September 23, 2017

Monday Open Thread: Little Known Black Media Publications of the 18th and 19th Centuries

Good Morning POU! This week’s topic is full of tidbits that amount to “Nothing new is under the sun.”

This week we will look at newspapers and magazines that were published by and for black people in the 18th and early 19th centuries. All now defunct but were very important at getting out information to black people against all odds at the time. Today we’re looking at The Colored American Magazine and the controversy surrounding its publisher, a white investor and the direction of the magazine. Please post your thoughts on what happened (I’m sure it will raise your eyebrows as it did mine…side-eyes for days on this one).

The Colored American Magazine was the first American monthly publication that covered African-American culture. The magazine ran from May 1900 to November 1909. It was initially published out of Boston by the Colored Co-Operative Publishing Company, and from 1904, forward, by Moore Publishing and Printing Company of New York. Pauline Hopkins, its most prolific writer from the beginning, sat on the board as a shareholder, was editor from 1902 to 1904, though her name was not on the masthead until 1903. Hopkins was a journalist, playwright, historian, and literary. In 1904, Booker T. Washington, in a hostile takeover, purchased the magazine and replaced Hopkins with Fred Randolph Moore (1857–1943) as editor.

The Colored American Magazine was founded by Walter Wallace, Jesse W. Watkins, Harper S. Fortune, and Walter Alexander Johnson. The holding company was named The Colored Co-Operative Publishing Company. On May 13, 1903, William H. Dupree (1839–1934), and Jesse W. Watkins purchased the magazine from the Colored Co-operative Publishing Company and renamed the holding company The Colored American Publishing Company. Their aim was to redeem the magazine, financially, and to secure its location in Boston with Hopkins as editor.

Pauline Hopkins

John C. Freund (1848–1924), London-born and Oxford educated co-founder and influential editor of two New York magazines, The Music Trades and Musical America, became an outside investor in the magazine in 1903. Recently, beginning around 1996, after the rediscovery of 20 letters in the Pauline Hopkins Collection at the Fisk University Library, scholars show that Hopkins sensed that Freund had conspired with Booker T. Washington to replace her as editor — to quell her outspokenness on racial matters, which in that era, was a prevailing taboo in the minds of many whites. Freund, a white man, and Washington, an African American man, prevailed against Hopkins, an African American woman.

The letters reveal that Hopkins, a well-articulated and influential editor, was a victim of sexism and nuanced racism that was masked by the enlisted cooperation of Washington. Freund apparently believed, and perhaps Washington believed, that directness, about race issues, and racial activism by the magazine would do more harm than good — it would generate greater racial discord in society, harm the economic viability of the magazine, drive away white readership, marginalize the potential for the magazine to win support of whites who otherwise harbored cynical views towards racial equality.  Freund felt that the goal of the magazine was to “first—record the work the colored people are doing; second—to make the whites acquainted with it.” Freund opposed writers who felt that advancing bravely also required historic retrospection. In other instances, Freund had rallied support towards helping African Americans succeed and he patronized those who had attained success, which included financial support and published critical acclaim for the People’s Chorus, directed by Emma Azalia Hackley (1867–1922). The upshot was that Hopkins believed, as documented in her letters, that Freund’s altruistic gestures towards helping her and the magazine were actually a ploy to oust her and take control of the magazine’s political content. There are differing views on Freund and Washington’s motives, and differing views on who led the charge, but there is little debate on how Hopkins perceived it.

From the start, the Colored American Magazine was politically engaged, and as conflicts arose among black intellectuals (often symbolized by, but by no means reducible to, Booker T. Washington’s compromise versus W.E.B. Du Bois’s agitation), the Colored American Magazine was secretly purchased by Washington’s agent Fred Moore.

Moore was a strong believer in Booker T. Washington’s racial accommodationist philosophy.  In 1904, Booker T. Washington approached Moore and asked him to become an organizer for the National Negro Business League which encouraged blacks to start their own businesses. In 1905, with secret funds from Booker T. Washington (given to him by Freund), Moore became editor and part-owner of Boston’s Colored American Magazine.  Moore used the magazine to examine the horrors of lynching and the psychological effects of segregation.  He also used it to defend his mentor, Washington, from attacks by critics of the Tuskegee philosophy.

The magazine’s operations were moved away from the radicalism of Boston to New York.  Although Hopkins did relocate to New York briefly, Moore’s purchase at the behest of Washington, ended her influence and soon thereafter her career at the magazine.  A testament to Hopkins’s popularity was her immediate hiring by the Voice of the Negro, a national monthly which was similar in scope to the Colored American Magazine though it was much more sharply critical of Washington and his associates.

  • MonieTalks
    • rikyrah

      Uh uh uh

  • MonieTalks

    Morning rikyrah, POU!

    • rikyrah

      Morning Monie

  • Joy

    Morning, rikyrah and POU!

    • rikyrah

      Morning Joy

  • Kennymack1971

    Good morning POU Family. So this R Kelly article in Buzzfeed….ugh.

    • Miranda

      What’s incredibly shameful is these aren’t even the worst things I’ve read about Kellz. He has been a known sexually deranged pervert for decades. For once the story isn’t about the 9th and 10th graders he is known to stalk. What I am most sad about is the parents of the 19 yr old in Georgia that thought “oh he can help with her singing career” when they BOTH KNEW ABOUT HIS PAST….now your daughter will need therapy for years if she ever gets away from him and you let that shit happen.

      • Kennymack1971

        That’s what keeps bothering me about this. He’s a KNOWN sexual predator. The stories have been out there in detail for years how he gets down and yet you’d take your daughter to him to get her put on? Just horrible.

        • BoomerGal

          Desperate people do desperate things.

          • Miranda

            But what were they desperate for, because they weren’t poor, homeless, hungry…they were desperate for their daughter to get fame and fortune and for that they get no sympathy from me.

          • BoomerGal

            Yep!

    • rikyrah

      Morning KennyM

    • Joy

      Mornting!

    • MsKitty

      Morning Kennymack

      I’m just logging on…do I even wanna know? Sigh.

  • MonieTalks

    Everybody in the mentions was like…hold up, dude where have you been. GOP ALWAYS get the most slots on news programs. PERIOD. Barro is such a hack.

    https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/886557816810590210

    • MonieTalks

      After the pushback, look at this hack’s response:

      https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/886559549376868352

      • Miranda

        That was the most bitchass response. He is pathetic.

      • adept2u

        That is the mediocrity of White men on full display. I followed 50 Black women that could wipe the floor with his intellect and carry on a convo with their Moms with the other 90% of their brains.

    • Kennymack1971

      I’m glad Barro has been exposed as the two bit hack he always was.

  • BoomerGal

    Good Monday Morning, POU! Hope everyone had a enjoyable and restful weekend. Blessings to all and have a good one!

    • rikyrah

      Morning BoomerG

      • BoomerGal

        Morning, rikyrah

    • MsKitty

      Morning BoomerGal

      • BoomerGal

        Morning, MsKitty

    • Alma98

      Morning BG

      • BoomerGal

        Morning, Alma

  • BoomerGal

    It’s not even ‘close’, IT IS a laughingstock!

    America ‘close to a laughingstock’: Former government ethics chief rips Trump for running US into…

    Source: RawStory

    America ‘close to a laughingstock’: Former government ethics chief rips Trump for running US into the ground

    BRAD REED
    17 JUL 2017 AT 08:39 ET

    Walter Shaub, the outgoing chief of the Government Ethics Office, has told the New York Times that President Donald Trump has made America the butt of jokes when it comes to ethical standards in government.

    “It’s hard for the United States to pursue international anticorruption and ethics initiatives when we’re not even keeping our own side of the street clean,” said Shaub of Trump’s assorted scandals, including the president’s use of his office to blatantly promote his own private business interests. “It affects our credibility… I think we are pretty close to a laughingstock at this point.”

    Shaub thinks Trump’s repeated trips to his own businesses — most notoriously his weekend jaunts to his Mar-a-Lago resort, as well as most recently one of his golf clubs this past weekend to attend the U.S. Women’s Open tournament — make it look like the office of the presidency is one giant advertisement for Trump’s family enterprises.

    “It creates the appearance of profiting from the presidency,” Shaub said. “Misuse of position is really the heart of the ethics program, and the internationally accepted definition of corruption is abuse of entrusted power. It undermines the government ethics program by casting doubt on the integrity of government decision making.”

    Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/america-close-to-a-laughingstock-former-government-ethics-chief-rips-trump-for-running-us-into-the-ground/

  • BoomerGal

    Al Gore: Trump is first president to deliberately ‘tear down America’s standing in the world’

    Source: RawStory

    BRAD REED
    17 JUL 2017 AT 07:58 ET

    Former Vice President Al Gore appeared on NBC’s Today on Monday to discuss his deep disappointment with President Donald Trump’s decision to withdraw from the Paris climate accord.

    Gore noted that he had a meeting with Trump late last year where he came away optimistic that the president wouldn’t hastily withdraw from the Paris deal, if for no other reason than it would hurt America’s standing as a world leader.

    Now, however, he doesn’t have any optimism that we’ll see any kind of leadership from Trump on addressing climate change.

    “We’ve never had a president who’s deliberately made decisions… to tear down America’s standing in the world,” Gore told Willie Geist. “The climate crisis is by far the most serious challenge we face. But he’s also undermined our alliances, sRead more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/al-gore-trump-is-first-president-to-deliberately-tear-down-americas-standing-in-the-world/ uch as NATO, and hurt our standing in the world in many ways.”

    • The guy Gore lost to did a pretty good job of it as well.

      • Town

        I don’t think Bush set out to destroy America’s standing, though. As bad as Bush/Cheney was, I don’t even see CHENEY deliberately tearing down America’s reputation.

        Trump is, though, just to get back at Obama.

        Gore is stuck on stupid if he thought Trump was going to operate on good faith and that goes for ANYONE (Steve Harvey, Mitt Romney, Chrisette Michele, Trump voters, etc) who thought he would.

        • They may not have started out with that intent but it didn’t take them long (six months I think) to go down that road.

          • BoomerGal

            They had enough scandals. That’s for sure.

          • Town

            Trump has the intent, though. There’s a difference between sheer incompetence (Bush) and sheer incompetence PLUS sabotage.

            One, you can get rid of the incompetent persona and reverse course.

            The other, you will take years, even decades, if ever, to recover.

  • BoomerGal

    A craft fair at the WH! LOL!!!

    Donald Trump’s ‘Made in America’ week marred by criticism of company’s overseas manufacturing deal

    Source: Independent

    White House initiative undermined by Trump Organization’s habit of taking advantage of cheap labour in foreign climes

    3 hours ago

    ……………………….
    ……………

    The week will begin Monday with a “Made in America product showcase” featuring crafts and other items created in each of the 50 states. The president plans to issue a declaration Wednesday and deliver remarks on the importance of making things in the United States. And Saturday, Trump will travel to Norfolk to attend the commissioning of the USS Gerald R. Ford, the first in the Navy’s new class of nuclear-powered aircraft carriers.

    “This week the Trump administration will honour the amazing American workers and companies who have products that are made in America,” Helen Ferre, the White House’s director of media affairs, told reporters at a briefing here Sunday. She said America sets “the world standard for quality and craftsmanship.”

    For Trump, highlighting US-made products is inconsistent with his practices as a businessman. For years, the Trump Organization has outsourced much of its product manufacturing, relying on a global network of factories in a dozen countries – including Bangladesh, China and Mexico – to make its clothing, home decor pieces and other items.

    Similarly, the clothing line of Ivanka Trump, the President’s older daughter and a senior White House adviser, relies exclusively on foreign factories employing low-wage workers in countries such as Bangladesh, Indonesia and China, according to a recent Washington Post investigation…………………………

    Asked at Sunday’s briefing whether “Made in America” week would include a commitment from the Trump Organization or Ivanka Trump’s company to make more of their products in the United States, Ferre told reporters, “We’ll get back to you on that.”………………….Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-made-in-america-week-overseas-manufacturing-products-outsourcing-a7844651.html

  • Miranda

    No Keith, she was fully awake…. but he was a white man representing white supremacy during the whole campaign so whatever he said didn’t really matter.
    https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/886926033177464832

    • Kennymack1971

      Let me get this out the way….

      Fuck you white lady.

      And…..

      FUCK YOU MAYO NATION

      • BoomerGal

        THANK YOU!!

      • rikyrah

        Thanks for the daily affirmation

    • jds09

      Soooo…..nine years of birtherism and a campaign based on building a wall wasn’t enough……

  • Miranda
    • BoomerGal

      LOL!!!

  • Miranda

    So where are all those “but drones!!!!” crowd now? Oh, so they stopped caring about brown folks being killed as of Nov 9, 2016??

    https://twitter.com/samstein/status/886749680494944256

    • adept2u

      They are a blight on the human collective soul. Trump positively destroyed an entire creche of children sleeping in their beds. Put bullets to them eye to eye contact and those motherfuckers said nothing. They called Barack Obama a murderer when that dude’s 16 year old son got clipped. It was an entire nursery of children shot down and Van Jones called him Presidential for the same shit soon after.

  • BoomerGal

    Wow! From drought, light rain to flash flood!

    Arizona flash flood sweeps away family relaxing in swimming hole, killing 9

    Source: Washington Post

    It began as yet another scorching Saturday in central Arizona as scores of families flocked to the cool waters of a popular swimming hole, seeking relief from the 100-degree temperatures in the cities.

    Among them was an extended family of 14 from Phoenix. They gathered at the Cold Springs swimming hole in the Tonto National Forest, near Payson, to celebrate Maria Raya’s 26th birthday, their relatives told local media.

    At about 3 p.m., it was barely drizzling as the Raya family and others waded in the water and hiked along the narrow canyon, its scenic waterfall and granite rock formations in the backdrop.

    Suddenly the adults and children swimming in the canyon heard a roar. As they turned to look upstream, they saw a massive wall of dark muddy water rushing toward them, carrying tree trunks and logs the sizes of vehicles, Ron Sattelmaier, Water Wheel Fire and Medical District fire chief, told The Washington Post, citing interviews with witnesses.

    Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/07/17/az-flash-flood-sweeps-away-family-relaxing-in-swimming-hole-9-perish/?utm_term=.307bc2bb4ed9

  • Miranda

    Bitch if you don’t go somewhere with this shit! LOL, Delta already put your ass on blast and said fuck it, take ya $30 and jump off a cliff for all we care…now you talking bout it cost you $10k in your time. LOLOL, WTF..”investigate type of plane”…….*CACKLING LOUDLY*
    https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/886805217538396160

    • Joy

      Bitch, take the L.

    • Kennymack1971

      Go sit your ass down somewhere Ann.

    • crazycanuck1503

      Wtf, she is crazy

    • jds09

      Please somebody with time on your hands, please calulate this based upon her speaking fees, book sales etc….

      LOL

      If corporate America is beginning to say “seat your ass down” to these people…that’s interesting.

  • Admiral_Komack

    Australian ‘healer’ mourned after shooting by Minneapolis police

    MINNEAPOLIS — Hundreds of people gathered at the entrance of an alleyway in southwest Minneapolis Sunday evening to mourn a woman who was shot and killed by police there Saturday night. 

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/07/17/australian-healer-mourned-after-shooting-minneapolis-police/483498001/

    • Miranda

      SMDH
      This is going to be very interesting…the reactions, charges (if any).

    • adept2u

      Ooooh so they’ve branched out onto executing White women have they? The police in America are an animus force and I would fire every last one of their asses and make them reapply with a lie detector.

    • BoomerGal

      Well, well. A few more like this and some type of reform might actually happen.

    • Alma98

      They’re already twisting themselves in knots in the comments.

    • rikyrah

      Been interested in this story and the reaction

    • TyrenM

      We might really see some change here. Last week dogs. This week, WF.

  • Miranda

    This is great. I love the authentic reactions.
    https://twitter.com/HiWatchThis/status/886619950659641348

    • Town

      The white women seem to have less of a problem with it than the white men (except that one white guy who got it). The women overall seemed to “get it”, the men not so much.

      • Miranda

        That white lady tickled me when she did the money thing with her hands. LOL

    • rikyrah

      Hmmm

    • Alma98

      I know a lot of folks love Jay-Z but I can’t stand his voice. It irritates me to no end lol.

    • That’s a great video.

  • MsKitty

    Morning Alma

    • Alma98

      Morning MsKitty

  • Miranda

    Another GOP state doing GOP things..and she’s not mad they’re going to kill her off.
    —————————–
    Thousands of elderly Missourians are about to be cut from prescription drug program
    More than 60,000 elderly Missourians got a letter from the state last month informing them they were about to be cut off from a program that had helped them pay for prescription drugs.

    Marjorie Prunty, 74, of Platte County, remembers what she thought when her letter arrived. “I’m going to die.”

    In May, state lawmakers voted to save $15 million in the state’s $27 billion budget by cutting a state program called MORx.
    […]
    “I voted for these people. I’m not mad at them,” she said. “They just don’t understand. They don’t know what it’s like to be poor. They can’t identify with us.”
    https://twitter.com/sarahkendzior/status/886925803665203200

    • Kennymack1971

      “I voted for these people. I’m not mad at them,”

      Well if you like it I love it boo.

    • Alma98

      15mil don’t even make a dent in 27 billion so what are they doing with that money? It’s so specific.

    • nellcote

      wonder what it would take to get mad at them.

  • MsKitty

    Morning rikyrah

    • rikyrah

      Morning MsKitty

  • jds09

    Good morning POU Fam!

    • MsKitty

      Morning jds.

    • rikyrah

      Morning jds

  • jziglar

    So from the reports about McCain’s condition and surgery it’s very serious and he could be out far longer than what they initially reported. I bet McConnell is pretending that he will be in good shape to come back next week, but from what I’m hearing many don’t think that’s possible. It would be karma if McCain was out for weeks, and then the senate has to go on recess and not come back till September which by then will cause Trumpcare to die.

    • adept2u

      They’ll wheel his half dead corpse in there to mumble Aye if they get close enough.

      • BoomerGal

        LOL!!!

      • jziglar

        Yep, but that’s assuming they have the votes and right now they don’t. The last thing the turtle wanted was something like this to happen. Now the vote is uncertain and the opposition is mobilizing, and the CBO report on Trumpcare is going to be all over the media around the country which will only embolden the opposition. But like you said McConnell is very desperate. LOL!

      • MsKitty
        • Alma98

          hahahaha

        • Miranda

          LOLOLOLOLOL

        • jds09

          This is how POU keeps me sane. LOLOLOLOL

    • rikyrah

      Uh huh

    • sagittarius

      I think that there is something amiss. You don’t biopsy a blood clot.

  • crazycanuck1503

    Morning Alma

    • Alma98

      Morning cc

  • Miranda

    Chile…………and the rest of the week gets NO BETTER – so much I didn’t know, but “knew”. As in, I knew Booker T. was that kneegrow, but damn……reading about the media wars of black newspapers and magazines at that time and how he manipulated it with white folks just broke my heart.

    • TyrenM

      Mom told me between BT and W.E.B., she was Team W.E.B. all day.

      • I get Washington in some ways. Dubois was his bitter rival but he may have summed it up best about Booker T.

        “Actually Washington had no more faith in the white man than I did. His thinking was when you have your head in the lion’s mouth use your free hand to pet it ”

        His white patrons didn’t mind giving him money to build schools. Black economic power was something totally different and they wanted no parts of it.

        His major mistake was trying to consolidate power and be the go to Negro. Don’t make massa mad was kind of stupid given no matter what Black people did made them mad.

        But I don’t just blame him. If he and Garvey, Dubois and Randolph had worked together it would have been something powerful.

  • MonieTalks
    • Kennymack1971

      Mannnnnn…the fuckery.

    • jds09

      Putin knows that the IC hammer is coming, meanwhile he will relentlessly emasculate and embarass the President of the United States before the world.

      SMH

      • JojoRaze

        This is why I’m side-eyeing the Russians speaking now about 45. They know the hammer is coming and they are going to take 45 down with them.

        • BoomerGal

          GOOD! They can have him and the whole crime family.

    • Miranda

      Putin gonna make Trump stroll hard because he knows those compounds are not going back to Russia control, and he’s pissed about that. Trump’s gonna be tweeting all kinds of mumbo-jumbo to defend Russia.

    • adept2u

      Leading from behind?
      These people are on their knees.

  • Kennymack1971

    The Gov had time this morning! This Twitter thread is the damn truth!
    https://twitter.com/anotherslyfox/status/886950386069852160

    • BoomerGal

      Shiiiiiiiiiiit

    • Miranda

      The truth and nothing but the truth.

    • nellcote

      that thread should run as an op-ed in the WashingtonPost.

    • GOVCHRIS1988

      I was off work today, so I just went to it. Thanks so much, folks. It was on my mind.

      • MsKitty

        Outstanding!

      • sagittarius

        I had to retweet it, Gov. Brilliant. Simply brilliant.

  • MonieTalks

    Just when you think the sympathy for opioid epidemic was over the top..this is some very YT shit right here. We would have NEVER seen an article as such during the height of the crack epidemic

    Crowley: Legalize marijuana to combat growing opioid epidemic

    This is a crisis. Not only for the people of Wisconsin, but for the country at large. Thankfully, the opioid crisis is being taken seriously by politicians from both sides of the aisle and steps are being taken to address the problem. However, many government officials and advocates are not considering all possibilities for solutions to this problem.

    I believe that in order to best combat the rising death toll and human costs associated with the opioid crisis, we must fully legalize marijuana use. While many states have legalized medical marijuana, Wisconsin and other states should move toward full legalization in order to best combat the opioid epidemic. In Wisconsin, Rep. Melissa Sargent recently introduced legislation that would fully legalize and regulate marijuana, and I fully support her efforts moving forward.

    http://www.jsonline.com/story/opinion/contributors/2017/07/16/crowley-legalize-marijuana-combat-growing-opioid-epidemic/479735001/

    • Kennymack1971

      What we’re seeing with opioids is how we should’ve approached the crack epidemic but y’all already know the deal.

    • BoomerGal

      Heh. That won’t help. They smoke weed as an opioid chaser.

    • Miranda

      Of course……………….now they have all these wonderful ideas on how to cope with this crisis that doesn’t involve prison sentences. whatever.

    • Alma98

      Of course some ass in the comments blames PBO, smh.

      • jziglar

        LOL! Do these people ever grow tired of the “blame Obama for everything” card. It sounds even more ridiculous now that he’s out of office. So it’s Obama’s fault that stupid white people got hooked up on drugs? While at the same time Obama signed into law a landmark bill called the Cures Act which includes provisions to help Opioid victims.

  • Miranda

    No one…but no one..knew it would be complicated *eyeroll*
    —————————-
    How the White House and Republicans underestimated Obamacare repeal

    The Trump team thought Congress would scrap the health law by late February. Nobody expected the effort to drag into the summer months.
    07/17/2017 05:06 AM EDT

    The longer Republican efforts to repeal Obamacare flounder, the clearer it becomes that President Donald Trump’s team and many in Congress dramatically underestimated the challenge of rolling back former President Barack Obama’s signature achievement.

    The Trump transition team and other Republican leaders presumed that Congress would scrap Obamacare by President’s Day weekend in late February, according to three former Republican congressional aides and two current ones familiar with the administration’s efforts.

    Republican leaders last fall planned a quick strike on the law in a series of meetings and phone calls, hoping to simply revive a 2015 repeal bill that Obama vetoed.

    Few in the administration or Republican leadership expected the effort to stretch into the summer months, with another delay announced this weekend, eating into valuable time for lawmakers to tackle tax reform, nominations or spending bills.

    As Trump himself infamously remarked, “nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated” — even though health care has reliably tripped up past administrations.

    more here: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/17/obamacare-repeal-republicans-white-house-240607

    • rikyrah

      The only thing that a lot of folks had a problem with in Obamacare.,..was Obama.
      Now that Obama is gone…they can focus in on the CARE..
      They don’t want their CARE to go.

    • Kennymack1971

      The racism and Obama hate is all shits and giggles until it affects the pocketbook. You can’t just fuck over people’s healthcare benefits and not expect blowback. And the GOP and their media enablers have no one but themselves to blame. They have the deplorables whipped up into such a frenzy to “repeal Obamacare” that they have to do something no matter how disastrous to try to save face with them. It’s pathetic.

      • jziglar

        And the interesting thing is that opposition and animus towards Obamacare has decreased among their base as it became clear what the GOP plan was all about, and the most important factor of them all: President Obama is no longer in office. With Obama no longer around it makes it harder to racialize the opposition.

    • jds09

      There’s another unspoken piece to this. In addition to hating Obama that also hated that everyone was included in it. Unlike FDR, PBO wouldn’t carve out the white advantage for them.

      MAGA meant keeping our health insurance and deep sixing everyone else.

      • rikyrah

        Yep
        Obamacare was the first expansion of the American Social Safety Net that DID NOT , in it’s design. .
        EXCLUDE swaths of the American populace.
        It took the Roberts Court for that

      • jziglar

        Right. And at that time FDR had little choice since he had to negotiate with Southern Democrats in order to get most of the legislation he wanted passed, and discrimination was blatant and legal back then. That’s why they get so upset about government because they only want government for them and no one else. The civil rights acts and other anti-discrimination laws changed everything.

        • jds09

          Some stuff not everything, they can still shoot us in the street like dogs.

          • jziglar

            True. They just don’t like the fact that they can’t design government programs to only benefit white people. They will never be happy until they can go back to the “old days”.

  • jds09

    Sad…this debate continues in a less virulent today.

  • rikyrah

    TRUTH

  • Miranda
    • BoomerGal

      OOPS!!

    • MsKitty

      Stays telling on himself.

      It’s not a matter of if but when he gives up the whole game in a tweetstorm.

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    —-NEW Info.- – – – –From the start, the Colored American Magazine was politically engaged, and as conflicts arose among black intellectuals (often symbolized by, but by no means reducible to, Booker T. Washington’s compromise versus W.E.B. Du Bois’s agitation), the Colored American Magazine was secretly purchased by Washington’s agent Fred Moore.— –

    – – -ENJOY♥- – -https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4306/35083804924_85b78c442a_b.jpg

    – – –B BLESSED♥- — SAFE♥– – -PRAYERFUL♥- –RESISTANT♥- – -:>)

    • rikyrah

      Morning GLH

      • GreenLadyHere

        Good Morntin’ rikyrah. :>) – – -**BIG HUG** :>)
        B BLESSED♥- -:>)

    • MsKitty

      Morning GLH

      • GreenLadyHere

        Good Morntin’- – – –http://www.cutecatgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Cat-Stretching-and-Yawning.gif

        *BIG HUG* :>)- – -B BLESSED♥ :>)

  • MonieTalks

    Morning Alma!

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda♥- — From- – -RESISTANT♥ –Dems.♥/Sen CHUCK Schumer♥- – — *WRITE ON*- — :>)

    – – -☺https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/886962565712158723

    — – WATCHIN’. . . .[With NO Positive Expectations. . ]

  • Miranda

    Remember dumbass trump tweeted reckless about Qatar without knowing the facts.
    https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/886907344160002048

    • nellcote

      alarming how easily they pulled that off.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda♥- – –From RESISTANT♥– WALTER Shaub♥- – –“Pretty Close”?- – –—:>)

    — – ☺https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/886967747565039616

    –COMMENTS:- – —We passed “pretty close” at a gallop last Nov.— -[WORD]- –

    – –Thanks to Donald Trump, we are a total laughingstock— – [*BIG fist bump*]

    – – – – — -☻https://twitter.com/umussbekidding/status/886970099063812096

  • BoomerGal

    Like any questionable visitors signed in, in the first place. Nice try.

    Mar-a-Lago Visitor Logs To Be Released By DHS, Watchdog Groups Claim Victory

    Source: Talking Points Memo

    By MATT SHUHAM Published JULY 17, 2017 10:42 AM

    The Department of Homeland Security will release Mar-a-Lago visitor records as part of an ongoing lawsuit from three watchdog groups.

    In a statement on its website, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) said it would make the records public “upon receiving them by September 8th.”

    On April 10, CREW, the National Security Archive and the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University sued the Department of Homeland Security for visitor records to the White House, Trump Tower and President Donald Trump’s private Mar-a-Lago resort, which frequently hosts official business including diplomatic visits by foreign leaders.

    The suit, filed in the Southern District of New York, cited multiple Freedom of Information Act requests that it alleged had been ignored by the Secret Service.

    Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mar-a-lago-visitor-logs-released-crew

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda♥- – -*Head Bow*- —A TRIBUTE♥- – – -In – -MEMORIAM♥- –– – —

    – – -☺https://twitter.com/sonsandbros/status/886933940522668032

    — – – —☻http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ak4HGlCyAQ4/U80oI03ImJI/AAAAAAAAL3A/xjrgMD23dYA/s1600/ERIC+GARNER.png

    — – With- – -CONDOLENCES♥– – -Still- -SEEKING/DEMANDING- – -JUSTICE- – -4 US♥- – -AMEN♥– –

  • lamh

    if RKelly had done what he did to some teenage white girls, his azzz would STILL be in jail

    I haven’t bee able to listen to an R Kelly song since the first “pee on u” bullshit! This makes me happy that i did

    https://www.facebook.com/verysmartbrothas/posts/10154710322265496

    • MsKitty

      I think he would be dead. Wouldn’t take much to find a corrections officer with an agenda. But of course the official story would be he hanged himself or he was shanked by another prisoner.

    • rikyrah

      Nothing but truth

    • adept2u

      That person is one of the more evil things walking about the planet.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda♥– – From- -RESISTANT♥- –Rep. TED LIEU♥- – –WORD! :>)

    – – –☺https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/886970571229020160

    – –Most politicians would have gone to a meeting like the one Don jr attended in order to get info on an opponent. That’s politics![djt]

    – – –COMMENTS:- – –He honestly doesn’t get it. Child mind. Not very smart. SAD.[TW]—[WORD]

    —– – -☻https://twitter.com/MichaelNanhu/status/886972486839087106

  • adept2u

    Riddle fun time!

    A man a plan a canal panama!

    Is the thought of the day, why?

    • Miranda

      I give!

      • adept2u

        hint:

        7

        17

        17

        • MsKitty

          I know what this is because I saw mention of it last week, but won’t spoil it for the others.

    • GreenLadyHere

      Good Morntin’ adept2u. :>) **BIG HUG** :>)

      – -Ummm- – -“WHYCOME”- – -THIS Comes 2 MIND?- – -:>)

      – – –☺http://www.prowsedge.com/images/articles/queen-victoria1.gif
      — –U/Yours♥- – –Bon Voyage. . :>)

      – –Good 2 C U♥ :>) B BLESSED♥ :>)

    • Worldwatcher7

      Morning all. Is it because it’s a palindrome?

      • adept2u

        WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!!!

  • MonieTalks

    Bernie & Jane better get ready! You in the big leagues now, finally. The GOP tastes blood.

    https://twitter.com/JudicialWatch/status/886967581680295936?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

    • adept2u

      I hope they drag him to Saturn and back.

    • GreenLadyHere

      Good Morntin’ Monie Talks. :>) **BIG HUG** :>)

      HAH!!- – –Is that — “Socialism??”- – -HYPOCRITE!!- –

      GIT!– – GIT!– -GIT!- -‘Em!!- —

      B BLESSED. :>)

    • Kennymack1971

      “Bernie woulda won”

      The RW was so ready for Bernie.

      • GOVCHRIS1988

        We know this. We KNOW they wanted Bernie. They knew how to hurt Hillary, but Bernie they would have flayed to life.

        • jds09

          Yep.

    • Admiral_Komack

      I saw an article where Jane’s crying sexism.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda♥— -HAH!- – – –RESISTANT♥- – -CALLIN’ “IT”- — OUT!!– – –
    – – –It is “Made in America” week…not “Made BY Americans.”— –

    – –EVIDENCE:- – –https://twitter.com/joyce70118/status/886976167726772226

    – – – –GIT!- — GIT!- – -GIT!– -“IT”!!

  • rikyrah

    D.L. Hughley comments on Dolt45 supporters.
    He nails them.
    I hear no lies.

    https://youtu.be/U02Ald_mEhA

    • edp4bho

      No lies indeed. Hughley’s really smart, when he’s using his common sense.

    • BoomerGal

      I hear that!

  • Miranda

    It took you until NOW to figure out they hated your black ass?
    —————————-
    Black Southern Baptist minister renounces church over its Trump support in a scathing open letter

    Oklahoma State University Diversity Coordinator Lawrence Ware Writes Op-Ed In ‘New York Times’
    17 JUL 2017 AT 11:06 ET

    Earlier this year, the leadership of the Southern Baptist Convention tried to quash a resolution that condemned the so-called “alt-right” movement and its advocacy of white supremacy.

    Although a resolution condemning the alt-right was eventually adopted, that wasn’t good enough for Lawrence Ware, who serves as co-director of the Center for Africana Studies at Oklahoma State University and who has been an ordained minister at the Southern Baptist Convention for nearly a decade.

    In a scathing open letter published in the New York Times, Ware announced that he was renouncing his denomination over its hesitancy to condemn white supremacy, as well as what he describes as its members support for President Donald Trump.

    “As a black scholar of race and a minister who is committed to social justice, I can no longer be part of an organization that is complicit in the disturbing rise of the so-called alt-right, whose members support the abhorrent policies of Donald Trump and whose troubling racial history and current actions reveal a deep commitment to white supremacy,” he writes.
    https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/886941977845129220

  • Miranda

    Break-in and threatening note reported at office of GOP senator opposed to Trumpcare bill
    Jul 16, 2017 11:43 PM PDT

    LAS VEGAS – A threatening note was left for Senator Dean Heller after someone broke into his Las Vegas office Saturday morning, according to an 8 News NOW source close to the story.

    The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department confirms there was an entry made to the offices located at 8930 W. Sunset which is the location of Sen. Heller’s office.

    LVMPD would not confirm the information about the threatening note.
    —————
    Heller is one of the Republican senators who has thus far refused to endorse Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s bill to “repeal and replace” Obamacare. He has been the target of a far-right “astroturfing” campaign in which the Trump-aligned group America First Priorities spent $250,000 to place anti-Heller stories on social media.

    http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/break-in-at-sen-hellers-las-vegas-office/766978424

  • Miranda

    Vice chair of Trump’s voter fraud commission wants to change federal law to add new requirements for voting, email shows
    July 17, 2017

    The day after Donald Trump was elected president, Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, now the vice-chair of Donald Trump’s commission on voter fraud, told Trump’s transition team of a proposal to change federal law to allow stricter requirements on voter registration.

    Kobach’s team was “putting together information on legislation drafts for submission to Congress early in the administration,” Kobach wrote to transition team member Gene Hamilton in an email. “I have some already started regarding amendments to the NVRA [National Voter Registration Act] to make clear that proof of citizenship requirements are permitted (based on my ongoing litigation with the ACLU over this).”
    https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/886986136345874434

  • nellcote
  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda♥—-From RESISTANT♥- –“Auntie Maxine”♥- – –WORD. . .– – :>)

    — -☺https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/886979311869108224

    – – – – -☻https://twitter.com/HouStOneChiCanO/status/886988905303744512

    – — STAYIN’- – –On —“IT”- — :>)

    • rikyrah

      No lies told

      • GreenLadyHere

        rikyrah- – -She STAYS On ’em- –Daily- –with TRUTH. :>)

  • nellcote
    • Town

      Translation:

      Shut down H1-B Visas: Rajiv, Hardeep, Ming & Reza can’t come over here no more taking our high paying tech jobs. Make America Great Again!

      Pump up H2-B Visas: Lupe, Jose Maria, Hector & Quynh can clean the toilets at the Best Westerns & sweep up vomit & debris at Six Flags. Make America Great Again!

      • rikyrah

        Truth

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda♥– – –From– -RESISTANT♥- – -KEITH Boykin♥- – –WORD!– —

    — -☺https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/886978618638913536

    — –COMMENTS:— Have we explored it might be intentional? Incompetence is a front, in this case. What better way to grab more power?- – –Annnd- –It’s not incompetence. Putin doesn’t want his newest colony to have the ability to self govern.– – –

    – —they don’t want government agencies to function. why appoint nominees to run the agencies?– —

  • MsKitty

    I’m probably too late for all the memes, but this one here LOL

    https://twitter.com/NOTSportsCenter/status/886995315768918018

    • Miranda

      HAHAHAHA!

      Dak, please get your RB and put him in your basement until training camp….Zeke doesn’t realize there is a target on his back you can see from space.

      signed,
      every Cowboys fan.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda♥– –RESISTANT♥- – -GOVs♥- – – – -WORD!– – –

    – – -☺https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/886962445369171968

    — -COMMENT:– –Continue 2 CALL Them:– — https://twitter.com/HouseCallsAHCA/status/886964713296474113

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda♥- – –Newbie EMOJIS- – —– —

    — -☺https://twitter.com/MatthewACherry/status/886985198994300928

    — – –WATCHIN’– — 4 More of US/POC. . :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda♥– –*Gentle Sigh*- -:>)- – –IMITATION– – -FLATTERY♥- – — How Sweet. . — :>)

    — –☺https://twitter.com/Blavity/status/886956335216156672

    — –BLESSINGS♥- – -On Your Engagement♥ :>)

    • lamh

      Cute

  • nellcote
  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda♥– —ACA- — Positivity♥- – —BCRA- – -NEGATIVITY!!

    — — ☺https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/886980249593970688

    — – COMMENT:- — I love it that the ACA is so obviously better and yet the POTUS is still trying to pass this rhetoric about it being “dead” …

    ..and trying to pass this bill instead! Absolutely going against the
    country’s best interests, what an incredibly shameful way to govern.

    – – —“IT” is NOT Governing!!!– – He is AMASSING- — $$$$– – 4 him/family!!!- – – -WE KNOW!- – – — He’s GOTTA- — GO!!

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda♥- —From RESISTANTS♥- – – – -‘TOON- -TRUTH!. .

    – – – -☺https://twitter.com/TomthunkitsMind/status/887002282910416899

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda♥– —Belated BIRTHDAY- — wishes – -R – -In –ORDER♥– — :>)

    – – -☺https://twitter.com/BlackToLive/status/887001788590764033

    – – – –BLESSINGS♥– – – —-[Read that “IT” was advocatin’ 4 her release.– – SUSPECT!!- – –HYPOCRITE!!]

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda♥– – –A RESISTANT♥- – -Anti-RETHUG – -WORD- –– -:>)

    – – –☺https://twitter.com/milesjreed/status/887002539182477312

    — –CALL- –‘Em- — -OUT. . :>)

    • jds09

      Some truths are always true.

      • GreenLadyHere

        Good Morntin’ jds09. :>) – – -*BIG- – -Cali–HUG** :>) –

        WORD- –2Da– WORD! :>)- – -Good 2 C U♥ :>)

        Have a BLESSED Day♥ :>)

  • TyrenM

    Somali cop. Australian woman dead. Body cams off. This will be hella interesting to watch here in the great white north.

    • adept2u

      Does Keith Ellison represent anything involved in these incidents?

      • TyrenM

        Yes. He’s theirs and my congress critter.

    • MsKitty

      When I saw this I immediately thought about the Black cops in Louisiana who shot up a car with a young white autistic boy in it. They were indicted and thrown in jail in record time.

      I have a feeling that it might be a similar result here.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda♥- – -Yes. – —OUR Beloved PRESIDENT♥- — – Some – – Positivity♥. . .

    — –☺Oliver Willis‏

    on this day of his presidency – july 17, 2009 – obama’s approval rating was 56%. trump is at 40% today (averages)- –

  • GreenLadyHere

    ☺https://media.giphy.com/media/brsEO1JayBVja/giphy.gif
    Good Morntin’ alma. :>) – – – –**BIG HUG** :>)
    WORD!– -WE Still Don’t Exist- -ENUFF- – – 2 Racists— –

    How R U♥/weather? :>)- – -Good 2 C U♥– – -:>)- —

    B BLESSED♥- -U♥/Mom♥/Family♥/DAUGHTER♥ :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda♥- – –THIS–CHART– – -Brangs- – -BCRA- – -Negativity. .– —

    — –☺https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/887005899566571520

    – —RESISTANTS♥- – — STAY- – -STRONG- – – annnd ACTIVE!!

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda♥– –BWAHAHA– –CALLIN’– – “IT”— OUT – – 4 his/ivanka’s – -Participation. . – – -LOL

    – – –☺CBS News

    Pres. Trump will participate in a “Made in America” showcase featuring products from all 50 states Monday afternoon http://cbsn.ws/2u1Trl5

    – – -[Omited his Pic!- – –I DESPISE him!!]

    – – -COMMENTS:- – —Gonna be an awkward wardrobe choice for him, since nothing he produces is Made in America.– – –

    — – –and none of @IvankaTrump ‘s products— –

  • GreenLadyHere

    alma- – –Aaaahh- –☺https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IkBBTOhfCQ

    — – Thank U 4 your KIND BLESSINGS♥- – – -Always needed♥- –:>)

    **HUGS** :>)

  • Alma98

    Too cute!

    • GreenLadyHere

      alma- – –Awww– -:>)- – – -Annnd a CHILD♥ – -Shall — -Lead- – -A –“WEE 1″♥- –:>)

    • lamh

      Aww…is that the guy who does the videos with his daughter…aww she’s a big girl now

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda♥—-Yes.- – –RESISTANT♥- –Sen. RON Wyden♥ – –CALLS- –‘Em– -OUT!!— :>)

    – —☺https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/887012981623619584

    — –STAND– – STRONG. . :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda♥- – —A– -BLACK♥- – — HISTORICAL–MOMENT♥– -#1♥ -HIT♥— -:>)

    — –☺https://twitter.com/HistoryTime_/status/886948880096657408

    – – – — – Saaaaannngg – — annd Daaaaace- –“OUR Beloved- -GODFATHER -of –SOUL♥- – -Missin’ U♥- -RIHEP♥ :>)

    • GOVCHRIS1988

      This song reminds me of this dance from Cletus everytime.

      https://youtu.be/PmXlO-9CfMM?t=74

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY GOVCHRIS1988- –:>) **BIG HUG**- – -:>)- – –LOL- — FOND MEMORY. :>)- –Thank U♥ :>)- – –Good 2 C U♥ :>) – – – -B BLESSED♥ :>)

  • 7thangel

    this chris arnade fool is annoying.

    but white dudebros gonna white dudebro and be elevated despite their mediocrity

  • Miranda

    Afternoon thread is up