October 20, 2017

Sunday Open Thread: West Wing Week

This week, the President hit the road for a College Affordability bus tour in New York and Pennsylvania, conferred the medal of honor for conspicuous gallantry, and reflected on what the Civil Rights Movement has meant for the country on the anniversary of the March on Washington 50 years ago, at the Let Freedom Ring ceremony on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial.

  • Miranda

    SMH…. how could anyone describe Judicial Watch as “non-partisan”? That’s like describing Ted Cruz as a moderate republican. ABC really showed their true colors.
    Identities of Officers Who Spoke to ‘Zero Dark Thirty’ Filmmakers About Bin Laden Raid Are Not Public, Judge Rules
    Aug. 31, 2013 By ALEXIS SHAW

    A federal judge ruled the names of the CIA agents and Navy SEAL given to “Zero Dark Thirty” filmmakers should not be released to a government watchdog organization because they are not publicly known, the opinion said.

    Judicial Watch, Inc., filed a lawsuit against the U.S. Department of Defense and the Central Intelligence Agency, claiming the government unfairly withheld the names of four CIA Agents and one Navy SEAL from documents that detailed communications between governmental agencies and the filmmakers behind “Zero Dark Thirty,” according to court documents.

    The non-partisan educational foundation initially filed a Freedom of Information Act request to gain access to recorded conversations the CIA and the Defense Department had with the film’s director Kathryn Bigelow and screenwriter Mark Boal in August 2011, court documents said.


    • JojoRaze

      Morning, all! These conservative groups are so pathetic. Their witch hunt against PBO is so transparent, even the judiciary is telling them ‘Ain’t nobody got time for that.’ Last week of was ‘release all the supposed WH visitor logs’, now it’s this. I’m so glad ODS has a large component of ‘transparent hateration’ that even the judges in the federal judiciary can tell those afflicted to have all the seats in Barclay’s.

  • GreenLadyHere

    GOOD SUNDAY MORNTIN’ –ALEXANDER2♥/POU FAM♥ – —***BIG HUG*** :>) —THIS Sunday MornTin Medley Reflects SEVERAL MOODS in that there R two BRIEF ANNOUNCEMENTS:— –

    —-☺SADLY: —British Journalist And TV Personality Sir David Frost Dies At 74 – — RIHEP. —CONDOLENCES 2 ALL —***raises hand***

    — ☺UPDATE: – -Dear MADIBA♥ —South Africa: Nelson Mandela out of hospital –BLESS HIM♥

    NOW: – —YAAAAAA! on the “WEST WING WEEK!!” —-It has ona my FAV parts of MR. PRESIDENT’s SPEECH: – –‘BECAUSE THEY MARCHED. . ” —***tears/SMILES*** :>)

    THANK U –ALEXANDER2 –4 the FOND MEMORY! :>)– –

    – – –ENJOY YOUR SUNDAY BREAKFAST/BRUNCH♥ — -B Especially BLESSED 2-day. :>)

  • jds09

    Morning POU…

    You know I’m just too tired. This crap is not on the opinion pages, but reported as news. The framing between the quotes is so speculative and its use of adjectives so pejorative its mind boggling. I could only finish a third of it. SMH


    • Miranda

      That is exactly how the “news” is being reported. All of it is filled with a certain framing. They are quite obvious with it too, well, they are for those of us with an IQ higher than 10.

      • jds09

        They want him to be frightened, weak-kneed, indecisive and sabotaged by his inner circle so bad they can taste it. We are reading their collective fantasies.

    • JojoRaze

      The title and article is garbage. the second page says 140 Congresspeople asked that they vote, and PBO is the one drawing them into his ‘red line mistake’ by giving Congress what they asked for?

    • malletgirl02

      Shorter New York Times, “How dare Obama ask members of Congress to do their jobs?!!”

  • GreenLadyHere


    Patriots release Tim Tebow– –

    – ——–The New England Patriots released Tim Tebow on Saturday, a move that leaves the polarizing quarterback’s future in doubt.

    The Pats’ decision to cut ties with Tebow before Saturday’s 6 p.m. ET 53-man roster deadline was first reported by ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

    Tebow, who signed with the Patriots in June, struggled to find
    consistency throughout the preseason, completing 11 of 30 passes for 145 yards with two touchdowns and two interceptions in three games. He also ran 16 times for 91 yards.


    • “completing 11 of 30 passes for 145 yards”

      Dis here. The Patriots gave him a chance to throw the football and he couldn’t even complete half. Running QB’s have a short career span in the NFL. Eventually you have to make plays with your arm.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY woody45. :>) ***BIG HUG*** :>)

        ***fist bump*** – -:>) –THIS — also – -GAVE IT AWAY: – – –Tebow, who signed with the Patriots in June, struggled to find consistency throughout the preseason,. —LOL —

        Good 2 C U woody45. :>) —

  • Miranda

    Obama Phone Call Leads Judge To Release Father Of 1963 Ala. Church Bombing Victim
    Aug 31, 2013 By Associated Press

    BIRMINGHAM, Ala. — A former Alabama politician whose daughter died in a racist church bombing in 1963 was released from a prison medical facility Thursday after a judge sided with an Obama administration call to free him.

    Chris McNair was released from prison hours after U.S. District Judge Lynwood Smith issued her ruling, said Peggy Sanford, a spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney in Birmingham.

    The U.S. Justice Department had sought the release of the 87-year-old McNair on grounds of compassion.

    more here: http://newsone.com/2705680/chris-mcnair-alabama-church-bombing/

    • EpiphanySweet

      Don’t read the comments!!

      • Miranda

        Newsone, The Grio, The Root…they don’t care what type of comments are left on their sites.

        • EpiphanySweet

          That is so unfortunate.

  • Miranda

    Kerry: Samples from Syria tested positive for Sarin
    By Carrie Dann, Political Reporter, NBC News

    Secretary of State John Kerry said Sunday that samples collected by first responders after the reported August 21 chemical weapons attack in Syria have tested positive for the nerve agent Sarin.

    “In the last 24 hours, we have learned through samples that were provided to the United States that have now been tested from first responders in east Damascus and hair samples and blood samples have tested positive for signatures of Sarin,” Kerry said on NBC’s Meet The Press. “So this case is building and this case will build.”

    more here: http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/01/20279783-kerry-samples-from-syria-tested-positive-for-sarin?lite

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2♥ – – – REMINDER: — – -SS John Kerry – -5 SUNDAY TALK SHOWS: – – — ALSO:

    — — ☺Sunday talk show tip sheet – – —

    — – ☺White House believes Congress will vote in favor of U.S. strike, senior officials say– – –

    – – — –Live blog: — -03:10 A.M. The White House has sent Congress a draft resolution authorizing the use of American military force in Syria, with a narrow focus on interdicting chemical weapons – or their use – by the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad, Politico reported..

    The draft resolution, crafted by White House officials, does not set any deadline for U.S. action, but it is clearly written to assuage
    congressional concerns over open-ended American involvement in the two-year-old Syria civil war.

    The text of the resolution can be read here.

  • rikyrah

    Good Morning Everyone

  • gn

    Kerry taking offense at being told Obama overrode his Friday speech. “The PRESIDENT has announced his decision, Chris.”

    • jds09

      They don’t want to report, they just want to start some shit.

      • JojoRaze

        And because PBO’S aides are loyal, they can’t.

    • Kennymack1971

      Welp. There goes Andrea Mitchell’s “Kerry is gonna resign after being undermined by Obama” talking point.

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2♥ – – – -MISSED THIS – – -GOOD NEWS: :>) –

    — – –BEAUTIFUL NEWS: Robin Roberts Returns To ‘Good Morning America’ Full Time!– —

    – – –It seems like only yesterday that we bid farewell to Robin Roberts on “Good Morning America,” but it’s been a full year. The beautiful and inspiring anchor is set to make her full time comeback! Roberts came back to the show earlier this year, but is now back five days a week!

    “The day after Labor Day, I’ll be back to a five-day a week schedule,” Roberts explained. “I’m looking forward to it. I want to get back to my full life.”
    THERE IS MORE – – – -Sooo HAPPY 4 HER/US. :>) –BLESS U♥

  • JB20005

    Artist who painted Putin in lingerie seeking asylum in France.


    Possible prison time for insulting the President. That’s what real oppression looks like, Snowdenites.

  • GreenLadyHere


    – – –Serena Williams, Sloane Stephens set for ‘epic’ clash at U.S. Open – —

    – — –There’s no way around it. It’s the match everyone circled when the women’s draw came out last week and it’s the one everyone wants to talk about now. Well, everyone except the two women who will actually play it.
    THERE IS MORE. – —
    -The NEGATIVITY from SLOANE —geesh!! She betta save it —4 the court!! – – -***shakin’ my head***

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2 – —GLOATIN’ Time. . – -:>)

    – — A New Low: How the Tea Party Trolled Tim Scott Into Selling Himself Out

    – – — –Let’s play a little game I like to call Way Back When.
    Senator Tim Scott, are you listening?

    Way Back When the thought of having an African American man elected as a representative of your state would get as many hearty laughs as an episode of the Andy Griffith Show. Way Back When you would have to eat your lunch at separate lunch counters. Way Back When you would have to drink out of a separate water fountain. Way Back When you would attend inferior schools with outdated textbooks and materials. Way Back When people were actively trying to put systems in place to prevent you from participating in a representative democracy.
    – — -SNIP – —

    This past week, Senator Tim Scott failed miserably at the Way Back When game. As the first African-American senator from the south since 1881 and the first African-American representative from South Carolina since 1897, he, along with other prominent members of the Republican Party, received an invitation to attend the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington. As someone who grew up in poverty, but was able tomake something of himself via his hard work and a dedicated mother working 16-hour days, it seemed only natural that Scott would be in attendance for the historical event.

    Unfortunately, Tim Scott was nowhere to be found.

    – — –OXY-MORON: — –RE-THUG BLACK! As he has demonstrated. geesh

  • rikyrah

    Media Industrial Complex Has Meltdown Over Constitutional Government (Andrea Mitchell Haz a Sad)
    Saturday, August 31, 2013 | Posted by Spandan C at 6:12 PM

    Did you watch Andrea Mitchell today? Oh, boy. Did she ever get a case of teh sad after President Obama’s address in the Rose Garden. She – and notably, this Ret. Col. Jack Jacobs, commentator on MSNBC – had a total meltdown. Together, Mrs. Greenspan and Mr. Jacobs cooked up theories ranging from an Obama-Kerry discord to a “reversal” that Mitchell kept referring to on the part of the president, to executive weakness to stabbing the Syrian rebels in the back.

    Jacobs was beside himself that for some bizarre reason, John Kerry could no longer be trusted by world leaders as speaking for the president (because somehow, some way, Jacobs imagined a part of Kerry’s speech yesterday where he said that the president had made up his mind to order a strike without Congress’ buy-in, though Kerry actually said just the opposite) Mitchell a potshot at the president for going golfing after making the speech. Yeah, how dare that mulatto go golfing after messing up all my war reporting plans?

    They – and media hanchos everywhere – cooked up every theory they could think of, except one: that when the president, and Sec. Kerry, and everyone else in the administration were telling you bumbling fools in the media that the president hadn’t yet made a decision, they were telling the truth (I know, I know, gasp!). It never even seems to register with the talking heads. No, even when they are being told clear as day that the president hasn’t made a decision, they know that the president really has, and it’s the decision they think he’s made, and if that doesn’t pan out, OMG, reversal!!!!!!

    I mean, God forbid you actually believed the president when he told you he hadn’t made a decision and he was really looking at all options on the table. God forbid you actually believe the President of the United States when he told you that this response is meant to be a response to the use of chemical weapons, not a helping hand to one side of the Syrian civil war. God forbid you actually believe the president when he says that as a Constitutional scholar, he wants the Congress to have buy-in. God forbid you actually are forced report the real news rather than figments of your imagination. God forbid. Right?

    Look, I get it. After all, President Obama just screwed up Mitchell’s own R&R plans. She and her studio was all ready to report war theater for the next week – with much of the graphics and rhetoric already written and the guests already booked – and now they have to change that. They have to cover – horror of all horrors – a national and Congressional debate about military action and the grotesque conduct that Syria engaged in. Heck, she probably even had to rework her script today. Why does the president insist on making pillars of our media do actual work to earn their millions in salaries while they pretend like they are just like the rest of us? How very annoying of this president.


    • goldenstar

      Thank you for posting!


      “The fact is that all this frantic freakout is being caused by two things: they cannot believe that the president needs to be taken at his word when he says he hasn’t made a decision on something, and secondly, they find the idea of Constitutional government completely foreign. We even heard how this is a bad idea because presidents since Reagan have used the military to launch strikes without Congressional approval (because, you know, nothing went wrong during Reagan’s use of the military), even though this president made the judgment that he could as well and decided to put the Congress on the record anyway, to ensure that we stand together on a momentous decision like this.

      I understand it makes more work for our vaunted “reporters.” They have to cover Congressional dymanics, who in Congress is thinking what. But aren’t they paid to do exactly this, their job?”

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2♥- — -From SS John Kerry: —

    – – – –Kerry sees growing coalition against Syria– –

    – – – – —Secretary of State John Kerry said Sunday a worldwide coalition against the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad would would grow as more evidence comes out about the reported Aug. 21 use of chemical weapons against civilians..

    “I think the world takes enormous affront at this incredible abuse of
    power, this attack on decency and incredible crime against humanity,”
    Kerry said on NBC’s “Meet the Press,.” noting signatures of sarin gas in test results.
    “I’ve talked with a number of nations who have offered to be helpful,” he said.

    THERE IS MORE – –WATCHIN’. . . .

  • rikyrah

    House Republicans Refuse to Come Back Early from Vacation to Discuss Syria

    Nothing gets in the way of the Republican House avoiding work. Not even voting on military action in Syria.

    House leaders issued a statement saying that “serious, substantive” questions were being raised regarding Syria and they are so glad that the President is asking them to vote because this is so important, constitution, blah blah – oh, and they are going to take the measure up on September 9th, which is another way of saying they are not coming back early from vacaction for this “serious, substantive” matter.

    House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH), Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA), Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) and Conference Chair Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA) today issued the following joint statement.

    “Under the Constitution, the responsibility to declare war lies with Congress. We are glad the president is seeking authorization for any military action in Syria in response to serious, substantive questions being raised. In consultation with the president, we expect the House to consider a measure the week of September 9th. This provides the president time to make his case to Congress and the American people.”


    • nellcote

      expect the House to consider a measure

      I wonder what happens if Boner doesn’t bring it up for a vote at all.

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2♥ – —- COUNTDOWN on the ACA: — —

    — –ObamaCare open for business in month – —

    – – —ObamaCare’s grand opening is just a month away.
    The law’s new insurance marketplaces are scheduled to open for enrollment on Oct. 1, and supporters are ramping up a major education and outreach campaign as the date draws nearer.

    THERE IS MORE — – —-Mostly NEGATIVE — SAD!!

  • rikyrah



    The best part about being an Obot is the vindication. ::ducks::

    2:32 PM – 31 Aug 2013

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2- — -A Persective — – – – :>)–

    – – —Obama’s Decision to Get Congressional Approval Gives Sanity a Chance– –

    – – – — –It isn’t easy being president. Barack Obama was going to draw criticism no matter what decision he made with regard to Syria. And he has.
    If he had decided to go ahead and launch attacks on Syria, he would have been accused by Republicans (and let’s not forget progressives) of exceeding his authority as president. Now that he chose to seek congressional approval, he is being accused by Rep. Peter King (R-NY) of weakening the presidency, and not only that, weakening the authority of future presidents.

    Given how much worry we’ve seen over a greatly expanded ‘imperial’ presidency, shouldn’t reigning in executive powers be cause for jubilation instead?

    It’s true that some Republicans have praised Obama, including Sen. Mitch McConnell, who takes the opposite tack: “The President’s role as commander-in-chief is always strengthened when he enjoys the expressed support of the Congress.”
    —-SNIP- – –

    This president is unafraid of doing what is demanded of him by his office. He is doing what is right by opening Syrian intervention to debate. He is unafraid of doing what is right regardless of the criticism. We may not always agree with the decisions he makes, but we can trust that he does not make them without due consideration for the consequences, and that, ultimately, is the job of the president – and the Congress of the United States. Whatever ultimately comes out of congressional debate, we will have at least had that debate that common sense – and human decency – require.
    THERE IS MORE – — —WATCHIN’. . .

  • malletgirl02

    I was just reading the Pragmatic Obot twitter feed, so Travis Smiley was for military action against Syria before he was against it.

  • rikyrah

    Think Progress: Poverty Has Same Effect On The Brain As Constantly Pulling All Nighters

    The mental strain of living in poverty and thinking constantly about tight finances can drop a person’s IQ by as much as 13 percent, or about the equivalent of losing a night of sleep, according to a new study. It consumes so much mental energy that there is often little room to think about anything else, which leaves low-income people more susceptible to bad decisions.

    One of the study’s authors, Harvard economist Sandhil Mullainathan, told the Washington Post, “Poverty is the equivalent of pulling an all-nighter. Picture yourself after an all-nighter. Being poor is like that every day.”

    Poverty has other negative impacts. The chronic stress of growing up in poverty has been found to impair children’s brains, particularly in working memory. A study of veterans found that poverty is a bigger risk factor for mental illnessthan being exposed to warfare. The mental stress of being poor is also a major reason for why low-income people tend to have negative health outcomes like high blood pressure and cholesterol or elevated rates of obesity and diabetes.


  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2♥ — – -TWEETIN’ – – — TRUTH :>) – – –

    — — -☺@keithboykin
    ‏Strong, impressive, and persuasive speech from President Obama for military action in Syria. We have a moral obligation to lead and act.

    – – – -☺@keithboykin
    ‏And the president made the right move by going to Congress first. He didn’t have to but it sets an important precedent.

    – – — -☺@keithboykin
    I should add that I’m on vacation, haven’t followed the news, and did not support military action in Syria until I saw today’s speech
    MORE – –Tuesday. . . .:>)

  • rikyrah

    I Love the Smell of a Ratfuck in the Morning
    Posted by mistermix at 9:41 am
    Sep 012013

    Liz Cheney has been on the receiving end of a typical Republican push poll, which asked Wyoming residents whether they are aware that she’s pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage. Since her father has already come out in support of her openly gay sister Mary’s right to marry her partner, it put Liz in a bit of a bind. Liz, being Liz, blundered through by issuing a boilerplate statement throwing her sister under the bus and stating her firm opposition to gay marriage [warning: Politico]. Here’s Mary’s response:

    “For the record, I love my sister, but she is dead wrong on the issue of marriage,” Mary Cheney wrote on Facebook, urging readers to like or share the post. Noting that “Freedom means freedom for everyone,” she added, “That means that all families — regardless of how they look or how they are made — all families are entitled to the same rights, privileges and protections as every other.”

    That’s just the latest chapter of the ongoing Liz Cheney Wyoming shitshow. The previous chapter was her accusation that her opponent, Mike Enzi, sponsored the poll. Enzi might be dumb, but he’s not Liz Cheney dumb. Liz’s statement just gave Enzi an opportunity to call her a dirty campaigner, and it also gave the NRSC, which is supporting Enzi, a chance to field test their latest anti-Cheney quote:

    With all due respect, it looks like Liz Cheney is fishing without a license again […]


  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2♥ – – -TWEETIN’ – –TRUTH –:>) —

    – –☺– ‏@Green_Footballs
    It doesn’t matter what Obama does about Syria – Greenwald will use it as an opportunity to rant about America, the evil empire.
    Retweeted by Jeff Gauvin

    – – -☺@gregpinelo
    ‏Tavis Smiley? Really @ThisWeek? Was Dennis Rodman not available?
    Retweeted by Jeff Gauvin

    – – – -☺ ‏@JeffersonObama
    @Green_Footballs Not even a thank you to POTUS or MLK celebrating his life last week. Greenwald’s Klan clients as lawyer must love him- —

    – – – -☺@Green_Footballs
    Anyone surprised to see Greenwald bashing Obama for going to Congress about Syria? His hatred of the President is pathological.
    Retweeted by Jeff Gauvin —

    — – – -☺ ‏@brucejohnson9
    If its 50-50 now in the House
    sounds like Pres could pull out a narrow vote here. Classified briefings on Syria coming later today.
    Retweeted by Jeff Gauvin —

    MORE L8R. :>) —

    • edp4bho

      Hmm. Jeff Gauvin was on some pretty heavy hatin yesterday against PBO’s decision to go to congress for authorization of Syria. See, these people are all babies. PBO- again, the only adult in the room.

  • rikyrah

    Scandal’ season 3 promo: The battle begins — EXCLUSIVE
    By Sandra Gonzalez on Aug 29, 2013 at 2:56PM

    Gladiators rejoice!

    Scandal‘s return is just around the corner and by the looks of it, all hell has broken loose in Washington. And rightly so.

    At the end of last season, someone told the press that Olivia Pope had an affair with the president. True as it may be, this was never supposed to happen. And the fallout is huge.

    In the exclusive promo below, which touts the Oct. 3 premiere, you can see exactly what we’re talking about. Tease: Mellie is pissed, Olivia is shocked and Cyrus wants to “start a kill folder on Olivia Pope.” Gulp.


  • Alma98


    • rikyrah

      Good Morning, Alma.

      I hope you’re enjoying this weekend.

      All my BBQing is done…yeah.

      • Alma98

        Good morning rikyrah, my little sisters are doing the cooking. And yes I’m loving this long weekend, getting to sleep in lol.

    • GreenLadyHere
      • Alma98

        ***HUGS*** Good morning GLH, you have a great day too. You haven’t mentioned your grand-baby in awhile how’s he doing?

    • Worldwatcher7

      Morning Alma and Everyone!

      • Alma98

        Morning ww7!

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2 – – — Luvin’ THIS PIC —-

    No “Boots on the GROUND” – – – -BUT – —“FOOT on the DESK” – –OK! :>) – –

    – — ☺@NerdyWonka
    President Barack Obama speaks with Speaker Boehner on Syria. The picture says it all. The man means business. http://www.flickr.com/photos/whitehouse/9640275502/
    View photo- – — Good on U —MR. PRESIDENT! :>) – –

    • jds09

      Biden’s expression is pretty telling too.

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2♥ — -THIS —RESONATES — -4 US: — -:>) – –

    – – — Labor Day: For blacks, a day on — not a day off– –

    – —- –For many Americans, Labor Day is simply a day off from work that marks the ending of summer, celebrated with barbecues and spectator sports.
    But its purpose is to pay tribute to American workers and their insistence on humane working conditions and fair pay.
    What cannot be lost in all the revelry is the activist spirit that underpins this holiday. It is a day that honors action and political demands, not calls for national conversations and periods of reflection.

    As such, Labor Day this year should resonate especially well with African-Americans fresh off the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom. In fact, the events that led to Labor Day, fed into the development of the March on Washington.

    These historical ties should have special meaning for black America
    today as it continues to face unacceptably high unemployment rates. The ongoing fast-food workers strike for better wages is also instructive for black America, especially as blacks make up a significant amount of the nation’s low-wage earners.

    These past, present, and future links captured in the African-American relationship to Labor Day provide a modern-day timeline of the black worker’s American experience.
    THERE IS MORE – — – —
    [Gotta “bounce”. :>) Back as soon as. . .MISSING U/CARRYING U —IN MY♥ –B BLESSED♥]

  • rikyrah

    Downton Abbey’s Season 4 Trailer Reveals Lady Mary’s Grief

    By K.C. Blumm

    08/31/2013 at 04:20 PM EDT

    The fourth season of Downton Abbey won’t be on the air in the U.S. until next year, but fans of the British drama can get a tantalizing glimpse of what the lies ahead for the Crawley family in a new one-minute trailer.

    As Lady Mary continues to mourn the loss of her husband, Matthew, who died in a car accident at the end of the last season, her grandmother, the Dowager Countess of Grantham, tells her: “You have a straightforward choice, you must choose either death or life.”

    But moving on isn’t easy.

    What follows is a montage of romantic moments for Downton’s other upstairs and downstairs residents, more tears from Lady Mary – who’s consoled by steadfast Carson the butler – trouble for former jailbird Bates and Anna and some new love interests for widowed Tom Branson, Lady Rose and maybe even Mary.



  • nellcote

    Really surprised to hear Joy Reid “othering” PBO on MHP this morning.

    • qosine

      I know. What do you think?

      • nellcote

        I’m really disappointed in her. Maybe MHP is just toxic and contageous.

        • qosine

          Me too.

    • rikyrah

      othering in terms of Syria?


      • nellcote

        In a discussion of PBO mentioning “black pathology” (as MHP puts it) in the MOW speech, Reid said he sounded like her father, who’s an immigrant. Reminding people he doesn’t come from a slave background since his father came from Kenya and he was raised by white people. I’m pretty shocked that she went there.

        • jds09

          That bullshit again?! I remember that trope from 2008, in comparing PBO’s background to FLOTUS’

          And quite possibly inaccurate, we are in America after all, digging in Ann Dunham’s family true may unearth some new realities.

          • rikyrah

            they already proved that Ann Dunham’s family were slaveholders. so, PBO is linked to slavery in America.

          • jds09

            Thought so.

          • Worldwatcher7

            I’ve read about one of PBO’s African American ancestors on this site.

          • JojoRaze

            The Afr-Am ancestors were through his white mom Stanley-Ann. one of his great granfatjers had a relationship with a white woman, which made th kids free since slavery passed through the mom

        • rikyrah

          where the fuck did POTUS talk about ‘black pathology’ in his speech?

    • Tafr

      I guess I am the only one not completely shocked that Reid went there.

      There are very few talking heads that will not take a cheap shot at this president.

    • edp4bho

      Hello POU. I am not surprised at Ms. Reid. If she’s on TV, she is part of the meme. Point blank. While part of what she said is correct in and of itself, too many people conveniently forget that PBO had an African father, and last I checked, Kenya was colonized by the British. So, she can shut the f up with that assertion. So, since he wasn’t raised by blacks, he can’t have a black sentimentality? I am beginning to hear this even more now than during his first term. See, this is why I don’t have expanded cable. Can’t even watch Rev Al, who is about to get on my last nerve as well, with his ” I don’t support PBO on war”. This is why Rev Al also is not president. Do what you do best and leave the heavy lifting to the qualified man. None of these people impress me anymore, and I am healthier for it. Go PBO.

      • Tafr

        Thank You ED! Once upon a time Maddow was decent to listen to until she went to MSNBC and started feeling herself. I personally do not watch MSNBC not even Rev Al.

        • nathkatun7

          ” personally do not watch MSNBC not even Rev Al.”

          I don’t either, Tafr!

  • jds09

    As time goes on I’m finding that square jaw more and more attractive…

    “No decision is made until the President makes the decision.” SoS John Kerry on Fox News with Chris Wallace.

  • rikyrah


    Plantar Fasciitis, hurts likes the dickens, Although I’m not
    obese, I did wear a very flat shoe the other day. I’m wondering now if I
    should get it checked out

    yes, you should get it checked out.

    in the morning, before you get up, put your foot in a towel and so some stretching exercises on the foot. hold the stretch for 15-20 seconds at a time

  • isonprize

    Call me a softy, but I love, love, LOVE it when a grown man cuddles a baby. Something about a man who isn’t scared,knows how to hold them, and soothe them. PBO is just so comfortable with babies. Sigh….

  • rikyrah

    August 30, 2013 1:15 PM
    Quinn’s Collapse

    By Ed Kilgore

    It’s increasingly likely that the last good day for Christine Quinn’s mayoral campaign was Monday, when she received the last of her endorsements from New York’s “big three” daily newspapers. A Quinnipiac poll on Wednesday showed her falling far behind Bill de Blasio and getting trounced in any plausible runoff. Now comes a New York Times/Siena poll showing her dropping into third place and suffering a calamitous decline in favorability.

    Like the Q-poll, the new survey shows Bill de Blasio surging into a lead, albeit with 32%, which is a ways from the 40% needed to avoid a runoff. But Quinn’s odds of making or surviving a runoff are now unmistakably fading. While her viable rivals are enjoying strong favorable/unfavorable ratios (de Blasio at 53/16 and Bill Thompson at 53/16) among likely primary voters, Quinn is now underwater at 39/45. She’s doing a little bit better than Anthony Weiner (24/66), but that’s not saying much. And she has little “cushion” for improvement, since only 15% of voters say they don’t know enough about her to have an opinion (25% of respondents don’t know much about de Blasio, and 30% say the same about Thompson).

    Primaries are difficult to poll or predict, but it’s beginning to look like either a de Blasio/Thompson runoff or a de Blasio win outright. Best I can tell, Quinn’s close identification with Michael Bloomberg, for which she has been pounded by her opponents, has been her achilles heel. But for whatever reason, too many New York Democrats just don’t like her at precisely the wrong time in her political career.


    • qosine

      Good to see this.

    • Kennymack1971

      The Miss Ann clique is not going to take this well at all.

      • Worldwatcher7

        Let’s hope that this time, for a change, their tears won’t work like magic to get them what they want.

      • Miranda

        Oh you can best believe it. They’re gonna start with the tears and cries of sexism in 5…4….3….2…..

      • jds09

        As far as I can tell, it’s a classic Miss Ann move, aligning yourself with white male power while flexing your feminist creds. But oopps…stop and frisk put the spotlight on her move.

        • rigoletta

          Feminism for these people was never about challenging or dismantling that power structure but having white women become a part of it.

          I’m glad the people of NYC see through this woman’s crap and are rejecting her.

          If Hillary is smart she’ll be paying attention but for some reason I doubt that.

          • qosine


      • JojoRaze

        It’s not gonna work, though, because she ticked the Anns off too. There was a meeting in Boerum Hill a Park Slope like neighborhood also in Brooklyn, with all those Hipster, Birkenstock type Moms that she didn’t attend. That’s why her whole Chirlane deBlasio attacked me because I don’t have kids meme didn’t stick. Those white moms know Chirlane is right-Quinn has not been speaking to women’s concerns in the race. Women with kids don’t feel comfortable around Quinn because she doesn’t,t talk about work life balance and she doesn’t show up for the local meet-the-voter meetings. There were several she missed and the other candidates,led alternatively by Weiner, deblasio, Iiu and Thompson just blasted her for it. They literally had an empty chair with her name on it. And it’s not because she’s a lesbian. There are loads of lesbians in NYC with kids who want a mayor sensitive to paid time off, etc. Also, according to the Village Voice the LGBT community was the first to turn on Quinn because she stood by and allowed St Vincent’s Hospital, one of the first AIDS specializing hospitals that was iconic to the lgbt movement in the country to close. Quinn has no natural Democratic constituency now.

  • qosine

    Oh, good. Alex Witt is putting Grayson on the spot.

    • pamelabrown53

      Tell us more, quosine. Grayson would not have been elected after his mid-term defeat, if not for PBO’s coat tails.

      • qosine

        No kidding, pamelabrown53. He’s so smarmy
        and smug.

  • Miranda

    Gov. McDonnell described as aware of gifts from Virginia businessman
    By Carol D. Leonnig and Rosalind S. Helderman, Published: August 31

    Virginia Gov. Robert F. McDonnell was aware of gifts and financial help provided by a wealthy Richmond area businessman during the same months the governor and his wife took steps to help his company, according to people familiar with documents and interviews gathered by federal investigators.

    For example, McDonnell (R) was present at a charity auction in 2011 when the chief executive of Star Scientific, which makes a dietary supplement, successfully bid on a fashion tour of New York for the governor’s wife in front of a crowd of onlookers, witnesses said.

    more here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gov-mcdonnell-described-as-aware-of-gifts-from-virginia-businessman/2013/08/31/f2739284-0f3e-11e3-85b6-d27422650fd5_story.html?hpid=z2

  • Miranda

    Virginia Governor Robert McDonnell sacrifices wife Maureen McDonnell in gifts scandal
    By Robert McCartney, Published: August 31

    Shame on Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell for trying to wriggle out of responsibility in the Star Scientific gifts scandal by sacrificing his wife of 37 years.

    It’s painful to watch the governor’s legal team systematically tear down the reputation for good judgment of the woman whom he’s previously portrayed as his beloved partner in a storybook romance.

    Such lack of chivalry hardly squares with the governor’s long-standing image as a squeaky-clean, religious family man.

    more here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-governor-robert-mcdonnell-sacrifices-wife-maureen-mcdonnell-in-gifts-scandal/2013/08/31/dd1cc706-11d3-11e3-b4cb-fd7ce041d814_story.html

    • Kennymack1971

      So not just a grifter, but a punk ass as well.

    • rigoletta

      I hope she turns on him. You can’t tell me they have a good marriage when he’s willing to do something like this.

      By law she can’t be compelled to testify against him so his move is pure selfishness.

    • conlakappa

      I am pretty sure he tried to cast her as a surrendered wife before. This is requiring one heck of a pivot to have her doing things about which he was unawares. Toss her an apple and call her Eve.

    • rikyrah

      what a man….
      He’s a grifter trying to pretend that he’s not.
      he and his wife should be on their way to jail

  • EpiphanySweet

    POU fam please help me understand this video. I am not a regular church goer but is this a new trend remixing R Kelly songs for gospel songs? http://youtu.be/C2OQFN9Pj4Q

    • Miranda
      • EpiphanySweet

        LOL.. That’s how I feel. I am totally confused by this….seriously. What message are they putting out? I would walk out of a church playing this.

    • Worldwatcher7

      I find that icky.

    • Kennymack1971

      That is just…wrong.

    • rigoletta


    • GreenLadyHere

      HEEY EpiphanySweet. :>) ***BIG HUG** :>)

      SADLY – – -It’s called – —“CROSS-OVA – -RE-MIXING – –4 –$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!”–

      -DISGUSTING!!?? annd IMHO – -BLASPHEMOUS!! – –

      Annnd YES! — -I WOULD –B- – http://d.wapday.com/animation/ccontennt/10987-l/woman_walking_somewhere.gif?__sid=F3I3WNN&lang=en – OUTEE! – -Good on U 4 axin’ :>) – -Good 2 C U. :>)

      • EpiphanySweet

        Hey GLH ((HUGS)) WOW there is a name for it. The yuck factor is high on this one. No way am I going to a church that promotes this.

        • GreenLadyHere

          LOL –EpiphanySweet. – – – -I just made it up –’cause IMHO –IT’S – -“ALL ABOUT da BENJAMINS!”- – —THAT! —IS! ALL! :>)

          Annnd ***fist bump*** – –on NOT attending any church that plays this kind of “music”?????

          Here’s a cluE:- –Iff they sing outta hymnals [or other books of music] –it’s prolly NOT gon play “that genre” of music. :>)

          I jus cain’t even THINK about it. — –http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1266631/eww-o.gif – – -Ewwwwwe! :>)

          • EpiphanySweet

            LOL.. The name is most appropriate. I don’t understand why they think this is ok. To each his own I suppose.

          • GreenLadyHere

            SADLY – – –EpiphanySweet — -U GoT IT. :>) —

  • Miranda

    Everyone that has formed an exploratory committee or has a PAC that is actively raising money for a presidential campaign in 2016 needs to be asked their opinion of US intervention in Syria. They should not be afforded the convenience of hindsight.

    • rigoletta

      I’m with you on this. Of course that would require a responsible media.

      Considering many of the people attacking Obama are the same people who pushed hard for the Iraq war even if they are asked the media won’t hold them responsible for the positions they take.

  • Miranda

    My mayor!

    Kasim Reed ✔ @KasimReed
    @TavisSmiley completely disagree with your assertion that Dr. King would oppose America’s use of force to prevent the use of sarin on kids.

    • rigoletta

      People need to stop putting words in the mouth of MLK.

      It takes a someone with a poor argument and a poor understanding of facts to pull that move.

      Tavis needs to sit down somewhere.

    • jziglar

      Did tavis even know dr. King ? Did he follow him when he was alive ? If the answers to those questions are no then you really don’t know what mlk would say about this situation.

      • nathkatun7

        Indeed! I am so sick about people who claim to know with certainty what Dr. King would or would not have done. Why can’t Tavis Smiley state his own views and leave Dr. King out? How come Tavis Smiley was not invited to opine about what Dr. King would have done when Clinton bombed Serbia or when both Clinton and Bush were bombing Iraq? Could it be because Tavis Smiley really has no firmly held beliefs other than the fact that he hates President Obama? Smiley has now become the go to black person whenever the media wants to attack the President. It’s obvious that the media is using Tavis Smiley as a shield from charges of racism. Tavis must be expecting some big pay-off.

        • jds09

          Tavis just wants a seat at the cool kid’s table. I bet he wants to be the black Chris Hayes, with his own show on MSNBC. He’s auditioning.

          • nathkatun7

            I think you are right about MSNBC.

  • sagittarius

    Afternoon, Fam!

    The Lord is good. He may not come when you want, but he is always on time.

    Be blessed today!

  • jds09

    I gonna have to unhook from twitter in a minute…I’m I the only one that heard PBO say (and supported by his letter to Congress) that: Syrians will deal with Syria’s problem, that he’s considering a limited punitive strike because Assad has used chemical warfare. He doesn’t want to go to war, his end goal is not to “save the children”, he’s stated a very narrow focus.

    • Miranda

      That’s what I heard….but apparently that is being interpreted to mean go to war with Syria for the next decade.

      • jds09

        Thank you Miranda. I’m not crazy.

        • nathkatun7

          You are not crazy! It’s the people afflicted with ODS that have totally lost their minds. There is absolutely nothing that President Obama says or does that they won’t twist around into a negative in order to justify their attacks on him.

      • rigoletta

        The media is trying so hard to spin this into Iraq Part 2 it’s unreal.

        They also ignored the fact the PBO didn’t automatically commit to any action and said he was weighing his options.

        All this drumbeat of how we are going to war any second now was one of the biggest lies I’ve ever seen reported.

        They just completely ignored what the man was actually saying!

      • JojoRaze

        This is why I’m glad I didn’t hear about the speech from msm. I read the transcript on the WH blog. Since I did well on the reading comp part of the SAT, I know I clearly read that the rationale for a limited, no-boots-on-the-ground strike would be to enforce a no chemical weapons ban norm the international community has had since 1945.

        I wish the folks imputing bad motives on PBO would just admit that they give no darns about Assad killing his people since folks die everyday and the US doesn’t help them all. I could live with that callousness and fear of involvement in a Mideast war. But imputing bad motives on PBO just angers me when he’s following constitutional protocol AND listening to a Congress who WROTE HIM AND SAID THEY WANTED A VOTE ON SYRIA.

    • nathkatun7

      I heard exactly the same message you heard. That’s why I am puzzled by people demanding from him an exit strategy. The President said, both on Friday and Saturday, that there will be no U.S. “boots on the ground” in Syria. He also repeatedly said that it’s up to the Syrian people to determine who governs them.

  • Miranda

    Afternoon thread is up!