October 23, 2017

Saturday Open Thread: Black Nurses Who Changed the Course of History

Mary Jane Seacole (1805-1881), Jamaican born British Crimean War nurse, portrait. Also known as Mother Seacole.     Date: C.1850s

Mary Jane Seacole (1805-1881), Jamaican born British Crimean War nurse, portrait. Also known as Mother Seacole. Date: C.1850s

Mary Jane Seacole (23 November 1805 – 14 May 1881), née Grant, was a Jamaican-born woman of Scottish and Creole descent who set up a “British Hotel” behind the lines during the Crimean War, which she described as “a mess-table and comfortable quarters for sick and convalescent officers,” and provided succour for wounded servicemen on the battlefield. She was posthumously awarded the Jamaican Order of Merit in 1991. In 2004 she was voted the greatest black Briton.

She acquired knowledge of herbal medicine in the Caribbean. When the Crimean War broke out, she applied to the War Office to assist but was refused. She traveled independently and set up her hotel and assisted battlefield wounded. She became extremely popular among service personnel who raised money for her when she faced destitution after the war.

After her death, she was forgotten for almost a century, but today is celebrated as a woman who successfully combated racial prejudice. Her autobiography, Wonderful Adventures of Mrs. Seacole in Many Lands (1857), is one of the earliest autobiographies of a mixed-race woman, although some aspects of its accuracy have been questioned. It has been claimed that Seacole’s achievements have been exaggerated for political reasons and a plan to erect a statue of her at St Thomas’ Hospital, London, describing her as a “pioneer nurse”, has generated controversy. Further controversy broke out in the United Kingdom late in 2012 over reports of a proposal to remove her from the country’s National Curriculum.[

With a reputation that rivals that of Florence Nightingale, Seacole certainly made history. Not only did she cope with prejudice and discrimination, but she was also a selfless nurse, dedicated to providing strong medical services to wounded soldiers.

After the outbreak of the Crimean War in 1853, Seacole traveled overseas to the British War Office, determined to serve as an army nurse. Then when she was refused, she funded her own trip to Crimea, started a hotel for injured officers (built out of salvaged materials), and braved enemy fire to nurse the wounded on the battlefield. Affectionately, she was known as “Mother Seacole.” And she is still remembered in Britain, where many buildings and organizations are named in her honor.

Seacole’s recognition has provoked a reaction. It has been argued that she has been promoted at the expense of Florence Nightingale, and in an attempt to promote multiculturalism. Professor Lynn McDonald has written that “…support for Seacole has been used to attack Nightingale’s reputation as a pioneer in public health and nursing.”There is opposition to the proposed siting of a statue of Mary Seacole at St Thomas’ Hospital on the grounds that she had no connection with this institution, whereas Florence Nightingale did. Dr Sean Lang has stated that she “does not qualify as a mainstream figure in the history of nursing”.

While well-known at the end of her life, Seacole rapidly faded from public memory. Her work in Crimea was overshadowed by Florence Nightingale’s for many years. However, in recent years there has been a resurgence of interest in her and efforts to properly acknowledge her achievements. Seacole has become a symbol of racial attitudes and social injustices in Britain during that period. She was quoted as an example of “hidden” black history in Salman Rushdie’s The Satanic Verses, like Olaudah Equiano: “See, here is Mary Seacole, who did as much in the Crimea as another magic-lamping lady, but, being dark, could scarce be seen for the flame of Florence’s candle.”

  • crazycanuck

    Good Morning POU. Have a great day. It’s going to be at least 40 degrees here today. A scorcher. Keep cool everyone.

    • Mornin’ CC and POU!

      I wish it was 40 degrees here. I like cool weather!

      • goldenstar

        Good morning, Sepia!

        CC’s 40 is our 104. Ugh!

        • crazycanuck

          Yup, I think i will probably have to put the air on today.

        • OH! I thought she meant fahrenheit! I forget they use Celsius in Canada! lol

    • goldenstar

      Good morning, cc. Hot here, too.

    • Miranda

      It feels like the devil’s sauna here in Atlanta.

    • rikyrah

      Afternoon, cc.

      Have no idea what 40 degree Celsius translates to in Fahrenheit…will take your word that it means hot.

  • goldenstar

    Good morning, POU.

    This week’s theme has been enlightening. Now, I see that the Florence Nightingale narrative may be another situation of drowning out the contextual stories of all the folks.

  • malletgirl02

    That you for this series, but the treatment in history that Mary Seacole has been receiving for example the building of her statue being blocked has gotten my blood boiling.

    • Miranda

      Mine too. Makes u wonder bout the accuracy of Nightingale’s biography in an attempt to downplay Mary Seacole.

      • TresL

        It’s further proof that our accomplishments are ignored when similar or lesser accomplishments of someone white are lauded. It’s a very immature, petty and warped vision of the world that only allows them to see themselves in a positive light and not see or value the accomplishments of POC. To do so, as BoomerGal stated above, is a two-fer they can’t abide: a simultaneous shattering of the myths of black inferiority and white superiority.

        Bernie, HRC, Bill and Elizabeth Warren have all been praised for talking about issues PBO has not only been talking about for years, even before becoming POTUS, but has actively worked on since taking office. They’ve done little to nothing but are more valued by some white liberals than PBO.

        • BoomerGal

          Yes!! Love that last paragraph!

    • BoomerGal

      Any intellectual accomplishment of ours contradicts the narrative that we are lazy, thugs, drug dealers/users, welfare queens, criminals and at the top of the bell curve (low IQ).

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  • GreenLadyHere

    GOOD SATURDAY MORNTIN’ PBOMB♥/POU FAM♥- – -**BIG HUG** :>)– NURSE Mary Jane Seacole WAS The GREATEST NURSE — -With NO NEED 4 a COMPARISON 2 Florence Nightingale!

    – – – -☺http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1348118528l/1157325.jpg

    THANK U PBOMB♥ — – -4 SUCH An ENLIGHTENING SERIES. :>)-Thank the NURSES 4 YOUR INVALUABLE SERVICE — -Which has gone UNRECOGNIZED – -SADLY.

    – – – — ☻NURSE MARY JANE SEACOLE – – -A VIDEO BIOGRAPHY of HONOR♥– -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrim4r-LbY

    AGAIN, THIS annnd other NURSES should B a part of the NURSING CURRICULUM, IMHO. :>)

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    – –B BLESSED♥ – – – SECURE♥- – – -:>)

  • BoomerGal

    Good A.M. Everyone! Stay cool today; sunny and hot as hell! I dread going out but will delay it as long as possible. : )

    • GreenLadyHere

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      • BoomerGal

        Morning, GLH! Thank you for the blessings! No one has heard from AG, yet?? That is so unlike her.

        • GreenLadyHere

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    • goldenstar

      Good morning, BoomerGal! Hot and humid here but went out for an early morning walk with friend’s doggies.

      • BoomerGal

        I bet those doggies were glad to get back inside! Water, water, water! Have a great day and stay cool. I’m not cooking today! Every man for himself! : )

        • goldenstar

          LOL!

      • GreenLadyHere

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        • goldenstar

          Good morning, GLH!

          • GreenLadyHere

            – -GOLDenstar – – – -**waves @ U♥*** :>)

    • rikyrah

      Afternoon, BoomerG

      • BoomerGal

        Hey, rik! Stay cool!

  • GreenLadyHere

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  • GreenLadyHere

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  • GreenLadyHere

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    – – – – -☺https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vZPUMC4Xy8

    – – –Weekly Address: A Comprehensive, Long-Term Deal with Iran – –

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  • GreenLadyHere

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  • GreenLadyHere

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  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥- – – –OPPOSING RALLIES in SOUTH CAROLINA— –
    —- ☺http://www.newsweek.com/kkk-and-black-panther-affiliate-hold-opposing-confederate-flag-rallies-354868
    — — KKK, Black Panther Groups to Hold Opposing Confederate Flag Rallies— –
    — —A Ku Klux Klan group and an affiliate of the Black Panther Party plan to hold separate, opposing Confederate flag rallies on Saturday at the South Carolina state house in Columbia, where a week ago the Honor Guard removed the controversial emblem in the wake of a deadly shooting.

    The Florida-based Black Educators for Justice reportedly applied for a protest permit 10 days after a North Carolina-based Klan group, called the Loyal White Knights, registered its pro-Confederate flag demonstration, according to The State.

    Neither group could immediately be reached for comment. A voice
    message recorded on the machine at the Loyal White Knights’ office in Pelham, North Carolina, confirmed the weekend event, saying the rally is meant for “standing up for our Confederate history and all the Southerners who fought and died against federal tyranny.”

    THERE IS MORE—-

    – – HATE – – – – -NOT – –HERITAGE!!- – –WE KNOW!– -hmph!

    – –Happy 2 C the – –BLACK PANTHERS♥– “INDA-STRUGGLE”♥—

  • GOVCHRIS1988
    • BoomerGal

      Let the feeding frenzy begin! Devouring each other!

      • GreenLadyHere

        LOL- – -BoomerGal – – – –YA MEAN- – –LIKE THIS??– –

        – — – – -http://orig04.deviantart.net/d19f/f/2011/103/f/a/fish_eat_fish_little_animation_by_jenmapau-d3dwp0a.gif

        – – —☺http://chromatism.net/current/images/fisheatfish2.gif

        — -BUT — —TRUMP- – – -is —DISGUSTING!!- –yUCK!!

        • BoomerGal

          Exactly! So much fun to watch!

          • GreenLadyHere

            LOL- – – –WE KNOW — -HUH?— – – -PHOOLS — – -geesh!

    • GreenLadyHere

      GOOD MornTin’ GOVCHRIS1988. :>)- – – – -**BIG HUG** :>)

      – – –CAIN’T TOLERATE EITHER — – – -BUT — – – -“DUMPY TRUMP” – – –SERVED- —WHERE????– –
      – – – -☺http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/celebrity/deferments-helped-trump-dodge-vietnam
      — — – Deferments Helped Trump Dodge Vietnam
      How the presidential aspirant avoided combat

      – – —THOUGHT — — so!!– – – -**SMH***

      Good 2 C U. :>) B BLESSED♥ :>)

      • BoomerGal

        5 times!!

        • conlakappa

          Same number as Darth!

          • BoomerGal

            Yep!

    • rikyrah

      that’s frigging hilarious!

  • GOVCHRIS1988
    • rikyrah

      LOL

  • crazycanuck

    ICE T ✔@FINALLEVEL
    I’m already up &Hyped about today and tomorrow. I’m not JUST performing..I wanna see EVERY group that hits the STAGE! pic.twitter.com/9X0wMc22zu

    • nellcote

      Wow! I hope a concert film comes out of this show!

  • crazycanuck

    OK, Air is on, was starting to feel sick and I have to go out tonight.

    • GreenLadyHere

      Good MornTin’ crazycanuck. :>) – –**BIG HUG** :>)

      — -☺ENJOY – – -your day. :>)- -http://www.lashaciendasgrill.com/images/LONG_ISLAND_TEA.gif

      Have FUN♥ – – :>) – -B BLESSED♥ :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

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    – — – ENJOY- – – -the – -SUBTLE – – -BEAUTY♥ :>)

    • crazycanuck

      WOW!

    • rikyrah

      that is simply stunning!

  • rikyrah

    Good Afternoon, Everyone 🙂

    Back from my swim and errands. Trying to stay cool on this sweltering day.

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥- – – – -Awww- – – –The OBAMA FAMILY- – – -In NYC♥
    – – – – [H/T NerdyWonka♥- — Thank U♥] :>)

    – – –☺https://twitter.com/NerdyWonka/status/622456987746308098

    – – —GOOD TIMES♥- – –ENJOYING FAMILY♥ :>)

    —ALL R LOVELY – – -:>)- – –

    • rikyrah

      didn’t say that it was a family reunion with POTUS’ sister!

      • GreenLadyHere

        Good Afternoon rikyrah. **BIG HUG** :>)

        – -Found that out L8. yesterday. :>)

        — –B BLESSED♥ :>)

  • aleth

    i love trump, don’t you POU? POPCORN

    • rikyrah

      he’s making me LMAO!

    • Miranda

      He’s the best. Entertainer of the Year contender for sure!

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥ – – – –RNC – –REACTS– – – -hmmm….

    – – — -https://twitter.com/stevebruskCNN/status/622470598430736384

    — -HOWEVA – – –Do THEY remember HOW they DID – – -MR. KERRY?? –

    –ETA: – – –During John Kerry’s candidacy in the 2004 U.S. presidential campaign, a political issue that gained widespread public attention was Kerry’s Vietnam war record. In television advertisements and a book called Unfit for Command, co-authored by John O’Neill and Jerome Corsi, the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (SBVT), a 527 group later known as the Swift Vets and POWs for Truth, questioned details of his military service record and circumstances relating to the award of his combat medals. Their campaign against Kerry’s presidential bid received widespread publicity,[1] but was later discredited and gave rise to the neologism “swiftboating”, to describe an unfair or untrue political attack.[2][3] Defenders of John Kerry’s service record, including nearly all of his former crewmates, have stated that SBVT’s allegations are false.

    HE SERVED – – -HONORABLY!!

    Annnd RECENTLY- – -☺”John McCain On Iran Deal: John Kerry Is ‘Delusional'”. . .

    – – –Maybe- – -“KARMA” — -had a —WORD 2 SAY. . .

  • rikyrah

    This is how I feel….they are not upset with what Trump says IS WRONG. They are upset that he’s not saying it in Frank Luntz-approved language that the MSM can’t hide behind, and pretend that the GOP isn’t the GOP.

    ………………………….

    https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/621715378171998208

    • Miranda

      Every bit of this

  • rikyrah
  • rikyrah
  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥ – – – -Aaaahh – – –OUR BELOVED FIRST LADY – – -In L.A.–:>)

    – – – –☺http://cdn.la2015.psdops.com/dims4/default/ef28868/2147483647/thumbnail/630×362%3E/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fd8p4u9w98uuss.cloudfront.net%2Fcd%2F83%2F5c99077c46f4b0527585162af5ab%2Fresizes%2F1500%2Fflotus-with-la2015-athletes.jpg

    – – – —First Lady Michelle Obama greets Special Olympics …– -:>)

    — – –☺https://cbsla.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/la2015-discount-ticket-flier.jpg?w=420

    — –On July 25, the First Lady will represent America as Honorary Chair at the world’s … Michelle Obama’s attendance at the Opening Ceremony on July 25, 2015, …

    – – -LooKin’ FORWARD – – -> :>)

  • rikyrah

    this is such a healthy way of looking at it.

    https://twitter.com/crtconsu/status/622416807060729856

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥- —TURNABOUT- — -is – — WHA’ ??- –

    – – – -☺https://twitter.com/duracelqc/status/622481084446420992

    — -HOW does —THIS – –FEEL??–NOW!!

  • aleth

    POU, they noticing what we have been saying

    Dante Atkins ‏@DanteAtkins 33m33 minutes ago

    Bernie views most of this through economics but problem is, economic gains aren’t evenly distributed because of racism #NN15townhall

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥- —TWEETIN – – – -TRUTH – – –– – –

    – – –☺https://twitter.com/GarySegura/status/622471750282969088

    – –AXED – – –annnd — -ANSWERED!!- –
    — —HE – -WHITE!!- – -MsM- – -WHITE!!

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥ — – -TWEET – – – -Da Mighty – – – -TRUTH. . .

    – –[H/T Maria♥ – -Thank U♥] :>)

    — – – -☺https://twitter.com/MariaLiaCalvo/status/622469113470976000

    • conlakappa

      And Max Cleland. I guess none of these people gave the media lime-mesquite chicken or is regularly lobbed softball questions in his eleventy billion appearances on Sunday chat shows.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY conlakappa♥ – – -**BIG HUG** :>) – – -THANK U♥- – -:>)

        — – –I guess none of these people gave the media lime-mesquite chicken. . .

        LOL– — –Good 1. :>) —-Good 2 C U. :>) B BLESSED♥ :>)

    • rikyrah

      twitter truth

    • TresL

      …and Max Cleland who lost three limbs in Vietnam.

      • GreenLadyHere

        TresL. – – – -**BIG HUG** – — THANK U♥ :>)

        Good 2 C U. :>) B BLESSED♥ :>)

        • TresL

          Hi GLH!

          • GreenLadyHere

            HEEY TresL- – -**waves @ U♥*** :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥- – – -Wo! Hoo! – The WHITE – – -HOUSE – – — Will B —INDA- –HOUSE/”ON BROADWAY♥” – – –

    – – – –☺President Obama Expected to Attend Hamilton On Broadway Today- – –

    – – –☺https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wboCdgzLHg

    – – -LooKin’ FORWARD – – -> :>)