November 21, 2017

Saturday Open Thread: The Great Migration

Hope your weekend is a good one Obots!

We conclude our series on The Great Migration with how the new populations in the north changed political structures and its enduring legacy.

Their painful experience of disenfranchisement in the South, coupled with their belief in the power of the ballot, led many migrants to register to vote almost immediately after arriving in the North. Having received so little benefit from their tax dollars for so long, African Americans now sought political representation. This new electorate brought with them bitter memories of political exclusion. Some had witnessed firsthand the violence and intimidation used against would-be black voters; many others had been told of them. Most, if not all, of these negative events were perpetrated under the auspices of the Democratic Party. A laborer originally from Alabama told an investigator that he could never vote for a Democrat as long as he kept his memory.

Their loyalty to the Republicans, however, did little, at first, to advance the interests of black migrants. But Republicans were more likely to field strong black candidates in predominantly African-American districts. The migrants firmly believed that electing such candidates was the key to achieving power, even, as was often the case, if the candidates were selected by a white political machine.

Chicago was one of the first cities where African Americans attained a measure of political influence. A number of black politicians rose to prominence. Perhaps the most outstanding was Oscar DePriest, who became Chicago’s first black councilman in 1915. In 1928, in a defining moment in African America’s political history, DePriest became the first black elected to the United States House of Representatives in the twentieth century. In 1935 Arthur W. Mitchell, a white Democrat, defeated him. This election signaled the beginning of the seismic shift of blacks’ political allegiance from the party of Abraham Lincoln and emancipation to that of Franklin D. Roosevelt and the New Deal.

Black Nationalism, spurred in particular by Marcus Mosiah Garvey, became an important part ofthe sociopolitical landscape. Garvey had formed the Unitversal Negro Improvement Associatio n (UNIA) in his native Jamaica in 1914 and brought it to New York three years later. He drew his following largely from the lower end of the economic spectrum – people who believed that middle-class black leaders had no concern for the masses. A large part of his followers were Southern migrants. Besides advocating going back to Africa, Garvey and the UNIA promoted economic independence and racial pride, crucial issues to people who had faced contempt, violent racism, and socioeconomic dependence in the South, and were determined to improve their lot in the North.

Though they faced discrimination, exclusion, and violence, African-American migrants never stopped moving forward. In 1890, 63 percent of all black male laborers worked in agriculture. By 1930, only 42 percent did so. During that period, the number of African-American schoolteachers more than doubled, the number of black-owned businesses tripled, and the literacy rate soared from 39 to 85 percent.


Many newcomers discovered their entrepreneurial talents as storeowners, real-estate brokers, funeral directors, providers of various skilled services to their community and to the larger population. The large numbers of migrants resulted in the formation of new institutions. By the mid-1920s, there were over two hundred black hospitals and twenty-five nursing schools in the United States.

Under the banner of black self-help, several social service organizations were founded to aid migrants and, more generally, uplift the black community from the inside. Many northern churches also established recreation centers and welfare agencies to respond to the needs of their members.

A new spirit prevailed in the arts as well. Mamie Smith from Cincinnati did one of the first commercial recordings by a black artist. Her “Crazy Blues” sold two million copies and she earned nearly $100,000 in royalties. Her success ushered in an era of “race records” and recognition on the part of the recording industry that a significant market existed within the black community. Race records quickly became big business.


The 1920s saw the emergence of the New Negro Movement, later called the Harlem Renaissance. Writers, poets, painters, musicians, and sculptors took some of their inspiration from the lives and struggles of the newcomers to the North. But, as Langston Hughes wrote, “The ordinary Negroes hadn’t heard of the Negro Renaissance. And if they had, it hadn’t raised their wages any.” Nevertheless, the movement was a reflection of the racial consciousness and pride that people felt in the urban North, and it produced important works in all facets of the arts.

Many scholars have noted that African Americans seemed to leave the South without benefit of counsel by the black leadership. Although Booker T. Washington died in 1915 and did not see the mass exodus, it is clear from his pronouncements that he would have opposed it. He often said, “The Negro is at his best in the South” and would find there greater economic opportunity and a higher moral life. The New York Age warned skilled southern workmen “to think carefully” before migrating where skilled jobs were hard to get. Professor Kelly Miller, of Howard University, declared, “The Negro’s industrial opportunities lie in the black belts“.

Yet ultimately, leaving the South was not about economic opportunity or living a “higher moral life.” Most migrants paid dearly, in some coin or other, for their departure. The Great Migration was about African Americans starting over and making sacrifices for future generations. As W. E. B. Du Bois concluded, the journey north represented not the end of a struggle but only its beginning.

The story of Tony Chandler, one of six million African Americans who
migrated from the south during the Great Migration.

  • morphus

    Drone info to arm twitter warriors …

    It has been 11 years since the United States began using missile-firing drones to attack Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia. But only now are we beginning a full public debate on this new form of warfare, and it took the nomination of the Obama administration’s drone czar, John Brennan, as director of the Central Intelligence Agency, to force it.,0,6759551.column

    • GreenLadyHere

      Good Saturday MOrnTin’ morphus. ***BIG HUG** :>) — –

      — – -***MAJOR fist bump*** – — -U STR8 CONNECTED the DOTS☻

      – – — -☻MR. PRESIDENT –[BLAH] – –>☻John Brennan —-> NOOOOOOW – –☻a MEGA FOCUS on –those NEVA-B4 –dreaded DRONEZ — – – -WE KNOW!!! –geesh!!!

      Good 2 C U morphus. :>) Have a good day. :>) —

    • crazycanuck

      This is why this is such a dam joke, 11 effing years and suddenly a black man in the whitehouse they get concerned.

      • rikyrah

        said it before, will repeat it.

        never saw this kind of concern for terrorists when a WHITE MAN was President.

    • creolechild

      Good info morphus. Here’s another article that discusses the reasons why PBO selected John Brenner, and what it could mean for foreign policy issues such as the use of drones. Sometimes emos/PL have a tendency to forget that the president is a long-term strategist…

      Exclusive: U.N.’s Drone Investigator Backs Brennan for Top CIA Job

      [….] “By putting Brennan in direct control of the CIA’s policy [of targeted killings], the president has placed this mediating legal presence in direct control of the positions that the CIA will adopt and advance, so as to bring the CIA much more closely under direct presidential and democratic control,” Emmerson says.

      H/T Spencer Ackerman

  • GreenLadyHere

    GOOD SATURDAY MORNTIN’ miranda/POU FAM♥— ***BIG HUG*** :>)

    – –****tears*** —-of CONDOLENCES. — – Sooo SAD. 00

    – – –Hadiya Pendleton funeral: Michelle Obama expected to attend this morning

    – – —- First lady Michelle Obama is expected to attend Hadiya Pendleton’s funeral this morning at Greater Harvest Baptist Church in the Washington Park neighborhood, about two miles from where the 15-year-old girl was gunned down last month.

    Hadiya was a majorette for King College Prep’s band and performed during President Barack Obama’s inauguration festivities just days before she was slain, shot in the back while hanging out with friends at a North Kenwood neighborhood park.

    The shooter was after someone else, police said. No one is in custody.
    – — -SNIP – – –
    The first lady’s visit is being seen not only as a gesture of condolence to the family but as part of an effort to draw attention and support for the president’s gun initiatives.

    As of 7 a.m. there were already about ten people lined up outside the church, 5141 S. State St.

    A hearse arrived shortly before 8 a.m. with a police escort.

    – – – –REST IN HIS ETERNAL PEACE –Miss Hadiya Pendelton.♥


    • GN

      Pic of the First Lady consoling Hadiya’s mom:

      powerful moment… Michelle Obama consoling Hadiya’s mom at her funeral.

      RIP, I feel so so sorry for her family and those of everyone touched by this senseless violence.

      • GreenLadyHere

        ***tears*** THANK U GN. – – –The –HOMEGOING — is sooo SPIRITUALLY LOVELY. – –[C my post.] – –AMEN.

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥- — – – -Dorner UPDATE: – —

    – – —Manhunt for ex-LAPD officer continues – –

    – —-Police continue the search for ex-LAPD officer Christopher Dorner in three states and northern Mexico. Carter Evans reports
    – — – – -TRAGIC – – —

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥ – – – —HAH! — – -Look at THEIR CONCERN!! – —geesh!! – –

    — —New England Blizzard Worries Mass. GOP Senate Candidates – –

    – — – –A rapidly approaching storm expected to pile on as much as 3 feet of snow in parts of New England is worrying prospective GOP candidates in Massachusetts who are hoping to collect a required 10,000 signatures for a special election to replace Secretary of State John Kerry. Per the National Journal:

    “I think any day lost is obviously going to be a huge impediment,” Massachusetts GOP strategistMeredith Warren said. “I would assume that this would’ve been a huge weekend for someone like Dan Winslow to be out getting signatures but…everyone’s hunkered down.”

    – – — NO CONCERN 4 the PEOPLE!! – – -ONLY THEIR VOTES!! – – —

    —- THEY —become – – -MORE DISGUSTIN’ – -with each passin’ day!! — –

    — -Annnnd —-FIRST they BLAMED Storm SANDY — -4 LOSIN’ VOTES 4 –da TWITT. – -LOL!

    — NOW — -THEY’RE trynta USE THIS STORM 4 LOSIN these VOTES. –HAH! —

    – — COMMENT:- – – Louise H Mowder
    God has a message for you, Massachusetts Republicans. He’s spoken to Ted Kennedy, and they decided that you guys don’t deserve to have Teddy’s old seat.
    – – -LOL- —

    – –COMMENT: – tweetivism
    God’s way of telling the GOP that their policies are not actually in line with what s/he wants (no matter how many times they claim it)? GOP Convention, Election (Sandy), now this… hint hint?
    – — -LOL! — -HAH! —

    – – —GLOAT! – – -LOL

    • Town

      The GOP prayed for bad weather to strike the 2008 DNC. It was sunny and beautiful for Candidate Obama.

      The next week, in MINNESOTA, they got a HURRICANE. Minnesota? Really?

      They prayed for bad stuff to happen during the 2012 DNC, but they went first and got a HURRICANE.

      They prayed for bad stuff to happen to Pres. Obama in October but they’re the ones who got the October Surprise: another HURRICANE.

      Now a snowstorm is jacking up their chances to get on the ballot in MA.

      “Somebody’s” trying to tell them something…but they just ain’t listenin’…

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥ — – -“ORANGE MAN” is BITTER! —LOL – – —

    – –Worst Speaker Ever: John Boehner Uses Pathetic Twitter Campaign to Blame Obama for Sequester – –

    — –Republicans are trying to blame President Obama for the automatic spending cuts that will kick in via the sequester. They’ve laid the groundwork for this little con as they always do, by repeating it ad nauseam as the premise for their further accusations.

    They’ve reached so far into their blame game that they’re quoting Bob Woodward.

    The National Review reported that John Boehner took a picture of text from Woodward’s book, The Price of Politics, in which Woodward wrote that then-White House chief of staff Jack Lew introduced the idea of sequestration into the debt-ceiling negotiations. Boehner passed this picture around, and even urged his staffers to replace their avatars with it. Boehner’s even pushing the hashtag “#obamaquester” in hopes of forcing the President to carry the weight of the Republicans’ failure.

    If it were true that sequester was Obama’s fault, Boehner wouldn’t have to go to such lengths; however, when the record defies your version of reality, great efforts must be made.
    — – -SNIP — –
    But see, the problem is that we never would have needed the sequester if the Republicans hadn’t decided to hold the country’s economy hostage by refusing to do the most basic task of raising the debt ceiling in order to pay off the things they already voted into existence.
    — – SNIP – —
    — The sequester is the direct result of the Republican attempt to use the debt ceiling as a weapon of mass economic destruction. Now Republicans are trying to pin the need for the sequester on Obama, which is like blaming someone for putting iron bars on their window after you steal from them.


    • UT over at The Obama Diary gets it. Emphasis mine:

      February 9, 2013 at 9:48 am

      You gotta give the GOP props for always out-crazying themselves on issue after issue. Economy, budget, social issues, VRA, etc. In 2011, Boehner gloated all over the TV and inter-webs that he got “98% of what he wanted” in the debt ceiling deal and now it’s Pres. Obama’s fault? Now they’re listening to Krauthhammer and the WSJ and pushing for sequestration?

      Do they not understand that sequestration hurts their talking points, lobbyists, and base? Over $500B will be cut from Defense and the GOP’s talking point goes poof! Sequestration while horrible greatly affects the republican side of the aisle more than the Democratic. Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and the like are spared from sequestration so if the GOP wants to go ahead, then “Please Proceed.”

      Pres. Obama has a bigger bully pulpit and has actually put a plan out there to avoid sequestration and what is the GOP doing? Shooting themselves in the foot once again. *sits back and eats popcorn*

      • GreenLadyHere

        Good MornTin’ woody45. :>) – –***BIG HUG*** :>) —

        – —***fist bump*** — – –TRUTH!! —HAH!– –
        — -THIS: – – –. . .so if the GOP wants to go ahead, then “Please Proceed.” – – -PUH-LEEZE!! — -LOL – –

        – – — -THEY R —-BEYOND — STOOPID!!–In their — DISARRAY. – –LOL – —

        — –YEP! – — – POPCORN TIME!! LOL.– –

        THANK U woody45. :>) – -Good 2 C U. :>) —

      • Miranda

        CAN.NOT.WAIT. for the State of the Union address!

        • conlakappa

          I wonder how many brats won’t show up, kmowing they will be handed their asses, which will be broken into pieces. Will sour-faced Alito be there? Thomas? Rs with shouting problems?

  • GreenLadyHere


    – ——☻ —President Obama had a first draft of his State of the Union address in his hands by Monday night and liked what he saw, his new top speechwriter said.
    “He likes it, which is a big relief for us,” Cody Keenan,
    who will become Obama’s director of speechwriting when Jon Favreau leaves the administration the end of the month, said in a video released by the White House on Friday.

    —–☻FLOTUS to headline childhood-obesity summit– –
    – — –First lady Michelle Obama will be the keynote speaker at a childhood-obesity summit next month at George Washington University.

    She is the honorary chair of The Partnership for a Healthier America, which is putting on the summit March 6th through 8th.

    – —YOUR SPECIAL SATURDAY TREAT. :>) – –ENJOY. :>) — – – -B BLESSED 2-DAY. :>) —


  • Mornin’ POU!

    Axel and Morphus posted these comments in last night’s thread, but I’m re-posting them here because they are so on point:


    Thought just hit me–don’t know if anyone else here has already made this point, but is the emo left up in arms over the LAPD showing without a shadow of a doubt that they are going to kill that brotha–an American citizen, I might add–as much as they are about DROOOOOONES and some terrorist’s “rights”?

    Morphus in response to Axel:


    The weasel word is “murder” therefore government sanctioned murder is a supported. Using term “terrorist” creates confusion in midst of 2d Am and drone memes.

    Yesterday, L.A. Sheriff’s office fired seven members from its repudiated Jump Out Boys Group with history of abuse. Gang unit “abuses” included initiating gang wars after gang truces. Is this an olive branch to Dorner?

    Hopefully, I’m not wandering too far off-topic … LA Sheriff’s office move triggered memories why those gang units were formed in the first place. These units were created after a “government sanctioned” CIA program “targeted” minority neighborhoods to raise money by dumping drugs and automatic weapons. I find direct correlation in terms targeted and government action when addressing drones and the contra program and I find that the “collateral” (I hate that word) damage from the contra program to be far more devastating.

    • GN

      the “collateral” (I hate that word) damage from the contra program to be far more devastating.

      Couldn’t be more on point.

  • From Matt Taibbi’s Reddit Q&A event…

    toobighasfailed: Matt, a line of yours is lodged in my head: “Organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.” Unfortunately, while the animosity of Occupy Wall Street is still strong in early 2013, the disorganization of the movement might be even stronger.

    So, if you were in charge of Occupy Wall Street, what single achievable goal would you (re)organize the movement around?

    MattTaibbi: Again, to repeat, breaking up the banks is the big thing. That should be the Holy Grail of activist goals. Everything flows from the TBTF problem. If that can be accomplished, we’re off and running. And it’s not farfetched. There are a lot of people even in DC coming around to the idea.


    To say “Everything flows from the TBTF problem” ignores the issues affecting non-white, middle and lower-class peoples such as unemployment, gun violence, high quality affordable health care, nutritional needs…etc. These issues aren’t rooted in “Too Big To Fall”.

    • GN

      Exactly; some on the left argue that everything boils down to economics and class, and IMO they are very wrong. It’s why they’re left flat-footed trying to explain year after year why some impoverished and working class white folks would seemingly vote against their best interests when they’re in fact voting for white priv, which clearly has tangible value.

      As for ows’ complaint, they’re right about one detail: the financial services industry does need to continue to be trimmed down but the way that ows is going about it is extremely ineffective. Amazing that they credit themselves for dubious accomplishments like media exposure, yet Dodd Frank which is a major accomplishment is derided for not being perfection.

      • Ebogan63

        “Amazing that they credit themselves for dubious accomplishments like media exposure, yet Dodd Frank which is a major accomplishment is derided for not being perfection.”

        And they don’t get in the trenches to improve on said legislation, since by and large(1) they don’t believe that ‘voting changes anything’ and (2) they are dismissive of the concerns of black and brown folks that care about jobe, economy, safety in their communities.

        Bullshitting about ‘banksters’ gets them on TV more than mundane things that concern everyday folks.

        • GN

          President Obama said he’d usher in a US manufacturing boom and double our exports, while starting of work of putting constraints on the financial services industry, and that’s EXACTLY what he’s done. Yet he is supposed to receive no credit for this while people are supposed to get credit for “changing the national conversation” and being on teevee. Just no. Couldn’t be more tired of it.

    • Miranda

      SMH…they are nothing if not consistent…consistently out of touch.

    • creolechild

      Notice that Taibbi didn’t offer any real solutions to the problem. He stuck to the same old, tired talking points that he drags out whenever he gets face time. No strategy, no ideas–creative or otherwise–about how to, first, educate the public and then get them onboard; no clear-cut solutions for ensuring that action is taken by policymakers in D.C. who we know will not even consider legislation of this type; and no discussion of what reigning the banks in would entail (hello, complex regulations needed).

      If this is how Taibbi plans to go about achieving the “the Holy Grail of activist goals,” I think it’s safe to assume that TBTF has nothing to fear from him because he’s got nothing…which is not the least bit surprising!

  • Miranda

    WHERE THE HELL IS THE SOLE PATROL ON THIS?? What say you Tavis? Corny? Jesse? Alcee? Marcia?? SPEAK UP…I CANT HEAR YOUCops Nab 5-Year-Old for Wearing Wrong Color Shoes to SchoolIn Mississippi, if kindergarteners violate the dress code or act out in class, they may end up in the back of a police car.

    A story about one five-year-old particularly stands out. The little boy was required to wear black shoes to school. Because he didn’t have black shoes, his mom used a marker to cover up his white and red sneakers. A bit of red and white were still noticeable, so the child was taken home by the cops.

    The child was escorted out of school so he and his mother would be taught a lesson.more here:

    • dannie22

      i posted this last night. my heart is breaking. where are the black agenda reporters who scream “DRONES! DRONES! DRONES!”? they go silent

    • edp4bho

      This is another method, well thought out, I might add, of acquainting certain youth with the dominance of the klan in blue, also attempting to develop the contempt for said klan which would lead certain youth into indifference to their law, thus leaning towards a life in crime, and becoming part of the prison industrial complex. IOW, they frickin with us from the cradle. The klan’s been at this for centuries- they know what works. Somebody remind head-master, wise sage and know-it-all prick Corny, of why he’s the black man’s saviour. He seems to have forgotten his well-heralded purpose. JMHO !

  • creolechild

    Eliminating Saturday Postal Service Threatens Vote-by-Mail Democracy

    [….] The move endangers small businesses that rely on affordable, universal and regular service. And it threatens the elderly, the disabled and vulnerable Americans who count on the connections made through the mail—and with the letter carriers who deliver it. But there is another threat contained in this wrongheaded plan to put the Postal Service out of commission from Friday to Monday. Cutting mail delivery would undermine democracy by making it harder for the tens of millions of Americans who vote by mail to continue to do so.[….]

    Though the numbers vary from state to state, it is now generally accepted that 20 percent of American voters—including First Lady Michelle Obama—are casting ballots by mail. The numbers have increased at an exponential rate in recent years. Most mail voters do so via traditional absentee ballots, although roughly 5 percent live in states that formally conduct elections using a vote-by-mail system. And the practice is expanding; next week in California, 44,000 vote-by-mail ballots will be mailed to voters in advance of a March special election for the State Senate.[….]

    Read more:

    H/T John Nichols

  • GreenLadyHere

    – – –WE HAD HOPE in the JOURNEY– –

    – – -#1. – -SADLY — -WE MET OTHER FATES: – —

    ——☻Once many of the migrants arrived, the land of promise was not all that it seemed.

    — —☻The combination of overcrowding, poverty, and poor access to quality medical treatment – even in the North there were few black physicians and hospitals were generally segregated – ensured a variety of serious health problems in African-American communities. [From 2-8-13]

    – — – -☻The so-called Red Summer of 1919 actually began two years earlier in East St. Louis, Illinois, in July 1917. It was the only one of the battles to be directly linked to racial conflict in the workplace, but white workers’ fear of job competition was likely behind all of them.[LEARNED SOMETHING NEW :>) -THANK U. :>)]

    – –2. TODAY’s information is MORE HOPEFUL: – -:>) —

    – — —Chicago was one of the first cities where African Americans attained a measure of political influence. A number of black politicians rose to prominence. Perhaps the most outstanding was Oscar DePriest, who became Chicago’s first black councilman in 1915.

    – — – – – ☻ The 1920s saw the emergence of the New Negro Movement, later called the Harlem Renaissance. Writers, poets, painters, musicians, and sculptors took some of their inspiration from the lives and struggles of the newcomers to the North. But, as Langston Hughes wrote, “The ordinary Negroes hadn’t heard of the Negro Renaissance. And if they had, it hadn’t raised their wages any.”

    — – – -☻ As W. E. B. Du Bois concluded, the journey north represented not the end of a struggle but only its beginning.


    – –B BLESSED. :>) –

  • creolechild

    Although the topic of this article pertains to black feminism, I think it’s applicable in this case as well. Especially given some default lines that are never broached by “certain individuals” on the left.

    Feminism 101: Patricia Hill Collins, Black Feminist Thought in the Matrix of Domination – Posted on 2/15/08

    [….] Collins argues that, with respect to thinking about oppression, black feminist thought has fostered a ‘paradigmatic shift’ (which means a shift in thought patterns) because it ‘rejects additive approaches to oppression.’ This means that it does not start with gender and then add other variables such as race, class, sexual orientation, disability etc. It sees these distinctive systems of oppression as being part of one overarching structure of domination in which all these systems are dependent on one another. Instead of arguing about who experiences the worst oppression, intersectionality focuses attention on how these systems of oppression interconnect in different peoples’ lives.[….]

    [….] In this system, for example, white women are penalized by their gender but privileged by their race. Depending on the context, an individual may be an oppressor, a member of an oppressed group, or simultaneously oppressor and oppressed.[….] Given that groups are unequal in power in making themselves heard, dominant groups have a vested interest in suppressing the knowledge produced by subordinate group.[….]

    Sometimes feminists from more dominant groups do have vested interests in suppressing the knowledge produced by subordinate groups. And sometimes they don’t want to listen to what women who have different experiences of oppression are saying because it might challenge their thinking or force a change in feminist priorities.

    Read more:

    H/T Winter

  • creolechild

    Court Holds Low Kansas School Funding Unconstitutional, Lawmakers Respond By Attacking Constitution

    Just weeks after a three judge panel unanimously ruled the Kansas legislature was failing to meet its constitutionally defined responsibility to suitably fund the state’s education needs, conservative Kansas legislators responded with a proposal to limit judicial oversight of education funding.

    The January ruling ordered the legislature to raise education funding around $400 million to return the state’s schools to reasonable standards and called out the hypocrisy of cuts given other “priorities” pursued by the legislature at the same time: The court said it was “illogical” for the state to argue that it could not adequately fund schools at the same time it slashed income taxes.

    Read more:

    H/T Andrea Peterson

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥ — -Jus’ musin’: – — -YA KNOW —-THEY [MSM]– NEEDTA STOP!! – –

    The MORE they mention how CLOSE DEAR Miss Hadiya♥ – -LIVED — 2 MR. PRESIDENT’s –FORMER HOUSE- — the NEXT HEADLINE could very well have HIM RESPONSIBLE 4 this tragedy.!!

    – – -THEY — -SICK!! – – -SICK – -I TELL U. geesh!! —

  • creolechild

    Oil companies aren’t happy that the government is making them fix defective offshore rig parts

    The U.S. government has asked Chevron, Shell, and our old friends at Transocean to halt drilling on wells in the Gulf of Mexico. Why? Because the systems connecting the rigs to the ocean floor contain defective parts.[….]

    Installing new bolts and resuming drilling may take as long as three weeks for each rig, Credit Suisse Group AG said. For oil companies paying upwards of $600,000 a day to rent the most-sophisticated deep-water vessels and another $500,000 a day to staff and supply each of them, the delays may be significant, said Craig Pirrong, director of the University of Houston’s Global Energy Management Institute.[….]

    Read more:

    H/T Philip Bump

  • Alma98

    Good morning all.

    • crazycanuck

      Morning. The sun is very bright here today, which means it must be biting cold outside.

      • Alma98

        It’s sunny here too but very cold.

  • GreenLadyHere


    – —Miss Hadiya Pendleton’s HOMEGOING– – -AMEN! – –AMEN! annnnd AMEN. — ***tears***

  • creolechild

    Drug Testing Plan In Georgia Nabs… One Person

    Last year, the Georgia Department of Labor started encouraging employers to report job applicants that fail their drug test. Because the unemployed love to spend what little money they have on drugs. This scheme to get out of paying unemployment insurance has netted exactly one report. Just one job applicant who failed the burdensome pee-in-a-cup test and who is now no longer receiving unemployment.[….]

    But that doesn’t matter when ALEC mandates that its followers get these laws on the books. [….] I guess a little criticism is easy to take when one is being adequately compensated by the richest citizens in the country. I don’t know about you but I am tired of ALEC passing laws through their sock puppets.[….]

    Read more:

    H/T T. Steelman

  • GN

    Bronx Hip-Hop Collective to Launch a ‘Radical’ Library for Youth – New York

    The Richie Perez Radical Library, named for a South Bronx educator and activist who died in 2004, combines works by influential thinker-agitators, such as Angela Davis and Malcolm X, with writings by hip-hop luminaries including KRS-One, the RZA and Jay-Z.

  • creolechild

    What Some Companies Are Spending to Lobby Washington

    U.S. companies spent $3.28 billion lobbying Washington last year. Here’s what some of the biggest names in business spent, compared with the year before.

    Read more:

    H/T Jonathan D. Salant

  • GN

    Family members of Ms.Pendleton said they were pleased and honored that Mrs. Obama,who has lived on the South Side of Chicago chose to come.

    • Miranda

      To me, its far more powerful for FLOTUS to attend than PBO. This is a mother of a daughter who was only a few years younger than Hadiya…there but before the grace of God, could have been Malia. FLOTUS was born and raised there. She IS Chicago..this is not to dismiss PBO’s work and connection to the city nor is it meant to dismiss the pain of a father, but its just seems so much more poignant for FLOTUS and Valerie Jarrett to attend.

      • GN

        I’m sure the WH is also sensitive to the media circuses and derangements which surround President Obama, and wouldn’t want to be disruptive to this child’s funeral. I think it’s highly poignant too—I just can’t imagine what the family is going through.

      • Town

        Malia is only a year younger. Malia could’ve been hanging in that park with Hadiya.

  • crazycanuck

    Ok this may be a stupid question, but can I have two humidifiers on at the same time?

    • gc

      Yes, we do.

      • crazycanuck

        Oh thanks gc, good to see you.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda — – —-LOL – —DRONEZ?? – – —***YAWN*** — —

    —-Drones: Tough talk, little scrutiny

    – —-From the way senators talked about the drone program at the John Brennan hearing Thursday, you’d think Congress has been hauling in White House officials to explain the program in the light of day again and again.

    But Congress’ public oversight of targeted killings has been almost nonexistent. The last hearings on the drone strikes — held by a House national security subcommittee — faded away after the early months of 2010. – –BWAHAHA!! — —

    And until Thursday’s Brennan hearing, the two committees with jurisdiction over the CIA drone program — the Senate and House Intelligence Committees — have never held a public inquiry on the program. The Senate and House Armed Services Committees, which oversee the military drone program in war zones, haven’t held hearings, either. — [HAH! ]- –

    Senior members of Congress insist they are briefed on strikes, but that only happens after a strike — behind closed doors, far from public view.

    – – – -SNIP – —
    — –So while it’s big news this week that the White House turned over classified legal opinions that justify using drone strikes to kill Americans abroad, it’s not clear that the revelation marks a new day for drone oversight.

    In fact, there’s plenty of evidence to suggest that Congress will return to status quo, as the Hill often does after a brief moment of interest in a headline-grabbing national security program like the eavesdropping program under President George W. Bush.
    THERE IS MORE. – —

    – –BWAHAHA!! – —2 THA-ROUGH!! –LOL — – AIN’T NOBODY CARE!! – —

    —— —PLEASE PROCEED. . –> – —-WASTIN’ TIME!!! LOL – –

    WMD — -KILLED — –Waitaminute. . . .DEY DI-ENT EXIST!! — –
    Soo – –“WHYCOME” – – –soooo many LIVES were LOST!?? — -SHRUB???

  • goldenstar

    am watching Hadiya’s Pendleton’s homegoing service streaming live. At the request of the family, Rev. Mike Pfleger is telling it right now. Telling it.

    • Worldwatcher7

      Thanks for the heads up. I’m watching now too.

  • Miranda

    The RW trying to spread nonsense

    Chuck Hagel camp: He’s not dropping out

    Chuck Hagel’s camp pushed back forcefully Friday against the notion that he might remove himself from consideration to be secretary of Defense.

    “There is absolutely no truth to the notion that Sen. Hagel might consider withdrawing,” a Hagel aide told POLITICO. “He’s continuing his prep work and getting up to speed on the issues he will deal with as secretary of Defense.”

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  • gc

    Thank you for another brilliant series. The B&W photos are awesome, with their “you are there” sense.

    • gc

      PS I look at photos like these and always thnk, re, AA people: undervalued underestimated, and fear transforms into hate.

    • Alma98

      Hello gc long time no see. I hope everything in your life is good, we still haven’t heard from AquaGranny I’m really worried about it. AG if you’re out there I’m sending you and your family healing light and good thoughts. Much Love

      • gc

        You are such a sweetheart, Alma. I hurt my back and sitting at the computer is nasty.

        I am fine, hope a AG is as well.

        I also picked up another couple causes: Renewing Violence Against Women act intact, and Mothers for Gun Control.

        We have three or four feet of snow, but thank heavens, no winds.

        I hope you and your loved ones are well.

        • Alma98

          The family is good, I have back problems sometimes and sitting can be painful. As for your causes those are good causes to have gc, PBO needs all the help he can get. We got a lot of snow here too and it’s cold so I’ll be staying inside. AG’s daughter is in a health crisis and we haven’t heard from her for awhile, it’s worrisome. You take care of yourself gc ok.

          • gc

            Damn I didn’t know that about AG. If I learn anything on TPV, I’ll let you know.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – – – -THIS COMMENT!!: – – — [2 THIS ARTICLE: –Debunking the Ridiculous Rhetoric that Obama is an Assassin Who Targets Innocent Americans ] — –


    I am as anti-war as anyone, but this hysteria over drones is peculiar. Where was the hysteria over sending thousands to the Gulf twice, killing thousands and thousands of innocent Iraqis–along with thousands of Americans– both times?

    How many US soldiers have these drones gotten killed? How many innocent bystanders, compared to actual invasions?

    The deterrent factor of these drones should also be noted. Imagine how you would feel as a plotter against the US, knowing that you might be a target? Maybe you’d be just a little bit deterred?

    –Sure it is creepy, sure it is unnerving to imagine being targeted. But we should work for proper oversight. I have a lot of confidence in Obama’s judgment. An oversight court might be better.

    – –But, just think if we had had to use troops to invade Yemen to get Al-Awaki, or actually invade Pakistan? Where would we be right now in numbers killed on both sides? – — [***fist bump***]– —

  • dannie22

    watching hadiya’s funeral. her friends and members of her dance crew are speaking. so many beautiful young kids whose lives should never have been touched by this tragedy. today is a sad day.

  • creolechild

    2013 Sony World Photography Awards

    Here are highlights from the 2013 Sony World Photography Awards, from both the professional and open collections. More than 122,000 entries from 170 countries were submitted. Captions are in their original form, posted alongside the images.[…]

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  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – —1 MO’ — —-DRONEZ: — — ->CALLIN’– OUT the –FAUX-trage!! -HAH! —

    —- –Debunking the Ridiculous Rhetoric that Obama is an Assassin Who Targets Innocent Americans – —

    – —- –If Americans were queried about their vision of ideal government in a dangerous world where America was not adored by all, there would be as many different responses as there are people depending on their worldview and political ideology, but reasonably they would break down into a few groups. Conservatives would relish oligarchy with the masses toiling to fund global military conquest to impose corporate dominance over the entire world, and religious fundamentalists would imagine a population bound by biblical edict and enslaved to fund an onward Christian army to exterminate Islam in preparation for Christ’s Second Coming. Pragmatic liberals might dream of economic opportunity and civil rights for all with a powerful military to defend the homeland and, as a last resort, protect their interests from aggression abroad. Within the latter group is segment envisioning a world with no animosity toward America and no need for proactive military intervention to protect the homeland from enemies devoted to destroying Americans, and their rhetoric informs their naïveté.
    — – –SNIP —
    First and foremost, no reasonable American condones killing innocent civilians, Americans or foreigners, and there are no reasonable Americans driven by a killing fetish to deprive Americans of their due process; even murderers deserve a trial by a jury of the peers. However, to assume it is even possible to capture an al-Qaeda mastermind such as al-Awlaki in a country like Yemen, and give him due process with a jury of his peers, is absurd. Al-Awlaki was American born, but when he inspired the Fort Hood shooter and underwear bomber to kill innocent Americans, his civil liberties as an American citizen were forfeited, including “due process.” Even if al-Awlaki was captured in a foreign nation, would a jury of his peers be 12 Americans he vowed to kill, or 12 al-Qaeda operatives from Yemen where he took up residence, planned and directed the killings of innocent American citizens?

    The legalities of targeted drone killings aside, it is the critics’ rhetoric that bears scrutiny.
    THERE IS MORE! — — TRUTH!! –

    –WE KNOW FAUX-trage – –WHEN we C IT :>)- -HAH!

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – – – -LOL – —She HASN’T LOST Her —CRAZY TOUCH!! –LOL— –

    —–Bachmann Campaign Accused of Stealing Mailing List— –

    – — –“Eight months after Michele Bachmann’s 2012 presidential bid ground to a halt in Iowa, her campaign manager there signed a sworn affidavit, pointing his finger at another top staffer in a still-simmering dispute over the misuse of a contact list of home-school family names,” NBC News reports.

    “The list was the at the center of a flap late in Bachmann’s presidential run, when a powerful Iowa home-school network called NICHE complained that its collection of contacts for thousands of home-school families had been mined by the campaign and used to expand its fundraising.” — —

    —-***points annnnd – laffs at- –baKKKman!*** LOL

    • conlakappa

      I got on her e-mail distribution list somehow. I think her people stole from a few places..

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY conlakappa ***BIG HUG*** :>)- —

        — – -LOL REALLY!? – – – -A RE-THUCKER – –STEAL?? — -LOL- – — THANKS 4 sharin’. – –:>)

        Good 2 C U conlakappa. :>) – –

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – —FROM – -MR. PRESIDENT: – — – – –

    – – – –Obama promises Chicago teen’s family to work hard to end senseless violence

    – – –First lady Michelle Obama attended the funeral in Chicago Saturday for 15-year-old Hadiya Pendleton, who was gunned down in a park about a mile from the Obamas’ home.

    The funeral program featured a copy of a handwritten message from President Obama to Pendleton’s parents, the Chicago Tribune reports:

    “Dear Cleopatra and Nathaniel, Michelle and I just wanted you to know how heartbroken we are to have heard about Hadiya’s passing. We know that no words from us can soothe the pain, but rest assured that we are praying for you, and that we will continue to work as hard as we can to end this senseless violence. God Bless.”

    Prior to the service, the first lady met privately with about 30 of Hadiya’s friends and classmates, and then with members of Hadiya’s family, according to a White House official.

    – – – –RIHEP —Miss HADIYA – — –BLESS U♥ –BELOVED FIRST LADY♥ — –

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda — — Awwwwww — –Dear LITTLE –ON —Lookon’ FORWARD —> 2 — 2-MORROW– —Woo! Hoo! :>) – —

    – – – –Quvenzhané Wallis reportedly being considered for ‘Annie’ role – –:>) — –

    – ——-Quvenzhané Wallis, the 9-year-old Academy Award nominated star of Beasts of the Southern Wild, is being considered for the lead role in an upcoming remake of the classic musical Annie, according the Entertainment Weekly.

    The pint-size actress is reveling in the spotlight. She recently appeared on NBC’s Rock Center, where she boasted that she is a “triple threat.”

    The reboot of Annie has been long rumored, with 12-year-old pop singer Willow Smith previously attached the lead role.

    However, Willow’s father, actor Will Smith confirmed that she is no longer interested during a recent appearance at Temple University.

    “Willow was supposed to be doing Annie, we got Jay-Z to do the movie, go the studio to come in and Willow had such a difficult time on tour with ‘Whip my Hair’ and she said, ‘You know Daddy,’ I don’t think so,” said the former Fresh Prince, adding that his daughter also said, “I have a better idea, how about I just be 12.”
    THERE IS MORE. – — — -GR8 PICS!! :>) – – —

    P.S. – –Jus’ sayin’. . . .I have BEEN havin’ CONCERNS about “Willow”. — She appears 2 B sooo unsupervised [without parental “guidance”.] —-PRAYIN’ 4 HER. :>) – –

  • rikyrah

    What Rove’s War Will Look Like

    by BooMan
    Sat Feb 9th, 2013 at 12:56:01 PM EST

    I agree with John Dickerson. Tea Party folks probably shouldn’t be gearing up for war with Karl Rove. Or, maybe they should be, I don’t know. Let’s consider what Rove’s Conservative Victory Project is likely to do, in practice. We already know that they will support someone in Iowa who is not Rep. Steve King. They will probably oppose Michele Bachmann if she chooses to challenge Sen. Al Franken in Minnesota. They will try to find someone to replace the retiring Saxby Chambliss in Georgia who isn’t entirely crazy, although that may be hard to do. If Lindsey Graham or Susan Collins or Thad Cochran or Lamar Alexander or Mitch McConnell have any primary challenges, Rove’s outfit will try to crush them. In West Virginia, they’ll try to assure that Rep. Shelley Capito Moore wins the nomination to replace retiring Sen. Jay Rockefeller.

    Now, if you think Steve King and Michele Bachmann can win statewide, I have some crack cocaine for you to smoke. If you think it will help the Republican brand to have King and Bachmann running statewide and making daily national news, I need to up my offer to a speedball.

    Rove is trying to increase the odds that the Republicans can win back the Senate. I don’t know what the Tea Party is trying to do.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda — – -Awww – — Soooo PRAYIN’ 4 THEM – – -AMEN – —

    – – –664,000 Residents Without Power After Massive Storm Hits The Northeast

    ——An estimated 664,000 residents from Maine to Pennsylvania are without power this weekend after a massive snowstorm swept the Northeast. “Wet, heavy snow and high winds snapped power lines in eight states,” including Massachusetts which saw “17 to 28 inches” of snow in some areas of the state. Connecticut has more than 38 inches of snow with “82-mph wind gusts,” while more than two feet of snow was reported on Long Island. Whole communities have been evacuated, and governors declared states of emergency in four states.

    “At least six deaths were blamed on the storm, including three in Canada,” the Associated Press reports. “One pedestrian was struck by a vehicle and killed Friday night in Prospect, Conn., and a 23-year-old New York man plowing his driveway with a farm tractor went off the edge of the road and was killed, police in those states said.”

    Climate scientists speculate that the amount of snow and the ferocity of the storm, named Nemo, may well have ties to global warming. As Dr. Kevin Trenberth, former head of the Climate Analysis Section at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, explained to Climate Progress’ Joe Romm, “ingredients for a big snow storm include temperatures just below freezing” and moisture.
    THERE IS MORE.- — —–PRAYIN’. . AMEN. – – –

  • Miranda

    Evening thread is up!

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – — REP. Elijah Cummings on the POST OFFICE CLOSING —

    — –Cummings: Postal Service cuts would hurt minority groups, single mother– —

    – – –The U.S. Postal Service’s decision to eliminate Saturday delivery could disproportionally hurt minority groups, according to Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), the ranking member on the House Oversight Committee.

    “You’re talking about just this reduction … from six days to five days will cut anywhere from 25,000 to 30,000 employees. And with regard to Asian, African-Americans, and Hispanics, they comprise about 40 percent of the Postal Service employees,” Cummings told Melissa Harris-Perry on MSNBC Friday night. “So it’s logical to believe if they were to lose that 30,000 jobs, easily 40 percent of them would be African-Americans, Hispanics, and Asian-Americans.”

    Cummings also pointed out that 40 percent of postal employees are female and warned that many are single mothers.

    “So you have a lot of women, many of whom are single women — head of household, and they depend upon that decent wage, decent working conditions and benefits to take care of their families,” he said. “So, yes, it would have a devastating effect in an economy that is already very, very fragile.”

    – –SNIP – —

    — –“Basically, what the Congress needs to do is do a comprehensive bill whereby we have what we call an innovation officer, which is my idea. And that person would keep the Post Office as cutting edge of innovation and bringing in new ways to of making money,” he said. “The other thing we`re going to have to do is we are going to have to do some downsizing. But when we downsize, we have to downsize with compassion.
    THERE IS MORE — — – –

    —Annnnd YES! — -THIS will affect the JOBS REPORT! – – -NOT MR. PRESIDENT’s FAULT!!> — —

  • malletgirl02

    “Chicago was one of the first cities where African Americans attained a measure of political influence.”

    Has anyone seen the movie “His Girl Friday”? it is remake of the movie, “The Front Page.” in both movies the main characters are complaining about the “blacks” having political power. The Roslind Russel in “His Girl Friday” pretty much says that verbatim. That is why I will always hate “His Girl Friday”. “The Front Page” has pretty much the same plot but it is much more honest about the true intentions of the characters. Unlike “His Girl Friday” the characters in “The Front Page” are portrayed as shady characters.

    • Worldwatcher7

      I remember seeing His Girl Friday as a little kid and thinking, “WTF! That’s racist!”