’s feminist group that I was addressing.

        • conlakappa

          That’s 7th’s point though. Or did we miss news of Conway being the face, voice, or hands of feminism?

          • BoomerGal

            She’s representative of the typical white feminist. That’s all.

          • conlakappa

            In what respect? There are at least two of us missing that connection/the basis for your assertion.

          • 7thangel

            no she ain’t. there are some serious issues with white feminism but ole kelly anne is not a feminist in any way, shape, or form.

            she actively works against feminism and women in general. and this is exactly like those ‘black groups’, latino groups’, ‘gay groups’, etc, run by and for the oppressors to actively fight to stop any progress and to help in propaganda

          • BoomerGal

            She says she’s not a feminist in the left sense of the word but yet advocates equal pay and woman in the WH.
            She calls it, “Conservative feminism.”

            “On Wednesday night, Kellyanne Conway explained her unusual week-long absence from the TV airwaves by citing her four children. And at the end of her discussion, which kicked off the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) on Thursday morning, she implored women to demand equal pay.

            In the middle of it all, though, Conway said she doesn’t really identify as a feminist.”

            “It’s difficult for me to call myself a feminist in the classic sense because it seems to be very anti-male and it certainly is very pro-abortion, in this context,” she said. “And I’m neither anti-male or pro-abortion.”

            Conway then offered her own brand of feminism, which stands almost diametrically opposed to how liberals have come to define it: “There’s an individual feminism, if you will, that you make your own choices. … I look at myself as a product of my choices, not a victim of my circumstances. That’s really to me what conservative feminism, if you will, is all about.”

          • 7thangel

            again, not a feminist. just another example of the way these wingnuts attempt to redefine and use their hatred by using ‘pc’ wordspeak or co-opting from their enemies

            jesse lee patterson and other like him can claim black pride, but we damn well know they have none. but they will use certain things (i.e. self sufficiency and not relying on the white man) along with anti-black shit to muddy shit up and claim their bullshit is really black pride. but it ain’t. then they create a tax exempt group/think tank/etc, (or like jesse’s group, have it created by white supremacists) and proceed to propagandize and grift

            in the cryptkeepers case, her claiming to be for equal pay while actively working against and working for those fighting against equal pay is just another example of the lies that fly out of miss anne’s mouth whenever she opens it.

  • BoomerGal

    Good Morning, rikyrah

  • BoomerGal

    Good Morning, POU!

    • MsKitty

      Morning BoomerGal

      • BoomerGal

        Morning, MsKitty

    • rikyrah

      Morning BoomerG

    • sagittarius

      Morning BG!

      • BoomerGal

        Morning, SAG!!!

  • BoomerGal

    Morning, lamh

  • BoomerGal

    Good grief……………….

    Trump says Dems ‘made up’ Russian story

    Source: AP

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on a congressional inquiry into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election (all times local):

    7 a.m.

    President Donald Trump is accusing Democrats of fabricating allegations of election interference against Russia and creating more “fake news.”

    His tweets came just hours before a congressional hearing on Russia. The House Intelligence Committee will hear from FBI Director James Comey on whether U.S. officials believe Russia tried to bolster Trump’s chances in the election and if there were any connections between Moscow and Trump’s campaign aides.

    Trump tweeted Monday: “The Democrats made up and pushed the Russian story as an excuse for running a terrible campaign. Big advantage in Electoral College & lost!”

    Read more: https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-03-20/the-latest-trump-says-dems-made-up-russian-story

    • aleth

      Why even address his tweets. Idiots. Ain’t no good reporter in all these bunch

      • caribbeanobserver

        Reporters feel they have to write something,say something, comment on anything ..so they do.

  • Mornin’!

    • rikyrah

      Morning Sepia

    • sagittarius

      Morning Sepia!

    • Alma98

      Morning Sepia!

  • goldenstar

    Gotta read the whoooooole article because it’s specific, pointed, and gooooood.

    No Sympathy for the Hillbilly

    Democrats need to stop trying to feel everyone’s pain, and hold on to their own anger.

    On the morning after, traumatized liberals set out hunting for answers as if Election Day were 9/11 all over again. The ubiquitous question of 15 years earlier — “Why do they hate us?” — was repurposed for Donald Trump’s demolition of the political order. Why did white working-class voters reject Hillary Clinton and the Democrats? Why did they fall for a billionaire con man? Why do they hate us?

    There were, of course, many other culprits in the election’s outcome. Comey, the Kremlin, the cable-news networks that beamed Trump 24/7, Jill Stein, a Clinton campaign that (among other blunders) ignored frantic on-the-ground pleas for help in Wisconsin and Michigan, and the candidate herself have all come in for deserved public flogging. But the attitude among some liberals toward the actual voters who pulled the trigger on Election Day has been more indulgent, equivocal, and forgiving. Perhaps those white voters without a college degree who preferred Trump by 39 percentage points — the most lopsided margin in the sector pollsters define as “white working class” since the 1980 Ronald Reagan landslide — are not “deplorables” who “cling to guns and religion” after all. Perhaps, as Joe Biden enthused, “these are good people, man!” who “aren’t racist” and “aren’t sexist.” Perhaps, as Mark Lilla argued in an influential essay in the New York Times, they were turned off mostly by the Democrats’ identity politics and rightfully felt excluded from Clinton’s stump strategy of name-checking every ethnicity, race, and gender in the party’s coalition except garden-variety whites. Perhaps they should hate us.

    While many, if not most, of those in #TheResistance of the Democratic base remain furious at these voters, the party’s political class and the liberal media Establishment are making a concerted effort to convert that rage into empathy. “Democrats Hold Lessons on How to Talk to Real People” was the headline of a Politico account of the postelection retreat of the party’s senators, who had convened in the pointedly un-Brooklyn redoubt of Shepherdstown, West Virginia. Democrats must heed the rural white enclaves, repeatedly instructs the former Pennsylvania governor and MSNBC regular Ed Rendell. Nicholas Kristof has pleaded with his readers to understand that “Trump voters are not the enemy,” a theme shared by the anti-Trump conservative David Brooks. “We’re Driving to the Inauguration With a Trump Supporter” was the “Kumbaya”-tinged teaser on the Times’ mobile app for a roundup of on-the-ground chronicles of these exotic folk invading Washington. Even before Trump’s victory, commentators were poring through fortuitously timed books like Nancy Isenberg’s sociocultural history White Trash and J. D. Vance’s memoir, Hillbilly Elegy, seeking to comprehend and perhaps find common ground with the Trumpentariat. As measured by book sales and his appeal to much the same NPR-ish audience, Vance has become his people’s explainer-in-chief, the Ta-Nehisi Coates, if you will, of White Lives Matter.

    The outbreak of Hillbilly Chic among liberals is an inverted bookend to Radical Chic, the indelible rubric attached by Tom Wolfe in 1970 (in this magazine) to white elites in Manhattan then fawning over black militants. In both cases, the spectacle of liberals doting on a hostile Other can come off like self-righteous slumming. But for those of us who want to ring down the curtain on the Trump era as quickly as possible, this pandering to his voters raises a more immediate and practical concern: Is it a worthwhile political tactic that will actually help reverse Republican rule? Or is it another counterproductive detour into liberal guilt, self-flagellation, and political correctness of the sort that helped blind Democrats to the gravity of the Trump threat in the first place? While the right is expert at channeling darker emotions like anger into ruthless political action, the Democrats’ default inclination is still to feel everyone’s pain, hang their hats on hope, and enter the fray in a softened state of unilateral disarmament. “Stronger Together,” the Clinton-campaign slogan, sounded more like an invitation to join a food co-op than a call to arms. After the debacle of 2016, might the time have at last come for Democrats to weaponize their anger instead of swallowing it? Instead of studying how to talk to “real people,” might they start talking like real people? No more reading from wimpy scripts concocted by consultants and focus groups. (Clinton couldn’t even bring herself to name a favorite ice-cream flavor at one campaign stop.) Say in public what you say in private, even at the risk of pissing people off, including those in your own party. Better late than never to learn the lessons of Trump’s triumphant primary campaign that the Clinton campaign foolishly ignored.

    This is a separate matter from the substantive question of whether the party is overdue in addressing the needs of the 21st-century middle class, or what remains of it. The answer to that is yes, as a matter of morality, policy, and politics. Americans below the top of the heap, with or without college degrees and regardless of race, have been ill served by the axis of Robert Rubin, Lawrence Summers, and the Davos-class donor base that during Bill Clinton’s presidency helped grease the skids for the 2008 economic collapse and allowed the culprits to escape from the wreckage unscathed during Barack Obama’s. That Hillary Clinton pocketed $21.6 million by speaking to banks and other corporate groups after leaving the State Department is just one hideous illustration of how the Democrats opened the door for Trump to posture as an anti-Establishment champion of “the forgotten men and women.” In the bargain, she gave unenthused Democrats a reason to turn to a third-party candidate or stay home.

    But it’s one thing for the Democratic Party to drain its own swamp of special interests and another for it to waste time and energy chasing unreachable voters in the base of Trump’s electorate. For all her failings, Clinton received 3 million more votes than Trump and lost the Electoral College by the mere 77,744 votes that cost her the previously blue states of Michigan (which she lost by .2 of a percentage point), Wisconsin (.8 point), and Pennsylvania (.7 point). Of the 208 counties in America that voted for Obama twice and tipped to Trump in 2016, more than three-quarters were in states Clinton won anyway (some by a landslide, like New York) or states that have long been solidly red.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/frank-rich-no-sympathy-for-the-hillbilly.html

    • Town

      Non-white people aren’t real.

      • Miranda

        Apparently not, especially non-white working class. They don’t exist at all.

    • conlakappa

      Hubby got in trouble with his sister-in-law last week for using the term hillbilly.

    • MonieTalks

      I have been itching to go on a Twitter rant in light of the “Bernie is the most popular politician who hugged some West Virginians” bullshit that is pervasive. All these white progressives can go to hell with this WWC, Hillbillies matter too kick they are on. Climate change progress was piss poor under PBO according to them….yet they are overly sympathetic and busy making excuses for those who refuse to look beyond the dirty coal industry.

      I stumbled upon this article from 2012…and when I tell you there is so much foolishness we remember from PBO’s terms…but so much we forget. like this ( at least I did):

      Texas inmate wins 41% of vote vs. Obama in West Virginia primary

      President Obama has never been wildly popular in West Virginia, but Tuesday’s Democratic primary marked the state’s sharpest rejection of the president yet. A Texas prisoner, listed as Inmate No. 11593-051, received 69,766 votes, a surprising 41% of the total, showing that many West Virginians would vote for just about anyone other than Obama, regardless of their status as a felon. Obama still won the primary, with 59% of the vote.

      Keith Judd, the prisoner in question, is currently serving a 17½-year sentence at the Federal Correctional Institution in Texarkana after being sentenced for extortion in an altercation with the University of New Mexico.

      By receiving more than 15% of the vote in West Virginia, Judd is technically allowed at least one state delegate, though no one has yet stepped forward to head to the Democratic National Convention for him. Tuesday’s face-off wasn’t the first time both Judd and Obama have been on the ballot, though, as Judd finished third in the 2008 Idaho primary behind both Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton with 1.7% of the vote.

      http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may/09/news/la-pn-texas-inmate-wins-41-of-the-vote-against-obama-in-wv-primary-20120509

    • Alma98

      And yet There are still people in the comments caping for them. smh

    • nellcote

      Frank Rich, ever the drama critic.

  • BoomerGal

    Heh.

    Former Law Student: Gorsuch Told Class Women ‘Manipulate’ Maternal Leave

    Source: NPR

    March 20, 201712:15 AM ET

    ARNIE SEIPEL and NINA TOTENBERG

    A former law student of Judge Neil Gorsuch, President Trump’s nominee for the Supreme Court, alleges that in a course she took from Gorsuch at the University of Colorado Law School last year, the judge told his class that employers, specifically law firms, should ask women seeking jobs about their plans for having children and implied that women manipulate companies starting in the interview stage to extract maternity benefits.

    The concerns were shared in a letter, posted Sunday evening by the National Employment Lawyers Association and the National Women’s Law Center, written by Jennifer Sisk, a 2016 graduate of the University of Colorado Law School. It was sent on Friday to the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and Ranking Member Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.

    In an interview with NPR, Sisk says she wrote the letter “so that the proper questions could be asked during his confirmation hearings,” which begin Monday before the Senate Judiciary Committee. Other students in the class have not come forward publicly.

    On April 19, 2016, Sisk wrote, Judge Gorsuch used a hypothetical from the prepared material for the class, in which a female law student applies for jobs at law firms because the student has a large debt to pay off. The student also intends to have a family with her husband.

    Read more: http://www.npr.org/2017/03/20/520743555/former-law-student-gorsuch-told-class-women-manipulate-maternal-leave

    • Town

      None of this matter.

      Does anyone think the deplorable women who idolize the Duggars and Sarah Palin care about the plight of Fancy Nancy at the Law Firm?

      Does Mary Jo the Hobby Lobby cashier care about the plight of Fancy Nancy?

      White female Trump voters vote how their husbands tell them to vote. White male Trump voters don’t care about maternity leave and their wives don’t either.

  • Miranda

    This is insane and should be investigated further – there are state law schools in Florida – hell The Univ of Florida law school is an hour away from Bethune Cookman, why are they partnering with this for-profit school in Arizona?!?!?!?!
    ———————
    How to Con Black Law Students: A Case Study
    MARCH 20, 2017

    This month, Bethune-Cookman, a historically black university in Daytona Beach, Fla., announced an “affiliation” deal with Arizona Summit Law School, a for-profit institution in Phoenix. A joint scholarship program will send Bethune-Cookman students and students from other historically black colleges to the law school. Other programs, including intensive LSAT prep classes, have been announced as part of the deal.

    Bethune-Cookman doesn’t have a law school, so it makes sense that it would want to partner with an accredited institution. But there’s a problem: Arizona Summit, formerly known as the Phoenix School of Law, may be accredited, but only 25 percent of its graduates passed the Arizona bar exam on their first try last year.

    That’s an embarrassing result for any school. To compare, the law school at Arizona State posted a 77 percent pass rate for first-time test takers of the same bar. Statewide, 64 percent of first-time test takers passed. In other words, Arizona Summit’s results weren’t even in the ballpark of respectability.

    Arizona Summit can’t blame the aptitude of its students for its low bar passage rate. The median LSAT score at Arizona Summit is 143, which is on the low end, but about the same as the median score at Florida A&M University College of Law. Still, over half of Florida A&M law school graduates passed the Florida bar last summer. And Florida A&M charges about $14,000 in yearly in-state tuition, a fraction of the cost of Arizona Summit, which charges about $45,000 in tuition and fees per year. That doesn’t include the cost for Bethune-Cookman students to move from Florida to Phoenix.

    So why is this an appropriate affiliation deal? Edison Jackson, the president of Bethune-Cookman, said of Arizona Summit, “Together, we aim to be a leading force in disrupting a legacy of exclusion that has persisted into the 21st century.” Officials from both schools claim that their goal is to increase “diversity” in legal education.

    But encouraging African-American students to attend Arizona Summit will not help them achieve their goals. It will hobble them. Going to a law school that doesn’t prepare most of its students to pass the bar is not an “opportunity,” unless “opportunity” means being saddled with debt that you’ll spend the rest of your life trying to pay back.

    more here: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/opinion/how-to-con-black-law-students-a-case-study.html

    • Kennymack1971

      This is jacked up.

    • rikyrah

      Uh uh uh

    • TyrenM

      Between Betsy DeVos and UNCF Michael whatshisname taking Koch money…it’s been one.

    • rikyrah

      Hopefully this article is spread far and wide about this phuckery.

    • nellcote

      follow the money…

  • Miranda

    Stephen Hawking: ‘I may not be welcome’ in Trump’s America
    Mon March 20, 2017

    (CNN)British scientist Stephen Hawking fears he “may not be welcome” in the United States now that Donald Trump is President.

    In an interview with ITV’s Good Morning Britain on Monday, Hawking described President Trump’s election as “a definite swing to a right-wing” and a “more authoritarian approach.”

    He was especially critical of the appointment of Scott Pruitt, “a man who does not believe that carbon dioxide causes climate change,” as head of the Environmental Protection Agency.
    “He should replace Scott Pruitt at the Environment Protection Agency,” Hawking told ITV.

    “Climate change is one of the great dangers we face, and it’s one we can prevent,” he said.
    “It affects America badly, so tackling it should win votes for [Trump’s] second term, God forbid.”

    He suggested that the appointment of Pruitt, as well as the promise of a border wall and the sanctioning of two oil pipelines, are designed to “satisfy [Trump’s] electorate, who are neither liberal nor that well-informed.”

    “I have many friends and colleagues [in the US] and it is still a place I like and admire in many ways,” he said, “but I fear that I may not be welcome.”

    more here: http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/20/europe/stephen-hawking-trump-climate/

    • Admiral_Komack

      Naw, buddy.
      You wouldn’t be welcome.
      You’re intelligent.

      • BoomerGal

        They think science is a myth.

  • BoomerGal

    New York attorney general hires top corruption watchdog to challenge Trump

    Source: RawStory

    TRAVIS GETTYS
    20 MAR 2017 AT 06:56 ET

    The New York attorney general has hired a top public-corruption prosecutor to focus on President Donald Trump.

    Attorney General Eric Scheiderman, a Democrat, tapped prosecutor Howard Master to serve as senior enforcement counsel and work on cases involving Trump and his administration, as well as other high-level public corruption cases, reported the Wall Street Journal.

    Master previously served under former Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara, who was fired last week after refusing the president’s order to resign along with 46 others appointed by former President Barack Obama.

    Scheiderman sued Trump in 2013 for fraud related to his Trump University real estate courses, which the president agreed to settle for $25 million shortly after his election.

    Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/new-york-attorney-general-hires-top-corruption-watchdog-to-challenge-trump/

  • BoomerGal

    Supreme Court rejects U.S. senator’s bid to escape corruption case

    Source: Reuters

    | Mon Mar 20, 2017 | 9:53am EDT

    By Andrew Chung | WASHINGTON

    The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday cleared the way for prosecutors to pursue bribery charges against Democratic Senator Robert Menendez of New Jersey, rejecting his bid to have the case involving donations from a Florida ophthalmologist thrown out.

    The justices left in place a lower court’s refusal to dismiss a corruption indictment against Mendendez, who had argued that a provision in the U.S. Constitution shielded him from prosecution.

    In 2015, a grand jury indicted Menendez on charges of bribery, fraud and with making false statements in his annual financial disclosure forms by failing to list gifts he received from a wealthy friend, Florida ophthalmologist Salomon Melgen.

    Prosecutors allege Menendez accepted campaign donations and gifts, including a stay at a Caribbean villa and private jet flights, from Melgen in exchange for interceding in various matters on his friend’s behalf, including an $8.9 million Medicare billing dispute. Menendez and Melgen have pleaded not guilty to the charges they faced in the 22-count indictment.

    Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-menendez-idUSKBN16R1GO

  • Miranda

    But remember, they’re blaming the Dems for holding up non existent nominees.
    https://twitter.com/politico/status/843829776284614658

    • BoomerGal

      “No big deal.”

    • MonieTalks

      It’s intentional. Decimate the administrative state.

      • aleth

        Yes monie!

  • MsKitty

    Morning lamh

  • MsKitty

    Morning rikyrah

    • rikyrah

      Morning MsKitty

  • Admiral_Komack

    -Our long, national nightmare is OVER!

    NFL: International Media Member Had Tom Brady’s Stolen Super Bowl Jerseys

    According to a statement just released by the NFL, Tom Brady’s Super Bowl LI jersey, which was stolen from the locker room after the game, has been recovered. Authorities also recovered Brady’s Super Bowl XLIX jersey, which no one even knew had been missing.


    According to the statement, both jerseys were with a “credentialed member of the international media”:

    http://deadspin.com/nfl-international-media-member-had-tom-bradys-stolen-s-1793437695

    • Miranda

      “credentialed member of the international media”
      ————–
      Russia had this jersey keeping it in the same place Putin has one of Kraft’s rings. They begged to get back the jersey, I guess Putin said ok, but he ain’t giving back Kraft’s ring.

      • goldenstar

        Your imagination runs wild…and so does Truth.

  • BoomerGal

    Comey has indicated that there are MANY questions he won’t be able to answer due to the going investigations. So, basically, this hearing is a waste of everybody’s time. Thought so.

    • Town

      Not really. They confirmed they are investigating something. That something has Trump & nem very nervous. That’s why Trump was up early this morning mad-tweeting before the hearing.

      • BoomerGal

        Seems to me they would’ve postponed the hearings until they could divulge what that “something” is, otherwise, this is just confirmation of what??? Stuff we already know.

        • Town

          That there’s an investigation into the ties between Trump & Russia.

          Trump & Nem been busy tweeting & running their mouths that the Russia thing is just the Democrats being mad & sore losers. Law Enforcement has found something to look at more closely…and Trump & Nem don’t like it one bit.

          • BoomerGal

            Annnd…………..we knew that already.

          • Town

            No, we didn’t. We figured Comey would come out and say “nothing to see here.”

            Trump probably wasn’t and possibly isn’t the focus of this investigation but the folks around Trump are very shady and that’s who the FBI is looking at.

            Now it’s confirmed. FBI is taking a peek at your ass. If you’re clean or if you know the FBI is in your back pocket and will handle it for you, you’re not going to try to discredit what Comey was going to say before Comey even says it. Trump don’t like this one bit. Will be interesting to see who flips and sings first, especially since the White House is installing spies at all the Cabinet agencies to make sure all of the Secretaries stay “loyal” to Trump.

          • BoomerGal

            That’s A LOT of money to confirm something that can be answered on a one to one basis in any interview. This man cannot answer the majority of the questions being asked. That’s an exercise in futility. They should’ve waited to schedule this hearing.

          • Town

            When you are investigating something/someone, you NEVER let anyone know what YOU know (or what you DON’T) know, if you’re trying to find out more.

            Comey may not have any answers. Comey might have a lot of answers. BUT TRUMP & CO. DON’T KNOW THAT.

            They don’t know what Comey does or does not know. Not knowing what the deal is makes people VERY nervous (hence the mad tweeting this morning & trying to direct the narrative before Comey even brushed his teeth.) Somebody’s going to get nervous and somebody’s going to slip up.

          • BoomerGal

            I understand, it’s what Comey indicated from the beginning. So, I reiterate, they should’ve waited to conduct this hearing.

          • caribbeanobserver

            One good thing is the impressive Rep Adam Schiff, and the other is that the details are slowly being outlined (agreed it is not at the pace we want) but thoroughness is needed.

          • Town

            Right.

            See, we think it’s a waste of our time because Comey isn’t coming out and announcing charges on Trump. It’s not. The fact you’re being investigated TWO MONTHS into your term is heavy.

            FBI is doing this. Not Democrats, not Obama.

          • Town

            Not really because if its brought out into the open that FBI is investigating Trump & Co before Congress, it really can’t be swept under the rug or ignored.

          • BoomerGal

            This investigation started last year, July.

          • Town

            Yes, it did. And?

          • BoomerGal

            So, they were not investigating Trump but Russia’s interference in the election and suddenly in the process, they learned of possible collusion between Trump and Putin. Got it.

          • Town

            The FBI was probably investigating Manafort, not Trump because of that shady $12 million payment but in their investigation of Manafort they kept running across too many Trump campaign associates with shady ties to Russia.

            If all your boys are involved in crime there’s a good chance you’re involved too.

            Again, just like with Trump Towers, there probably WAS a wiretap on one of the foreign tenants of Trump Tower (which is LEGAL) but too many Trump people kept coming across their taps.

          • MonieTalks

            Like the pitiful, uncomfortable interview Carter Page gave on MSNBC with Chris Hayes.

            Page thought he would quietly put in a leave of absence from the Trump campaign last summer (July) and close that deal with the Russian oil company but the FBI, possibly CIA was watching all along.

          • Town

            Trump himself wasn’t the (initial) target, it was the people AROUND Trump.

            Just like if Trump Tower was wiretapped, Trump wasn’t the target, the foreigners living in Trump Tower were the targets.

            But if law enforcement is investigating Person A and Person B keeps showing up, law enforcement has no choice but to take a peek at Person B to find out if they are involved with Person A & their crimes.

          • conlakappa

            Unindicted co-conspirator…

          • goldenstar

            This is waaaay better than a Scandal plot point…

  • MonieTalks

    We went from Harvard Law Review president to this….gawddamn America!

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/843803115044454402

    • conlakappa

      He’s so simple. Life didn’t exist before him, you know.

    • Miranda

      I hate everybody that voted for this clown.

    • Can’t he even pretend that he’s working?

      • BoomerGal

        LOL!!! Good morning, woody.

  • Miranda
    • conlakappa

      So someone told Der Oranger it was coming and he tried to get out in front of the story.

    • MonieTalks

      Many people have moved on from this, but don’t forget Russian hackers released medical info of Simone Biles, Serena Williams and other American and foreign athletes and hacked the whistleblower who detailed the Russian doping practices.

      Did our investigation-addicted GOP ever get to the bottom of that? I remember when they were obsessed with investigating steroid use in baseball. No investigation on hacking American athletes’s PHI?

      • conlakappa

        The House is fine with investigating when it fits their operating narrative that it is non-upstanding-white-male citizenry who are the miscreants. The baseball thing blew up in their faces when thick-armed hero McGwire was up there crying and kinda, sorta admitting he juiced.

    • rikyrah

      Truth

    • isonprize

      I see no lies.

  • lamh

    It’s always funny that whenever folks see you work in the lab they assume you draw blood

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5d5027f24f9c3b4f5977232de5f27f4dc811c93664467ce42245d9c3ddf5423f.jpg

  • Alma98

    Morning all

    • BoomerGal

      Morning, Alma

      • Alma98

        Morning BG

    • MsKitty

      Morning Alma

      • Alma98

        Morning MsKitty

    • sagittarius

      Morning Alma!

      • Alma98

        Morning sagi! (HUGS)

        • sagittarius

          (HUGS) back!

          Glad to see your font!

  • Admiral_Komack

    There IS a counterintelligence investigation into links between Trump campaign operatives and the Russians says Comey – but it’s open and ongoing so FBI chief can’t say who is the target

    FBI Director James Comey took the unusual step of confirming the existence of a counterintelligence investigation today at a House hearing on Russia meddling in the 2016 election.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4331762/FBI-director-confirms-Trump-campaign-Russian-investigation.html?ITO=applenews

  • Miranda
    • rikyrah

      Need to ask him about his Russian business partners with ties to Putin

      • BoomerGal

        Probably can’t answer that.

    • conlakappa

      I’d add Dumb though. They are really not strategic enough to not have the truth stumbled upon. It’s all tactic with the distraction. Truth will out.

  • Miranda

    It is absolutely sickening. The fuck you trying to make students spend 10 times more than they need to go to some school across the damn country when a state law school is 60 miles away.

    • conlakappa

      I wonder if there is backstory as to why they didn’t work with A&M to set up a pipeline. And, yeah, there a ton of law schools in Florida so it’s not like there weren’t plenty of opportunities for partnership. Shady.

    • This is what Johnny Taylor and nem should be complaining about.

  • Lisa M

    Good morning, everyone! So on FoxnotreallyNews LEAKS!!! Nuthin’ but “felonious dissemination of classified information” LEAKS!!!

    45 collusion with Russia…No biggie because of LEAKS!!!

    • BoomerGal

      Good morning, Lisa M! HAHAHA……I hear you! The only thing they CAN talk about, apparently, is LEAKS!!

    • Alma98

      Morning Lisa

  • Miranda
  • aleth

    Did the GOP workshop their talking point? Seems like they are all compromised yikes

  • conlakappa

    Don’t forget that Ms. Valerie is talking now at CAP event. I decided to listen rather than going, recognizing it would be a madhouse! https://www.americanprogress.org/events/2017/03/13/428044/428044/

    • goldenstar

      Just tuned in. Is this being videotaped?

      • conlakappa

        Dunno.

  • MonieTalks
    • conlakappa

      Did they get memos about wearing above-the-thigh dresses?

      • edp4bho

        Eternally horny-it’s why they follow their men lock-step !
        Afternoon POU !

        • BoomerGal

          Afternoon, edp!

    • Miranda

      That should be their motto: News You Can’t Use.

      • goldenstar

        and Thighs That Can Be.

        • Miranda

          HA!

    • aleth

      Damn propaganda is great from the dolt regime tv

  • Miranda
    • Alma98

      This is ridiculous and sad.

    • GreenLadyHere

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  • Miranda
    • goldenstar

      DiFi for the switchblade

      • isonprize

        I wish that more of them would cut…

        • Miranda

          I wish more of them would stab…

  • Miranda
  • GreenLadyHere

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  • aleth

    Tinfoil fam.. .follow me
    a. Nunes asking if FBI should investigate tie to Russia and reopen case [will tie into Stone’s threat and Dolt’s promise more info in 2 weeks – it will deal with podesta business tie to Russia though it is disclose publically] This is one of their strategy. [This is their key defense strategy. Nune their gate keeper in the house let us know just now].
    b. Funding to the IC threats
    c. Leak investigation- sessions their DOJ gatekeeper will do this

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥– –Posting —Without Comment- –4 NOW. . – – –

    — -☺https://twitter.com/ABC/status/843854066639929344

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥– —ALL KINDSA– -TRUTH Bein’ Shared. .— –

    — -☺https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/843853674053099521

    – – — The growing list shooting down Trump’s wiretapping claims:
    FBI Director
    House Intel Cmte
    Senate Intel Cmte
    Fmr. DNI Clapper
    Even GCHQ

    – – –Sooo- –WHEN- — -WILL The –CONSEQUENCES- – Against—“IT”– –B ISSUED!!??- -aaaarrrgggg!!

    COMMENTS:- – — @kylegriffin1 Trump has to apologize to Obama. Period. This is where all Americans have to draw the line. Enough of this shit show.

    — –@kylegriffin1 It screams 25th Amendment.

    ——– —@kylegriffin1 doesn’t matter to trumpy he’s moved on and will come up with new and exciting lies #kickassout

  • TyrenM

    Listening to Gorsuch Hearing in Senate Judiciary Committee. R’s saying judge him on his merits. D’s noting Garland not given a hearing. Feinstein and Durbin have started on his own rulings. Haven’t heard Al or Amy yet.

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥– – YEAH!– -WE ALREADY KNOW!!– –
    — –☺https://twitter.com/ABC/status/843846200172273666

    FBI Director Comey on Pres. Trump’s wiretapping claims: “I have no information that supports those tweets”

    —COMMENTS:– – –@ABC This is embarrassing. We have to talk about tweets in governmental hearings because our president is unhinged.
    @ABC
    In other words our POTUS is a damn habitual liar. He is totally unfit
    for the office he holds. Or he is delusional and is still unfit.

    — — @ABC Proper translation: Trump is lying.— –

    —-Keep AXin’- – – –WHEN WILL the CONSEQUENCES- – -B ISSUED!!??– – geesh!!

  • BoomerGal

    GOP Rep. Can’t Recall Any Bill ‘More Universally Detested’ Than AHCA

    Source: Talking Points Memo

    By ESME CRIBB Published MARCH 20, 2017, 11:04 AM EDT

    Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) said Monday that he can’t think of any legislation proposed during his time in Congress that has been “more universally detested” than House Republicans’ bill to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act.

    “While I’ve been in Congress, I can’t recall a more universally detested piece of legislation than this GOP health care bill,” Amash tweeted.

    Amash faced questions about the repeal from constituents at a town hall during the congressional recess in January. At that event, he advocated for a conditional state-by-state repeal of Obamacare to be activated only once state legislatures passed their own health care legislation to replace it.

    In March, Amash said that House Republican leadership was trying to “ram” the repeal bill through Congress. “The problem actually is that they’re not working with Democrats,” he said.

    Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/justin-amash-obamacare-repeal-bill-universally-detested

  • Miranda
  • Miranda

    Please watch if you haven’t seen this
    https://twitter.com/SenateDems/status/843858277268164608

    • goldenstar

      DAMN.

    • Wow.

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥—RE:– – OUR Beloved- -VP Joe♥- – —4- –#TeamObama♥- –Emerging. . – — :>)

    — –☺https://twitter.com/thehill/status/843846615215603712
    – —Biden to to push for preserving ObamaCare ahead of GOP’s repeal vote– – –

    — -LooKin’– – -FORWARD- –>— -WAYTA Gooo. . . :>)

  • TyrenM

    Sheldon Whitehouse going in on R’s 5-4 decisions all for Republicans on elections and pro-corporations.

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥—YES.- —From–AG HOLDER♥- – — #TeamObama- -Emerging- —

    – –☺https://twitter.com/EricHolder/status/843850152162934785

    – – —Intell hearing today – bottom lines so far: 1)Trump campaign under investigation and 2)Trump tweets about Obama are bogus.– — – –THANK U♥—:>)

  • Miranda

    well….confirming the Russian goals at least.
    https://twitter.com/axios/status/843855998179840001

  • Miranda

    Ex-Republican lawmaker stuns CNN panel — says Trump isn’t smart enough to be president

    David Jolly, former Republican congressman from FL:
    “I think he’s learning about his own health care bill listening to you and Chris in the morning, He does not practice in details, nor understands the finer points of domestic or foreign policy. When he throws out a wiretap charge, what does that mean? We know he’s lying about that, but he doesn’t understand what a FISA court is. He doesn’t understand that he just made an allegation of a felony, he doesn’t understand that he’s crippling the United States on a world stage. That speaks to more than credibility, that speaks to intellect.”

    • isonprize

      Well, damn. There is at least ONE Rethug willing to tell the truth. #TellAFriend

      • nellcote

        they get braver when they’re out of office.

  • conlakappa

    It’s the German/Nordic spelling.

    • lamh

      Ah…gotcha …dude looks like regular ole white Louisiana redneck to me..

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥– -YES!- — Rep.SPEIER♥– -GITTIN’- -ALL OVA- — PUT[foot] – IN[mouth]!- – —— –

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  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥– –RESISTANTS♥– – Keep Makin’—ALL KINDSA- -POINTS!!– -Annnd Yer Answer- –Comey??

    – – –☺https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/843850212473016321
    – —Himes: Trump will “attack anyone & everyone” including Hamilton cast, Schumer, U.S. allies, intel community. Asks—why won’t he attack Putin?– –

    WE KNOW- – –U Cain’t REPLY!!— -geesh!!

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥– –RESISTANT♥- – – -WORD!!— –

    – – –☺https://twitter.com/MannySchewitz/status/843873561265819649

    – — K’MON– –KARMA!!- – –

    • conlakappa

      The Bolivian Zebras are now involved?! /cheesy grin

      • GreenLadyHere

        LOL Good MornTin’ conlakappa♥- –:>) **BIG HHUG** :>)

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        Have a BLESSED Day.♥ :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    Good Morntin” lamh. :>) **BIG HUG** :>)–

    UHG!!- — I Hear U. . .Many hospitals have written AGAINST- -“IT”.- —:>)

    Have a BLESSED Day♥ :>)

  • Miranda

    A Man Accidentally Shot Himself And Blamed An Imaginary Black Man
    He was later arrested for filing a false report.
    March 20, 2017

    Arthur Palombo lied to the cops when he said a black man shot him.
    A man accidentally shot himself in the stomach and decided to blame it on a black man who didn’t exist.

    Arthur Palombo, 20, told police that he went to Williamsbridge Oval Park in the Bronx on Wednesday to sell an old revolver to someone he had met a few weeks earlier, according to the New York Daily News. Palombo reported that the potential buyer, a bald black man, refused to pay the $100 asking price and shot him.

    more here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/man-shot-himself-blamed-imaginary-black-man_us_58cfebaee4b0be71dcf64063?

    • Town

      If the bad black man had the gun to shoot this fool, why wouldn’t he just run away with the gun?

  • TyrenM

    Franken: Majority Leader says American people should decide Scalia’s replacement. Problem with this, the American people already decided…TWICE.

  • TyrenM

    Grassley banging gavel for 3 min straight.

    • rikyrah

      Why?

  • 7thangel
    • Miranda

      Now THERE’S a crime if ever there was one.

    • isonprize

      Truly unfortunate.

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥- — WAYELL—She Appears 2 B Reppin’ 4 her Constituents– — Clinton Country. .

    – – –☺
    Kurt Eichenwald‏

    Ileana Ros-Lehtinen is first GOPr in this hearing addressing this situation re: damage to country rather than worrying about harm to party.

    – –Re-Election-???- — **smh**

    • aleth

      yes re-election to say I tired.
      I say special prosecutor because Comey ain’t gonna do shit but let them go

      • GreenLadyHere

        Good MornTin’ aleth. :>)- – -**BIG HUG** :>)

        “Co-Sign”– – Comey ain’t gonna do shit but let them go. . — -NO SURPRISE!.>

        Have a BLESSED Day♥ :>)

    • conlakappa

      Nah, she’s not that decent a person. Just trying to get headlines.

      • GreenLadyHere

        conlakappa- —WE SCOPED Her– -It’s about the VOTES!!– – -hmph!!

  • BoomerGal

    Ok, disqus, you win. I’m out.

    • TyrenM

      Had me out too.

  • nellcote
  • 7thangel

    i know i’m late and that y’all discussed the vid, but when i saw this tweet late last night, my reaction was simply ‘nope’.

    if i saw this irl, i would be questioning life and whether the chicken gods have come for vengeance

    srsly though, a new meaning to cock d

    https://twitter.com/MoreAndAgain/status/843457740571906048

    • Miranda

      That chicken look like it cast spells – no WAAAAYYYY I wanna be in the same area code as that.

    • MsKitty

      That’s some scary Night of the Lepus nonsense right there.

      Almost make somebody think about going vegetarian.

      • MsKitty

        Cartoon‏ @_chibundom Mar 19
        @MoreAndAgain I see myself running from this chicken. Terrified. Arms flailing. Screaming. Wig flying off my head…

      • nellcote

        or eating more chicken LOL

        • MsKitty

          Yeah, on the one hand it’s like this would make a good substitution for a pig roast. But on the other hand, it would require some serious combat gear to take him down.

    • rikyrah

      No no no
      Uh uh

    • The Shy Lurker

      “What bitch, WHAT?!!!”

    • GreenLadyHere

      HEEY 7thangel.—:>) **BIG HUG** :>)

      – – -☺http://media3.giphy.com/media/12IvwVD4jd7CvK/giphy.gif
      **SMH** :>)

      Have a BLESSED Day♥ :>)

    • That other chicken was cute and fluffy. But this mofo right here??? No ma’am!

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥- –WHOA- — Msnbc- –Didn’t let the PLANNED– -Spice(R)ack – -Presser- — INTERRUPTION- – -Pre-Empt the HEARING.- – –

    -Sooo — -They Switched back 2 the HEARING. . .Maybe they R ‘- – weighin’ their PARADE- Decision. .

    https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/b48afd4485babf4a5894a26cb670bc868476b43f/c=18-0-622-453&r=x404&c=534×401/local/-/media/2016/01/21/Indianapolis/B9320607428Z.1_20160121163416_000_GVFD7P0IF.1-0.jpg

    WATCHIN’. . . . .

  • Miranda

    This is the official POTUS account. This nut needs to be tranquilized!
    https://twitter.com/potus/status/843881258593796098

    • conlakappa

      Cocaine is a helluva drug.

    • aleth

      is this a real account?
      This is a first on POTUS account hahahaha, GG should assist him shortly

      • nellcote

        the president can de-classify info.

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥– –A RESISTANT♥- – –Brangin’- — Soome FACTS. . . – —

    – – -☺https://twitter.com/Khanoisseur/status/843771937725718528

    – — Clinton’s plans to regulate Wall Street would’ve jeopardized Comey’s post-FBI return finance world–she had to go. .

    – –CALL!- — -HIM!- —OUT!!- —

    • rikyrah

      Ohhhh

      • GreenLadyHere

        rikyrah- —Some RESISTANTS- – -Got Some- – -INTEL.- RECEIPTS. . — :>)

  • lamh

    I hope folks aren’t so entrenched in conspiracy theory that they make this administration seem smarter & more machiavelli than it is

    • MsKitty

      I don’t know what’s annoying me more. People saying that about it all being a complicated conspiracy, or “don’t be distracted by A while B and C are going on.”

      All I know is I’ve had to shy away from social media significantly in recent weeks because I need a break from all the eyerolling I’ve ended up doing.

      • lamh

        right…it’s like sometime a duck is a duck.

        this idea folks have that Trump er al are masterminds is ridiculous.

        it gives them too much credit, IMHO.

        also too despondency also isn’t great …we know it may come to nothing but hey doesn’t mean the fact that it is happening isn’t a big deal

  • Miranda

    So damn much going on right now. The daily briefing has started as well…and Spicer is about to crack right out the gate. Is he kidding with this shit?
    https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/843884273572728832
    https://twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/843884163300298753

    • nellcote

      interesting, Nicole Wallace was just saying that donnieInc was probably going to expand the meaning of “wire tapping” and narrow the circle of campaign officials. specifically disavowing hanger ons.

      • nellcote

        John Harwood‏Verified account @JohnJHarwood

        Spicer calls Flynn a “volunteer” on Trump campaign and says Manafort played “minimal role”

        • Miranda

          Your eventual pick for National Security Advisor was just a “volunteer” with the campaign.

          next they’ll say all he did was hand out some flyers at a rally that one time.

      • nellcote

        Maggie Haberman‏Verified account @maggieNYT

        Wow – Spicer now describing Manafort as playing a “very limited role” for a “very limited” time. He was chairman of the campaign!!!

  • Miranda

    Trump told him he BET NOT veer from the party line and dammit Spicer not gonna let him down.
    https://twitter.com/jamiedupree/status/843885743286226944

    • MsKitty

      “says more information could still come out.”

      Sure, Spicey.

    • aleth

      Why are they still obsessed with Obama?

      • rikyrah

        Because 44 has ethics.
        44 is a true patriot
        And because with every picture 44 looks like he’s de-aging.

  • aleth

    Dolt45 Comey is given you an out..implicit or explicit.

    https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/843886482679128064

    • Town

      Right. The target of the investigation is likely not Trump himself but one of his crew members. Comey is trying to throw Trump a lifeline with this implicit/explicit stuff but Trump is going to run his mouth and get himself in trouble.

  • nellcote

    since comey is being so pointed in not answering about ongoing investigations, I wish someone would ask him what the fuck was the deal with talking about the emails in Oct.

    • Miranda

      For the life of me I can’t figure out why that hasn’t been asked.

  • Miranda
  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥— From a RESISTANT♥- Igorvolsky♥- — WORD!!
    — -☺Senate should not confirm SCOTUS nominee until we complete an investigation into the legitimacy of the election that led to the nomination.– – –

    — –Since GOP insists on putting party before country it’s pretty clear we need independent investigation into possible Russia/Trump collusion– —

    — – – From this hearing, it’s pretty clear that GOP gives zero fucks that Trump may have colluded w/ Putin to influence & win the election– —

    – –P-I-T-I-F-U-L– –EVIL/VILE- – –“SWAMP DWELLERS!!”–

  • nellcote
  • nellcote

    kara vallow‏Verified account @teenagesleuth

    Trump declares Mar-a-Lago a federal prison, rents to Federal Bureau of Prisons at $100 million, so even while he’s in prison he’s making $$$

  • nellcote
  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥—Aaaaarrrrggg—THIS– -LYIN’ B**TURD. . .Willing 2 DIE on His SWORD- — 4—that “IT” B**TURD!!. . . .

    – – -☺https://twitter.com/tommyxtopher/status/843890592241389569

    – — Spicer confronted about Trump travel to Mar a Lago every week while making cruel cuts. “Presidents always travel.”Reporter: Not this much– —
    GEESH!!- – —K’MON- – -KARMA!!– – –

  • Miranda

    Afternoon thread is up

    • GreenLadyHere

      miranda♥- – — Thank U :>)

  • lamh
  • lamh

    Ooh. i know what i’ll be watching on Netflix tmrw!!

    https://twitter.com/matthewacherry/status/843889678491111424

    • rikyrah

      Yeah

    • rikyrah

      Lamh,
      Did you watch Burning Sands on Netflix?