October 22, 2017

Sunday Open Thread: P.O.U. Sunday Jazz Brunch

GOOD MORNING P.O.U.! We hope you’re enjoying your weekend!

As you partake in your Sunday breakfast/brunch, enjoy the sounds of The Modern Jazz Quartet


The Modern Jazz Quartet (MJQ) was an influential music group established in 1952 and for most of their long career composed of John Lewis (piano, musical director), Milt Jackson (vibraphone), Percy Heath (double bass), and Connie Kay (drums).

Initially a side project for personnel from trumpeter Dizzy Gillespie’s hard-swinging big band, the MJQ gradually became a full-time endeavor and one of the more prominent jazz bands of the post-WWII era. Under Lewis’s leadership they carved their own niche by specializing in an elegant, restrained music (touching on bebop, cool jazz, third stream and classical music) that used sophisticated counterpoint yet nonetheless retained a strong blues feel. They introduced several jazz standards, including “Django” and “Bags’ Groove”.

Initially active into the 1970s until Jackson quit due to creative disagreement and frustration with their busy touring schedule, the MJQ reformed intermittently into the 1990s.

*SOURCE: Wikipedia*


“Softly As In A Morning Sunrise”





  • dannie22

    good morning all!!

  • GN

    Excellent WaPo article which dispenses with the PR/branding/marketing from the PL and instead writes truth about President Obama’s career-long attentiveness to income inequality.

    Obama is the first president in the modern era to focus so much on economic inequality. Democratic predecessors concentrated more on poverty, such as Lyndon Johnson’s “Great Society” and Bill Clinton’s tax credit for the working poor. But Johnson also lowered taxes on the wealthy, and Clinton, having increased taxes early in his term, cut capital gains taxes in his second term, benefiting richer Americans who had substantial income from investments.

    Arriving at the White House amid a threat of a second Great Depression, Obama’s first major piece of legislation was an $800 billion stimulus bill to boost the sinking economy. Although it was not sold or viewed as an attack on income inequality, it was precisely that.

    The legislation cut taxes in a way that most benefited the middle and lower class, increased safety-net payments for poor Americans, and launched construction projects that helped create jobs for working-class Americans. Obama funded the stimulus package through more federal borrowing, a bill that’s now coming due — and one he’s hoping to pay with new tax revenue provided by the wealthy. “We want our children to live in an America that isn’t . . . weakened by inequality,” he declared in his victory speech on the night of his reelection.


    I don’t have to tell anyone here how major players in the lefty media, loaded with their own agendas, have blatantly lied about and distorted President Obama’s *actions* taken to address income equality with a special focus on impoverished Americans. They have lied about his ideas, and they have lied about his policy successes, instead painting a picture of a weak POTUS kowtowing to the right and lacking a moral imperative until ows “forced” or “led” him to care about widening economic divisions and the hazards those divisions create.

    Nice to see the truth printed instead of that PL marketing.

    The article is a really excellent one in its entirety and more than worth the read. There was a note about PBO’s discussion with Rev. Wright years ago in which they engaged in the classic debate re: class versus racial inequality. I found myself agreeing more with Rev. Wright (“Cops don’t check my bank account when they pull me over”)–addressing income inequality will be insufficient with regards to addressing black liberation. But just a good, solid article with lots of food for thought and conversation points.

    • jds09

      This is why I give Bill Clinton the side-eye…

      “But Johnson also lowered taxes on the wealthy, and Clinton, having increased taxes early in his term, cut capital gains taxes in his second term, benefiting richer Americans who had substantial income from investments.”

      As a person who works in the nonprofit/philanthropic community, I know the very rich are NOT generous, relative to their wealth. Their money has a lot of strings attached to it; its the middle class and the upper middle class that’s the backbone of philanthropic funding.

      IMO, the Clinton speech at the Democratic Convention was penance for how he fucked this country kissing the asses of the rich. The Clinton Global Initiative means little to me, he did it to make up for past sins and to keep up his and his benefactors profiles in the world.

      • conlakappa

        But according to on of the East Coast papers [WashPost or NY Times, I cannot recall], Clinton is supposed to teach the President about how to deal with Israel. I guess a reasonable Rabin, who was then assassinated by someone spurred by the rhetoric of Bibi, is totally analogous to the changed times and globe and dealing with Bibi now. One day they’ll stop acting as if the President is an unlearned child but will he be 70 when that happens?

        • jds09

          One of the things that keeps me sane is that history will treat PBO very well. Historians are already placing him in the top tier. I kinda feel sorry for the president that comes after PBO, he or she will have tremendous shoes to fill. “If that Negro president could do it, why can’t you.” lol

    • conlakappa

      Thanks for pointing it out. As you know, that is my local rag. I didn’t notice this article though.

  • GN

    Michael Tomasky on How John McCain Humiliated Himself on Susan Rice

    We don’t yet really know as a society what a person has to do to completely and utterly cancel out a record of war heroism, but we may be about to find out. If this CBS News report is even close to accurate, John McCain’s arguments of the last few weeks about Susan Rice are thrashingly demolished. He has, or should have, zero credibility now on this issue. It will be fascinating to see if he emerges from the holiday weekend subtly chastened, attempting to shift gears a bit, or whether he keeps the pedal to the paranoid metal. He’s getting toward the sunset of what was once a reasonably distinguished career, a career (if we count his time in Vietnam) that began in the highest honor and has now descended into the darkest farce.


    • creolechild

      Good morning GN and POU. And, yes, he went there! Demonstrating that four years later he’s STILL holding a grudge because he lost and doesn’t care if he’s making a fool of himself in the process.

      McCain: Obama’s The Problem, Not Ambassador Rice

      Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said that the problem with the administration’s response to the Benghazi attacks has more to do with President Obama than with UN Ambassador Susan Rice, during an appearance on “Fox News Sunday,” even though congressional Republicans, including McCain, have gone after Rice in recent weeks.

      [….] Responding to a follow-up question on whether that means McCain is now open to voting for Rice if nominated, McCain replied: “I think she deserves the ability and the opportunity to explain herself and her position, just as she said. But she’s not the problem. The problem is the president of the United States who in a debate with Mitt Romney said that he had said it was a terrorist attack…”

      Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/mccain-obamas-problem-not-ambassador-rice

      H/T Pema Levy

      • Kadijo

        That comment as got to be about saving face. Crowley almost got fired for debunking Romney’s lies about “act of terror” in the Rose Garden.

        • creolechild

          Mmmm…maybe so but notice how he’s trying to revive the lie about PBO not using the word “terror” in any form or fashion which as you pointed out was thoroughly debunked. Keep digging deeper, John McCain…keep on digging deeper.

    • Aquagranny911

      McCain is making a total fool of himself over this. He is really showing his bitterness over losing to PBO & the look of it gets uglier every time he opens his mouth. I have read several LTEs in our local papers calling for him to STFU.

      I have begun to wonder more & more if he has beginning Alzheimer’s disease. His behavior reminds me of that of a neighbor of ours who went through a time of unreasonable rage initially & then slowly declined.

      • conlakappa

        Remember that we learned in 2008 that he is on a lot of meds. Those have to have long-term effects, with the counter-indications getting no better with time.

  • GreenLadyHere
  • jds09

    Good Morning Everybody!

    I spent every summer as a child in MS, when school was let out that Friday my brother and I were on a plane, bus or car heading down south on Saturday going to Grandma’s house.

    This article warms my heart and explains the panic we are hearing in GOP voices. Rove is making noises about a “50 State Strategy”, for them it wouldn’t be an offensive move but a defensive one, the Confederacy will need to defend the South once more. Good luck with that…lol

    “Obama won Virginia and Florida and narrowly missed victory in North Carolina. But he also polled as well in Georgia as any Democrat since Jimmy Carter, grabbed 44 percent of the vote in deep-red South Carolina and just under that in Mississippi — despite doing no substantive campaigning in any of those states.”


  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥- – – -Here he is AGAIN! LOL– – -Tellin’ SOME DEMS- — -“SLOW YER ROLL” – —-

    – —Stopping veteran Dem retirements is top priority for Reid, Schumer– —

    – —One of the highest immediate political priorities for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Senate Democratic political guru Charles Schumer (N.Y.) is to persuade veteran colleagues not to retire in 2014.

    Democratic sources identify four senators as most likely to retire: Sens. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), Tim Johnson (D-S.D.), Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) and Tom Harkin (D-Iowa).

    Another possible veteran retirement is Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin (D-Mich.), who has yet to announce his decision. But Democratic aides expect him to run again.

    Democrats would have a tough time defending their seats in West Virginia and South Dakota without incumbents running. Iowa, a blue-leaning state that gave President Obama a six-point victory over Mitt Romney, is a competitive race that slightly favors Democrats and New Jersey is a safe bet to stay in their column. Michigan resembles Iowa in that it leans Democratic but a strong Republican candidate could capture the seat if Levin leaves.

    – – -SNIP- —
    The next election cycle poses a threat to Reid’s tenure as majority leader because Democrats have to defend 20 seats while Republicans have 13 up for re-election. He expanded his majority to a comfortable margin of 55 to 45 in the upper chamber, counting two independents caucusing with the Democrats. But a slew of Democrats face tough races in conservative leaning states: such as Mark Begich in Alaska, Kay Hagan in North Carolina, Mark Pryor in Arkansas and Mary Landrieu in Louisiana.


    WE got some WORK 2 do.- – -The CAMPAIGNS R – -STILL ON. – -Gotta – – keep movin’ — -FORWARD- —>

  • GreenLadyHere
    • Mornin’ GLH! Excellent selections! I love me some Ella! 🙂

      • GreenLadyHere

        Sepia- — – -THANK U very much. :>)- — -My PLEASURE. :>)

  • creolechild

    U.S. Sees Biggest Abortion Decrease In A Decade |

    New data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows that abortions fell 5 percent in 2009, “in the biggest one-year decrease in at least a decade.” Researchers are attributing the reduction to the recession and increased use of more effective methods of birth control. Mississippi “had the lowest abortion rate, at 4 per 1,000 women of child-bearing age.”


    H/T Igor Volsky

    • nellcote

      attributing the reduction to the recession and increased use of more effective methods of birth control.
      I’m sure lack of access had something to do with it also.

      • conlakappa

        I’m not sure about that. The real test will be with BC pills being covered under the healthcare act. Heard interesting words from a think tanker about where that might take us.

  • creolechild

    A Deep Nerve

    From TPM Reader KE on reaping the whirlwind …

    I am sure that many people (like me) took the insults and disrespectful behavior towards President Obama in a very personal way. Many of us have experienced racism from “non-racists” all too frequently. As an Asian-American, the questioning of Obama’s American-ness really strikes a raw nerve. (This is perhaps the one experience that unites Asian-Americans — being treated as a foreigner in our homeland).

    I see in Barack Obama a smart man who worked hard to get an education and to achieve a better life, only to be questioned about his credentials and his authenticity. I identify with that. So do many other people. The Republican attacks on Obama reminded many people of their own personal experiences with sexism and racism. Too bad (or maybe it was for the better) that the Republicans living in their bubble of whiteness couldn’t see that.


    H/T KE and Josh Marshall

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia – – -Woo! Hoo! — – –GLOATIN’ TIME — —

    – —Republicans face unexpected challenges in coastal South amid shrinking white vote– –

    —– –Late on election night, a small melee erupted at the University of Mississippi here when a group of white students frustrated by the reelection of President Obama marched outside and began shouting racial slurs at African American students. Several hundred people gathered to watch as two white students were arrested.

    “Mississippi still has a lot of work to do in race relations,” said Kimbrely Dandridge, an African American Obama supporter and president of the student body.

    Yet even as that incident evoked ugly memories of an earlier era, Election Day in the South told a newer and more surprising story: The nation’s first black president finished more strongly in the region than any other Democratic nominee in three decades, underscoring a fresh challenge for Republicans who rely on Southern whites as their base of national support.

    Obama won Virginia and Florida and narrowly missed victory in North Carolina. But he also polled as well in Georgia as any Democrat since Jimmy Carter, grabbed 44 percent of the vote in deep-red South Carolina and just under that in Mississippi — despite doing no substantive campaigning in any of those states.
    – – — SNIP- – –
    – —–In every Southern state except Louisiana, the population of African Americans grew substantially faster than that of whites over the past decade. The growth is fueled by black retirees from the north and rising numbers of young, well-educated blacks in prosperous cities such as Atlanta, Norfolk, Charlotte and Charleston, S.C.


    – – —Gotta KEEP –Movin’ — — FORWARD- – – ->– –Woo! Hoo! :>) – – —

    • majii

      Things are changing here in GA right under the GOPers’ noses, GLH. I’m all for letting them think that some of us don’t pose a threat to them in the very near future. In the meantime, we’ll be gathering the troops together and getting ready to send them packing.

      • GreenLadyHere

        LOL majii. :>)

        – – -Sooo U B a “STRATEGIZER” – 2? – – -Good on U. :>)

        Shhhhh . . – –I’ll KEEP your secret. :>)

  • creolechild

    A grocery store for the people planned for West Oakland food desert

    Brahm Ahmadi spends a lot of time thinking about something most people take for granted: grocery stores. As one of the founders of the nonprofit People’s Grocery in West Oakland he and his colleagues started out with more affordable, less ambitious projects, like a mobile food delivery service and a local community-supported agriculture (CSA) box. But it quickly became clear that the area needed a reliable, independent grocery store.

    So, he left People’s Grocery, spent time in business school where he became an expert on community grocery stores, and then secured a matching grant from the California FreshWorks Fund for around a third of the funding. Ahmadi then hatched a plan to raise the remaining $1.2 million needed to start the People’s Community Market through what’s called a direct public offering. In other words, he’s inviting California residents to invest in fresh food — literally. For a mere $1,000, anyone in the state can become a shareholder.[….]

    [….] Ahmadi envisions nutrition counselors on-site in the store offering advice, classes, and health screening. “We consider the education and health support service element to be core to the business model, not peripheral,” he says.
    And that’s not the only way the People’s Community Market will differentiate from other, larger grocery stores. With a community advisory council (a group of neighborhood folks who will advise on things like planning, outreach, marketing, and recruitment), a commitment to hiring at least 50 percent West Oakland residents, and an eye toward community participation at every turn, Ahmadi hopes the market will succeed where bigger chains have failed.

    Read more: http://grist.org/food/a-grocery-store-for-the-people-planned-for-west-oakland-food-desert/

    H/T Twilight Greenaway

  • creolechild

    Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell Repeal Did Not Impact Armed Services Retention |

    The repeal of Don’t ask, Don’t Tell took effect September 20, 2011, and according to the Defense Department’s retention report for fiscal year 2012 (October 1, 2011 – September 30, 2012), the repeal had no negative impact on retention goals. Over that year, all four branches of the armed services met or exceeded their retention goals, as did five of the six reserve components. These data debunk any argument that allowing gay, lesbian, and bisexual servicemembers to serve openly would discourage others from serving in the military.


    H/T @rockrichard and Zack Ford

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia- —–LOL- –“WHYCOME”_ – — We NOT — -FEELIN’ da LUV [4 rubio]???- — -LOL

    – — – –Cartoons of the Day- Road to 2016– —


  • creolechild

    Some Tips For The Republican Party

    Right now the Republican Party is undergoing a lot of battles, finger-pointing, and … discussion … about the direction the Party should take, and what it needs to do to be relevant int he future. One of the big problems for them I’ve seen is that they’re unwilling to take the obvious steps. Instead, most of it seems to be the equivalent of putting lipstick on a pig. It’s not really “changing the party,” it’s cosmetology, and it doesn’t make it any less a pig. So, with that in mind, here are my tips.

    1) Admit supply side economics doesn’t work. Look, you had a 28 year run with it.[….]
    2) Facts only “have a liberal bias” because you deny them. They really don’t have a “bias,” they’re objective.[….]
    3) Acknowledge that science works.[….]
    4) Realize that regulations are not necessarily bad. There is a big difference between saying “this specific regulation is unnecessary” and saying “we don’t need regulations.”[….]
    5) Since you’ve invested too much into bashing “elitism,” how about pushing for “competence?”[….]
    6) Finally, realize that it’s the 21′st Century. Yes, the year is 2012, soon to be 2013. Why do I mention that?[….]

    Read more: http://cendax.wordpress.com/2012/11/23/some-tips-for-the-republican-party/

    H/T Norbrook

  • creolechild

    Research: Diversity on college campuses promotes critical thinking

    Four new studies point to evidence that diversity can improve colleges students’ critical thinking skills, according to the Chronicle of Higher Education on Monday. The research, presented at the Association for the Study of Higher Education meeting in Las Vegas, found that students studied in various ways seemed to improve on standardized tests of critical thinking after coming into contact with students whose backgrounds differ from their own. And white students seemed to benefit the most.

    The studies were largely focused on a pool of data in which students were measured using widely accepted critical theory tests at three points during their college careers, once before starting freshman year, once after completing freshman year, and once near the end of their senior year.[….]

    Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/19/research-diversity-on-college-campuses-promotes-critical-thinking/

    H/T Kay Steiger

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia- – — -UH! OH!- — -Mr. Barney- – – -GOIN’ IN ON a wayward-thinkin’- RE-THUCKER!- – -HAH!- —

    – – —Barney Frank Calls Out Republican Senator: Stop Using ‘Weasel Words’

    – – —Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) challenged the GOP’s implications that the Obama administration or the FBI sat on the Gen. David Petraeus sex scandal until after the election, describing such claims underhanded and unsubstantiated.

    During an appearance on CNN’s State of the Union on Sunday with retiring lawmakers Sens. Jon Kyl (R-AZ), Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX) and Joe Lieberman (I-CT), Frank pushed back against Hutchison’s claims that “top level officials,” including the President, may have known about the scandal before Election Day. He pressed her to define her accusations and identify whose integrity she was impugning:

    – – — -SNIP — –

    FRANK: Are you suggesting there was some coverup, that the FBI are playing games? I think we ought to be explicit about this. I’m troubled by the implication of your statement and are you suggesting that something wasn’t legitimate here? Because that would trouble me.

    HUTCHISON: I’m suggesting that I have great concerns about the legitimacy of…

    FRANK: Excuse me, “great concerns” is kind of a weasel word….
    THERE IS MORE!!! – – -HAH

    THIS COMMENT: — –Rip Arrowood ·
    You got to figure that by now anyone who doesn’t know they can’t unload a line of BS around Barney Frank and they won’t get called out for it, is pretty clueless anyway…Gonna miss Barney when he retires.
    — -TRUTH!! :>)

    – –Of course “creepy crowley”— di-ent help!- — -She’s SUCH a RE-THUCKER!!- – –
    Did I eva say that- — – I CAIN’T STAND HER!!?- — LOL

    • conlakappa

      I guess they have no great concerns about Cantor knowing before the election or about them claiming Dangle-It Dave as presumptively one of their own. I’d say Hutchison is as dumb as a bag of hair but it would be an insult to the hair.

      • majii

        Her entire performance looked like RW orchestration to me, conlakappa. Nothing about it seemed genuine. I find it ironic that neither she, nor any of the GOPer pols, had anything to say about the attacks on our embassies/consulates when GWB was in office, but suddenly, they’re “very concerned.” I’m calling BS on all of them. They didn’t question the intelligence community or GWB when any of these attacks occurred.

        • conlakappa

          No doubt. They trot her out at key moments though the woman is a straight-up doofus; yet another instance of their cynicism. She is retiring with no signature legislation, no notable issue. But she is rich so worthy of being in office.

  • creolechild

    Reaping the Whirlwind?

    Following up on JT’s email, I think there is one point to remember when Republicans keep saying that they are so surprised that core groups in the Obama electoral coalition, like African Americans, young voters, etc., were able to match or even exceed their 2008 turnout: Republicans did some pretty unbelievable, disrespectful and frankly unconscionable things to this President that JT’s cites:[….]

    I’m not sure Republicans realize or understand this, but it seems pretty clear that people who admire and look up to this President, particularly those who share the same race as him, were not going to take this disrespect lying down. The lesson here may be is that there is always some consequence for actions in politics; it may not be readily apparent immediately, but there was always going to be a price to be paid for indulging and encouraging the most outrageous and irresponsible voices on the right. It just wasn’t until Election Day that it was clear how dear a price that was.

    Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/11/reaping_the_whirlwind_1.php?ref=fpblg

    H/T JB and Josh Marshall

    • angee

      That’s why we need more diversity in media. Not just blk faces n wht places but blk faces rooted in blk community like Rev Al and Joy Reid who really know what’s going on.

    • edp4bho

      There was someone back last summer who warned rethugs to tone it down on PBO as the attacks would make people “feel sorry” for him. Half right- we were protecting our own–it was personal. They didn’t listen out of sheer hubris.

      • conlakappa

        That and never being required to (1) demonstrate any respect towards a nonwhite person [see “you lie”] and (2) consider a nonwhite person worth consideration.

  • jds09

    The thought of Orange County California going blue is mind boggling…

    “Asked to explain the loss, Scott Baugh, chairman of the county’s Republican Party, attributed it to “not fully appreciating the demographic shift and not seeing it in time.”

    Baugh and other Republicans say Latinos belong naturally in the GOP, citing a cultural emphasis on faith, family, education and the value of hard work.”

    If this is all they got then Republicans are in for a world of hurt. Castro at the Democratic Convention OWNED this talking point with “she held a mop so I could hold this mic”, or economic mobility is a “relay race from one generation to another.”

    It’s good to live in Cali.


    • GreenLadyHere

      GOOD SUNDAY MORNTIN’- –jds09. ****BIG HUG** :>)

      – —***BIG- –fist bump**** :>)- —It’s good to live in Cali.– -:>)

      – – – -THIS!- — IS!- — -a BFD!! :>) — —>Countywide, Romney beat Obama 52% to 45%, but in Irvine, the percentage was nearly inverted: voters chose the president over Romney 52% to 44%.

      HERE R some OTHER STATS:- —

      Orange County, California – —

      – —White persons, percent definition and source info White persons, percent, 2011 (a) 74.9% 74.0%
      Black persons, percent definition and source info Black persons, percent, 2011 (a) 2.1% 6.6%
      – – – -SNIP- —
      Persons of Hispanic or Latino Origin, percent definition and source info Persons of Hispanic or Latino Origin, percent, 2011 (b) 34.1% 38.1%
      – —

      – – -Keepin’ in mind that MR. PRESIDENT garnered a significant – -YT VOTE.- – –Voter support for Barack Obama and Mitt Romney in the 2012 election, by ethnic group– -HAH!

      Good 2 C U jds09. :>)

    • conlakappa

      Maybe they should stop listening to Leslie Sanchez, whom they pay to consult on what latinos think/want/are and shake up their assumptions. I tire of that talking point. They really are convinced that they own those values.

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia- —SPEAKIN’ of- –Mr. Barney- —

    – – —Deep Thought – – –

    – —It would please me if John Kerry received some kind of cabinet position or another and Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick appointed Barney Frank to fill out his term in the Senate. Some people worry that Scott Brown could win the seat back in a special election, but I think Barney would destroy him. And, in any case, if we’re really worried about it, the Massachusetts legislature can just change the law back to the way it used to be and eliminate the special election. With Senators Elizabeth Warren and Barney Frank, the Bay State would drive the Republicans absolutely nuts. It would also add another comedian to the ranks of the upper chamber.

    – — -Create a “DYNAMIC DUO”.?- — INTERESTIN’ . . . . . . .:>)— –

    • nellcote

      Kerry coming full cycle to be head of DoD and SENATOR Barney Frank? Oh HELL YEAH!

      • GreenLadyHere

        GOOD SUNDAY MORNTIN’ nellcote. ***BIG HUG** :>)

        – -***fist bump***- – -WHAT a VISION- -HUH!?- -:>)

        Mr. Barney SAID- –that he was- -THROUGH!- –BUT – -we’ll C- :>)

        Good 2 C U nellcote. :>)

      • Ebogan63

        Barney would agree to it just to tweak the Repubs.

      • Oh snap! I didn’t think about ol’ Barney filling Kerry’s spot!

        Dis gon’ be good!

    • Aquagranny911

      I love Barney Frank! He takes no prisoners!

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY Aquagranny911. ***BIG HUG**** :>)

        – –***fist bump**_ –LOL- -Is he a “scream”- — -or what??? LOL

        Happy 2 C U Aquagranny. ***HUGS** :>)

        • Aquagranny911

          HUGS ♥ right back at you Sweet Lady. I hope you had a great Thanksgiving.

    • isonprize

      Barney Frank? Oh yeah, baby. This would be wonderful!!!

      Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank: 2012 Democratic National Convention – We Should’ve Had ‘Myth Romney’

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY isonprize [PA.♥]- — -***BIG HUG*** :>)

        – – —LOL- -BEYOND FUNNY!!- — -He is a R-I-O-T!! LOL- – –

        THANKS 4 sharing. :>). Good 2 C U. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia- —FIRST:- — Jack Dawson · Top Commenter
    How sad to see someone of McCain’s (former) stature struggling to stay relevant in a political world that has clearly passed him by. Thanks for the advice senator… but when it comes from someone who supported the needless death of 4,000 troops in Iraq, brought us Sarah Palin, and can only get in the news by fanning anti-Obama flames… it just doesn’t have any credibility. At this point, you may want to consider a little less foreign policy opinion, and little more shuffleboard.
    – — -LOL! —-

    – — NOW: – –WHO CARES ’bout his DELUSIONS???- – — –

    – — –McCain: U.S. should rebuke Egypt’s Morsi– —

    – — –The Obama administration should aggressively rebuke Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi for a decree that grants him sweeping powers, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said Sunday.

    The United States should “renounce the statement and the movement that [Morsi] just made, allow the judiciary to function… to assume this kind of power is unacceptable to the United States of America,” McCain said on “Fox News Sunday.” “First, condemn it.”

    The senator, who’s the ranking Republican on the Armed Services Committee, framed the issue in terms of American taxes and American aid to the country.

    The administration should say “this is not what the United States of America and taxpayers expect, and our dollars will be directly related to the progress towards democracy which you promised to the people of Egypt when your party and you were elected president,” McCain said.
    THERE IS MORE- – – –I CAIN’T- —

    He needsta- –SHUT- DA FLIP UP annnnd TAKE A FLIPPIN’ SEAT in a MEGA STADIUM!!- – -geesh.

    HIS IDEAS R as OLD AS – -DIRT!!_ –lIKE HIM!!- —

    • nellcote

      who’s the ranking Republican on the Armed Services Committee,
      Until Jan. 2013

      • GreenLadyHere

        LOL- – -nellcote- –THE WARMONGER:- -LOL

        – —>Members, 112th Congress

        The Committee is chaired by Democrat Carl Levin of Michigan, and the Ranking Member is Republican John McCain of Arizona. LOL

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia- — – -THIS –is his motivation:- RACIST– -SLEAZE BUCKET!!- –geesh

    – —South Carolina
    Main article: United States Senate election in South Carolina, 2014
    Two-term incumbent Republican Lindsey Graham was re-elected with 58% of the vote in 2008. He will be 59 years old in 2014. A survey conducted January 28–30, 2011, by Public Policy Polling showed that in a potential primary match-up with Congressman Joe Wilson, Wilson led 43–41, while Graham<b? led when tested in a potential primary against former Governor Mark Sanford, 52–34.[27]

    —– –Another GOP Senator Shows Willingness To Abandon Norquist Tax Pledge— –

    ——Less than a week after Georgia Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R) signaled a willingness to abandon the radical anti-tax pledge authored by Grover Norquist that has brought previous debt negotiations to a standstill, another prominent Republican has joined him.

    Asked last week if Norquist would hold his support for new revenues against him, Chambliss said, “I don’t worry about that because I care too much about my country. I care a lot more about it than I do Grover Norquist.” South Carolina Sen. Lindsay Graham (R) seemed to echo that sentiment today, saying on ABC’s This Week that he could conceivably abandon the pledge as part of a deal to avoid going over the so-called “fiscal cliff,” the package of spending cuts and tax increases set to take effect at the end of the year:
    THERE IS MORE- —- -KRAP!!– –J jus’ CAIN’T- — -RACIST B**TURD!!- –

    • angee

      Remember this was a dem seat before lindsay won it. At the time he was considered to the left of strum. Guess he’s going 2 try 2 move more 2 center for reelection

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY angee. ***BIG HUG** :>)

        FIRST: –THANK U 4 the “historical information.”- —

        – —***fist bump*** —Guess he’s going 2 try 2 move more 2 center for reelection – —-WE KNOW!!- —

        The -SIGN in FRONT of HIM- – in that 2011 POLL- — -SAID- —WILSON!!-[4- – -2014] – -HAH!!

        He BETTA KNOW!!- – -BTW- — -He NEVA HAD or will have our vote!!- – — RACIST- — B**TURD!!- –

        Good 2 C U angee.♥ —-Hope U had a –HAPPY! :>)

        • angee

          Hey GLH hope all is well

          • GreenLadyHere

            Angee – –Thank U. :>) Goin’ – –pretty well. :>)

      • conlakappa

        I thought Graham won Ol’ Strom’s seat and DeMented won Hollings’s. The staff person I dealt with in Graham’s office worked for Thurmond but maybe she was an outlier. in any event, the Tea Party aka SC GOP already signaled in 2010 that it was going after Graham. Wilson seems the logical person to make a power grab or maybe the black guy who beat Young Strom in the primaries in 2010–gives them immunity for whatever other fetid stuff comes down the pike.

        • angee

          I believe strum & lindsay was n senate together. I might b wrong

    • I wish the media would tell people that the fiscal cliff is Beltway speak for Republicans get screwed. If all of the Bush tax cuts expire PBO gets to blame Republicans for delivering a 5 trillion dollar revenue stream to the country. That and sequestration which would cut deep into defense and by extension many red districts.

      You could see this coming a mile away. Months ago Graham and his cronies were in a rage telling PBO that no way was this going to happen. Except Lindsay never read the fine print. If he had he would have noticed that word automatic.

      Now that Graham and the rest of Congressional Republicans realize they’re trapped he’s as mellow as a kitten sipping Cutty Sark.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY woody45. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

        – – — ***fist bump***- – –>If all of the Bush tax cuts expire PBO gets to blame Republicans for delivering a 5 trillion dollar revenue stream to the country. That and sequestration which would cut deep into defense and by extension many red districts.– –

        Annnd THIS is ona the REASONS that we KEEP SEEIN’- –

        – — –THIS- — >-NORQUIST- -EMIGRATION!- — HAH!– – –

        ——DEY AIN’T foolin’—NOBODY!!!—-hAH!

        THIS- – >mellow as a kitten sipping Cutty Sark. – – – – -BWAHAHA!–Good 1! :>)- —

        —— YA MEAN- – –LIKE THIS??- – -LOL

        Good 2 C U woody45. :>)

  • crazycanuck

    Why the @##$%%^ do you have to assemble every dam thing you buy these days. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr

    Good Afternoon Folks, sorry about my language this Sunday.

    • edp4bho


      Hello cc, POU. I was just reading that NQ site. Outrageously sad and hilarious at the same time. Well, better get in the kitchen to make my turkey soup. Trust you all had a peaceful T’day. I’m not into the historic sentiment of that day, but it was my parents’ favorite holiday, and the only time of year you can buy turkey at .49 a pound.

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia- – – –THIS- – -RACIST OLD B**TURD- -PHOOL- – -OWES DR.SUSAN RICE – an APOLOGY!!– – – –

    – —-McCain: Rice could change my mind on Secretary of State vote.- —


    – — — –– —SNIP- —
    Asked about McCain’s comments at a press conference later in the day, President Obama called the remarks “outrageous.”

    “If Sen. McCain and Sen. Graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me,” Obama said. “For them to go after the U.N. ambassador, who had nothing to do with Benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received, and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous.”

    Other Democrats, including Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) suggested McCain had employed veiled racial “code words” to attack Rice, an African-American woman.

    “To call her incompetent, a Ph.D., Rhodes scholar being called incompetent by someone who can’t hold a candle to her intellectually, by someone who said — and Sen. McCain called her incompetent, as well — but he told us that Sarah Palin was a very competent person to be the vice president of the United States,” Clyburn (D-S.C.) said on CNN’s “Starting Point.” “That ought to tell you a little bit about his judgment.”

    I di-ent want 2 post his comments. ***shakin’ my head***

    • conlakappa

      You know what I keep saying: attentionwhores are going to attention.

  • trose1

    Ohio went for PBO in the election. However, a Black woman was running for Ohio supreme court justice. She had been appointed by Ted Strickland before he left office. She lost by double digits. From what I read the woman who beat her was a RWNJ. How does that happen in a state that went Blue for Obama?
    This article explores why she lost. I think it explains why Nina Turner will never win state wide office in Ohio.
    Electing black statewide officeholders remains elusive milestone for Democrats in Ohio
    For Ohio Democrats, a streak of confounding futility continued this month, lost amid presidential politics and the more obvious nuances of a Supreme Court shakeup.

    Never has the party elected a black candidate to statewide office.

    Justice Yvette McGee Brown became the latest failure, losing by double digits her bid to remain on the court. As had been the case for past black Democrats, not even the head start of a midterm appointment could help her change history.

    • Alma98

      The comments in that article are horrendous.

      • trose1

        I didn’t notice until now LOL. Typical, this is Ohio.

    • dannie22

      ohio is a very racist state. and the white women here are some of the worst offenders

  • rikyrah

    Good Afternoon, Everyone 🙂

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia- — -HAH!- – –THESE R sumore- – -“FISCAL FACTS”—- that MR. PRESIDENT– – – KNEW. :>)

    – — –Tax Rates For America’s Wealthiest Fell In 2010– – —

    – – –With debate in Washington focused on the taxes paid by the wealthiest Americans, new data from the Internal Revenue Service shows that the effective tax rates for America’s top earners fell even lower in 2010.

    The average effective tax rate fell for all income groups above $500,000, continuing a drop that has occurred for years. For incomes above $10 million, the average rate fell from 22.4 percent in 2009 to 20.7 percent in 2010. The reason for the continual drop is clear: the 2003 high-income Bush tax cuts lowered the rate on investment income, and wealthy Americans are deriving more income from investments than they ever have, the Wall Street Journal reports:

    –THIS- — >The reason for the drop in average tax rates is no secret: It’s the special 15% top rates for capital gains and dividends that President George W. Bush pushed through. In 2009, taxpayers with incomes exceeding $10 million reported 35.8% of their income as capital gains and dividends. That rose to 48.5% for 2010.
    – – – – SNIP – –

    – –The capital gains rate has been steadily eroded since President Ronald Reagan taxed such income equal to wages in the 1980s, and the result has been rising income inequality. A January 2012 study found that low capital gains rates were the biggest driver of American income inequality, which now rivals the levels seen in countries like Ivory Coast and Pakistan. In 2010, the capital gains preference helped the richest 1 percent capture 93 percent of all income gains.

    – —-Annnnd- – -THEY- -STILL don’t wannna PAY THEIR- – -FAIR SHARE!!- —

    Annnnd- – –da TWITT- -will NEVA B FORCED 2 SHOW US HIS TAXES.- – –

    – –He’s LUCKY – – – -HE LOST!!- – -LOL- –

  • Aquagranny911

    Hola POU! I hope everyone is having a relaxing Sunday & if traveling I wish you safe journey. Mi casa is finally empty again. The Marines did a stellar job of finishing the clean up before they left. They even washed the patio sliding door glass of all the kiddo prints…imagine! I told my nephew I wanted to keep them forever as my clean up crew but they had to be back at the base.

  • Aquagranny911

    I should not laugh but can’t help myself because “some assembly required” usually means you need an engineering degree from Cal Tech to read the instructions. Some items I have bought even came with their own little tools.

    What is even worse is getting children’s toys out of the packaging. We always unpackage everything before wrapping because it is a real pain in the butt trying to do it with the child dancing in anticipation. They even stitch doll’s hair to the box now. I wrote a whole diary about this issue on another blog a couple of years ago.

    Disqus is FUBAR again! This comment is for CC down thread.

    • conlakappa

      Instructions or pictograms?

      • Aquagranny911

        LOL both! It’s really exciting when the written instructions don’t match the pictures. Also try alternating from English to Spanish instructions for some real fun!

        Hubby & I recently replaced the ice maker in our fridge. It took us several hours & two trips to the web site for help. What had us really rolling on the floor were the differences in Spanish & English instruction. We tried the English first but then thought the Spanish might be more helpful. Boy oh boy were we wrong about that!

    • majii

      The worst toy my ex and I bought for our daughter back in the day was a Barbie Dream House. It was a nightmare to assemble. We started putting it together at about 11:00 PM Christmas Eve and didn’t put the last part together until about 6:00 AM Christmas morning! That was the end of me buying her anything again that required that much assembly time.

      • Aquagranny911

        OMG! Shared nightmare! But ours was some other toy & we did manage to finish by about 2 AM but…

        My brother called us at about 3AM from Germany to wish us Merry Christmas because he was confused about the time difference. All the kiddos got up & we had to do the Christmas thing. I think I fell asleep with my head in a plate of chuletas at lunch time!

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia– –[At a dis-advantage without a TV.- – BUT. . :>)]- – -Findin’ VIDEOS :>)- –
    – – – – –REV AL!!!- — – -The ONLY 1 WORTH LISTENIN’ 2!! :>)-

    – — – –Sharpton, on ‘Meet the Press’ talks fiscal cliff, Obama’s second term agenda – – –

    – – – –Rev. Al Sharpton joined the roundtable on Meet the Press on Sunday to discuss the “fiscal cliff,” and the anticipated second term agenda for President Barack Obama.

    Sharpton, along with fellow guests MSNBC anchor and senior Washington correspondent Andrea Mitchell, New York Times columnist David Brooks, documentary filmmaker Ken Burns and former Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina discussed what Americans can expect in a second Obama term, and in upcoming fiscal cliff negotiations.

    Sharpton said there is no question “we are gonna have to deal with the question of where the tax rates go,” and noted that during a meeting the president held with progressive leaders including himself, Obama pledged to uphold his campaign pledge to raise taxes on the rich. After that, Sharpton said the priorities of jobs and unemployment “will be dealt with.”

    — -2 Andrea- RE-THUCKER- – – – -SAAAA-LAP!!– — -HE!- -IS!– -da PRESIDENT!!- — – –HE KNOWS!! geesh!

  • rikyrah

    State of War

    The Republicans have thrown down the gauntlet over the possibility that Susan Rice will replace Hillary Clinton. But the winner is already clear.

    .By John Heilemann
    Published Nov 22, 2012

    It was Tuesday morning in Phnom Penh when Barack Obama decided to dispatch Hillary Clinton to the Middle East to try to help defuse the mounting conflict in Gaza. Clinton had been traveling at Obama’s side on his swing through Thailand, Burma, and Cambodia—but now duty called, and she was off to Jerusalem, Ramallah, and Cairo. So peripatetic has Clinton been as secretary of State that it seemed perversely fitting that what was billed as her final foreign trip with her boss would be cut short this way. And while news of cease-fire talks in Gaza came hours before she touched down in the region, the sequence of events was a vivid reminder of the stature that Clinton has gained in the job: For the past four years, she has been Obama’s go-to gal in any global crisis.

    Clinton’s impending departure, in other words, presents the president with a massive pair of pumps to fill—and a domestic political skirmish far less bloody than, but nearly as bloody-minded as, the one in the Mideast. At the center of this conflagration is U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice, one of the prime candidates to replace Clinton, and a series of Sunday-show appearances she made after the attack on the American consulate in Benghazi, in which she declined to call it a terrorist incident but instead deemed it a “spontaneous” protest that had been “hijacked” by “clusters of extremists.” For this, Rice is being flayed by John McCain, who has called her “not … very bright” and “not qualified” to be secretary of State, and pledged to do “everything in my power” to block her from the post, as well as being denounced by 97 House Republicans, who in a letter to Obama declared that Rice’s “misleading statements” about Benghazi “caused irreparable damage to her credibility both at home and around the world.”

    Beyond the spectacle of gratuitous spleen-venting, does any of this Republican fulmination matter in the least—or, as the headline of a recent Maureen Dowd column in the Times put it, “Is Rice Cooked?” As a rule, your columnist avoids predictions, but in the spirit of holiday indulgence, I will make an exception here: Not only will Obama appoint Rice to succeed Clinton but she will be confirmed. And though I offer this forecast without the aid of polling averages to lend a patina of statistical certainty to the endeavor, I do believe there are at least five sound reasons to think it will come true:

    1. Because every piece of available evidence suggests Obama wants her in the job. Among all his senior foreign-policy hands, Rice has always been the one with whom the president has shared both a strong personal and policy-related bond. “There’s a real similarity to the relationship between George W. Bush and the other foreign-policy Rice, in that they’re close and they share a common view of the world and America’s role in it,” says Jonathan Prince, who served as a senior adviser to Mideast peace envoy George Mitchell and who argues that Obama’s fiery defense of Rice in his postelection press conference made clear his inclination to give her State. “I don’t know how you could see the way he reacted and not think that.”

    Rice has a number of other factors weighing on her side. Unlike John Kerry, the likeliest alternative, she has vocal champions inside the White House—in particular Valerie Jarrett. At the same time, few believe that Obama would want to have a less diverse Cabinet in his second term than he did in his first one, which means at least one of the Big Four departments being presided over by a woman. With Eric Holder now indicating that he will stay on as attorney general and current chief of staff Jack Lew likely taking over for Tim Geithner at Treasury, that leaves only State and Defense to fill—and a paucity of obviously qualified females to run the latter. Hence Rice at State with either Kerry, Rhode Island senator Jack Reed, or former senator Chuck Hagel at the Pentagon would seem a logical outcome.

    2. Because Rice is manifestly qualified for the job.

    Though the résumé she would bring to the job is not nearly as accomplished as Clinton’s, the comparison is more than a bit unfair to a woman seventeen years younger. Over the course of the past two decades, she has been a rising celestial body in the Democratic foreign-policy firmament, serving on the staff of Hillary’s husband’s national-security council and as his assistant secretary of State for African affairs. As U.N. ambassador, she has sometimes ruffled feathers with her bluntness, but at the same time earned high marks for her tangible achievements: helping to secure unprecedented U.N. sanctions resolutions against Iran and North Korea and playing a pivotal role in persuading a wary Obama to intervene militarily in Libya.


  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia- — –***YAAAAAAAAAAWN****- – -Annnd He goes out- -SNIPIN’- -uh!

    – — Report: Rep. King to step down as chairman of Homeland committee

    — — —Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) will step down as chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee in the new Congress, according to reports.

    King will give up the spot under the House Republican Conference’s six-year term limit rule. The New York lawmaker had previously sought a waiver for a one-year extension, which he is now completing.

    – — –SNIP- – —

    – — – – -SNIPE:- ->He said that with a push by Congress to reduce government spending and the likelihood that Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano might leave President Obama’s Cabinet in a second term, New York’s lawmakers needed to be vigilant to ensure that the city and state received the anti-terrorism resources needed.

    “She realized that was where the threat was,” said King of Napolitano’s attention to New York.
    THERE IS- — – -Yaaaaaawn- — — -MORE.

    BUT- — -WHAT DID HE DO_ – – – -in 7 YEARS??—- ***crickets**** geesh!

  • rikyrah


    The GOP’s Conspicuous Silence About Entitlement Cuts

    Brian Beutler-November 23, 2012, 3:33 PM

    Republicans are coming to terms with the fact that they will have to cede real, higher tax revenues to President Obama if they want to avoid the full expiration of the Bush tax cuts.

    But while Democrats have been explicit about what they want from the GOP — a higher top income tax rate on high earners — Republicans have been vague about what they want in return.

    When asked, Republicans insist that Democrats will have to accept “structural reforms” to support programs like Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security if Republicans are to relent on taxes. But neither Democratic nor Republican aides can publicly say what would pass the GOP’s “structural reform” test.

    “What do you think they mean by structural changes?” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi asked rhetorically at a Capitol press conference last week. “Do they mean reducing benefits to our — to America’s great middle class? What do we mean? I mean, let’s define our terms. What do they mean by structural changes? … Is that a euphemism for I am going to cut your benefit if you are a middle‑aged senior? Is that what structural change means? No, I don’t support that.”

    Asked Friday what the House GOP’s terms are, a top aide to Speaker John Boehner said, “Republicans’ willingness to support additional revenue via tax reform is conditional on it being accompanied by significant entitlement reforms that begin to address the problem of the debt. There are a variety of ways in which this can be accomplished. As the Speaker has indicated, we’re open to talking with Democrats about any and all serious and responsible entitlement changes they’re willing to discuss. Without such spending controls, any plan to avert the fiscal cliff is not a balanced approach,” but provided no specifics or approach preferences.

    In the recent past, Republicans have proposed dramatic reforms to all three of those programs — partial privatization of both Medicare and Social Security, and dramatically reduced federal spending on and authority over Medicaid.

    But their ideas lack popular support, and a majority of the voting public rejected them on Election Day. Even if Republicans continue to advocate these plans, they don’t have the leverage to force Democrats to accept them.

    Privately, some Republicans hope to return to the kinds of proposals Obama and Boehner nearly settled upon last summer during their failed debt ceiling negotiations — including a higher Medicare eligibility age, and a less generous formula for calculating Social Security cost of living adjustments.

  • Aquagranny911

    While the Repugs are discussing “entitlements” I hope the Dems put on the table the disgusting “entitlements” paid to oil companies, defense contractors, big agriculture & corporations who out source jobs.

    Those are where the largest “entitlements” are being paid.

    • jds09

      If we start hearing PBO is a “redistributionist”, he wants “equal outcomes”, the “job creators need certainty” , then we know the Dems have put it on the table. lol

    • majii

      According to republicans, those aren’t entitlements, AG, they’re a form of stimulus the so-called “job creators” need to remain in business. Never mind that all oil is sold in the global market, they need that American taxpayer cash to get it to the global market. If more Americans understood how things are done in Congress and how much profit many of these companies actually make in relation to how little they pay in taxes, they’d mobilize and be marching in the streets to end subsidies to companies that don’t really need them, but too many have been sold on the idea that ending their subsidies would “hurt” American businesses.

      • Aquagranny911

        Big SIGH! I know & it does piss me off so much that so many people are just plain estupido about caca like this. I do my very best to educate where ever I can.

  • GreenLadyHere

    Dear POU FAM♥- – –Gotta hit da road.- –YES with- –“GHETTO- – -GURRRRLLL”. LOL.—– -Y’ALL PRAY MUCH!! LOL

    C U soon. :>) B Blessed. :>)

  • lamh36

    seriously, are Dr Dre’s headphones REALLY that great? Or just another “status” symbol buy? What the heck is wrong with some 9.99 headphones from Walgreens??? I’m just sayin’

  • lamh36

    Alright, tryin’ to decide if I’m watching this Soul Train Awards, but then I heard that New Editions will be performing (including Bobby Brown) so yeah, I’m there.
    As long as they sing my fav song, I’ma be happy!


  • lamh36

    Raphael Saadiq…Johnny Taylor . Anthony Hamilton…Bill Withers. Who is this chick singing Teena Marie?

  • Miranda

    Evening thread is up!

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