October 18, 2017

Saturday Open Thread: African Americans in MotorSports

Eating, Shopping, Football__________Good Times, Good Times!

Alrighty, we end our series on African Americans in Motorsports featuring Willy T. Ribbs (that is an awesome name) and Antron Brown!

Born in 1955 in San Jose, CA, Willy T. Ribbs is a living legend. Following his graduation from high school in 1975, Ribbs moved to Europe to compete in the Formula Ford Series. He won the Dunlop Championship in his first year of competition, then returned to the United States.

In his nearly 25 years of professional autoracing, Willy T. Ribbs has acheived many firsts as the winningest African American driver in history:       

  • The first African American to qualify and compete in the Indianapolis 500
  • Winner of the Formula Ford Dunlop Championship in Europe
  • Recipient of two “Driver of the Year” titles while driving for such racing icons as Dan Gurney, Jack Roush and Derek Walker
  • The first African American to compete in NASCAR’s Winston Cup series
  • First African American to compete in CART/Indy Car Championship in partnership withentertainer, Bill Cosby
  • The first and only African American to test for Formula 1 Grand Prix team in Estroil, Portugal

In May 2006, a newspaper column by Jason Whitlock quoted Ribbs detailing his criticism of NASCAR and his lauding of the Indianapolis 500. Ribbs created controversy by referring to NASCAR as Al-Qaida, “neckcar” and WWE.

In May 2011, Ribbs announced he had formed Willy T. Ribbs Racing to campaign former  NASCAR driver Chase Austin in the Firestone Indy Lights’ Freedom 100 at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, which would coincide with Ribbs’ 20th anniversary of breaking the color barrier at Indy.

Did you know in the Disney Channel cartoon The Proud Family, Penny Proud and her friends attend “Willy T. Ribbs Middle School,” where the mascot is the “Racer.”

Antron Brown

Fuel Driver Antron Brown recently became the first black racecar driver to win a major auto racing title. The 33 year-old is now the NHRA Top Fuel Champion. Brown took the win with injured hands, after his dragster’s engine had caught fire during the earlier race on Sunday. He used his bandaged hands to make driving history. Brown won against seven-time champion Tony Shumacher, who was busy being blocked on the track by another driver, which made way for Brown’s big win.

Antron Brown grew up at the drag strip, so it’s only fitting he developed into a championship-caliber drag racer. The Chesterfield, N.J. native was raised in the quarter mile racing hot bed of the Garden State and attend races with his family at historic Atco and Englishtown, N.J. and Reading, Pa.

Brown, 33, first operated a motorcycle at four-years-old shortly after learning how to ride a bicycle with training wheels. The 16-time NHRA winner first competed at 12-years-old in an 80-cc class in amateur youth motocross. His first competitive action on the drag strip came during his senior year in high school aboard a Suzuki GSXR 1100 that Brown routinely steered at runs at 9.20 seconds at nearly 160 mph.

It was during college in 1997 that his dream of being a professional drag racer became a reality. While at his college dorm, he fielded a phone call from star NFL cornerback Troy Vincent, who asked if Brown was capable of riding a Pro Stock Motorcycle. Less than a year later, Team 23 Racing was a reality as Brown teamed with famed rider Dave Schultz, who mentored the animated rookie racer. In 10 seasons on his Suzuki, Brown amassed 16 PSM victories in 33 final rounds, 11 No. 1 qualifying awards, and twice finished second in the points standings (2001 and ’06).

After a decade as one of the premier riders in the Pro Stock Motorcycle category, Brown inked a deal with David Powers Motorsports to drive the Matco Tools dragster in 2008. Brown made a seamless transition to the Top Fuel class, earning the pole in his first career Top Fuel race at the 2008 Winternationals at historic Pomona, Calif. with a blast of 4.495-seconds. He won in just his fourth Top Fuel start by edging two-time series champion Larry Dixon in the final round at Houston Raceway Park becoming the first driver in NHRA history to win races in both Top Fuel and Pro Stock Motorcycle. The popular driver earned two wins in five final round appearances, along with claiming three No. 1 qualifying awards during the 2008 NHRA season en route to finishing fifth in the NHRA Countdown to 1 standings.

In 14 seasons as a professional racer, Brown has 31 wins in 63 final rounds, 29 poles and 394 round wins. He is the only driver in NHRA history to have won races and led the standings in both Top Fuel and Pro Stock Motorcycle.

  • GreenLadyHere
    • edp4bho

      Good morning GLH and POU. Just lurking, per usual on a Saturday. Back to figuring my finances for the new year. Be blessed.

      • Miranda

        Good morning all! My finances are shot thru 2015 based on my overindulgence between ebay and Costco! Lol

      • GreenLadyHere

        Good Saturday MornTin’ edp4bho. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

        – –FINANCES??- — YA MEAN- — the $$$ that I don’t have??- – -LOL


        Good 2 C U edp4bho♥. :>)- – -B blessed. :>)

    • Worldwatcher7

      Good morning GLH; such a pleasure to wake up to your positive energy.

      • GreenLadyHere

        GOOD SATURDAY MORNTIN’- -Worldwatcher77. ***BIG HUG** :>)

        ***blushin”****- – –Awww- – -THAN U 4 your kind words. :>)

        – -My PLEASURE. :>)- — -B BLESSED 2-DAY. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥- — -THIS is unintended- – -BUT — -a GOOD MORNIN’- -“GLOAT”- —presented itself- – -LOL- –

    – – —Cartoons of the Day- GOP Soul Searching– –

    – – –Thank U- -Paddy.– – LOL

  • rikyrah

    Good Morning, Everyone:)

  • GreenLadyHere

    GOOD MORNTIN’ POU FAM♥ [miranda/PBOMB]- – -***BIG HUG*** :>)

    Woo! Hoo!- – -WAYTA end a GR8 SERIES- -2 FIRSTS!!!– —

    – –☻Willy T. Ribbs has acheived many firsts as the winningest African American driver in history:

    The first African American to qualify and compete in the Indianapolis 500– — – -Annnd MORE :>)

    – -☻Fuel Driver Antron Brown recently became the first black racecar driver to win a major auto racing title. The 33 year-old is now the NHRA Top Fuel Champion. – —

    – — -Sooooo PROUD of THEM. :>)

    Annnd THANK U the info on the – -PROUD FAMILY – —LOVED THAT SHOW-

    – —-The Proud Family -Teacher’s Pet – —

    – —ALWAYS a – – -GOOD LESSON. :>)

    Thank U 4 this KNOWLEDGE annnd INSPIRATION.- — -B BLESSED. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥- – —LOL- — Afta ALL da EVIL/VILE DIRT that the RETHUCKERS did— Floatin’ the FALSE NOTION that – -“Mr. Harry”- – owes an
    “apology”-4 “CALLIN’ “EM OUT- –is — BEYOND TWISTED!!- –

    BUT LOOK- —HAH!- –

    – — Reid faces task of mending fences with GOP after campaign attacks– – –

    – — –Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) infuriated Republicans during the campaign with his harsh partisan attacks and now faces the delicate task of mending his relationship with the GOP.

    – – – -SNIP annnd SKIP- —

    But sources who know the Democratic leader, a former amateur boxer, say it’s a classic case of Reid being Reid. He punches hard during the campaign but is willing to pivot to constructive bipartisan relationships after Election Day, just as fighter is willing to embrace his opponent after the final bell.
    — – –SNIP — –

    THIS TRUTH- — -> A senior Democratic aide, however, said it would be foolish for Republicans to contemplate retaliation.

    “Reid has outflanked and outsmarted Republicans again and again – they simply can’t figure out how to beat him. But at the end of the day, he is and has always been a dealmaker,” the aide said. “Republicans would be wise to stop playing Lucy with the football, give up on trying to beat him, and instead seek to work with him to get the best deal possible.”

    Good ending!! :>) – –

    • gc

      he’s hot

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY gc. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

        – —***fist bump**- — – In his own way. :>)- –

        HAH!- — -THEY canin’t – –CALL HIM OFF- – -like this!! — LOL

        – — There’s NO SHAME- – -in HIS GAME!!- –LOL

        Good 2 C U gc. :>)

    • majii

      Senator Reid may look meek and mild, but the man has a big hammer he hides inside his jacket and isn’t afraid to use it. I was so glad to see Sen. Reid take on the GOPers. It was long overdue, imo.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY majii. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

        —-LOL — -***fist bump*** SPEAK TRUTH!!- — :>)

        What I find CURIOUS —is that the HATAS who called 4 MR. PRESIDENT- – -2 B an “ABM” — -R NOT – –

        —-addressin’/commendin’- — Mr. Harry for bein’– an “AWM”. –Hmmm. . .

        Sooo- — -May we conclude that ifff he BEHAVED that way-

        THEY would CRITICIZE him??- — IMHO- — – YES!!- —

        HAPPY— -that he can- — DECIMATE ’em with – -CALM annnnd COOLNESS!- — -HAH!

        Good 2 C U majii. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥- – –YES. — 2-DAY is — –“SMALL BUSINESS DAY” —

    THIS is a GR8 way 2 HONOR- –“OUR BIZNESSES”- — :>)- –

    – —Small Business Saturday: Try these African-American small businesses– – –

    – — You’ve eaten your turkey. You’ve lined up at large retailers to snag deals on big-ticket items. Or perhaps you relished in Black Friday at home, clicking away online from the comfort of your computer chair. But the chances to save during Thanksgiving weekend are not over. Small Business Saturday is here — as is your chance to support black companies as this savings day builds its reputation.

    Most people are familiar with Cyber Monday, which is coming up soon for eager online bargain hunters. But, the public is still warming up to Small Business Saturday. Tucked between two well-established savings frenzies, its appeal focuses on the more intimate nature of personal enterprises.
    – – – SNIP – — –

    Lawrence Watkins, a frequent contributor to theGrio, is also the co-founder of Ujamaa Deals, a daily deals web destination that focuses on black-owned entities; thus, he has his ear to the streets regarding the best of black small business offerings. View his recommendations below for unique products and services that have that personal touch missing from large retailers, if you want to support both Small Business Saturday and African-American firms.

    THIS- — >According to Watkins, promoting black small businesses can ultimately give African-Americans the capital necessary to address our challenges.

    – – – –Support Your Local Businesses on “Small Business Saturday”– –

    – — – You’ve heard of Black Friday. And Cyber Monday. But did you know that this Saturday is Small Business Saturday? We’re encouraging everyone to visit a small business to do some holiday shopping this Saturday.

    As President Obama said in a message out to all Small Business Saturday supporters:

    – — – – -THANK U – — MR. PRESIDENT.♥- —

  • GN

    I see from my twitter timeline that Melissa Harris Perry is at it again with some bs re: President Obama. While she’s clearly not in Tavis Smiley or Cornel West’s league re: hating, sometimes I wonder why people bother watching her. What exactly does her show offer? Positive depictions of African Americans, including our President? Inspiration? Motivation? Or the same tired slanderous crap which the professional left is so expert at rehashing as “accountability” etc., which is full of double standards and special obligations for black people? Does she build up, or tear down in hopes that she’ll “force” the POTUS into something?

    My family leans solid left, and what I found during Thanksgiving is that the person who watches MSNBC, Bill Maher, etc. was the most misinformed regarding President Obama’s re-election prospects. Aside from Rev Al, IMO MSNBC is not worth watching and has low informational value.

    • gc

      My father watches CNN because he likes Blitzer (not his commentary, but his calm demeanor “unlike that Matthews guy who spits”) But my father says he automatically dismisses 50% of what Lupine or any other “journalist” says because “they don’t know shit.”
      I hope you had a lovely day, gn.

      • GN

        Wise dad! I had a great day and hope you did as well.

    • crazycanuck

      LOL, just coming to comment on this after reading my timeline. Utter rubbish. Now I’m off to clear my mind of such garbage.

      • GN

        Srsly; I can’t be bothered with pompous “progressives” who are extremely generous with the self-praise yet deride PBO and Obamabots. The people who are the least tolerant of critique and criticism are self-enamored “progressives,” many of whom are not that well informed and don’t bother to follow the conclusions of their ideas to their logical ends. They take disproportionate credit for things and have huge difficulties participating in any coalition in which they don’t have complete control over the agenda. I wish more people would just ignore them and stop consuming their media products.

        • Worldwatcher7

          You speak the truth. You also sound like a person who has tried working with the purity left brigade in the past. I know that tune well.

    • Ebogan63

      Erryone in my TL is telling both MHP and that cartoon liberal Chris Hayes to have a seat with they bullshit.

      • GN

        I just read the most irritating story in which Hayes has claimed to now see the light re: HCR after seeing the ugly sausage-making process which produced the 13th amendment as depicted in the Lincoln film. For how many years have Obots been pointing out that the nature of progress is incremental and that purity and progress are two different things? Only to be pompously lectured by the clueless? Let me go to brunch as there’s no need to even entertain this stuff anymore. Not with TwoTermz safely back in the WH! 🙂

        • Worldwatcher7

          Oh so Chris Hayes and his ilk couldn’t understand that governing involves compromise until they saw a movie about it? I’ve heard of visual learners, but come on now…

          Maybe someone can produce a PL version of Sesame Street.

          • GN
          • majii

            I cannot stand Chris Hayes. I peeped his dishonesty and smarmy attitude out shortly after he began appearing on MSNBC, so I do not watch when he is on the network. I don’t have a lot of patience with people who refuse to tell the truth. There have been many times that CH has refused to tell the truth about the president’s policies, especially the ACA. He always seems to see his role as playing Devils Advocate. It made me wonder whether he was just playing stupid or whether his bosses at MSNBC had told him not to say too many good things about the president and the ACA. Whatever may be the case, he’s persona non grata in my house.

          • GreenLadyHere

            LOL- – -majii.- – – –He always seems to see his role as playing Devils Advocate. It made me wonder whether he was just playing stupid – — LOL

            ***fist bump*** on the DA!- –He loves 2 “argue” from that “point of view”. -humph!

        • Tafr

          WTH! He should be embarrassed to admit such utter bullshit. Perry Hayes and the rest of them are about to find out just like Tavis and them. No one is up for their shit this second term, no one is playing with them.

          Chris Hayes is not all that smart. You see the snark is a way to hide behind the fact that he is an idiot. That white hipster know it all attitude is quickly going out of style.

    • conlakappa

      My mother watches her show and it is another thing we cannot talk about. I think they have finally seen the light about Corn Flakes but I still see vestiges of “shhh, there’s someone black on tv.”

      • GN

        Can’t fault your mom for being proud at all but the emos, like the far right, are about to double down on their bs I think; I don’t think that MHP is enough of a pragmatist to avoid joining in. Glad your mom sees through Dr. “brotha” “prophet” West though lol.

        • conlakappa

          I guess. I am thinking there are enough black people on TV to not give oxygen to some for the sake of it. In a way, that is what the likes of the suits at MSNBC are hoping for/banking on. That my folks get their news from emoprog land frightens me no less than if they were getting it from Faux. As you have been saying on the regular, not much difference between the two and it all leads to talking smack about the President based on sketchy arguments and suppositions.

    • GreenLadyHere


      – — -***fist bump*** – -:>)

      3 of your points: – —

      – — -☻(1) Or the same tired slanderous crap which the professional left is so expert at rehashing as “accountability” etc., which is full of double standards and special obligations for black people?(2) Does she build up, or tear down in hopes that she’ll “force” the POTUS into something?>

      HAH!— –(1) – -TRUTH!!- – —Annnnd -(2)-She has the SELF SAME- -“rachul mentality”! — -She thinks that she can – – -GIVE MR. PRESIDENT – – -USEFUL ADVISE!- – -DOUBLE HAH!! – –

      -☻Aside from Rev Al, IMO MSNBC is not worth watching and has low informational value.

      — -YAAA- — -REV. AL!! :>) – – —

      Good 2 C U GN. :>)

      • GN

        Exactly right; both MHP and Chris Hayes are too much like Maddow for my tastes.

        • GreenLadyHere

          GN—–***fist bump****- – -2 MUCH of that- – –

          – – –She’s sooooo SMART mantra.***- —

          Like – LYIN’RYAN was THOUGHT 2 B- -LOL

          We C where that – —GOT HIM!!- — HAH!

    • I heard her little letter to Cobbler about PBO pardoning more turkeys than humans and had to turn her off when she said PBO has shown more mercy to poultry than he has to humans. *major eye roll*

      If she wants to criticize PBO on his pardoning record, let’s have that discussion. But the bullshit hyperbole has got to stop.

      • GN

        Well said. There’s too much shock-jocking.

      • Alexander2

        I think Bitter Boyce Watkins made similar comments last Thanksgiving. They don’t care about pardons. If this was a major issue, wouldn’t they be talking about it during the rest of the year? It’s all about taking a cheap shot at the president.

        • Exactly! It’s more like a once-a-year ritual for them.

        • GreenLadyHere

          HEEY ALEXANDER2– — **BIG HUG** :>)

          – —***fist bump***- — It’s all about taking a cheap shot at the president.

          – 4 ALL da – EVIL/VILE “SMACK” that he/they’ve been talkin’- – -ALL YEAR- –THEY shoulda been- – –feastin’ on – – –THIS!!– —

          – – — BUT- – –THIS will do!!- — -SAAAA-LAP!!- — :>)- –

          – -GOOD 2 C U- — ALEXANDER2. :>)- —

        • rikyrah

          gimme a list of 20 people that they think deserve pardons and explain why.

          all I’ve been asking.

      • Ebogan63

        Unless they have specific individuals in mind that PBO should consider pardoning, she needs to quit with the bullshit

      • conlakappa

        Do they even cite examples or is it just “aren’t I cute” soundbytes?

    • trose1

      When did presidential pardons become a top priority for anyone?

      • majii

        Since the “blah” man got in the WH, trose. None of these folks had anything to say about GWB and who he pardoned. They think they’re holding PBO “accountable,” but what they’re really doing is trying to make him be the person they want him to be. Thank goodness PBO doesn’t pay attention to their nonsense. It’s just like faux progressives to bring up some BS at a totally inappropriate time.

      • conlakappa

        Same as all other such questions: the moment the man presiding while residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., N.W., had acknowledged melanine. Fascinating the number of litmus tests for him, innit?

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY trose1♥.—-***BIG HUG*** :>)

        – — -Since there is a LULL in the number of TOPICS on which 2- — CRITICIZE – that BLAH- – –MR. PRESIDENT.—

        YA KNOW da “emogs/PLs/Assorted HATAS” — –gotta move from- – HATA ITEM — 2 – – -HATA ITEM in order 2 keep- – -EXCREMENT goin’!!- —- – -WE KNOW!!- —

        DISGUSTIN’– –MH-P- –needsta- – “FREE HER MIND!”- – —

        She’s 2 willin’ 2 – — CALL THAT BUS- — -so that she can “throw MR. PRESIDENT”- – -under it – — -in front of her YT :friends.!- – – –

        SHE AIN’T SLICK!! — — -WE KNOW!!!- – -humph!

        Good 2 C U- – -trose. :>)

    • majii

      The proof is in the pudding, GN, and the fact is that none of the talkers did sh*t to get the president re-elected. They can’t give him advice about what he should/shouldn’t do because they don’t have the burdens that he has to deal with. This is why when Tweety began giving his advice to the president the other day, I wasted no time changing the channel. I have no use for fair weather “friends” of the president. It’s easy to sit outside of the boxing ring and shout advice to the person who’s in the ring fighting a very real opponent because you’re not taking any punches. All of these folks need to sit down, STFU, and let PBO do his job. He didn’t need them before he became president, and he doesn’t need them now.

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥- — — My **brow is furrowed*** as I read this.- – –

    – – —Two Views of the Election – —

    – — Kimberly Strassel and Rahm Emanuel have very different messages. Ms. Strassel, writing in the Wall Street Journal, warns conservatives that the president’s superior turnout operation is not responsible for his victory and that the Republicans cannot win future elections simply by matching the Democrats’ technical expertise. To win, the GOP must compete for Hispanic votes, and that means going in to Latino communities and talking to them.

    Mayor Emanuel agrees that the turnout machine didn’t win the election for the Democrats but he doesn’t agree that the victory was preordained by demography and the Republicans’ weakness with minority voters. Emanuel emphasizes that the Republicans can improve their turnout efforts and they can change their strategies to attract more Latinos. To continue their successes, the Democrats needs to realize that they won because of the superiority of their ideas.
    – — –SNIP —
    Nor can the Republicans kid themselves that acquiescing to a comprehensive immigration reform that creates millions of new Latino voters will redound to their political advantage. Even if they went from losing 71% of the Latino vote to losing 51%, more Latino voters would still mean more votes for the Democrats so long as the GOP doesn’t evolve on social and domestic policy.- —

    – — –The Republicans should not agree to comprehensive immigration reform because they think it will benefit them politically. They should agree to it because it is the humane thing to do. Their brand of conservatism has an expiration date no matter what they do.

    – -RE-THUCKERS:- – -To reduce this ELECTION 2 a SINGLE AGENDA ITEM- -“MELANIN”—is DELUSIONAL annnd simplistic.- –BUT KEEP on that PATHWAY- — — WE can STAND –the WINS- -Movin’ FORWARD- –>

    • majii

      Anything the GOPers will do will be self-serving, and if they think that we can’t see what they’re doing, they’re more stupid that I think they are. These are the tools who thought Herman Cain, Susanne Martinez, Marco Rubio, and Allen West would cause blacks and other POC to run into the arms of the GOP. Nope, ain’t gonna happen. POC know when they’re not genuinely liked, and we know the GOPers have no love for us and d*mned if I’ll ever let myself be used by them for any reason.

  • Eric, Donald Jr. and Ivanka Trump advised The Donald to cool it on Obama, insider says

    Donald Trump’s hatred of Barack Obama allegedly led his three eldest kids to do an Obama-vention before the election. Eric, Donald Jr. and Ivanka discussed telling their dad to calm down, then decided collectively to approach Trump (below) and ask him to turn it down a notch with the presidential bashing.

    “The three of them met and went to see their dad in his Fifth Ave. office. They showed a lot of respect, but told him he’s worked too long and too hard to build up the reputation he has. They understand completely he’s always been outspoken and that he likes attention, but this is too much,” says a source who knew about the mid-October meeting.

    Trump’s rep denies any such meeting ever took place.

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/kids-urge-trump-cool-obama-article-1.1207182#ixzz2DA0WZsUb


    Ivanka has her own jewelry and footwear business, and it’s probably starting to suffer thanks to her father’s racism.

    • conlakappa

      It has for me–I have been on the lookout for holiday/inauguration shoes and have seen some from her collection and thought, “nope.”

  • GreenLadyHere


    – – –Hector ‘Macho’ Camacho Dead– —

    – – —One of boxing’s big names from ’80s and ’90s is gone: Doctors in Puerto Rico says Hector “Macho Camacho died after being taken off life support this morning, reports the AP. Camacho, 50, got shot in the face four days ago while sitting in a car in his hometown of Bayamon.- – -SNIP- –

    – — – RIHIP —-annnd thanks 4 your contributions 2 the BOXING INDUSTRY. —


    • morphus


      • GreenLadyHere

        GOOD MORNTIN’ morphus. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

        – – —AMEN.- —:>) – – –
        Ya pray annnd wish sooo hard 4 people 2 – –“make that change”.- – —

        Good 2 C U morphus. :>)

        • morphus

          BIG HUG right back at U!

          • GreenLadyHere

            morphus- – – ***smiles** @ U. :>)

  • So, Chris Hayes needed to watch Lincoln to realize what PragObots have been saying for the last 3 years: that the benefits of Obamacare are more important than the negotiation process. I can’t.

    “Hayes began by observing that Kushner’s film Lincoln, which focuses on the pragmatic machinations of the Great Emancipator, changed his own progressive purist view of the deal-making that went into passage of the Affordable Care Act. “I’m a supporter of the Affordable Care Act, “he said, “and I think the outcome is really going to increase the net life joy of human beings in the country.”

    On the other hand, Hayes added, “there was something about the way in which that process unfolded that ultimately tainted my judgment of the final product,” but that “watching the story of how the 13th Amendment was passed, in which there are essentially just a bunch of hacks bribing congressmen, made me think, ‘Well, I guess you can sort of separate means from ends.”

    Hayes’ attitude about the Affordable Care Act was shared by many liberals, myself included, but in hindsight, the front-loading of negotiations with health insurers and pharmaceutical companies may have been what allowed health care reform to get the wind in its sails necessary to push it, by inches, to passage. Leaving things like the Public Option and drug price negotiations on the table might well have acted like chocks on the act’s landing gear, preventing it from ever getting rolling.

    The allegorical link to Lincoln‘s portrayal of abolition is solid and crystal clear, but toward the end, Hayes amusingly felt the need to disclaim his segment by saying “Let me just also say, for the record, that the 13th amendment is a much, much, much bigger deal than the Affordable Care Act. Lest anyone think i’m equating the two.””

    MORE: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-hayes-ending-slavery-was-a-much-much-much-bigger-deal-than-obamacare/

    • GN

      The way that they assisted the far right in demonizing ObamaCares will never be forgotten by me. They co-sign so many of the right’s themes and ridiculous declarations, they just flavor it up to appeal to lefty sensibilities. No liberal worth her or his salt had any damn business trashing a piece of legislation which expands Medicaid in historic proportions.

      • THIS.

        Hayes’ come to Jesus moment illustrates how selfish, self-centered and out-of-touch with reality they really are.

        • conlakappa

          Yep. No idea is valid unless he can wrap his hipster-doofus mind around it.

      • majii

        Exactly, GN, and this is why when they start their BS, they ought to hear from us. I’m sick of them. They were worse enemies to PBO and us than anyone in the GOP.

    • morphus

      One wonders if ANY of these “pursit” ever participated in ANY group decision-making process (high school [running for office], PTA, etc.) Its as if, one day they woke up at age 30 something and had never compromised on ANYTHING a single day in their lives.

    • Ebogan63

      “..but in hindsight, the front-loading of negotiations with health insurers and pharmaceutical companies may have been what allowed health care reform to get the wind in its sails necessary to push it, by inches, to passage. Leaving things like the Public Option and drug price negotiations on the table might well have acted like chocks on the act’s landing gear, preventing it from ever getting rolling.”

      Shit like this is why I find too many liberals clueless as to how things ACTUALLY work, not how they IMAGINE it working. You need to have stakeholders on board to get shit passed. Trust, I don’t like insurance companies and Big Pharma, but how the fuck was demonizing them gonna work out? Negotiation is NOT endorsing their positions, but these mofos would rather have PBO putting on a fucking show and getting nothing rather than getting shit done.

      • isonprize

        THIS is why I like this site. PRAGMATIC!!!!

    • majii

      My message to CH and the other dumbasses: Sit down, STFU, and let the adults handle things. If they’re too stupid to realize what a landmark achievement the ACA is because they don’t like/understand the process by which it was created, they have no business being giving national platforms from which to expound on issues they don’t understand. That CH has one should be a crime.

      • isonprize

        . That Chris Hayes has one [a national platforms from which to expound on issues] should be a crime.

        THIS! High crime, indeed.

    • GreenLadyHere

      Sepia- — -LOL- – –

      – –2 THIS:- –So, Chris Hayes needed to watch Lincoln to realize what PragObots have been saying for the last 3 years: that the benefits of Obamacare are more important than the negotiation process
      . I can’t.

      Guess dey ‘ON’T let him — -GO OUT- -much. LOL

  • Civil Rights Activist Lawrence Guyot Succumbs at 73
    by Avis Thomas-Lester
    AFRO Executive Editor

    WASHINGTON, D.C. –Lawrence Guyot, the scion of the Civil Rights Movement who later turned his efforts to statehood for the District of Columbia died Nov. 23. He was 73.

    Guyot died at home after a long battle with diabetes and heart disease. Friends who had spoken with him in recent weeks said he was elated at having seen the reelection of President Obama, of whom he was an ardent supporter. He told the AFRO he voted early because he wanted to make sure his vote was counted as his health failed.

    Guyot was born in Pass Christian, Miss., on July 17, 1939. He grew up in atmosphere where Blacks had more freedom than they did in other areas of Mississippi, however after enrolling in Tougaloo College at age 17, he discovered the depth of the discrimination that other Blacks suffered in terms of voting and exercising their full citizenship rights. He was one of the early volunteers for the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee.

    MORE: http://afro.com/sections/news/national/story.htm?storyid=76782

    • GreenLadyHere

      Good MornTin’ Sepia. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

      – – -THIS- —-Friends who had spoken with him in recent weeks said he was elated at having seen the reelection of President Obama, of whom he was an ardent supporter. He told the AFRO he voted early because he wanted to make sure his vote was counted as his health failed.– — -HOW TENDER.

      – – – – -***tears*** annnd ***smiles***- —

      — —RIHEP- – -annnnd THANK U 4 your LIFETIME WORK- — -IN – -“DA STRUGGLE”.- –)

  • morphus


  • GreenLadyHere

    BREAKING:- – -Emily Squires, ‘Sesame Street’ Director, Dies at 71

    – — –Emily Squires, ‘Sesame Street’ Director, Dies at 71– –

    – – —Emily Squires, a six-time Daytime Emmy Award winner for directing episodes of Sesame Street, died Nov. 21 at Mount Sinai Hospital in New York of unknown causes. She was 71.

    Squires penned and directed episodes of another PBS series, Between the Lions, and earned a Primetime Emmy nomination for co-producing the 1994 children’s special All-Star 25th Birthday: Stars and Street Forever!

    Squires directed more than two dozen episodes of Sesame Street, the first one in 1982. The bulk of her work on the kids show came in the years 2005 through 2007.

    She also wrote for the soap operas Search for Tomorrow (for which she won a WGA Guild Award), Guiding Light, The Secret Storm and As the World Turns.


    CONDOLENCES 2- — -FAMILY/FRIENDS/FANS.- — -**raises hand***

    • Worldwatcher7

      Between the Lions was a wonderful show; an inspired, creative effort to teach reading. RIP Ms. Squires.

  • Alexander2

    (Mellisa Harris Perry and the emoprogs should learn about the pardon process before they slander the president)

    “To determine who receives clemency, Obama, like his predecessors, relies on recommendations from the Office of the Pardon Attorney, the arm of the Justice Department that reviews applications. The office — led by Pardon Attorney Ronald Rodgers, a former military judge and federal prosecutor — rarely dispenses endorsements, however.

    Several administration officials who agreed to discuss pardons on the condition of anonymity said the president pardoned nearly every person recommended by Rodgers for approval in his first two years in office, but that such applicants were few and far between. . .

    “I don’t think he has been given the same opportunity, by this process, to look at these petitioners as his predecessors were,” said Mark Osler, a law professor at St. Thomas University in Minneapolis who launched the country’s first law clinic for commutations.

    “Moving the office outside of the Department of Justice would restore the pardon function to its traditional status as an exercise of pure presidential authority,” wrote Rosenzweig, who served as a policy adviser in the Department of Homeland Security during the Bush administration.”


    • crazycanuck

      Why would these idiots look into the process of pardoning. That requires work, They don’t want to do anything that involves work.

      • jds09

        Can’t they get an intern to do some basic fact checking? Yikes.

        • Ebogan63

          OK! Producers, Hello???

          • crazycanuck

            I guess they like looking like fools

          • Ebogan63

            Hustlers gonna hustle.

          • conlakappa

            And attention seekers will seek attention. It is all a competition to become the story.

    • GreenLadyHere


      NOW:- — –

      – — . ..(they) . should learn about the pardon process before they slander the president)

      – — “THAT- –[in da WORDS of my parents]- — would B 2 MUCH like – – -doin’ RIGHT!!”— LOL

      THEY would RATHER- – – -DO THIS- —– -than- — ENGAGE BRAIN- — B 4 SPEAKIN’.- – -geesh!!!!

      WE KNOW!! ***shakin’ my head***

      • Alexander2

        Hey GreenLadyHere:

        From what I’m reading, people who care about pardons are focused on changing the process, which is broken. They are solution-oriented. Melissa Harris Perry and ’em can have a stadium full of seats.

        • GreenLadyHere

          ALEXANDER2- – — -***BIG fist bump**** :>)

          – – –RE:- –. . .changing the process. . .– –

          3 Pieces of EVIDENCE 4 the NEED:- — – –

          – -☻ Obama last granted pardons in November 2011, weeks before ProPublica and the Post published <b.a series of stories that found that between 2001 and 2008, white applicants were nearly four times as likely to be pardoned as minorities. African American applicants fared the worst, almost never receiving the pardons office's recommendation. The Justice Department has commissioned an independent study to examine ProPublica’s findings.[CASE CLOSED 4 EQUITY]

          — -☻Given the potential for political blowback, presidents often do not grant pardons while running for re-election. Presidents Obama, Clinton and the first President Bush did not pardon anyone during their campaigns for second terms.– — — [THEY DON’T DO IT ANYHOW (at certain times.)]

          – — ☻Since the ProPublica series, there have been growing calls to reform the pardons process from civil rights groups, legal experts and current and former public officials.– — -[GOOD SUPPORT.]

          There needsta B a – – -Move- – -FORWARD- — >—:>)

          Good ARTICLE! :>)–Thank U. :>)-

  • lamh36

    alright, alright, alright!!! today is Bayou Classic game day! would love to watch the game, but I’m at work & I can’t seem to get any online stream of the game. anyone know of a good site? I tried to google it, but I’m coming up blank.

    anyway, are we live chatting Soul Train Awards (they are coming on Sunday, right??)?

  • lamh36

    Lord, watching some Christmas special on NBC right now and Al Jarreau is doing his thing…lol. ya’ll know how Al J do…loll

    • crazycanuck

      I’m watching Giget goes to Rome lmao. I’m on a gidget craze these days

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥- — -OK!!- – -as long as the EVIDENCE is presented- – -I’ll USE IT- —- — -2 –GLOAT!!– – – – -LOL

    – —How Clear Channel Helped Keep the Romney Campaign Alive While Being Gutted by Bain – –

    – – – –An account of events or a story, whether true or fictitious, is a narrative, and in business and politics maintaining a narrative’s consistency is as important as the story itself. In politics, any variation of a candidate’s narrative gives their opponent the opportunity to suggest transience on issues that has deleterious effects on a candidate’s argument of why they are the best choice to serve. In the recent election, Willard Romney portrayed himself as an experienced businessman with a record of creating jobs, and conversely, President Obama created a narrative portraying Willard as having a record of eliminating jobs or outsourcing them to China. Romney’s company, Bain Capital, became an albatross to his candidacy because the more the public learned of Bain’s business model of leveraging companies with debt, raiding its assets, and eliminating jobs, the more voters saw Willard as a job-killer who earned enormous wealth at the expense of Americans’ jobs. To some extent, Romney was able to assuage the damage from his company’s tactics because,- as luck would have it, he had a Bain entity, Clear Channel communications, assist his propaganda campaign that his business acumen made him the best choice to help the economy and create jobs.HAH!-

    – — – – – – — -SNIP- —

    – – – -It is ironic that the company that used its substantial influence as a media giant to promote Romney’s candidacy through their conservative radio hosts and concealing the job losses is struggling to repay its debt to Romney’s company Bain Capital.

    –SPEAKIN’- – – -of- — – “TANGLED WEAVES. . .annnd —– -KARMA!!!!”- HAH!

    • conlakappa

      Stockholm Syndrome.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY conlakappa. ***BIG HUG** :>)

        SADLY- – – -***fist bump***- —“cause the workers dii-ent have a choice.- — geesh. – —

        Good 2 C U conlakappa. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere


    – —Christmas shopping presidential style: Barack Obama and his daughters arrive at bookshop to pick up festive family gifts– —

    – – – – –President Barack Obama made a quick trip to a Virginia bookstore for some Christmas shopping.

    The president took his daughters, Sasha and Malia, to One More Page Books in Arlington, Va., on Saturday afternoon.

    The White House says Obama was promoting an effort called ‘small business Saturday’ to encourage shoppers to patronize mom-and-pop businesses after Thanksgiving.


  • TyrenM

    Hey POU. Battle of the Bands!

    • lamh36

      Worst thing about having to watch on TV is that they seem to cut off the halftime show earlier and earlier every year. I’ve heard from some people that State Farm has pulled out of the sponsorship and that they are trying to find new sponsorship. I kinda wish some Black owned company or Black-led company would pick up the sponsorship. It is the ONLY nationally televised HBCU game on regular television not counting local tv.

  • crazycanuck

    Egyptians are back in the streets protesting. Morsi has given himself unprecedented powers. Will they ever learn? He’ll find himself going the way of Mubarek if he doesn’t reign himself in. It’s great he brokered a truce between the Palestinians and Israel, but he needs to check himself pronto.

    • That’s the nutty part. He’s doing the exact same thing the guy he’s replacing got thrown out for. Talk about blind spot.

    • 7thangel

      it’s tricky as some of those powers were necessary to oust the remaining holdovers like the judge that (with tongue firmly in cheek) amazingly found quite a few of Mubarek’s, people not guilty

    • 7thangel

      it’s tricky as some of those powers were necessary to oust the remaining holdovers like the judge that (with tongue firmly in cheek) amazingly found quite a few of Mubarek’s, people not guilty

    • GreenLadyHere

      HEEY crazycanuck.—**BIG HUG** :>)

      – – THIS:—-Morsi has given himself unprecedented powers.

      Annnnd- – – -THIS is PRECISELY “WHYCOME”- – — THINGS REMAIN the SAME- -in MANY of the countries.!!- – –

      The LEADERS WANT- – –POWER- — -NOT 4 da PEOPLE!- — –

      – – – –The full quote from The Life of Reason (1905-1906) by George Santayana is

      Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

      Winston Churchill is also credited with the variation:
      “Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”

      – —Annnnd – — -SO! HE!- – – – -REPEATS!!- – -SAD!!- – -Especially 4 da PEOPLE.

      Good 2 C U crazycanuck. :>)

  • lamh36

    Southern University spelled out OBAMA at halftime. Would be cool if POTUS was actually watching the game…lol

    • Miranda

      That was sweeeet!

    • GreenLadyHere

      HEEY lamh36. –***BIG HUG**- – :>)

      THANKS 4 da – — -PLAY-by-PLAY!- – — :>) BEYOND- – -COOL!- -:>)

      Good 2 C U. lamh36.- – -Continuin’ PRAYERS 4 the FAMILY. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥- — -THIS WILL B GR8- —Ifff PASSED :>)- – – –

    – – –House bill directs TSA to give unclaimed clothes to homeless vets– –

    – —-Instead of letting the airlines profit again on their customers? What a smart and sensible idea. Oh look, a woman introduced it!

    The House will likely consider a bill next week that would give homeless veterans unclaimed clothing recovered at U.S. airports.

    The Clothe a Homeless Hero Act would direct the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) to transfer all unclaimed clothing recovered at airports to local veterans organizations or other local charitable organizations for distribution to homeless or needy veterans and their families.

    Rep. Kathy Hochul (D-N.Y.) introduced H.R. 6328this summer.

    Del. Madeleine Bordallo (D-Guam) is co-sponsoring the legislation.

    – – POWER 2- –DEM- -WOMEN!– — Woo! Hoo!- – –

    PRAYIN’. . . . . Annnd – -Watchin’. . . . .

  • Anyone wants a good laugh this Saturday afternoon, check out this genius piece from Larry “Whitey Tape” Johnson (Sorry for the link but the comedy is too good)


    I knew I missed an F-You on election night.

    • “…On the eve of tomorrow’s election, the trends are clear. Obama has shrunk his support among Catholics and evangelicals. Obama has alienated many black supporters by his embrace of homosexual marriage. Obama has terrified many senior citizens by actually taking money from Medicare (and he failed to make this charge stick to Romney/Ryan). The middle class is not feeling better or more prosperous. They are paying more for gas and groceries and still having trouble finding a decent paying job and secure housing. And among the youth? Their unemployment numbers are in the twenties. They ain’t feeling the love and certainly are not inspired by the former Mr. Hope-and-Change…..”

      Wasn’t this jackass suppose to be a liberal? Why is he spewing Fox news talking points? How the hell was Booman friends with this piece of shit?

      • Miranda

        Booman was friends with this clown?

          • GreenLadyHere

            HEEY LTMidnight. ***BIG HUG** :>) —-WAIT- –WHA’???- —

            —–My old friend, Larry Johnson, knows about manipulating elections from his training with the Central Intelligence Agency. He doesn’t want Obama to win the nomination for whatever reason, and he’s in full propaganda mode to do everything he can to frighten the superdelegates. He claims to have a shocking tape of Michelle Obama ranting in some anti-white diatribe. He promises to produce this tape tomorrow at 9am.

            Ooooo-Kaaay. NOW I remember THIS- -PIECE of KRAP!!

            I don’t remember this article- — -BUT- —my old friend- —for whatever reason. . .—-DAAAAANG!!!

            ANYTHING NEGATIVE shoulda – – -CAUSED him 2 DROP dat — -alleged “friendship.”– —GEEEESH!!

            OK!—- MY–***side-eye” –is sooo on!!- —
            My eyes R—“WHITE”!!- —LOL–
            Thanks 4 this. -:>)

            Good 2 C U- -LTMidnight. :>)- —

          • GreenLadyHere

            Thank U- again. BUT- — it took 2 much “energy” 2 determine that the LIE existed.
            Iff I had a “friend”- — -I woulda EXPECTED that I would have been “let in on the HOAX.”- –IT WAS- –BEYOND EVIL!!- —
            Sooo- –I’m STILL holdin’- –my —“side-EYE”.- -:>)

      • GOVCHRIS1988

        I thought that was the dude from Little Green Footballs that was Booman’s friend?

    • GOVCHRIS1988

      Oh my GOD!!!!!!!! I am looking through his election night thread where those dumbass loons were going from thinking Romney had a chance in hell to win California’s 55 Electoral Votes to RAGING BITCHFIT!!!! I love it. Feeling great cathartic aplomb.

      • You have the link? My Girlfriend is out of town visiting her folks and I need a good laugh.

        • GOVCHRIS1988

          Here’s one of them. You ought to read the sob story from this woman in the first comment. Lord, some white people don’t know how to make a dollar outta 15 cents.


          • majii

            Pathetic. The GOPers who always talk about how they don’t need no stinking gubmint are blaming their own problems on PBO and the gubmint. The tools they vote into office are their own worst enemies and they’re too dumb to know it.

      • Miranda

        Omg i found it! ROFLMAO

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥- – – -“SUNDAY TALKIN’ SHOWS” :>)- – –

    – – —Sunday Talk Shows (11/25/12): Israel-Hamas ceasefire, Benghazi and Susan Rice, Meet the Press, Face the Nation– – —

    —–Guests on the Sunday political talk shows include Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) who will face off on the Benghazi attack and the role of UN Ambassador Susan Rice and discuss the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas. Candy Crowley talks to a group of long-standing senators and congressmen who decided not to seek re-election in 2012 and authors of books about presidents discuss all things presidential on Face the Nation.

    Full line-up below. What catches your eye?

    •NBC’s Meet the Press Ken Burns, documentary filmmaker; Carly Fiorina, vice chair of the National Republican Senatorial Committee; Al Sharpton, MSNBC; David Brooks, New York Times; Andrea Mitchell, NBC; Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI); Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-NY); Rep. Peter King (R-NY); David Cote, Honeywell

    •CBS’ Face the Nation: Bob Woodward, Washington Post; Jon Meacham, Random House; Evan Thomas, Princeton University; Doris Kearns Goodwin, author

    •ABC’s This Week: Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC); Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL); Ben Affleck, actor; Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA); Matthew Dowd, political consultant; Joe Klein, Time; Ruth Marcus, Washington Post; Peggy Noonan, Washington Post; David Sanger, New York Times

    – — -SNIP – — —

    •CNN’s State of the Union with Candy Crowley: Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ); Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX); Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT); Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA)

    – —I LEFT OUT- – – -FAUX-noise. humph. Look at da –ENEMY line up!- -UH!

    – – -Yaaaa- —-REV. AL!!!– – -:>)

    • jds09

      Where’s McCain? lol

    • conlakappa

      What will Affleck talk about, wig wearing?

      • GreenLadyHere

        LOL — -conlakappa — -Seeee. . . . .LOL- – –

        • conlakappa

          You know? It’s like what is the point, jockeying for inauguration tickets? Telling what he learned while doing research on that hostage crisis movie?

  • Miranda

    JR Ewing died? One of the best tv villians of all time.

    • crazycanuck

      Yup he was the best. He will be missed.

  • rikyrah

    Casual Observation

    by BooMan
    Sat Nov 24th, 2012 at 11:49:16 AM EST

    I think Sen. Patty Murray’s time has come. She’ll be taking over the gavel of the Budget Committee from Kent Conrad in January, and she just presided over the reelection of every Democratic incumbent as chairwoman of the DSCC. She’ll also have a bunch of new women to work with who she recruited and helped win election: Mazie Hirono, Heidi Heitkamp, Elizabeth Warren, and Tammy Baldwin. A lot of people are indebted to Sen. Murray and she is carrying a lot of water. Her counterpart in the House, the zombie-eyed granny starver Paul Ryan, is going to have his hands full


  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥- – –LOL- – — DEY in a QUANDRY- — – annnnnd – –

    – – –I’m-GLOATIN’– – – –

    – — GOP faces quandary in Senate primaries– –

    – — A growing push for more establishment involvement in Republican primaries may put the party in a bind as the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) grapples with helping the best possible candidates get elected in primaries in 2014.

    It’s a catch-22 for the party: Stay out, and risk untested candidates like Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) or Richard Mourdock of Indiana prevailing in the primaries and losing winnable races; or engage early and risk the kind of grassroots backlash that divided the party in many of the 2010 Senate races.

    There is a consensus among a number of state Republican Party officials and grassroots groups that backlash is all but assured if the GOP establishment gets involved to the same extent as 2010.
    – – — SNIP- —

    Georgia Republican Party Executive Director Brian Keahl said the state party has a practice of staying out of primaries, to avoid complicating efforts in the general election.

    “If you wind up in a primary fight and the person you didn’t back wins, now you’ve got a candidate who might have a slightly adversarial relationship with you, and that makes the relationship between the candidate and the party potentially strained,” he said.


    – — -THIS COMMENT:- — emceemc ugottabkiddingme •
    Nothing is positive in this for the GOP. In the last 2 years the Tea Party lost the GOP seats with Akin, Murdock, O’Donnell, and whoever in Nevada.

    I wish the GOP all the trouble in the world, but would advise them to be be realistic about turning out their voters in the primaries. They flatter themselves that as superior citizens they are likely voters. In reality, only the GOP crack-pots are turning out in the primaries and they are electing crack-pots.

    • majii

      The GOP leadership is too afraid to move to keep the crazies from running for office. They know they’re crackpots but they’re afraid of the tea partiers. This is what caused so many of these crackpots to win seats in 2010, and this is why there is so much gridlock in the House. The tea partiers got Mourdock and Akin elected in the primary but gave no thought to how nutty they are or that it would be difficult for them to win their general elections. The tea partiers have a plan, though. They plan to double down on the crazy because they think they lost elections this year because the GOP candidates weren’t “conservative” enough. Lord, help us.

      • GreenLadyHere

        majii——THIS:- — – The tea partiers got Mourdock and Akin elected in the primary but gave no thought to how nutty they are or that it would be difficult for them to win their general elections.

        – – – -‘CAUSE they were – -Sooooo —BUSY collectin’- –HATAS- –2 tryta make “THAT BLAH ONE” – –a 1 TERM president!!— -HAH!

        – – –NO WEAPON– – -FORMED AGAINST HIM- — -PROSPERED!!- — IT!- – – DI-ENT!- – -WORK!!– –HAH!

  • Aquagranny911

    hola pou…my greeting is lower case because this Granny is TIRED!

    I have kissed, hugged and sent most of the familia to home. I still have a few left who will spend this night here & head home tomorrow, including the Marines who are now singing on my patio and “Kissing the Gunny” (their version of swilling Captain Morgan Rum) My nephew got leave & brought three of his buddies with him. Sweet guys all of them. They are staying on to do some more of the clean up tomorrow. God bless the Marines! (Don’t worry I will not let them stay up all night drinking so they are too hung over to work!)

    I hope all of you had as wonderful a Thanksgiving as I did. Our weather was perfect and so many good people came to share with us our bounty. When we had a our circle of gratitude here, so many could share that they got jobs or healthcare, or other good things that had come into their lives. All of us gave thanks for the re-election of President Obama. One of my granddaughters was so “grateful I lost my first tooth & here it is!” I think the Kiddo got about $10 under her pillow that night because everyone wanted to play “tooth Fairy.”

    I both survived & thrived with those I love so much. Next year my Sis get’s to host. The good thing about hosting is that so many others pitch in to do the work.

    BTW, the barbecued goat was delicious and the “trifling cousin” actually did some work & didn’t walk away with half the food!

    Now, I’m off to “Kiss the Gunny” myself but just a little bit.

    • majii

      I’m jealous, AG. You had barbecued goat. It’s been years since I’ve had bg. BG is the bomb!!!

      • crazycanuck

        don’t let PITA here you say that.

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥— – — –WHEW LAWD. – -Neva saw an ELECTION go on- – – -annnnd ON- –annnd – – -ON. . .

    — –☻HCAN ‏@HCAN
    RT @NicholsUprising: Obama vote now 64,428,975 — 4.2M lead over Romney. Obama could hit 65M w/5M lead. Widening mandate #hcr #fiscalcliff
    Retweeted by Jeff Gauvin
    – – –

    – – –Ummm- —Guess THIS is a- – –GLOAT– -LOL- —

    HOW- — -DID THEY- — -Soooo- — — DELUDE – – THEMSELVES??- -LOL

    — — DEY EVIL!!- – — — Annnd- – —KARMA- -got da – –“W”!!– -HAH!

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥- – –Soooo- — -I’m still gonna post the article.- — -BUT- — THIS COMMENT is –ON POINT!- —:>)– –

    – —majii
    Good write up, Jason! Boehner is also bringing the Affordable care Act into the fiscal cliff negotiations and claiming that it’s because it raises our debt level. It doesn’t. The CBO has already run the numbers on the ACA and declared that it does not add to the debt and it saves money. The only reasons I can think of for Boehner doing this are that he wants to use the ACA as a distraction for avoiding having to deal with raising taxes on our richest citizens, and he’s trying to placate the tea partiers in his caucus and assure them that the ACA will be destroyed in one way or another. Evidently, he hasn’t seen the latest poll that shows that opposition to the ACA is lower than it’s been since the law was created in 2010, but polls have never been a force that has driven GOPer politicians because they have a unique ability to deny reality. I think the ACA will become another political landmine for the GOPers who want to repeal/destroy it, just as Medicare and Social Security have become, and this knowledge gives me unending pleasure.

    – — -THIS- — – because they have a unique ability to deny reality.

    Annnnd 2 PAY pollsters- — -***cough- — -RAS annnd perhaps GALLUP- -cough***- – –2 MANIPULATE POLLS!- – —

    NOW- – -2 da “article”.- – -:>) – –

  • rikyrah

    November 24, 2012

    The E-Mail of Doom

    Here’s the kind of email from Dad that you don’t want to get. A British father, retired from the Royal Navy, sent this to his three (sort of) adult children after what must have been a very dismal evening together:

    Dear All Three

    With last evening’s crop of whinges and tidings of more rotten news for which you seem to treat your mother like a cess-pit, I feel it is time to come off my perch.

    It is obvious that none of you has the faintest notion of the bitter disappointment each of you has in your own way dished out to us. We are seeing the miserable death throes of the fourth of your collective marriages at the same time we see the advent of a fifth…

    Fulfilling careers based on your educations would have helped — but as yet none of you is what I would confidently term properly self-supporting. Which of you, with or without a spouse, can support your families, finance your home and provide a pension for your old age? Each of you is well able to earn a comfortable living and provide for your children, yet each of you has contrived to avoid even moderate achievement. Far from your children being able to rely on your provision, they are faced with needing to survive their introduction to life with you as parents…

    He concludes, after noting that the kids have made a series of poor “copulation driven” decisions at key turning points in their lives, with this plea:

    I can now tell you that I for one, and I sense Mum feels the same, have had enough of being forced to live through the never-ending bad dream of our children’s underachievement and domestic ineptitudes. I want to hear no more from any of you until, if you feel inclined, you have a success or an achievement or a REALISTIC plan for the support and happiness of your children to tell me about. I don’t want to see your mother burdened any more with your miserable woes — it’s not as if any of the advice she strives to give you has ever been listened to with good grace — far less acted upon. So I ask you to spare her further unhappiness. If you think I have been unfair in what I have said, by all means try to persuade me to change my mind. But you won’t do it by simply whingeing and saying you don’t like it. You’ll have to come up with meaty reasons to demolish my points and build a case for yourself. If that isn’t possible, or you simply can’t be bothered, then I rest my case.

    I am bitterly, bitterly disappointed.



    • isonprize


  • rikyrah

    Can’t find a job? Move overseas.

    By Emily Matchar,

    Published: November 23

    Emily Matchar, author of “Homeward Bound: The New Cult of Domesticity,” is a freelance writer in Hong Kong.

    After applying for 279 jobs over two years, my husband finally got the offer he’d been hoping for: a well-paid position teaching philosophy at a respected university. We should have been thrilled. There was just one little thing.

    The job was in Hong Kong.

    “I feel like we’re being deported from our own country,” my husband said.

    “It’ll be an adventure,” I replied, trying to sound game.

    “I wasn’t looking for an adventure,” he said. “I was just looking for a job.”

    We didn’t know we would be part of a wave of educated young Americans heading overseas in search of better employment opportunities. According to State Department estimates, 6.3 million Americans are studying or working abroad, the highest number ever recorded. What’s more, the percentage of Americans ages 25 to 34 who are planning to move overseas has quintupled in two years, from less than 1 percent to 5.1 percent. Among 18- to 24-year-olds, 40 percent are interested in moving abroad, up from 12 percent in 2007.

    In the past, Americans often took foreign jobs for the adventure or because their career field demanded overseas work. Today, these young people are leaving because they can’t find jobs in the United States. They’re leaving because the jobs they do find often don’t offer benefits such as health insurance. They’re leaving because the gloomy atmosphere of the American economy makes it hard to break through with a new innovative idea or business model. “This is a huge movement,” says Bob Adams, president and chief executive of America Wave, an organization that studies overseas relocation.

    Stories like ours are everywhere.

    When Liz Jackson, 31, earned her PhD in educational policy from the University of Illinois, she hoped to find a job as an assistant professor. She applied for about 50 jobs in 2010. But U.S. colleges and universities were shrinking; layoffs and hiring freezes were rampant. Jackson’s only nibbles of interest came from the Middle East and Asia.

    She ended up taking a position as an administrator at a university in Abu Dhabi, in the United Arab Emirates. There, in addition to a tax-free salary of $45,000, she was given a three-bedroom, three-bathroom apartment to live in rent-free, plane tickets for her and her husband to visit the United States every year, 44 annual paid vacation days, an $8,000 moving allowance, and a promise to help find a job for her husband, who’s a physicist. Plus, there was great health insurance, with no co-pays, dirt-cheap drugs and free dental coverage. This was a major draw for many of Jackson’s friends, almost all of whom are fellow Americans.

    “We can pay off our student loans in the next six years,” Jackson says. Together, she and her husband owe about $200,000. “That would be impossible in the United States.”


  • rikyrah

    How fighting income inequality became Obama’s driving force

    By Zachary A. Goldfarb,

    Published: November 23

    When Barack Obama published his autobiography, “Dreams From My Father,” about racial identity in 1995, he talked with his neighborhood newspaper in Illinois, the Hyde Park Citizen, about the economic disparities he had seen while exploring the world as a child and young adult.

    “My travels made me sensitive to the plight of those without power and the issues of class and inequalities as it relates to wealth and power,” he said in that interview. “Anytime you have been overseas in these so-called third world countries, one thing you see is a vast disparity of wealth of those who are part of the power structure and those outside of it.”

    That sensitivity to inequality has stuck with Obama throughout his rise in politics, from Chicago’s South Side all the way to the White House. He remains largely a pragmatist in his approach to governing. But beneath his tactical maneuvering lies a consistent and unifying principle: to use the powers of his office to shrink the growing gap between the wealthiest Americans and everyone else.


  • rikyrah

    Today Jonah Goldberg Explains It All

    By Charles P. Pierce

    at 3:42PM

    For a little light reading, on a light posting day, and in an effort to walk off yesterday’s feast, I wandered down along the docks of Blogistan until I came upon an interesting troupe of sidewalk buskers among whom was a noted public intellectual, and he was engaged in an elaborate performance piece entitled, “Giving Republicans Negro Lessons.” I stopped and watched the show for a while.

    If the GOP wants to win more black votes, it will need to get a lot more “racist.” The scare quotes are necessary because I don’t think the Republican Party is racist now (and, historically, the GOP has a lot less to answer for than the Democratic Party does). But that hasn’t stopped a lot of people from slandering Republicans as racist for one reason or another.

    One, I think that first sentence is what public intellectuals who don’t owe their jobs to their vulpine mommies would call a “paradox.” Two, thank you, on behalf of your primary audience, for explaining the function of “scare quotes.” Many of them likely spent several seconds spraying Windex on their monitor screens trying to get the tiny spots off. (Also, historically, not since about 1962, it doesn’t.) One reason: birtherism. Another reason: John Sununu.

    Blah, blah, blah. Susan Rice. Baseless claims of racism. Benghazi. Colin Powell — whom Republicans despise — and Condoleeza Rice, beeyotches! Scoreboard! You gonna finish that?

    No, really, do go on.

    Read more: Jonah Godberg Republicans Black Vote – Today Jonah Goldberg Explains It All – Esquire http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/jonah-goldberg-republicans-black-vote-112312#ixzz2DCU5Axli

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥- —- -THIS is the ARTICLE that went with the COMMENT[majii :>)]- — —INTRODUCTION. :>)– —

    – —-3 Lies Republicans Tell to Defend Not Raising Taxes on the Wealthy – —

    – — The political consensus may be shifting on raising taxes on the wealthy, but many Republicans keep sticking to these falsehoods in order to oppose a tax hike for the rich.

    1). Raising taxes on the wealthy will hurt economic growth and the job creators.
    In October, Speaker of the House John Boehner wrote, “As a former small businessman, my experience has taught me that raising taxes on families and small businesses will only hurt job creation. We need to be encouraging the private-sector to grow; raising their taxes will only discourage job creation, innovation, and entrepreneurship.”
    This is a myth spun more out of belief, than history and fact.- – —
    -SNIP- –

    2). Income over $250,000 isn’t rich/Obama’s tax hike will hurt the middle class.This is a more interesting discussion, but Republicans base their premise on belief instead of actual numbers. According to the Census Bureau, the median income in the US is $50, 054. The Tax Policy Center ran the numbers and found that, “About 6.07 million Americans earned above $200,000 in 2011. They make up the top 4.2 percent of taxpayers. – –

    3). Cutting taxes for the rich benefits everyone.– LOL!!
    Republicans have been using the Laffer Curve to argue for trickle down economics for decades, but with with the repeated failure of trickle down, conservatives have been forced to stop using the term while still advocating the principles behind trickle down economics.

    – — — DEY keep tellin the SAME — – LIES- – -OVA annd OVA AGAIN- — hopin’ that they will —-MORPH- — into truth. – -HAH!

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥- — -YEAH!- —– TELL ‘EM!! —LOL- — –

    – —- Christopher Hahn’s Recent Discussions- -[Rejecting President Obama]– –

    – — —Those of you who know anything about me know I love a good debate. I love intelligent conversation about politics and the issues facing the nation. Today I am drawing a line in the sand that shouldn’t even be necessary. If you insist on questioning the legitimacy of President Obama I will no longer respond to you. Enough is enough. Go away, you have no place in the national conversation.

    This includes referring to him as follows: “Your President,” “The Democrats’ President” or using the conservatives’ weird illiterate slur calling him the “Democrat Party President” and any other attempt to say he’s not legitimately our president. Let me give a special shoutout to the “president” that I‘ve been getting a lot on Facebook and Twitter. That one has to stop for a variety of reasons. I understand that conservatives hate science and math, but do they also oppose grammar?

    Get over it conservatives. He was elected by a majority of the popular vote twice. The last president to accomplish that was Ronald Reagan and he did that even after he raised taxes twice in his first term. For the record, Obama has never raised taxes on anyone. President Obama won nine of 10 competitive contests. His party picked up seats in the U.S. Senate and the House of Representatives. He won, he’s the president. If you want to argue with me about Obamacare, Benghazi, or sequester, then have at it. But save your quotes for appropriate purposes. “I’ve had it!”

    – – — – ***BIG- TIME- — SAAAAAA-LAP!!*** HAH!

  • TresL

    As mentioned down thread, I just visited Noquarters for the first time thinking I would get a few laughs at the opposition’s expense. However, I left appalled and uneasy at the level of denial, hate and cognitive dissonance consuming the commenters at that site. I guess I just don’t have a strong stomach when it comes to right-wing bile.

  • GreenLadyHere


    – – –CONTINUE 2 PRAY 4:- – –MR. PRESIDENT♥/VP JOE♥; – the ECONOMY/da PEOPLE; – -the STORM VICTIMS/1st RESPONDERS; – -the Middle East;- – -EACH OTHER♥- – —

    – – —TIS THE SEASON ♥– – –

    – – — — – UNTIL THE MORNING LIGHT ♥ :>) — –