October 23, 2017

Saturday Open Thread: African-American Opera Singers

I hope everyone is enjoying their weekend.  Closing on this week’s open thread with the powerful Leontyne Price.

Mary Violet Leontyne Price (born February 10, 1927) is an American soprano. Born and raised in the Deep South, she rose to international acclaim in the 1950s and 1960s, and was one of the first African Americans to become a leading artist at the Metropolitan Opera.

One critic characterized Price’s voice as “vibrant”, “soaring” and “a Price beyond pearls”, as well as “genuinely buttery, carefully produced but firmly under control”, with phrases that “took on a seductive sinuousness.”  Time magazine called her voice “Rich, supple and shining, it was in its prime capable of effortlessly soaring from a smoky mezzo to the pure soprano gold of a perfectly spun high C.”

Among her many honors are the Presidential Medal of Freedom (1964), the Kennedy Center Honors (1980), the National Medal of Arts(1985), numerous honorary degrees, and nineteen Grammy Awards, 13 for operatic or song recitals, five for full operas, and a special Lifetime Achievement Award in 1989, more than any other classical singer. In October 2008, she was one of the recipients of the first Opera Honors given by the National Endowment for the Arts.

Leontyne Price was born in Laurel, Mississippi. Her father James worked in a lumber mill and her mother Katie was a midwife who sang in the church choir. At 14, she was taken on a school trip to hear Marian Anderson sing in Jackson, an experience she later said was inspirational.

Aiming for a teaching career, Price enrolled in the music education program at the all-black Wilberforce College in Wilberforce, Ohio. With the help of the Chisholms and the famous bass Paul Robeson, who put on a benefit concert for her, she enrolled on a scholarship at the Juilliard School in New York City, where she studied with Florence Page Kimball, who would remain her principal teacher and advisor throughout the 1960s.

Her first opera performance was as Mistress Ford in a 1952 student production of Verdi’s Falstaff. Shortly thereafter, Virgil Thomson hired her for the revival of his all-black opera, Four Saints in Three Acts. After a two-week Broadway run, Saints went to Paris. Meanwhile, she had been cast as Bess in the Blevins Davis/Robert Breen revival of George Gershwin’s Porgy and Bess, and returned for the opening of the national tour at the Dallas State Fair, on June 9, 1952. The tour visited Chicago, Pittsburgh, and Washington, D.C, and then went on a tour of Europe, sponsored by the U.S. State Department.

 Summertime -1978

In February 1955, she sang Puccini’s “Tosca” for NBC-TV Opera, under music director Peter Herman Adler, and became the first black to appear in a leading role in televised opera. Several NBC affiliates (not all Southern) canceled the broadcast in protest.

She took her first steps onto the grand operatic stage in San Francisco on September 20, 1957, singing Madame Lidoine in the U.S. premiere of Francis Poulenc’s Dialogues des Carmélites. A few weeks later, Price sang her first Aida, stepping in for Italian soprano Antonietta Stella. The following May, she made her European debut at the Vienna Staatsoper on May 24, 1958, as Aida, under Karajan. There followed debuts at London’s Royal Opera House, Covent Garden (replacing Anita Cerquetti), and at the Arena di Verona, both in Aida. She returned to Vienna the following year to sing Aida and her first onstage Pamina in Die Zauberflöte, and in the summer of 1959, made her debut at the Salzburg Festival in the “Missa Solemnis,” under Karajan.

The Metropolitan Opera invited Price to sing a pair of performances as Aida in 1958, but she turned down the offer on the advice of friends, including Peter Herman Adler, director of NBC Opera. “Leontyne is to be a great artist,” Adler said, according to William Warfield’s autobiography. “When she makes her debut at the Met, she must do it as a lady, not a slave.”

A year later, impressed by hearing her in Il Trovatore at Verona, in a performance with tenor Franco Corelli, Met General Manager Rudolf Bing offered her a debut season with multiple leading roles, and on January 27, 1961 she made a historic double-debut with Corelli in Trovatore. The final ovation lasted at least 35 minutes, one of the longest in Met history. (Price said her friends had timed it at 42 minutes, and she used that number in her later publicity.)

In the next few weeks, Price gave her Met performances as Aïda, Cio-Cio-San in Madama Butterfly, Donna Anna in Don Giovanni, and Liu in Turandot. In the middle of this extraordinary run of debuts, equaled by only a few sopranos in the Met’s history, Time magazine put her on its cover. The next fall, American music critics named her “Musician of the Year” and she was put on the cover of “Musical America.”

Other African American singers had preceded her in leading roles at the Met. However, Price was the first African American to build a star career on both sides of the Atlantic, the first to return to the Met in multiple leading roles, and the first to earn the Met’s top fee. In 1964, according to the Met archives, Leontyne Price was paid $2,750 per performance, on a par with Joan Sutherland, Maria Callas and Renata Tebaldi. At the time, Birgit Nilsson, who was unique in singing Italian and Wagnerian roles, earned the Met’s highest fee, $3,000 a performance.

In the late 1960s, Price cut back her operatic performances in favor of recitals and concerts.

Before retiring, Price gave several master classes at Juilliard and other schools. In 1997, at the suggestion of RCA-BMG, she wrote a children’s book version of Aida, which became the basis for the hit Broadway musical by Elton John and Tim Rice in 2000.

In October 2001, at age 74, Price was asked to come out of retirement to sing in a memorial concert at Carnegie Hall for the victims of the September 11 attacks. With James Levine at the piano, she sang a favorite spiritual, “This Little Light of Mine”, followed by an unaccompanied “God Bless America”, capping it with a bright, easy high B-flat. She lives in Greenwich Village in New York City.

***Information courtesy of Wikipedia.org***

  • dannie22

    good morning

    • Mornin’ Dannie & POU!

      Miss Leontyne is serving it in that first pic! Luv her!

      • GreenLadyHere

        GOOD SATURDAY MORNTIN’ Sepia. ***BIG HUG** :>)

        – – -***fist bump** – –The POWERFUL – -BUSINESS! :>)

        Just BEAUTIFUL!! :>) — – – -Have a good day. -Sepia :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    GOOD SATURDAY MORNTIN’ dannie22. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

    Bonne journee — -mon ami. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere


    — —-Annnnd — YOUR BREAKFAST IS READY:>) ——-ENJOY :>)

    ——-Have a RESTFUL annnnd BLESSED DAY. —-POU FAM. :>)—–

  • crazycanuck

    Good Morning Everyone. There is some earlybirds this morning. Great voice for a Saturday Mornning.

  • GreenLadyHere


    – – – — -YES! – – –The GR8 DIVA – – -Ms. LEONTYNE PRICE —-A BEAUTY with a BEAUTIFUL VOICE. :>)

    Annnd she has ENJOYED sooo many —FIRSTS!! – —-

    – – —FIRST– – –

    — – —–☻was one of the first African Americans to become a leading artist at the Metropolitan Opera.
    – – – – – ☻was one of the first African Americans to become a leading artist at the Metropolitan Opera. – – –

    – – — – -☻Price was the first African American to build a star career on both sides of the Atlantic, the first to return to the Met in multiple leading roles, and the first to earn the Met’s top fee. – – –

    – — Leontyne Price “God Bless America” Gala Tucker 2001 – – —ENJOY :>)


    • What power!!

      • GreenLadyHere

        GOOD SATURDAY MORNTIN’ woody45. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

        That LAST SONG – —WHEW LAWD!! – –SHE SOARS!! :>)

        — – —Annnd the ***standing -O-*** – – –SHE IS LOVED!! :>)

        Good 2 C U – –woody45. :>) Enjoy your day. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB – — -TODAY’s MARCH: – – -JUSTICE 4 TRAYVON MARCH annnd RALLY – — – – —

    – —SC NAACP Charters Buses to Justice for Trayvon Martin March & Rally – —

    —–A Call to Action

    Join our open call for justice for Trayvon and our children. We invite you to sign-up to travel with us to Sanford, Florida to march for justice. Trayvon’s parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, have been pillars of courage. Together they have stood and shown the world what hate and violence have done to their child, and the nation and the world have responded. We will stand with them on March 31, 2012.

    Where Can I Board a Bus Departing for the March & Rally?

    We are currently organizing bus transportation from these SC cities: Columbia, Florence, Orangeburg and North Charleston. Buses will depart for Sanford, FL on the evening of Friday, March 30, 2012. The exact site and time of departure will be listed on each ticket option.You will be able to view the ticket choices once you click the Order Now button above.

    – – – –RIHEP —T.M. – —JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL – –

  • Fans of other forms of music ain’t got nothing on opera goers. If the final applause last less than fifteen minutes that means you were alright or flat out stunk.

    I’m fascinated by the fact most of these people were not only from the South but the Deep South. The fact that they rose to such heights is a testament to their faith, talent and hard work.

    • Miranda

      That is so true…one of my favs is Jessye Norman, she was from Augusta, GA. I watched a PBS special with her and Kathleen Battle…gave me CHILLS.

      • Given their environment and the times opera seemed liked something totally out of their reach. But they would not be denied.

      • crazycanuck

        Wow, I actually remember that PBS special. You are right it was thrilling to watch. I wonder if it’s on youtube?

        • GreenLadyHere

          crazycanuck – – – -Iff I may: – – – –

          – —A Balm in Gilead Kathleen Battle Jessye Norman – —

          – – –DYNAMIC DUO – – :>)

          I’ll look 4 more. :>)

          • delphinium

            This beautiful arrangement is by the late composer Hale Smith. Check him out.

          • GreenLadyHere

            HEEY delphinium. **BIG HUG*** :>)

            O I C —–THANK U very much. :>)

            – —Hale Smith

            Do U know some of his other works? :>)

            Sooo good 2 C U. :>)

          • delphinium

            Here is one: http://marilynharris.com/halesmith.html
            Also, lovers of Eric Dolphy will recognize “Feather”.
            Love what you do!

          • GreenLadyHere

            delphinium – — – -WOW&1/2!!! — – –

            A GENIUS!!- –Vocals & Instruments. :>)

            THANK U VERY MUCH. :>)

          • delphinium thank you very much for the information. I didn’t know that he worked with Dizzy and Chico Hamilton or how versatile he was.

            Found this on from the NYT

            “Although Mr. Smith, an adviser for the Center for Black Music Research in Chicago, was routinely listed among the leading black composers of his day, he bristled at the designation. He wanted his work, and that of his black peers, to appear on programs with that of Beethoven, Mozart and Copland.

            “We don’t even have to be called black,” he wrote in an article in 1971. “When we stand for our bows, that fact will become clear when it should — after the music has made its own impact.”


            He knew being called a Black composer was an excuse to put him in a box and keep him there. Sort of like saying filmmaker Ron Howard, filmmaker Steven Spielberg,,,African-American filmmaker Tyler Perry.

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB – — -WHA’??? —- LET’S LISTEN – —CAREFULLY — – – – –

    — — Did Santorum almost call Obama the n-word? Candidate denies claim – – – –

    – – – – –Rick Santorum’s mouth may be getting him into trouble again. A few months after her was accused of saying he didn’t want to give “black people” someone else’s hard-earned money, he is denying that he may have nearly called the president the n-word during speech in Wisconsin. Raw Story, a progressive news site, has the video, and confronted the Santorum campaign about its candidate’s comments:


    – – — By David Edwards | Raw Story: The Internet was buzzing on Friday morning that Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum may have almost dropped the n-bomb on President Barack Obama.

    Speaking to a group of voters in Janesville, Wisconsin on Wednesday, the candidate seemed to catch himself before using a word that sounds like “n*gger” to describe the president. (The original video of the speech is available here. The remarks in question take place at about 34:50.)

    “We know the candidate Barack Obama, what he was like – the anti-war government nig… America was a source for division around the world, that what we were doing was wrong,” Santorum said.

    – —- –NIG. . . . ??? —-Like – — —??? —-Where ELSE could he B GOIN?? – – – –SAY IT!! SAY IT! – – – –

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB – – — -‘CAUSE he’s the MASTER STRATEGIST!! — – —

    – – – –Obama’s Recess Appointments Shift The Balance Of Power In Senate Back To The Majority – —

    – – – – –The Hill reports that, in return for a promise that President Obama will not make any recess appointments in the upcoming Senate break, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) agreed to stop obstructing several of the president’s nominees:

    “As the result of a successful discussion among the minority leader, the White House and myself there will be no recess appointments during the coming adjournment,” said [Majority Leader Harry] Reid, speaking from the Senate floor.

    b> In return, Republicans allowed passage by unanimous consent of several of President Obama’s noncontroversial nominees and allowed Reid to set up a vote on the confirmation of Stephanie Thacker to be a circuit judge for the Fourth Circuit for April 16, the day the Senate returns from its break.

    – — -SKIP – — –

    . . . . Nevertheless, this incident proves the wisdom of Obama’s decision to make several recess appointments earlier this year despite McConnell’s objections. Prior to Obama’s actions, he and Reid had few bargaining chips they could use to prevent McConnell’s obstructionism in a Senate ruled by the filibuster. Now, Obama and Reid can use the threat of future recess appointments to ensure that the party that voters did not want to control the Senate does not have a total veto power over the president’s nominees.

    – – – – — -CHECK!! – – – — :>) THANK U – –MR. PRESIDENT! :>)

    • He worked this one by just using patience and timing.

      • GreenLadyHere

        – —YES! :>) Now can some people C —-“WHYCOME” –

        —the “ABM”[Angry Black Male] – – -MODEL – –WOULD B an –EPIC FAIL? :>)

        As U have said – – –using patience and timing. -:>) – – –

        • I’m convinced all of those people calling for the ABM did so in the hopes that once The President flashed that anger his Presidency was over. And they know that.

          Then they could sit around on all those talking head shows and feign outrage while cracking their little snide racial jokes. The uncle Toms and aunt Thomasinas could have sat around pining for the days of Bill Clinton cause the “colored boy” just wasn’t up to the job.

          • GreenLadyHere

            woody45 – — -SURE THEY DID. – —

            Compare the THREAT of “UNLEASHING” – –by Rep. Maxine. What would THAT have gotten her – — NOTHIN’!!!! – —

            Look at her SILENCE — NOW [except 4 the one time that she recently supported MR. PRESIDENT]. – — She is — -has been marginalized!!

            He would have been 2 – – – –HE KNOWS!!

            WHAT he IS being RECENTLY —–is – — -FIERCELY FORCEFUL – –as he ADVANCES his POSITIONS!! –

            –Annnd he’s gettin’ – – -MUCH —
            – — —- R-E-S-P-E-C-T!! – -:>)

            ***fist bump*** :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB – – -SHARIN’ – – – —

    Baby I like it raw – –

    – – – –Congrats to ABL on her move to RawStory. You can hit the tip jar for her here. People think her appearance here was all John’s doing but it was really me who first started linking to her because I liked this phrase:

    – – – –CONGRATULATIONS ABL. :>) – – —

  • GreenLadyHere


    – — Memories! Trayvon Martin’s Prom Picture (PHOTOS)

    – – – – –Trayvon Martin’s family shares prom picture with GlobalGrind.

    Pictures courtesy of Martin/Fulton family.

    – – — LOVELY. :>) RIHEP – –T.M. — – – – –

    – – – – – —JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL AMEN – — – —

  • aleth

    Why isn’t this dude arrested?

    • crazycanuck

      I’ll like an answer to that also.

    • GreenLadyHere

      GOOD SATURDAY MORNTIN’ aleth. ***BIG HUG** :>)

      ***fist bump*** – –The — MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION!! — –

      – – -’cause the LONGER his ARREST drags out – —the more FEVER-PITCHED – — EMOTIONS/TENSIONS will RISE!

      I’m thinkin'[DANGEROUS – -I KNOW :>)]- – that SINCE the POLICE/SOLICITOR, etc. — BOTCHED the


      Alll that would B needed is 4 a case that would violate his – –

      “DUE PROCESS RIGHTS”. – – – -THEN – – -he might –“GET OFF” on a TECHNICALITY.

      Betcha my simplistic “thoughts” – –R 2 simplistic – –BUT this is the best that I can do. LOL.

      Good 2 C U –aleth. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB – — -Got 2 the “TPV” party L8 – – -BUT — -THIS article was the STR8 – – BUSNESS on PRESENTING STAT/DATA – –in SUPPORT of MR. PRESIDENT annnd DEMS. – – – —

    — — Desperate for a Whiter America: GOP Faces Disaster Among Minorities and Women – —

    – -PICS annnd GRAPHS[in THIS case] – —worth a —1000 WORDS!! :>)

    • caribbeanobserver

      Good Morning Ms Green. Gosh, I have been missing in action for a while with so much going on, especially Australia v West Indies cricket, even though I have neen lurking daily.Hope all is well with you.
      With all the racism being brought front and centre it is sooo lovely to read this. Cheers.


      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY caribbeanobserver. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

        THANK U sooo much. :>) I remember the – -***blank stares*** when they were born. LOL.

        They R LOVELY annnd HEALTHY in BODY annd MIND [dealing with the issue of COLOR]. -:>)

        What a NICE lift 2 the MORNTIN’ :>)

        Soooo GOOD 2 C U. caribbeanobserver. :>) —

        GOOD LUCK –in the CRICKETS. :>) What’ s the L8est? :>)

        • caribbeanobserver

          Well the 5 One Day matches is finished and the outcome was a tie in that Aussies won 2/ the West Indies won 2 with one tie ..and in the T 20 overs one day matches the Aussies 1/ West indies 1, therefore the series was tied.
          Goodness me, we always seem to be losing, especially as the Aussies are one of the best in the game, so at least we didn’t lose!!

          • GreenLadyHere

            caribbeanobserver – –CONGRATS! :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB – – – – -THIS is “old” – —BUT — — –the concept of – –INSTITUTIONAL FAILURES – –persists — – —

    – – –PoliticsNation: Institutional Failures in Trayvon Martin Case Discussed– —

    — – — National radio host Michael Baisden and former New York Governor David Paterson discussed the Trayvon Martin case with Rev. Al Sharpton. Baisden expressed outrage about the case in general, as well as the failure of the city manager to act decisively about whether Chief Bill Lee should have kept his job. Paterson further delved into institutional failures to exact justice in the wake of Trayvon Martin’s death.


  • crazycanuck

    I remember watching a movie called Diva back in the day. It was a French movie I remember hearing the most beautiful soundtrack with the most beautiful voice.That voice was Wilhelmenia Fernandez. That is how I was introduced to Opera.

    • GreenLadyHere

      crazycanuck — – – -AXE – — -RECEIVE :>) – – —

      – — –Aria from Diva – Wilhelmenia Wiggins Fernandez

      —- -AMAZING!! — — -WHAT a BEAUTY: – –COUNTENANCE annnd VOICE.!! – —:>)

      Thank U 4 introducing her. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB – —-LOL – – -Haven’t heard this phrase since – – -McAncient – — —

    – – –Dazed And Confused – —

    – – – –Greg Sargent asks why Mitt Romney is embracing the Paul Ryan Jump Off The Cliff economic plan so tightly.

    – – – -SKIP – — –“QUOTE”

    They’re going for it Greg because they’re counting on your employers at Kaplan, Inc. and the other Village media outlets to sell the Ryan Plan as not only morally desirable but absolutely necessary economically over the next several months and well beyond. It worked for the Bush tax cuts and Medicare drug benefit giveaway. It worked for Afghanistan and especially Iraq. Those cost us trillions but were sold as the right thing to do.

    The Ryan/Romney Austerity Plan will be no different. It will be the reason why, should the GOP gain control of the Senate, that the filibuster will be done away with and the President will get a nice shiny austerity budget. Selling that Romney will sign such a budget into law will be the big talking point.

    Meanwhile, austerity is destroying the EU and UK right now. All indications are they are back into a recession with no real hope of getting out. These guys want to make sure we’re next.

    • This right here. How many times did the President warn European leaders to jolt the economy first before attempting to scale back? They wouldn’t listen and now Cameron is fighting for his political life and Europe is in real deal trouble which btw makes the President’s decision to pivot toward Asia-Pacific that much more brilliant.

      Ryan could care less about the deficit. For crying out loud his plan doesn’t even come close to balancing the budget. This is him trying to live out some hack writer’s fantasy and ensure this country goes belly up.

      • GreenLadyHere


        – —☻ -THIS: — – –How many times did the President warn European leaders to jolt the economy first before attempting to scale back? They wouldn’t listen. . .

        Annnd HE SHOWED THEM!!: – — –The Economic Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 First Quarterly Report

        Somethin’ ’bout – – “LEADING a HORSE 2 WATER – – BUT. . . . . .”

        — -☻ RYAN – – – -ANYTHING 2 attempt 2 DEFEAT MR PRESIDENT!! – – –

        Somethin’ ’bout – – -CUTTIN’ OFF ONE’s NOSE – –. . . .

        – – -BEYOND INCREDIBLE — on EITHER FRONT. ***tsk*** ***eye roll***

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB – – –A NEW VOICE — – –

    – –Brotherly Support! Trayvon Martin’s Brother Speaks (VIDEO) – – – –

    – – – – – – – -SKIP – – —

    Trayvon’s brother Jahvaris Fulton, a student at Florida International University, spoke exclusively with CBS Miami about his disapproval of decisions made by Sanford authorities saying:

    “It’s just baffling how people just take his word for it, as if that’s exactly what happened, and no question about it,” said Fulton. I think it sends the wrong message. It tells people that you can murder someone, no one sees it, and you can say its self defense. That’s essentially what happened and I don’t think people should get that.”

    Jahvaris, who plans on attending a Miami rally for Trayvon today, urged supporters “justice to continue to fight for justice…”

    To see more of what Jahvaris had to say, watch the accompanying video.
    More on: He has a name, Trayvon Martin

    – — RIHEP – –T.M. — – –JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL. – – –

    • MssavingTheBestForLAST

      Hey Ms GLH! That was so poignant….Jahvaris feels his brother is still away visiting and his death doesn’t seem real. I just want to weep and wail! It is just so so and so frustrating that these things continue to happen over and over again.

      Wow. I am a mother with one adult son who is the father of three young boys. All this is making me relive the time my son was stopped for “fitting the description”. He had just gotten off work and was so angered about this suspicion that he was not thinking clearly about his conduct. He was loud, argumentative, and using profanity…which INCENSED the three policeman who had him up against the fence in front of the apartment building where we lived back then. All I could think about was Amadou dying in a hail of bullets and I did everything I could to calm the situation down! It ended without any incident or arrest thankfully but I feared that I would never see my son again alive or without injury IF he had gotten into that police car. Interestingly enough one of the officers was black (the others were white and Asian). We didn’t live in the best neighborhood back then, and the cops seemed to always conduct themselves in a hostile manner when there, which is another element to this sad situation (Are all blacks living in poor neighborhoods suspect?).

      I don’t know how Ms. Fulton, Amadou’s mom (sorry I don’t know her name), and all the other mothers/fathers who have lost their sons (and daughters) to violence carry on….starting with Emmit Till’s mom. I have no faith in the justice system in this country and I sadly think that Zimmerman will walk, even if he is arrested and goes to trial.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY MssavingTheBestForLAST. ***BIG HUG*** :>)


        – – -SHARING your feelings. :>) – – —

        – – – –Amadou Diallo shooting — –

        His mother was interviewed – — HERE – — –Video: CNN’s Beyond Trayvon Preview (Trayvon Martin’s Lawyer Speaks On The Case) —-

        She spoke of her daughter who had triplet boys who R 7 yo. Annnd she is FEARFUL of the time that THEY turn 17 yo. – – –GENERATIONAL GRIEVING. — -***tears***

        Seem as ifff WE neva get 2 CEASE these FEELINGS.

        WE WILL — STAND STRONG 2-GETHER annnd –

        –“LEAN on the EVERLASTING ARM.” – -AMEN.

        Good 2 C U. :>)

  • Rhoda

    Afternoon, POU.

    So, I want to comment on a post made by digby yesterday regarding comments Vice President Biden made.

    The only way this makes sense is if he believes that the “challenges” are that Obama’s domestic opposition is far stronger than that faced by Roosevelt. And that might even have some basis. I think it could be a good argument. But to imply that the problems Obama faced on a policy level were more complicated — not to mention the scope of the problems — is just cracked. I think we can all agree that the Great Depression and Hitler were just a little bit more difficult than dealing with this recession and Mitch McConnell. Nobody’s saying those aren’t tough problems, but let’s keep this in perspective.

    First, she begins by acknowledging that the Vice President has some basis in fact to call the situation he and President Obama faced as comparable to that of FDR. But then she says it’s cracked to think that the policy issues faced and the actors dealt with were harder. Let’s get this clear.

    1. President Obama faced a far more complicated and global crisis than FDR did; the institutions that FDR created to prevent another depression were stretched to the limit and a massive stimulus was regarded and that stimulus had to be global in order to be effective. That’s what the President and his team faced on a policy level. An incredibly complicated global Gordian knot that major economists had rational disagreements about how to untangle and a false move could lead to catastrophe.

    To not recognize the depth of the crisis and the evolution of the economy since the 30s making this exponentially harder is “cracked.”

    2. The Republican party voted in lockstep against ALL measures to save this economy and this treason was ignored by liberals as they turned their fire on the administration and mocked them for creating a President Snowe, President Collins, President Specter, and President Nelson and the like ignoring that these were the conservatives votes that saved this country.

    FDR entered with the economy having COLLAPSED and Republicans discredited; he had overwhelming majorities that did his bidding. Not a divided senate.

    3. The second world war was clear and direct and that clarity helped unite the world in a common purpose. That clarity helped unite the country and the war was felt at every level. In contrast, the current global terror is fragmented and the military is composed of a small portion of this population that bares all the sacrifices.

    The USA was overextended and it’s reputation in tatters when POTUS entered the arena; he had to go on a world tour to rebuild our bridges to the world. FDR did not have to do that AND save the economy.

    The entire post should be read to understand the depth and delusion on the left as to the circumstances this country faced and the reality of how far President Obama, Vice President Biden and their team had to pull this country. We were over a cliff and holding on to a tattered and frayed rope. We got a leg over the side and climbing back on to solid ground; that’s amazing.

    It’s sad how “reality based” liberals refuse to acknowledge what this administration has accomplished.

    • Ebogan63

      She is pretty stupid if she believes the challenges this administration faced: (1) a possible global economic collapse that would have made the Great Depression child’s play (2)having a military fighting 2 wars and being overextended(3) an MSM that through the right ‘working the refs’ has been nothing more than a limp paperweight at best., and a water-carrier at worst for the GOP- the anti-PBO propagada arrayed at this president is not nearly anything FDR faced(4)a GOP that now operates more like a cult than a political party.

      Much of the left in America is a discredited, marginalized force in American politics.opting to pursue the same failed, stale tactics and outlook that Digby clings to. The results of the 2000 election in my mind, has discredited the left, through their misguided bid to run Nader as president, and make the race closer to have it stolen by GWB and the Sup. Ct. It is my fervent hope that a decisive reelection of PBO will once and for all marginalize these folks to cause a much long overdue
      soul-searching and reassessment of goals and tactics for the left.

      But I won’t hold my breath.

      • Aquagranny911

        Dang, you are good! That was an excellent comment & I’m not holding my breath either.

      • Aquagranny911

        Dang, you are good! That was an excellent comment & I’m not holding my breath either.

        • Ebogan63

          Thanks AG and GLH! You two ain’t bad on commenting yerselves! 🙂 I was very much part of the far Left in my outlook during my college days in the ’80’s and 90’s, started to become dissapointed with them towards to latter part of the 90’s, and was done after the debacle of 2000. PBO pretty much handed the left their ass in ’08, and they haven’t forgiven him for it.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY Ebogan63. ***BIG HUG*** :>)


        THIS – — –The results of the 2000 election in my mind, has discredited the left, through their misguided bid to run Nader as president, and make the race closer to have it stolen by GWB and the Sup. Ct.

        – – – –EVIDENCE that —WE SHOULDN’T —But I won’t hold my breath. – – – –

        GR8 ARGUMENT!! :>)

        Good 2 C U. –Ebogan63. :>)

      • I’m going give her a pass on this one. Facing off against the number one and number two militaries with leaders at the helm that literally wanted to take over the world is no joke.

        Yes the world may have been united (to a point) but many were absolutely powerless to stop them. One group had perfected mechanized lighting war. The other had been island hopping since the twenties.

        And while the GOP of that era was not in lockstep FDR had a more insidious fight on his hand. Southern Democrats of his own party effectively killed the New Deal.

        There were also powerful forces that hated Roosevelt’s guts and called him and his wife every name in the book including socialist. General Smedley Butler stated these forces wanted him to lead a coup.

        It’s really a matter of perspective but I can understand where Digby is coming from.

        • Ebogan63

          Again, we will have to agree to disagree with this, Woody. What you say about WWII is all true, but I really cannot stand this effort on the part of some liberals like Digby to minimize any and all accomplishments this administration had achieved and the challenges it faced. I think more times than not, she if full of shit.

          • I know I’m late with this but on that point we agree 100 percent Ebogan and then some. I was merely speaking from a historical perspective but you are spot on with the larger point and that’s the never ending trashing of this President by people who allegedly call themselves progressives (because the word liberal frightens them).

            He adverts a worldwide economic train wreck and they still whine that the stimulus is too small. We finally get a national health system and every few weeks the stupid public option complaint flares up. In the meantime there heroes fail miserably but they hold them up like shining lights on the hill. FDR and JFK went from being pragmatic politicians to Greek myths.

            I’ve had enough of that junk.

    • GreenLadyHere

      HEEY Rhoda- –***BIG HUG** :>)

      – – -THIS — ->It’s sad how “reality based” liberals refuse to acknowledge what this administration has accomplished. – – –

      – — – -Annnd ALL —WHAT U SAID!! :>)- – – – –

      Annnd it isn’t ONLY the “PROBLEMS” – —IT is the Concomitant —RACISM that COLORS ALL CRITICISMS!!

      — Annnnd- –I’m NOT gon attend an — –ANALYTICAL —-PHILOSOPHICAL – –NON-SENSICAL MEETING in order 2 discuss this. :>) — – –


      Good 2 C U. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB – –Here R a FEW MORE of -DIVA Jessye Norman annd Kathleen Battle: – – – –

    – – –Jessye Norman + Kathleen Battle ‘Certainly, Lord’ 1990 – – – –

    – — – – –Jessye Norman + Kathleen Battle ‘He’s Got The Whole World In His Hand’ 1990 – – —

    – – -Ms Jessye is – — WEARIN’ THAT DRESS. :>) Annd her HAIR – – -RIGHTEOUS. :>)

    – – – -ENJOY. :>) —

  • crazycanuck

    Will somebody get my butt of this bed to do something productive. #toolazyforwords

    • GreenLadyHere

      LOL, crazycanuck – – —HERE YA GO!! :>) — —

      – — BRUNCH has been prepared. :>) LOL/

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB — — -UH! OH! – – – –***side-eye*** – — –

    – —Special Prosecutor Wants To Seal Official Documents In Trayvon Case [VIDEO] – —

    – — –Special prosecutor Angela Corey now says she wants to keep all documents in the Trayvon Martin case sealed from the media and will no longer be talking to the press. This announcement comes just days after surveillance video from inside the Sanford, Florida, police station was leaked showing George Zimmerman with the police.

    Terence J, host of BET’s 106 and Park talked to Jane about the latest developments in the Trayvon Martin case.

    — — -☻ — -WHICH DOCUMENTS R called – -OFFICIAL??

    — — –☻ – –Has SHE eva TALKED 2 the PRESS?

    — — ☻ — WHEN will SHE have –“z-man” –ARRESTED??? – – –so that the

    –OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS — can B – – –OFFICIALLY USED in a —COURT of LAW!!! – – – –

  • rikyrah

    thank you for this opera series.

  • rikyrah

    Quote of the Day
    By Steve Benen

    Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:09 PM EDT

    We talked earlier about Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), chairman of the House Budget Committee, who insisted yesterday that he, not America’s military leadership, should be trusted when it comes to Pentagon spending levels. Ryan went on to say that he believes Pentagon leaders may be deliberately misleading Congress about spending cuts that they’ve requested, but which Ryan does not want to make.

    Today, the highest ranking military officer in the United States Armed Forces responded to the congressman’s unfounded accusations.

    [Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff] took sharp exception to the chairman’s comments.

    “There’s a difference between having someone say they don’t believe what you said versus … calling us, collectively, liars,” Gen. Dempsey told reporters aboard a U.S. military aircraft after a four day visit to Latin America. “My response is: I stand by my testimony. This was very much a strategy-driven process to which we mapped the budget.”

    Gen. Dempsey said the budget “was a collaborative effort” among the top officers of the military branches as well as combat leaders.

    It would appear Gen. Dempsey was unimpressed with Ryan’s allegations, which were made without proof.

    The question for members of Congress is whether they consider the chairman of the Joint Chiefs more credible about necessary Pentagon spending or the right-wing Budget Committee chairman, who has no experience in the military or in national security policy at any level.

    Or put another way, Gen. Dempsey is, in effect, saying, “We don’t need this money to keep America safe.” To which Ryan is, in effect, replying, “You do need this money, and if you disagree, you’re not telling the truth.”

    As for suggesting that U.S. military leaders are, in Dempsey’s word, “liars,” it’ll be interesting to see if Ryan reconsiders the nature of his criticisms.


  • rikyrah

    It’s Not That Complicated

    by BooMan
    Sat Mar 31st, 2012 at 12:09:56 PM EST

    I keep seeing these articles from the right about how appalling the whole Trayvon Martin case is because people are “politicizing” it, or “jumping to conclusions,” or assuming a racist motive. I find it all crushingly boring. At its simplest, this case is about a boy who was minding his own business and lost his life. But it’s also about the man who killed him and remains free. Why is he free? Is it because the police believed his story? No, the lead investigator recommended charging him with manslaughter. Is it because of the Florida Stand Your Ground law? The chief of police claimed that the same day his department asked the prosecutor to bring charges. Plus, the law doesn’t seem to apply to the facts in this case. The Stand Your Ground law would not appear to have anything to do with why Zimmerman wasn’t charged. Is he free because witness testimony backs up his story? Not that I can tell. Other than officer Tim Smith’s police report, I haven’t seen any witness testimony that backs up his story.

    For some unknown reason, this man killed someone and was not charged with a crime. We know the state prosecutor made the call, and then recused himself from the case to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest. But we don’t know what that conflict might be. Did he know Zimmerman’s father? Did they talk to each other the night of the incident? We don’t know.

    But it isn’t appalling that people think this poor unfortunate boy’s death should be adjudicated. By all means, let Zimmerman bring forth any evidence he can to sustain his claim that he was attacked, injured, and fearful for his life. Let him prove that he received medical care, that his head had a wound so bad it ordinarily would need stitches, and that his nose was broken. He can bring forth the medical records his family says will back up his case. He can bring forth the fire department medic who supposedly tended to his wounds.

    But none of these witnesses can be compelled to speak up until there is an arrest, charges are brought, and there is a discovery process.

    That’s all people want. Zimmerman killed a boy. Let him explain why he had to do that to a jury of his peers. And let’s have another investigation into why the state prosecutor did not bring charges and find out why he had a conflict of interest in the case.

    Is that so hard? Do we have to inject all kinds of irrelevant crap into this case?


    • Worldwatcher7

      I don’t find it all “crushingly boring.” I find it to be evidence of the weight of systematic racism on the lives of Black folks. The outrageous arguments those right wingers are putting forth are made possible by the general acceptance of negative stereotypes about Black people throughout the society. This is about much more than the details of this sad case.

      I think the writer’s privilege is showing.

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB — – FIRST – — the GOOD NEWS – – –THEN – – –NEWS from the RE-THUGS: – – — –

    – – –Working-Family Tax Credits Kept Nearly 5 Million Women Out Of Poverty In 2010 – —

    – – — –The government programs that comprise America’s social safety net have had a profound effect on working families and the unemployed, particularly throughout the Great Recession and the slow economic recovery that has followed. But tax credits, which often go overlooked in discussions on how to prevent poverty, also have a huge impact on working families.

    Many working families are now being led by single mothers or women who are primary breadwinners, and according to an analysis from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, two primary tax credits are responsible for keeping millions of women and girls out of poverty each year. The Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), which benefits low-income workers, kept an estimated 3.4 million women above the poverty line in 2010. Add in the Child Tax Credit (CTC), and the number of women who avoided poverty swells to nearly 5 million, CBPP found:

    The numbers rise when you include a second federal income tax credit — the less well-known CTC, which provides up to $1,000 per child for working families: together, the CTC and EITC kept 4.9 million women and girls above the poverty line in 2010, including more than 800,000 just by the Recovery Act’s expansions of both credits.

    — – -SKIP – — – – – – – -C CHART – – – –

    — — –Unfortunately, the newly-adopted House GOP budget could end many tax breaks in order to finance a massive tax cut for the rich, though Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-WI) refuses to say which breaks would be eliminated. If the GOP and Ryan continue their history of targeting programs that benefit the poor to pay for tax breaks for the rich, however, beneficial tax credits like the EITC and CTC could be at risk.

    – – – –ALWAYS the OBSTRUCTIONISTS — -with their — WAR ON WOMEN [in this case]. – – -geesh!!

  • GN

    I am really and truly going to need ows, Van Jones, etc. to keep their PBO nonsense out of the Justice For Trayvon movement (“he never talks about black issues yada yada yada”). That Trayvon movement is so successful because both its organizers and its participants are serious, have a purpose/focus, are without hidden agenda, and know how to use peaceful protest to make change, in this case, not allowing state authorities to sweep a murder under the rug and allow the killer to get away scott free. Compared to where they were just a few weeks ago, they have tangible accomplishments. Were ows/Van Jones/PL in charge, the whole thing would have collapsed by now into a kitchen sink of grievances (“Wall St. pigs killed Trayvon!”) followed by despondent participants giving it all up to get in scrapes with the police because their demands haven’t been met immediately. /rant off

    • Ebogan63

      Yep, the leftists stay grifting and losing.

      • GN

        It’s just so counterproductive. With this administration, we have a DOJ which intervened at relatively lightening speed. How can it make any sense to continue their drumbeat against President Obama merely because PBO uses different (and IMO far more successful) tactics to bring about positive change? I truly believe that PBO making a simple statement that Trayvon could have been his son, is all Americans’ sons, and that as a country, we should be invested in making sure that justice is served, did a lot to challenge the negative perceptions of black people and insure that *this* kid’s killer isn’t going to skate. I can’t abide the continuing efforts “from the left” to render him, his words, and his accomplishments invisible while hypocritically bemoaning the fact that black people are seen as less than.

        • Miranda

          What have Van and OWS done now?

          • GN

            Van rubbed me the wrong way when he said on Bill Maher that PBO generally avoids race (he was trying to be complimentary re: PBO’s remarks about Trayvon, but this assertion just isn’t true). And I saw a few ows tweets like this: “Black #occupyDC’ers have shifted their focus to protesting the Obama admin’s handling of the Trayvon Martin killing http://bit.ly/H5Gzfn” and was just like, please, can people stay focused.

          • GOVCHRIS1988

            Ok, I hope not to seriously offend anyone here when I say this, but can these REVOLUTIONARY SPAWN OF SHEEPSHIT SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!! I’m sorry, but this is the reason why I cannot stand Occupy. This ignant shit here. I mean, these people NEVER go anywhere else except to the President. I think these dumbasses don’t know that there are Senators, Mayors or Governors that they could be protesting for action. But NO!!! The only segment of Govt. that is actually doing something, The Obama Justice Department, they have to attack.

            You know what, I don’t want to say this, but I hope these dumbasses just stay the hell home November 6th. I am so doubtful of their intelligence and absolutely sure of their shortsightedness to fear these guys would vote for Mitt Romney and use their bullshit “purity” reasoning.

          • Van “Kalinga” Jones can have several seats with that bs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNBt4srCn84

          • GN

            I can’t…goodbye cruel world_______________________________________________

          • GN

            + that video is a perfect description of the sole patrol and the professional left: “once in office, this white capitalist swine” “SWINE” “preach, brother!”–spot. on.

    • What happened?

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB: – — – -POSTING 4 the PICS: — –

    – – – –A Guide To The Night George Zimmerman Killed Trayvon Martin

    FIRST: – — -NOT all of these – – -OFFICIAL facts/documents/etc. R accurate.


    –is that —-“z-man” – – -an ARMED MAN- – —

    – – – -MURDERED – — -TRAYVON –who was carrying —ICED TEA annnd SKITTLES. – – –

    – – -RIHEP – –T.M. – — –JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL– —

    Blessed R they that MOURN- — 4 they SHALL B COMFORTED. – – –

  • GreenLadyHere


    -2 SHOW how the USUAL – -LOUDMOUTHS R soooo SILENT!! – – – – –

    — – –Joe Scarborough calls out Daily Call… er… Conservative attackers of Trayvon – – —

    – — -JOE – –IZZAT -U? – – –

    • Alma98

      I stole this from you GLH. LOL

      • GreenLadyHere

        HELP!! – – – -HELP! – – – -I BEEN ROBBED! – – —

        Oh — -waitaminute – —I mis-understood. LOL.

        Isn’t it the — PERFECT BUSINESS!? – – -LOL

        – – -USE ON –Alma98. :>)

  • rikyrah

    Not Getting It At All
    By John Cole March 31st, 2012

    Rich “starbursts” Lowry opens up a can of silly in the National Review with a piece titled “The Murders That Don’t Count: In America, the lives of young black people are cheap, unless they happen to fit the right agenda.” Already groaning? Don’t stop now. It gets worse:

    Delric Miller IV died in a hail of bullets a month ago. When someone fired 37 AK-47 rounds into his Detroit home at 4:30 a.m., he was mortally wounded while dozing on the couch. He was nine months old. No one made the multicolored teething ring he got for Christmas or his toy hammer into a national symbol of random violence.

    Last year, Charinez Jefferson, 17, was shot and killed on a Chicago street. “She begged the shooter not to shoot her because she was pregnant,” a pastor explained. The alleged assailant, Timothy Jones, 18, shot her in the head, chest and back after seeing her walking with a rival gang member. New York Times columnist Charles Blow did not write a column about Jefferson’s killing as a symbol of the perils of being a young black woman in America.

    Last June, a stray bullet from a confrontation on a Brighton Beach, N.Y., boardwalk killed 16-year-old Tysha Jones as she sat on a bench. A 19-year-old man, out for revenge after an earlier scuffle on the boardwalk, was charged in the shooting. Tysha’s heartbroken mother was not featured on all the national TV shows.

    In January, 12-year-old Kade’jah Davis was shot and killed when, allegedly, 19-year-old Joshua Brown showed up at her Detroit house to demand the return of a cellphone from Davis’ mother. When Brown didn’t get the phone, he fired shots through the front door. No one held high-profile street protests to denounce gunplay over such trifles.

    You have to work to be this obtuse. In each and every case listed above, the police and authorities have arrested and charged the murderer, or are working nonstop to discover who the murderers are and track them down and prosecute them.

    That’s one reason why the Trayvon Martin case is different. We know precisely who killed him, yet he walks free and clear. That is why the outrage is so loud. Trayvon Martin was killed for the crime of walking while black, the cops did nothing to investigate his death and appear to be actively impeding any investigation, they basically gave his killer a pat on the back before sending him on his way, and then they slapped a John Doe tag on his corpse and threw him into the morgue’s lost and found pile.

    Yes, each and everyone of the murders that halfwit Lowry mentioned is awful. Yes, black on black crime is awful. But in each case above, the victim’s family are receiving some semblance of justice.

    And that is all anyone wants for Trayvon Martin. Justice.

    Lowry just can’t be that stupid.


    • Miranda

      Yes he can be that stupid. Stop giving these mofos credit. They are stupid, ignorant and dangerous.

  • QOakaJP

    EMS reports obtained by NY Daily News confirm that Zimmerman HAD NO SERIOUS INJURIES the night of the shooting. In fact, a second ambulance originally called to treat him on the scene for possible injuries was cancelled.


    So what will the Z family’s next story be?

    • GN

      Well obviously the paramedics attacked him from behind…

      • LOL! You ain’t right!

        • rikyrah

          the obviousness of the crookedness and lies is filling the air so thick, you can choke on it.

    • rikyrah

      ot- don’t know if I’ve told you before, but I think your avatar is so cute.

      • QOakaJP

        Thanks! 🙂

    • GreenLadyHere

      HEEY QOakaJP ——***BIG HUG*** :>)

      LOL — – — waitaminute. . . .Ms Corey jus’ SAID —NO MORE OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS will B RELEASED 2 the MEDIA.

      Soooo — – I ***quizzically **** axe – —IS THIS OFFICIAL?? — -LOL –

      – -GR8 – – -GET QOakaJP!! – – – — WE KNEW!! —THT VIDEO WAS CLEAR!!. :>) —

      NEXT LIE – — -“z-man_ anem!! LOL.

      Good 2 C U. :>)

      • GN

        Yeah, not an official release, but the news report does cite evidence which comports with the surveillance tape which showed Zimmerman’s lack of serious injury:

        On Friday, the Daily News obtained EMS documents suggesting Zimmerman, who an ex-colleague said was fired from a security job for being too aggressive, did not sustain serious injuries in the fatal encounter.

        Paperwork detailing the EMS response to the shooting scene shows that a call for a second ambulance was canceled.

        An audiotape containing the EMS communications, also obtained by The News on Friday, records unidentified workers discussing the scene.

        Zimmerman’s condition is mentioned briefly in the 30-minute recording.

        “Do we have a second patient?” a man asks.

        “That’s affirmative. We have a second patient,” a woman replies. “The second patient is not a gunshot.”

        Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ems-tapes-show-george-zimmerman-sustain-fatal-injuries-encounter-trayvon-martin-article-1.1053821#ixzz1qjXVHLXB

        • GreenLadyHere

          GN – – —THANK U. :>)

          BUT when I asked about OFFICIAL releases – – -I was –BEYOND SERIOUS. :>)

          The media will GET information – -OFFICIAL or NOT.


          I’m NOT sure WHAT we will B missing.- — –

          Just wondering. . .. ….

          • GN

            haha. Yes, I’d imagine that every time one of the Zimmermans or Joe Oliver runs to the media with a self-serving and doubtful tale of woe, there are people involved with this case who become more than happy to turn into faucets and leak. But the tweets that the EMS reports have been released aren’t quite accurate. Agreed 100% that info is going to continue to get out there regardless.

          • GreenLadyHere

            GN — – -LOL. – —more than happy to turn into faucets and leak.

            IMMA wait annnd C what we NOT GON C in the MEDIA. – – -:>)

            R we havin’ FUN YET!? – – – -:>)

            WHEW LAWD. :>)

    • Miranda

      If the EMS medics are black, they’ll say racism.

  • rikyrah

    Will a Tea Party Supreme Court guarantee Obama a second term?
    The court’s conservative wing appears ready to engage in some despicable judicial activism on ObamaCare. Politically, at least, the justices are doing Obama a favor
    posted on March 30, 2012, at 9:45 AM

    Recall the scorn toward health reform dripping from the lips of Injustice Antonin Scalia. Or think of the tight-lipped Clarence Thomas, who could send a mannequin to sit in his place at the court’s oral arguments for all the difference his brooding presence makes. Along with the more plausibly judicious Samuel Alito, he too had more than likely made his decision. And so on the nation’s highest court, satire replaced stare decisis in a slightly altered version of the Red Queen’s jurisprudence in Alice in Wonderland: First the verdict, then the trial.

    Some observers, and administration officials, hold out hope that Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Anthony Kennedy will decide to save health reform from the revanchist claims of right-wing constitutionalism. I’m pessimistic because I lived through Bush v. Gore, when the court acted like a political ward committee, stopping the vote count in Florida to hand the presidency to George W. Bush by the margin of a single judicial vote.

    Now comes the historic decision on health reform — which could reach far beyond the case to fray the whole fabric of progress in modern America. To overturn the individual mandate, to throw out all or most of the rest of the law, would be an act of naked judicial activism, which conservatives profess to despise. In truth, though, they practice it vigorously, in barely concealed disguise, when it advances their own ends. Depending on the “reasoning” rationalized by five horsemen of the judicial right, they could jeopardize other basic protections — for example, the prohibition against segregation at distinctly local enterprises like lunch counters, a prohibition that depends on a generous and long-prevailing view of federal regulation of interstate commerce.

    An over-reaching court could shatter the vestigial credibility of an institution defaced by Bush v. Gore and by Citizens United — which incredibly held that there is insufficient evidence that money corrupts politics and thereby loosed a tide of special interest cash that is engulfing the politics of 2012. The opponents of ObamaCare, congregated and clamoring on the steps of the court, demanded a judicial killing of the law on the grounds that it is unpopular. In fact, as the pollster Mark Mehlman has demonstrated, the margins here are “rather shaky” and some surveys “even suggest that more Americans now favor than oppose the reform.” In any event, it is emphatically not the province of the judicial branch to follow the polls rather than precedent.


  • GN

    Trayvon Martin shooting: It’s not George Zimmerman crying for help on 911 recording, 2 experts say
    As the Trayvon Martin controversy splinters into a debate about self-defense, a central question remains: Who was heard crying for help on a 911 call in the moments before the teen was shot?

    A leading expert in the field of forensic voice identification sought to answer that question by analyzing the recordings for the Orlando Sentinel.

    His result: It was not George Zimmerman who called for help.

    Tom Owen, forensic consultant for Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence, used voice identification software to rule out Zimmerman. Another expert contacted by the Sentinel, utilizing different techniques, came to the same conclusion.

    Zimmerman claims self-defense in the shooting and told police he was the one screaming for help. But these experts say the evidence tells a different story.

    ‘Scientific certainty’

    On a rainy night in late February, a woman called 911 to report someone crying out for help in her gated Sanford community, Retreat at Twin Lakes.

    Though several of her neighbors eventually called authorities, she phoned early enough for dispatchers to hear the panicked cries and the gunshot that took Trayvon Martin’s life.

    George Zimmerman, a Neighborhood Watch volunteer, shot Trayvon, an unarmed 17-year-old, during a one-on-one confrontation Feb. 26.

    Before the shot, one of them can be heard screaming for help.

    Owen, a court-qualified expert witness and former chief engineer for the New York Public Library’s Rodgers and Hammerstein Archives of Recorded Sound, is an authority on biometric voice analysis — a computerized process comparing attributes of voices to determine whether they match.

    After the Sentinel contacted Owen, he used software called Easy Voice Biometrics to compare Zimmerman’s voice to the 911 call screams.

    “I took all of the screams and put those together, and cut out everything else,” Owen says.

    The software compared that audio to Zimmerman’s voice. It returned a 48 percent match. Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he’d expect higher than 90 percent.

    “As a result of that, you can say with reasonable scientific certainty that it’s not Zimmerman,” Owen says, stressing that he cannot confirm the voice as Trayvon’s, because he didn’t have a sample of the teen’s voice to compare.

    Forensic voice identification is not a new or novel concept; in fact, a recent U.S. Department of Justice committee report notes that federal interest in the technology “has a history of nearly 70 years.”


    • crazycanuck

      Was Zimmerman crying for help because he broke a nail?

      • GN

        No wonder the Sanford PD didn’t want those 911 tapes released.

    • Kennymack1971

      And the house of cards just keeps falling apart….

    • Can’t wait to see how they spin this one.

      • GN

        “What had happened was ‘help me!!!!!!!!!’ is a term of endearment…well, no, I agree, that makes no sense…um, what had happened was my daughter says that all the kids use desperate cries for help to indicate that they’re savagely attacking someone who is engaging in self-defense.” /Joe Oliver

    • Miranda

      Like woody said last week…some folks betta be lawyering up.


    I’m listening to Joe Williams singing “Who She Do” on Real Jazz channel on SiriusXM, and check out this lyric:

    The lady ain’t a jockey but she taught me how to ride
    The lady ain’t a jockey but she taught me how to ride
    She said, “Come here young man! Get it once in the middle and then from side to side”


    Here’s the entire song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1tl9pquAxM

    • They knew what they were doing back in the day.

      • I’m so mad at Mr. Williams’ lil gyration in that video!

    • Miranda


  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB: – – — – – —-–ANYONE????? ——

    — – —VIDEO: Melissa Harris-Perry’s Guide for How White People Can Talk About Trayvon Martin — –

    ————☻-RULE A. ——–There is a DIFFERENCE BETWEEN a MONOLOGUE annnnd a DIALOGUE. ——DURING this time—–IMHO, there is GR8er NEED 4—a—-DIALOGUE!!!

    ———–☻-RULE B.- — THAT TOPIC should have been USED on ANY OTHER EVENT!/INCIDENT!!. – —We R NOT IN PLAY MODE !!! ——- MOST of US R —-STILL GRIEVING!!- ——-

    – ———☻RULE C.—-My interest is NOT in TEACHING WYT PEOPLE how 2 have a—-DIALOGUE ABOUT “BLAH” PEOPLE!!——-
    NOT NOW! —–NOT EVA!!!

    ———-☻-RULE D.- – -YOUR RULE #4:- ——TAKE your TIME—annnd -THINK —-B4 YOU SPEAK!!!– —

    – ——–☻RULE E —–YOUR RULE #6:——-“SILENCE IS GOLDEN!!” ——-
    – ————-HAVE SOME!!!!!——

    – ——- ***shakin’ my head —sooooo HARD!!****—INCREDULOUSLY!!!!——

    • Alma98


      • GreenLadyHere

        Alma98 — — — -SHE was – -havin’ FUN!! – — tellin OFF WYT PEOPLE – — -in a MONOLOGUE – – – -in a STUDIO! — — -WITH NO REBUTTAL!- – – – –

        • Alma98

          Oh ok I’ll delete then lol.

          • GreenLadyHere

            Alma98 – – – -THIS was HER SHOW!

          • Alma98

            I didn’t watch too busy helping the hubby destroy our plumbing lol.

          • GreenLadyHere

            Alma98 — — -I di-ent watch it either. BUT when I found this – – -I’m goin’ — -R U KIDDING ME!!.

            Ho NICE of U. -WORKIN’ on the PLUMBING. :>) – — Awwwww. :>)

          • Alma98

            Let’s hope it works when we’re done. We’re gonna do the kitchen cabinets next keep your fingers crossed for us hahaha.

          • GreenLadyHere

            Alma98 – – – IT WILL!! :>)

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    We have watched enuff — -LA. LAW —NYC LAW — –CSI, FBI, Hawaii 5-0. etc. :>) LOL.

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    Keith Olbermann Complained To Current That Car Service Drivers ‘Smelled, Talked To Him’

    On the heels of Countdown host Keith Olbermann‘s firing from Current TV, the network and sources close to it have been quick to buttress their case for the dismissal with details of the temperamental star’s antics. One such source tells Mediaite, among other things, that Olbermann went through 8 different car services (he doesn’t drive), and complained to the network that some of the drivers “smelled,” and “talked to him,” the latter detail echoing a leak that once dogged then-Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain.

    Earlier, Howard Kurtz tweeted that he was “Hearing allegation that Olbermann switched car co’s and vendors because Current didn’t pay the bills,” which Olbermann retweeted, but our source says that is not true, that Kurtz has been contacted about the item, and that no one else at Current has had this issue.

    more here

    • Oh horror of horrors. They had the nerve to talk to him. Why they would want to is another matter.

      Sounds like the folks at Current are ready and willing to play hardball with Olbermann.

      • Miranda

        This will be the most epic bitch fight since Crystal and Alexis on Dynasty!

  • lamh35

    ok, I was busy getting ready for New Edition all day yesterday, so I wasn’t aware of a few things, but WHAT THE HELL happened between Toure’ and Piers Morgan????

  • crazycanuck

    WOW You lean some interesting things on Twitter. Fourteen year old AA invents surgical technique. Maybe he’ll meet the Pres

    • Miranda


  • This is why I could care less about the amount of Black journos on tv.

    Don Lemon just finished interviewing Angela Davis. They were talking about the Trayvon Martin case, and towards the end of the of the interview, Don said that “Zimmerman was, of course, human” and asked if she empathized with him and what family was going through. When she didn’t give him the answer he was looking for (so he could say that an ex-Black Panther empathized with Zimmerman) he cut her off and ended the interview.

    • Kennymack1971

      Hey Don, here is a novel idea. How about you focus on the fact that the guy you want folks to empathize with shot an unarmed boy and every story he and his friends have told has been debunked…. I swear some of these AA journalists are useless.

      • rikyrah

        I hope folks tweet that clown with this obvious fact.

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  • rikyrah

    Mitt Romney is a Scumbag
    Posted on 03/31/2012 at 5:15 pm by JM Ashby

    This is inexcusable.

    The Romney campaign suggested Friday that President Obama should release notes and transcripts from his meetings with world leaders to prove that he is not promising world leaders to change his position after November, in a statement to National Journal.

    No. I don’t care what the context of this demand is, or what it’s a response to. This is complete bullshit.

    You do not get to demand transcripts of the president’s conversations with the leaders of other nations. You do not get to decide the merits of their conversations. You cannot demand to know what the leaders of other nations are saying to the president.

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    • isonprize

      This VAWA reauthorization used to pass with “bi-partisan” support without so much as a peep. ReTHUGlicans are hateful, racist, misogynistic mean-spirited low-life weasels. And THAT’S an insult to weasels the world over.

      • GreenLadyHere

        LOL – – –isonprize. :>) – -Annnnd U don’t hafta attrnf any —

        ANALYTICAL — -PHILOSOPHICAL – –NON-SENSICAL –MEETING — – -2 CONSIDER the use of the term – — – RACIST!!

        IT IS —WHAT IT IS!!! — -WE KNOW!! :>)

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    PBOMB – – – -That BROCCOLI analogy – – –GETS on my nerves – – —

    The ACA is NECESSARY!! annnd PROPER – – – –

    – – –Freedom Broccoli – —

    – —In other news, it turns out the worst case of wasteful spending of the campaign season so far can be attributed to Ron Paul who has spent $496,461 per delegate.

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  • GreenLadyHere


    – – —NAACP Rally For Trayvon Martin in Sanford – – —

    – – – – —The NAACP’s Justice for Trayvon Martin rally is in full swing in Sanford, Florida. Reverends Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have spoken and various members of the NAACP have addressed the crowd. Sharpton has come under fire in recent days for calling for an “escalation in civil disobedience” and economic sanctions if George Zimmerman is not arrested.

    An estimated 3,000 – 5,000 are in attendance.

    See below for MSNBC live coverage:

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    – – – –Chicago’s Urban Prep Does it Again; Every Senior College Bound – – –

    – – – –*For the third consecutive year, every single senior at Urban Prep Academy, the only all-black, all-male charter high school in Chicago, has been accepted to college, school officials announced.

    The academy also said that 83 percent of its first graduating class in 2010 has re-enrolled in a second year of college, a rebuttal to critics of the school who have charged that students aren’t always ready for college, reports the Chicago Tribune.

    Critics have also suggested that Urban Prep squeezes out students with academic and discipline problems who other schools have to work with. Urban Prep officials acknowledge that this year’s senior class of 85 was almost twice that size when the boys started out as freshmen.

    But Urban Prep CEO Tim King, in a meeting Thursday with the Chicago Tribune’s editorial board, vigorously denied that troubled students are forced out or encouraged to leave.

    “We take the opposite view,” King said. “We devote time and energy to those students so that they understand they can do well and they can have success if they modify their behavior.
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  • GreenLadyHere


    – – –Obama urges Warren ‘Buffett rule’ passage — – –

    – — – –President Barack Obama repeated his call Saturday for Congress to act on the so-called Buffett rule — calling the measure “common sense,” not class warfare.

    The Buffett rule, named after billionaire investor Warren Buffett, was first floated by Obama late last year after a New York Times op-ed by the Omaha businessman encouraged Congress to raise taxes on the wealthy.

    – — –SKIP – – – –

    – — THIS – –Obama and the White House have been aggressively pushing a plan that would tax investment income at a much higher rate— with a high-profile mention in the State of the Union and shout-outs as a stump line on the campaign trail.

    PRAYING 4 – U —-MR. PRESIDENT!! :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB – – – -Ohhh PUH-LEEZE!! – – — A FAUX-pology — – –

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    – – – – –Illinois Rep. Joe Walsh has walked back his comments dismissing Tammy Duckworth’s military service, telling Chicago Magazine, “I meant something other than how it came out.”

    When presented with the Iraq war veteran’s biography, Walsh responded, “What else has she done? Female, wounded veteran . . . ehh.”

    Walsh phoned the magazine to clarify.

    “I often catch myself when I’m talking. I meant something other than how it came out.”

    Because I never served,” Walsh explained, “I have an unbelievable amount of awe and respect for everybody who wore the uniform.” But he reiterated that Duckworth was “chosen by Axelrod, Emanuel [and he added Dick Durbin], all Washington insiders…. This is a district that was drawn by Democrats in D.C. to try to elect Tammy Duckworth.”

    That explanation hasn’t stopped the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee for attempting to capitalize on outrage over the mark among their donors ahead of the first quarter fundraising deadline.

    On Saturday, DCCC chairman Steve Israel shot an email on behalf of Duckworth, referencing Walsh’s comments to POLITICO.


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