November 28, 2014

Sunday Open Thread: Unwrapped

Raise your hand if you have a Hidden Beach “Unwrapped” CD.  The “Unwrapped” series – instrumental versions of rap/hip-hop hits by contemporary jazz artists – is very popular and increased Hidden Beach Recordings profile immensely from the first volume released.

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  • Miranda

    Injustice Facts ‏@InjusticeFacts
    More African American males work for AT&T from prison than from actual offices.

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      That’s interesting.

    • Alma98

      WOW!

  • Miranda

    Tha Carter IV is really making the teabaggers sad in Georgia….LOVE IT!!!The Georgia video connection between Mitt Romney and Chip Rogers
    9:00 am November 17, 2012, by jgalloway

    Mitt Romney and Chip Rogers have something in common.

    Both politicians — one an unsuccessful presidential nominee, the other an undone state Senate majority leader — have been stung by lengthy, Internet-posted video clips of scenes you were never meant to see.

    Their connection is more than coincidence. Both videos were the work products of a small coterie of young, tech-savvy Georgia Democrats out to change the way this state does politics.more here: http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2012/11/17/the-georgia-video-connection-between-mitt-romney-and-chip-rogers/

  • eclecticbrotha

    Off topic, but….

    This Israel/Palestine conversation is driving me batty. Chris Hayes has three guests who seem pretty knowledgeable on the subject, along with…..David Frum, who’s obviously there to make sure the interests of the AIPAC lobby are voiced. I find hispresence in the conversation pretty insulting.

    • crazycanuck

      rachel shabi ‏@rachshabi

      Can’t overestimate how much Israel’s media uses messages of support from Western leaders to validate action in #Gaza

      This is what Israel has ALWAYS done. No surprise. It’s disgusting what is going on in Gaza. I’m really tired of the excuses from Isreael to justify this massacre.

      • eclecticbrotha

        Apparently Frum is serving as resident turd-in-the-punch-bowl today. Now he’s shitting all over the discussion about Wal-Mart employees striking on Black Friday.

        • crazycanuck

          This is one thing, I cannot, simply cannot agree with your President about. It’s time this constant blank check to Isreal stops.

          • eclecticbrotha

            Its difficult for any president to get a sensible resolution in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict because so many politicians on both sides of the aisle are bought and paid for by AIPAC. Think back to Pres. Obama’s speech where he endorsed a two-state solution based on the 1967 borders with mutually agreed to land swaps. As soon as Obama made this statement – one which has been standard US policy for years before the president was even elected – the GOP attacked him and hardly anyone in his own party stood behind him. Add the fact Bibi Netanyahu continuously meddles in American foreign policy with the assistance of the Republican party and hard-liners in the Democratic Party and you end up with a lot of inertia when it comes to solving any issues where Israel is involved.

          • jds09

            In your opinion is J Street beginning to balance out AIPAC?

          • eclecticbrotha

            I doubt it. Bibi seems to be just as meddlesome as ever.

          • nellcote

            And it’s not just AIPAC, it’s also the christianists and their End Times drama that supports all things rightwing in Israel.

          • crazycanuck

            I’m thinking back on his speech in Egypt. Pres. Obama talked about both sides saying things behind closed doors. Maybe it’s time for the President to admit that people in his own party and AIPAC will not allow any the US to say anything against Israel.

          • Desraye

            “Maybe it’s time for the President to admit that people in his own party and AIPAC will not allow any the US to say anything against Israel.”

            He already know this.This is why there is no real effort for a resolution.No one has PBO back.

          • Ebogan63

            Alot of us dont agree with it CC, but unfortunately, it won’t change anytime soon.

    • goldenstar

      I learned a lot from today’s program: Noam Sheifaz, +927 magazine, was really good and that site is an independent journalist site w/ each journalist owning their own channel. very interesting.

      I am LOVING that there are 2 Walmart workers on the panel. This is really really good!!!!!

      And David Frum now has to deal with the reality of a Latino warehouse worker form Mira Loma who can’t get water on the job site and a retail worker who has 2 sons and his wife also works at Walmart.

      GREAT. TV.

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      Same here, EB. Propagandists like Frum need to be left out of the Israel/Palestine convo. I’m trying to learn the facts about this situation and people like Frum only frustrate and confuse me.

      BTW, I loved how the Noura Erakat turned Frum into a rambling fool with just one question.

      • crazycanuck

        I can’t see the Frum stuff, but someone on Twitter that I follow keeps tweeting Bibi and that man is disgusting, . Disgusting individual. I cannot look at those pictures anymore.

        • eclecticbrotha

          Haven’t there been rumblings about Bibi being on the outs politically? Don’t they have an election soon?

          • nellcote

            Yes elections this year. He’s scrambling to consolidate his right wing. And yes there are those to the right of Bibi.

          • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

            Do you think the killing of the Hamas leader was Bibi attempting to solidfy support with the right wing?

          • goldenstar

            YES!!!!!!

          • nellcote

            I don’t know if he was targeted or whether they just got “lucky”. But via a comment from elsewhere, Bibi may also be trying to drive a wedge between PBO and other muslim/arab/persian countries.

          • crazycanuck

            That is exactly it imo. That is his goal, and quite frankly it probably going to work. This has set things way back in the Arab world imo. The people in the Arab world will see as yet again all words and no action from the US. Unfortunetely I can’t blame them for thinking this.

  • GreenLadyHere

    Good -“REAL FAST” MORNTIN’ – -POU FAM♥ – — -***BIG HUG*** :>)

    Of course when I arise – -I hear –“creepy crowley” da –Israeli-Gaza- CONFLICT!!

    WHA’!?? — – -Sure he should jus’ run right ova their annnnnd stand in the middle of the GAZA STRIP annnd say – – -NOW Y’ALL jus’ STOP DIS!! – – -GO HOME!! – — –geesh

    Did I eva say that – – -I CAIN’T STAND her???? —-SAAAA-LAP!! :>)

    O.K. goin’ 2 calm down. :>)

    • edp4bho

      j”us’ run right ova their annnnnd stand in the middle of the GAZA STRIP annnd say – – -NOW Y’ALL jus’ STOP DIS!! – – -GO HOME!! – — –”

      GLH, thanks for my first belly laugh of the day. You’re a treasure…LOL !

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY edp4bho. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

        – – —LOL – – -Thank U. :>) —That “creepy crowley” brings out my sarcasm 2 da MAX!! :>)

        Annnnd I really do know how 2 spell the correct –“THERE.” – – – Just movin’ 2 fast. :>) – —

        Good 2 C U edp4bho. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    A RIGHTEOUS GOOD SUNDAY MORNTIN’ -POU FAM!♥ — “RISE –SINE – -GIVE GOD The GLORY”! — -HE HAS BLESSED US EITH A SECOND TERM 4 OUR BELOVED PRESIDENT. :>) – –

    – – — Obama in Thailand, Beginning Southeast Asia Trip – –

    – — - President Barack Obama is in Thailand at the start of a Southeast Asia trip focusing on the U.S. economic, political and security shift to Asia, and on democracy and human rights issues.

    Obama’s brief stay includes a visit to Wat Pho, the royal monastery in Bangkok.

    He then goes to a hospital in Bangkok and will have an audience with Thailand’s king, Bhumibol Adulyadej, a highly significant event with a monarch revered by the Thai people.

    – — -Sooooo PROUD of HIM!! – — :>) – -Woo. Hoo. – – – –

    – – – -ENJOY YOUR SPECIAL BREAKFAST/BRUNCH. :>) – – –

    B BLESSED♥. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM – – – -Here is hs arrival: — – -Woo! Hoo! – – –

    – -Video- President Obama arrives in Thailand for Southeast Asia trip – —

    ***tears*** – – – -annd – –***smiles*** -

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM — – – – -Annnd THIS is da TRUTH — -SINCE the MAJOR GOAL – –was 2 BLAME MR. PRESIDENT via – -ANB. RICE!! – —

    – – -Why a Benghazi Cover-Up Makes No Sense – –

    – — -he Economist: “At the most fundamental level, the reason it is absurd to suspect the existence of a ‘cover-up’ over the Benghazi attack is that such a cover-up could not have had any conceivable goal.”

    “Back to the beginning: the underlying accusation about Benghazi is that the Obama administration deliberately mischaracterised the terrorist attack there as having grown out of a spontaneous demonstration because that would be less politically damaging. Such a cover-up would have made no sense because the attack would not have been less politically damaging had it grown out of a spontaneous demonstration. The attack on the Benghazi compound would not have been any less politically difficult for the administration if it had grown out of a riot, nor would any normal voter have expected it to be less politically damaging, nor would any normal campaign strategist have expected any normal voter to have expected it to be less politically damaging.”

    [Sorry – –Gotta “bounce” early. :>) – -MISSIN’U/CARRYIN’ U —IN MY ♥ :>)

    Good luck on your NFL PICKS. B BLESSED♥ :>)]

    • nellcote

      We’ve clearly reached the point where making sense is no longer a priority for the goopers.

      • goldenstar

        I was thinking just this, but instead, John McCain has been trying to gain attention and the only way to get attention is to. act. a. fool. This is the new GOP way methodology.

        Pitiful.

        • BoomerGal

          McCain is just trying to stay relevant. He’s clearly on his way out, too.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY nellcote. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

        – —LOL – – -***fist bump*** – – – -I KNOW – -HUH!? – -LOL- –

        THAT’s ’cause dey STILL – – – –

        -“DAZED annnd CONFUSED” – — –at their –

        -LOSS!! – —HAH! – – -LOL – – –

        THIS is gon – —HURT 4 a LOOOOOOONG TIME!!! — HAH!

        Good 2 C U –nellcote. :>)

    • malletgirl02

      The Economist is a conservative magazine and is no fan of President Obama. If the Economist says that there is no coverup by the Obama administration then it is true.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Israel’s Shortsighted Assassination
    By GERSHON BASKIN

    […] I believe that Israel made a grave and irresponsible strategic error by deciding to kill Mr. Jabari. No, Mr. Jabari was not a man of peace; he didn’t believe in peace with Israel and refused to have any direct contact with Israeli leaders and even nonofficials like me. My indirect dealings with Mr. Jabari were handled through my Hamas counterpart, Ghazi Hamad, the deputy foreign minister of Hamas, who had received Mr. Jabari’s authorization to deal directly with me. Since Mr. Jabari took over the military wing of Hamas, the only Israeli who spoke with him directly was Mr. Shalit, who was escorted out of Gaza by Mr. Jabari himself. (It is important to recall that Mr. Jabari not only abducted Mr. Shalit, but he also kept him alive and ensured that he was cared for during his captivity.)

    Passing messages between the two sides, I was able to learn firsthand that Mr. Jabari wasn’t just interested in a long-term cease-fire; he was also the person responsible for enforcing previous cease-fire understandings brokered by the Egyptian intelligence agency. Mr. Jabari enforced those cease-fires only after confirming that Israel was prepared to stop its attacks on Gaza. On the morning that he was killed, Mr. Jabari received a draft proposal for an extended cease-fire with Israel, including mechanisms that would verify intentions and ensure compliance. This draft was agreed upon by me and Hamas’s deputy foreign minister, Mr. Hamad, when we met last week in Egypt.

    The goal was to move beyond the patterns of the past. For years, it has been the same story: Israeli intelligence discovers information about an impending terrorist attack from Gaza. The Israeli Army takes pre-emptive action with an airstrike against the suspected terror cells, which are often made up of fighters from groups like Islamic Jihad, the Popular Resistance Committees or Salafi groups not under Hamas’s control but functioning within its territory. These cells launch rockets into Israeli towns near Gaza, and they often miss their targets. The Israeli Air Force responds swiftly. The typical result is between 10 and 25 casualties in Gaza, zero casualties in Israel and huge amounts of property damage on both sides.

    MORE: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/17/opinion/israels-shortsighted-assassination.html

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Stay classy, Dump Trump.

    LoriK ‏@Redheadsays
    Here’s how Donald Trump is helping his employees after hurricane Sandy. Nice guy. @goangelo pic.twitter.com/ffIZGAVs

    • goldenstar

      This should be blown out through the news outlets. How dare this business be situated in this devastated region and turn against the people of the region. He’s a hypocrite and all these journalists should call this what it is.

      • conlakappa

        He is of course effectively outsourcing taking care of his employees to the feds. All kinds of class.

  • jds09

    One of the many reasons I love Black people so much….

    “After collecting the data, the team built a mathematical model that captures the large-scale flow of new words between cities. The model revealed that cities with big African American populations tend to lead the way in linguistic innovation. The team is still working on a more detailed analysis and says it is too early to say which cities are the most influential.”

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21628916.300-twitter-shows-language-evolves-in-cities.html

    Our out-sized influence on the American culture is a thing of beauty.

    • eclecticbrotha

      Between playing the dozens and the imaginative nicknames blacks tend to give one another, this comes as no surprise.

    • nellcote

      I love the way AAs EXPAND the language in contrast to the way the goopers CORRUPT the language.

  • jds09

    This is a great read. I felt the energy this commenter writes about in San Diego. The diversity in the campaign office (located smack dab in the middle of the hood) was inspiring. It HAD to change folks on a fundamental level.

    “A couple of thoughts about the election:

    I’m from Boise, Idaho but my wife and I relocated to Ohio to volunteer for President Obama’s campaign for the four weeks before the election.

    I admire Nate Silver for his election model and its forecasts; they are one of the few things I read about politics while we were on duty and they gave me a lot of hope during those dark days after the first debate and while the skewed Gallup polls were coming out. But I want to add that there was a huge army of people who tried to make sure that the polls that Nate used turned into actual votes.

    snip…

    I believe that our democracy was at serious risk this election. If we had lost to lies, a torrent of dark money, voter suppression, and racism, it might have taken decades for our democracy to come back from the bad laws and court decisions on further voter suppression and corporate power, if it could recover at all. Certainly beyond my lifetime since I’m 67. But people seemed to sense the crisis and responded, and folks from all walks of life joined together to do one extra-ordinary thing: re-elect an African American President in a time of high unemployment and in the face of everything the would be aristocracy could throw at us. I certainly sensed more determination and intensity at the door than I did (in a different suburb) in 2008.”

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/11/just_read_this_1.php?ref=fpblg

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    MTP’s senior producer shows his GOP card..

    AdamVerdugo AdamVerdugo ‏@AdamVerdugo
    Senator Lindsey Graham fired up on @meetthepress this morning. Must see TV. #MTP

    • nellcote

      It could just be the ever present NBC brand promotion.

      • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

        “Lean Forward….And Kiss GOP Ass”

        • creolechild

          Come on, Sepia, now I have to go find my inhaler! (:

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Sometimes, asking one simple question can shut down EmoProg/Ivory Tower concern trolling: http://twitter.com/mqsawyer/status/270197385441976322

    • Ebogan63

      I really dont’ give a fuck about drones, neither does anyone else except for the Ivory Tower crew.

      • rikyrah

        I’ll say it again:

        never saw this kind of concern for terrorists when a WHITE MAN was President.

        • AxelFoley

          Thank you, thank you, thank you!

          These the same mofos talmbout bin Laden didn’t get a fair trial. I can give less than a single fuck about bin Laden or any other terrorist’s rights. They gave up their rights when they infringed on the rights of others. And if you abet terrorists, you catch the same heat they do.

  • creolechild

    Walmart’s International Bribery Probe Widens to China, Brazil and India

    [….] Walmart (WMT) announced Thursday that an internal investigation into bribery accusations, originating in Mexico, has broadened to include operations in Brazil, China and India. The disclosure came in a Securities and Exchange Commission filing tied to third-quarter financial results. The widening inquiry was more bad news for the Arkansas-based multinational: Revenue and fourth quarter profit outlook came in lower than analysts had expected.[….]

    Read more: http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/11/16/walmart-mexican-bribery-probe-china-brazil-india/

    H/T Eamon Murphy

  • creolechild

    57 Percent Of Small Business Owners Say Tax Increases On Wealthy Would Do Less Harm Than Spending Cuts |

    57 percent of small business owners say raising taxes on the wealthy would do less harm to the economy than spending cuts to job training, infrastructure investment, and education, according to a poll from the liberal group Small Business Majority. Automatic spending cuts and tax increases are set to take effect at the end of the year, but despite Republican arguments that letting the high-income Bush tax cuts expire at the end of the year would hurt small businesses, small business owners are more concerned about budget cuts. An earlier poll from the same group found that a majority wanted Congress to focus on a plan to create jobs rather than on deficit reduction.

    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/11/15/1195451/small-business-tax-increases/

    H/T Travis Waldron

  • creolechild

    Pure, unadulterated thievery. ‘Nuff said…

    JPMorgan, Credit Suisse Settle SEC Mortgage Inquiries

    JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Credit Suisse Group AG agreed to pay almost $417 million to settle U.S. regulatory claims they misled investors while selling billions of dollars of investments linked to home loans. JPMorgan resolved claims that it made misstatements about delinquency data for loans packaged into securities and that Bear Stearns Cos., which the bank acquired in 2008, didn’t tell mortgage investors it kept reimbursements on soured loans[….] Credit Suisse was also faulted for disclosures on reimbursements.[….]

    For JPMorgan Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon, whose firm is forfeiting $296.9 million in the SEC deal, the claims add to a growing list of regulatory costs from the housing bubble, a botched bet on credit derivatives and an energy- trading probe. Since mid-2011, the bank also has been sued by state and federal watchdogs over sales of mortgage-backed securities to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and loans sold to investors by Bear Stearns.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-16/jpmorgan-settles-with-sec-over-mortgage-backed-securities.html

    H/T Dawn Kopecki, Tom Schoenberg and Donal Griffin

  • creolechild

    Vehicle And Engine Importers To Pay Civil Penalty To Resolve Clean Air Act Violations / Senior company executives jointly liable for consent decree obligations

    The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the Department of Justice announced a settlement with two former importers of highway motorcycles, recreational vehicles, and small spark ignition engines. The defendants, Yuan Cheng International Group, Inc. (YCIG) and NST, Inc. (NST), located in Montclair, Calif., allegedly imported and sold vehicles and engines from China in violation of Clean Air Act requirements.[….]

    The settlement requires the companies and Mr. John Cheng and Ms. Jenny Yu, senior company executives, to pay a combined civil penalty of $50,000. This amount is based on the United States’ determination that the parties have a limited ability to pay a civil penalty in this matter. Both companies have ceased importing vehicles and engines and are now dissolved. [….]

    Read more: http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/d0cf6618525a9efb85257359003fb69d/18c022a79ac5c7d885257ab60053fad6!OpenDocument

  • Alma98

    Good morning all.

  • rikyrah

    Good morning, Everyone :)

  • Alma98

    O/T Have any of you heard about a man in Florida who killed himself because PBO was reelected? My son was telling me the man owned a tanning salon and was mentally ill, I hadn’t heard about it.

    • Tafr

      Yup he was a gay man. Left a suicide note that said F the president.

      • Alma98

        OMG are you kidding me wth is wrong with people? I’ll have to find the story, thanks Tafr. WOW!

        • Miranda

          here it is, I read about it last weekhttp://www.miamiherald.com/2012/11/13/3095844/man-apparently-kills-himself-over.html he was diagnosed with schizophrenia.

          • Alma98

            Thank You Miranda as I said above I wonder if he listened to Rush and fox news. smh

          • Aquagranny911

            Nailed it. Plus it seems that people around the guy ignored his talk of suicide which he was doing before the election.

          • Alma98

            I agree with you AG. They should have told his doctor Seroquel is some strong medicine.

        • Tafr

          I heard about this from the Stephanie Miller show. Stephanie seemed so disappointed that a gay man would have such dislike for this president. Miller never did say if the man was mentally unstable or not.

          This happens on both sides. When Bush stole the last election a young man flung himself from a bridge in protest. Sorry I cannot remember what state this happened in.You know most of these people are mentally ill.

          • Alma98

            Such a shame.

      • Alma98

        OMG are you kidding me wth is wrong with people? I’ll have to find the story, thanks Tafr. WOW!

    • malletgirl02

      That is crazy. Killing ones self, because ones candidate lose? Obama is only going to be president 4 more years.

      • Alma98

        Just crazy, I was wondering if he watched a lot of fox news or listened to Limbaugh’s nutty rants.

    • Aquagranny911

      I read about that. The poor guy was Looney Tunes. He was talking about killing himself well before the election. Someone close to him should have taken this seriously & intervened but apparently they thought it was “just talk.”

      • Alma98

        As I said down thread I don’t think he had Schizophrenia he was just depressed because of his business. I think people thought he had a mental illness because he was taking Seroquel. But it’s also prescribed for stress and anxiety. he shouldn’t have been taking it at his age 64yrs old, it only makes the problems worse.

        • Aquagranny911

          I saw that comment & don’t get me started on psychotropic meds which are often worse than the dis-ease they pretend to treat. Big Pharma & those who dispense their poison have a lot to answer for the torture they put some people through.

          My point & what I got from what I read about this is that this poor guy was basically ignored when he kept talking about wanting to kill himself. Someone should have listened to him.

          My personal rule has always been that when someone talks like this…believe & try to intervene by actually listening.

    • morphus

      Here’s article: Tanning Salon Owner Writes ‘F*** Obama’ On His Will Before Committing Suicide – http://dalethaltongue.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/tanning-salon-owner-writes-f-obama-on-his-will-before-committing-suicide/

  • crazycanuck

    And you all think you have problems with separatists

    Parti Quebecois government makes formal request to yank Maple Leaf from assembly

    QUEBEC – The new Parti Quebecois government has taken steps to officially yank the Canadian flag out of the provincial legislature.

    The ornate upper chamber of the legislature, which is used for committee meetings and special ceremonies, is the last place in the building where the Maple Leaf still hangs.

    Yves Francois Blanchet, the government whip, made a formal request to remove the Canadian flag yesterday, on the 36th anniversary of the election of the first PQ government in 1976.

    That government, under then-premier Rene Levesque, was actually the first to put the Quebec flag in the legislature chamber where the daily debates take place in 1976 and then the upper chamber in 1983.

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/parti-quebecois-government-makes-formal-request-yank-maple-175322874.html

  • rikyrah

    A New Southern Strategy

    Election Day results at Southern polling places reflected the same urban-rural divide that appeared everywhere else.

    By KAREN L. COX

    Published: November 17, 2012

    IT’S tough being a Southern liberal. In the postelection analysis of the past two weeks, pundits have made hay of the fact that while Barack Obama won the election, Mitt Romney won the Confederacy. Or as Jon Stewart put it, “most of the Confederacy.”

    After Mr. Romney carried the lion’s share of the region’s electoral votes, people were quick to pounce. One person on Twitter wrote, “I always knew the Zombie Apocalypse would start in the Southern States.” On Facebook, in a widely shared image comparing the 2012 electoral map with the map of former slave states, the individual who posted it wrote, “Sometimes change is really hard, especially when people don’t want to change.”

    That we are still using the term “Confederacy” to describe the South and pointing to slave maps says a lot about how hard it is for the region to move beyond its historical reputation, however richly deserved, for one that reflects more current realities.

    Voters in Charlotte, N.C., Atlanta, Nashville, New Orleans, Birmingham, Ala., and even Jackson, Miss., gave Mr. Obama substantial majorities, not because they are out of step with the rest of the country but because they are part of the same urban-rural divide that drives voting everywhere.

    So if we’re going to apply the term “Confederacy,” then perhaps we can all agree that while a majority of Southern white voters seem intransigent to change, the region is nevertheless being transformed by its changing demographics.

    Virginia, home to the capital of the Confederacy, went for Mr. Obama. Florida, part of the original Confederacy, also went for Mr. Obama. North Carolina, which Mr. Obama carried in 2008, went to Mr. Romney, but by a very slim margin — more attributable to the economy and job losses than to any conspiracy of Confederate dunces.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/18/opinion/sunday/a-new-southern-strategy.html?_r=1&

    • jds09

      Rove is making noise about a 50 state strategy. Bring. It. On.

      • rikyrah

        Rove is making noise about a 50 state strategy.

        that’s his latest grift. give me another 300 million, and you’ll get a ground game.

        uh huh.

        sure.

  • rikyrah

    TPM2012

    Obama’s Approval Rating, Popularity Spike After Election

    Tom Kludt-November 16, 2012, 2:28 PM

    There may not be a consensus yet on how much political capital President Obama picked up in his re-election, but a number of post-election polls suggest his victory did wonders for his public standing.

    A USA Today/Gallup survey released on Friday showed Obama and his party drawing goodwill from much of the country in the wake of their triumph at the ballot box last week. Fifty-eight percent of Americans have a favorable view of the president — up 3 points from the USA Today/Gallup poll conducted right before the election. It’s also his highest favorability rating in the poll since July of 2009.

    The public’s view of Democrats is also positive in the wake of a largely successful election for the party. Fifty-one percent of those surveyed have a favorable impression of the party, a 6-point bump since August and a more impressive showing than the 43 percent who have a favorable view of the Republican Party. Fifty percent have an unfavorable opinion of the GOP, although Gallup notes that “Americans have been negative on balance toward the Republican Party since late 2005.”

    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/11/obama-approval-favorability-bounce.php

  • rikyrah

    Israel is Making a Mistake

    by BooMan
    Sun Nov 18th, 2012 at 12:23:27 PM EST

    It hardly matters to the Palestinians and Israelis who are facing aerial bombardment, but one downside of the fighting in the Middle East is that it is overshadowing the president’s trip to Southeast Asia. In my opinion, the timing of this escalation of fighting was at Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu’s choosing. He waited until after the U.S. election, but there was no particular reason to assassinate a Hamas leader on the eve of the president’s trip. Reading between the lines of this New York Times piece, it could not be clearer that the administration is angry with Israel for picking a fight right now and is deeply opposed to any incursion into the Gaza Strip.
    The timeline of events is controversial, of course, as there is never really a beginning and an end to events in Israel and Palestine. And once rockets begin to fall on the outskirts of Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, the Israeli government feels compelled to keep fighting until the threat is eliminated. Yet, I think this just highlights how the status quo is not manageable for Israel. What they have done so far in this latest flare-up is to reveal that Hamas has longer-range rockets and can inflict unacceptable damage to Israel’s urban centers. They can periodically “mow the grass” in the Gaza Strip and go in, kill a bunch of people, and remove the rockets. But they can’t keep doing that and maintain their peace agreements with Egypt and Jordan. They can’t sustain the kind of moral condemnation they receive from the international community every time they feel compelled to remove the threat.

    At root, the problem is their determination to expand the settlements in the absence of any progress towards a Palestinian state. Even the United States government and its people do not see that as a fair and just policy. Israel it totally alone in pursuing this deteriorating status-quo. And it is going to start putting some serious strain on the U.S.-Israeli relationship very soon now.

    http://www.boomantribune.com/

  • malletgirl02

    I know this is entirely random, but I hate “Gone with the Wind”. It makes me angry that this racist film that celebrates an idealized “old south” irritates me. The slaves are portrayed as happy, and when those same slaves leave after being liberated by the Union army they are portrayed as being bad for doing this. Also I resent being force to feel sorry for miss Scarlet O’hara and the other slave owners.

    Gone with the Wind is not the only racist movie, it is just one of the more clearly racist one. Most are more sneakily racist. One of the those are is his Girl Friday. This movie is from the 1940s. This movie is a remake of a movie called “The Front Page” which was made in the 1930s.This is the plot, a white man kills a black police officer, and the white man gets the death penalty for killing the police officer. The white reporters are trying save the white man who killed the black police officer. The black people are portrayed as blood thirsty for not wanting clemency for the white guy who killed the black police. The black people are also portrayed of supporting corrupted officials.

    Through all of this not one black person is seen. While we hear from the wife of the white man who killed the police officer, when don’t even get a glimpse of the black police officer’s widow. The Roslind Russell character refers the black people as “the blacks”. Also one of the reporters uses the racial slur “pickananny”. I know I spelled it wrong, but since it is a racial slur used especially against a young black girl I refused to Google it.

    I apologize for the rant. I would like Pragmatic Obots to do a series on the racism of Hollywood.

    • Alma98

      You’re not the only one malletgirl, I have never watched it as an adult. There a lot of old films that I hated as I got older. I agree racism in Hollywood is still prevalent and needs to be talked about.

      • malletgirl02

        Thank you for your response. What makes me especially irate is that many of these racist films, such as the two I mentioned in my first post are celebrated by mainstream Hollywood.

        • Alma98

          I find it interesting that they took some old Warner Bros cartoons out of circulation. They said they were racially insensitive, but won’t touch any of these old movies.

          • Aquagranny911

            That was probably a “token” because old cartoons don’t make them the big $$$ but films still do.

          • Alma98

            You’re probably right AG. I forgot that they show them on AMC and TCM.

          • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

            I remember this one Bugs Bunny cartoon that the tv stations would always cut off before it ended. In the scene, Bugs is about to be executed and he’s asked if he has any last wishes. So he says, “I wish…I wish…” and they would cut straight to commercial. I would be like, “Why they cut if off??”.

            Well, one day somebody must’ve been sleep at the tv station because the cartoon played in it’s entirety, and the edited part was Bugs singing “Dixie” in black face!

          • vulcan_girl

            I was in college before I realized just HOW racist some of those were, especially the ones about WWII.

          • BoomerGal

            Personally, I hope they continue to show them for future generations. It should be viewed as a learning experience and apart of America’s history that should not be forgotten.

          • malletgirl02

            I agree, movies are like time capsules, and although for the most part are fiction they are reveal the attitudes of the past.

    • Miranda

      I dont even think that topic could be sufficiently covered in a week. Its unbelievable to me, but Birth of a Nation is even revered by filmmakers and its the most racist film ever.

    • Aquagranny911

      I’ve never seen either of these two films. I did read part of the book “Gone With the Wind” when I was about 13. I didn’t like it so I never finished it. I thought Scarlet O’hara to be a selfish, cruel & ruthless person.

      • Town

        She was selfish, cruel & ruthless:

        Married Husband #1 to spite Ashley Wilkes’ sister even as pined for Ashley and wanted to lure him away from Melanie

        Was mean to Rhett Butler (until she found out he had some money)

        Tried to get Ashley to leave Melanie & their son to run away with her

        Stole her sister’s husband and married him for money

        Didn’t care about her 1st two kids (Melanie probably gave them love and care)

        Set up a business and encouraged Ashley to be her business partner so she could stay close to him

        Hired prison labor and allowed the overseer to beat them (everyone warned her NOT to do this)

        Was the cause of a KKK raid on the prison labor camp after one of them attacked her (Husband #2 was killed in the raid)

        Got engaged to Husband #3 for money (Rhett) while at the funeral of Husband #2

        After giving birth to his child, refused to have sex with Rhett so she could pine after Ashley

        Came on to Ashley at the office (his sister saw and RANTOLDAT) —–> This is when Rhett raped her

        After a series of fights and deaths of children, raced to Melanie’s side as she lay dying, thinking of Ashley

        After seeing how pathetic and weak Ashley was after Melanie died, decided she really did love Rhett but it was too late b/c he told her he didn’t give a damn, deuces.

        And the story ends with her thinking of a new scheme to put in place the next day.

        But Scarlett is who we’re supposed to idolize, huh? LOL

        • Aquagranny911

          Thank you for that synopsis. Now I’m even more glad I didn’t trash my mind any further by reading that whole book.

          Please don’t laugh at me but the only reason I got that book from the library was that someone told me there was sex in it. But if you have to read “eleventy” too many pages to get to the “so called sex parts” and you despise the “so called heroine” after the first two chapters…well, when you are 13 you look for better stuff.

          Remember my age & the times I lived in, lol. All I wanted to do at 13 was read about steamy hot sex, which was not exactly that easy to find then.

          • nellcote

            remember Peyton Place?

          • Aquagranny911

            Yeah but the best thing I read around that time was Errol Flynn’s autobiography. I found it hidden in my brother’s stash.

            Flynn banged (or claimed he did) practically every actress in Hollywood & wrote about it in great detail. The man had amazing stamina & energy to have had an acting career & such a busy sex life.

            Even if he made half of it up, I did enjoy the hell out of that book!

    • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

      I can’t stand it either and I like Clark Gable and Vivian Leigh. One of things I was struck by was not only the glorification of slavery and farcical rewriting of Reconstruction but their open contempt for poor Whites. When GWTW premiered in Atlanta every working class White person should have rioted. Instead they went all nostalgic pining for the days when Southern aristocracy treated their ancestors like dirt.

      • malletgirl02

        You are very right Woody45. The whole feudal plantation system was not only brutal for black people, but bad for poor whites. In addition to not being treated well by the aristocracy in the south, they were probably left with very little land to farm, due to the plantations taking up all the land. It amazes me that a working class white person would be nostalgic for the old south.

        • BoomerGal

          Because they are W-H-I-T-E! THAT makes up for everything . It still envokes PRIVILEGE and ENTITLEMENT.

          • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

            No it doesn’t. Not in that part of the country. Lineage is still a big deal. Not saying they can’t climb the rung higher than Black people but as MLK told them once they should be marching with him.

          • Town

            People in Virginia still boast about how they are the great great great great whatever of X pilgrim from Jamestown or Thomas Jefferson or whoever.

          • BoomerGal

            Oh but it DOES! I don’t know the last time you’ve been down there but I know for myself, it absolutly still exists! Why do you think Mitch McConnell is the way he is and people like Haley Barbour??!! MLK?? Do you realize how long ago that’s been?? They didn’t like MLK THEN and don’t think much of him NOW!!

          • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

            I live down here. You’re not saying anything I don’t know.
            And your missing the point about MLK. He knew they hated him but he knew their condition and ancestry better than they did that’s why he told them while in jail that they needed to march with him.

            As for those folks waving the Confederate flag they invented the term self delusional. They have no privlege other than THINKING they are better than Black People. Nothing has changed in their world just like their ancestors they remain poor and broke.

      • BoomerGal

        Contempt or not, poor or not, THEY WERE STILL BETTA THAN BLACK FOLKS!! That same mindset exists to this day!

        • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

          Nobody said otherwise. It’s an observation about that particular mindset.

      • Town

        only the glorification of slavery and farcical rewriting of Reconstruction but their open contempt for poor Whites. When GWTW premiered in Atlanta every working class White person should have rioted. Instead they went all nostalgic pining for the days when Southern aristocracy treated their ancestors like dirt.
        ————————————

        Exactly! And here’s the thing: Scarlett & her sisters were only accepted into high society because THEIR MOTHER was part of Southern high society. Their dad was an Irish immigrant. Their asses were BROKE when the white trash overseer came to buy the plantation, but Scarlett still thought she was better than him so she threw the dirt in his face. Then she went to Atlanta to whore herself out to Rhett Butler for the tax money, but when that didn’t work, she whored herself out to her sister’s fiance, who had money.

        Think about that: Scarlett thought she was above the overseer’s wife b/c the overseer’s wife had several of his kids outside of wedlock, but she herself whored herself out to TWO men for money (in fact, got engaged to Husband #3 while at the funeral of Husband #2).

        If that’s not trashy……………..paging Jerry Springer……….

        But it’s alright as long as you’re white……………….

        • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

          And the overseer had done the right thing by marrying the girl he got pregnant!!

          “but Scarlett still thought she was better than him so she threw the dirt in his face.”

          That was another scene that had me doing a double take. Scarlett lit into the overseer like he was General Grant himself. Then her old man started chasing him and his girl with a gun after they had already decided to leave. Luckily a Union tree jumped in his path and thwarted that fool notion.

          • Town

            I liked how Scarlett looked down on the town prostitute like she wasn’t doing the same thing with Husbands #2 & #3. Only difference between Scarlett and the prostitute is Scarlett got her johns to put a ring on it.

    • jds09
    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      Another movie that will piss you off is Band of Angels starring, coincidentally, Clark Gable, Yvonne De Carlo and Sidney Poitier. I can’t even begin to tell how racist and offensive this film is.

      It takes place during the Enslavement Period. Yvonne De Carlo’s character is the daughter of a plantation owner. When he dies, she finds out her mother was one of her daddy’s slaves. Yep, she’s Black. Her father’s property, including her, are sold off to pay his debts. Gable’s character in an ex-slave trader/current slave owner who buys her to replace his Black enslaved concubine — who, by the way, is oh so love with Gable and becomes De Carlo’s servant. At the end, Gable sets De Carlo free, but instead of heading North, ol’ girl stays with him because she’s in love with him.

      In one scene, they went so far as to show the slaves welcoming Gable home with open arms with a big ol’ operatic singing number.

      • rikyrah

        I remember that one, and even being young went..W-T-F?

    • BoomerGal

      That series would take about a MONTH!

    • Town

      I actually like Gone With The Wind because it’s a complete lie. It’s a fairy tale where white people constructed this fantasy South of mint juleps and cotillions and happy Negroes who were beneath them and served them.

      But it’s a lie constructed by weak people (personified in Ashley Wilkes) who dream of yesteryear and refuse to get with the program of TODAY.

      Scarlett believed in this fantasy South so much (again personified in Ashley Wilkes) that she stopped having sex with her husband Rhett (New South) so she could pine away for Ashley (Old South).

      In order to believe this fantasy, you HAVE to believe black people were simple minded Negroes. That’s the only way this fairy tale works.

      The author of the book and the people who idolize this story are weak and feeble minded like Ashley Wilkes, pining away for a South that never was and never will be again. So many women love them some Scarlett from the movie…………..the actress’ ass wasn’t even American!

  • rikyrah

    Look in the Mirror

    by BooMan
    Sun Nov 18th, 2012 at 08:41:28 AM EST

    Here is an Australian point of view on Mitt Romney and the presidential election.

    In the minds of many critics, Mr Romney’s comments about Mr Obama’s “gifts” reinforces the idea that he lacked empathy with voters to start with. Many Republicans were lukewarm about their candidate: he was seen as the best of a lacklustre field.
    In September, Mr Romney suffered much political flak, including from his own side, when he was reported as having told wealthy donors in Florida that he did not care about the 47 per cent of Americans who considered themselves victims.

    Mitt Romney doesn’t act like he failed. He acts like he was betrayed or cheated. He ought to look in the mirror and ask himself why everyone in the United Kingdom hates his guts. He is a very unpleasant man. No one likes him. That’s the beginning point for understanding why he lost. He probably thinks he wasn’t enough of a jerk. After all, the only jump he ever got in the polls was a reward for a debate performance in which he treated the president with disrespect and told about seventy-five lies. His base likes it when people tell lies about the president. But his base isn’t big enough to win a national election. Mitt Romney lost for a lot of reasons, but the most glaring reason is that he is a dick.

    http://www.boomantribune.com/

  • crazycanuck

    OMG, what a piece of… urg I can’t even find the words.

    Politicolnews ‏@Politicolnews

    This is what Netanyahu (Unaware of Camera) thinks of America, Another Mitt Romney: http://youtu.be/JrtuBas3Ipw via @youtube #Israel #Gaza

    • Alma98

      What an ass and he is wrong about 80% of Americans supporting him. It’s time for him to go he’s a dangerous and unstable man.

    • Ebogan63

      He has always been a POS. Israel needs to stop putting guys like this in power.

    • malletgirl02

      So Netanyahu thinks the tail, (Israel) is wagging the dog (US)?

  • dannie22

    i admit i have limited knowledge of the situation in gaza, but it would seem to me that its time for the world to step up when it comes to israel. Its time for the world to treat israel the way they treated South Africa when it was time to end apartheid. PBO is hamstrung when it comes to israel because our congress is owned by aipac. Other governments must know this. What is stopping other countries from stepping in and divesting in israel?

    • Alma98

      ICAM!

    • crazycanuck

      I agree 100%

    • http://twitter.com/#!/JamilaJP QOakaJP

      I admit I cringe every time our leaders and representatives go out of their way to declare their loyalty to Israel. There’s always a sense of desperation behind it. What have they done to earn such loyalty and respect? I honestly don’t get it.

      • crazycanuck

        Me either, add to that Israel is always treating the United States like fools. I just don’t get it

    • jds09

      Maybe something is shifting…looking at the images of dead children coming via twitter and Bibi’s asshole comments combined with the worldwide esteem PBO has, I hoping PBO has some room to move.

      • crazycanuck

        Hope you are right

  • Aquagranny911

    I was just over on last night’s thread leaving a response to Camille’s excellent post & analysis of this concerted Susan Rice attack. It’s well worth the read for any who missed it.

    But I had another thought. What are the residency requirements for MA? Do you suppose that the Clinton’s want to have Hillary run for Kerry’s seat if he takes SoS so then she could use that for her spring board to the presidency in 2016?

    Just asking…..

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      HRC already got away with carpetbagging her way into the NY Senate seat. I don’t think she can get away with taking over Kerry’s seat.

      • Aquagranny911

        Hope not but then I got another thought…Governor of NY or maybe Mayor of NYC? When are those dudes up for re-election.

        We will have to wait & see & even though I don’t like the Clintons much, maybe we are putting on too much tin foil here. We could be reading in too much about when Hillary said she wanted to be done with SoS after 2014. It has been a grueling job & she had recently lost her mother when she said that.

        Just from an elder person’s perspective, the things you did so easily when you were young become so much harder as you age plus deaths & losses do hit you harder. It reminds folks that life gets shorter & it does end for all of us.

  • http://themidnightsolution.blogspot.com LTMidnight
    • Alma98

      Interesting I wonder if America is stupid enough to let him in the white house?

      • crazycanuck

        They let George bush in

        • Ebogan63

          Stephen Harper?

          • crazycanuck

            oh shut up

          • Ebogan63

            Just some gentle ribbing, cc! :)

          • crazycanuck

            yeah, yeah

          • MsKitty

            Well, Harper does have a nice head of hair. So there’s that.

      • Ebogan63

        Reagan got elected twice, nuff said.

      • BoomerGal

        The U.S. hasn’t had an obese president since Taft! I doubt if they start now.

    • rikyrah

      until he loses 100 pounds, he’s not serious.

      • sagittarius

        He needs to lose closer to 150 pounds. He appears to weigh more than 300 pounds.

        • Lisa M

          I’m thinking closer to 400 lbs.

      • Aquagranny911

        I would be the last person to criticize a person for being over weight but it looks seriously unhealthy for a man that small boned to be such a size.

        The American people do want their presidents healthy enough not to keel over from a massive heart attack in the middle of something important.

        Besides Christie has all the tact & charm of a broken toothed javalina. His demeanor might be okay in some parts of New Jersey but will not play in other places.

        He bought some points for acting decent with PBO over Sandy storm but that is not enough to get him elected prez, imo.

        • MsKitty

          And before anything else he has to get through next year. It’s looking more and more like Cory Booker (aka King of the Twitters) is going to take Christie on, though he is playing coy at the moment about running.

          As for us long-suffering Jerseyites, it’s back to the lesser of two evils for 2013. Sigh.

          • Aquagranny911

            SIGHS back at you from AZ!

      • angee

        The PL/emoprog are already singing his praises and that the only one who can save us is billary.
        Another thing, he’ll go on TV and talk junk bout Lorenzo but like the mayor of AC said, “Be a man and let’s got mano to mano face to face!” christie got the media/dems fooled but Lorenzo know krispy ain’t REALLY bout that life and he ain’t no punk lile cory… Oops sorry Dannie lol.

      • Alma98

        Make that about160.

        • AxelFoley

          I’ma up it to 200.

          • Alma98

            LOL!

    • Admiral_Komack

      He won’t get far.

      • vulcan_girl

        Heh.

  • sagittarius

    Afternoon, Fam:

    I hope all is well. If you haven’t had a chance to read Camille’s excellent comment in yesterday’s evening thread, please do so. It is a thing of beauty.

    Having said that, I was on Twitter where 3 Chics Politico (the blog led by Ametia, Southern Girl and Rikyrah) asked a darned good question:

    3ChicsPolitico ‏@3ChicsPolitico
    Where is Hillary’s defense of Ambassador Rice?

    Yeah – where is it? That’s the question we need to push back and ask. Hillary, why haven’t you defended your colleague?

  • sagittarius

    OK – do I need to clear my cache? I attempted to edit my comment and it was flagged for review!

  • Alexander2

    Black Girls Can’t Govern — Maureen Dowd
    November 18, 2012
    Source: NYTX

    In a New York Times column titled “Is Rice Cooked?” Maureen Dowd writes about the controversy surrounding United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice and the Sunday talk show appearances Rice made five days after the September 11 assassinations of Americans in Benghazi, Libya. I don’t normally read any article slugged in the form of a question because I can be pretty sure the writer doesn’t answer the question. But, silly me, I figured Dowd might offer a full-throated defense of Rice against the unfounded, discredited blatherings of Several Geezers in Search of a Scandal. Instead, it appears Dowd hopes that one of her recipes for Skewered Rice, Rice-Raked-over-Coals or Fricassee of Valerie Jarrett will win a bake-off. It might, if she got points for half-baked. . .

    Maybe it’s just me. I find it curious and more than a bit disconcerting that Dowd reserves almost all of her criticism for accomplished black women. The only man she criticizes is President Obama (hey, he’s black, too!), and she frames that criticism in layers of sexual innuendo. Obama showed “virile flare” in defending Rice against McCain’s attacks, Dowd writes. He went “mano a mano” with McCain. The President was “protecting a diplomatic damsel in distress.” We are supposed to see Susan Rice and Valerie Jarrett as “All the President’s Girls.” . . .

    Meanwhile, Dowd masks and bolsters the Republicans’ unfounded accusations. If Dowd thinks the intelligence community was too cautious in its initial assessment, or too opaque in its early releases to the public, why doesn’t she say so? Instead of faulting the authors of the talking points – you know, older white guys like former CIA director David Petraeus and NSA Director James Clapper – she fingers the spokeswoman. Just like John McCain & Lindsey Graham, Dowd blames the messenger. And just like McCain and Graham, Dowd relies on phony assertions to do so. Indeed, Dowd cannot criticize McCain and Graham because she’s fishing in the same cesspool of half-truths and innuendo favored by the Old White Boys’ Resentment Club. Not surprisingly, Dowd catches the same variety of sexist, racist carp the GOP anglers so commonly nab bare-handed.

    https://www.nytexaminer.com/2012/11/black-girls-cant-govern-maureen-dowd/

    • Aquagranny911

      Inquiring minds want to know….

      Why is no one questioning Eric Cantor’s nasty fingers in this pie?

      As for Dowd, bitter, nasty, & I hope to soon be relegated to old hagdom & I, myself, can say this as one old hag to another…”Maureen, please work at becoming a respected elder or take a seat on my cactus!”

      That is all!

    • rikyrah

      you read that stupid bitch so that I don’t have to.

    • MsKitty

      The only man she criticizes is President Obama (hey, he’s black, too!), and she frames that criticism in layers of sexual innuendo.

      Can’t tell you how happy it makes me that more and more people are starting to notice what the POU fam picked up on years ago.

      • AxelFoley

        Thank you.

        Someone get Maureen a black dildo and some Energizer batteries and send her on her way.

    • GreenLadyHere

      HEEY ALEXANDER2 – – – -***BIG HUG*** :>)

      – —***hands out BAND AIDS – — -annnnnd – — SCHEDULES SURGERY – – –OTOH — -Naaaaah!!!*** – – -I’ll leave her 2 FEND 4 herself with the SMALL BAND AIDS!! – – -LOL

      – – -THIS – -> But, silly me, I figured Dowd might offer a full-throated defense of Rice against the unfounded, discredited blatherings of Several Geezers in Search of a Scandal. Instead, it appears Dowd hopes that one of her recipes for Skewered Rice, Rice-Raked-over-Coals or Fricassee of Valerie Jarrett will win a bake-off. It might, if she got points for half-baked. . .

      – –HAH! – – -NOT when she thinks that DR. RICE – –is CLOSER 2 her “FANTASY -“friend” – -than she will EVA B!! – —

      THAT is a BEYOND SICK – -WANCH!! – – -geesh!!

      – THIS COMMENT: —- – -> PD Pepe says:
      Thank you for an excellent examination (read dowsing) of Dowd’s column. All of us back at the Reality site were willing to clean your house, do your dishes and yes, fix that bitter Endive salad in order to free you up to write this and although it was all a playful gesture our hearts were in the right place––other than Maureen’s whose heart seems to have been misplaced somewhere along the way.
      LOL

      IMMA SIGN Up 4 window washin’!! – – -so she can KEEP ON WRITIN’! – – -LOL —

      Good 2 C U – -ALEXANDER2. :>)

    • GreenLadyHere

      HEEY ALEXANDER2 – – – -***BIG HUG*** :>)

      – —***hands out BAND AIDS – — -annnnnd – — SCHEDULES SURGERY – – –OTOH — -Naaaaah!!!*** – – -I’ll leave her 2 FEND 4 herself with the SMALL BAND AIDS!! – – -LOL

      – – -THIS – -> But, silly me, I figured Dowd might offer a full-throated defense of Rice against the unfounded, discredited blatherings of Several Geezers in Search of a Scandal. Instead, it appears Dowd hopes that one of her recipes for Skewered Rice, Rice-Raked-over-Coals or Fricassee of Valerie Jarrett will win a bake-off. It might, if she got points for half-baked. . .

      – –HAH! – – -NOT when she thinks that DR. RICE – –is CLOSER 2 her “FANTASY -“friend” – -than she will EVA B!! – —

      THAT is a BEYOND SICK – -WANCH!! – – -geesh!!

      – THIS COMMENT: —- – -> PD Pepe says:
      Thank you for an excellent examination (read dowsing) of Dowd’s column. All of us back at the Reality site were willing to clean your house, do your dishes and yes, fix that bitter Endive salad in order to free you up to write this and although it was all a playful gesture our hearts were in the right place––other than Maureen’s whose heart seems to have been misplaced somewhere along the way.
      LOL

      IMMA SIGN Up 4 window washin’!! – – -so she can KEEP ON WRITIN’! – – -LOL —

      Good 2 C U – -ALEXANDER2. :>)

  • creolechild

    Now, ain’t this some ish?!

    Wal-Mart Black Friday protests: company files complaint

    Discount retailer Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is attempting to squelch worker protests planned for Black Friday, usually the busiest shopping day of the year, the Wall Street Journal reported.[….] OUR Wal-Mart and Making Change at Wal-Mart, have said they are planning to strike in stores in Chicago, Dallas, Miami, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Milwaukee, Los Angeles, Minnesota, and Washington, DC, in the days leading up to and on Black Friday….

    Late Thursday, Wal-Mart filed an unfair labor practice complaint against the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union, which it claims is orchestrating the upcoming protests, the Wall Street Journal reported. The complaint requests that the National Labor Relations Board issue an injunction against employee protests at Wal-Mart stores and warehouses.[….]

    Read more: http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/united-states/121117/walmart-black-friday-protests-complaint-ufcw

    H/T Samantha Stainburn

    • Miranda

      I detest Wal-mart.

  • creolechild

    “Why is no one questioning Eric Cantor’s nasty fingers in this pie?”

    Ummm…probably for the very same reason that Hillary isn’t being targeted.

  • creolechild

    GAH! Disqus is acting the fool again. This comment was intended as a reply to Aqua.

    “Why is no one questioning Eric Cantor’s nasty fingers in this pie?”

    Ummm…probably for the very same reason that Hillary isn’t being targeted.

  • rikyrah

    Romney’s Diversity Handicap

    His problem isn’t that he lost the black vote — it’s that his party doesn’t understand black voters.
    By: Gene Demby|Posted: November 18, 2012 at 12:22 AM

    Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan have had some interesting takes on the scope and, uh, complexion of their Election Day throttling. The former governor was reportedly shell-shocked by the results. But they’re telling on themselves, as the old folks say.

    Romney hopped on a conference call with his wealthiest donors Wednesday and told them that Obama spurred turnout among his coalition by offering “gifts” to voters of color and young people, like health care and student-loan forgiveness. “You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you’re now going to get free health care, particularly if you don’t have it, getting free health care worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity — I mean, this is huge,” Mr. Romney said, while weirdly mischaracterizing how the Affordable Care Act actually works.

    ………………………………

    Surprised? That surge in “urban turnout” wasn’t some unknowable, unpredictable variable, like a massive Election Day earthquake. For months, it had looked like a very real possibility. The National Urban League published a study this summer about the import African Americans would have in this election — they expected the black electorate to grow by several percentage points from 2008, found that registered black voters were the group most likely to vote in 2008 (93 percent did so) and that if black turnout dipped to 2004 levels, Obama would struggle in several other swing states. If the Urban League’s relatively small research and policy shop knew this, then the number crunchers in Obama’s Chicago headquarters certainly did, as well. So why didn’t Team Romney? (Those devious Urban Leaguers! Hiding their research by holding open conference calls with the press and then sneakily plastering it all over the country’s major news outlets!)

    …………………………

    Republican talking heads kept saying that black voters would stay home because disproportionately high unemployment would have sapped their enthusiasm. Some conservative news outlets reported on claims that black people would stay home because of President Obama’s endorsement of same-sex marriage. There wasn’t a lot of evidence to back either of those things.

    It’s also become obvious that Team Romney comically misjudged how galvanizing the Republican push for voter-ID laws would be among a voting bloc that has a long history of state-sponsored disenfranchisement. And so pastors preached to their flocks about it on Sundays, reporters covered stories of ordinary people whose voting rights were suddenly in question and voting and civil rights groups not-so-quietly went out and registered hundreds of thousands of new voters. But Romney never saw it coming.

    http://www.theroot.com/views/romneys-diversity-handicap

    • Town

      It’s not that the GOP “doesn’t understand” black voters. It’s that the GOP doesn’t LIKE black voters.

      That is all.

      • Aquagranny911

        …or Latinos or Asians…Native peoples…women…LGBT… most young people or anyone banking less than 1 million per year…

  • creolechild

    Bleechhh… Hey, Donald, better use that $5 million dollars you were offering for a glimpse of PBO’s school transcripts to get your house in order, and in the meantime hope that no one gets a bad case of food poisoning and decides to promptly sue your simple ass.~

    Trump Steak House In Las Vegas Shut Down After 50+ Health Violations

    If for some reason, while enjoying your stay at the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas, you felt the urge to check out the hotel’s signature steakhouse DJT for hangover brunch, we’d recommend you stifle that urge and swim away. That caviar dolloped atop your blini? Likely over a month old. That healthy parfait you’re smugly ordering because you’re the only non-hungover person in all of Las Vegas this morning? Probably has expired yogurt in it. These are conclusions we’re drawing based on a recent health inspection of DJT that actually shut down the restaurant after they failed it with 51 violations.

    They were housing a walk-in full of outdated, expired, unlabeled, mishandled and improperly stored food. Along with the old caviar and expired yogurt, inspectors also found two week-old veal stock and tomato sauce, expired peanut dressing and black bean chili, and duck that dated back to June. It’s like a college foodie frat boy’s kitchen back there. We’ll spare you the deets on all the improperly stored fish because we don’t want to ruin halibut and tuna for you, too.[….]

    Read more:http://www.thebraiser.com/djt-health-violations/

    H/T Mariella Mosthof

    • goldenstar

      i am glad that trump’s empire is exposed for what it is. what a pos.

  • Lisa M

    How is everybody? Just got in. So…did I miss anything important? Which rethug said something inappropriate today?

  • GN

    Utterly repulsive:

    ‏@NickKristof
    Ugh RT @HalaGorani: Ariel Sharon’s son:”We need to flatten entire neighborhoods…flatten all Gaza” http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?ID=292466&R=R1&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    • crazycanuck

      No words. I need to go watch a Christmas movie, and clear my mind of Netanyahoo and his vileness

    • Miranda

      His son has the morals of Hitler I see.

  • GN

    Played himself:

    @BuzzFeedAndrew
    After Allen West asked for a recount his opponent actually gained votes. http://tiny.cc/nblznw

    • Miranda

      BWA HAHAHAHAHAHA

      • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

        Now he wants a recount of the recount.

    • Alma98

      HAHAHAHAHA!

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      LOL!

  • Miranda

    Evening thread is up!