September 2, 2014

Thursday Open Thread: African-Americans and The Revolutionary War

Continuing with this week’s theme, I will continue to focus on African-Americans and their roles in Revolutionary Era. 

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Salem Poor (1747–1802) was an African-American slave who purchased his freedom, became a soldier, and rose to fame as a war hero during the American Revolutionary War. Poor was born in 1747 into slavery on a farm in Andover, Massachusetts owned by John Poor and his son John Poor Jr.  He bought his freedom on July 10, 1769 from John Poor Jr. for £27, a year’s salary for an average working man at the time.

In May 1775, Poor enlisted in the militia, serving under Captain Benjamin Ames in Colonel James Frye’s regiment, opposing the British troops occupying besieged Boston. He is best remembered today for his actions during the Battle of Bunker Hill on June 17, 1775, where he is credited with mortally wounding British Lieutenant Colonel James Abercrombie.

Poor’s valor and gallantry at the Battle of Bunker Hill prompted 14 officers, including Colonel William Prescott, to cite him for heroism and petition the General Court of Massachusetts with the following statement:

The Reward due to so great and Distinguished a Character. The Subscribers beg leave to Report to your Honorable. House (Which We do in justice to the Character of so Brave a man) that under Our Own observation, we declare that A Negro Man Called Salem Poor of Col. Fryes Regiment, Capt. Ames. Company in the late Battle of Charleston, behaved like an Experienced Officer, as Well as an Excellent Soldier, to Set forth Particulars of his Conduct would be Tedious, We Would Only beg leave to say in the Person of this Negro Centers a Brave & gallant Soldier.

On July 10, 1775, George Washington ended the recruitment of African Americans.  On November 12, he issued orders prohibiting all black men from serving in the Continental Army. (Despite the ban on recruitment, those who had already been serving for some time were allowed to stay until this point.) On hearing of this, Lord Dunmore, who at the time was Governor of Virginia, offered freedom to all slaves willing to serve with the British. Washington, sensing the disaster that would almost surely result, immediately changed his position, at once ordering all recruiters to enlist any black men who wanted to fight.

Poor immediately re-enlisted in the militia and fought with the Patriot forces until March 20, 1780, when he was apparently discharged. He is known to have retreated to the winter camp at Valley Forge and fought in the Battle of White Plains.

In August 1771, Poor married Nancy Parker, “a half breed Indian servant in the family of Capt. James Parker”, according to papers in the Charlotte Helen Abbot Collection of the Andover Historical Society; they had a son, Jonas, who was baptized on September 29, 1776. In 1780, he married his second wife, Mary Twing, a free African American. The couple moved to Providence; however, they were ordered to leave that city, presumably because they could not support themselves. In 1785, he placed an advertisement in the Boston Gazette to disown Mary’s debts and “forewarn all Persons from trusting MARY, the Wife of the Subscriber”. Poor then married Sarah Stevens, a white woman, in 1787, and in 1793 he spent several weeks in the Boston Almshouse. He was briefly jailed for “breach of peace” in 1799, married for the fourth and final time in 1801, and died in 1802.  Details of his life after the Revolutionary War were not known until research by genealogist David Lambert, a descendant of Poor’s former owners; an article about this research appeared in The Boston Globe in 2007.

Poor was honored with a stamp in the “Contributors to the Cause” series commemorating the United States Bicentennial in 1975.

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  • Miranda

    Good Morning

    So Russell Simmons did sign off on the video…by his own admission…and had to be told it was all kinds of offensive, and so he issued an…….apology? Doesn’t sound like one to me.

    I get it and respect it….the Harriet Tubman video has been removed
    http://globalgrind.com/2013/08/15/i-get-it-and-i-respect-it-the-harriet-tubman-video-has-been-removed/

    • rikyrah

      he doesn’t have any fucking sense. he’d sell his Mama for a buck

    • Joy

      Was checking out the #RealRussellApology hashtag and saw this gem:
      Friday Foster-ABWW ‏@eshowoman 7h
      #RealRussellApology I am sorry that as a man who doesn’t date or marry black women that I shamed my black women ancestors.

      Trying to remember if he ever caped for BeckyInDistress.

      • Tafr

        I remember him trying to tell us that Donald Trump is not a racist. He also stood up for Paltrow when she lost her damn mind using the N word.

        • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

          He also defended Ashley Judd who equated all rap music to “rap culture”.

          • Tafr

            Ahh that one is new to me but I am not one bit surprised. Remember this is the mofo selling a prepaid debit card, with outrageous fees, targeted towards the black community. I cannot stand his fake ass.

      • BoomerGal

        And I can’t see any black woman of substance and integrity who would want his wimpish lookin ass!

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      He thought this bs was “outwitting the slave master”???

      This mofo knew exactly what he was doing. It was a publicity stunt to gain attention for his new YouTube channel. He threw Black people under the bus for profit. He’s no different from Don Lemon.

    • gn

      Rank idiocy. And it’s also an example of how our history and legacy isn’t taken seriously and treated with the gravity it deserves. Really ridiculous.

    • qosine

      I remember him showing up at Occupy, trying to start
      his own thing. Whatever happened to that?

    • Kennymack1971

      When it comes to Russell it’s time for me to channel my inner Paulie from Goodfellas again “Now I gotta turn my back on you”…no words are going to clean this one up…not for me.

    • MsKitty

      I didn’t even bother to see it, just hearing about it made my blood boil. There is absolutely no rationale that anyone involved with this can use to justify desecrating the memory of an icon so important to us as a people. None.

    • Daltex82

      I have never been a fan of his and when I read about this bull yesterday it solidified my dislike of this egg-headed disrespectful opportunist.

    • rigoletta

      God I hate Russell Simmon’s nasty behind.
      What a disgusting person.

  • rikyrah

    Good Morning, Everyone :)

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      Mornin!

    • qosine

      Good Morning!

  • rikyrah

    Rand Paul, voting rights, and ‘objective evidence’
    By Steve Benen
    Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:00 AM EDT

    There can be no doubt that Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) wants to be seen as an inclusive, color-blind kind of politician. A few weeks ago, the senator insisted, “I don’t think there’s anyone in Congress who has a stronger belief in minority rights than I do.” Soon later, Paul added, “There is no greater defender, truly, of minority rights … than myself.”

    The boasts of an easily confused, crass egomaniac? Perhaps, but there’s more to it than that.

    Paul is absolutely convinced he’s the guy who’ll expand the Republican Party’s reach to racial and ethnic minorities. Sure, he’s on record opposing the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Sure, he’s long opposed the Voting Rights Act and the Fair Housing Act. Sure, he found a neo-Confederate who celebrates the birthday of Abraham Lincoln’s assassin, wrote a book with the guy, and then hired him to work on his Senate staff.

    But never mind all of that, Paul says. When it comes to “minority rights,” the Kentucky Republican expects you to believe he’s every bit as bold a champion as John Lewis.

    As is too often the case, the senator doesn’t understand what he doesn’t understand.

    Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) says there’s no “objective evidence” of racial discrimination in elections.

    “The interesting thing about voting patterns now is in this last election African-Americans voted at a higher percentage than whites in almost every one of the states that were under the special provisions of the federal government,” Paul said Wednesday according to WFPL’s Phillip Bailey. “So really, I don’t think there is objective evidence that we’re precluding African-Americans from voting any longer.”

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/08/15/20035676-rand-paul-voting-rights-and-objective-evidence?lite

  • rikyrah

    Obamacare popular

    Heritage’s new poll oversamples Republicans and asks misleading questions — but finds most want to keep Obamacare

    Heritage Action, the activist wing of the conservative Heritage Foundation, is out with a new poll today that’s getting some favorable coverage in the mainstream political press. According to Heritage, the survey shows that the GOP shouldn’t fear a government shutdown over Obamacare defunding. But there’s a catch.

    The background here is that a group of conservative senators, including Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and Marco Rubio, are trying to push Republican leaders to demand that Congress defund Obamacare in upcoming appropriations battles , even if it means forcing the government to shut down. Heritage supports the effort, so it took the poll to try to steel the spines of Republican leaders.
    “Americans — including 57 percent of independents in ten critical congressional districts — favor defunding Obamacare,” said Michael Needham, the CEO of Heritage Action. “House Republicans should be much more concerned with the fallout of failing to defund Obamacare than with the imaginary fallout of doing so.”

    What Needham fails to mention, however, is that even this push poll that dramatically oversamples Republicans (more on that in a minute) finds respondents are more likely to say that the Affordable Care Act should be kept than scrapped — and that a plurality would blame Republicans if the government were to shut down.

    http://www.salon.com/2013/08/14/right_wing_push_poll_accidentally_finds_obamacare_popular/

    • jds09

      Based on this article, dare I say it? That the current republican antics, in the long run, may result in the American people having a greater appreciation for their government? LOL

  • rikyrah

    Funeral director says Chicago gun violence destroying city

    The Leak and Sons funeral home has been on Chicago’s South Side for 80 years. Spencer Leak Sr. arranges 2,000 funerals a year. More and more, they are for shooting victims.

    Leak says he’s arranged about 45 gun-violence-related funerals so far this year.

    That’s about the number of murders last year in Seattle and Tampa, combined.

    “A significant portion of my day is spent trying to counsel with mothers who have lost sons through gun violence,” Leak says. “I saw three mothers over the weekend. I’m waiting to see a mother today, possibly another.”

    “My heart goes out to her, because I know what’s happening to her … I just can’t turn her down or away,” he says.

    Leak says the hardest part of his job is “the age of the young people.”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57598592/funeral-director-says-chicago-gun-violence-destroying-city/

  • rikyrah

    Jobless claims improve, reach lowest point in nearly 6 years
    By Steve Benen
    Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:37 AM EDT

    It’s been quite a long time since initial unemployment claims reached a level this low. How long? Nearly six years.

    Signaling a slower pace of layoffs, the number of people who applied for new jobless benefits fell 15,000 to 320,000 in the week that ended Aug. 10, hitting the lowest level of initial claims since October 2007, according to government data released Thursday. Economists surveyed by MarketWatch had expected a claims level of 333,000, matching an original estimate for the prior week. On Thursday, the government slightly revised the initial claims level to 335,000 for the week that ended Aug. 3. The average of new claims over the past month, a more reliable gauge than the volatile weekly number, fell 4,000 to 332,000, also reaching the lowest level since the weeks leading up to the start of the Great Recession.

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/08/15/20036198-jobless-claims-improve-reach-lowest-point-in-nearly-6-years?lite

  • rikyrah

    and she didn’t know this before she appointed him?

    G-T-F-O-H

    ……………….

    Preckwinkle asks her Metra Board appointee to step down over residency

    BY MITCH DUDEK Staff Reporter August 14, 2013 7:30PM

    Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle asked a Metra Board member to step down Wednesday after learning his current address did not meet residency requirements.

    Stanley Rakestraw lives in Chicago. His position requires him to live in suburban Cook County

    http://www.suntimes.com/21938175-761/preckwinkle-asks-her-metra-board-appointee-to-step-down-over-residency.html

  • rikyrah

    Jesse Jackson Jr. and wife Sandi: From power couple to prison inmates

    BY NATASHA KORECKI AND LYNN SWEET Staff Reporters August 14, 2013 8:34AM

    They were congressman and alderman, candidate and campaign chief.

    They are also husband and wife, father and mother.

    And on Wednesday, in an extraordinary sentencing hearing, Jesse Jackson Jr. and Sandi Jackson added another layer of complexity to their relationship: Both will be prison inmates.

    Former U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. was sentenced to 2 1/2 years behind bars for stealing $750,0000 from his campaign fund while former Ald. Sandi Jackson (7th) is to serve one year for filing false tax returns.

    Sandi Jackson, 49, appeared stunned by the imposition of a prison term, her face frozen and drained of color after the judge ordered a 12-month sentence that offers no ability to earn time off for good behavior.

    The former alderman later retreated to her defense chair and dropped her head. Sandi Jackson’s lawyers had vigorously argued for probation.

    http://www.suntimes.com/21924478-761/jesse-jackson-jr-and-wife-sandi-from-power-couple-to-prison-inmates.html

    • conlakappa

      It didn’t work for that Enron wife, it didn’t work for her. Trying to ply sympathy using an old-fashioned argument isn’t a good look for someone who was all about her power. She stayed with this man even once he publicly cuckolded her.

  • rikyrah

    Mary Mitchell: Jackson and his wife got what they deserved

    By MARY MITCHELL

    Last Modified: Aug 15, 2013 02:18AM

    In the end, former Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr. and his wife, Sandi Jackson, got what they deserved.

    The prison sentences handed down by U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson — 30 months for him and 12 months for her — was a humiliating comeuppance for a couple who were often treated like royalty.

    For weeks, Jackson foes have speculated that the court would go light on the couple because of their political pedigree.

    But Judge Jackson (no relation) imposed a sentence that fits the crime.

    Jesse Jackson Jr. will have to go behind the wall for 2½ years. When he gets out, his wife will serve 12 months.

    Unlike most of the Illinois politicians who have been swept into jail on corruption charges, Jackson’s financial scheme directly involved his wife.

    Jackson pleaded guilty to stealing $750,000 from his campaign fund while his wife admitted to filing false tax returns by under-reporting the couple’s income.

    Besides paying for celebrity memorabilia, a Rolex watch and elk heads, some of that pilfered money went for fur coats, salons and spa treatments.

    Even though Jackson had pleaded that he alone be held accountable for the theft, the judge saw otherwise.

    “You and Sandra used campaign money to support a way of life you could not afford,” she said, chastising the couple.

    But it was Sandi Jackson’s use of the couple’s 13- and 9-year-old children to make the case that she should get probation that was repugnant.

    “My heart breaks every day with the pain this has caused my babies,” she told the judge, weeping.

    “I ask to be a parent, provider and support system that my babies will require in the difficult months ahead.”

    “It is not the court that put your children in this position,” Judge Jackson said before handing down a sentence that Mrs. Jackson spends one full year behind bars.

    “It is not the government that put your children in this position. These children have two parents,” the judge added.

    Had Sandi Jackson been sentenced to 12 months and a day, she could have been out of prison in 10 months. The judge’s sentence of exactly 12 months signaled that she wasn’t moved by the former alderman’s pleas.

    Actually, the judge cut the couple a lot of slack by allowing Sandi Jackson to remain free until her husband completes his prison time.

    http://www.suntimes.com/21937742-761/mary-mitchell-jackson-and-his-wife-got-what-they-deserved.html?print=true

    • TyrenM

      Alderwoman Sandi crying on the children now…chick please.

  • Joy

    Good morning, POU.

  • rikyrah

    Sweet – August 14, 2013 4:45 pm
    Four takeaways from the Jesse and Sandi Jackson sentencings

    WASHINGTON–Takeways in the wake of the sentencing of Jesse Jackson Jr. and his wife Sandi on Wednesday….

    MENTAL HEALTH, NOT SO MITIGATING

    Mental health issues melted away as a mitigating factor in reducing the sentence for former Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., who is suffering from bipolar disorder and depression.

    Last April 26, federal prosecutors told U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson (no relation) in open court that if Jackson planned to raise his bipolar disorder as a mitigating factor when is comes to sentencing-—which defense lawyers by then had signaled they were going to do–the prosecutors would want to have Jackson checked out by government doctors.

    It turned out that Jackson’s defense team never presented much detailed information about his mental illness beyond short letters from his doctors to the judge in the months before the Wednesday sentencing.

    In a June filing pleading for a shorter sentence, Jackson’s lawyers said it was “unlikely” he would be able to relate to a prison psychiatrist, though no specifics were provided.

    So what happened? Either there was not enough there there–or the defense did not want to risk a hearing pitting defense doctors against government experts—or Jackson wanted to keep his health issues private and did not want all the details out in court.

    The result? The judge said she was at a loss to consider how, for example, his bipolar diagnosis led to an episode of binge spending at Best Buy.

    Prosecutor Matt Graves told the judge it was up to the defense team to make the mental illness argument and there was not even agreement between Jackson’s doctors as to what, exactly, he was suffering from.

    The judge–right before she sentenced Jackson– said she was not “given enough information” to make his mental illness a substantial factor for her to consider.

    “The mitigating circumstances do not mitigate,” she said.

    http://voices.suntimes.com/early-and-often/sweet/four-takeaways-from-the-jesse-and-sandi-jackson-sentencings/

  • Miranda

    Nida Khan ‏@NidaKhanNY41s
    Just In: POTUS will deliver a statement on #Egypt at 10:15

  • rikyrah

    The Wrong Lesson From Detroit’s Bankruptcy

    By JOSEPH E. STIGLITZ

    When I was growing up in Gary, Ind., nearly a quarter of American workers were employed in the manufacturing sector. There were plenty of jobs at the time that paid well enough for a single breadwinner, working one job, to fulfill the American dream for his family of four. He could earn a living on the sweat of his brow, afford to send his children to college and even see them rise to the professional class.

    Cities like Detroit and Gary thrived on that industry, not just in terms of the wealth that it produced but also in terms of strong communities, healthy tax bases and good infrastructure. From the stable foundation of Gary’s excellent public schools, influenced by the ideas of the progressive reformer John Dewey, I went on to Amherst College and then to M.I.T. for graduate school.

    Today, fewer than 8 percent of American workers are employed in manufacturing, and many Rust Belt cities are skeletons. The distressing facts about Detroit are by now almost a cliché: 40 percent of streetlights were not working this spring, tens of thousands of buildings are abandoned, schools have closed and the population declined 25 percent in the last decade alone. The violent crime rate last year was the highest of any big city. In 1950, when Detroit’s population was 1.85 million, there were 296,000 manufacturing jobs in the city; as of 2011, with a population of just over 700,000, there were fewer than 27,000.

    So much is packed into the dramatic event of Detroit’s fall — the largest municipal bankruptcy in American history — that it’s worth taking a pause to see what it says about our changing economy and society, and what it portends for our future.

    Failures of national and local policy are by now well known: underinvestment in infrastructure and public services, geographic isolation that has marginalized poor and African-American communities in the Rust Belt, intergenerational poverty that has stymied equality of opportunity and the privileging of moneyed interests (like those of corporate executives and financial services companies) over those of workers.

    At one level, one might shrug: companies die every day; new ones are born. That is part of the dynamics of capitalism. So, too, for cities. Maybe Detroit and cities like it are just in the wrong location for the goods and services that 21st-century America demands.

    But such a diagnosis would be wrong, and it’s extremely important to recognize that Detroit’s demise is not simply an inevitable outcome of the market.

    For one, the description is incomplete: Detroit’s most serious problems are confined to the city limits. Elsewhere in the metropolitan area, there is ample economic activity. In suburbs like Bloomfield Hills, Mich., the median household income is more than $125,000. A 45-minute drive from Detroit is Ann Arbor, home of the University of Michigan, one of the world’s pre-eminent hubs of research and knowledge production.

    http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/11/the-wrong-lesson-from-detroits-bankruptcy/?_r=1

  • rikyrah

    The Big Savings Obamacare Critics Miss

    BY JONATHAN COHN

    Obamacare critics keep insisting that Obamacare is a bad deal for most people buying insurance on their own. And a big reason is that they don’t think much of the subsidies.

    I know. You’re getting tired of hearing about the subsidies. Bear with me, because today we have some new and important information, thanks to a new study from the Kaiser Family Foundation.

    To review: Obamacare provides offers tax credits to offset the cost of insurance. If your income is less than four times the poverty line, and if you’re buying through one of the new insurance exchanges, then the tax credit will operate like a discount. The less money you have, the bigger the discount. Nowadays, most Obamacare critics acknowledge that the subsidies exist. But they tend to dismiss them as trivial. “Some low-income people will get subsidies,” Rich Lowry of the National Review wrote on Monday. “But that doesn’t change the essential facts.”

    Actually, it does change the essential facts—by quite a lot. The study, by Larry Levitt, Gary Claxton and Anthony Damico, shows it.

    http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114302/kaiser-study-obamacare-tax-credits-worth-thousands-lots-people

  • Miranda

    Education Department makes changes to PLUS loans
    By Shaquille Brewster, Associated Press | Associated Press – 12 hrs ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration, under pressure from black college presidents and lawmakers, has made changes to the PLUS loan program that may help thousands of families qualify for the college financial aid.

    The Education Department says families that have recent but small-scale debt may now become eligible for PLUS loans through appeals. The change in the program was announced in a letter dated Tuesday to Rep. Marcia Fudge, D-Ohio, chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus. A copy of the letter was obtained Wednesday by The Associated Press.

    Black lawmakers have been pressuring the administration, saying large numbers of previously eligible applicants have been denied aid under tighter credit rules. Parents and graduate students who use PLUS loans have no borrowing limit, but they face some of the highest interest rates in the federal student loan system.

    more here: http://news.yahoo.com/education-department-makes-changes-plus-002108914.html

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      I think the only problem was that the students and their families received notice at the last minute. Other than that, I think the Dept. of Ed should’ve stuck to their guns. These Parent Plus Loans are a financial disaster waiting to happen. They’re the equivalent of subprime mortgage loans.

      • Miranda

        “Parents and graduate students who use PLUS loans have no borrowing limit, but they face some of the highest interest rates in the federal student loan system.”

        ————————–
        A HUGE financial disaster waiting to happen.

      • Tunisia

        When I was in college, I didn’t need my parent to get a loan. The rules have really changed. I just had to prove that I was taking care of myself and I could apply for a loan on my own. We were poor. I always thought it was unfair to ask my mom to take out a loan for me. She still had other children in the house that needed to be taken care of. My daughter will be 22 this year and she can’t apply for financial aid on her own. She has to use our income even though she has a job & lives on her own.

        • conlakappa

          Me either. I signed a promissory note when I was 17, which shouldn’t have been legal but it was clear that it was my debt.

          • Tunisia

            I did too. I also moved off campus, got a job & an apartment. If I had come from a back ground with means, I may have been fine with my moms contribution, but imo once she got me through HS everything else was on me. I agree that it was my debt, hell I am still paying student loans but I try not complain b/c I got my degree and no one can take that away from me.

          • conlakappa

            The happiest day is when you make that last payment! There’s no fanfare and I really did want them to send me a bouquet of balloons or something.

          • Miranda

            I went to a Student Loan Pay-off party last year. My friend was doing cartwheels on his front lawn. LOL

          • qosine

            I love it!!

          • conlakappa

            Ha! Love the imagery. I was able to pay mine off a few months early due to the payout from my mother-in law’s pension a few months after her death so it was a little more sober an occasion!

      • qosine

        The “no borrowing limit” really disturbs me.
        So much goes into deciding what college or
        university is best for a student, not all the
        bad actors waiting to cash in.

        • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

          Me too. People have had to use their retirement savings to pay off these loans.

    • jziglar

      Why is it that the some of the CBC are always trying to push black people into greater debt ? Greater student loan debt, opposing regulations for private online colleges, support for pay day lenders, and sub prime loans for homes.

      Many of them need to leave office.

      • Joy

        As someone who’s still paying off student loans years after college, I thought the credit policy was a good one. I’ve been advising my children to use every available resource to pay for college except student loans.

      • conlakappa

        Looking for employment hookups if they ever do leave office? Those creditors serve the sweetest mini-crab cakes?

    • gn

      I’m glad about this. I’m kind of a minority of one on this issue, but decreasing the number of black college grads just isn’t a good idea, and those HBCUs were reporting that they were having to send significant numbers of kids home.

      • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

        I think PLUS loans are like slapping a band aid on a gunshot wound. If the goal is to increase Black college grads, then we need to look into making tuition more affordable, increasing grants and making low interest rate loans available. Also, HBCUs should be investigated to find out why they’re having so much financial trouble. And correct me if I’m wrong, but HBCUs get federal money depending on their student enrollment. Because enrollment fell, so did the fed money.

        Something stinks.

  • Miranda

    The sad part is he really believes this and he’s not alone.

    Congressman Doesn’t Believe White Collar Crime On Wall Street Exists – No Gun
    BY ALAN PYKE AND SCOTT KEYES ON AUGUST 15, 2013

    There’s no such thing as financial crime, according to Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA).

    At a town hall meeting in El Dorado Hills, California on Tuesday, a constituent asked McClintock for his “stance on Wall Street criminal practices.” The congressman responded, “Well first of all, for a criminal practice there has to be a gun. It’s pretty simple.”

    After detailing his opposition to reforms that would curb bank risk-taking and simplify the financial system, McClintock added that bad financial decisions are the responsibility of the individual who makes them and that’s “the price we pay for the freedom to make all of the good decisions in our lives.”

    more here: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/08/15/2471911/congressman-doesnt-believe-white-collar-crime-exists/

    • jds09

      This is a classic example of why Californians have wisely put republicans on the political margins. Dumbass.

      • conlakappa

        True. They went from rock-ribbed to hippy-dippy in relatively short order. See too Colorado and the dawning in New Mexico.

  • GreenLadyHere

    - -MEDIA ALERT: – — -MR. PRESIDENT WILL SPEAK ON EGYPT –WITHIN THE HOUR. – -

  • jds09

    Since I’ve become a part of the POU family and have learned so much more about our history (big thank you to POU moderators) I know Hollywood screenwriters are full of shit. It doesn’t take an additional level of creativity to include us historical dramas just solid research skills. And they could hire someone for that. Sheesh.

    • qosine

      The series this week is a perfect example.

    • GreenLadyHere

      Good MornTin’ jds09. ***BIG HUG*** :>) –

      —***BIG fist bump***** — -The TAKE-AWAYS from these SERIES –ALWAYS contributes 2 the –TRUTH of OUR involvement in HISTORY!—– -Annnd OF COURSE I SHARE it in school. —Teachers wait for this information – –:>) –
      Good 2 C U jds09. :>)

      • jds09

        Morning GLH! Have a blessed day.

        • GreenLadyHere

          Jds09 – — -***smilin’ @-chu —with THANKS** :>)

    • rikyrah

      there are Black screenwriters…how come they won’t take our stories and make screenplays from it?

      • goldenstar

        $$$. Gotta find the funding to produce and distribute.

  • rikyrah

    ‘The king of golf and vacations’
    By Steve Benen
    Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:18 AM EDT.

    Maybe there’s something about presidential vacations that many folks find irksome on a reflexive level. Americans may think that presidents shouldn’t take off when there’s so much work to be done.

    But RNC Chairman Reince Priebus is taking these attitudes to a very silly level.

    Obama is vacationing in Martha’s Vineyard as the rival party meets in the state. Asked if he was OK with the president taking a holiday amid several high-profile problems, Priebus said he’s “not going to get into that” — before then getting into it.

    “I think he has a lot of work to do, he’s the king of golf and vacations and I guess it’s par for the course,” he said. “I don’t think he cares that much.”

    Look, I realize RNC chairs are going to take cheap shots at Democratic presidents, even when it doesn’t make sense. But on a story like this, Priebus’ first instinct — he wasn’t “going to get into that” — was the one he should have listened to.

    First, President Obama is taking an eight-day break because, well, humans in stressful jobs occasionally need to take a breather. But for Republicans to make hay out of this is absurd — Obama has taken 87 days off since his first inauguration, and at the comparable point in George W. Bush’s presidency, Obama’s Republican predecessor had taken 399 days off. Remember this chart?

    http://ametia.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/vacation-days-presidents.jpg

    For every day off Obama has taken, Bush took 4.5 days off.

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/08/15/20036540-the-king-of-golf-and-vacations?lite

    • conlakappa

      And for any R member of Congress who is on his/her 4-week break to say a word about this, a cussing-out where he/she is standing is due. Mind you, after they return from that break, they’ll be out again for a Labor Day break.

      • goldenstar

        THIS!

      • qosine

        Yeah, how about making 4 week vacations mandatory
        for EVERYONE! I mean it.

        • conlakappa

          Sounds good! They do it in other countries. The U.S. has the least days-off of any of its industrial peers. Even in Japan, which used to be represented as so intense and hard driven, has more days off. In a lot of European countries, they will force you to take off if you haven’t demonstrated the good sense to do it on your own. “qosine, that’s it: see you in mid-September!”

  • MsKitty

    Today’s entry is movie-worthy, just for the wives alone. I wonder what Mary did to be put on blast like that.

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      I wonder if he caught her creepin’?

      • Miranda

        Notice how it didn’t say any wives died before he was on to the next one. I think Papa was a rolling stone.

        • conlakappa

          Marriage was so much more of an amorphous circumstance back then. You probably had to march around a sapling declaring “divorce thee” or some such.

          • goldenstar

            For real. I think it’s interesting that my great-grandfather, took a spin from IL out to OK for several years to live on an Indian land/reservation. My great-grandmother minded the 7 kids at home.

  • GreenLadyHere

    - -GOOD THURSDAY MORNTIN’ PBOMB♥/POU FAM♥. :>) ****BIG HUG****. —MORE NEW INFORMATION! :>) “POOR” – -Was “RICH” –in BRAVERY And In HIS SERVICE in the REVOLUTION! Woo! Hoo! :>) – —

    —THANK U 4 THIS SERIES PBOMB♥ —-NOW I THINK BACK on HISTORY WITH SUCH PRIDE. :>) —

    – —☻The “RICHNESS” of Mr. SALEM POOR

    – - – - – -☺during the Battle of Bunker Hill on June 17, 1775, where he is credited with mortally wounding British Lieutenant Colonel James Abercrombie. [NOT in the History Books.]

    ——– – ☺Sadly had his personal issues: -in 1799, married for the fourth and final time

    — —– ☺HONORED: — – Poor was honored with a stamp in the “Contributors to the Cause” series commemorating the United States Bicentennial in 1975. —[I've used these. Woo! Hoo!]

    —- -☻ENJOY YOUR — -TREAT. :>) – — B BLESSED 2-DAY♥

    - —WATCHIN; —-MR. PRESIDENT – -on EGYPT. . . .

  • qosine

    President Obama’s North Star.

    “The Egyptian people deserve better,” says Pres. Obama.

    “America cannot determine the future of Egypt. That’s up to the
    Egyptian people.”

  • itgurl_29

    Seriously, that deplorable Harriet Tubman video should end Russel’s career. But I already see people saying to leave Russell alone because he’s a wealthy black man and we need him. SMH. I swear, some of us are too in awe of money and too damn forgiving.

    • Miranda

      What upsets me most is how we were just pointing out how white feminists are with regards to women of color and now here we have one of the most revered black women in our history being reduced to a bed wench by other black people.

    • BoomerGal

      WHY? Why do I need Russell Simmons? What has he ever done for me or black people but talk shit and sell debit cards??

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥ – —More POSITIVITY on the ACA – - -:>) –

    – —- Obama group’s new ad touts healthcare law insurance rebates – - -

    – — –The political advocacy group spun off from President Obama’s reelection campaign on Thursday unveiled a new ad touting the benefits of ObamaCare, their third national ad as the administration readies to rollout their healthcare reforms.

    The new ad from Organizing for Action (OFA), titled “Every Day” features a North Carolina family discussing the insurance rebate they received under the healthcare law. The parents Rebecca and Russell worried about how to pay for their son’smedical care in the face of rising premiums.
    THERE IS MORE — -Woo! Hoo! – - -

    – –Gooo – - –ACA! —THANK U — MR. PRESIDENT!♥

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB: – - -FROM Ms. HARRIET TUBMAN — 2 – –Russel Simmons:

    —– ☺I freed a thousand slaves I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.
    Harriet Tubman

    – — -☺Never wound a snake; kill it.
    Harriet Tubman

    – — ☺I never ran my train off the track, and I never lost a passenger.
    Harriet Tubman
    – -[UNTIL -- NOW!] — -

  • qosine

    Look at the language promoting Simmons. Ugh.
    ..
    Russell Simmons, AwesomenessTV Launch YouTube Urban Music, Comedy Channel

    “Among video series premiering this week on the ad-supported All Def Digital channel — or ADD for short, a play on “attention deficit disorder” — is the provocatively outré “Harriet Tubman Sex Tape,” the first in a series of history-themed comedy sketches: . . . ”

    http://variety.com/2013/digital/news/russell-simmons-awesomeness-tv-launch-youtube-urban-music-comedy-channel-1200578032/

    • goldenstar

      He needs an intervention. Maybe Oprah, Jay-Z, and Shaquille.

      • BoomerGal

        Or even Iyanla.

        • goldenstar

          Best solution ever! He should be on Iyanla Fix My Life.

    • rigoletta

      I’m sure the white people Russell is really hoping to snag will love his videos denigrating black heroes.
      There are things I have scraped off the bottom of my sneakers that are worth more than Russell Simmons.

      • conlakappa

        Yuck, the likes of Lena Dunham, who skeeves me on principle, would be on this.

  • itgurl_29

    The same people who were calling Russel Simmons a thug and a negro with too much money for attacking their beloved nigra, Don Lemon, are now defending Russel against all us “racist blacks” who can’t take a joke. SMH. They love what he did to Harriet Tubman.

    • jds09

      The really funny part is that they wouldn’t say that shit to Harriet’s face.

      • rigoletta

        Harriet Tubman would make those idiots crap their pants.

    • rigoletta

      Showbiz sure is easy when you have no scruples.

    • gn

      Case closed.

    • BoomerGal

      Another sell-out.

  • qosine

    Maybe time for NFTG series, starting or ending with Harriet Tubman?

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥ – –Was this posted? — —He said –WHA’!?? _–

    Assistant U.S. attorney’s Facebook posts probed- – -
    – —The U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Texas Malcolm Bales released a statement Wednesday morning regarding derogatory comments about minorities and President Obama posted on Facebook by a Beaumont-based assistant U.S. attorney.

    “This office neither supports nor condones the views expressed on Facebook by Mr. Craft. He was not speaking on behalf of the US Attorney’s Office,” said spokeswoman Davilyn Walston in a statement.

    Previous reporting:

    The U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Texas said he will “look
    into” derogatory comments about minorities and President Obama posted onFacebook by a Beaumont-based assistant U.S. attorney.

    John Craft, an attorney in the criminal division, posted comments on a private Facebook page in response to a status update backing Stand Your Ground laws. He made reference to Trayvon Martin, a black 17-year-old killed by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman, who was acquitted in a July trial.

    Craftwrote: “How are you fixed for Skittles and Arizona watermelon fruitcocktail (and maybe a bottle of Robitussin, too) in your neighborhood? I am fresh out of “purple drank.” So, I may come by for a visit. In a rainstorm. In the middle of the night. In a hoodie. Don’t get upset or anything if you see me looking in your window…kay?” —-ENUFF!

    —THIS —DISGUSTING – - -RACIST!!! – —Must B some action that can B taken –AGAINST HIM!! — -geesh!!

    • rigoletta

      And people think that blacks can get fair treatment in a system that allows scum like this to work there.
      This is the time Craft got caught you don’t harbor those sorts of views and have them come out suddenly.
      Thank god he was stupid enough to think that he could post something “private” on the internet.

      • GreenLadyHere

        Good MornTin’ rigoletta. :>) — ***BIG HUG** :>)

        – –**fist bump** OF COURSE–he’s an “ole skool RACIST”!! —WE KNOW!!- – –

        THIS: — -Thank god he was stupid enough to think that he could post something “private” on the internet.
        –”What’s done in the dark –will surely come 2 light”.–
        NOW WE can go afta him!!! – - -

        — “Da STRUGGLE” —continues. .

        Good 2 C U rigoletta. :>)

      • jds09

        He should get fired based upon stupidity alone. Facebook page? Really in 2013? lol

      • Daltex82

        I would like to see him fired, but a long (I’m talking several months) suspension without pay would go a long way in making these folks think twice about what they say on social media.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Newark PD becomes first in country to release monthly stop-and-frisk data

    By James Queally/The Star-Ledger
    on August 15, 2013 at 10:38 AM, updated August 15, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    NEWARK — The Newark Police Department has released the race, gender and age of every person they stopped and frisked in the past month under what advocates have called one the “most comprehensive” and transparent open data policies in the country,.

    The data, posted on the department’s website, also discloses specific data about use-of-force incidents in the month of July.

    Police Director Samuel DeMaio announced the policy last month, to a
    wave of support from the state ACLU and local officials, and the release
    of the data comes on the heels of a court decision earlier this week
    that served as a stinging rebuke to the NYPD’s stop-and-frisk program.

    …Despite the ACLU’s praise, some of the promises DeMaio made regarding the policy last month were not delivered. The data set does not offer the reason for each stop and does not discern between incidents where a simple stop occurred and incidents when a search took place.

    MORE: http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2013/08/newark_pd_becomes_first_in_country_to_release_monthly_stop-and-frisk_data.html#incart_flyout_news

  • GreenLadyHere

    MEDIA ALERT: – - -MR. PRESIDENT on NOW –LIVE.

  • GreenLadyHere

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    — -☺@Dreamdefenders
    The Women of Dream Defenders speak:
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    Woke up to the sound of Martin Luther King’s voice echoing off the marble surfaces of the Florida Capitol. Day 31 @Dreamdefenders
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  • Alma98

    Good morning POU

    • GreenLadyHere

      Good Thursday MornTin’. Alma98. –***BIG HUG*** :>) –Woo! Hoo!
      —”SUN annnd SURF” – - -GR8 PIC! – —Thank U 4 the DAILY -JOY —2 BRIGHTEN our day. :>) – - -
      — ***HUGS 2 -”Daughter”Alma annnd all –with PRAYERS. :>) — – B BLESSED 2-day Alma. :>)

      • Alma98

        Morning GLH (((HUGS))) to you! Have a good one!

        • GreenLadyHere

          Alma – –***smilin’ @-chu*** :>)Thank U. :>)

    • rikyrah

      Good Morning, Alma.
      Beautiful day.
      NO money for Com Ed today..LOL

      • Alma98

        Good morning rikyrah:). Beautiful day here too no money for WE Energies. lol

      • TyrenM

        NO money for Exel Energy!

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥ – — -TWEETIN’ –TRUTH – -From Mr. KB: :>)- -

    —☺Keith Boykin
    ‏@keithboykin
    Okay. I finally saw Russell
    Simmons’s “Harriet Tubman Sex Tape” video. It was just as tasteless as the Twitter critics said it was. Sad.
    – - – -***BIG fist bump**** – -:>)

    • qosine

      “Tasteless”! Keith Boykin’s got the right word. I’d like to
      see that word come back into vogue — #tasteless.
      Thanks as always, GreenLady for KB’s tweets:)

      • GreenLadyHere

        Good MornTin’ qosine. :>) ***BIG HUG*** :>) —

        – —***CO-SIGN*** :>) – –“tasteless” – — an EMPTY feeling’ –YES!! —good word :>) –

        Good 2 C U qosine. :>) Havin’ a good day. :>)

    • Alma98

      I have never liked Russell Simmons he’s only black when it’s convenient and he can make a dollar. He would never do this to a white woman hero like Susan B. Anthony.

      • GreenLadyHere

        Alma98 —-***Big fist bump*** – - -TRUTH!! –:>)

        • Alma98

          ***fist bump***

      • conlakappa

        Maybe Rev. Run should have a word or two with him…

        • Alma98

          I hope he will.

      • BoomerGal

        Furthermore, white folks would NEVER disparage one of their own.

    • BoomerGal

      I couldn’t believe it. I was just through. See, we don’t need no help from white folks dividing us, we divide ourselves.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    *sigh*

    In Defense of Tuffy Gessling, the “Obama Rodeo Clown”
    By David Weigel | Posted Thursday, Aug. 15, 2013, at 9:48 AM

    …So why not let Tuffy Gessling and the rodeo announcers just apologize? Was the Obama gag so much worse than any of the Bush parodies? Well, the context was embarrassing, and that’s probably why the state fair and local politicians are coming down so hard. The gag went off the rails when the announcer yelled “He’s gonna getcher getcher getcher!” in the sort of voice usually reserved for people violating a naked Ned Beatty. It made Missourians look like yahoos.

    Banning Gessling doesn’t fix that. It looks like corporal punishment
    for free speech, and it gives Obama-haters proof that they can’t criticize Dear Leader without the state coming down on him. It turns a dumb-but-legal political joke into a moment of martyrdom. “Tuffy’s big
    sin,” according to a Facebook page created to defend him, is that “he dared to tell [a] joke using Obama.”

    MORE: http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/08/15/in_defense_of_tuffy_gessling_the_obama_rodeo_clown.html

    Byron Tau, who is Asian, also thinks firing the racist rodeo clown was wrong:

    Byron Tau @ByronTau 10m
    @charleslfreemn @AriFleischer @daveweigel Sure, but some of these are state-funded entities punishing him. That raises speech concerns.

    • rikyrah

      G-T-F-O-H

    • Alma98

      Sigh is right Sepia, these people need to get a grip. This is why racist are so out in the open now, the media covers for them and makes excuses for them.

    • GreenLadyHere

      Good MornTin’ Sepia♥ — -**BIG HUG** :>)

      – - -Annnd THIS is “WHYCOME” —RACISM —FLOURISHES!! –geesh! — -
      -Iff I may: –RACISM — anywhere –is a threat 2 JUSTICE EVERYWHERE![Modified --Dr. MLK,Jr.]

      –How –”Da STRUGGLE” continues!! – –

      – -Good 2 C U Sepia. :>)

    • MsKitty

      I am so over this false equivalency bullshit.

    • conlakappa

      Sigh, indeed. #stillnotgettingwhatfreedomofspeechmeans. No one put Tuffy [really? Is this Bobby Hill parody?!] into the stocks, took his home, or in any other way interfere with his life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness. This wasn’t a full-time gig. Tuffy, get over it.

    • Kennymack1971

      This is a bunch of Whitesplaining bullshit. These assholes are hanging on to their privilege for dear life.

    • Miranda
  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB – –THIS instagram – —-***tears/smiles*** – - -

    – - –2-DAY —-With the “DREAM DEFENDERS”- -

  • rikyrah

    Get to know the new GOP hostage strategy
    By Steve Benen
    Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:09 AM EDT

    A spirited debate has unfolded within the Republican Party over the last several weeks about what the party intends to do to sabotage the federal health care system. A significant contingent within the GOP has demanded a hostage strategy: Republicans should tell Democrats that they’ll shut down the government unless Dems agree to deny health care benefits to millions of Americans.

    The strategy is, of course, destined to fail. Democrats will never agree to pay such a ransom, and Republicans don’t want to be on the hook for a shutdown that puts their control of Congress in jeopardy.

    GOP leaders realize they can’t follow through on such threats, but they also realize radicalized rank-and-file congressional Republicans won’t be satisfied with nothing. With this in mind, National Review’s Robert Costa reports that GOP leaders are prepared to let one hostage go, while taking a new one for Republicans to threaten.

    Sources tell me the House GOP will probably avoid using a shutdown as leverage and instead use the debt limit and sequester fights as areas for potential legislative trades. Negotiations over increasing the debt limit have frequently been used to wring concessions out of the administration, so there may be movement in that direction: Delay Obamacare in exchange for an increased debt limit

    I lack the words to describe how truly crazy this is. “Dangerously stupid” and “hopelessly insane” come to mind, but even these phrases don’t capture the radicalism of the plan under consideration. It’s threatening a level of madness without modern American precedent.

    As Ezra Klein explained, “Trading a government shutdown for a debt-ceiling breach is like trading the flu for septic shock. And Boehner knows it. Republicans will effectively be going to the White House and saying, ‘Delay the health-care law or we will single-handedly cause an unprecedented and unnecessary global financial crisis that everyone will clearly and correctly blame on us, destroying our party for years to come.’ … This is not a safe way to govern the country.”

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/08/15/20036866-get-to-know-the-new-gop-hostage-strategy?lite

  • rikyrah

    Voter-suppression off to a fast start in North Carolina
    By Steve Benen
    Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:43 AM EDT.

    It was only four days ago that North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory (R) signed sweeping new voting restrictions into law (despite his own personal confusion over what the law says and does). But it’ll probably be a little while until we start to see the practical effects, right?

    Wrong. Voter-suppression efforts are off to a fast start in North Carolina (thanks to my colleague Tricia McKinney for the heads-up).

    Within hours of Gov. Pat McCrory signing a Republican-backed bill this week making sweeping changes to the state’s voting laws, local elections boards in two college towns made moves that could make it harder for students to vote.

    The Watauga County Board of Elections voted Monday to eliminate an early voting site and election-day polling precinct on the campus of Appalachian State University.

    The Pasquotank County Board of Elections on Tuesday barred an Elizabeth City State University senior from running for city council, ruling his on-campus address couldn’t be used to establish local residency. Following the decision, the head of the county’s Republican Party said he plans to challenge the voter registrations of more students at the historically black university ahead of upcoming elections.

    Much of the criticism of the voting restrictions in North Carolina have focused on Republican efforts to suppress African-American and low-income voter participation, but efforts to target students — who tend to be more progressive — are a key provision of the new state law.

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/08/15/20037180-voter-suppression-off-to-a-fast-start-in-north-carolina?lite

    • conlakappa

      Just like Ohio, the kids should become residents. Trifling.

  • rikyrah

    Post-Zimmerman trial, a divided America

    We live in a society deeply disjointed by race. We need debate and reconciliation, yes – but not white America’s condescension

    The George Zimmerman trial is only the latest national controversy to reveal just how separated and disjointed America is in terms of race. It seemed like only a small percentage of people speaking on the trial actually cared about the facts presented by the prosecution and the defense.

    By the time the trial started, people either thought a thug attacked an innocent man and got shot for it or a racist followed a black kid and shot him in cold blood, unprovoked. Minds haven’t been changed. Opinions haven’t been altered. These two sides represent larger opposing groups in America, where race is less a catalyst for discussion and more an invitation for vitriolic arguments.

    As usual, whenever there’s a national discussion on race, the discourse usually turns to what African Americans are doing wrong. “What is black America doing to cause black America so much distress?” becomes the prevalent headline whenever is leading the news cycles. In this particular case, pundits, scholars and, well, people without any qualification have lined up to offer their magical cures for black America.

    Bill O’Reilly dedicated a few segments to quickly diagnose why the African-American community is seeing the highest crime and incarceration rates. Among other suggestions, O’Reilly suggested that “The first solution is, you’ve got to stop young black women from having babies out of wedlock. You’ve got to discourage that actively” – as well as changing the leadership in the community. Don Lemon, the African-American CNN anchor, came under fire for offering a five-point plan to solve black America’s ills.

    He included the oft-used “pull up your pants” solution – that low pants symbolize low self-esteem and the fashion trend is somehow impregnating African-American teenagers or something.

    I’m not so offended by the actual suggestions that O’Reilly, Lemon and whatever other pseudo-philosopher have to offer, as much as I’m offended by the fact so many people think they have the missing solution to solving the plight of millions of Americans.

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/15/george-zimmerman-trial-racially-divided-america

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥ —News from the WWE: —WWE Superstar Darren Young Comes Out Of The Closet- -

    • Alma98

      My son and I were talking about this today. TMZ thought they were going to out him, but he took control of his own destiny. Good for him!

      • rikyrah

        Good

      • GreenLadyHere

        Alma – - -THANK U 4 that information. -I went lookin’ 4 some “comments” —since none were posted. :>)- -
        — -YES. – –***fist bump*** :>) –

        • Alma98

          Your welcome GLH.

    • conlakappa

      Hmmm, will Bonney Bello Lemon cover the homophobia amound WWE fans?

      *cricket chorus ’cause he’s not the go-to gay of TeaNN*

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY conlakappa. :>) ***BIG HUG** :>)

        —***BIG fist bump*** —Annnd —HE KNOWS IT. – –Stays real CHILLED on this topic. — HUH!

        – - – -Good 2 C U conlakappa. :>) – –

  • PBomb

    Oprah Spills on Stedman: ‘We’re Like an Old Married Couple’

    Though her talk show ended two years ago, Oprah Winfrey is finally opening up — about Stedman Graham, that is.

    The 59-year-old host/ actress/ mogul, famous for her ability to get people to share their personal stories on national television, has been notoriously silent about her relationship with her longtime fiancé even as she faced gay rumorswith her best friend, Gayle King. But now, after experiencing self-doubt and nearly suffering a breakdown because of OWN’s bumpy launch, it seems Ms. Winfrey has had a change of heart.

    -Snip-

    “He was amazing,” Oprah shares. “He said, ‘You can’t even think aboutquitting.’” And while he encouraged her, he didn’t sugarcoat the challenges she faced. Oprah remembers Stedman’s advice verbatim: “You have been in cruise control,” he told his longtime love. “It’s gonna turn around, but you’ve gotta do the work.”

    Apparently, Stedman has always been the determined type. Describing their first date 30 years ago, Oprah seems struck by his perseverance. “We went waterskiing,” she explains. “Stedman tried 28 times [to get up] and wouldn’t give up. I thought, ‘What is wrong with him? Good lord, this is exhausting!’ He would not quit.”

    More here: http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/oprah-spills-stedman-old-married-couple-192553788.html?cache=clear

    • Alma98

      No matter the innuendos or what people say about their relationship. They’ve been together longer than most marriages. I say rock on Oprah & Steadman, rock on!

  • Tunisia

    So Glenn Beck has been told about a horrific murder that happened in my town. The difference in this case is that the justice system worked. This mofo’s are paying for what they have done.

    http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/08/13/watch-glenn-shares-the-story-of-channon-christian-and-christopher-newsom/

    • Alma98

      Sorry can’t give Glenn clicks but I will say say this. Every since Trayvon crazy racist media personalities have been scouring the news for black on white crime. They never mention that the people have been or are being prosecuted. It’s false equivalence at it’s worse. That’s why only the rabid racists on faux news and Beck are talking about it. Let them go on their wild goose chase. Because we all know blacks who kill or injure a white person is going to jail no ifs ands or buts about it.

      • rikyrah

        are there investigations?
        yep
        perps arrested?
        yep
        there IS no equivalence for what happened with Trayvon and it fucking kills them

        • Alma98

          Tell it rikyrah! Yes it does and it also kills them that nobody but their circle of fools is paying them any attention.

    • PBomb

      I already know about these two young adults, the story was shown on a crime special. The idiots that killed them, have been tried and convicted.

      I still want to know how they got caught up with the killers, why would they have been picked out so randomly. The story is strange, but nonetheless the suspects were convicted.

      • Tunisia

        My husband and I think that it was drug related.

        • PBomb

          Me too. The show I saw, stated that both of them were abducted. If it was just Channon, I would get it but they abducted her boyfriend too. Who does that?

          Who abducts two people at the same time? Especially, a girl and her boyfriend, who was an athlete(played baseball).

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB♥ —-Here’ a perspective: —

    – —I Don’t Envy Obama – –

    – - –Canceling the upcoming military exercises with Egypt seems like a prudent and necessary move in light of the ridiculous and completely evil level of violence the generals just unleashed on pro-Morsi demonstrators. It’s mostly symbolic, of course, but circumstances call for some kind of symbol that we disapprove strongly with using snipers on political protestors.

    This is the most fraught and difficult foreign policy environment I’ve
    seen since the last days of the Shah,
    – and I was delivering newspapers onmy bike back then. The only faction that might be considered good in Egypt right now is group that protested against the Morsi government’s heavy-handedness and asked the military to intervene. But look at the result.

    Last year, it was the military’s refusal to fire on the protestors that
    forced Mubarak from power, but they have no compunction about shooting supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood. Armed and trained by, and allied with the United States, the Egyptian military’s actions reflect on us.

    Yet, we don’t want theocratic forces to prevail in Egypt, either. What
    we want is political reconciliation, but that is looking impossible
    right now. Moreover, we don’t want to lose our influence in Egypt
    because it will be replaced either by Saudi, Russian, or Chinese
    influence. And there is the peace process that is currently going on
    between the Israelis and Palestinians to consider. And Egypt’s peace
    treaty with Israel which involves our ongoing military support for
    Egypt.

    THERE IS MORE – –

    Annnd these R all the MORE REASONS 2 – - -SUPPORT MR. PRESIDENT. — -He is fought by –OBSTRUCTIONIST RACISTS – -on a DAILY basis! —Annnd –his OPINIONS R desired on the INTERNATIONAL level.–

    WE will CONTINUE 2 – -STAND STRONG —with U MR. PRESIDENT♥! —-WE MUST! :>) -

  • Miranda

    Afternoon thread is up!