October 22, 2014

Monday Open Thread: Reelection Week

Good morning Pragmatic Obots. 

Let’s Do it Again!

 

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  • gc

    Oh my, have the girls grown. We are seeing a preview of Michelle’s amazing sense of style. As to the emoprog’s obnoxious “so how’s his presidency working out for you”? sarcasm….
    BRILLIANTLY! How are your unending, unproductive, whiney keyboard non acts of activism working out for you??

    • Admiral_Komack

      Don’t worry; by midday on 11/7/2012 the emoprogs will be saying, “Yeah, I voted for Obama, but…”

      • gc

        And I will be answering “take a seat!”

        • MsKitty

          I’m telling you, I got Millie Jackson cued up and ready to go.

      • GN

        “We were singlehandedly responsible for President Obama’s reelection and thus we now own him.”

        • conlakappa

          “He better do what we say this time.”

          • GN

            “We’re the base; we’re President Obama’s very very best supporters thus what we say is indicative of how Obamabots feel.”

          • conlakappa

            You’re bringing back memories of you telling them multiple times, “you are not the base.” Good times! The Orange did allow us to find play-cousins so for that I’m happy!

          • GN

            Indeed, that place was good for something!

    • AxelFoley

      Funny, going to DKos now is like night and day from the last four years. For four damn years, the emos there ripped PBO daily. I mean, as bad or worse than they ever did Bush.

      And now? These vipers act like they’ve been BFFs with PBO all this time. You can’t find nary a bad diary about him there.

      Fuck ‘em. I got a looooooong memory.

      • Gc

        I don’t give a damn how many positive diaries there are, how many cat phtos they post, how a subset of them supports each other if one becomes ill. It is a racist blog. When I quit a “friend” tried to remind me of the decent people there. I understand I am engaging in dualistic thinking, which is counter to my own belief system. But, I repeat, it is a racist blog and I don’t support racism.

      • GN

        When the going got tough, they piled on with the GOP (especially the accusation that black people support PBO simply because he’s black as well as racist depictions of black people including the now-infamous accusation that PBO and Holder are Jim Crow).

        Momentum shifts the other way, and dkos and the rest of the nutroots scramble to the front of the line to take credit. Like clockwork. They want to be able to claim to represent “the base” and they want site traffic from the casual left which is just recently tuning into the elections.

        We called this months and months ago: by October 2012, everyone’s an Obamabot.

        • gc

          We called many, many contentious subjects right, and have for years. I need to be among people I trust, offline and on. Anything else is a waste of time.

      • Admiral_Komack

        Hey now!
        They’ve got to clean up the bed…nice new sheets, pillowcases, comforters…’cause on 11/7/2012, they will shit the bed…again (‘sniff’ “Now that Obama has won re-election…,THIS is what he should do…NOW!”).

      • TyrenM

        Fuck them AND the rest of the “sit this one out” crew.

  • dannie22

    good morning all

  • rikyrah

    Good Morning, Everyone :)

  • rikyrah

    A feature, not a bug
    By Steve Benen
    Mon Nov 5, 2012 8:00 AM EST.

    The voting fiasco in Florida reached truly farcical levels yesterday, with Dan Smith, a political science professor at the University of Florida, explaining, “We’re looking at an election meltdown that is eerily similar to 2000, minus the hanging chads.”

    I think that’s exactly right, but there’s something Rachel explained last night on the show that warrants repeating: “This is a man-made phenomenon…. Those lines are long on purpose.”

    Given Florida’s tragic reputation and history, I saw quite a bit of commentary yesterday questioning why the oft-ridiculed state “can’t get its act together.” There’s been ample talk about “gross incompetence” and Florida’s “inability to run a simple election.”

    These reactions are understandable, but they’re mistaken. The early-voting debacle in the Sunshine State is deliberate. To treat this as the unfortunate result of ineptitude is to miss the point — Florida Republicans designed the system to work this way.

    For Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R) and GOP policymakers in the state, this is a feature, not a bug. Republicans cut the number of early-voting days in half, on purpose. They prevented early voting on the Sunday before the election, on purpose. Scott, unlike the previous two Republican governors, ignored calls to expand voting hours, on purpose.

    GOP policymakers want long lines; they want to make it very difficult for voters to participate in their own democracy; they want Americans to get discouraged and walk away. As one Republican state lawmaker argued after the 2010 election, “I want the people in the State of Florida to want to vote as bad as that person in Africa who is willing to walk 200 miles for that opportunity he’s never had before in his life. This should not be easy.”

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/11/05/14940915-a-feature-not-a-bug?lite

  • rikyrah

    What ‘going well’ looks like
    By Steve Benen
    Mon Nov 5, 2012 8:42 AM EST.

    As part of his efforts to help Mitt Romney, Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), the former Bush/Cheney budget director, as a habit of making claims with no meaningful connection to reality. We saw this a couple of weeks ago, and were reminded of the problem again yesterday.

    Talking to CNN’s Candy Crowley, Portman insisted, “Ohio’s economy is not doing well…. [T]hings aren’t going well.” The Republican added that the unemployment rate in the state is “almost 10 percent” if you twist the numbers a certain way.

    Let’s give the GOP senator a hand. I even made it easy for Portman by creating a chart.

    Portman’s own home-state ally, Republican Gov. John Kasich, has spent much of the year boasting about how much Ohio’s economy has improved in recent years. To be sure, Kasich doesn’t want President Obama to get credit for Ohio’s recovery, but he nevertheless concedes that the state’s economy is vastly better off than it was a few years ago.

    Either Portman isn’t aware of the economic reality in his own state — usually, sitting senators make more of an effort to keep up on these basic details — or he’s hoping voters won’t know the difference. Either way, to suggest economic conditions in Ohio aren’t improving is deeply silly.

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/11/05/14941692-what-going-well-looks-like?lite

    • nellcote

      Romnesia! It’s contageous.

  • rikyrah

    Early Morning Open Thread: Storm-Wracked

    By Anne Laurie November 5th, 2012

    Professor Krugman, perceptive as always:

    As Sandy barreled toward New Jersey, there were hopeful mutters on the right to the effect that it might become President Obama’s Katrina, with voters blaming him for the damage, and that this might matter on Tuesday. Sorry, guys: polls show overwhelming approval for Mr. Obama’s handling of the storm, and a significant rise in his overall favorability ratings.

    And he deserves the bump. For the response to Sandy, like the success of the auto bailout, is a demonstration that Mr. Obama’s philosophy of government — which holds that the government can and should provide crucial aid in times of crisis — works. And conversely, the contrast between Sandy and Katrina demonstrates that leaders who hold government in contempt cannot provide that aid when it is needed…

    Like Mr. Clinton, President Obama restored FEMA’s professionalism, effectiveness, and reputation. But would Mitt Romney destroy the agency again? Yes, he would. As everyone now knows — despite the Romney campaign’s efforts to Etch A Sketch the issue away — during the primary Mr. Romney used language almost identical to Mr. Allbaugh’s, declaring that disaster relief should be turned back to the states and to the private sector.

    http://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/11/05/early-morning-open-thread-storm-wracked/

  • rikyrah

    Michael Tomasky:

    Whatever the result tomorrow, voter suppression is one of the big stories of this campaign and its enduring scandal. The Republican Party before 2012 was a party that certainly did not want black and brown and poor Americans voting, so it’s long been officially racist and classist in this particular sense.

    But up to now its measures were local and somewhat haphazard … now, though, in these past couple of years, the GOP strategy has been institutionalized …. For example, read here about what the secretary of state in Ohio is trying to do right now. It’s rather incredible.

    …. Republicans: Are you really proud to be in a party that tries to rig the rules so that people who vote for the other side have a harder time voting? …. This is really a disgrace. The new Jim Crow, enforced not with burning crosses but with fountain pens, to paraphrase Woody Guthrie

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/05/the-new-jim-crow.html

    • Kennymack1971

      This is a disgrace.

    • gc

      First things first. Reelection, and then utter exposure and legal ramifications for these criminals. I doubt Obama will let it slide. Not our Big Picture guy. He does not care only for HIS years, but for the integrity and future of his country. Perhaps on his Nov 8 To Do List: Ohio, Florida. Basta!

      • nellcote

        I hope we can manage to keep OFA proactive. Voting laws come from the states and it would be better to make changes from there and have DoJ involvement be a last resort.

    • Daltex82

      …. Republicans: Are you really proud to be in a party that tries to rig the rules so that people who vote for the other side have a harder time voting?

      There are so many in that party that see nothing wrong with what rethuglicans have pulled, because in their little pea brains this is what must be done to “save America!”

      • conlakappa

        Ignorant of the fact that they themselves wouldn’t be allowed to vote either not until well into the 20th Century so certainly not covered by the Constitution in its original form.

        • nellcote

          I just remembered that teaparty stunt where they read the constitution on the first day of congress but skipped a page. Oops!

          • conlakappa

            There was also an incident of them saying it was the Constitution but actually reading from the Declaration of Independence.

        • TyrenM

          Don’t forget 2 people SKIPPING the oath to Congress.

          • conlakappa

            Cretinous individuals.

    • AxelFoley

      …. Republicans: Are you really proud to be in a party that tries to rig the rules so that people who vote for the other side have a harder time voting?

      Is this a trick question?

      • Admiral_Komack

        …I’m sure after they stop laughing, they’ll answer it…in the affirmative…

    • GN

      They definitely don’t give a shit. This was the purpose of the propaganda which we saw spread by both the far right AND the Professional Left/Sole Patrol–that black voters only support President Obama because he’s black, thus why should anyone care if people who are voting for illegitimate reasons anyway end up disenfranchised? We aren’t seen as legitimate voters in the first place. Yet another way that the PL/Sole Patrol completely fucked us over with their penchant for repeating the far right’s memes dressed up “from the left.”

  • rikyrah

    From the GREAT STATE OF MAINE…

    The Choice

    If you still have any friends or family members who are undecided about how to vote, consider sending them these handy closing appeals:

    Dear Voter,
    Me.

    Mine.

    Me Me Me Me Me Me Me!

    Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine!

    In conclusion: Backward.

    Sincerely,

    The Republicans

    P.S. Fear everything!

    or….

    Dear Voter,
    We.

    Us. Together. E pluribus unum.

    Hope freedom equality inclusiveness competence compassion.

    Brains common sense community respect hard work accountability.

    Action change responsibility solutions fairness.

    In conclusion: Forward.

    Sincerely,

    The Democrats

    P.S. Fear nothing but fear itself

    http://www.dailykos.com/

  • jds09

    Good Morning POU Fam! Getting it started with some great news…

    “With 11 weeks of tracking, we are headed towards a record level of Latino votes for a Democratic presidential candidate,” said Matt Barreto, principal investigator for Latino Decisions. “If Latinos turnout at the high rates we are expecting, they could deliver Nevada, Colorado, Florida and Virginia to Obama.”

    http://www.latinodecisions.com/blog/2012/11/05/final-impremedia-ld-tracking-poll-if-latino-vote-is-high-obama-will-carry-4-key-swing-states/

    • GN

      Romney seems to have gotten a larger share of the white vote (if polls are to be believed, and concentrated primarily in the South). That Latino Decisions poll is devastating for him because not only does it have President Obama up 49 pts (!) over Romney, but it also indicates that % of their likely voters are more enthused to vote now than they were in 2008.

  • rikyrah

    found this in the comments at Balloon Juice:

    danielx Says:

    The sense of wingnut desperation in Indiana is almost palpable. Oh, they’ll probably win the governorship – John Gregg is a nice guy, but there’s no gainsaying the fact that Mike Pence is a lot more telegenic and has a lot more money behind him (surprise!), even if Pence is dumber than a post and a serious wingnut to boot. If you like living in a state with some of the worst environmental standards outside Texas, you’re going to love the next four years.

    But Mourdock is a lost cause. Every time one of these guys opens his mouth and lets slip what he really thinks, a lot of other Republicans can’t create enough distance between them and the speaker quickly enough. They have a shrinking constituency, relative to the country at large, and every time the mask slips it shrinks a little more.

    I am beginning to think that the key word in assessing Republicans at this point is…desperation. This is the last election that they can possibly win without pursuing one of two alternatives: either broadening the appeal of the party to make it more inclusive, to Hispanics in particular, or wholesale disenfranchisement of various voter groups – blacks, Hispanics and anyone else with whom they disagree over how the national pie is to be split up. Strategic disenfranchisement, you might say. Oh, they’re already trying it on a tactical, piecemeal basis, as witness their efforts in Ohio, Florida and wherever else they think they can get away with it. But barring repeal of the 14th Amendment, elimination of voting rights for everyone who the Republican base detests whole classes of voters is not in the cards.

    Republicans are caught in a trap of their own making. They’ve spent forty years winning elections with the Southern Strategy, but that strategy has just about reached its sell-by date. Either they broaden the party’s appeal – which will split the party – or they start losing elections by bigger and bigger margins. The former has already started happening, as lot of commentators here and elsewhere have noted. Bigotry, denial of reality and America fuck yeah! will only carry you so far when, as Lindsey Graham let slip in a moment of amazing honesty, “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.” Without getting into Obama’s virtues or flaws, a half decent Republican candidate this year – say, Jon Huntsman – would have run over Obama like a lawnmower, because there have been few incumbents (if any) more beset by troubles not of his own making than Obama. He hasn’t committed any gross and egregious blunders, but he hasn’t gotten one iota of assistance either and that’s after pissing off his own base in his efforts to compromise with the opposition.

    But a party that presents a slate of candidates like those of the 2012 Republican primaries is a party that has little to offer except sheer meanness, especially when those candidates seemed to be competing to see who could be first to shove the throttle of the crazy train to the last stop. The number of candidates alone was an indication of a party in crisis (by American political standards) – one thing at which the Republicans have excelled over the past four decades in presidential election years was unity. None of the Democratic-style inter-party circular firing squads for them, no sir – until now.

    St. Ronald of Reagan, to name their first champion, was a policy idiot – but he was a great candidate. People liked him, because he made them feel good about themselves and optimistic about the future, and therefore they didn’t listen too closely as to how he proposed to reach that future. Contrariwise, a party in which people like Rick Santorum and Michelle Bachmann are taken seriously is a party that’s headed off a cliff.

    So this is it for the Republican Party as it currently exists – the last stand. If they win they have the opportunity to carry out, for a time, their programs and philosophy, for better or for worse. To – in effect – be given yet another chance to fuck things up by the numbers after the repeated disasters of the Cheney Regency. (Remember “deficits don’t matter”?) And, not incidentally, to raise further barriers to voting by those negatively affected by their policies, which will include just about everybody with a net worth of less than seven figures.

    If they lose, they’re basically screwed – to use a historical analogy, they’re in the position of the German Army after Stalingrad. They might achieve some tactical successes but the long term numbers are against them, a fact of which at least some Republicans, like Karl Rove, are well aware. (Yes, he’s a detestable, odious, mendacious little shit. Nobody ever said he was stupid.) If they can’t win this year with the ocean of money that’s been unleashed by the Citizen’s United decision, they’re toast.

    So let’s kick ass tomorrow. At this time on Wednesday morning I hope to be suffering from a serious victory hangover, and it’s the first time I’ve ever looked forward to one.

    • GN

      The modern GOP’s mandate is to concentrate suffrage and political power into the hands of the people most likely to give that power away to plutocrats for foolish, tribal reasons as well as to ensure that whatever crumbs escape down to the non-wealthy classes is distributed unevenly. Indeed, every year, there are fewer such people willing to do that, thank goodness.

    • jds09

      I agree with most of this EXCEPT for “Jon Huntsman would have run over Obama like a lawnmower”. In a fair fight PBO would have still whupped some ass. This country is center-left. The democratic policies are better and more popular, the demographics of this country are changing, democrats have a stronger bench, etc.

      Some (I’d argue most) of the the liberal white folks have to hold on to the LIE that the white man should be victorious (shush…because that’s the natural order of things), I am so very tired of this shit in all it’s various forms.

      • Town

        I liked the part where he blamed Obama for the opposition not wanting to work with him, forgetting the fact the DEMOCRATS did not have Obama’s back either!

        I would also argue that most progressive white folks (progressives aren’t the same as liberals imo) have the “White Man is Superior” attitude. Look at Maddow creating a fake Oval Office to show Obama how it’s supposed to be done, or Hayes sitting on his little bike telling Obama what he should be doing or Lawrence tsk tsking Obama and telling him how it was done when Clinton was president or Matthews/Schultz have meltdowns on air because Obama didn’t slap Romney like SHAFT.

        • jeremy

          True !
          I love how they forget the Conservative Dems in the senate that stopped Obama and other Dems from enacting even more legislative changes. They always blame Obama but forget everyone elese in the government. The emo-left and PL think they are the base and they aren’t.

          • jeremy

            but they aren’t.

        • Admiral_Komack

          …coughKeithOlbermanncough…

    • jeremy

      I disagree with the “run over like a lawnmower” nonsense. Obama is a strong candidate and president and many republicans said it would not be easy to unseat him. In terms of the base being pissed about “compromises”(which by the way every president has to make). The PL and emo-left were the only ones complaining 24/7 and getting nasty.

      • GN

        Indeed; the GOP’s top politicians sat this election out for a reason.

        • AxelFoley

          Exactly.

        • conlakappa

          Dunno, what makes a top politician in that party these days?

      • Ebogan63

        That Huntsman nonsense is why I have very little regard for some BJ commentors and their emo prog tendencies. The person above needs to read a fucking civics book and GTFOH with that ‘compromises bullshit they sellin’

      • Kennymack1971

        Thank you. This is so tiresome to hear emoprogs parrot this nonsense about if the GOP had a decent candidate they would have won. This is more of that condescending “He’s lucky” BS. I cannot stand these people.

        • conlakappa

          And is wishes were horses, Rafalca still would have placed 12th. That party having such weak candidates is also a function of our party having such a strong one.

          • AxelFoley

            Bingo.

      • AxelFoley

        PBO would have whooped Huntsman worse than he’s whooping RMoney’s ass.

        That whole meme was started by “progressives”. I never saw GOPers push that bullshit, but I saw plenty of fools at “progressive” sites say they were glad Huntsman didn’t get the nomination.

        That mofo couldn’t even get a significant percentage of the GOP vote, but we were supposed to be scared of him? Child, please.

        • nellcote

          He wouldn’t have been more formidabe but possibly less repulsive, superpacs notwithstanding.

          • conlakappa

            But we would be seeing his 7 kids instead of the 5 Mittenites. Did you see that Huntsman’s oldest 3 daughters went as a binder full of women for Halloween?

  • rikyrah

    Charles Pierce: It appears that, while I was watching the president this afternoon, I missed another big moment in the ongoing mess that is the early voting being conducted here in the World’s Greatest Democracy, when all hell broke loose down in Miami-Dade county. The nonpartisan, but very conservative, mayor of Miami jumped in with both feet, with entirely predictable results….

    Elections officials, overwhelmed with voters, locked the doors to their Doral headquarters and temporarily shut down the operation, angering nearly 200 voters standing in line outside — only to resume the proceedings an hour later….

    …. Nearly all the voters stayed in line until a campaign worker reported her car had been towed from a private parking lot across the street. Scores of people ducked out of the line to check on their own cars. A second car had been towed.

    My head may explode

    http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/doral-florida-early-voting-confusion-14449029

    • nellcote

      Anybody hear what the deal was with the car towing? Who ordered that?

  • GN

    About 9 months ago, a group of FL teens redid “Let’s Do It Again” as a dedication to President Obama’s reelection (because the sole patrol doesn’t speak for black folks, PBO is beloved). The video was so awesome:

  • rikyrah

    Posted at 09:11 AM ET, 11/05/2012
    The Morning Plum: Can a ‘post-truth’ candidate be elected president?
    By Greg Sargent

    Not long ago, Jay Rosen memorably dubbed Mitt Romney’s bid for the presidency a “post truth” campaign. In less than 48 hours, we may find out whether a “post truth” candidate can be elected president.

    If there is one constant to this campaign, it’s that Romney has startled many observers by operating from the basic premise that there is literally no set of boundaries he needs to follow when it comes to the veracity of his assertions, the transparency he provides about his fundraising and finances, and the specificity of his plans for the country. On the dishonesty front, this has grown more pronounced in recent days, with Romney’s embrace of the Jeep-to-China lie as a closing argument in Ohio and his absurd attacks on Obama for urging people to vote.

    But the key to this is how elemental it has long been to his campaign. Romney’s entire bid for the presidency rests on a foundation of evasions and lies. David Corn explains:

    The Republican presidential candidate built much of his campaign on basic untruths about the president. Romney blasted Obama for breaking a “promise” to keep unemployment below 8 percent. He claimed the president was “apologizing for America abroad.” He accused Obama of adding “nearly as much debt as all the previous presidents combined” and of cutting $500 million from Medicare. None of this was true. (See here, here, here, and here.)
    All of these apocryphal statements have been essential parts of Romney’s fundamental case against Obama: He’s failed to revive the economy and he’s placed the nation at risk. Rather than stick to a discourse premised on actual differences (he believes in government investments and would raise taxes on the wealthy to fund them; I want to shrink government and cut taxes) — and bend the truth within acceptable boundaries to bolster the argument — Romney has repeatedly relied on elemental falsehoods.

    But this goes well beyond Romney’s claims about Obama. It also concerns what he would do as president. Romney’s own campaign has proven unable to back up the promises in his 12 million jobs plan, even though it is the centerpiece of his governing agenda and his response to the most pressing problem facing the nation. And that’s only the beginning. Jonathan Cohn:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line

  • rikyrah

    Momentum in the Tarheel State?

    by BooMan
    Mon Nov 5th, 2012 at 09:14:26 AM EST

    I never really got comfortable reading MattTX’s charts of the projected North Carolina early vote, but I note that his final conclusion is that he has no idea whether Obama will win the state. We can see that a lot of white Democrats have changed their registration to unaffiliated over the last four years, and we can also see a substantial reduction in turnout among whites who have remained Democrats. Turnout among white Republicans is up 9.3 percent. Combined, this paints a bleak picture for Obama in a state he won in 2008 by a mere 14,000 votes. On the other hand, the white share of the vote is down almost 3% and African-American turnout is up 6.4% among registered Democrats and down 6.3% among registered Republicans. Most of the recent polling out of North Carolina shows the race tied or Romney ahead by a point or two.

    Michelle Obama is appearing in the state today, which would indicate some belief on the campaign’s part that it is still in play. Most people I talk to seem to feel that OFA-North Carolina is the best turnout organization in the country right now, and organizers on the ground are exuding confidence. And this might be the most heartwarming story I’ve read from the field in this whole election cycle.

    I think the state is too close to call, but there are no signs that the campaign has given up there. Forward!

    http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/11/5/91426/5364

    • Ebogan63

      Cab Political has a better take on NC than this article.

  • rikyrah

    Still Trying to Steal the Election

    by BooMan
    Sun Nov 4th, 2012 at 11:45:58 PM EST

    As I go to bed tonight, Nate Silver gives the president a better than 85% chance of being reelected even though he isn’t giving him Florida’s electoral votes. That’s a good thing because Florida Gov. Rick Scott is acting like a Jim Crow governor and I am absolutely disgusted and embarrassed for our country. The outright theft of Florida is being attempted in broad daylight, right in front of our eyes. And what is going on in Ohio isn’t much better.

    http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/11/4/234558/410

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  • MonieTalks

    This morning, Mitt Romney is campaigning in Sanford, FL…the city where Trayvon Martin was hunted and gunned down.

    • GN

      He’s a sick bastard.

    • jds09

      This is gonna backfire. Romney can’t even mimic Reagan’s Philadelphia Mississippi blast correctly. Get ready for some State’s rights bullshit.

    • gc

      He’s got Z’s vote, if people with his legal status can vote. What am I say? He is the Z-.man. This is his his turf. Of course he can vote.

      The Romney campaign is finishing up as stupidly as they began. Since no politician can be that stupid, I would be this is a FU Black America.

      • Daltex82

        … I would bet this is a FU Black America.

        We will be giving that right back to him tomorrow!

        • conlakappa

          With both hands.

          • AxelFoley

            And feet.

        • Gc

          Your white brothers and sisters will be right there with you!

          • Admiral_Komack

            Give ‘em hell!

    • AxelFoley

      I hope some reporter asks him his thoughts on Zimmerman.

      Who am I kidding? He won’t even speak to the media, even if someone did their job and asked him.

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM — – – -DA FLAKES R OUT!! – – – -WATCH OUT 4 these – -FAKE CALLS!- – –

    — -Arizona GOP Senate Candidate Robocalls Democrats And Tells Them To Vote In The Wrong Place – –

    — – —According to a report by Phoenix, Arizona’s NBC affiliate, Rep. Jeff Flake’s (R-AZ) U.S. Senate campaign called Democratic voters telling them to vote in the wrong precinct — in some cases as much as 11 miles away from their actual polling place. After telling the Democratic voters to vote in the wrong place, the calls also encourage the voter to “vote Flake for U.S. Senate.” Watch the report:
    THERE IS MORE.

    – – – – -VOTER SUPPRESSION WATCH!! —

    • nellcote

      The candidate himself? That’s gotta be illegal.

  • Miranda

    Republican-Heavy Counties Eat Up Most Food-Stamp Growth

    Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney said in May that he’d written off votes from 47 percent of Americans who are collecting government aid. Turns out many of them are part of his political base.

    Seventy percent of counties with the fastest-growth in food-stamp aid during the last four years voted for the Republican presidential candidate in 2008, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data compiled by Bloomberg. They include Republican strongholds like King County, Texas, which in 2008 backed Republican John McCain by 92.6 percent, his largest share in the nation; and fast-growing Douglas County, Colorado.

    more here
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-05/republican-heavy-counties-eat-up-most-food-stamp-growth.html

    • Admiral_Komack

      I’m sure you can get a lot of TEABAGS with food stamps.

      • AxelFoley

        Ta-dow! TA-DOW!

    • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

      Why am I not surprised? The people always running around screaming “get the gubmint off our backs” are the ones first in line across the board at the federal trough.

      Any wonder why the politicians they choose are less hypocritical than their constituents?

  • rikyrah

    Research Firm Says Historic Showing Among Latino Voters Will Carry Obama To Re-Election
    Tom Kludt – 8:34 AM EST, Monday November 5, 2012

    With President Obama in a position to claim a record high share of Latino voters, a leading research firm said Monday that the incumbent’s performance among America’s fastest growing voting bloc should put him over the top in swing states and help him secure a second term.

    Acording to a report by Latino Decisions, Obama is “poised to win a record high share of the Latino vote, and in turn likely to win key swing states and enough electoral college votes to retain the presidency.”

    Latino Decisions shows Obama earning the support of 73 percent of Latino voters with “consistent vote history or have already voted” — creating big separation from Mitt Romney, who picks up only 24 percent. If Obama reaches such a high-level of support, he would exceed former President Bill Clinton’s 72 percent share of the Latino vote in 1996. Matt Barreto, principal investigator for Latino Decisions, said that could augur well for Obama in a handful of key battlegrounds.

    “With 11 weeks of tracking, we are headed towards a record level of Latino votes for a Democratic presidential candidate,” Barreto said. “If Latinos turnout at the high rates we are expecting, they could deliver Nevada, Colorado, Florida and Virginia to Obama

    http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/research-firm-says-historic-showing-among-latino-voters

    • gc

      Muchas gracias, AG!!!

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM – -VOTER SUPPRESSION at its HIGHEST — ->THIS PIECE of EXCREMENT!! – —

    – – –Four Ways Ohio’s GOP Secretary Of State Is Trying To Steal The Election For Mitt Romney – –

    — – – In the lead up to the 2000 presidential election, Florida’s Republican Secretary of State Katherine Harris hired a private company to create an error-laden “scrub list” of so-called ineligible voters, eventually wrongly purging as many as 7000 voters from Florida’s rolls — or 13 times George W. Bush’s post-Supreme Court margin of victory. Moreover, because Harris’ list “invariably target[ed] a minority population in Florida” that was overwhelmingly likely to vote for Al Gore, it is likely that her voter purge gave the presidency to Bush. Four years later, Ohio’s Republican Secretary of State Ken Blackwell engaged in similar shenanigans to suppress the vote in his crucial swing state — including at one point saying he would reject voter registration forms if they were not printed on 80-pound thickness cardstock.

    This election, the role of Kathrine Harris and Ken Blackwell is played by Ohio’s new Republican Secretary of State, Jon Husted. Here are just a few of the steps Husted took to try to swing Ohio’s crucial electoral votes to Mitt Romney:-

    Trashing Provisional Ballots: – In a last-minute directive that directly conflicts with Ohio law, Husted ordered all voters who make a mistake when filling out a form accompanying provisional ballots to be disenfranchised. As the majority of provisional ballots are cast in Ohio’s five largest counties — all of which favor Democrats — and because low-income and transient voters are also more likely to vote provisionally, Husted’s directive will likely disenfranchise many more Democrats than Republicans.
    Restricting Early Voting:
    – —
    THERE IS MORE! — –

    THANK GOODNESS = — SISTANINA TURNER -[annd others] – -is GOIN’ ALL IN ON HIM!! – – – Woo! Hoo! :>)

    • gc

      Jail, baby. Period.

      Who is S Turner?

      • GreenLadyHere

        Good MornTin’ gc. ***BIG HUG** :>)

        Dorry – -I clarified with some dashes. :>) – – –

        Good 2 C U. – – -gc. :>)

      • TyrenM

        Ohio State Senator Nina Turner. You can see her work on older POU Videos. She’s been…on it.

  • Miranda

    Romney Avoided Taxes Through Netherlands
    The Volkskrant, a well-regarded newspaper in Amsterdam, has discovered that Mitt Romney avoided 80 million euro in dividend taxes using a route thru the Netherlands.
    ______________________________________

    Romney Avoids $100 Million in Dividend Taxes via Foreign Route
    On Nov. 5, 2012, De Volkrant ran an article about how Mitt Romney avoided $100 million in dividend taxes through a private equity fund in The Netherlands. Here is the Volkskrant story. A longer version of the story originally appeared at Follow the Money. Below is a translation (posted with permission of Follow the Money).

    http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2012/Info/romney-taxes.html

    • GN

      The beltway press was too “bored” to dig into the unprecedented story of a presidential candidate with offshore accounts who refused even the most minimal vetting of his personal finances. Utterly disgraceful.

      • Town

        The beltway press (progressive & conservative) are thirsty for a white president so Mitt Romney could have committed mass murder, been a drug kingpin, slept with dead bodies, done drivebys, and peed on underage girls a la R. Kelly and the press STILL would have ignored all of that.

        • Daltex82

          Sad but true!

        • Admiral_Komack

          Willard could have been caught and photographed in bed, naked, with a dead girl and live boy, with condoms and lube, both used liberally in the bedroom, and the mainstream media would have no problem with it; hell, Willard would be praised for being bipartisan!

          • AxelFoley

            Mittens could have pissed on Reagan’s grave, said “Fuck Mom, apple pie and America”, and the “liberal” media would have defended it.

      • sagittarius

        Willard could have humped a goat live in prime time on CBS, NBC, ABC and Fox and sucked off a llama at midnight on MSNBC and Faux News, and the mainstream media would applaud it as a new sensation.

        • conlakappa

          Duh, all a part of Mittmentum!

  • GN

    @ppppolls
    Our final Colorado poll finds Barack Obama leading Mitt Romney 52/46.

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM – –Da TWITT was HIDIN’ AGAIN!!! – – —

    – — -
    Romney Avoided Taxes Through Netherlands

    – — –The Volkskrant, a well-regarded newspaper in Amsterdam, has discovered that Mitt Romney avoided 80 million euro in dividend taxes using a route thru the Netherlands.- – –

    – – – -Annnnnd- -GOT- – – – CAUGHT! – — -HAH!!

    • GN

      Romney is a freaking disaster. Wow.

      • GreenLadyHere

        Good Monday MornTin’ GN. ***BIG HUG** :>)

        — – -LOL – — – – — –DIS-A$$-TER

        Of da FIRST ORDER!! — HAH! – – –

        – –Good 2 C U – -GN! :>)

  • nellcote

    A feature, not a bug

    [...]
    The early-voting debacle in the Sunshine State is deliberate. To treat this as the unfortunate result of ineptitude is to miss the point — Florida Republicans designed the system to work this way.
    [...]
    GOP policymakers want long lines; they want to make it very difficult for voters to participate in their own democracy; they want Americans to get discouraged and walk away. As one Republican state lawmaker argued after the 2010 election, “I want the people in the State of Florida to want to vote as bad as that person in Africa who is willing to walk 200 miles for that opportunity he’s never had before in his life. This should not be easy.”
    [...]
    OK, you’re thinking, early voting in Florida has been disgraceful, but at least voting on Election Day itself will be smoother, right? Wrong — due to Republican budget cuts, there will be fewer polling precincts this year than four years ago, meaning more long lines.

    I’ll just conclude with Rachel’s conclusion: “[I]t is frankly an outrage that there are forces at work in our politics right now that not only make this type of situation possible, but that make it inevitable — who see problems like this and go out of their way to try to make it worse…. If you are one of those people being forced to stand in those long lines tonight or tomorrow or on Election Day, honestly, your country needs you to do it. Your country needs you to do it, not only because it’s your civic responsibility, but also because there are people trying to profit politically off of you not doing it.”

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_nv/more/section/archive?author=steve-benen

    • Daltex82

      Folks on that side are always screaming about “less Government, less Government” yet it is shenanigans like these in Florida and Ohio that cause The Federal Government to get involved to protect people’s rights.

      Aquagranny has mentioned this and I wholeheartedly agree a law needs to be passed making voting rules and regulations uniform for all states. These blatant cases of voter suppression by rethuglican Governors and Secretary’s of State needed to be addressed on a Federal level, letting them know that folks saw what they were up to and want assurances that it won’t happen again. Folks that want to should be able to participate in the voting process without being jerked around.

  • GreenLadyHere
    • caribbeanobserver

      Wonderful and riveting Good Morning to Ms Green and the POU family. Delurking to wish everyone over the next 2 days a positive,energious and fired-up spirit, as well as a rip-roaring result! I am with you all the way and will check in frequently, as I usually do, for all things Obama until the final tally. Onward,forward.
      P.S my 82 year old aunt and family members in Hartford,Connecticut are working the phones and putting in some time for me!

    • edp4bho

      Morning GLH and POU. One of my very favorite videos. Thanks !

  • nellcote

    Quote of the Day
    “If I hear anybody say it was because Romney wasn’t conservative enough I’m going to go nuts. We’re not losing 95% of African-Americans and two-thirds of Hispanics and voters under 30 because we’re not being hard-ass enough.”

    — Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), quoted by Politico, saying that demographics would be the only reason for a hypothetical Mitt Romney loss Tuesday.

    http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/11/05/quote_of_the_day.html

    • GN

      So he’s confirming that by conservative they mean hardcore racist. Racist party.

      • Ebogan63

        They have been the White Mans Party since all those Dixiecrats became Republicans.

        • GN

          Yup, the regressives incrementally slithered right in and took over the GOP. I don’t blame real conservatives and Republicans like Eisenhower’s daughter (who endorsed PBO again) for refusing to belong to that.

        • qosine

          Yes.

  • nellcote

    Where Will Undecided Vote Break?
    First Read makes one last point about the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll: “The survey found that 9% of the likely voters are up for grabs (meaning they’re undecided or just leaning to a candidate), and these folks have more positive feelings toward Obama than Romney. Obama’s job approval with them is 48% approve, 41% disapprove. What’s more, Obama’s fav/unfav with them is 46%/29%, vs. Romney’s upside down 22%-49%. Bottom line: Our pollsters see more of an opportunity for Obama among these voters and more of an uphill climb for Romney.”

    http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/11/05/where_will_undecided_vote_break.html

    • Daltex82

      How can one still be undecided at this point, I don’t get it.

      • edp4bho

        They’re lying !!

        • conlakappa

          I talked to some folks in Virginia on Saturday who are still copping to indecision. The greatest contact they’ve had with the candidates is through ads, which isn’t helpful. Some were going to visit the Web sites and learn more. They just aren’t that tuned in. Some didn’t know who the senatorial candidates were.

    • Town

      To me there are 3 categories of “undecideds”:

      1) Lean-Romney voters who really don’t want to vote for Romney

      2) Bandwagon jumpers who will vote for who is #winning

      3) White Lean-Obama voters who are scared to tell their family/friends/coworkers they are leaning Obama for fear of being ostracized & bullied

      Groups 2 & 3 will vote Obama, group 1 will vote Romney, write in a 3rd party candidate (meaning they were never undecided) or not vote for President at all.

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2 —–THIS – – -SPEAKS TRUTH! — -HAH! – – —

    – — -Mitt Romney is a Caricature of All That is Wrong with the Republican Party – —

    – —-Change means different things to different people. It’s a common enough campaign promise; in fact, Mitt Romney is running on “change” this cycle. Romney promises to deliver change on Day One, some of which is going to happen just because he was elected, according to him. In an email to supporters, he wrote, “This election is a turning point for America. It is a time for greatness, for big change, and for action — not more idle words. I’m not just talking about change, I actually have a plan to make it happen. From day one of my presidency, I will restore common sense to Washington, by cutting wasteful spending and putting us on a path toward a balanced budget.”

    Romney’s “change” is actually not change but rather going back to Bush policies, by doubling down on Bush’s tax cuts and deregulation while amping up defense spending way past what the Pentagon said they needed. Romney says he’s running on “change” but he won’t give us any specifics of what that means or looks like, other than promising that he will deliver the 12 million jobs experts say will come our way if we keep doing what Obama is doing now.

    Romney also wants to take us back to the social policies of the 1950s, you know, back in the good old days when women knew their place and people were “wholesome” (aka: trapped in bad marriages and housewives were drugged to dull the pain).

    – —SNIP – – –

    Obama’s ideas of change are changes that benefit the people (I detailed examples here), protecting them from corporate interests and helping them get a fair shot if they work hard. The man isn’t perfect and we are so far from digging our way out of 40 years of Republican “values”. I fear it will take another 40 to fix the systemic damage.M
    THERE IS MORE.

    – – — –SORRY. :>)[Gotta "bounce" - -MISSIN' U/CARRYIN' U ---IN MY ♥.]

  • lamh36

    Good Morning POU.

    Alrighty, today is my birthday and all I want is a RT from @idriselba or @MichelleObama and a belated present of Re-electing @BarackObama

    • edp4bho

      Happy happy, lamh. May you get your wish #1 and if so, expect all the hatas havin at you :-D I wouldn’t even be mad !!

    • gc

      Happy Birthday, Lamb. Will you share Idris?

      • nellcote

        Not til she’s done with him.

    • MsKitty

      Happy Birthday fellow Scorpio sister! Enjoy your day.

    • Admiral_Komack

      Happy Birthday, Lamh!

    • Alma98

      Happy Birthday lamh!

    • Daltex82

      Happy Birthday!

    • MonieTalks

      Happy Birthday lamh36!

    • Kennymack1971

      Happy Birthday Lamh!

    • Miranda

      Git it Git it!!

      • TyrenM

        No Stevie, but 2Live Crew! You a fool!

    • Worldwatcher7

      Many happy returns of the day Lamh!

    • qosine

      Happy Birthday to you, lamh36!

    • sagittarius

      Happy Birthday, lamh!

    • GN

      Happy b-day!

    • vulcan_girl

      Happy birthday!

    • TyrenM

      Happy Birthday Lamh. Enjoy yourself tonight!

  • nellcote

    Romney Will Bring Back Torture

    If you’re a smug, “civil liberties progressive” who’s voting for a third party candidate, you’re actually voting for this:

    Q: Waterboarding: do you think it’s torture?

    Romney: I don’t. … We will have a policy of doing what we think is in our best interest. We’ll use enhanced interrogation techniques that go beyond what’s in the military handbook right now.

    A vote for a third party candidate over President Obama is a vote for Mitt Romney and all of the accompanying awfulness he would resurrect. I don’t care who you think you are or what kind of smartypants progressive hipster you comport yourself to be, these candidates are worlds apart on everything, including the war on terror and civil liberties. If you can’t see this vast and obvious distinction, you’re a phenomenal idiot — beyond the idiocy it requires to believe that you can somehow divorce politics from policy.

    http://bobcesca.com/blog-archives/2012/11/romney-will-bring-back-torture.html

    • Daltex82

      Is anyone surprised that he favors torture, hell he would probably ask for permission to participate.

      • AxelFoley

        Ask Seamus if Willard likes torture.

        • Admiral_Komack

          “glub-glub”
          “Is we drowning, boss?”

  • GN

    My favorite PBO musical tribute; this will never get old for me:

  • lamh

    Alrighty, today is my birthday and all I want is a RT from @idriselba or @MichelleObama and a belated present of Re-electing @BarackObama. Oh and the Saints to beat dem Eagles tonight!! WHO DAT!

  • GN

    Wow; crowds are coming out in such FORCE for this President! He so deserves the acclaim: https://twitter.com/Arianna8927/status/265480485927538688/photo/1

    • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

      Love this reply

      rdowns‏@rdowns

      @Arianna8927 @MlTTR0MNEY The Romney campaign can photoshop a much bigger crowd.

  • gc

    I babble when I’m tense.
    OT. Sousa should win a Pulitzer for his work with Obama.

    • qosine

      Yes, his work is stunning.

  • GN

    To be fair, I’ve had my issues with Nate Silver but MAN did he take a baseball bat to the beltway press’ Mittementum “narrative” and he didn’t back down when the far right and some members of the beltway media attacked him for ruining their story:

    @fivethirtyeight:
    Obama becoming a heavier favorite, in 538’s view. Now 86% to win Electoral College. http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com

    So credit where credit is due. Nate Silver turned to the pure numbers during the last month or so and delivered solid analysis; I’m grateful for that.

    • Miranda

      You can tell that Silver is gleeful to the point of spite at bursting the “mittmentum” bubble every day. LOL It tickles me.

      • GN

        Yes, I don’t know what happened but he broke up with the beltway media and the judge awarded him custody of the facts + numbers. It’s been a sight to see!

        • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

          He punked Morning Joe with that bet that PBO would win reelection. MJ backed down real quick.

          • GN

            Indeed! MJ was unwilling to put his money where his mouth was, wasn’t he?

    • Ebogan63

      Nate has been straight clownin’ the Beltway media

      Shorter Nate: “Y’all are full of shit with dis ‘mittmenum’ bs., lemme tell ya why…..”

    • nellcote

      Nate’s been through all the hater bs before when he was doing baseball stats. The gut feelers thought gay-baiting him was going to make him back down. Ha!

    • PBomb

      Nate is starting to match up closely to Sam Wang’s numbers. Sam Wang of the Princeton Consortium had PBO at a 90% chance of winning the election as early as two weeks ago.

      Sam is more accurate than Nate.

      • GN

        TruthDOTcom. Good point!

  • GN

    PrioritiesUSA really did the damn thing this campaign season; thank you is not enough:

    @billburton716
    By the numbers, the Priorities ad “Stage” named the ‘most effective ad of the cycle’ http://on.mktw.net/YJPATx

    • conlakappa

      Um, but, but, Burton was all bitter and stuff. Totes walked away from the White House vowing revenge. That wasn’t true?!

  • GN

    Bruce Springsteen has been amazing:

    @postpolitics
    The Boss will ride on Air Force One http://wapo.st/YKl2kD

    Well deserved!

    • nellcote

      Plane pooling, how environmentally sensitive ;)

  • Alma98

    Morning all! Fired up and ready to go!

  • MonieTalks

    Desperation from Eric Cantor’s supporters

    Vandalism reported at two Powell campaign offices

    RICHMOND, Va. —

    Vandals spray-painted “baby killer” on the campaign headquarters of congressional candidate Wayne Powell and wrote a racial epithet on a sign in front of another local campaign office, staff members with Powell’s campaign said Sunday.

    Two staff members said the vandalisms at the Chesterfield County and Henrico County offices were discovered Saturday morning and reported to police.

    Powell, a Democrat, is running against incumbent Republican Rep. Eric Cantor in the 7th District.

    “Baby killer” was spray-painted on the front of Powell’s campaign office off Midlothian Turnpike near Chesterfield Towne Center sometime Friday night, staff members said.

    Henrico police confirmed that a racial slur was scrawled on a campaign sign in front of Powell’s campaign office on Hungary Spring Road.

    read more: http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/virginia-politics/2012/nov/04/1/vandalism-reported-at-two-powell-campaign-offices-ar-2336857/

    • Miranda

      SMH.

      He was on Meet the Press looking like a damn vampire. He was so pale and ghoulish-looking.

      • nellcote

        I can NOT stand his voice.

    • conlakappa

      Cue Big-Hair talking about when his office was vandalized and blah, blah, blah fishcakes. Baby killer is the word that some ign’nt Virginia folks were throwing around about the President the previous weekend. I guess this group of miscreants is playing from an old playbook.

    • Town

      I’ve heard a rumor that out in Gloucester, people were having Barack Obama effigies.

      Buckle up everyone, teabaggers will be out for revenge after tomorrow.

      • AxelFoley

        In the words of their failure of a president, “Bring. It. On.”

      • TyrenM

        So Town, I shouldn’t wear red, black and green with my “I Voted” sticker to work tomorrow?

  • MonieTalks

    O’Reilly: ‘Obama Doesn’t Like USA Because Blacks Have ‘Grievance Against Whites’

    …“I look at Barack Obama and think, you know, I don’t sense he likes half this country,” Dennis Miller, the comedian and conservative radio host, told O’Reilly. “And I think that’s coming back to bite him in the tookus.”

    “Do you think it has anything to do with grievance?” O’Reilly wondered. “Because in some African-American communities there is a grievance against whites who aren’t sympathetic to their cause. And that may be driving a little bit of it. So there are some African Americans who believe the reason that they’re not prospering as a community, alright, is because society hasn’t done enough, and the reason society hasn’t done enough is because of rich white guys.”

    read more: http://www.blackenterprise.com/news/oreilly-obama-doesnt-like-usa-because-blacks-have-grievance-against-whites/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    • Ebogan63

      These idiots have no fucking idea what black folks think. Lemme give you an idea: We ain’t studyin’ you fucks 24/7, stop being so obseesed with us!

      • conlakappa

        Um, O’Really did go to Sylvia’s so, like, he totally gets “the blacks.” Dennis Miller, you know, I look at your greasy face and I think, maybe you are still fiending half the day.

        • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

          “Dennis Miller, you know, I look at your greasy face and I think, maybe you are still fiending half the day”

          I…can’t…breeve…

    • Daltex82

      He can go find a loofah and rotate.

      • Admiral_Komack

        …and you know he’ll do it live!

    • GN

      Bill O’Reilly is racist as hell. He’s been a huge racist for years and years and years. He’s proof that the most talentless hacks have the most invested in racial agitation against black people because they’d do so poorly in a fair competition.

    • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

      Swing and a miss. Again. Don’t he ever give up?

      • AxelFoley

        Hell, no. They’re like vampires–you have to drive a stake thru their hearts and cut the head off and bury it away from the body to get rid of them.

        • qosine

          THIS! All of them!! I'[d recommend this 9999999 . . . . times if I could.

    • http://www.facebook.com/erica.branchbutler Erica Raven Branch-Butler

      BLINK!?!?

  • nellcote

    On the final day of campaigning I’m realizing a big difference between this year and 2008 is that cable used to run full speeches but not this year. I guess the horse race blather was just to important to interupt. :(

    Anyway, here’s the cspan live online schedule for today:

    President Obama in Ohio: Live at 4:10pm (ET)

    President & First Lady Campaign in Des Moines, IA: Live at 10:30pm (ET)

    http://www.c-span.org/Campaign2012/Events/President-Obama-to-Campaign-in-Wisconsin-Ohio-and-Iowa/10737435612-2/

  • lamh36

    Ok, someone explain to me this. There confirmed reports that Romney will be campaining on election day in Ohio tomorrow. I assume he’ll be in a GOP county and will get voters from rally to polls?? But wouldn’t that mean that voters will be at rally rather than polls???

    I’m confused, I can’t decide if this is good strategy or not? My gut is telling me it’s an act of desperation

    • conlakappa

      Your gut is correct. Whoever these people are, my gut tells me they will be bused in. I guess he cannot go to any of the area codes he inhabits because he’s not projected to win in any of them. He’ll act like Ohio adopted him.

  • itgurl_29

    For all the lambs out there, don’t forget Mariah Carey is gonna be with Michelle Obama in North Carolina today.

  • conlakappa

    AP/Yahoo! is trying a different tack with the whole it’ll be Sandy’s fault. And it’s a doozy:

    Sandy could cast doubt on election results

    In a worst-case scenario, the storm disruption could cause Obama to lose the popular vote and still win the election.

    Um, okay?

    • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

      In other news that bad apple sauce I had when I was in nursery school could lose Romney the popular vote and the electoral college.

      Oh when that stuff goes bad.

      • Miranda

        LMAO

    • Ebogan63

      They need to talk to Nate, Sam Wang an ‘nem cuz PBO ain’t losing the popular vote.

      • conlakappa

        Right? The outright RW press has been pushing that since Thursday, which sounds straight-up Rovian while also being a call to arms. They again question the legitimacy of the President’s election but coming from a less racially obvious point.

        • AxelFoley

          B-bu-bu-but I thought the popular vote didn’t mean anything? That’s what the Supreme Court said in 2000.

          • nellcote

            Goopers screaming about something that doesn’t mean anything? That’ll never happen…

      • jeremy

        Exactly ! Obama will win the popular vote and all indications show that he will. A large amount of people will be voting even in the states effected by Sandy.

    • nellcote

      The storm damage will definitely have an impact on the ability of people to vote expecially in NJ and NY. But no one can know how much.

      • conlakappa

        Right but that’s just two States, presumptively blue ones any way. Neither is considered swing or a battleground. What excuses will there be for when Miffed cannot close the deal in most of the swing States–sympathy for the devilish brethren on the East?

        • nellcote

          AP’s talking about the national pop vote vs the EV. They’re trying to set up a 2000 scenario. It’s why it’s important to vote even in blue states to avoid that gooper arguement.

          • conlakappa

            Right. I get what they are talking about and I am all about GOTV. My point us that it isn’t grounded in reality. If it was that power outage that took out multiple States from the Midwest to the East 9 years ago, I could see it. This? Not so much.

  • Miranda

    Afternoon thread is up!