September 26, 2017

Monday Open Thread: Early African American Basketball


This week we’re going to take a look at the early era of African Americans in basketball known as the “Black Fives Era”.

First, a brief historical background…

From Wikipedia:

The term Black Fives refers to all-black basketball teams that thrived in the United States between 1904, when basketball was first introduced to African Americans on a large scale organized basis, and 1950, when the National Basketball Association became racially integrated. The period is known as the “Black Fives Era” or “Early Black Basketball” or simply “Black Basketball”.

Early basketball teams were often called “fives” in reference to the five starting players. All-black teams were known as colored quints, colored fives, Negro fives, or black fives.

Dozens of all-black teams emerged during the Black Fives Era, in New York City, Washington, Chicago, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Cleveland, and other cities. They were sponsored by or affiliated with churches, athletic clubs, social clubs, businesses, newspapers, YMCA branches, and other organizations.

The terms “Black Fives” and “Black Fives Era” are trademarked phrases owned by Black Fives, Inc., whose founder and owner, Claude Johnson, coined the terms while researching and promoting the period’s history.


Edward B. Henderson

Edwin Henderson is considered the “Grandfather of Black Basketball.” He was a black gym teacher who is credited with being the first to introduce the game of basketball to African Americans in a wide scale organized way, in the winter of 1904 in Washington, D.C., through physical education classes in the district’s racially segregated public school system. It was thirteen years after basketball was invented. Henderson learned the sport while taking summer classes in physical training at Harvard University. He envisioned basketball not as an end in itself but as a public-health and civil-rights tool. Henderson believed that, by organizing black athletics, including basketball, it would be possible to send more outstanding black student athletes to excel at northern white colleges and debunk negative stereotypes of the race. He reasoned that in sports, unlike politics and business, the black race would get a fair chance to succeed. According to Henderson, the relatively new sport was not an immediate hit with his students. “Among blacks, basketball was at first considered a ‘sissy’ game, as was tennis in the rugged days of football,” he later wrote.[1] In 1906, Henderson co-founded (along with Garnet Wilkinson of the M Street High School and W. A. Joiner of Howard University, as well as W. A. Decatur and Robert Mattingly of Armstrong Technical High School) the Inter-Scholastic Athletic Association of Middle Atlantic States, an amateur sports organization designed to encourage intramural competition among intercollegiate and interscholastic athletes, in track and field as well as in basketball.

Subsequently, several all-black basketball teams made up of players from public schools, athletic clubs, churches, colleges, and Colored YMCAs began to emerge in the Washington, DC area. Simultaneously, basketball was catching on among African Americans in New York City, and these two urban centers served as the early incubators of the black game.

The first independent African American basketball team in the history of the sport was the Smart Set Athletic Club of Brooklyn, which was organized in 1907. This team promptly won the first “Colored Basketball World’s Championship”—a title coined by African American sportswriters to honor the best all-black basketball team, by their informal consensus—for the 1907-08 season.


Brooklyn, NY


Smart Set Athletic Club, of Brooklyn, New York, was an amateur African-American basketball team in the early 1900s. Smart Set was the first team to be designated Colored Basketball World’s Champions, in 1908 and 1909. The team so dominated their opponents they were known as the “Grave Diggers.”

The basketball team was only one of the sports teams fielded by the Smart Set Athletic Club, which was founded in 1905. The Smart Set maintained a large track and field team, and members of the club were also active in baseball, swimming, rowing, bowling, boxing, and wrestling. The Smart Set sponsored track and field meets, notably big indoor meets at the 14th Regiment Armory and the 47th Regiment Armory. The athletic club drew its membership from the wealthy black families that lived in the predominantly white Stuyvesant Heights section of Brooklyn.

The basketball team, formed in 1907, is believed to be the first independent all-black basketball team. The Smart Set team played its home games at the 14th Regiment Armory in Brooklyn.

In 1907 the Smart Set team joined other black clubs to form the Olympian Athletic League, which included notable rivals St. Christopher Club and the Alpha Physical Culture Club both of Harlem, as well as the Marathon Athletic Club of Brooklyn and the Jersey City Colored YMCA.

In 1909, the Smart Set pioneered intercity basketball among black teams by traveling down to Washington, DC, to play against the club champion of the Inter-Scholastic Athletic Association, Crescent Athletic Club. In 1910, the Smart Set met the 12th Street YMCA of DC in a season-ending game, and lost.

The Smart Set Athletic Club also sponsored a women’s team, the Spartan Girls, one of the first all-black women’s basketball teams.

(SOURCE: Hoopedia)


Smart Set Athletic Club championship team of 1908 (Photo: Hoopedia)


Spartan Athletic Club, or Spartan Girls, of Brooklyn, New York, was an African American women’s basketball team in the early 1900s. The team was the female auxiliary club of the Smart Set Athletic Club.

Spartan Athletic Club was organized in August of 1910, and sponsored track and field and basketball. In the team’s first season, 1910-11, the Spartans won ten games and lost two. The team was coached by a male, S. Jackson. Players were Bernadine Harris, Agnes Green, Genevieve Harris, Edna Clements, Mary Harris, Gladys Moore, and Captain Edith Trice.



Spartan Athletic Club basketball team of 1911


*FUN FACT: Edward “Teddy” Horne, the father of the late Lena Horne, was a member of the Smart Set Athletic Club!*

  • The Pope chucks up the deuces!

    Pope Benedict XVI Says He Will Resign
    Published: February 11, 2013

    ROME — Pope Benedict XVI, the former Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger who took office in 2005 following the death of his predecessor, said on Monday that he will resign on Feb. 28, the first pope to do so in six centuries.

    A profoundly conservative figure whose papacy was overshadowed by sexual abuse scandals in the Roman Catholic Church, the pope, 85, said that after examining his conscience “before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise” of his position as head of the world’s Roman Catholics.

    While there had been questioning about his health and advancing years, his announcement — even by the Vatican’s official account — stunned many. “The pope took us by surprise,” said Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi, who explained that many cardinals were in Rome on Monday for a ceremony at the Vatican and heard the pope’s address



    Truth be told, Pope Bendict was always a placeholder.

    • Miranda

      The pope can just give two weeks notice? OK Benny…wassup?

      • rikyrah

        BWA HAH A HA HA

        two weeks notice


      • JojoRaze

        He really did give two days notice tho. lol What living ex popes do in retirement?
        I’m wondering if they low-key caught him with that young valet of his, or something.

        • MsKitty

          From what I understand Pope Benny will be sent to a “retreat” to live out the rest of his days, during which he will not be allowed to make public statements or appearances. Basically a posh version of lockdown.

          • qosine

            Napolean:Elba :: Pope Benny: _____?

          • conlakappa

            Elba isn’t too far from Rome…

          • qosine


          • Well dayum!

      • conlakappa

        Something shady, is the vibe it kicks off. C’mon, if his mentor JP II stuck it out for years, beyond being visibly feeble, why wouldn’t he? Interesting timing, coming close on the heels of the death of one of the few cardinals praised for the actions he did when the abuse scandal hit. Did he have papers on Papa Ratzi?

    • rikyrah

      I always thought they died in office.

      last time someone just up and quit was 500 years ago?

  • Miranda

    Cool topic for the week! I’ve never heard of the Black Fives Era

  • Miranda

    The pope can just give two weeks notice? OK Benny…wassup?

  • Miranda

    The pope can just give two weeks notice? OK Benny…wassup?

  • rikyrah

    Good Morning, Everyone 🙂

  • Miranda

    3 plead guilty to falsifying OH weapons permits
    The Associated Press

    COLUMBUS, Ohio — Three central Ohio man have been given three years of probation after admitting they falsified concealed-carry weapons training certificates, leading to the invalidation of hundreds of licenses.

    Franklin County sheriff’s deputies arrested the men last summer after determining that they had issued falsified training certificates to concealed-carry license applicants.

    The Columbus Dispatch ( reports about 300 recipients turned in their licenses after they were notified of the problems. About 200 were issued new licenses after receiving the proper training, and others didn’t seek new licenses or haven’t finished the training.

    more here

    • Admiral_Komack

      I guess these criminals will get guns because…well, you know, all criminals WILL get guns, right, NRA?

  • rikyrah


    Quietly Killing a Consumer Watchdog

    Published: February 10, 2013

    If you’d like to know why Republicans are trying to shut down the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, take a look at three things the agency has already accomplished in its first 18 months:

    It called a halt to predatory practices by mortgage lenders, ensuring that borrowers are not saddled with loans they can’t afford and preventing brokers from earning higher commissions for higher interest rates.

    ¶It won an $85 million settlement from American Express, which it accused of deceptive and discriminatory marketing and billing practices.

    ¶It opened an investigation into questionable marketing practices by banks and credit card companies on college campuses, which often take place after undisclosed financial arrangements are made with universities.

    The consumer bureau has taken seriously its mandate to protect the public from the kinds of abuses that helped lead to the 2009 recession, and it has not been intimidated by the financial industry’s army of lobbyists. That’s what worries Republicans. They can’t prevent the bureau from regulating their financial supporters. Having failed to block the creation of the bureau in the 2010 Dodd-Frank financial reform bill, they are now trying to take away its power by filibuster, and they may well succeed.

    • Yeah, but drones tho… /EmoProg Logic

  • rikyrah

    Paul Krugman: Last week Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, gave what his office told us would be a major policy speech. And we should be grateful for the heads-up about the speech’s majorness. Otherwise, a read of the speech might have suggested that he was offering nothing more than a meager, warmed-over selection of stale ideas.

    To be sure, Mr. Cantor tried to sound interested in serious policy discussion. But he didn’t succeed – and that was no accident. For these days his party dislikes the whole idea of applying critical thinking and evidence to policy questions. And no, that’s not a caricature: Last year the Texas G.O.P. explicitly condemned efforts to teach “critical thinking skills,” because, it said, such efforts “have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.”

  • rikyrah

    NYT: (Missoula, Mont) This funky college town …. has long been a liberal pocket, an isolated speck of blue in a deeply red state. Now Montana is electing more politicians who lean that way, thanks to a different-minded generation of young voters animated by the recession and social issues.

    …. these students, and dozens of other young people interviewed here last week, give voice to a trend that is surprising pollsters and jangling the nerves of Republicans. On a central philosophical question of the day – the size and scope of the federal government – a clear majority of young people embraces President Obama’s notion that it can be a constructive force….

    …. Here in Montana, a state that backed John McCain in 2008 and Mr. Romney last year, voters under 30 have helped elect two Democratic senators and a new Democratic governor. Nationally, young voters have since 2004 been casting their ballots for Democrats by far wider margins than previous young generations – a shift that could reshape American politics for decades.


    Later in the article, the GOP response to young voters in Montanta helping elect Gov Steve Bullock and re-elect Sen Jon Tester (“Both times, polls stayed open hours past their official closing time to accommodate huge lines of students. Both times, Forward Montana ran huge voter registration drives”)?

    They are “now trying to undo a Montana law that permits voters to register on Election Day”.

  • rikyrah

    Child Molestation is Expensive

    by BooMan
    Sun Feb 10th, 2013 at 11:42:16 PM EST

    We’ve had our own problems in Philadelphia, but this is pretty low.

    Pressed to come up with hundreds of millions of dollars to settle clergy sex abuse lawsuits, Cardinal Roger M. Mahony turned to one group of Catholics whose faith could not be shaken: the dead.
    Under his leadership in 2007, the Archdiocese of Los Angeles quietly appropriated $115 million from a cemetery maintenance fund and used it to help pay a landmark settlement with molestation victims.

    The church did not inform relatives of the deceased that it had taken the money, which amounted to 88% of the fund. Families of those buried in church-owned cemeteries and interred in its mausoleums have contributed to a dedicated account for the perpetual care of graves, crypts and grounds since the 1890s.

    Mahony and other church officials also did not mention the cemetery fund in numerous public statements about how the archdiocese planned to cover the $660-million abuse settlement. In detailed presentations to parish groups, the cardinal and his aides said they had cashed in substantial investments to pay the settlement, but they did not disclose that the main asset liquidated was cemetery money.

    Sometimes it feels like simply citing this stuff without commentary is anti-Catholic.

    • TyrenM

      Has anybody heard a REAL reason the Pope retired today?

  • rikyrah

    Senate Poised To Pass Violence Against Women Act – But House Outlook Remains Uncertain

    Sahil Kapur-February 11, 2013, 6:00 AM
    The Senate is poised to pass the Violence Against Women Act reauthorization early this week, with a final vote expected Monday afternoon or Tuesday.

    The legislation enjoys broad bipartisan support in the Senate; it has 62 sponsors and moved forward last week by a vote of 85-8. The Senate voted 34-65 to reject an amendment by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) to replace the measure with a scaled-back reauthorization.

    After voting on additional amendments, including one by VAWA chief sponsor Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) to beef up resources to combat human trafficking, the legislation is expected to pass with expanded provisions to extend coverage to gays, illegal immigrants and Native Americans who suffer from domestic abuse.

    Despite the unusually large Senate consensus, there has been no perceptible movement among House Republican leaders since they passed a scaled-back version of VAWA on a party-line vote last year, rejecting the Senate legislation.

  • Miranda

    Dear Latino Voters,

    Roger Ailes thinks you are all idiots.


    African-american voters

    Roger Ailes’ Border War Can the Fox News CEO make his network more Latino-friendly?
    By Eliza Gray

    Roger Ailes is kvetching. “The president likes to divide people into groups,” he huffs into the phone. “He’s too busy getting the middle class to hate rich people, blacks to hate whites. He is busy trying to get everybody to hate each other.” With that off his chest, Ailes gets back on message. “We need to get along,” he says.

    It’s an unexpected plea from the Fox News CEO considering his impressive record of provocation. But recently, “getting along” has become an imperative for the conservative movement. Mitt Romney lost the Latino vote by nearly 50 points, and now almost everyone agrees that the Republican Party needs to improve with Hispanic voters to have a shot at the White House in 2016. That could also be Ailes’s last year at Fox News: His contract expires then, when he’ll be 76 years old. So if Roger Ailes wants to see a Republican win what may be his last presidential election as a major player, he’ll need to try to make conservatism more palatable to Latinos. Which, of course, he will.

    “The fact is, we have a lot—Republicans have a lot more opportunity for them,” Ailes says. “If I’m going to risk my life to run over the fence to get into America, I want to win. I think Fox News will articulate that.”

    more here:

    • MsKitty

      Roger Ailes is kvetching. “The president likes to divide people into groups,” he huffs into the phone. “He’s too busy getting the middle class to hate rich people, blacks to hate whites. He is busy trying to get everybody to hate each other.”

      Projection…it’s what’s for dinner.

      • jds09

        LOL. I wonder why these people aren’t afraid of being struck by lightning.

  • GreenLadyHere


    • rikyrah


    • BoomerGal

      Cute GLH!! LOL!!!

  • rikyrah

    I think Ms. Judd is scaring folks.


    Rand Paul Says Ashley Judd is Attractive, Articulate and Doesn’t Represent Kentucky

    By: Sarah JonesFeb. 10th, 2013

    Tea Party representative Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) was on CNN’s State of the Union this morning in an attempt to establish his SOTU address pre-buttal narrative. Asked about the negative ads running against Ashley Judd, Mitch McConnell’s potential 2014 opponent in Kentucky, Rand Paul said she was attractive, articulate and and doesn’t represent Kentucky.

    Asked about Karl Rove’s negative ads against Judd in Kentucky, Rand said, “Part of politics is making sure people know about who you are running against. Ashley Judd’s a famous actress, she’s an attractive woman, and presents herself well, and from what I understand, is articulate. But the thing is, she doesn’t really represent Kentucky.”

    I guess Rand’s Kentucky doesn’t want to be represented by an attractive, articulate woman. Or maybe it’s that Rove’s GOP PAC Crossroads painted Judd out to be a radical liberal from Tennessee who loves ObamaCare because you should really “know” who is a Muslim Kenyan socialist without a birth certificate, rather than focusing on the people who are still clinging to the Affordable Care Act as a get out the vote tool even though they know they can’t overturn it. After all, the last thing Republicans can afford is to have actual policy discussions with voters.

    Rand also offered up his peculiar brand of Tea humor, “When I heard Ashley Judd might run for office I thought maybe it was Parliament since she lives in Scotland half the year.” Oh, European boogeywoman! Good one, Senator.

    If Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and Republicans aren’t worried about Judd, then why are they going out of their way to attack her? Good question. Mitch McConnell has lowest job approval rating among 90 members of the Senate. His job approval rating is at 37% with a 55% disapproval in Kentucky, according to a Public Policy Polling poll from December. And in a hypothetical match up, Judd was only trailing McConnell by 4% until voters were fed a few tidbits about her, such as her grandmother calling her a Hollywood liberal. Hence, the pre-emptive ads against Judd focusing on her comparative liberalism (also known as wanting Americans to have healthcare) in a conservative state like Kentucky.

    • conlakappa

      Didn’t he also tell Kentucky women, “You’re bone ignorant and butt ugly” with that statement?

  • rikyrah

    Roger Ailes’ Border War Can the Fox News CEO make his network more Latino-friendly?


    Roger Ailes is kvetching. “The president likes to divide people into groups,” he huffs into the phone. “He’s too busy getting the middle class to hate rich people, blacks to hate whites. He is busy trying to get everybody to hate each other.” With that off his chest, Ailes gets back on message. “We need to get along,” he says.

    It’s an unexpected plea from the Fox News CEO considering his impressive record of provocation. But recently, “getting along” has become an imperative for the conservative movement. Mitt Romney lost the Latino vote by nearly 50 points, and now almost everyone agrees that the Republican Party needs to improve with Hispanic voters to have a shot at the White House in 2016. That could also be Ailes’s last year at Fox News: His contract expires then, when he’ll be 76 years old. So if Roger Ailes wants to see a Republican win what may be his last presidential election as a major player, he’ll need to try to make conservatism more palatable to Latinos. Which, of course, he will.

    Roger Ailes wants to prove that the GOP is more appealing to Latinos than the alternatives, but will it work?

    “The fact is, we have a lot—Republicans have a lot more opportunity for them,” Ailes says. “If I’m going to risk my life to run over the fence to get into America, I want to win. I think Fox News will articulate that.”

  • rikyrah

    Conservatives Revel In Their Racism As They Mock First Lady Michelle Obama

    By: RmuseFeb. 10th, 2013

    Habituation is one of the simplest forms of learning and, when bad behavior is repeated regularly, it becomes unnoticed and the person exhibiting it has no need for self-analysis that may inform them their habit is harmful. For most of this country’s history, white supremacy was the unequivocal governing ideology, and despite the struggle for civil rights for all Americans and the election of the first African American President in 2008, anti-African American racism is still prevalent in the population and within the conservative movement. Subsequently, it drives most of the opposition to President Obama and by extension, the Democratic Party and sadly, the President’s wife Michelle Obama.

    Recently, under cover of protesting so-called federal government meddling in people’s lives, Mrs. Obama’s effort to promote low-calorie school lunches incited a football coach in Alabama to deride the First Lady’s posterior and body shape. The coach in question said, “Those lunches you get, 600-calorie lunches – you know who’s behind that? Fat butt Michelle Obama and look … look at her. She looks like she weighs 185 or 190. She’s overweight.” Another voice says, “Big fat gorilla” to which the coach responded, “I’m serious. Y’all, our country is, is, is going in the wrong direction. It’s going straight to hell.” The criticism of the First Lady’s derriere was the subject of a Rush Limbaugh rant nearly a year ago when he referred to her as “Michelle ‘my butts’ Obama,” and last year a Wisconsin Republican criticized Mrs. Obama’s healthy eating initiative loudly at an airport complaining that, “She lectures us on eating right while she has a large posterior herself.”

    In the Alabama coach’s case, the conversation quickly morphed from nutritional school lunches to the First Lady’s derriere to the country’s direction, and it is a sign that the real issue is not Mrs. Obama’s body shape, it is her presence as First Lady that challenges the historic view of a black woman’s, or any African American’s, place in a historically white supremacist culture. Instead of acceptance that America is moving away from a white supremacist society, growing racial resentment is driving extremist conservatism of right-wing Republicans, and plays a major role in their total rejection of President Obama and the Democratic Party regardless the American people support the President’s agenda.

    In the last election, many Americans and politicians, and the press is implicit in this problem, focused their attention on the plight of white Americans despite their numbers, as a percentage of the population, are decreasing as Hispanics and African Americans are growing in a natural progression in a multi-cultural society. In fact, leading up to the 2012 election, the press was preoccupied with the white vote; the white working class, white women, and wealthy white people and how they would decide the election in favor of Willard Romney. However, Republicans lost part of the white vote because of their racial resentment and extremism that goes against the social conscience of mainstream Americans whose attitudes toward tolerance is becoming the norm and, like decent human beings, are more concerned with fairness and diversity instead of religious extremism and pandering to rich white Americans. America is not changing; it has changed, and as the Republican Party becomes more extreme, and racist, they will find themselves declining in popularity among decent Americans regardless of their race, social, or economic demographic.

  • Miranda

    Obama weighing executive actions on housing, gays and other issues

    President Obama is considering a series of new executive actions aimed at working around a recalcitrant Congress, including policies that could allow struggling homeowners to refinance their mortgages, provide new protections for gays and lesbians, make buildings more energy-efficient and toughen regulations for coal-fired power plants, according to people outside the White House involved in discussions on the issues.

    One of the first orders is expected this week, when the Obama administration will call for the creation of new standards on what critical private-sector companies should do to protect their computer systems from hackers.

    more here

  • GreenLadyHere

    GOOD MORNTIN’ Sepia POU fAM♥ — -***BIG HUG*** :>) —

    —-[Hafta post QUICKLY. :>) ] – — GOOD NEWS –UPDATE: – –

    —–Cops question 2 suspected gang members in Hadiya’s slaying – –

    ——-Chicago Police on Sunday were questioning two suspected gang members in connection with the shooting death of 15-year-old Hadiya Pendleton.

    The two men, ages 18 and 20, were picked up early Sunday at 67th and Martin Luther King Drive, and hours later, witnesses were brought in to the police station to see if they could identify the men in lineups, sources said.

    – — – –FROM ANOTHER ARTICLE: – –

    ——-One of the men was driving a Nissan, the same car spotted in Hadiya’s shooting, which is thought to be a possible gang-war accident.

    The men are suspected members of the Gangster Disciples, a group that has been feuding in the area where Hadiya was shot. One of the men has a previous weapons conviction. Police had witnesses try to pick out the men in lineups, the Chicago Sun-Times notes. Mayor Rahm Emanuel called Hadiya’s parents to tell them about the development, a source tells the Tribune. “We’re just happy that Chicago police have some leads and things are moving,” her father says.

    – – -PRAISE the LORD. :>) – –

    • THIS is what people who claim to care about Hadiya Pendleton should be talking about. Instead, they’re puffing their chest and congratulating themselves on how they forced PBO to come to Chicago.

      • GreenLadyHere

        Sepia – —AMEN! — -AMEN! — -AMEN! – – —

        Again. Lookin’ 4ward — -2 this series!! :>) – —

    • GN

      Just sad all around. Three young lives destroyed.

      • conlakappa

        That is how I’ve always felt about the young man who killed my cousin–he was a 15-year-old who sealed his fate in one moment of stupidity.

        • qosine

          I am sorry about your cousin, conlakappa.

          • conlakappa

            Thank you. It’s been 25 years and how many dead young black men/lives destroyed since then?

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY GN ***BIG HUG*** :>)

        – -SAD- – -***fist bump***.- —

        -the OTHER MEMBERS – -of THAT GANG annnd OTHER GANGS.- – -SAD!

        Good 2 C U GN. :>)

  • Miranda

    NRA Dismisses ‘Connecticut Effect,’ Suggests Grief Over Newtown Tragedy Will Be Short-Lived

    WAUSAU, Wisconsin—The National Rifle Association will wait until the “Connecticut effect” has subsided to resume its push to weaken the nation’s gun laws, according to a top NRA lobbyist speaking at the NRA’s Wisconsin State Convention this weekend.

    Though the NRA had been tight-lipped about how the Newtown tragedy would affect their efforts, lobbyist Bob Welch, who represents the Wisconsin NRA group, was anything but during their yearly meeting.

    “We have a strong agenda coming up for next year, but of course a lot of that’s going to be delayed as the ‘Connecticut effect’ has to go through the process,” Welch, a former Republican state senator, told the Wisconsin’s NRA State Association during the legislative update. The group’s president, Jeff Nass, had previously mentioned that they would push the Republican-controlled legislature to pass a Stand Your Ground law, the likes of which became famous following the shooting death of Trayvon Martin in Florida.

    more here

    • The grief of the family members of the 26 Newton victims does not have a shelf life.

    • Town

      NRA to Newtown victims: No1curr

    • qosine

      Long wait. Never.

  • Bitter Boyce admits what the whole demanding PBO speak about gun violence is REALLY about: PBO proving his “blackness”:

    2) In politics, the squeaky wheel gets the oil. Too many black people are afraid to squeak. Being quiet does not help Barack Obama have a strong presidency, it creates one that is both weak and unresponsive. Sometimes the bi-racial man raised by white people in Hawaii, quite frankly, needs to be made aware of what black people are most concerned about. The black community spoke up for Hadiya and the Obama Administration answered. That’s how politics works, and I hope that we will soon realize that asking Obama to work with us is not treasonous, nor is it a waste of the president’s time. As many of his staunch supporters will say (I endorsed him myself), Barack is the president of all Americans, and we are Americans too.

    • Miranda

      he can go F himself.

      • conlakappa

        I would think that his self-loathing would prevent him from such.

    • GN

      He’s a fucking asshole.

    • Daltex82

      He has issues that only a psychologist can address.

    • Kennymack1971

      Yeah ok Boyce. Whatever.

    • Ebogan63

      Sometimes the bi-racial man raised by white people in Hawaii, quite frankly, needs to be made aware of what black people are most concerned about.

      this is some fucked up racist shite from this stupid assed nigga. PBO knows what the fuck black folks are worried about, he is just not very interested in proving his blackness to insecure jackasses like Bitter Boyce.

      • GN

        It’s Time to Boycott Tavis,West, and All Black-on-Black Racists

        So why are Tavis and West playing these games when they know it’s hurting both the country, and the administration of the first Black President of the United States?

        It’s simple – for spite. As I mentioned previously, since Black people are a product of the very same racist environment as White people, many Black people have attitudes that are just as arrogant, condescending, and racist toward other Blacks as any White racist, and this is clearly the case with Tavis and West [ + BITTER BOYCE]. They think that they’re above us, and that we’re undereducated and politically unsophisticated idiots that they can play to their advantage.


        With these racist remarks, I’m 100% done with any thing that Bitter Boyce has to say. His motives are entirely suspect.

        • Miranda

          That was spot on.

        • EXACTLY. And that’s the reason why TJMS audience told Tavis to kiss their ass.

          Sometimes I think Tavis and nem dislike Black people as much, or more than, racist white people.

    • Worldwatcher7

      “Sometimes the bi-racial man raised by white people in Hawaii, quite frankly, needs to be made aware of what black people are most concerned about.”

      Because in this fool’s mind a biracial person couldn’t possibly know that Black people are concerned about the murders of Black youths. And, I guess, news about Black people can’t be understood by Hawaiians.

      Boyce’s fixation on PBO’s Blackness is creepy. It’s okay to disagree about policy or PBO’s choices, but don’t make everything a Blackness test.

      • conlakappa

        Or look to his black wife, his black top advisor (while fair skinned and wealthy, she knows who she is), or his black friends to fill in any gaps? You’re right. this fixation is creepy. Like he has to prove his blackness in response to every single time he was called Oreo growing up…

    • Alma98

      My husband like many black people deal with this daily. He has been called all sorts of demeaning names for simply doing his job. Black folks at his workplace thinks that he’s suppose to let them do whatever the hell they want. Someone even started a rumor that he’s married to a white woman. Then on the other side he has white folks saying he got the job because he’s black. Never mind all the experience he brings to the table. He’s damned if he does or damned if he doesn’t, you can’t win with these people.

      • gc

        Alma, anything from AG?

        • Alma98

          No not a word I’m starting to think things must be really bad gc.

          • gc

            Yeah, me too.

          • qosine

            I’m very worried, guys. It’s been a whole week.

  • Miranda

    Progressive Pam‏@ProgressivePam
    Message to John McCain: When the Pope found himself getting old & senile, he did the right thing & resigned. Hint, hint. #p2

  • GreenLadyHere


    – -☻ —Obama’s State of the Union: Aggressive

    – – –President Barack Obama’s State of the Union speech will be less a presidential olive branch than a congressional cattle prod.

    Emboldened by electoral victory and convinced the GOP is unwilling to cut deals, Obama plans to use his big prime-time address Tuesday night to issue another broad challenge at a Republican Party he regards as vulnerable and divided, Democrats close to Obama say.

    — ——-A FIRST!! – – -Woo! Hoo! —–

    — -☻ Smart Set was the first team to be designated Colored Basketball World’s Champions, in 1908 and 1909. The team so dominated their opponents they were known as the “Grave Diggers.” –LOL

    —– –ENJOY YOUR TREAT. :>) – [Brrrrr… :>)]– –

    — —B BLESSED 2-DAY.♥ :>) – – –

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia – — -WISHIN’ him well :>) – – –

    —-Ex-Jim Clyburn aide aims to lead S.C. Dems – –

    ——–Jaime Harrison, a former top aide to Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.), is announcing his candidacy Monday for chairman of the South Carolina Democratic Party.

    Harrison has already secured the endorsement of a slew of top South Carolina Democrats, including Clyburn, former Gov. Jim Hodges, likely 2014 gubernatorial candidate Vincent Sheheen and the last three state party chairs.

    Harrison, currently the first vice chair of the South Carolina Democratic Party, would be the party’s first African-American chairman if he wins the top job at the state convention in May. — -GOOD LUCK! :>) – –

    • qosine

      Good to hear from SC! In TN, the top contender for the TN Dem Party has worked on President Obama’s campaign finance committee. I hear he’s a prodigious fund raiser and with his ties to PBO, who knows? And unlike the ratchet Rachel, OFA is moving right along. Yes. We. Can!

      • jds09

        PBO is unleashing some battle-tested hardcore organizers onto the political landscape. In addition to this, I love, love, love the fact that Jeremy Byrd is on the ground in Texas. Again, the ground is changing underneath their feet. Yes We Can!

        • qosine

          “PBO is unleashing some battle-tested hardcore organizers onto the political landscape.” — Yeah,
          I love the way you say this!

        • Ebogan63

          If Byrd and Co turn TX blue, game over for the GOP.

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia — – -SAD ANNIVERSARY —-RIHEP — -Dear DIVA♥ —

    —–Whitney Houston’s Influence Lives On In Beyonce, Nicki Minaj, Jennifer Hudson– –

    – ——-Whitney Houston was not the first black female singer to cross over to the pop world or the first to jump from music to movies.

    But the legendary diva, who died
 one year ago today (February 11) at the age of 48 on the eve of the 2012 Grammy Awards,
 had such a profound, long-lasting impact on the pop-culture landscape that its ripples are still being felt by her legion of admirers, from such obvious acolytes as Beyoncé and Jennifer Hudson to rapper Nicki Minaj and just about every singer who steps up to the microphone on a reality singing show.

    – -[Gotta “bounce” early. :>) Sirry. MISSIN’ U/CARRYIN’ U -IN MY ♥] – —

    • Town

      Nicki Minaj?

      MTV, bye.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY Town. **BIG HUG** :>)- —

        —-***BIG fist bump*** LOL- — sorry I di-ent have TIME 2 make COMMENTS.- —I STR8 had ISSUES- —LOL

        I just wanted 2 HONOR HER MEMORY 2-DAY. :>)- –

        – ——WE WILL ALWAYS LOVE U- — Dear WHITNEY♥– — –

        Good 2 C U Town. :>)

  • Miranda

    If I had to be grossed out today…so do y’all.

    Couple Addicted to Coffee Enemas, Up to Four Times a Day

    Mike and Trina swear by their coffee. He enjoys a fine espresso grind, which is “on the cold side”; she prefers a “saturated blend” that is “warm and thicker.”

    The St. Petersburg, Fla., couple refuses to drink the caffeinated beverage, which they say is bad for their health. Instead, they use it as an enema. They each have at least 100 coffee enemas a month, 6,000 in all since their addiction began two years ago.

    “I started the whole debacle,” Trina, who did not want to reveal her last name, told “Then it took on a life of its own. I twice tried to stop and felt worse, so I do this every day and as much as I can. But it’s very time-consuming.”

    “I love the way it makes me feel,” said Trina. “It gives me a sense of euphoria.

    more here

    • Town

      “I love the way it makes me feel,” said Trina. “It gives me a sense of euphoria.


      I know I feel good after a huge dump, but this is ridiculous.

    • GN

      Yikes! lol.

    • qosine


    • Daltex82

      I wonder which orifice they use for the bagel.

    • Kennymack1971

      100? Really? Ight then…

    • What the hail they eating that they need all those enemas???

      • conlakappa

        Once they started with it, their sphincter muscles probably aren’t accustomed to working on their own any more.

    • PBomb

      The overuse of enemas is worse than the food they are consuming. You are not supposed to overflush yourself like that.


    • conlakappa

      Ms. Jackson [really, I’d have to be nasty if dealing with this topic] has long been reported to be a coffee enema… aficionada.

  • Miranda

    For some reason…I believe POTUS knew Ryan would be sitting right there front and center. LOL

    How The White House Inadvertently Blasted Paul Ryan’s Budget To His Face

    PBS’ “FRONTLINE” this week details Washington, D.C.’s recent budget battles, with one scene taking a look at a speech during which President Obama’s eviscerated Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) budget.

    In the April 2011 speech at George Washington University, Obama sharply criticized Ryan’s proposal to privatize Medicare, saying, “It’s a vision that says America can’t afford to keep the promise we’ve made to care for our seniors. It says that ten years from now, if you’re a 65 year old who’s eligible for Medicare, you should have to pay nearly $6,400 more than you would today. It says instead of guaranteed health care, you will get a voucher. And if that voucher isn’t worth enough to buy insurance, tough luck – you’re on your own. Put simply, it ends Medicare as we know it.”

    Ryan called the speech a “partisan broadside,” and other Republican leaders voiced similar sentiments.

    According to the “FRONTLINE” report, top administration officials didn’t expect Ryan to attend the speech. Bill Daley, the White House chief of staff at the time, tried to warn Obama of Ryan’s presence, but didn’t get to him in time. And with the bright lights shining on stage, blocking his view of the crowd, the President went ahead with his critique.
    more here:

    • Daltex82

      tried to warn Obama of Ryan’s presence, but didn’t get to him in time. And with the bright lights shining on stage, blocking his view of the crowd, the President went ahead with his critique.

      That’s their story and they’re sticking to it.

      • Miranda


    • Town

      Bill Daley, the White House chief of staff at the time, tried to warn Obama of Ryan’s presence, but didn’t get to him in time. And with the bright lights shining on stage, blocking his view of the crowd, the President went ahead with his critique.

      Obama knew Ryan was front & center and had no f*cks to give…

      • jds09

        Their egos will not allow them to believe this, on either side of the aisle. They cannot accept that there are things more important than their feelings. lol

    • qosine

      Calling out Ryan on his kill Medicare plan (and PBO knew he was out there) is one of my FAVORITE (of many) moments of PBO’s Term 1 (like GLH, I love saying that!).

  • rikyrah

    Graham: ‘No confirmation without information’
    By Steve Benen
    Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:30 AM EST.

    Sen. Lindsey Graham’s (R-S.C.) threats of political reprisals have recently become a running joke, which have made the Republican senator look rather foolish. But he showed on “Face the Nation” yesterday, Graham doesn’t seem to care.

    For those who can’t watch clips online, CBS’s Bob Scieffer asked Graham whether he’s prepared to block votes on Defense Secretary nominee Chuck Hagel and CIA Director nominee John Brennan. Graham said he would, because he wants more information on the Benghazi attacks from last fall.

    “I want to know who changed the talking points,” Graham said. “Who took the references to al Qaeda out of the talking points given to Susan Rice? We still don’t know…. No confirmation without information.”

    It’s hard to overstate how ridiculous Graham is being. Every question he’s asked has been answered. Every person he’s sought testimony from — David Petraeus, Hillary Clinton, Leon Panetta, et al — has already given testimony. At this point, Graham appears to be throwing partisan tantrums just for the sake of throwing partisan tantrums. For crying out loud, the “who changed the talking points” question was resolved in early December, as Graham surely knows.

  • Miranda

    Mother Of Slain Chicago Teen To Attend State Of The Union Address

    Cleopatra Pendleton, mother of slain Chicago teen Hadiya Pendleton, will be Michelle Obama’s guest at the State of the Union on Tuesday.

    Pendleton was part of the King Collage Prep High School band that performed at several inaugural events in Washington. The First Lady attended Pendleton’s funeral on Saturday.

    Another mother, Carolyn Murray, who lost her 19-year-old son to a shooting, will also attend the speech as the guest of Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL). Murray began “a community gun buyback program” in response to her son’s death.

    President Obama is expected to call on Congress to adopt his comprehensive proposal to reduce gun violence. Democratic lawmakers have already introduced various measures to ban military-style weapons and a bipartisan group of lawmakers are working on legislation to expand background checks to all gun purchases and crackdown on gun trafficking.

  • rikyrah

    Reagan-Appointed Judge On Race: ‘Eleanor Roosevelt Said Staffs Of One Color Always Work Better’

    By Ian Millhiser on Feb 7, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    A Texas civil rights group filed a complaint against Judge Lynn N. Hughes, a Ronald Reagan-appointee to a federal district court in Texas, criticizing his “outlandish racial comments” in a case brought by a South Asian man alleging employment discrimination:

    At one point, during a hearing in a racial discrimination case, Hughes reportedly said, “Eleanor Roosevelt said staffs of one color always work better.”

    During the same hearing, Hughes also reportedly questioned the role of diversity programs.

    “Why don’t they just hire people and let diversity take care of itself?” Hughes asked, according to the group’s complaint. “And what does the diversity director do? Go around and painting (sic) students different colors so that they would think they were mixed?”

    Judge Hughes also claimed in the hearing that South Asians are “Causcausian” and that this explains “why Adolph Hitler used the swastika.”

  • rikyrah

    What to Expect This Year?

    by BooMan
    Mon Feb 11th, 2013 at 11:00:56 AM EST

    I think some people are getting a little carried away with the idea that bipartisanship has broken out on Capitol Hill. But that doesn’t mean that this Congress will be as unproductive as the last one. Setting aside the crisis over the sequester, there are bills that have a decent chance of becoming law with bipartisan support. I think the president will feel satisfied that he had a good year if he can pass the following:
    1. A renewal of the Violence Against Women Act- that this is even in question is pathetic, but it will probably get done.
    2. Gun violence control- a bill that creates a universal background check (closing the gun show loophole) and bans high-capacity magazines seems possible and should be considered a success.
    3. Cybersecurity- this is an unsexy subject, but it’s important and it will probably get done.
    4. Immigration reform- this is the biggie. If it passes with a pathway to citizenship, the president will be able to claim a giant victory.

  • Miranda

    Hmmmm, betta not try any funny business. Just wondering since this vote taking place on the day of the SOTU address.

    Senate panel plans vote on Hagel for Tuesday

    (Reuters) – Senator Carl Levin, chairman of the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee, plans to seek a vote on Chuck Hagel’s nomination as President Barack Obama’s new secretary of defense during a meeting on Tuesday afternoon, the committee said on Monday.

    Hagel, a Republican and former Nebraska senator, has been the target of harsh criticism from senators in his own party.

    Levin intends to have the committee vote on Hagel’s nomination after its members have an opportunity for discussion.

    • Town

      There was a rumor the entire GOP was going to walk out on the vote.

      • Miranda

        I heard…now McCain trying to squash it. They will look so silly and petty and then PBO will call them straight out on national TV that night if they do this shit.

        • conlakappa

          But we know they are both dumb and trifling enough to do it.

  • Alma98

    Morning all.

  • Alma98

    What John Amos says in this clip at 1:44 about a false sense of inclusion is so true.

  • Miranda
    • And instead of taking the L and moving on, this Josh person was still tweeting!

      • qosine

        Tweet falling in a forest?

    • conlakappa

      It’s all because of BWD,you know…

  • Miranda

    Rick Klein ‏@rickklein
    McCain statement on Hagel: “I will not participate in any walkout of tomorrow’s Committee vote…”

    • Alma98

      Whenever I see McCain this is what I hear.

    • Charley Horse?

  • Miranda

    Doctors for America ‏@Drsforamerica
    Thanks to #ACA #obamacare tools, for every $1 spent to combat health care fraud, the gov’t recovered $7.90 #Dr4A #hcsm

  • Oh, well looky here!

    White House Rules Out Raising Medicare Eligibility Age
    Sahil Kapur February 11, 2013, 1:55 PM 133

    The White House on Monday categorically ruled out raising the Medicare eligibility age as part of deficit reduction.

    Asked during his daily press briefing if President Obama is willing to consider the idea, spokesman Jay Carney said, “No.”

    “The president’s made clear that we don’t believe that’s the right policy to take,” he told reporters.


    • qosine

      And emos cry.

      • conlakappa

        They had already pivoted onto drones so, phew, outrage runs unabated!!!1 of rage!!

    • Ebogan63

      Oh, but the frat boy crew posted this: Obama Now Opposed To Raising Medicare Eligibility Age
      By Zeke Miller @ZekeJMiller

      Chained-CPI still on the table
      BuzzFeed @BuzzFeed · Follow

      Still on that ‘chained CPI’ bullshit, eh, frat boys?

      • I truly believe Ben Smith and his Buzzfeed crew are on the Republican payroll.

        • qosine

          They just love saying that “chained” part.

    • PBomb

      All this means is that PBO has thrown someone under the bus, somewhere….

  • Are you freaking kidding me??? Ted Nugent threatened the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES and this mofo invites him to the SOTU address???

    GOPer Who Threatened Obama With Impeachment Over Guns Invites Ted Nugent To The State Of The Union
    Evan McMorris-Santoro February 11, 2013, 2:15 PM 134

    Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX), who threatened President Obama with impeachment over his plan to reduce gun violence, has offered a ticket to the State of the Union tickets to Ted Nugent — whose criticism of the president once resulted in a sitdown with the Secret Service.

    “I am excited to have a patriot like Ted Nugent joining me in the House Chamber to hear from President Obama,” Stockman said in a statement Monday. “After the Address I’m sure Ted will have plenty to say.”


    • conlakappa

      Gross. He is just trying to start something with the Secret Service so they can start yelling about free speech. That Nugent has used incredibly violent and homoerotic imagery to describe what he wants to do to first Candidate Obama and then President Obama must have gotten lost in the sauce. But this is Nugent we’re talking about–will he leave town without a diddling with a minor charge?

    • Miranda

      SMH…these utterly repulsive people.

    • GOVCHRIS1988

      That “outreach” program is working SO WELL!!

  • Miranda

    Afternoon thread is up!

  • rikyrah

    found this in the comments elsewhere about the Pope’s resignation:

    The Pope resigns shortly after he’s burgled by his butler who he then pardons. Maybe it’s cuz I watched Mea Maxima Culpa last night but I simply cannot believe someone isn’t forcing him to do this as penance for something he covered up. There is some Godfather III stuff goin’ on here.

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia- — – -LOL —AHA!!- — BOK! BOK! –LOL- –

    – — Republicans Ditch Plan To Walk Out On Hagel Vote– –HAH!!!- –

    – — Earlier reports that Republicans were planning on walking out on tomorrow’s confirmation vote on Chuck Hagel to become Secretary of Defense have proven to be a bust, according to information relayed to ThinkProgress.

    On Sunday, Politico sourced “GOP aides” in reporting that some Republican members of the Senate Armed Services committee were “considering the possibility of walking out” during the procedure, rather than casting a vote. This morning, Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) set the confirmation vote for Hagel at 2:30 PM Tuesday. Soon thereafter, The Hill reported that neither Ranking Member Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) nor Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) had plans to join any walk-out.

    Further questioning revealed no stomach for the GOP to walk out after all. Staffers reached in the office of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) hadn’t heard of the bid to walkout and were unable to confirm whether the Senator backed the proposal. However, a staffer in the office of Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) — by no means a supporter of Hagel’s nomination bid — confirmed to ThinkProgress that there are no longer any Republicans who plan on walking out during tomorrow’s meeting.

  • GreenLadyHere

    – – –A SPECIAL BLESSING!!- — ***tears*** annnd ***smiles***- —

    – — – –Obama to visit Chicago after State of the Union, Hadiya Pendleton’s mother will be first lady’s guest – —

    – — –President Obama will visit Chicago on Friday, and Hadiya Pendleton’s mother Cleoaptra will be a guest of the first lady at Tuesday’s State of the Union address, as the White House continues its push to change gun control laws.

    Both moves reflect a growing concern and awareness by the Obama administration of both the overall problem of gun violence in Chicago, the city where the Obamas spent much of their adult life, and the shooting death of the 15-year-old Pendleton, who had performed with her high school band during the inauguration in Washington only days before she was shot in a Chicago park . . . .
    THERE IS MORE!- – –

    —HATAS- —-“ZIP IT!!”!!!- — – –