October 21, 2017

Thursday Open Thread: African-American Civil War Spies


Oh, yeah…Happy 4th of July


American Gothic by Gordon Parks


We continue our series on African-American Civil War Spies

(1820 – March 10, 1913)


When people think of Harriet Tubman, the Underground Railroad immediately comes to mind. But there was another occupation on Ms. Tubman’s resume — Union Spy!


When Lincoln finally issued the Emancipation Proclamation in January 1863, Tubman considered it an important step toward the goal of liberating all black men, women, and children from slavery.[106] She renewed her support for a defeat of the Confederacy, and before long she was leading a band of scouts through the land around Port Royal. The marshes and rivers in South Carolina were similar to those of the Eastern Shore of Maryland; thus her knowledge of covert travel and subterfuge among potential enemies were put to good use.[107] Her group, working under the orders of Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton, mapped the unfamiliar terrain and reconnoitered its inhabitants. She later worked alongside Colonel James Montgomery, and provided him with key intelligence that aided the capture of Jacksonville, Florida.[108]

Later that year, Tubman became the first woman to lead an armed assault during the Civil War.[109] When Montgomery and his troops conducted an assault on a collection of plantations along the Combahee River, Tubman served as a key adviser and accompanied the raid. On the morning of June 2, 1863, Tubman guided three steamboats around Confederate mines in the waters leading to the shore.[110] Once ashore, the Union troops set fire to the plantations, destroying infrastructure and seizing thousands of dollars worth of food and supplies.[111] When the steamboats sounded their whistles, slaves throughout the area understood that it was being liberated. Tubman watched as slaves stampeded toward the boats. “I never saw such a sight,” she said later,[112] describing a scene of chaos with women carrying still-steaming pots of rice, pigs squealing in bags slung over shoulders, and babies hanging around their parents’ necks. Although their owners, armed with handguns and whips, tried to stop the mass escape, their efforts were nearly useless in the tumult.[111] As Confederate troops raced to the scene, steamboats packed full of slaves took off toward Beaufort.[113]

More than 700 slaves were rescued in the Combahee River Raid.[114][115] Newspapers heralded Tubman’s “patriotism, sagacity, energy, [and] ability”,[116] and she was praised for her recruiting efforts – most of the newly liberated men went on to join the Union army.[117] Tubman later worked with Colonel Robert Gould Shaw at the assault on Fort Wagner, reportedly serving him his last meal.[118] She described the battle by saying: “And then we saw the lightning, and that was the guns; and then we heard the thunder, and that was the big guns; and then we heard the rain falling, and that was the drops of blood falling; and when we came to get the crops, it was dead men that we reaped.”[119]

For two more years, Tubman worked for the Union forces, tending to newly liberated slaves, scouting into Confederate territory, and eventually nursing wounded soldiers in Virginia.[120] She also made periodic trips back to Auburn, to visit her family and care for her parents.[121] The Confederacy surrendered in April 1865; after donating several more months of service, Tubman headed home.[122]

Tubman returned to Auburn at the end of the war. During a train ride to New York, the conductor told her to move into the smoking car. She refused, explaining her government service. He cursed at her and grabbed her, but she resisted and he summoned two other passengers for help. While she clutched at the railing, they muscled her away, breaking her arm in the process. They threw her into the smoking car, causing more injuries. As these events transpired, other white passengers cursed Tubman and shouted for the conductor to kick her off the train.[123]

Despite her years of service, she had never received a regular salary and was for years denied compensation.[124][125] Her unofficial status and the unequal payments offered to black soldiers caused great difficulty in documenting her service, and the U.S. government was slow in recognizing its debt to her.[126] Tubman did not receive a pension for her service in the Civil War until 1899.[127][128] Her constant humanitarian work for her family and former slaves, meanwhile, kept her in a state of constant poverty, and her difficulties in obtaining a government pension were especially taxing for her.[129]

(SOURCE: Wikipedia)


But the students at the Albany Free School weren’t trying to hear that!

(From Smithsonian.com)

In 2003, after students at the Albany Free School brought the issue of Tubman’s remaining pension to the attention of New York Senator Hilary Rodham Clinton, Congress authorized a payment of $11,750 to the Harriet Tubman Home in Auburn.

  • crazycanuck

    Good Morning, Happy Fourth of July, and with that I’ll leave you with Fleetwood Mac lmao. Gold Dust Woman, which has absouletely nothing to do with Fourth of July. Love the way she exists the stage at the end.

    • GreenLadyHere

      Good MornTin’ crazycanuck. ***BIG HUG*** :>) — —

      THANK U 4 your KIND wishes. :>) — –

      —-ENJOY. :>) – –
      Good 2 C U. :>) B BLESSED 2-day. :>) –

    • Miranda

      I love Fleetwood Mac to cc! Their VHI “Behind the Music” special was awesome…they had all KINDS of issues! LOL

      • TyrenM

        They took “free love…sex, drugs and rocknroll” to another level.

        That said, I like me some Stevie Nicks and Christie McVie.

  • malletgirl02

    I’m sure who posted it, I think it was creolechild, but that post about how the teabaggers appropriated Frederick Douglas was very funny, because we know Douglas would have nothing to do with the teabaggers. The teabaggers of his day were the confederates who fought to keep blacks enslaved. It is like the teabaggers don’t have their own heros so they appropriate others. That is one of the reasons they are a joke.

    • creolechild

      Malletgirl, good morning. I didn’t post article you’re referring to; that was Miranda. (:

  • creolechild

    Good morning POU and CC.

    On Tuesday, Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley (D) nominated Judge Mary Ellen Barbera to be the next Chief Judge of the Court of Appeals of Maryland, and named a lower court judge named Shirley Watts to replace a vacancy on that court. Maryland’s Court of Appeals is the highest court in that state, so the addition of Judge Watts will mean that four of the court’s seven seats will be held by women.

    Meanwhile, an all-male majority on the Supreme Court of the United States recently handed down a pair of decisions protecting many bosses who engage in sexual harassment and companies that retaliate against people who file civil rights claims. All three of the Supreme Court’s women dissented from these decisions.

    Source: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/07/03/2255041/marylands-highest-court-is-poised-to-be-majority-women/

    H/T Ian Millhiser

  • creolechild

    Walmart, McDonalds, Walgreens Cheating Hourly Workers? NY AG Investigates Use Of Prepaid Payroll Cards

    [….] Schneiderman is looking to find out more about the process; if it’s costing employees more in fees and whether or not employees have an easy way to choose how they are paid.[….] Under New York state law employees must give advance written consent to be paid by payroll cards and any agreement to receive wages by the cards can’t be a condition of employment.[….] Plus, prepaid cards often don’t have the protections of a checking account.

    [….] Of course, there’s an incentive for banks that may want to partner with large retailers for the prepaid cards. Fees are a big money maker for banks. The New York AG’s office is asking for a report of fees paid by employees or deducted from accounts as a result of payroll cards. He also wants to see the communication between the employers and the financial institution issuing the cards.[….]

    Read more: http://www.forbes.com/sites/halahtouryalai/2013/07/03/walmart-mcdonalds-walgreens-cheating-hourly-workers-ny-ag-investigates-use-of-prepaid-payroll-cards/

    H/T Halah Touryalai

  • creolechild


    Twenty Pies to Make This Summer

    Revel in the season with a pie (or a tart, or a cobbler). Here are 20 recipes to carry you through the warm months.


    • jds09

      I love pie with all my heart and soul.

      • Aquagranny911

        Me too! I actually had a dream about making a cherry pie last night. I think I will bake one today. I have some cans of sour cherries.

  • creolechild

    Sen. Leahy: By Law, US Aid To Egypt Is Cut Off

    “The Morsi government has been a great disappointment to the people of Egypt, and to all who wish Egypt a successful transition to responsive, representative government under the rule of law,” said Leahy,[….] “He squandered an historic opportunity, preferring to govern by fiat rather than work with other political parties to do what is best for all Egyptians. Egypt’s military leaders say they have no intent or desire to govern, and I hope they make good on their promise.”

    “In the meantime, our law is clear: U.S. aid is cut off when a
    democratically elected government is deposed by military coup or
    decree. As we work on the new budget, my committee also will review future aid to the Egyptian government as we wait for a clearer picture. As the world’s oldest democracy, this is a time to reaffirm our commitment to the principle that transfers of power should be by the ballot, not by force of arms.”

    Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/sen-leahy-us-aid-to-egypt-is-cut

    H/T Perry Stein

  • creolechild

    According To New Poll The American People Despise Supreme Court Decision To Gut Voting Rights Act

    When the Supreme Court decided to gut the Voting Rights Act last
    week, America lost a landmark piece of legislation that was pivotal in
    the fight against discrimination across the country. The ruling
    instantly became one of the single worst in American judicial history,
    and most Americans could not agree more.

    According to the latest ABC News-Washington Post poll, over half of Americans disagree with the high court’s decision to gut the Voting Rights Act. That number includes a whopping 71% of African-Americans, who initially fought for and achieved the passage of
    the act during the 1960s Civil Rights movement. Only 33% of Americans actually agree with the court’s decision.[….]

    Read more: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/03/according-to-new-poll-the-american-people-despise-supreme-court-decision-to-gut-voting-right-act/

    H/T Stephen J. Foster Jr.

    • jds09

      I want cameras in the supreme court. I want Americans to be able to spot the supremes in the produce section at their local market. I’d be willing to pay my fair share of secret service protection for them. I want them to feel the public’s distaste for their decisions via public shaming and great amounts of shade. Bust their bubble.

    • TyrenM

      Wow. How many other Clarence Thomas’ are out there to equal the other 29%?

  • creolechild

    Pay It Forward: Innovative Oregon Proposal Could Solve Problem of Student Loan Debt

    [….] Under the proposal, referred to as Pay It Forward and lauded by Senator Mark Hass as an example of “out of the box thinking,” local students would be able to attend public universities and community colleges in the state for free. Instead of taking out costly loans, students would enter a social insurance program and pay about 3 percent of their adjusted gross income for graduates of four year programs, or 1.5 percent for two year programs, for a total of 24 years. Students would graduate with no debt, no interest and the percentage of their income they had to pay would never change.

    After passing in the Oregon House last week, the proposal was
    unanimously passed in the Oregon Senate on Monday. If signed into law, the bill would direct the Higher Education Coordinating Commission (HECC) to draft a Pay It Forward pilot program to be considered for implementation by the 2015 legislature.[….]

    Read more: http://thecontributor.com/education/pay-it-forward-innovative-or-proposal-could-solve-problem-student-loan-debt

    H/T The Contributor

  • creolechild

    Galveston spending $140K to put smelly seaweed to work

    [….] Officials plan to collect washed-up Sargassum from Galveston beaches, bale it and incorporate the compressed material into the sand dune to add protective volume and spur natural dune vegetation, according to Jens Figlus of Texas A&M University at Galveston, the project manager.

    For now, the Sargassum-enhanced dunes should provide immediate
    protection against storm surges and wave impact, according to the
    proposal presented to the university for review. In the coming years and decades, the material will decay and spur dune vegetation that will help sustain and even grow the dunes.[….]

    Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Galveston-spending-140K-to-put-smelly-seaweed-to-4640810.php

    H/T Robert Stanton

  • jds09

    Well written thoughtful piece….speaks to the GOP’s basic mistrust of women and their crazy belief they can legislate folks’ sexual activity.


  • rikyrah

    Good Morning, Everyone 🙂

    Happy 4th of July!

  • creolechild

    Historically Lazy Congress Only Manages to Pass 15 Legislative Items in 6 Months

    You might have thought the 112th Congress’ historic low of 23 legislative items passed at this same last year was the epic fail, but you’ll have to revise that. This 113th Congress has only passed 15 legislative items at the 6 month mark.[….] (You can cross check these here for bills signed by the President, but note that some of the Jan 2013 bills belong to the 112th Congress.) That’s it. Not one significant law in the bunch.

    Do you see a jobs bill anywhere? Nope. Do you see a budget resolution? Nope. The jobs bills were killed by the Republican House and budget reconciliation is also being stalled by the Republican House, who screamed about a budget for years until they got one. Now they can’t be bothered to sit down and begin the process of budget reconciliation because the Republican party
    can’t get their own act together enough to agree on anything.[….]

    Read more: http://www.politicususa.com/2013/07/02/historically-lazy-congress-manages-pass-15-legislative-items-6-months.html

    H/T Sarah Jones

    • rikyrah

      but they attempted to repeal Obamacare 40 times…

      and want all up in my uterus

  • rikyrah

    Happy Birthday to a true American Beauty: First Daughter Malia Obama!

  • GreenLadyHere
  • rikyrah

    “What does the Fourth of July Mean to the Negro?”

    In 1852, abolitionist, speaker and journalist Frederick Douglass delivered the speech, “What does the Fourth of July Mean to the Negro?” The speech speaks to the contraction of the celebration of American Independence that was simultaneous with the enslavement of Africans.


  • Miranda

    BBC Breaking News ‏@BBCBreaking5m
    The leader of the Muslim Brotherhood movement which supports Egypt’s ousted president has been arrested, security sources say

  • creolechild

    Dear Rachel Maddow: Last Week Was Not a Civil Rights Victory for All People – Posted about 23 hours ago

    Dearest Rachel…

    It’s me, Betsy. I am writing to say congratulations to you and all
    Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Americans. It has been a great week for all our LBGT brethren. Sadly, it is a little less so for those whose complexion is black or brown. Who am I kidding? It has been an awful week for America as a whole. Once again, we have done as we did since the day of our founding — we denied our brothers and sisters equal rights. I hope you understand that while I too think anytime rights are afforded to an individual or group it is a good time, a time to celebrate, this time I cannot. Indeed, I do not see a day when I will reflect on the Supreme Court’s rulings and be ready, willing, and able to rejoice.

    Affirmative Action lost. The inalienable right to cast a ballot for your Representatives is gone. It was not that either of these laws, in
    practice, ever brought about equality, but a girl can dream. I had hope. Now, I do not. Today, with my heart broken, I can only reflect on the old adage: if my brother is poor or in pain then so too am I. John Donne spoke for me when he said, “Any man’s death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.”

    I am unsure if you are with me Rachel. I listened to your review of
    the week and felt confused. Therefore I ask. On Thursday, June 27, 2013, you spoke of the angst yourself. You recounted the woe millions of California voters expressed on election night 2008. First, there was elation, the first black man was elected President of the United States. It seemed we had arrived. It was as you exclaimed, a “civil rights milestone.” People took to the streets and danced. Corks were popped. Confetti fell from sky-high windows. Then, as more ballots were tallied, a dark realization set in. In California, marriages once declared legal would not be going forward. As you stated, “That whiplash moment, that California, alone, experienced the night 
President Obama was first elected” was devastating.

    Perhaps, the man in the video clip you played this Thursday evening said it best for the LBGT community. “In 2008, when we elected the first African-American 
president, it was a glorious day, but later that night it was a horrible night when the returns for Prop 8 came in saying that we were going to be 
treated as second-class citizens, and we just could not fathom being 
treated like that anymore.”

    Therein lies the difference Rachel, one of many that I see. People of color can fathom being treated like scum. Of course, persons in the LBGT community can too. That said, the two experiences are not one. The color of our skin cannot be camouflaged. Sexual orientation is perhaps but a subtle “clue.” In other words, Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals, and Transgenders come out of the closet. Blacks and Browns are more likely to be invited into the [water] closet to clean the mess white persons’ leave behind. Caucasians can be so cruel, as can those of a certain socio-economic “class.”[…]

    Read more: http://thecontributor.com/gay-new-black

    H/T Betsey L. Angert

    • gn

      Rachel Maddow doesn’t get it because it’s in her interests to not get it. The appropriation of civil rights imagery, vernacular, and moral currency enforces white privilege and every intellectually honest person knows that. No point in trying to appeal to a benevolence which simply isn’t there. Rachel Maddow doesn’t represent for civil rights. Rachel Maddow isn’t an authority on civil rights. Rachel Maddow isn’t a scholar on civil rights. Sorry, it just is what it is.

      Just hoping this is a wakeup call for the black intelligentsia who have promoted this idea that we’ll benefit by handing over our legacy (for which we’re still payng a heavy price) to majority privileged groups to exploit. That’s been a fail and a disaster for us.

      • creolechild

        Agreed with everything you’ve stated GN. But I’m glad that she took it upon herself to leave no stone unturned about the reaction of our supposed “allies” regarding the SCOTUS decision. There have been far too few articles written about the impact that the ruling will have on us but I suppose that’s it not on a high priority list.

        • gn

          indeed, it’s a stellar letter!

          • creolechild

            Wholeheartedly agree with you on all counts, gn.

          • gn

            Re-reading my comments, reads as if I’m poo-pooing that letter, really sorry about that, not my intent, I think it’s brilliant. Just saw red and started ranting lol.

          • creolechild

            Awww…GN…don’t let the correct diction fool you, bay-bee. I have a tendency to become overly verbose more often than not when trying to express myself, but I DO NOT offend easily. I took your comment exactly as it was intended, and in the event that I didn’t..so what? It’s just a difference of opinion and not the end of the world–at least not here at POU. Besides, you were the one who raised concerns about the way this thing was headed months ago…and you were right.

          • Town

            Black intelligencia is an oxymoron.

          • gn


    • dannie22

      I posted it on twitter. Thanks creole!

  • rikyrah

    Our Old History of Fights Over Voting

    Jamelle Bouie

    July 3, 2013

    There’s not much new in the current fights over access to the polls.

    In the United States, voting rights don’t march forward as much as they ebb and flow. Often, it happens like this: The prospect of short-term political gain leads one of the two parties to make a massive push for democratic participation, which is then countered by the other side, which has an equally large interest in maintaining a smaller electorate of particular people. After North Carolina Democrats won unified control of state government in 2006—thanks to wide dissatisfaction with the Republican Party and high turnout from black voters—they moved to expand voting with same-day registration. Greater participation, they argued, was a good in itself. North Carolina Republicans took control of the legislature in 2010, and in the same vein, promptly moved to restrict voting where it was previously open. In 2011, then-Governor Bev Purdue vetoed a bill that would have required identification for all voters, end same-day registration, restrict early voting, and end voting on the Sunday before an election.

    Now, however, Republicans have the governorship as well as a veto-proof majority. And with the Supreme Court’s decision last week—which gutted the Voting Rights Act and ended the pre-clearance requirement for North Carolina, among other states—the GOP has a chance to turn this proposal into law. They aren’t wasting any time.

    With the Supreme Court’s decision on the Voting Rights Act—as well as the actions in states like North Carolina—that’s where the fight is now. Are we still a country that’s serious about opening the polls to all of its citizens, or do we believe that voting is for some, and not for others?


  • Miranda

    Five myths about the killing of Trayvon Martin
    By Jonathan Capehart, Published: July 3

    The killing of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman in Sanford, Fla., on Feb. 26, 2012, sparked a national debate on race, justice and the wisdom of “stand your ground” laws. But many of the facts in the case have been in dispute, from the moment this tragedy captured the public’s attention and through the ongoing Zimmerman trial. Misconceptions and misinformation abound about what happened, who did what and who said what to whom.

    more here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-the-killing-of-trayvon-martin/2013/07/03/0d76c176-e368-11e2-80eb-3145e2994a55_story.html?tid=pm_opinions_pop

  • creolechild

    U.K. Lawmaker Asks Police to Quiz Murdoch Over Bribes Comment

    A U.K. lawmaker called for News Corp. (NWSA) Chairman Rupert Murdoch to be questioned by police after a secret recording showed him saying that bribery had been routine practice by reporters. A transcript by Exaro News of a March 6 meeting between Murdoch and about 25 journalists from The Sun newspaper, many of them facing bribery charges, also showed him promising to give “total support” to reporters if they’re convicted.[….]

    [….]The content of the meeting, as well as the fact that it was secretly recorded and then leaked, shows the breakdown in trust between Murdoch and reporters on his flagship British paper, following the arrest of dozens of them on the basis of evidence supplied by News Corp.

    Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-04/u-k-lawmaker-asks-police-to-quiz-murdoch-over-bribes-comment.html

    H/T Robert Hutton

  • rikyrah

    Just how low can the Republican party go?

    The GOP has become the heartless party of cutting food aid to the poor, abortion bans and denying people health coverage

    What is the single most consequential political development of the past five years? Some might say the election (and re-election) of Barack Obama; others might point to the passage of the most important piece of social policy (Obamacare) since the 1960s; some might even say the drawing down of US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. But in reality, it is the rapid descent of the Republican party into madness.

    Never before in American history have we seen a political party so completely dominated and controlled by its extremist wing; and never before have we seen a political party that brings together the attributes of nihilism, heartlessness, radicalism and naked partisanship quite like the modern GOP. In a two-party system like America’s, the result is unprecedented dysfunction.

    Whether it was the promiscuous use of the filibuster and other blocking techniques in the Senate to stop President Obama’s agenda; the manufactured fiscal crises highlighted by the disastrous debt limit showdown of 2011; or the unceasing efforts to undermine the economic recovery by blocking any and all measures to stimulate the economy, President Obama’s first term was dominated by the Republican’s unbridled obstructionism and disinterest in actually governing the country. That anything was accomplished is nothing short of a miracle.

    But after the results of the 2012 election one might have expected the Republican fever to break and some level of sanity and good sense restored to the party of Lincoln.

    Think again.

    If anything, the first half of 2013 has seen the GOP continue its journey towards “peak awful”. Go back to the beginning of the year. As millions of Americans were celebrating New Year’s Eve, the Republicans were careening the country off the fiscal cliff because of their insistence that no rich person should ever pay a cent in higher taxes. The budgetary mania continued through the sequestration and refusal to compromise with President Obama even after he put the liberal sacred cow of Social Security on the table. Along the way Republicans foiled modest efforts at gun control, ginned up made-up scandals involving the IRS and the death of four Americans in Benghazi and couldn’t actually be bothered with the difficult task of proposing public policy legislation. And after three years of complaining incessantly that Senate Democrats haven’t passed a budget, key Republicans have spent the last 100 days obstructing the budget process.

    But in the past few weeks things have actually gone from terrible to unimaginable. There’s the GOP “Ebenezer Scrooge” Farm Bill, which would have cut food stamps by $20.5bn, causing nearly 2 million poor Americans to lose food assistance. As if that wasn’t bad enough, the Republican House also passed an amendment to the bill that would force food stamp recipients to work in return for benefits, but provided no actual funds for job training. In fact, it even barred states from spending more money on employment and training. So if you’re a poor person and you lose your job, you lose the government benefits that allow you to feed you family. This piece of monstrous legislative cruelty was supported by all but six House Republicans. Thankfully the larger bill failed, but Republican heartlessness has hardly been dimmed.


  • jds09

    This is the money quote…

    “The effort to repatriate Snowden is being led by Vice President Joseph Biden and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, as the situation is being treated as a law-enforcement issue.”

    Reminds me of Woody45’s Uncle with the belt. lol


  • creolechild

    CyTerra Corporation Agrees to Pay $1.9 Million to Resolve False Claims Act Allegations

    CyTerra Corporation has agreed to pay the federal government $1.9 million to resolve civil liability arising from its failure to provide
    the U. S. Department of the Army with accurate, complete and current cost or pricing data for its sales of mine detectors, the Justice Department announced today. CyTerra, headquartered in Waltham, Mass., manufactures equipment, including portable mine detectors, used by the U. S. military.[….]

    The civil settlement resolves a lawsuit pending in federal court in the District of Massachusetts under the qui tam, or whistleblower, provisions of the False Claims Act, which allow private citizens to bring civil actions on behalf of the U. S. and share in any recovery. The action was filed by Kevin Bartczak and Keith Aldrich, two former CyTerra executives. As part of today’s resolution, Bartczak and Aldrich will share $361,000 from the civil recovery.[….]



  • Miranda

    uh oh negros…….nothing in the instructions about eating ribs, playing bidwhist or jamming to Frankie Beverly & Maze while Unca Bobby Lee on the grill…..

    Tea Partiers Explain How to Properly Celebrate the 4th of July

    —By Stephanie Mencimer | Thu Jul. 4, 2013 3:00 AM PDT

    The modern Independence Day celebration typically involves things like parades, fireworks, and backyard barbecuing. For the Tea Party Patriots, though, the 4th is a much more solemn occasion, a time for reflecting on all the history that the rest of us tend to gloss over while wilting in the summer heat over the grill. The group has helpfully provided an “Independence Day Tool Kit” with detailed instructions on how to celebrate the holiday, tea party-style.

    According to the Tea Party Patriots, a proper 4th of July celebration should naturally kick off with the reading of the Declaration of Independence (or, if time is an issue, just the important parts). A prayer might also be in order, and the program outline helpfully advises that “smaller families might want to invite another family to join them.” The extra people are important because the tea partiers recommend that American families spend their day off acting out a play called Unite or Die, whose text on TPP’s website is accompanied by a pattern for making tri-corner hats out of construction paper.

    more here: http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/07/tea-partiers-explain-how-celebrate-4th-july

  • GreenLadyHere


    — – -☻Ms. TUBMAN in DUAL ROLES:– -:>) —
    — —— ☺ Harriet Tubman, the Underground Railroad; – -Ms. Tubman’s resume — Union Spy!

    – — – — ☺A FIRSTTubman became the first woman to lead an armed assault during the Civil War.—:>) —

    — — -☺TRULY —“In Da STRUGGLE”When the steamboats sounded their whistles, slaves throughout the area
    understood that it was being liberated. Tubman watched as slaves
    stampeded toward the boats. “I never saw such a sight,”

    THANK U Sepia.♥ —THIS is sooo INSPIRING! — –



    • TyrenM

      I I I…wanna eat with you GLH. You do it big !

      • GreenLadyHere

        —LOL — -Good MornTin’ TyrenM — –***BIG HUG** :>)—–

        –By all means. :>) — THIS is 4 the POU FAM♥- – ENJOY. :>)

        Annd —ENJOY your day. :>)

  • creolechild

    Tacoma, Wash., Medical Firm to Pay $14.5 Million to Settle Overbilling Allegations

    Sound Inpatient Physicians Inc. will pay $14.5 million to settle
    allegations that it overbilled Medicare and other federal health care
    programs, the Justice Department announced today. Sound Physicians is a Tacoma, Wash.-based provider of hospitalists and other physicians to hospitals and other medical facilities. It employs more than 700 hospitalists and post-acute physicians, who provide services at 70 hospitals and a growing network of post-acute facilities in 22 states. [….]

    Read more: http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2013/July/13-civ-758.html


  • creolechild

    If there ever was any doubt before, I think it’s safe to assume that the wheels have come completely off the wagon now…

    Catholic Cardinal calls openly gay ambassador nominee a ‘f*ggot’

    Pastor goes nuts after congregant falls asleep: I’m important! I’m somebody!

  • Miranda

    Tea Party Worries Colorado Town With Planned July 4 Gun March

    A tea party group’s vow to march with guns in a Fourth of July parade has caused panic in a small Colorado town.

    The Southern Colorado Patriots Club announced that its members would march with guns in the annual Independence Day parade in Westcliffe, Colo. to “make a statement that we still believe in our Constitution” to protest new gun control laws in the state, the Denver Postreported. A flier distributed by the group urged members to come to the parade with unarmed rifles.

    “All rifles welcome especially the evil black ones,” the flier read.

    The announcement prompted the Custer County Chamber of Commerce, the event’s sponsor, to cancel the parade as nervous citizens circulated a petition to stop the club. Donna Hood, president of the chamber, abstained from the vote to cancel the parade but told the Post that the matter has “polarized this community in a week.” The parade was ultimately saved when the Town of Westcliffe agreed to pick up the sponsorship tab.


  • Miranda

    oh nooooo..wasn’t France on Snowden’s list of preferred destinations? LOL

    French agency spies on phone calls, email, web use, paper says
    PARIS | Thu Jul 4, 2013 9:36am EDT

    (Reuters) – France’s external intelligence agency spies on the French public’s phone calls, emails and social media activity in France and abroad, the daily Le Monde said on Thursday.

    It said the DGSE intercepted signals from computers and telephones inFrance, and between France and other countries, although not the content of phone calls, to create a map of “who is talking to whom”. It said the activity was illegal.

    “All of our communications are spied on,” wrote Le Monde, which based its report on unnamed intelligence sources as well as remarks made publicly by intelligence officials.

    “Emails, text messages, telephone records, access to Facebook and Twitter are then stored for years,” it said.

    more here: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/04/us-france-security-idUSBRE9630FS20130704?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=992637

    • Which is why Hollande should have kept his indignation to himself.

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia – – – -UPDATE: — -“Dear MADIBA”♥ – —

    – —SAfrica: Mandela’s wife says he is seldom in pain– –

    — — –The wife of critically ill Nelson Mandela says the former South African president is sometimes uncomfortable but seldom in pain while being treated in a hospital.

    Graca Machel spoke about her husband’s condition on Thursday at a fundraising drive for a children’s hospital that will be named after the 94-year-old anti-apartheid leader.

    A Mandela family court affidavit obtained by the Mail and Guardian
    newspaper said Mandela is on life support in the form of a breathing



  • creolechild

    Interfaith Churches Convince Banks to Give $30 Million to Help Foreclosed Families

    An interfaith group in Virginia has shown what a grassroots group can do when working together for positive change — in this case, helping some of the 20,000 families who lost homes in the 2008 foreclosure crisis. VOICE (Virginians Organized For Interfaith Community Engagement) managed to get pledges of $30 million from Bank of America, General Electric and the Virginia Housing Development Authority to help such families in Manassas and Prince William County.

    Started in 2008, the coalition of 50 faith organizations announced this week that their housing pilot program is set to rehab 100 vacant and blighted townhouses and to build 1,500 units of affordable rental housing over a 15-year period.(WATCH their video below, or READ the story from the Washington Post)

    Read more: http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/inspired/religions/voice-gets-30m-to-help-foreclosed-va-families.html

    H/T Jeremy Borden

  • creolechild

    US retiring most chimpanzees from research

    Chimpanzee research may be on its last breath in the United States.
    The US National Institutes of Health said Wednesday it plans to “substantially reduce” the number of chimps used in biomedical research and will retire most of them to sanctuaries.[….]

    About 300 research chimps will join more than 150 of their brethren
    already retired in various animal sanctuaries. Fifty others will be kept on essentially as retainers — meaning they will only be used for studies that can be performed no other way. Animal rights groups applauded the move.[….] Much of the rest of the world has already ended such research, according to The Associated Press.

    Read more: http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/health/130626/us-retiring-most-chimpanzees-research

    H/T Sarah Wolfe

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia – – -From EGYPT: – — –

    — –Mansour Installed As Egypt’s Acting President – –

    — – –The chief of Egypt’s constitutional court, Adli Mansour, has been sworn in as acting president less than 24 hours after the country’s military removed Islamist President Muhammad Morsi.
    Mansour praised the army and the huge protests that led to Morsi’s removal.

    He added that Egyptians, who spent 30 years with strongman Hosni Mubarakin the presidency, should maintain their revolutionary ideals of 2011 and not “worship” one leader.

    ”The guarantee of the continuity of the spirit of the revolution
    carries the hope for us that the values of this revolution will be
    upheld, the first of which is to put an end to the idea of worshipping
    the leader and creating a half-divine entity out him and to end all
    kinds of impunity that the weak bestow on the rulers and presidents,” Mansour said.

    He said that Morsi’s Muslim Brotherhood was a segment of the Egyptian public and was welcome to help “build the nation.”
    THERE IS MORE. — –WATCHIN’ – — –

  • gn

    We’ve successfully made it to New Orleans! Looking forward to recruiting a multitude of eager Volunteers to Love & Protect Our Children!

  • creolechild

    Stunningly beautiful video makes San Francisco’s fog look like something out of a fairy tale

    [….] The video was made by photographer Simon Christen, who acknowledges that he had to work to make Karl look this good: The weather conditions have to be just right for the fog to glide over the hills and under the bridge. I developed a system for trying to guess when to make the drive out to shoot, which involved checking the weather forecast, satellite images and webcams multiple times a day. For about 2 years, if the weather looked promising, I would
    set my alarm to 5am, recheck the webcams, and then set off on the
    45-minute drive to the Marin Headlands.

    I spent many mornings hiking in the dark to only find that the fog
    was too high, too low, or already gone by the time I got there. Luckily, once in a while the conditions would be perfect and I was able to capture something really special. Adrift is a collection of my favorite shots from these excursions into the ridges of the Marin Headlands.[….]

    Read more: http://grist.org/list/stunningly-beautiful-video-makes-san-franciscos-fog-look-like-something-out-of-a-fairy-tale/

    H/T Simon Christen and Jess Zimmerman

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia —GR8 NEW$$$$$ :>) – –ANGER -2 -ACTION –:>)-

    Alabama State University Awarded $800,000 for Voting Rights Center– –

    — – –Alabama State University has moved one step closer to start construction on the third and final Selma to Montgomery Voting Rights Interpretive Center after the state of Alabama announced it is awarding the HBCU with an $800,000 grant, school officials said Tuesday.

    Last week, Dr. Janice Franklin, director of the school’s National
    Center for the Study of Civil Rights and African-American Culture,
    announced at a public hearing that the $800,000 grant will go toward a National Park Service-managed museum showcasing the history of the 1965 Voting Rights campaign. ASU officials are seeking a total of $3 million to have the Voting Rights Interpretive Center completed by March 2015, which will be the 50th anniversary month of the historic Selma to Montgomery March.

    Securing the grant “means that we’re much closer to making this thing happen,” said Dr. Howard Robinson, the ASU archivist. “We are very committed and excited about having this interpretive center open for the 50th anniversary of the Selma to Montgomery march.”
    – – — -Best wishes as WE WORK 2 —RESTORE the FULL TENETS of the —VOTING RIGHTS ACT!! :>) – –

  • gn

    POUers are on twitter breaking it down right now. I’ll just say this: in a time in which Trayvon’s been placed on trial for his own lynching and a key VRA provision was overturned, that there are people claiming that these weeks are a civil rights victory and milestone=expected, natural result of handing over our civil rights legacy to privileged people and ridiculously expecting to not get pushed to the side. Truly is that simple. Hope that this wakes up the black leadership and chattering class.

  • Miranda

    NewsBreaker ‏@NewsBreaker4m
    UPDATE: Italian Foreign Minister says cannot support whistleblower Edward Snowden’s request for asylum – @Reuters / @SkyNewsBreak

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia – —-LOOKIN’ FORWARD — > —:>) – –

    – —Essence Music Festival: The magic and the business behind this summer’s hottest ticket
    —— A week before the 2013 Essence Music Festival, the team at Essencewas already preparing for 2014 with brainstorming sessions and strategic planning. The team was booking talent, taking meetings with government officials in the event’s host city of New Orleans, and securing future partners and sponsors. – –
    – – – – -SNIP — –

    – —The Essence Music Festival, taking place from July 4-7, will deliver its 19th installment this year. Featuring headlining performances by artists including Beyoncé, Maxwell, New Edition, Charlie Wilson, Brandy,Jill Scott, LL Cool J and Keyshia Cole, guests will also be treated to a series of high-profile speakers, parties and other vibrant happenings.

    As the festival’s tagline goes, “There’s nothing like it!” — — — -Woo! Hoo! :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥ —-From MR. PRESIDENT:-♥ – —
    — – —Weekly Address: Celebrating Independence Day-:>)
    — — President Obama commemorates our nation’s Independence Day, and
    recognizes the generations of Americans— from farmers to teachers to
    entrepreneurs—who worked together to make the United States what it is
    today. The President also thanked the men and women of the military, who
    have given so much to defend the United States at home and abroad, and
    said that we are grateful for their service and sacrifice.


  • Alma98

    Good morning everyone and happy birthday to first daughter Malia.

    • GreenLadyHere

      – —GOOD SUNNY MORNTIN’ Alma98. ***BIG HUG** :>)
      –THIS 1 : —Soooo UNIQUE. :>) – – -Have a good/Blessed day –U/”Daughter Alma”/Family. :>)—

      • Alma98

        Morning GLH blessings to you and your family too, have a great day.

        • GreenLadyHere

          — -:>) – –Thank U♥ — –

  • gn

    h/t bwd:

    Obamacare has given young people a chance to pursue more flexible career options http://bit.ly/16QL35y

    • conlakappa

      I sad that 2 years ago after meeting 20somethings who said it made their post-college lives more open to possibility than needing a benefits-having job would have done.

  • BREAKING: France rejects #Snowden's asylum request – officials http://t.co/KG3GWIdZS1— RT (@RT_com) July 4, 2013

    • crazycanuck

      so where to next?

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia – –BETTER NEWS :>)–as we continue 2 mourn — —

    Arizona Fire Now 45% Contained
    – – – –The Arizona wildfire that killed 19 elite firefighters has been 45% contained, up from an official figure of 8% yesterday, as teams link fire lines, the Arizona Republic reports. “We’ve had a very productive day today,” an official said yesterday. Authorities said they hadn’t seen any signs of further deaths, though they plan to check door-to-door. The fire has burned 8,400 acres and damaged 129 buildings. Some 600 firefighters are battling the blaze, says the official.

    – — –CONTINUIN’ 2 PRAY 4 -VICTIMS/FAMILIES. –AMEN. – –]***HUGS @ Aquagranny :>)]

  • GreenLadyHere


    – — -“STAND STRONG” — –JUSTICE 4 TM. — –

  • gn

    Bringing in more of the excellent twitter convo:

    Black people would do well to honor Trayvon’s legacy by being as kind to Rachel Jeantel as he was.

  • gn
    • Miranda

      That was a great read. I’m now reading “The Warmth Of Other Suns” and the first 50 pages have me heartbroken.
      Indeed, what kind of free is this?

  • gn

    Russia shows growing impatience over Snowden’s airport stay. “He needs to choose a place to go.” http://mobilebeta.reuters.com/russia-shows-growing-impatience-over-snowdens

    • crazycanuck

      he is still there ? lol

    • Russia be like, “You ain’t gotta go home, but you gotz ta get the hell up outta here!”.

    • Kennymack1971

      Shorter Russia

  • GreenLadyHere

    -Sepia —FROM Nerdy Wonka: —

    – —Nerdy Wonka@NerdyWonka
    ‏On this day, the reality of American history should never be forgotten. Powerful piece by @GoldieTaylor. http://thegrio.com/2013/07/04/fourth-of-july-what-kind-of-freedom-is-this/

    — -Was comin’ 2 post. Soo here it is: —
    – – —Fourth of July: What kind of freedom is this?– –

    – – – – – — -EXCERPT: – —

    Today, East St. Louis is nearly 98 percent black, largely impoverished and mostly forgotten. It is no longer useful to measure how many students don’t graduate from high school. Many do not reach the 9th grade. The cycle of poverty begins and is perpetuated in the halls of a junior high school.

    Playing stickball in the lot that day, we could not predict that Shawn Clark—a Haynes grandson– would be beaten, shot and left to rot in a dumpster. Or that Kenny McCaskill would be murdered in a drug deal gone bad. Our house was not immune. My brother Christopher was shot, execution style. Multiple cousins have done and continue to do prison time. We are, it seems, a family of women.

    Every Independence Day I think of the other young black boys, who never had a real chance to become men. For them, there was no American Dream—at least not that they could see from their vantage point.
    ——THERE IS MORE —-

    — – – ☺-Chaka Khan leads celebs in Trayvon Martin tribute song — [There were many more]

    – – – ☺-Members of the Heat donned hooded sweatshirts – on the day he was killed, Martin’s hoodie aroused suspicion – and posted a tribute picture on Facebook and Twitter. “#WeAreTrayvonMartin #Hoodies #Sterotyped #WeWantJustice,” LeBron James wrote on his Twitter page.

    Read more: http://keepingscore.blogs.time.com/2012/03/24/miami-heat-pay-homage-to-trayvon-martin/#ixzz2Y63woZ7R

    – ——- RIHEP — — CONDOLENCES 2 ALL – – –

  • creolechild

    Damn! Rasmussen’s getting clowned from overseas too…

    Rasmussen’s Racism Survey Gets The Taiwanese Animation Treatment (VIDEO)

    [….] In their signature style, the folks at Next Media Animation (NMA) offered their own take on the survey. The send-up depicted a Rasmussen pollster in a Ku Klux Klan robe, accusing the firm of racism for excluding Asians from the survey.[….]

    Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/rasmussens-racism-survey-gets-taiwanese-animation-treatment-video

    H/T Tom Kludt

    • Alma98


  • creolechild

    Hmmm…someone’s “house” wasn’t in order. All I have to say…

    State spent more than $600k to attract Facebook fans

    [….] Released in May, the IG report found that the Bureau of International Information Programs spent $630,000 on two advertising campaigns to expand the numbers of fans for four of its Facebook pages–as well as the translated versions of those pages.[….] The IG recommended the bureau change its social media strategy to strive for better engagement rather than more fans. Psaki said the bureau has sharply reduced its budget for online advertising to $2,500, down from roughly $26,000 per month in 2011 and 2012.[….]

    Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/03/state-spent-more-than-600k-to-attract-facebook-fans/

    H/T Ashley Killough

  • creolechild

    Look at whose not talking, but getting all lawyered up and stuff…

    Washington lawyer Flood counsels McDonnell on probe

    He’s represented the administration of President George W. Bush,
    Vice President Dick Cheney, and President Bill Clinton during his
    impeachment proceedings. Now he’s one of the attorneys counseling Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, besieged by state and federal investigations into gifts he and his family have received while in office.[….]

    Also present was former state Attorney General Anthony F. Troy,
    appointed by Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli to represent the governor in legal matters related to a state inquiry into gifts and a related criminal case alleging embezzlement by the former chef at the Executive Mansion. The presence of Flood underscores the gravity of the governor’s legal challenges.[….]

    Read more: http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/latest-news/washington-lawyer-flood-counsels-mcdonnell-on-probe/article_bd183186-e3f0-11e2-aab5-001a4bcf6878.html

    H/T Jim Nolan

    • Miranda

      McDonnell going DOWN. I am simply impressed with how the media is letting pretty boy slide instead of giving him the treatment they would if this was Deval Patrick – which would be nonstop chattering and a media conviction already.

    • Town
  • Alexander2

    (I heard Anthony Gorgone clearly state that there was NONE of Zimmerman’s dna on Travon’s sweatshirt. But this is what the NYT is reporting. Do I need a hearing aid?)

    Wednesday afternoon, jurors also heard from Anthony Gorgone, a crime lab analyst with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, who testified that he found no traces of Mr. Zimmerman’s DNA in scrapings taken from Mr. Martin’s fingernails. He did find DNA of Mr. Zimmerman and Mr. Martin on the gray sweatshirt that Mr. Martin was wearing, as well as DNA from both on Mr. Zimmerman’s jacket.


    • gn

      Wow! NYT’s reporting about this case has been awful, full of “both sides” and fake balance, and that paragraph is misleading. No Zimmerman DNA was on Trayvon’s hoodie at all. There was *one* spot with Zimmerman’s DNA on the shirt which Trayvon had on *under* the hoodie. These results do not comport with Zimmerman’s claim of an extensive life or death struggle much less Trayvon sitting atop hm and repeatedly beating his head against the concrete. Trayvon’s DNA was also found on the cuff of Zimmerman’s jacket sleeve, suggesting that he had grabbed the child. The propensity of the media to try to sanitize the evidence of what Zimmerman did to Trayvon speaks volumes.

      • Alexander2

        So, the dna was found on the shirt under the sweatshirt/hoodie. That is not what the Times is saying. WOW!

        • gn

          Trayvon was wearing a sweatshirt under the hoodie, that’s where a spot w/ Zimmerman’s DNA was found—there was none of his DNA on the hoodie, which along with no DNA under Trayvon’s nails (and the ME’s testimony that Zimmerman’s “injures” were “minor” and “insignificant”) undercuts the entire defense theory of GZ being in reasonable fear of great harm. MO that paragraph is intentionally misleading.

          • Alexander2

            I expected bias from cable news. I shouldn’t be surprised about the NYT but this is so wrong.

        • Aquagranny911

          Believe this, that piece of trace was a small spot of Z’s blood on the very bottom right side hem of Trayvon’s INNER sweat shirt. Nothing on the outer sweatshirt at all.

          • gn

            Exactly. That’s what’s bugging me—you’d have to have listened closely to the actual testimony to catch that very significant distinction.

          • GreenLadyHere

            GN —**BIG fist bump*** – —

            Annnd — we betta believe that the –“mothers” —if the JURY R “listenin’ closely”. — – It has been reported that one woman is takin- -“copious notes.” –GOOD! — :>)

            These –BRIGHT LIGHTS” —R –sooo HOPEFUL!! :>) — –Thank U GN. :>)- –

          • Aquagranny911

            I said this the other day that Z’s injuries came when he slipped in the wet grass & banged his head on one of those utility covers. The nose injury was from the gun recoil.

            I’m almost thinking that they were in a standing on maybe even kneeling position facing each other when Z shot Trayvon.

            Eye witness accounts are notoriously unreliable. It was very dark, rainy. One witness actually reported hearing 3 gun shots. That Good person witness knows the Zimmerman’s & he embellished his account to back up Z.

            All the forensics tells a different story. One chilling thing for me was the ballistic expert’s report that Z, loaded the clip with it’s seven cartridge limit, racked the slide to put one in the chamber, then removed the clip & added another cartridge so that he actually had eight rounds. He was “locked & loaded” to kill someone, anyone.

            This was not about self defense or Neighborhood patrol but about hunting a trophy to show off his ‘cop skills.’

            Also who goes to Target with no debit, credit card, check book or money but packing a gun? His story stinks. I think he saw Trayvon walk past his house & decided to go hunting.

            All these little details add up to willful murder

          • gn

            IMO it was a lynching. And Trayvon was just that unlucky kid, struck by lightning, who just happened to have fallen under Zimmerman’s gaze, as GZ was out to do violence. Thought that 16 months ago, think that now. Because of Sanford PD’s failure to investigate the full extent and depravity of this crime, can’t prove Murder 1. But you and i are >>>>>here<<<<< about this. The media is atrocious. Same person who lied about having a second passport and hiding money during his bail hearing wouldn't lie to try to get away with a murder??? US national media is a joke.

          • Aquagranny911

            GN, what little I have read of the media raised my BP so I avoid it. I’m just watching the trial & making my own conclusions.

            If Sanford police were not a bunch of racists they would have done their job. Z would have been Charged with Murder one, plea bargained to Homicide two & would be in jail now. The Martins would have been spared from this circus & having to listen to the screams of their dying child, look at his blood stained clothing & have his innocence trashed.

            I believe there is going to be some big time Karma coming down on some of the folks involved in all this.

          • gn

            Some karma’s already been dished out AG, more’s coming, totally agree with you. And in the meanwhile, Trayvon, and what happened to him, and who he is, continues to teach valuable lessons to the black community. Capehart wrote today that Trayvon has had no effect on SYG laws. Yet who even knew who or what an ALEC is before this kid? Terrible crime, and up to us to do justice to Trayvon’s legacy.

          • conlakappa

            Is there pool reporting? I bet he is getting information from pool report or transcript and his eyes glazed over while reading it. I’m going to have to change the NYT motto to “All the news as we see fit to print.”

      • Here’s the reporter’s twitter: http://twitter.com/caraNYT

        • gn

          Thx, sent her a quick tweet asking for her to be more precise. Most ppl would read that paragraph and think Zimmerman’s DNA was all over Trayvon’s hoodie, which is incorrect.

      • Miranda

        “that paragraph is misleading.”


        no that paragraph is just a bold face lie. They don’t just write out the article and hit print. Several people read that paragraph AFTER looking at the transcript and STILL went with what they printed. Its willfully misleading…which is nothing but LYING.

    • GreenLadyHere

      — -Good Morntin’ ALEXANDER2 — –***BIG HUG*** :>)

      — -Woo! Hoo! — Here COMES –KARMA —BRANGIN’ the JUSTICE!!—

      — THIS ALSO: —DNA belonging to Mr. Zimmerman was also found on the grip of his gun(DNA from a second person was also found on the grip, Mr. Gorgone testified, but it was ruled out that it came from Mr. Martin). – – -HAH! – –

      — –ONLY U – –“GZ”!! — -NO aggressive tussle!!—-U! WERE the —AGGRESSOR!! —>PROFILED – -STALKED —MURDERED!! –an INNOCENT — -“MINDING HIS OWN BUSINESS” — BLACK young man!! — U! —


      Thank U ALEXANDER2 — -GR8 information. :>) – — Good 2 C U. :>)

      • Alexander2

        Hey GLH:

        The media is pissing me off with the trial coverage. I wish MSNBC would fire Lisa Bloom!

        Have a great holiday!

        • GreenLadyHere

          :>) – — -ALEXANDER2 — -***BIG fist bump** —

          YA MEAN —The RIGHT-LEANING MEDIA?? — – -Of course. -geesh!! – – –

          That’s “WHYCOME” — -WE R –“chin checkin'” ’em —WITH TRUTH!! :>) — –

          — – –Lisa – bloom – – – -LEANIN’ the same way —It is obvious. – –They must keep her 4 — COMIC RELIEF!! – -Her – -RACISM — could B — – laffable.!!—hummm.

          THANK U 4 your good wishes. :>) – —

          BACK –@-chu :>) – –

    • Aquagranny911

      Alexander I have been watching the trial. I watched every moment of the DNA expert testimony. IMO, DNA evidence points out Z lied about the whole encounter. Most telling was no blood or trace DNA under Trayvon’s nails. No way could the kiddo have beaten & bashed Z the way he describes with out traces of DNA being left on Trayvon.

      The cuffs & sleeves of Trayvon’s outer sweatshirt had none of Z’s DNA either. DNA evidence was damning to Z’s story. I also read that the jury took copious notes during this testimony so they are paying attention.

    • Town

      There should be Trayvon’s DNA on Trayvon’s sweatshirt, so that would be correct.

  • LOL!

    OBAMA GETTING TURNED UP FOR TOMORROW #TURNUP pic.twitter.com/nmnNLtwu3c— CARLEY (@nivllstagram) July 4, 2013

    • Miranda

      He just the coolest!

  • Occupy Oakland protesters awarded $1m over police violence during arrests

    Eoin Reynolds in San Francisco

    Wednesday 3 July 2013 14.03 EDT

    Victims of excessive police force at one of the most violent flashpoints of the Occupy protests have received a $1m compensation

    The US district court in San Francisco made the award to a group of 12 protesters who complained of brutality during in confrontations with police in Oakland, California, in 2011.

    The payouts come in the wake of criticism from independent experts who said the police department was under-resourced and ill-prepared to deal with the protests.

    The lawsuits detailed how police reacted to the
    protesters when they tried to reclaim a camp which had been cleared
    earlier that day. Suzi Spangenberg and Sukay Sow said they were injured by flashbang grenades thrown by officers. Spangenberg, a 52-year-old seminarian was awarded $500,000 in compensation, while Sow, who suffered chemical burns to her foot, received $210,000.

    MORE: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/03/occupy-oakland-protesters-1m-police

  • Admiral_Komack


  • gn

    “We ask ourselves, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, handsome, talented and fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be?” ― Nelson Mandela

  • Miranda

    Afternoon thread is up!