November 20, 2017

Sunday Open Thread: West Wing Week

Welcome to this week’s West Wing Week, this week we take you from Pennsylvania Ave to the heartland of America, to the Rocky Mountains, to the Big Apple and south of the boarder for a packed week of travel with the President and Vice President.

  • crazycanuck

    Morning folks, I’m up early today to get my laundry done,then going to watch liverpool play at a pub. I’ll finally have a nice breakfast lmao. So,It looks like those crazies are really going to shut down your government. SMH. Wishing you all the best surviving the crazies.

    • GreenLadyHere

      Good Sunday MornTin’ crazycanuck. ***BIG HUG** :>) – —

      —We gon survive –da CRAY —CRAY’s. :>) – —

      –Have a GR8 day. :>) —-BTW –did U get the “jeans”? :>)-

    • Alma98

      Morning cc.

    • Aquagranny911

      Hola CC! I hope your team wins. Did you get those jeans?

  • GreenLadyHere


    ALEXANDER2 — Sooo happy 2 C –the “WWW!” — Woo! Hoo! :>)


    — – — —–☺-JOBS! – – —JOBS! —-JOBS! — – -in the Auto Industry

    —- – – – –☺COMPASSIONATE-IN-CHIEF 4 the people in the Navy Yard annnd in Colorado

    — – — – – – ☺ WORLD annnd WORLD CLASS LEADER @ the UN.

    – – – – – – – ☺”The AFFORDABLE CARE ACT” —-Support from –“42” – – –-“The ACA! —IS! —HERE!”— –Woo! Hoo! :>)

    – – — —— -☺Luvin’ his – -POSITIVITY – –with the “little ones” -:>)


    – —B BLESSED 2-DAY :>)– –

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2 – – – – -From MR. CUMMINGS – —TRUTH!! – —

    Top Oversight Dem: Republicans in Congress ‘failed the American people’– –

    – – – – –Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) said early Sunday that Republicans in Congress “failed the American people” in passing a continuing resolution that delays ObamaCare by one year and repeals a 2.3 percent tax on medical devices.

    —-“They voted to shut down the government, all because of their obsession with taking away health insurance for millions of people and giving back to insurance companies the power to decide who gets what care,” Cummings, the top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, said in a statement.

    “In their blind pursuit of ideology over our nation’s best interests,
    Republicans are hurting our economy, threatening job creation, and
    leaving families with less security and stability.”

    House Republicans approved a stopgap spending bill earlier Sunday that delays ObamaCare in a vote that increases the chances of a government shutdown on Tuesday.

    The House added language delaying implementation of the healthcare law by a year in a 231-192 vote.

    Members also voted to eliminate a tax on medical devices in a 248-174 vote. The tax is intended to pay for some of the law’s costs.

    The White House has threatened to veto the measure, while Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) proclaimed it dead in the upper chamber.

    — – —[IGNORE- -the NEGATIVITY!!]

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2 – — -From a previous article —THIS is WHAT those DANG RE-THUGS voted 4!!:– –

    Shutdown: Here Is What Will Happen If Congress Doesn’t Get Its Act Together By Monday– –

    – – — –If Congress fails to pass a continuing resolution before Tuesday, the federal government will come to a standstill, shuttering “non-essential” services and operations that are deemed unnecessary for the safety of human life and national security. So while air traffic controllers will keep the planes in the sky, seniors will receive their Medicare and Social Security checks and the unemployed will continue to see benefits, other services will begin to dry up the longer the shutdown continues. Services that are not subject to yearly appropriations — so-called mandatory spending — will continue functioning and self-funding agencies like the Postal Services could still deliver mail.

    But close to a million federal workers performing tasks that are deemed non-essential could be furloughed, leading to delays and shutdowns in the following services:

    FINANCIAL SERVICES. The Small Business Administration will stop making loans,federal home loan guarantees will likely go on hold, and students applying for financial aid could also see delays and backlogs in applications.

    ARMED FORCES. U.S. troops serving at home and abroad could stop receiving paychecks if the shutdown continues for an extended period and changes of station would also be delayed and facility and weapons maintenance would be suspended. Families back home would also be impacted.
    HEALTH CARE. The National Institutes of Health will stop accepting new patients and delay or stop clinical trials.

    THERE IS MORE- — – — –

    – –NO WEAPON —–
    —KEEPIN’ da FAITH. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2 – — –The – —MIDNIGHT MADNESS — -geesh!

    – – —House sends stopgap to Senate hours before shutdown (Video)

    – – – – –House Republicans approved a stopgap spending bill that delays ObamaCare in an early-morning Sunday vote that increases the chances of a government shutdown.

    The high-stakes GOP move intensifies a game of chicken with Senate Democrats with just 48 hours to go before the lights could go out on the federal government.

    The White House threatened to veto the measure, while Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) proclaimed it dead in the upper chamber.

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2 — -O/T – – –OMWORD! – –SAD NEWS – – – —

    – – – –Nigeria: Boko Haram Kills 50 Students Asleep in Dorms

    — — — Islamic extremists attacked an agricultural college in the dead of night, gunning down dozens of students as they slept in dormitories and torching classrooms in an ongoing Islamic uprising in northeast Nigeria, the school’s provost said. Molima Idi Mato, provost of the Yobe State College of Agriculture told the AP that as many as 50 students may have been killed in the attack that began at about 1am today in rural Gujba. He said he could not give an exact toll as security forces are still recovering bodies.

    The other 1,000 students enrolled have fled the college that is about 25 miles north of the scene of similar school attacks around Damaturu town,he said.

    • goldenstar

      This is absolutely terrible.

      This from the BBC post:
      Boko Haram regards schools as a symbol of Western culture. The group’s name translates as “Western education is forbidden”.

      It’s taking social oppression to a violent extreme since they have the guns. Whether it’s the Taliban in Aghanistan standing against schools for girls or the thugs in Pakistan shooting female students to the U.S. Republicans standing their ground at black bodies, it’s THUGGERY.

      Since they don’t want to participate in modernity and social equality, they think it’s ok to kill those who don’t subscribe to their view of the world.

      • Aquagranny911

        You speak TRUTH!!!

      • Miranda

        This is the type of person and organization that demands complete destruction. Nothing short of complete annihilation.

    • Guns3000

      The Muslim world are going to have to really start policing their own. This is getting out of control. Moderate Muslims in power do no denounce these acts strong enough.

      • goldenstar

        I hafta disagree. The President of Somalia has been vigilant about Shabaab and has made statements about the threat to the world. He was just on Fareed Zakaria’s program today. His explanation of the ways that they operate and their perspective of the world is chilling.

        • Guns3000

          The President of Somalia has minimal influence on the muslim world. Somalia is barely a country at this point. When I see influential imams from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Indonesia and across the Muslim world denounce this animalistic behavior then that will beca good start. Muslims are usually the victims of this terrorism and these imams say nothing. Shia and Sunni warring for centuries based on religious intrepretation.

        • Guns3000

          The President of Somalia doesn’t have any influence in the Muslim world. Somalia is barely a functioning country. Until influential Imans in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Indonesia et al denounce these animals loudy and strongly they are on some level complicit. Don’t forgot the biggest victims of Muslims terrorism are Muslims. Sunnis and Shias killing each other for centuries based on religious interpretation. So the President of some ungovernable and lawless country like Somalia saying a statement is immaterial.

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2 – —SPEAKIN’ -of da —CRAY! –CRAY!! – -geesh! —

    – —The Crazies Rally Around their Own, Ted Cruz– –

    – —-You have to wonder at Republican reactions to Ted Cruz’s pseudo-filibuster prank this past week. We saw Bryan Fischer calling him a modern-day prophet Elijah, Karl Rove told Greta Van Susteren that it was “an extraordinary performance,” and Matt Barber of Liberty Counsel wrote a piece on World Net Daily that “Liberty Counsel’s got your flank” and revealed his belief that “Mr. Cruz emasculated, delightfully, Obama’s political yes-bots on both sides of the aisle.”

    Rove thought Cruz “was cogent, he was thoughtful, he was funny, he was engaging, he was personal, he was personable.”

    I think Cruz is barely cogent at the best of times but during his phony filibuster he displayed just how clueless he is by failing to understand a children’s book.
    And we want this guy to have the nuclear football?


    THIS COMMENT [Just as BRUTAL :>)] —

    – —Anne
    The problem with Barber and these other bottom feeders is that their idea of freedom is denying the rest of us our freedom to reject their repulsive ideology and/or religious beliefs. The fact that they would happily deny millions of Americans the right to adequate health care in the name of religion is a mockery of all that Jesus Christ exemplified in his short life on earth. There is no humanity in these folks who apparently have no problem with the suffering and even deaths that have occurred when people have been deprived of health care, or the many more that would if they have their way Ted Cruz is their hero because he is just like them in all their barbaric lack of concern for fellow humans. They rally around him because he’s in the Senate voicing their hideously regressive beliefs and inducing the House Republicans to go along with him. But if what he proposes ever comes to pass, they will be squealing the loudest when they get more than they bargained for.

  • GreenLadyHere


    – —As government shutdown looms, Obamacare exchanges still set for launch – – – –

    – —- –It’s looking more and more like Tuesday will be a split-screen day: The government will shut down, and Obamacare will open for business.

    That’s going to annoy a lot of Republicans —because the ones who are pushing the shutdown are doing so precisely because they want to halt Obamacare.

    — –SNIP — –

    But Tuesday is also the day that Obamacare’s new health insurance marketplaces — some run by the states, many run by the feds — are scheduled to start signing up customers. And President Barack Obama has made it clear that, even if the government closes, the health care show will go on. – – – –Woo! Hoo! –

    [Gotta “bounce” – —MISSIN’ U/CARRYIN’ U – –IN MY♥ –Good NFL — luck.♥ :>)]

  • aleth

    Interesting to watch these terrorist and their enabling media in action, but you know they white so it’s all right. Go Koch brothers!!! POC gonna be fine but should interesting to see how the white left and right deal with a shut down. The GOP conduct is to ensure America never votes for a person of color ever again because America will be scared of going through this again. GOP will suffer no consequences as a result of gerrymandered districts, media cover up and an ignorant citizenry. GOP feel empowered because the fact remains that more than 60% of white folk voted for Romney..let that sink in. Their racial interest outweighed their economic interest and the GOP is a party that believes only the majority voice should win. How dare this black man upset the social order or disrupt the Washington Anglo Saxon consensus.
    Yes, the whole thing from 2009 has been deliberate supported by corporations and the propaganda networks they own. The Romney loss was the last straw. They don’t see America as theirs anymore since the “others” are now visible so they want to let it burn to the ground. They count on the fact that the President loves this country and the people that he negotiates with them to make sure the people don’t suffer. However, the forget that he also has a last straw and a game plan. He like every other black folk know white people more than they know themselves because we watch you while you define us through your stereotypes. So shut it down and let even the old folk suffer so they know the consequence of electing radical Koch and Alec owned representatives.

    It is sad that even in NJ folk gonna elect Chris Christie while he fucks us from behind and disrespects civics/ citizenry. The folks in NC are learning the hardway but I’m sure some think it will only publish the “colored” folk. But I will say one thing, an injustice to one is an injustice to all.

    Between the domestic games to the international games especially seeing the Arabian pennisular v. Persian geopolitics, it’s an interesting time to be alive. Let’s see what Saudi arabia ( don’t forget they are funding the rebels as they are majority Sunni- if u want to know why president Obama is weary of SA and rebels seed his anti war speech to get his view of SA royalty) and israel plan to destabilize and ensure diplomacy does not work with IRan. Never forget Yemen, Syria,Afghanistan,Iraq have been proxy wars between these two ideology of a widened Arabian pen v Persia. THe fight over the sphere of influence in that region that’s been going on since the fall of the ottoman empire. The current us foreign policy does not see the Saudi Arabia- israel alliance as beneficial to us strategic interest, rather it sees it has creating more cost for the US ala Iraq war. What we are seeing is US taking care of US first I.e. if you say a nuclear Iran is dangerous for the region, then let’s neutralize it because we will not be putting our troops there. If you say Syria is cray cray well Russia u don’t want us to do anything, then take care of your buyer.

    But as we can see, this is not what the players in the region want. They have no desire to see a competitive and open iran. Let’s see how the hard lines with these two act and let’s see how Russia reacts to Iran moving away from its strangle hold. Pssssss…Iran saw Putin drop the dice on Syria for self protection that it reconsidered its relationship along with the effect of the sanctions. There was already a strain the relationship with the 2010 sanction vote from russia. It should all be interesting watching US play both side, tell hard truths and shift course to the pacific. Oh BRazil…watch ur self as Russia has no loyalty to anyone.

    It is an interesting time to be alive. Go Susan Rice, Hagel,KErry and the whole team Obama. I do not believe HIllary was good at her job as she was more interested in self promotion than performing at the will of the president. These people get it.

    • isonprize

      GOP feel empowered because the fact remains that more than 60% of white folk voted for Romney..let that sink in.

      [PBO] like every other black folk know white people more than they know themselves because we watch you while you define us through your stereotypes. So shut it down and let even the old folk suffer so they know the consequence of electing radical Koch and Alec owned representatives.

      DAMN, aleth, just DAMN.

      • AxelFoley

        You ain’t neva lied. aleth was spot-on with that.

    • trose1

      Aleth! Great analysis.

      I don’t think people really understand the dynamics/consequences of this fact.
      “GOP feel empowered because the fact remains that more than 60% of white folk voted for Romney.”

      I am still baffled how the people of New Jersey like Chris Christie. It doesn’t make sense. I thought NJ was a Dem state?????

      • MsKitty

        It is. As much as I can’t stand Cory Booker if he ran for Governor this really would have been a tight race, but he saw more glory in being a Senator.

        So once that happened, the NJ Dem trust basically decided it would be in “their” best interests to keep their powder dry until 2017. There’s no other way to explain them basically pulling someone off the street with no name recognition to run against Christie, and leaving her to fend for herself with no support, no media buys, and no campaign consulting. It’s been a sham throughout.

        • Aquagranny911

          Dang, MsKitty! Is this woman any good? If she is, can grass roots work for her against the Christie machine? Money isn’t the everything in politics. Sometimes I’ve seen it work against people here in AZ.

          She will have to be willing to stump, stand on street corners, talk to every person in NJ if that’s what it takes. If she is really willing to do the hard work then maybe she has a chance.

          • MsKitty

            That’s the thing, Barbara Buono (that’s her name) hasn’t really gone out of her way to make this a campaign.

            To get a better idea, here’s a little breakdown of NJ dynamics. New Jersey in many ways is like 2 different states: north of Trenton (North Jersey) is closely tied to New York City in media, sports, suburbs, very urbanized. I live south of Trenton (South Jersey) which is closely tied to Philly, rural area buffeted by Atlantic City to the east and Camden to the west.

            Sepia could probably better speak about what Buono has been up to in North Jersey, but thus far she has not made any appearances here, I think there’s maybe a few campaign offices here if that. Granted most Jersey politicians look at South Jersey as the red headed stepchild that is only worth acknowledging at election time, but the fact that Buono is going that route so far behind in the polls makes me feel like she’s not taking the campaign seriously.

            I almost feel like when I mark my ballot on November 5 it will be more a vote against Christie as opposed to voting for her.

          • Aquagranny911

            I hear you on this! We have that problem here in AZ where so called “Baja Arizona” the southern part of our state is almost another country from “The Valley” central Phoenix area.

            A truly viable state wide candidate has to not only have the total support of Southern AZ but has to deal with the entrenched Maricopa county (Phoenix) machine as well.

            As much as I liked, supported & worked for him, Rich Cardona failed to do the real, on your feet ground work in Phoenix. It isn’t enough to just have supporters working their buns off. A candidate needs to be really out there him or herself too.

            I know we didn’t have the $$$ to counter negative TV ads but it isn’t TV ads that really elect a candidate. People remember that a candidate listened to their concerns & shook their hands in front of the grocery store when they go to the polls.

            I wish you luck, maybe someone else will come forward.

    • Aquagranny911

      Excellent analysis!

    • rikyrah

      They don’t realize it..

      but, they snapped his last Black nerve.

      He has no more fucks to give.

  • AxelFoley

    Morning, fam.

    Went to Baltimore yesterday to visit my daughter at UMBC. Had a GREAT time. Of course, she broke my wallet when we went shopping, LOL.

    Oh, saw this on CNN yesterday morning when we stopped at McDonald’s to get breakfast–ol’ 300 Sandwiches girl is making the rounds talking about her culinary skills. And come to find out, she works for the NewYork Post. Explains a lot.

    • Alma98

      Morning Axel, glad you had fun with your baby girl I miss mine so much. As for sandwich girl lot of people on POU said she was running a scam. I guess people will do anything for stardom now smh.

    • Aquagranny911

      Hola Axe!

      So glad you had fun with your Daughter. As the father of three daughters, Hubby use to say: “Not only do they wear my t-shirts & dress shirts but I might as well just hand them my wallet because it is always open for something even after I give them the shirts off my back!” Wearing guy shirts was “cool” for teen girls back in the day. One daughter still has & wears his Navy Bridge Coat. Poor Hubby, now the oldest Grandson is raiding his closet.

      After we laughed our asses over Sandwiches girl, it was deduced by POU that there was definitely method ($$$) to the madness.

      • isonprize

        Daddy shirts are the best, bester, BESTEST shirts in the WHOLE WIDE WORLD!!

        My mom started me early. I used to sleep in my daddy’s shirts. After he had worn out the elbows (collars, cuffs, etc.) Mommy would cut off the offending part and sometimes, even sew something girlie on it and make them sleep shirts. I still have one, and it is a memory, most definitely!!

        • Aquagranny911

          My girls would so agree!

    • Miranda

      That reminds me…my God son at UMBC texted me a ‘Hey! just wanted to say hi” message yesterday.

      Translation: I need some money. please go to Bank of America and put some in my account.

      • Aquagranny911


      • rikyrah


        got that translation loud and clear

    • rikyrah

      Explains a whole lot

      • conlakappa

        She disclosed it from jump though. IIRC, it was in the first paragraph of the reveal of who she was, a senior correspondent on Page 6.

  • crazycanuck


  • crazycanuck

    yes goooooooal

    • Miranda

      We, the USA team…demand that Canada reclaim Ted Cruz at once.

      • Aquagranny911

        Miranda, our only hope is to mail him there with postage due & maybe Canada can forward him to Cuba.

      • crazycanuck

        ain’t gonna happen, dream on suckers lol.

        • Aquagranny911

          Don’t be so smug! We know where you live & what you like to eat & also those jeans you are lusting over. Are those jeans hanging in your closet now? I thought not! I do know people who know even more people….

          • crazycanuck

            I ain’t afraid of you wussy Americans, who can’t handle your nutcases in government.

          • Aquagranny911

            Ha! I will quote Alma:

            “Don’t make us come up there!”

          • Alma98


        • Alma98


  • Alma98

    Good morning everyone.

    • sagittarius

      Morning, Alma!

      • Alma98

        Morning sagi!

    • rikyrah

      Good Afternoon, Alma.

      Wonderful Sun there.

      • Alma98

        Afternoon rikyrah, thank you.

  • sagittarius

    Good morning, Fam!

    This is the day the Lord has made. Let us rejoice and be glad in it.

    Have a wonderful day!

    Go Bears!

    • rikyrah

      Good Morning, sag.

      Did you see this story?

      Watchdog: Store with ties to felon latest problem for blighted neighborhood

      Poverty and profits: City gives felon six-figure grant to open liquor store

      Chicago Tribune reporters

      7:00 a.m. CDT, September 29, 2013

      With backing from the local alderwoman and money from City Hall, a new liquor store opened earlier this year in South Austin — one more purveyor of alcohol, cigarettes and lottery tickets in a neighborhood desperate for something more.

      Informing the original backer of the store that he would be getting $105,000 in city funds, a letter from the Department of Community Development exclaimed: “Thank you for reinvesting in the City of Chicago!”

      Many residents weren’t so enthusiastic. To them, the new business was an insult.

      But what even they didn’t know was that the store was bankrolled and launched by a convicted drug-dealer who has been tied to a street gang and is facing yet another narcotics charge.,0,2407751.story

      How many Black businessmen/women WHO AREN’T FORMER FELONS could have used a CHICAGO LIQUOR LICENSE?


      You mean there wasn’t ONE application for a Chicago Liquor License from a Black Businessman on the waiting list ahead of this criminal?

      Yeah yeah yeah…we should pull folks back into the community after their stint in jail…

      but, for pete’s sake, there are enough Black entrepreneurs out here, WHO HAVEN’T BROKEN ANY LAWS, that could have used that liquor license.

      Outside of a cab medallion, there is nothing harder for a BLACK PERSON TO GET IN CHICAGO more than a LIQUOR LICENSE.

      • sagittarius

        Hi, rikyrah!

        No, I hadn’t heard about this… thanks for the heads up. Imma say it… this city was barely treading water with Crook Daley in office; it is regressing in Mayor One-Term’s stint.

  • Aquagranny911

    Good Sunday morning POU!

    I love seeing coalitions like this….

    If someone already posted this I will delete.

    • Alma98

      Morning AG!

    • AxelFoley

      A real coalition of the willing. 😉

      • Aquagranny911

        Nurses rock! They have been great promoters of Obamacare. I talked to several during GOTV last year & they were so excited about how good ACA was and how it would make patient care so much better.

    • rikyrah

      Good Morning, AG!

  • rikyrah

    Actress Jennifer Lewis was asked; What advice would she give aspiring actors, who are trying to get into the business, and boy did she answer!

    • Alma98

      Loved that! She told the truth and looked damn good while doing so. I love her hair! Loves it!

    • Miranda

      LOVE HER!

    • sagittarius

      Three words: Fab-U-Lous!

    • itgurl_29

      I love Jennier Lewis. She’s young black American’s “play mama”.

  • rikyrah

    The title of this Editorial is on the money, and it’s the reason why the GOP and their overlords are fighting this so hard. Obamacare IS a game changer…in so many ways.


    Dawn of a Revolution in Health Care
    Published: September 28, 2013

    The United States is embarking on a truly historic journey toward near-universal health care coverage this week. Starting Tuesday, the federal government will make it possible for millions of uninsured Americans who can’t get health insurance, or can’t afford it, to obtain coverage with the aid of government subsidies. It is a striking example of what government can do to help people in trouble.

    The health care reform law, known as the Affordable Care Act, requires the creation in every state of new health insurance exchanges on which people can shop for health plans. Insurers selling plans on exchanges will have to provide a set of “essential benefits” and virtually anyone will be allowed to buy on exchanges (except undocumented immigrants), though few people who are covered by employer health plans or by public programs like Medicare and Medicaid are likely to switch.

    For the first time last week, federal officials reported what health insurance will probably cost in the 36 states where the federal government will fully or partly run the exchanges. The prospects are promising. It looks as if most uninsured people, including young people whose participation is crucial, will be able to find very affordable coverage with the help of government subsidies.

    The insurers will offer four levels of plans that will basically have the same essential services, but differ in the premiums charged and the amount of the bill that the insurance will pay. “Bronze” plans will pay 60 percent of an enrollee’s covered medical expenses; “silver,” 70 percent; “gold,” 80 percent; and “platinum,” 90 percent.

    Federal subsidies will help enrollees pay for the premiums based on their incomes. A family of four with income between $23,550 and $31,400, will pay only 2 percent of that income for coverage, while a family of four with income between $70,650 and $94,200, will pay 9.5 percent.

    Under the program, the federal government pays for the full cost of the premium — beyond the enrollee’s contribution — for the second-lowest-cost silver plan in a specific area, considered the “benchmark” plan. If people want to sign up for a cheaper bronze plan, they would pay a smaller contribution. If they want to buy a gold or platinum plan, they would have to pay more from their own pockets.

    Thanks to the subsidies, more than half of the uninsured Americans may pay less than $100 a month per person for coverage.

    • Farrod

      Hi Rikyrah, do you know if there are any measures the Prez can take to override or end a shutdown?

      • rikyrah

        can’t end the shutdown

        I do believe he has options about the debt ceiling

  • Miranda

    Completely nuts.

    GOP lawmakers bridle at calling Affordable Care Act the law
    By Sam Baker – 09/29/13 12:00 PM ET

    In floor speeches, TV interviews and town halls, Republicans often refer to President Obama’s signature healthcare law either as “ObamaCare” or a healthcare “bill” — subtly implying that it’s not truly permanent.

    “The bill is named after the president. Why wouldn’t the president want to be under the bill?” Sen. Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.) asked in a floor speech earlier this month, making the case that the president should get his healthcare through ObamaCare.

    Conservatives in the Senate repeatedly called the law a bill last week as they tried to push their colleagues to embrace the possibility of a government shutdown over ObamaCare.

    “The very people that this bill is supposed to be helping … are the people it is directly hurting,” Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said during the 21-hour talk-a-thon led by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas).

    Read more:

  • rikyrah

    September 29, 2013 at 10:12 am

    I reprise some points I made in my post from Thursday for emphasis:


    ACA:The 3rd Revolutionary Safety Net

    An important distinction to note is that the earlier 2 pillars of the social safety net, Social Security & Medicare, were severely limited in scope at their inception because FDR & LBJ had to make concessions to Dixiecrats, segregationists who did not want certain populations benefiting from those laws. So SS initially excluded coverage to majority of those professions that happened to be filled mostly by people of color, immigrants. Pegging Medicare’s eligibility age at 65 similarly cutout groups who had much lower life expectancy.


    But the ACA is the first law that does NOT limit access demographically, right out of the gate. Think about that. No one is excluded from participating, not by race, ethnicity, region, profession, or income. Taxation-wise it is the most progressive, unlike SS or Medicare taxes that absolve the wealthy from paying more. The wealthy pony up for the ACA, and they hate it.


    The ACA also breaks the stranglehold of employers on workers, who until now have hung onto miserable jobs for dear life cuz of healthcare, and have traded real wages for “benefit packages” whose worth start depreciating the very moment you start clocking into work. Paltry salaries will be revealed for what they truly are.

    The boon will be for those raring to strike out on their own but have dared not take the risk because of healthcare security their employer provides, and the fear of illness bankrupting them should they leave.

  • Miranda

    And all facets of the mainstream media are all too willing to do the work for the GOP this time as well.
    Thanks to the Digital Revolution, a Conservative Uprising Can Rally Its Troops

    WASHINGTON — Ask conservatives what went wrong for them the last time the government shut down, and many of them will bring up the cover of The Daily News of New York from Nov. 16, 1995.

    Under the block-lettered headline “Cry Baby,” it showed a cartoon of Newt Gingrich, then speaker of the Republican-led House, in tears, clutching a bottle and wearing nothing but a cloth diaper.

    Back then, Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News Channel was a year from its debut, Andrew Breitbart was a lowly assistant at E! Online, and The Drudge Report was an obscure gossip and news digest sent by e-mail — to the lucky few who had e-mail.

    But today, a fervent group of conservatives — bloggers, pundits, activists and even members of Congress — is harnessing the power of the Internet, determined to tell the story of the current budget showdown on its terms.

    Even if their version of events does not help change popular perceptions enough to give Republicans the upper hand when it comes to public opinion, their efforts are, at a minimum, helping to stoke energy on the right that is invigorating the party’s base.

    more here:

    • Yawn. What rally? Everything and I mean everything always stokes the Republican base. So what? Two people showed up for the Cruz marathon. The majority of Republicans don’t want to shut down the government over Obamacare. Honestly they right this stuff every few months. Great now write me the one about how the Obama coalition is energizing its base as well. Criminy.

  • rikyrah

    Congress Cracks Up
    Published: September 27, 2013

    Our challenge today is to explain how Congress evolved into our national nutcase.

    So, what do you think is wrong with these people? Thanks to gerrymandered Congressional districts and the Tea Party, we do seem to have a surprising number of elected officials who actually don’t believe that raising the debt limit so the government can pay its bills is a good plan. (“All that does is just say: ‘Well, you’ve got a little bit more credit — keep spending,’ ” Representative Walter Jones of North Carolina once told a radio interviewer.)

    But there’s got to be more to it than that. Let’s try to think of three other reasons the United States Congress continues to behave as if it’s playing the Jack Nicholson part in “The Shining.” I’ll go first.

    1. The Republicans are desperately, obsessively demonizing Obamacare to cover up the fact that they don’t want to do anything to Medicare or Social Security. Those used to be the party’s obsession — remember privatizing Social Security? But that was before they noticed that the entire Republican base is on Social Security.

    Ranting about Obamacare, which one New Hampshire politician recently compared to the Fugitive Slave Act, is an excellent way to give the impression that you’re fighting to reduce entitlements without having to do anything about the actual entitlements.

  • rikyrah

    The House GOP Wants to Throw a Temper Tantrum, and Boehner Can’t Stop Them


    Here’s the question to ask yourself while watching the government shutdown/debt-limit insanity play out these next few days: Is the congressional GOP a global menace, bent on destruction of an epic scale, or merely a goofy, intermittently-competent-at-best, primarily self-destructive force?

    Since Republicans took over the House in early 2011, my assumption has been Choice A, “global menace,” despite some pretty chronic displays of goofiness. Among other things, this has been the basis for my view that our best hope for avoiding a debt default is for John Boehner to shut down the government by holding fast to conservative demands on defunding health care reform, thereby engineering enough political blowback to demonstrate how isolated his lunatics really are, and forcing them to sober up in time to raise the debt limit by the mid-October deadline. In this view, Boehner is a Hurt Locker-esque bomb disabler who must navigate around improvised explosives that will detonate with a single false move.

    There are times, however, when the alternative rings far truer—when the clownishness becomes so laughably self-sabotaging you struggle to take these guys seriously. As it happens, Thursday was a prime example. Ever since Boehner bowed to the Tea Partiers and passed a bill that ties government funding to the defunding of health care, it’s been clear that the Senate would reject it. This has left Boehner struggling to come up with a second move, and Thursday he thought he’d found it: Pass a bill that would basically make the GOP’s entire 2012 campaign platform—delaying health care reform, demanding tax reform, gutting environmental regulations, mandating offshore drilling—a condition for raising the debt ceiling.

  • rikyrah

    Quitting for Obamacare: Trapped workers may seek relief in new health exchanges
    JoNel Aleccia NBC News

    As millions of Americans wait to see how the federal health exchanges shake out, some who’ve been hanging onto their jobs just for the insurance say Obamacare gives them a new reason to bid their old employers goodbye.

    One Arizona couple, Claudia and Joseph Schulz, just quit their jobs, in fact, and launched a husband-and-wife real estate team, largely because they can sign up this week for health insurance not tethered to any position.

    “That was the fear before. We felt too much on our own,” says Claudia Schulz, 33, of Phoenix. “Now, if we’re able to make our dream come true of owning our own business, or at least giving it a shot, it’s worth it.”

    Starting a business or retiring early will suddenly become an option under the new exchanges, experts say, especially for the many employees who have felt trapped by so-called “job lock” — being stuck in a position because of the benefits, usually health insurance, it provides.

    “The Affordable Care Act completely changes the playing field,” says Paul Fronstin, director of the health research programs at the Employee Benefit Research Institute. “You don’t need your employer any more for health benefits.”

    It may be particularly attractive for older workers — those in their late 50s and early 60s still too young for Medicare — who will find they can get affordable insurance despite health problems. That will free them from the trap of needing to work, but being too sick to stay on the job, experts say.

    Entrepreneurs of all ages will be able to choose careers “based on the job where they’re going to be most productive,” says Laurel Lucia, a policy analyst at the Center for Labor Research and Education at the University of California, Berkeley.

  • rikyrah

    Tea Party Lawmaker Letter on Med Device Tax Repeal Authored by Lobby Group
    Lee Fang on September 28, 2013 – 4:06 PM ET

    Today, House Republicans pushed one more step towards a government shut down by coalescing around a continuing resolution that delays the implementation of the Affordable Care Act by one year, while permanently repealing one of the primary funding mechanisms for the law, a 2.3 percent excise tax on medical device companies.

    While its clear that Democrats will reject any delay of health reform, the move to revoke the medical device tax can be seen as a coup by industry lobbyists. The medical device industry, led by AdvaMed, a trade association that spends $29 million a year, has pushed aggressively to ensure that medical device companies contribute nothing to the financing of the Affordable Care Act.

    After the Tea Party catapulted House Republicans into the majority, seventy-five right-wing lawmakers wrote a letter to Speaker Boehner demanding that a vote to repeal the device tax occur “as soon as possible.” The metadata of the letter shows that it was authored by Ryan Strandlund, a member of AdvaMed’s government affairs team:

    • Aquagranny911

      Always follow the $$$. I have been wondering if the repeated attempts to take birth control drugs & measures out of ACA is not just a fundie obsession but because the drug companies have been making enormous profits on this for a long time.

      Obamacare making it free will probably limit the drug company profits. I do tend to be very cynical where ever $$$ is involved. I always ask “Cui bono?” Who benefits?

  • rikyrah

    House Republicans embrace government-shutdown plan
    By Steve Benen

    Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:56 PM EDT

    Just a few days ago, there was ample reason to believe a government shutdown was unlikely. The process was unfolding as if it had been scripted — the House passed its far-right version, which the Senate fixed and sent back. All the House had to do was pass the Senate version, keep the government’s lights on, and we could all move on to the next Republican-imposed crisis. At least temporarily, it was going to be relatively easy.

    But that’s apparently not going to happen.

    House Republicans unveiled a plan on Saturday that would keep the government open until Dec. 15 in exchange for a one-year delay of Obamacare — an idea Democrats have vowed to reject.

    The House GOP’s decision to drive a hard line on health care means a government shutdown is practically inevitable on Oct. 1, since Democrats in the Senate have vowed to reject it.

    Specifically, House Republicans, apparently acting at Sen. Ted Cruz’s (R-Texas) behest, have demanded a temporary spending bill that would (a) delay implementation of the Affordable Care Act for a year; (b) repeal the health care law’s medical device tax, which means Republicans hope to add over $100 billion to the deficit over the next decade; and (c) provide funds to U.S. troops in the event Republicans shut down the federal government

  • rikyrah

    The Complete Guide To The GOP’s Three-Year Campaign To Shut Down The Government

    By Igor Volsky on September 20, 2013 at 9:01 am

    As the nation races toward another budgetary crisis, Republican leaders are using the prospect of a government shutdown and the need to raise the nation’s debt ceiling as leverage points to undermine the Affordable Care Act — just days before uninsured Americans are expected to sign up for health care coverage — and extract additional cuts to government programs.

    Past Congresses have used the debt ceiling as a “vehicle for other legislative matters” or nongermane amendments, but as the timeline below demonstrates, the Republicans that came to power after the 2010 midterm elections demanded something entirely different: they threatened to push the nation into default and shut down the government unless Congress approves deep structural budget cuts during a period of economic recession.

    In November of 2010, GOP leaders informally polled the incoming freshman and were surprised to discover that “all but four of them said they would vote against raising the ceiling, under any circumstances.” This response was the result of what the Washington Post described as a “natural outgrowth of a years-long effort” by GOP recruiters to build a new majority with uncompromising anti-tax, anti-spending candidates and it effectively hamstrung Republican leaders from accepting any kind of budgetary compromise from the Obama administration. As a result, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) walked away from so-called grand bargains with the White House at least twice and have since adopted the same kind of uncompromising rhetoric that’s known to animate political campaigns, not actual governance.

  • rikyrah

    The House Republican tantrum that knows no end
    By Steve Benen

    Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:02 AM EDT

    The New York Times published a helpful chart the other day, which highlighted a nine-step process Congress would have to follow this week to avoid a government shutdown. As it happens, steps one through eight were completed with relative ease.

    It was that ninth step that gave lawmakers trouble.

    House Republicans not only gathered on a weekend to take a vote that moves the government even closer to a shutdown, they did it in the dead of night.

    The Republican-controlled House voted around midnight on Saturday to keep the government open for a few more months in exchange for punting the rollout of Obamacare for a year — the kind of shot at the health care law conservatives had wanted for weeks, even if it’s sure to be rejected by the Democratic-controlled Senate.

    By all appearances, House Republicans are now actively seeking a government shutdown, specifically aiming for their goal rather than making any effort to avoid it. Indeed, the unhinged House majority appears to have gone out of its way to craft a spending bill designed to fail.

    The bill approved after midnight would deny health care benefits to millions of American families for a year, add to the deficit by repealing a medical-device tax industry lobbyists urged Republicans to scrap, and in a fascinating twist, make it harder for Americans to get birth control. As the New York Times report noted, “The delay included a provision favored by social conservatives that would allow employers and health care providers to opt out of mandatory contraception coverage.”

    Yes, in the midst of a budget crisis, the House GOP decided it was time to go after birth control again. Wow.

  • Miranda

    Afternoon thread is up!

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