October 21, 2017

Sunday Open Thread : Morning Jazz

Good morning Pragmatic Obots!

Sunday morning jazz featuring the incomparable Dinah Washington.

  • GreenLadyHere
  • GreenLadyHere
  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2 – – – – -THIS is EXCITING!- – – -OUR 21st CENTURY PRESIDENT!! – —-

    – –Obama’s data advantage. – –

    – – – – –The depth and breadth of the Obama campaign’s 2012 digital operation — from data mining to online organizing — reaches so far beyond anything politics has ever seen, experts maintain, that it could impact the outcome of a close presidential election.

    Gives NEW MEANING 2 – – -“REACH OUT annnd TOUCH!!” :>)

    – – – -FIRED UP! – – –MOVING – – – -FORWARD!! :>)– – – –

    • conlakappa

      There seems to be subliminal messaging in the constant use of “close.” Wasn’t that also the push with the race with the Mack Daddy?

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2 – – – – -MR. “TEACHER” – – – -PRESIDENT – — -ASKS – – –GRADE US – – – –

    – – – —Obama’s campaign asks supporters to grade its performance– – –

    – – – —President Obama’s campaign is calling on supporters to grade its performance amid a difficult early June for his reelection bid against presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney.

    “This campaign is ramping up, and the decisions we make right now will shape our path to victory in November,” said campaign manager Jim Messina in an email to supporters sent Saturday night.

    “That’s why I want your input, because you are the ones building this campaign on the ground in your community. We want to know from you what’s working, what we could be doing better, what you care about, and what you’re hearing about the President and this campaign,” said Messina.

    The email contains a link to a survey asking backers to rate which issues are most important to them and the effectiveness of the campaign’s efforts so far.

    — -THE- – – -NEGATIVITY of the REST of this article – — is – -DISGUSTING!!

    – –U HAVE DONE Soooo WELL – –MR. PRESIDENT. THANK U. :>)- –

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2 – – – -V.P. BIDEN- — – -FUN TIME WITH the CHILDREN- :>) —

    – – – –Biden’s beach bash soaking– —

    – – – –Joe Biden got a soaking Saturday as Washington’s media stars mingled at the vice president’s beach bash here at the Naval Observatory.

    Biden took up a Super Soaker water gun toward the end of the soiree and joined in the fun with many of the reporters’ children. When one soaked him from behind, he exclaimed: “What are you doing? You’re on my team!” From the look on his face, and his dripping polo shirt and shorts, he had even more fun than they did.
    THERE IS MORE. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere


    – – – –Job Killing For Dummies: Why the GOP is to Blame For the Lack of Jobs – – –

    – – – –It is not unusual during elections for candidates to cast aspersion on their rivals to portray them as unworthy of support, and Republicans have spent considerable time blaming President Obama for sluggish job growth. In fact, the GOP, and particularly Willard Romney, has assailed the President for not creating jobs they claim is only possible if the wealthy receive more tax cuts and the government goes on a deregulation frenzy. The GOP agenda has never changed in over thirty years, and despite the abject failure of their grand scheme to enrich “job creators” and their corporations, they persist in attempting to convince Americans that the policies that have failed time and time again are the only remedy to save the economy and spur full employment. Romney, in particular, assails the President for being “anti-business, anti-investment, and anti-job policies,” but as usual, Romney lies.

    – –It is important to remember that on Inauguration Day, a group of Republican leaders gathered to map out their plan to obstruct every one of the President’s economic plans and they certainly followed through on their promises. Since the President has been in office, Republicans voted against the stimulus that created over 3 million jobs, infrastructure improvements, breaks for small businesses that hire new employees, all of the jobs bills, and any program to spur economic growth. Republicans, and Romney, claim that if the President had concentrated on job creation instead of the landmark healthcare reform bill, the economy would be in better shape than it is and Americans would be back to work. However, their obstructionist tactics have subverted any attempts to create jobs so their argument falls flat.

  • GreenLadyHere


    – – —Innovative blues, jazz guitarist Pete Cosey dies – —

    – –Pete Cosey, an innovative guitarist who brought his distinctive distorted sound to recordings with Miles Davis, Howlin’ Wolf and Muddy Waters, has died, his daughter said. He was 68.

    Cosey died May 30 of complications from surgery at Vanguard Weiss Memorial Hospital in Chicago, said his daughter Mariama Cosey.

    Pete Cosey’s musical journey began early, his daughter said, noting that Cosey’s father died when he was 9 years old.

    “That’s how he dealt with his father’s passing … and if I had to pick one instance in his life that just really rocked his world, that was it,” she said. “I think he tried to spend his time trying to communicate with my granddaddy.”

    In the 1960s, Cosey was a member of the studio band at Chess Records in Chicago, where he played on Waters’ “Electric Mud” and Howlin’ Wolf’s “Howlin’ Wolf Album.” Cosey also worked with Etta James and Chuck Berry.

    – –RIHEP annnd THANK U 4 YOUR MUSIC. – –PETE COSEY. – – –

    – – -[oops Gotta “bounce”. – – -MISSIN U/CARRYIN’ U -IN MY ♥ :>)]

    • goldenstar

      Thanks for posting this.

      This saddens me. This hospital is near me and I can’t even say that this story was covered in Chicago. We don’t respect the contributions of so many folks. sigh.

      I am holding Pete Cosey’s family in the Light.

  • Official: Egypt’s Mubarak in critical condition


    The Associated Press

    CAIRO — Hosni Mubarak is slipping in and out of consciousness eight days after the ousted Egyptian leader was sent to prison to begin serving a life sentence, a security official said on Sunday.

    With rumors of the former president’s death spreading rapidly, authorities granted his wife, former first lady Suzanne Mubarak, and the couple’s two daughters-in-law special permission to visit him in Cairo’s Torah prison early that morning.

    “The former president’s health is in decline, but now it’s stable in its deteriorated state,” the official said. Since his wife’s visit, Mubarak has suffered from an irregular heartbeat and required assistance in breathing.

    The official told The Associated Press that the former president now lives only on liquids and yogurt. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

    MORE: http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/official-egypts-mubarak-in-1455317.html

    • rikyrah

      I didn’t see it commented on when he received his life sentence, but those Egyptians were tough…they were like, ‘ f-that, I want him hung’. I was like, dayum, they are not playing with him.

  • rikyrah

    Happy 11th Birthday, Sasha Obama!!

    • Happy Birthday Miss Sasha!

  • rikyrah

    Good Morning, Everyone:)

  • gc

    You post a pic of Miss Crowley in a bathing suit, I will have to find you and kill you. Yeah. I’m going to (“imma” as you taught me ;)) going to hell.

  • Miranda

    This mofo really said this on This Week.

    Laura Reich ‏@Energymom
    Santorum, “teachers are great, but they are not worth the money they make”. #disgusted

    • Say what???

    • gc

      He’s right,they are worth MORE!


    • conlakappa

      His wife is home-schooling all thise kids, which demonstrates he doesn’t have much regard for education as a process ( he got his), his children’s futures, or his wife’s time.

  • MonieTalks

    Did Republicans deliberately crash the US economy?
    Be it ideology or stratagem, the GOP has blocked pro-growth policy and backed job-killing austerity – all while blaming Obama

    …..Beyond McConnell’s words, though, there is circumstantial evidence to make the case. Republicans have opposed a lion’s share of stimulus measures that once they supported, such as a payroll tax break, which they grudgingly embraced earlier this year. Even unemployment insurance, a relatively uncontroversial tool for helping those in an economic downturn, has been consistently held up by Republicans or used as a bargaining chip for more tax cuts. Ten years ago, prominent conservatives were loudly making the case for fiscal stimulus to get the economy going; today, they treat such ideas like they’re the plague.

    Traditionally, during economic recessions, Republicans have been supportive of loose monetary policy. Not this time. Rather, Republicans have upbraided Ben Bernanke, head of the Federal Reserve, for even considering policies that focus on growing the economy and creating jobs.

    And then, there is the fact that since the original stimulus bill passed in February of 2009, Republicans have made practically no effort to draft comprehensive job creation legislation. Instead, they continue to pursue austerity policies, which reams of historical data suggest harms economic recovery and does little to create jobs. In fact, since taking control of the House of Representatives in 2011, Republicans have proposed hardly a single major jobs bill that didn’t revolve, in some way, around their one-stop solution for all the nation’s economic problems: more tax cuts.

    read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/09/did-republicans-deliberately-crash-us-economy

  • MonieTalks

    Confessions of a recovering Objectivist
    For a time, I was a devotee of Ayn Rand’s ideas. Now I see what a pernicious philosophy rational egoism is – and how dumb!

    …What’s scary is that so many Americans have not grown out of that mentally puerile phase. Instead, this contingent – now largely comprised of Tea Party radicals – remains mired in her pop philosophy.

    (Only now has Republican Congressman Paul Ryan, perhaps realizing that supporting an atheist adulterer might hurt his veep chances, changed his tunefrom Objectivist fanboy to follower of Thomas Aquinas.)

    Granted, it’s doubtful that any political group so suspicious of the intelligentsia would actually read Rand’s 1,200 word magnum opus, Atlas Shrugged, but her ideas are clearly being used to justify inequality, giving credence to institutionalized wealth-based elitism.

    This has to stop, and stop now. But not just for the reasons that typically get brought up. Anti-Rand commentators have long pointed out both the pragmatic and personal problems with Rand. As evidenced by the Great Recession, for example, anything even remotely close to the unfettered capitalism advocated by Rand plainly does not work.

    Also, as evidenced by her personal life, she was more a hypocritical, questionable character than a moral role model. As a teenager in Russia, “she watched her family nearly starve while she treated herself to the theater.” She railed against government benefits but cheerfully collected social security and Medicare. She championed integrity, but bastardized Nietzsche’s best ideas.

    read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/10/confessions-recovering-objectivist-ayn-rand

  • Romney’s senior adviser runteldat to a German newspaper, undermining U.S. foreign policy.

    Romney Adviser Takes U.S. Political Debate Overseas

    A senior economic adviser to Mitt Romney criticized President Obama and his policy toward crisis-torn Europe, and Germany in particular, in an op-ed article in a leading German newspaper on Saturday, raising the question of the propriety of taking America’s political fights into international affairs.

    The article — written by R. Glenn Hubbard, the dean of the Columbia Business School and a former adviser in the Bush administration, and published in the business journal Handelsblatt — drew a rebuke from the Obama campaign.

    “In a foreign news outlet, Governor Romney’s top economic adviser both discouraged essential steps that need to be taken to promote economic recovery and attempted to undermine America’s foreign policy abroad,” said Ben LaBolt, press secretary for the president’s re-election campaign.

    MORE: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/09/romney-adviser-takes-u-s-political-debate-overseas/?smid=tw-thecaucus&seid=auto

    • conlakappa

      But will his campaign be asked about it or will we get the usual cricket cacophony courtesy of the media’s collective silence? I should think that it will backfire on the campaign–they have to have the fight where people might actually question them on facts, details, and such. Didn’t Mittens say he wouldn’t have a foreign policy until elect?

      • Admiral_Komack
    • Miranda

      *crickets from pundits*

  • rikyrah

    Crazy Talk: Racism Reporters Are ‘Troublemakers’

    By: Jenée Desmond-Harris | Posted: June 5, 2012 at 2:57 PM

    What’s worse than racist treatment on the job? Being disciplined or even fired for bringing it up. But that, according to the National Black Police Association, is what’s happening to the United Kingdom’s black and Asian officers, the BBC reports. Apparently those who complain about discriminatory treatment have been labeled “troublemakers,” but a new report should help get to the bottom of who’s really causing problems within the force:

    Speaking to Radio 4’s File on 4 programme, President of the NBPA Charles Critchlow said:

    “I think the worst aspect is it appears that even senior officers are prepared to use instruments within the service, for example the disciplinary process, to put pressure on these officers and ultimately force them out of the organisation and that’s something that we’re very, very concerned about.”

    He added: “I think there still exists within the police service a pattern of behaviour where officers, particularly junior officers, who make a complaint or challenge inappropriate behaviour – particularly if it’s got anything to do with race – seem to be labelled as troublemakers.”

    The BBC has also seen an internal draft report, which shows police disciplinary procedures being used disproportionately against black and Asian officers in some forces.


    • Admiral_Komack

      THE BLAHS:


  • lamh35

    So a friend of mine tweeted about Don Rickles telling a racist joke about POTUS. My first thought was “wait Don Rickles is still alive”, my second thought was “isn’t racist jokes Rickles” thing anyway, and my final thought pretty much articulated really well by booman here:

    But Don Rickles Isn’t Funny
    by BooMan

    • Oh Rickles is funny. But it depends on whether you’re in the mood to hear it.

      • Ebogan63

        Somebody needs to tell BooMan to stop acting like Chris Hayes.

    • Admiral_Komack

      It’s Don Rickles.
      I don’t have a problem with the joke, and I think Don Rickles is funny.

  • rikyrah

    Just Dine With Sally Quinn Already

    by BooMan
    Sun Jun 10th, 2012 at 11:34:51 AM EST

    Not that they deserve it, but Sally Quinn and Ben Bradlee are so desperate to throw a party for the Obamas that maybe Barack and Michelle should relent and go along. Let me tell you how bad it is. Here’s Sally Quinn contemplating the idea that maybe it isn’t so bad after all that she can no longer “attend…five-course dinners a couple of nights a week, with a different wine for each course, served in a power-filled room of politicians, diplomats, White House officials and well-known journalists.” Read it and weep.

    Washington has become a community of small groups of people, mostly staying within their circles, occasionally making a foray out into the bigger world to large events, only to be turned off by the endless corporate “fundraiserness” of it all. How special can you feel when you know you have to pay to go to an event and then get a bad seat on top of that?

    Could it be that the Obamas, not knowing Washington, think that’s all there is to the social life here? Who wouldn’t want to stay away? On the other hand, he is the president of the United States and, whether he likes it or not, the leader of social as well as political Washington.

    But maybe this small-group trend is not such a bad thing. Maybe, as in one of those post-apocalyptic movies where the planet has been destroyed by war, people will begin to make their own lives.

    Every time a Democrat comes into the White House, Sally Quinn says that they “don’t know Washington.” I thought that maybe she had a point when Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton arrived on the scene. I mean, Jimmy Carter only spent five months (in 1952-53) living in the Washington area, which is hardly enough time to “know” the town. And Clinton interned with Senator Fulbright while earning his undergraduate degree from Georgetown. But, you know, what do college students know about power circles in Washington? As for President Obama, he only spent four years as a U.S. Senator before moving into the Oval Office. Being a senator doesn’t help you “know” Washington, either. Obviously.

    Sally Quinn’s planet has been destroyed by war. Maybe we should rename the Beltway as “Alderaan.” And I’d be more willing to credit her touching conclusion (about her smaller more meaningful dinner parties where people celebrate something other than money and power) if she didn’t compare her fate to that of Princess Leia. How many more times will Sally Quinn humiliate herself with complaints about her own irrelevance?

    To the Obamas, I say, please make it stop. Call up the Bradlee/Quinn house and invite yourselves over. Invite your kids, too. Stop the pain.


    • GOVCHRIS1988

      Oh hell no. Fuck that shit. BooMan probably can’t stand to see her suffer, but I love seeing an old dried up white woman just pleading to hang with Negroes she wouldn’t give two shits about otherwise. I LOVE IT!!!

    • Admiral_Komack

      OH, HELL NO!

      FUCK SALLY QUIM…uh, I mean QUINN.


    • Admiral_Komack

      OH, HELL NO!

      FUCK SALLY QUIM…uh, I mean QUINN.


    • danadevin74

      And thats what this whole thing is all about
      The Obama’s won’t come out to play

      • GN

        Why is she so pressed though? I’m telling yall, that song “Stan” keeps playing in my head when it comes to the weird way that some people view PBO and the First Lady.

        • conlakappa

          It validates her self-appointed role of doyenne of DC society. She thought the death of Pamela Harriman forever put her on the throne and she is to be bowed to. That she too gained the role through flat-backing is almost beside the point. Shouldn’t she and Ben be on a pepetual vacation or something?

          • GN

            “flat-backing”–lmao. You have such a way with words!

          • conlakappa

            I’m just saying only in DC could the hostess of note in two different generations = former jumpoffs. Ever read about her first job interview with Ben Bradlee? Nasty. I was being polite referring to her back!

          • GN

            Oh okay you were being polite with “flat-backing” lmao!! Sigh, really, so many people would love to have what Sally Quinn has. Tired of reading her complaints over nothing.

          • conlakappa

            You know me, play-cousin, that was me being polite. She’s stank. From her first whining column about them, she seriously stepped into self-parody and is sliding into pathos, as you astutely implied. Their son recentlty married. I think she’s bored and just looking for someone to pay atteniton to her. I guess Ben being editor emeritus means she gets a soap box by proxy.

          • Ce552001

            Unfortunately for her, the Obamas prefer the long forgotten poor and their kids in the D.C area who’d previously never been acknowledged by any other occupants in the WH.

          • conlakappa

            True. Calling it the people’s house and having more regular-people visitors than ever. I can almost hear Miss Sally getting her nose all out of shape when she read about the contest to have little chefs go to the White House. What about her personal chef? Her social needs?

    • GN

      What’s stopping her, right this minute, from putting together a series of entertaining dinners, perhaps highlighting struggling artists or fundraising for any number of excellent causes besides politicians? I really don’t get people like her. If I had that money, beautiful home, etc. without having to work like a dog, with lots of free time, no one would be able to tell me a damn thing. I would indeed be living it up and simply admiring the First Couple from afar while doing so. I can’t imagine caring that much that some politicians don’t want to join my social circuit. So what? Perhaps the Obamas like their peace and quiet; leave them alone.

      • Worldwatcher7

        Amen, Amen! I will never understand this kind of controlling mentality. She could be living it up, instead she is torturing herself trying to get the Obamas to bow down to her. At this point it just seems masochistic.

      • Miranda

        Sally Quinn can’t understand what is happening to her hoity-toity world. Folks going to dinner without white gloves and a single string of cultured pearls – inviting those trash celebrities and not pure blue bloods such as herself! The nerve!

        • GN

          There’s so much she can do; there are so many people she can help. I bet right this second, she has an elderly neighbor who would love some company and would love to have a dinner with her and hear all of her stories about DC people. Once you leave the world of fearing what other people think about you, a whole world of possibilities opens up. This Sally Quinn is a very lucky and privileged person; she needs to stop harrassing the Obamas and think about what she can do to help other people rather than selfishly obsessing about the first couple like they’re some kind of fashion accessory.

  • rikyrah

    Today in Wanton Malevolence

    by BooMan
    Sun Jun 10th, 2012 at 07:55:26 AM EST

    As if the Citizens United ruling were not malvolent enough, the House Republicans are seeking to make it worse. According to the Supreme Court in Citizens United, corporate spending does not distort the political process, give rise to the appearance of corruption, or undermine the people’s faith in democracy. Obviously, they are out of their minds, but a big part of their reasoning is that disclosure requirements should allow the people to see who is sending them a political message. To further that end, the FCC released new guidelines in late April.

    A new FCC guideline that would have forced the nation’s top television stations to list the funders behind political advertisements online.
    But the House Appropriations financial services subcommittee voted along party lines to prohibit the FCC from implementing their proposal to add another layer of transparency to the political ad process.

    We’re entitled to the information. According to the High Court of Antonin Scalia, this information protects us so much from the corrupting influence of corporate money that we should probably consider it to have superpowers. It’s this information that is keeping corporations and politicians honest, after all, and also allowing us to make informed choices.

    But, no, you can’t have it in a nice easy to search online form. No, you need to go down to the television stations on your own and request the records. You can see how easy that is here.

    This is the worst kind of collusion. The billionaires want to give anonymously. The Republicans want to protect the billionaires. The television stations want to keep it difficult to figure out what they’re charging for their ads. So, even though the law says this information must be publicly available, they work together to make it extremely burdensome for anyone to see it.


    • GOVCHRIS1988

      They are always like this. “Of course we want “wink*” transparency.”

  • rikyrah

    I found this comment over at TOD:

    June 10, 2012 at 8:33 am

    Good Morning TOD;

    I thought you might be interested in this summary of a Pollster’s Focus Group of Walmart Moms. They’re all Swing Voters; also known as low information voters:

    1.. Don’t underestimate the power of the first family’s image with female voters. More women discussed the first daughters more than some of President Barack Obama’s most pronounced policy initiatives aimed at female voters (no mention of Sandra Fluke, the Violence Against Women Act, even the administration’s contraception coverage policy). A young Richmond mother of one simply said, “Michelle is hearing what we have to say.” Another Richmond mom even remarked she believed the president watched out for her because he’s “surrounded by women” at home.

    2. The females in the focus groups were surprisingly risk averse — to the point it evoked thoughts of FDR’s 1944 re-election slogan “Don’t swap horses midstream.” More than one Richmond participant cited “maybe three years isn’t enough” to turn things around. Another particpant warned of a “learning period” if former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R) is elected. And a Las Vegas mom argued of Obama, “He’s already in place.” On the other hand, hardly a hand was raised when the Las Vegas women were questioned if they were better off economically than they were three years ago. These voters were generally disappointed in Obama, but they weren’t ready to make the switch yet.

    3. Romney remains largely undefined among these two groups. Millions of dollars later on the Nevada and Virginia airwaves, most of these women only knew a couple of things about the presumptive GOP nominee: He’s a businessman, family man and, per one Richmond participant, “a nice looking man.” It’s also worth noting that ads casting Romney’s former private equity firm, Bain Capital, in a negative light did ring a bell with a few women. As one Richmond woman described it, “Romney cut jobs when he was in charge of a factory.”

    • GOVCHRIS1988

      Thats what I’m seeing too. Many know this country is jacked up because of the policies of Republicans and many of the states that voted in 2010 are still seeing those detrimental policies that Willard is touting and even if they are disappointed with the POTUS, they aren’t ready to change it up and put the walking dead into office.

    • Admiral_Komack

      The sky is falling!!!
      We’re doomed, DOOMED, I tell you!!!
      -mantra of The Professional Left.

    • GN

      Team PBO know what they’re doing IMO. They are doing everything humanly possible to appeal to the electorate that we must vote in our best interests and return Dems to power in November. Whether the electorate makes that rational choice or not, Team PBO is doing everything possible to help us. Not surprised to see the Bain information gaining traction either. Just as you noted, rikyrah, the issue is not free enterprise or basic capitalism; the issue is *vulture* capitalism and its sometimes exploitative and inhumane view of the workforce. Glad that the Obama/Biden campaign did not drop this conversation at the urging of the beltway media.

      • conlakappa

        For the first time this season, I saw an ad from the campaign today: what stood out was that he says in the beginning that it is his ad and he approves the message. Rove an’em muddy the waters instead of chumming them, I think, with their ads that are from some shadowy front group. The group claims to be one thing in the voice-over message but then there’s a different name on the bottom of the screen.

    • goldenstar


      Thanks for bringing this forward!

      There is a lot more nuance and complexity to the voters. What’s really interesting is that these women are voting for PBO and not what the media is inferring…

    • itgurl_29

      And that why, as much as I can’t stand Barbara Walters and Elizabitch Hasselbeck, POTUS stays going on the View. He gets to be his charming self and talk about his wife and kids. Those stay at home moms love that stuff.

  • rikyrah

    Republican Governor calls for abolition of public sector unions. |

    Appearing this morning on Fox News Sunday, Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels called for the elimination of public sector unions. Huffington Post reports: “Wallace… asked whether Daniels would like to see public-sector unions disappear entirely. ‘I think government works better without them, I really do,’ Daniels replied.” In 2005, Daniels signed an executive order that “eliminated collective bargaining rights for government workers.” As a result, workers in the state “receive lowers salaries and must pay higher health care costs.”


  • rikyrah

    Mounting Debt Suddenly a Problem
    By Jonathan Salant

    For Karl Rove, now the debt’s a problem.

    Crossroads GPS, the nonprofit co-founded by the former Bush White House political adviser that keeps its donors secret, announced today that it will spend $7 million attacking President Barack Obama for failing to tackle the growing national debt.

    Against a backdrop of a ticking stopwatch, a narrator warns that Obama is adding $4 billion in new debt every day.

    Rove, of course, experienced first-hand a sharp increase in the national debt. The day his former boss, George W. Bush, was sworn in as president in 2001, the national debt was $5.7 trillion. When Bush (and Rove) left the White House, the debt had grown to $10.6 trillion, an 86 percent increase, according to the U.S. Treasury Department.

    Former Vice President Dick Cheney suggested that “Reagan proved deficits don’t matter” at a meeting of the president’s economic team, according to an account by former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill.

    On June 1 of this year, the debt was $15.7 trillion, a 48 percent increase over what Obama inherited. And yes, it does grow in mulitbillion-dollar leaps each day.

    (You can track the debt day by day yourself at the Treasury’s Web-site.)

    Now the deficit matters to Rove and Crossroads.

    “While Europe is in the throes of debt-fueled economic crisis, President Obama keeps spending and charging more on the nation’s maxed-out credit cards,” said Steven Law, president of Crossroads GPS.

    While the debt rose under Obama, almost half of it can be attributed to two Bush policies, his tax cuts and deficit-funded wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities in Washington.

    For all the talk about the debt, Rove’s group wants to continue all of the Bush tax cuts, as well as eliminate the estate tax on multimillionaires. Crossroads GPS doesn’t offer any specific spending cuts to pay for these policies.


  • rikyrah

    The #Doingfine Smear Against Obama: What’s Behind the Media Obsession
    Friday, June 08, 2012 | Posted by Deaniac83 at 3:13 PM

    Republicans apparently had a field day today because the President said, in a press conference, that “the private sector is doing fine.” At least, that is the cut-quote you will see in the media and from Republicans ad infinitum from now on till the Sunday talk shows and probably beyond. But there’s a reason why. And it’s not the one the media is telling you. The reason the media is going to be obsessed with that cut-out of the president’s press conference is not, as they would like you to think, that it was Obama’s ‘big gaffe.’ It’s what came before and after those words, that the Republicans and the right-wing-lapdog media doesn’t want you to hear or pay attention to.

    Luckily, we have access to the transcript.

    THE PRESIDNET: […] What I’ve said is, let’s make long-term spending cuts; let’s initiate long-term reforms; let’s reduce our health care spending; let’s make sure that we’ve got a pathway, a glide-path to fiscal responsibility, but at the same time, let’s not underinvest in the things that we need to do right now to grow. And that recipe of short-term investments in growth and jobs with a long-term path of fiscal responsibility is the right approach to take for, I think, not only the United States but also for Europe.

    Q What about the Republicans saying that you’re blaming the Europeans for the failures of your own policies?

    THE PRESIDENT: The truth of the matter is that, as I said, we’ve created 4.3 million jobs over the last 27 months, over 800,000 just this year alone. The private sector is doing fine. Where we’re seeing weaknesses in our economy have to do with state and local government — oftentimes, cuts initiated by governors or mayors who are not getting the kind of help that they have in the past from the federal government and who don’t have the same kind of flexibility as the federal government in dealing with fewer revenues coming in.

    And so, if Republicans want to be helpful, if they really want to move forward and put people back to work, what they should be thinking about is, how do we help state and local governments and how do we help the construction industry. Because the recipes that they’re promoting are basically the kinds of policies that would add weakness to the economy, would result in further layoffs, would not provide relief in the housing market, and would result, I think most economists estimate, in lower growth and fewer jobs, not more.

    Read that again. 4.3 million private sector jobs. Nearly 900,000 alone this year. Contrast with this: even today, Mitt Romney is going around saying that people who lost jobs as teachers, firefighters and public safety officers – thus putting our children and community at a greater danger – deserved what they got.

    In the context of severe public sector job losses – that is, job losses for teachers, police officers and firefighters – ushered in by Republican governors and doubled down by DC-Republican refusal to send additional federal help to keep teachers employed and construction workers working and building our infrastructure – the private sector is in fact doing relatively fine. So much so, in fact, that an analysis by that liberal oasis Wall Street Journal shows that the unemployment rate would be at 7.1% without the public sector job losses that the Republicans forced.


  • rikyrah

    Jonathan Chait explains it all: the GOP’s all-in gamble for 2012
    June 10, 2012 ·

    The last sentence of Jonathan Chait’s must-read article in the New Yorker is just the beginning:

    The deepest effect of Obama’s election upon the Republicans’ psyche has been to make them truly fear, for the first time since before Ronald Reagan, that the future is against them.

    Cair explains how Republicans responded to the election of President Obama and the demographic nightmare awaiting them; and why they are gambling everything on 2012.

    Read the whole thing here.

    • Admiral_Komack

      Thank you for this.

      While I was reading this, I was thinking:

      Willard is trapped by the inmates that are running the asylum; he can’t really talk about Romneycare, ’cause the inmates will see Obamacare, and get riled up; he can’t or doesn’t want to moderate his views.

      Or, maybe he isn’t trapped.

      • Camille

        But Willard Romney is actually one on the inmates himself.

        He is just as sick and twisted and every bit as deluded and entitled as the Tea party assholes.

        The only difference is that he has a degree or two from Havard and advocates racism through the prism of the Mormon church.

  • rikyrah

    June 10, 2012 10:37 AM
    Health Care Race to the Bottom

    By Ed Kilgore

    By now we should all understand that if you put together GOP plans to repeal the Affordable Care Act and also “block-grant” Medicaid, tens of millions of Americans would quickly lose access to affordable health care. If you buy the conservative health care philosophy, and/or believe Republican claims of interest in something approaching universal health coverage, some of these unfortunate people might regain access to minimal levels of care via high-risk pools and tax credits. But that’s obviously not a very high priority for the GOP, which according to its own rhetoric is more interested in holding down health care costs by encouraging “individual responsibility” (i.e., paying your own medical bills) for health treatments and outcomes.

    But aside from the issue of the Republican Party’s “market-based vision” of the overall health care system, its commitment to a devolution of responsibility for public health care programs affecting low- and middle-class Americans who have not reached retirement age has its own destructive dynamics. At The Incidental Economist, my friend Harold Pollack makes the essential but rarely understood point on this subject:

    States have long worried about becoming “welfare magnets,” attracting poor people to make similar moves. There is a lively empirical debate about how often this actually occurs. Poor people are less mobile than you might think. As a political matter, no state wants to become a magnet for such inflows. From a national perspective, this dynamic promotes a “race to the bottom,” in which states seek to offer less generous benefits than they otherwise would. This race to the bottom is reinforced by deep ideological and economic differences across state lines.

    Before Social Security and Medicare, these same debates once occurred regarding state efforts to help impoverished or sick elderly people who could no longer care for themselves. Today, no politician would self-immolate by suggesting the block-granting Medicare or otherwise devolving supports for seniors to state governments.

    We have not achieved the same consensus regarding health care for poor people or the disabled. In 1965, Medicaid established national minimum benefits, and provided national resources. ACA expanded these national commitments, devoting federal resources to finance near-universal coverage. On the surface, the health reform fight includes technocratic disputes over budget estimates and over which level of government is best-equipped to provide needed services. The real fight is much deeper than that.

    There’s a remarkable historical inversion going on in this GOP effort to unravel a national commitment to low-income health care, by the way: what ultimately became “Medicaid” began as the Republican Party’s alternative to the universal, national health care system first promoted by Harry Truman and eventually established, for seniors only, in Medicare. Now Republicans claim to be championing Medicare (although simultaneously unraveling it via various efforts to cap or voucherize benefits and privatize its insurance function) by pitting it against ACA and Medicaid.

    There is a natural partisan-political and ideological affinity for today’s Republicans to pursue this old folks versus poor folks strategy, of course. With the two parties increasingly polarized by age and race/ethnicity, GOPers have every political reason to place the vitiation of Medicare (and for that matter, Social Security) on the back burner, and treat health care for non-seniors as “welfare,” designed for those improvident and/or darker people, to be devolved to the tender mercies and inflexible budgets of state goverments. (Yes, a big portion of Medicaid spending goes to long-term care for the elderly, but not necessarily the elderly who vote Republican).

    But beyond the brutal generational politics of the matter, Republican efforts to treat Medicare and Medicaid so very differently relies on the belief of many seniors that the former is an “earned benefit” or a self-funded program (via payroll taxes and premiums, which only cover about half of Medicare benefits) while the latter is a “redistribution” program or “welfare.” This is the flaw in the conviction of some progressives that “Medicare for all” is the winning magic formula for achieving universal health coverage: few conservative seniors will support “Medicare for all” if it includes those people who haven’t “earned” it or paid for it.

    In any event, Republican fiscal and health care proposals would decisively decouple health care treatment of the elderly and the poor/disabled (along with the middle-class uninsured that would be covered via ObamaCare) and send the latter straight into a race-to-the-bottom negative competition among states that is sure to ratchet down coverage, particularly as federal cost-sharing is steadily reduced (as the Ryan Budget would guarantee). It’s an aspect of the health care and budget debates that deserves vastly more attention than it has yet received from either party.


  • rikyrah

    June 09, 2012 12:07 PM
    Concern Trolling in the Times

    By Ryan Cooper

    On Twitter Bill Keller, former executive editor of the New York Times, flagged a piece by Steve Almond titled “Liberals Are Ruining America. I Know Because I Am One,” saying it was “Must-read liberal introspection.” Boy, I thought to myself, I bet this is going to be terrible.


    This, to be blunt, is the tragic flaw of the modern liberal. We choose to see ourselves as innocent victims of an escalating right-wing fanaticism. But too often we serve as willing accomplices to this escalation and to the resulting degradation of our civic discourse. We do this, without even meaning to, by consuming conservative folly as mass entertainment…

    Of course, not all right-wing pundits spew hate. But the ones who do are the ones we liberals dependably aggrandize. Consider the recent debate over whether employers must cover contraception in their health plans. The underlying question — should American women receive help in protecting themselves from unwanted pregnancies? — is part of a serious and necessary national conversation.

    Any hope of that conversation happening was dashed the moment Rush Limbaugh began his attacks on Sandra Fluke, the young contraceptive advocate. The left took enormous pleasure in seeing Limbaugh pilloried. To what end, though? Industry experts noted that his ratings actually went up during the flap. In effect, the firestorm helped Limbaugh do his job, at least in the short term.

    So, liberals are entirely to blame for the popularity and influence of conservative hate-mongers. Check. Anything else?

    Media outlets like MSNBC and The Huffington Post often justify their coverage of these voices by claiming to serve as watchdogs. It would be more accurate to think of them as de facto loudspeakers for conservative agitprop. The demagogues of the world, after all, derive power solely from their ability to provoke reaction. Those liberals (like me) who take the bait, are to blame for their outsize influence.

    Even programs that seek to inject some levity into our rancorous political theater run on the same noxious fuel. What would “The Daily Show” and “The Colbert Report” be without the fulminations of Fox News and the rest of the right-wing hysterics?

    Got it. And the cure, of course, is for liberals to simply ignore the likes of Limbaugh, so they’ll be locked into the echo chamber. Problem solved.

    Let’s set aside the fact that the premise here is stale. This argument has been hashed and re-hashed in the blogosphere for the last ten years—are we hurting the cause by giving attention to the demagogues, or helping it by drawing attention to their craziness?—the consensus being: well, it depends. Let’s also set aside that blaming liberals for the influence of Limbaugh totally ignores the agency of conservatives, who have been paying fealty to him and his ilk for years, and is barely a whisker shy of blaming the firefighter instead of the arsonist.

    Nope, the most interesting part is that it’s just straight-up wrong. Almond is so invested in his narcissistic victim-blaming that he didn’t seem to consider the idea that the very project of drawing attention to The Crazy is working out quite well recently. He says Limbaugh’s ratings are up, which seems to be wrong (no link, so I can’t check his numbers), but he also lost advertisers in unprecedented numbers. Backlash from the Heartland Institute’s climate denier billboard campaign featuring Ted Kaczynski crippled the organization. Komen’s attempt to cut funding to Planned Parenthood was a massive failure and has badly tarnished their brand and their donations, probably irreversibly. The shadowy conservative group ALEC took a major hit from being the author of the “stand your ground” laws in Florida and elsewhere, also losing lots of corporate support. And so forth.

    In short, giving conservative hatemongers a little push onto their own swords seems to be working like magic. Might have been something to consider in the piece, or at least address, but apparently not.


  • MonieTalks

    After Wisconsin Vote: Cheers, Jeers And November Fears

    …..Progressives hope that forward determination will carry on through November, where activists agree they are facing another tough fight. Peace activist Marta Turnbell of Boulder, Colo., supported President Obama four years ago, but she told fellow activists she’s less enthusiastic about the president this year. She’s disappointed by what she calls “missed opportunities.”

    (At the Nutroots Nation)

    But in a keynote speech, New York Attorney Eric Schneiderman said if they want to avoid such disappointments, they need to keep the heat on politicians.

    “Progressives have a tendency to elect someone and then you go home. The conservatives never go home,” Schneiderman said. “They’re there kicking their own guys in the back … Let’s learn from our mistakes; keep pushing, keep fighting.”

    read: http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/06/09/154629459/after-wisconsin-vote-cheers-jeers-and-november-fears

    • MonieTalks

      Keep an eye on NY Attorney General Eric Schneiderman. He has been a great surrogate so far for PBO. And he’s simply just telling the truth.

      Check it:

      Schneiderman equated the economic policies of Republican nominee Mitt Romney to George W. Bush, and said our current economic malaise “didn’t happen because of El Nino. This didn’t happen because we’re being punished for our sins.”

      The former state senator has gained national attention, including a trip to the State of the Union address, for his work investigating major financial institutions’ role in the housing market collapse. He spoke during a reception at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel, as dutifully recorded by pool reporter Celeste Katz.

      “As I travel around the state and other parts of the country, I am extremely confident that we’re going to win, that our President’s vision will prevail, and that the American people will see the Republican agenda for what it is.

      “Sooner or later, people do take a look at what the candidates are saying and what they stand for&hellipWe tried their agenda and we ended up in wars we couldn’t get out of, in an economy that was in a state of collapse and we lost $7.4 trillion in home equity, the wealth of the middle class.

      “We know the Republican agenda is a recipe for disaster, dysfunction, injustice and inequality and the voters will know that too by Election Day.”


      • GN

        Yes, he’s accomplished, well-spoken, and has a good, even-keeled head on his shoulders. I disagree with him that the netroots needs to kick politicians more (that’s all they do and they have nothing to show for it), but he’s generally on point.

        • Ebogan63

          Yeah, like woody says, the Dems need to stop treating the nutroots as being important, cuz they are not. Majority of folks I come in contact volunteering have not heard of these foolz.

          • This is what I’m talking about. 98% of Obama’s base has never heard of these people.What’s their strategy to get more Dems elected and fundraise? At this point in time that’s all that matters. If they can’t answer that question (which they never have) then I ain’t interested.

    • GN

      If these people don’t get how their childish “disappointments” play such a huge role in regressives maintaining power decade after decade despite the unpopularity of their ideas, these people are simply hopeless. It’s not merely about keeping heat on politicians as Schneiderman suggests. Some “progressives” have done absolutely nothing but bitch and moan nonstop while inverting their realities to the point at which PBO is now the second coming of Bush. It’s about having the fortitude and discipline to keep kicking the ball down the road, inch by inch, even if utopia is not gained in an instant. It’s about having the maturity and long-sightedness to not run to the media declaring “disappointment” etc. during a crucial election year. The nutroots is a waste of time and energy IMO.

      • caribbeanobserver

        The most important thing about the Dems,to me, is the loyalty factor, or, should I say, the lack thereof. Sure, I might think a,b,and c, but I do not go out there in public and talk about disappointment,deride and chide,simply because of the consequences of the corrupt media quick turn around spin. And, then have the nerve to say that I am definitely for PBO…but!! These people have to learn PARTY LOYALTY,and learn also how to frame and respond to questions.

        • GN

          Exactly, and it’s ironic that these same people will turn around and ding the WH re: communications strategy.

      • Camille

        I also do have a problem with this “keeping heat on the politicians” bit too.

        And only because it is predictably interpreted by these folks as meaning to publicly disrespect and attack President Obama as opposed to calling out and rallying AGAINST the actual obstructionists – the republicans and the sneaky democrats who support and enable them.

        So, as much as I appreciate the mild effort on Schneiderman’s part, I can’t help but be suspicious of even him and all of the others catering to the PL’s in the hopes that they will in turn help prop him up for some national office run.

        Frankly, there does not seem to be anyone out there in the Democratic party capable of just temporarily putting aside their political calculations for future run and speaking strongly and honestly about what is actually going on. And until one does so, I am withholding any accolades or support for them and focusing squarely on re-electing my awesome President.

    • Alma98

      You know what I live here in WI; we are not demoralized or running around slitting our wrist. Did they even notice that the day after the election the union and their allies had a protest? But of course the damn occupy folks came along and ruined it. They left after ows started challenging the police. I’m still getting emails about what they’re going to do next. And their #1 goal is to get PBO reelected. So they can sit in a corner with their thumbs in their mouth if they want to, but we’ve moved on.

      • GN

        The netroots gets a lot of media attention, but they are not a real representation the base of the Democratic party. Indeed, ows is probably the best boots-on-the-ground representation of the netroots and we can see the netroots’ lack of focus, epic strategical failures, counterproductive need for instant gratification, and hand-to-mouth politicking on display there. If ows hasn’t convinced Democratic politicians to put the netroots on ignore, I don’t know what will. Because their actual base does not share the same priorities and prerogatives. The netroots is most effective in putting a lot of negativity into the media; otherwise, they’re kinda useless…

        • Why do we have to pretend every year that these people are important?

          • gc

            Who is “we?” My first clue that I might like this blog POU (WSY, then) was their disdain for the “Nut Roots” as someone called them the other day. You guys must err occasionally, but I’ve yet to see it. My guess is having been through the fires and survived has a lot to do with your more mature perspective.

        • Admiral_Komack


          They are useless…totally.

    • Thank you Mr. Schneiderman! He’s speaking truth!

    • conlakappa

      Missed opportunities? Grow the hell up, Marta. But she no doubt got a round of applause in that crowd.

      • Ebogan63

        Hell, these people neva miss an opportunity to stay irrelevant

        • Camille

          And most of these assholes NEVER supported President Obama, let alone “enthusiastically”.

          They think that if they cast themselves as “disappointed formerly enthusiastic supporters” that somehow their continued attacks and them might somehow be seen as credible.

          Phonies and losers the whole lot of them.

          We still see you assholes!

    • Camille

      Oh fuck off Marta, whoever hell you are.

      Another self-important, bloviating nobody.

  • Miranda

    From This Week transcript:

    Santorum: What we need to do is have education reform, not throw more money at teachers. And Mitt Romney understands that.

    STEPHANOPOULOS: It would lower unemployment, wouldn’t? It would lower unemployment, wouldn’t it?

    SANTORUM: Actually, it doesn’t. I mean, there are several studies out there, George, that shows for every 100,000 increase in public sector employment, there’s 150,000 decrease in private sector employment. That money that you’re paying teachers, this money that you’re paying public sector employees comes from somewhere, and it comes out of the private sector, and it tends to hurt job creation there, and actually the net effect is less jobs.


    • Make this sweater vest challenged clown prove it. Make him name the studies.

      • Miranda

        And as predicted, there was no real questioning of Romney’s remarks about public employees OR his telling employers to tell their employees how to vote.

        • But Georgie Porgie kept pressing Axe about PBO saying the private sector is doing fine, which is the truth.

      • rikyrah

        just like he when he said they didn’t teach American History at the University of California.

        • conlakappa

          He is big on putting forth fact-free facts, often with percentages.

    • GN

      Ugly look for the GOP that someone this fringe is a bona fide and respected surrogate for their presidential candidate. What he’s saying doesn’t even make sense, and I’m with woody: I’m gonna need to the receipts for that “study.”

  • GN

    Re: another open letter to PBO, I love bwd, but IMO she’s really gotta stop reading dkos. That letter reminds me of the stuff slinkerwink used to pull, and it didn’t do anything but get people fighting amongst themselves and increase the anxiety levels. I think that people should send campaign suggestions directly to the campaign (they’re outright soliciting suggestions right now in fact), and get involved with OFA. If something which the campaign is doing ups the anxiety, make a donation (that’s what I did when I was worried about PBO’s SSM announcement energizing the religious right–donated, and eventually felt a LOT better).

    I think that people really do rely on theobamadiary to have a place to decompress and just celebrate and enjoy the absolute beauty of Barack and Michelle Obama living at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue (I personally can never get enough of the pictures). There aren’t enough places to just do nothing but celebrate the real joy in that. I hope that chipsticks focuses on that as a central mission, because she’s really great at curating beautiful galleries of pics and speeches. Much love to everyone, Happy Sunday!

    • Admiral_Komack

      Could somebody give bwd a Oval Office set for Christmas?

      • crazycanuck

        Would someone abandon her on an island and only rescue her after November. Please

        • Admiral_Komack

          Psst…if we get her aboard the SS Minnow…and tell her it’s a three-hour tour…

          • danadevin74

            Thanks for making me laugh today LOL

      • GN

        She just needs to stop reading dkos and listening to Markos. All he does is insist that Dems listen to his ideas, and if they don’t he’ll use his blog and high media platform to trash them. PBO’s real “offense” is that he doesn’t take marching orders from these self-important freaks in the nutroots. That’s why they can’t stand him—he didn’t really hire their people to build his web presence; he sidestepped that entire clique and built the social media arm of OFA on his own. That’s why they’re pissed; it has nothing to do with policy IMO. BWD and others need to remember that when listening to and forwarding their stupid complaints about campaign strategy. The netroots doesn’t have a good track record at all with winning elections, and these people are extremely self-motivated.

      • Miranda


    • She wrote another open letter??

      I’m beginning to think she’s doing this for attention.

      • GN

        Yes, and chipsticks promoted it. It was about the campaign messaging. I honestly don’t think it’s about attention-seeking, but it really is some dkos stuff in terms of being overly concerned about high level campaign strategy when indeed the cure to worrying is to donate and/or volunteer with OFA. If that organization has the resources which it needs, we don’t need to worry about the media (media’s a lost cause in terms of trying to get our messaging perfect through them–they really want a horserace).

        • I heard about the campaign message open letter. I thought she wrote another one after that.

          • GN

            No, I’m just late to this. Sorry for the confusion.

        • caribbeanobserver

          I think that she means well,but she allows herself to get over anxious,fearful and hyper, which spills over into her offerings, when SHE considers things are not going well. Chips remains loyal to her, even though she knows it will stir up a lot of conflict on TOD.
          But the more appropriate thing would be to allow people to comment on her site,instead of disabling comments, and then she would have to find the courage to spar with them, and also the TOD commenters will not get so riled up.The fact is people tune in to Chips because as you said of the photos, the humour, the factual information and the positive vibes.

          • GN

            That’s probably best. I think that people are serious about wanting positive spaces; a lot of us migrated away from some of the large sites for precisely this reason. If emoprogs want to sit around and pyche each other out, and be morose and miserable all of the time, it’s a free country, but there’s a real cost to the abandonment of positivity and optimism. I honestly can’t see how they get stuff done like that. But whatever, I’d just love for it to not make its way over to the positive spaces, and I hope that bwd stops reading the netroots and cheers up!

      • Admiral_Komack

        “Look at me, look at meeee!”

    • dannie22

      Do we really know where BWD lives? Maybe she’s writing these letters from a mental ward.

      • GN

        I think this is really just the netroots spreading doom and gloom everywhere because they have an axe to grind against PBO for very selfish reasons. I think that people like bwd read those spaces credulously and don’t realize how much drama and foolishness is going on in the back end. Places like dkos have more games being played than Parker Brothers. I don’t read it, and I really don’t like seeing their obsession with nebulous things like messaging or national conversation etc. make their way into the generally ultra-positive pragmatic blogs which are full of donors and volunteers. I hope that bwd goes back to normal; I really did use to enjoy her blog so much.

        • Miranda

          I would think it would be very tiring to be that melodramatic all the time. In a constant state of a shakespearean play. LOL

          • GN

            Seriously, the netroots likes the depression, this is their natural state: everything’s awful and going to hell because nobody will listen to them. This is why we named them emoprogs. It’s just accurate lol.

          • gc

            Oldest cliche in the book: Misery loves company. Oldest cliche of Psych 101: Anger is depression turned outward.”

            I think TOD is an excellent site, just not for me.

          • conlakappa

            And a worn-out fainting couch at this point. Smelling salts are flying off the shelves.

        • Camille

          But for someone who others want to pin so much faith on and for some reason want to be led by, this BWD person can’t be terribly astute.

          You just can’t mindlessly absorb that PL crap, let it skew and persistently mess with your mind and consequent actions, and expect to be taken seriously by smart people?

          Sorry, not buying it.

          You just can’t keep running with the mindset and talking points of the same folks who consistently made an ass of you – communicating and transferring their and your angst to and effectively disrupting the few safer, more positive spaces of refuge left for us.

          I still say that if she has an honest need to and must unburden and wants honest debate – like she seems to insist on TOD, then stop dropping PL shit bombs on TOD, restart her fucking blog and enable comments.

          She’ll get more than enough healthy debate then. She just shouldn’t get to drive and redefine the original goal of a perfectly positive and helpful site that served an entirely different purpose.

          I’m mad as hell mostly because I can no longer send non-political folks that need positive re-enforcement without the nitty gritty to TOD for the gentle support it provided. What a loss!

          It’s now the same negative questionable shit that is to be found everywhere.
          Thanks to BWD and her never ending shit.

          And that seriously pisses me off.

        • Miranda

          Maybe its just me….but I literally go to TOD all the time to look at the videos and pictures and never even noticed that there WERE comments for months. LOL, I honestly never think to comment. I have one or two times but that’s really it. I just go for the video and pics. I think that’s what everybody ought to do.

      • gc

        Nah, I know from psych units. There are fine people with horrible drug-resistant illnesses there. I believe BWD’s ego just grew outlandishly large after being adored by so many. And I cannot be certain how she feels about AA’s in power.

        My husband, who knows the BWD saga from me, thinks she may be a mole, an excellent one. I think she is just fragile and politics pushed her one step too far. Between believing her own publicity and being oversensitive and feeling some ownership over BHO, a godawful mess. It would probably be better for TOD if CS weren’t so loyal to her.

        Anyway, none of this matters in the grand scheme of things. And Mad Men’s finale is tonight.

      • trose1


      • TresL

        That made me laugh out loud. I am so glad I wasn’t drinking anything. Too funny. Maybe she should get rid of her television and join OFA.

  • Jeremy

    Alright so I haven’t been on the blog in a few days and I see some Obama supporters complaining about the Obama campaign and the “messaging”. All I have to say is please stop !

    Right now Obama is ahead in the majority of states, and the fundraising numbers continue to be high and really good. And I can go on and on. First of all Axelrod and Plouffe have won a lot of elections and there team plotted the successful election of the first African American president. I am tired of people calling the president and his election team naive.

    • gc

      They are not Republicans, they may not be concern trolls, but I won’t call them Obama supporters anymore. You want to support him, try a little RESPECT.

      • Camille

        Amen gc, Amen!

    • conlakappa

      Right? I used to asj people on the orange how many if them had ever won an election for anything beyond treasurer of third grade.

  • Miranda

    Our media is so full of intentional fail. Just a complete and utter joke.

  • Miranda

    I am just too tickled….I started laughing right here (the first line):

    One of our objectives at The Winning Words Project is to help our elected officials, including (and especially!) the president, articulate the Progressive story so that it:

  • moved

  • Miranda

    Afternoon thread is up!