October 23, 2017

Thursday Open Thread: President Obama’s Election Night Victory

  • crazycanuck

    Chuck D ‏@MrChuckD

    Heard ppl killin StaceyDash on her Romney choice,sayin she was ranting.Her points were clear no rant,ppl should learn how to READ carefully

    Interesting, I’ve yet to read what she has written, only excerpts here. Sounded to me like somethng is seriously wrong with her, but maybe I need to read the whole thing. Good Morining folks.

    • Mornin’ CC and POU!

      Chuck’s right. Dash’s points were clear — clear that she’s politically clueless.

      For example, she praised the Black Farmer’s settlement, saying that it was a result of bipartisanship, hence her support for RomneyRyan. In reality, Repubs fought tooth and nail not to pass the legislation her boy, Paul Ryan, voted AGAINST the settlement.

      The bottom line: Ol’ girl can’t get an acting gig and she was looking for attention and a sponsor in Paul Ryan.

      • AxelFoley

        Chuck needs to go somewhere with that shit if he’s defending her.

        • conlakappa

          Sounds like he’s try to git somewhere with her. Or maybe he owes her cousin Damon a favor.

      • Miranda

        She stupid.

      • GN

        She also said a bunch of malarkey about Mittens’ supposedly bipartisan record in MA.

    • edp4bho

      If my man is defending her, has he ever defended PBO in like manner?

    • GN

      Her points were ignorant, incoherent, and not clear, one, and two, most celebrities on twitter expressing political opinions encounter vitriol, particularly conservatives because twitter leans left. If Stacey Dash didn’t want precisely this attention, she never would have sought it.

      Thank God for black people in this country. If not for us, a corporate raider and vulture capitalist who is openly hostile to half the country would have been elected. Fuck anyone who has a problem with our political behavior whether expressed in the voting booth or on twitter.

    • TyrenM

      Damn. Just damn. I’m still forever down with the PE. I know money aint went to Chucks head like that. He must be hurtin cause Staten is hurting. If I tweeted I’d tell Chuck She Watch Channel Zero. Help educate her.

  • crazycanuck

    Just reading Dash timeline, sorry I just don’t understand how any black person, and a woman could vote for that man. Anyhoo, it’s her choice, she would have had to live with that.

  • rikyrah

    Barack Obama And The Death Of Normal

    America is different now, more so with every election cycle. Ronald Reagan won his mandate in an America in which 89 percent of the voters were white. That number is down to 72 percent and falling. Fifty thousand new Latino citizens achieve the voting age every month. America will soon belong to the men and women — white and black and Latino and Asian, Christian and Jew and Muslim and atheist, gay and straight — who can comfortably walk into a room and accept with real comfort the sensation that they are in a world of certain difference, that there are no real majorities, only pluralities and coalitions. The America in which it was otherwise is dying, thank god, and those who relied on entitlement and division to command power will either be obliged to accept the changes, or retreat to the gated communities from which they wish to wax nostalgic and brood on political irrelevance.

    You want to lead in America? Find a way to be entirely utilitarian — to address the most problems on behalf of the most possible citizens. That works. That matters. Last night, it mattered just enough to overcome the calcified political calculations of men who think that 47 percent will vote against them because they are victims, or that 53 percent are with them because the rest of us vote only from self-interest and without regard for the republic as a whole. It was a closer contest than common sense and the spirit of a truly great nation should dictate. But unless these white guys who have peddled “normal” for so long — normal as in racial majority, normal as in religious majority, normal as in sexual orientation — unless they have a hard moment of self-reflection and self-awareness, well, it will not be this close again.


    Hard times are still to come for all of us. Rear guard actions will be fought at every political crossroad. But make no mistake: Change is a motherfucker when you run from it. And right now, the conservative movement in America is fleeing from dramatic change that is certain and immutable. A man of color is president for the second time, and this happened despite a struggling economic climate and a national spirit of general discontent. He has been returned to office over the specific objections of the mass of white men. He has instead been re-elected by women, by people of color, by homosexuals, by people of varying religions or no religion whatsoever. Behold the New Jerusalem. Not that there’s anything wrong with being a white man, of course. There’s nothing wrong with being anything. That’s the point.
    This election marks a moment in which the racial and social hierarchy of America is upended forever. No longer will it mean more politically to be a white male than to be anything else.


    • goldenstar

      Great article!!!!!!

    • ch555x

      Good points! I also agree about the election being as close at it was…too much information out there for it to have been like that.

  • rikyrah

    Good Morning, Everyone 🙂

  • U.S. trade gap narrows in September on exports
    By Steve Goldstein

    WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — The U.S. trade deficit narrowed in September to $41.5 billion after exports rose more quickly than imports, the Commerce Department said Thursday. Economists polled by MarketWatch had forecast a $45.1 billion deficit. August’s trade gap was revised to $43.8 billion.


  • U.S. jobless claims fall 8,000 to 355,000
    By Jeffry Bartash

    WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) – Applications for U.S. unemployment benefits dropped by 8,000 to a seasonally adjusted 355,000 in the week ended Nov. 3, a number that was distorted by hurricane Sandy. Initial claims from two weeks ago were unrevised at 363,000, based on more complete data collected at the state level, the Labor Department said Thursday. Economists surveyed by MarketWatch expected claims to decline to 365,000, but they warned that the storm could make the data unreliable for a few weeks. Many people who were affected in large states such as New York and New Jersey may not have been able to file claims right away. The four-week average of new claims, meanwhile, rose by 3,250 to 370,500, Continuing claims fell by 135,000 to 3.13 million.


  • Biden to appear on ‘Parks and Recreaction’

    Vice President Biden is ready for his close-up.

    Biden, re-elected Tuesday, makes a cameo appearance on the Nov. 15 episode of NBC’s Parks and Recreation, a spot filmed back July.

    Entertainment Weekly reports that Biden’s scene “occurs at the beginning of the episode, in which former Congressional campaign manager Ben Wyatt (Adam Scott) takes fiancee/City Councilwoman Leslie Knope (Amy Poehler), to the White House to meet America’s No. 2, who has long been her No. 1 crush. (As Leslie once noted, her ideal man has ‘the brains of George Clooney and the body of Joe Biden.’)”

    MORE: http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2012/11/08/biden-parks-and-recreation/1691421/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=825998

    • Miranda

      Cool! I love this show and saw that episode when Leslie said that.

  • *blinking*

    For LeBron, Breakfast Comes Before Politics

    LeBron James said he went to bed Tuesday night before President Barack Obama made his victory speech. He was asked Wednesday morning at a pregame shootaround whether he woke up wondering whether the state of Florida had gone for Obama. “No,” James said. “I woke up saying, ‘Where my breakfast at?'”

    MORE: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324439804578105171265506946.html?mod=WSJ_GoogleNews

    • Kadijo

      GM all, I like that young man’s style. No, they will run around parsing that. He knew his man was going to win, you brainless twits.

  • rikyrah

    Evolution is a thing
    By Will Femia
    Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:00 AM EST

    Ohio really did go to the president last night.

    And he really did win.
    And he really was born in Hawaii.
    And he really is -legitimately- President of the United States.

    And the Bureau of Labor Statistics did not make-up a fake unemployment rate last month.
    And the Congressional Research Service really can find no evidence
    That cutting taxes on rich people grows the economy.

    And the polls were not skewed to over-sample Democrats.
    And Nate Silver was not making up fake projections about the election
    To make conservatives feel bad.
    He was doing math.

    And climate change is real.
    And rape really does cause pregnancy sometimes.
    And evolution is a thing.
    And Benghazi was an attack on us.
    It was not a scandal by us.

    And no one is taking away anyone’s guns.
    And taxes haven’t gone up.
    And the deficit is dropping, actually.
    And Saddam Hussein didn’t have weapons of mass destruction.

    And the moon landing was real.
    And FEMA isn’t building concentration camps.
    And UN election observers aren’t taking over Texas.
    And moderate reforms of the regulations on the insurance industry
    And the financial services industry
    Are not the same thing as communism.



  • Miranda

    Their tears are sweet like caramel candy


      • AxelFoley

        Damn, she got her daddy’s eyes.


      • JojoRaze

        She has this look that says: Good! Daddy and Romney was gonna get rid of Big Bird and I wasn’t down for that!”

        Ole girl prolly voted for PBO in the class elections at her school.

    • Worldwatcher7

      This is the greatest thing on the internet — ever.

    • vulcan_girl

      I just laughed and laughed at some of those faces, especially if they were holding wineglasses.

      • conlakappa

        I laughed especially at people with so much fakeness talking about the end of anything. Like the blonde about morals–honey, your hair is from a bottle, your tan is from a nozzle, and from the tilt of your shoulders, I’m going to go ahead and say that your boobs have serial numbers.

  • rikyrah

    The Greatness of Barack Obama Is Our Great Project

    By Charles P. Pierce

    at 3:07AM

    There is a story that they tell in Georgia politics about the first time that Barack Obama was inaugurated as this most improbable president of the United States. Shortly before the ceremony, they say, he met with John Lewis, the congressman and American hero who was nearly beaten to death on the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Alabama as he marched to demand the right simply to vote. The two huddled in the corner and the president-elect wrote something on Lewis’s inaugural program. He walked away, and Lewis showed the program to the friends who had come with him.

    “Because of you,” it said. “Barack Obama.”

    Part of what drives people crazy about him — and if you wanted to see crazy, you should have seen the fugue state that overcame the Fox election all-stars last night, because I’ve seen jollier police lineups — is that he so clearly understands his own genuine historical stature, and that he wears it so easily, and that he uses it so deftly. It is not obvious. He does not use it brutally or obviously. It is just… there with him, a long and deep reservoir of violence and sorrow and tragedy and triumph out of which comes almost everything he does. He came into this office a figure of history, unlike anyone who’s become president since George Washington. The simple event of him remains a great gravitational force in our politics. It changes the other parts of our politics in their customary orbits. It happens so easily and so in the manner of an immutable physical law that you hardly notice that it has happened until you realize that what you thought you knew about the country and its people had been shifted by degrees until it is in a completely different place.

    Change, he talks about.

    Change is the force around him when he walks into the room.

    Read more: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/barack-obama-2012-14524219#ixzz2BdnFPo2e

    • goldenstar

      Great post. Language almost poetic. A must-read.

      • jds09

        Some of the comments are great too.

    • nellcote

      One of the best posts Pierce has ever written about President Obama. He really gets what’s so special about the man and this moment in history.

  • rikyrah

    November 07, 2012 10:33 AM
    The Mystery of Why Republicans Were So Sure They’d Win

    By Paul Glastris

    Over the weekend, I had an extensive conversation with a longtime Republican operative, a veteran of three GOP White Houses, who insisted, despite all the poll data to the contrary, that Mitt Romney was poised to win, possibly by a big margin. I knew it was possible that he was spinning me, but the very real sense I got was that he was not, that he truly, honestly believed what he was saying.

    Writing from Romney’s Boston campaign headquarters this morning, the Washington Examiner’s, Byron York makes clear that this willing suspension of disbelief was extremely common among members of the GOP.

    A few hours earlier, across the street at the Convention Center, the campaign’s supporters and volunteers fully expected Romney to be the nation’s next president. Indeed, what was striking after Fox News called the race for Obama, at about 11:15 p.m., was how stunned so many of Romney’s supporters were. Many said they were influenced by the prominent conservatives who predicted a big Romney win, and they fully expected Tuesday night to be a victory celebration.
    “I am shocked, I am blown away,” said Joe Sweeney, of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. “I thought I had a pretty good pulse on this stuff. I thought there was a trend that was going on underground.”

    “We were so convinced that the people of this country had more common sense than that,” said Nan Strauch, of Hilton Head, South Carolina. “It was just a very big surprise. We felt so confident.”

    “It makes me wonder who my fellow citizens are,” said Marianne Doherty of Boston. “I’ve got to be honest, I feel like I’ve lost touch with what the identity of America is right now. I really do.”


    • So Romney’s supporters are just as delusional and arrogant as he is.

      • AxelFoley

        T’would seem so, milady.

    • MonieTalks

      We all knew Mitt’s rallies were almost devoid of diversity.

      They tried to show highlight diversity through their speakers at the RNC. But it is surreal that they didn’t realize having a sea of white faces yelling “take our country back” was horrible public relations.

      At the end of the day, people would rather be a part of a coalition that is inclusive than the opposite. The RNC and media as well, were more interested in calculating and oversampling white voters supposed dissatisfaction and discontent and forgot that other groups like Blacks, Latinos, Asians, LGBT have those same feeling, but towards a different target.

      • jds09

        POCs can spot tokens from 200 ft. All that RNC ”diversity” backfired. People were like “seriously, you think a figurehead is all I want?” Republicans are some tone deaf mofos.

      • TyrenM

        Speaking of RNC, I see mc steele on tv all the time cooning, where’s reince?

        • Miranda


    • Miranda

      That bubble is really thick.

      • conlakappa

        As are their heads if anything interferes with the bubble.

    • jds09

      This was the foundation of their grift…

      “In recent weeks the campaign came up with a super-secret, super-duper vote monitoring system that was dubbed Project Orca. The name “Orca,” after the whale, was apparently chosen to suggest that the project was bigger than anything any other campaign, including Barack Obama’s in 2008, had ever imagined. ”

      Those boys had a hard-core hustle going on that was also reinforced by “complexion protection”. Nobody asked for receipts. Amazing.

      • GN

        Didn’t that system crash on election day?

      • nellcote

        And in the end Orca literally crashed. A total scam.

    • Town

      “It makes me wonder who my fellow citizens are,” said Marianne Doherty of Boston. “I’ve got to be honest, I feel like I’ve lost touch with what the identity of America is right now. I really do.”


    • nellcote

      I know it probably won’t happen but I wish these people would take a long hard look at where they get their information and ask why they were so misled.

  • rikyrah

    “The Nerdiest Election In The History Of The American Republic”

    That’s what Ackerman calls it. Sasha Issenberg explains why the Democrats’ data operation excelled:

    If Republicans brought consumer data into politics during Bush’s re-election, Democrats are mastering the techniques that give campaigns the ability to understand what actually moves voters. As a result, Democrats are beginning to engage a wider set of questions about what exactly a campaign is capable of accomplishing in an election year: not just how to modify nonvoters’ behavior to get them to the polls, but what exactly can change someone’s mind outside of the artificial confines of a focus group.

    Michael Scherer has more details:

    Rather than rely on outside media consultants to decide where ads should run, Messina based his purchases on the massive internal data sets. “We were able to put our target voters through some really complicated modeling, to say, O.K., if Miami-Dade women under 35 are the targets, [here is] how to reach them,” said one official. As a result, the campaign bought ads to air during unconventional programming, like Sons of Anarchy, The Walking Dead and Don’t Trust the B—- in Apt. 23, skirting the traditional route of buying ads next to local news programming. How much more efficient was the Obama campaign of 2012 than 2008 at ad buying? Chicago has a number for that: “On TV we were able to buy 14% more efficiently … to make sure we were talking to our persuadable voters,” the same official said.

    The numbers also led the campaign to escort their man down roads not usually taken in the late stages of a presidential campaign. In August, Obama decided to answer questions on the social news website Reddit, which many of the President’s senior aides did not know about. “Why did we put Barack Obama on Reddit?” an official asked rhetorically. “Because a whole bunch of our turnout targets were on Reddit.”


  • GreenLadyHere
  • rikyrah

    Inside the Secret World of the Data Crunchers Who Helped Obama Win
    By Michael Scherer
    Nov. 07, 2012

    In late spring, the backroom number crunchers who powered Barack Obama’s campaign to victory noticed that George Clooney had an almost gravitational tug on West Coast females ages 40 to 49. The women were far and away the single demographic group most likely to hand over cash, for a chance to dine in Hollywood with Clooney — and Obama.

    So as they did with all the other data collected, stored and analyzed in the two-year drive for re-election, Obama’s top campaign aides decided to put this insight to use. They sought out an East Coast celebrity who had similar appeal among the same demographic, aiming to replicate the millions of dollars produced by the Clooney contest. “We were blessed with an overflowing menu of options, but we chose Sarah Jessica Parker,” explains a senior campaign adviser. And so the next Dinner with Barack contest was born: a chance to eat at Parker’s West Village brownstone.

    For the general public, there was no way to know that the idea for the Parker contest had come from a data-mining discovery about some supporters: affection for contests, small dinners and celebrity. But from the beginning, campaign manager Jim Messina had promised a totally different, metric-driven kind of campaign in which politics was the goal but political instincts might not be the means. “We are going to measure every single thing in this campaign,” he said after taking the job. He hired an analytics department five times as large as that of the 2008 operation, with an official “chief scientist” for the Chicago headquarters named Rayid Ghani, who in a previous life crunched huge data sets to, among other things, maximize the efficiency of supermarket sales promotions.

    Exactly what that team of dozens of data crunchers was doing, however, was a closely held secret. “They are our nuclear codes,” campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt would say when asked about the efforts. Around the office, data-mining experiments were given mysterious code names such as Narwhal and Dreamcatcher. The team even worked at a remove from the rest of the campaign staff, setting up shop in a windowless room at the north end of the vast headquarters office. The “scientists” created regular briefings on their work for the President and top aides in the White House’s Roosevelt Room, but public details were in short supply as the campaign guarded what it believed to be its biggest institutional advantage over Mitt Romney’s campaign: its data.

    Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2012/11/07/inside-the-secret-world-of-quants-and-data-crunchers-who-helped-obama-win/#ixzz2BdpO5lGD

  • Kadijo

    SO, Karl Rove and GOP political machine lied to 1%, Romney fam and ‘conservatives’ to keep the base alive. They knew people would not fork $$ if there was only 40 % chance of winning. They had to have numbers out there showing RMoney with the upper hand. They conned these people out of their $$.

    • AxelFoley

      Couldn’t happen to a nicer group.

  • rikyrah

    Does Fox Help or Hurt the GOP?

    by BooMan
    Thu Nov 8th, 2012 at 08:23:42 AM EST

    I consider Fox News to be a neurotoxin. Watching the network actually damages your brain and makes it harder to think clearly. This is mainly because it is designed to trigger emotional responses and to force you to make logical connections that don’t exist. It actively misinforms, but that’s not what does the brain damage. The damage is done by essentially un-teaching you how to think. However, it may be going too far to say that Fox News is killing the Republican Party. In some ways, the network is necessary to make the modern GOP possible. What would the Tea Party eruption have been without Fox News? And the 2010 midterms were the best election cycle for the Republicans in history.
    More than anything else, Fox News acts as a gathering place for people of like mind. And those people are older, whiter, and more exurban and rural than the population as a whole. Fox helps them feel solidarity and gives them the sense that they are part of a movement. It gives them sources of outrage to organize around. And it has more legitimacy than talk radio both because it is on television and because it is treated no differently than CBS or ABC or CNN.

    Of course, there are downsides to Fox News for the Republican Party. But I think those downsides are longer term. The network contributes to the radicalization of the GOP and makes it harder for moderates to cross the aisle and work constructively with Democrats. The way the network uses images of minorities to strike fear into their white audience contributes to the alienation of people of color from the Republican Party. And, ultimately, there has to be a price to be paid for making a huge segment of the American population stupid and misinformed. It’s a deal with the devil. You win an election today but you can’t govern effectively and wind up losing elections tomorrow.

    Yet, on the whole, I don’t think the modern GOP could exist without Fox News. They couldn’t mobilize the support they have without the network.


  • AxelFoley

    Love Michelle and Jill’s reaction in the last picture.

    • goldenstar

      What’s amazing is that both couples love working with one another. Their body language throughout tells all.

      PBO (in consultation with FLOTUS, I’m sure) made a great choice in the Bidens.

  • MonieTalks

    I have to say, the media has been truly criminal in this country. And if they reported facts instead of reactions and the “acting” that politicos do, PBO probably could have shaved off even more of Romney’s white electorate.

    Case in point: I have a friend, another military spouse. who lived across the street from me when I lived in Fort Lewis, WA. We’ve kept in touch through Facebook. She’s a Republican, from FL. She is one of those evangelicals who had a very hard time coming to terms with Mitt and Mormonism. She called a non-Christian secret cult and felt that Mitt was too secretiv. Whenever I would post hateful, racist rhetoric from the right wing, she hated that as well. She also posted some birther mess before as well. In the end I am confident she voted for Mitt. She had posted an app that said she agrees more with him.

    So yesterday her status was this: Instead of a mormon, we’re stuck with the moron for 4 more years, woo frickin’ woo.

    Others responded to her, with some pushback. Then she started going on about being forced to purchase government healthcare, blah, blah, blah.

    So I replied: The funny thing is that the individual mandate that you dislike is actually a Republican idea. Back in the 1980s, the Heritage Foundation (a conservative think tank) pitched it to Congress and when Bill Clinton was in office in the 1990s and tried to pass healthcare, the Republicans presented a bill (with 20 co-sponsors) with the individual mandate as the alternative against his plan. Later, Mitt Romney later passed the healthcare law in MA that required the individual mandate. It is only now that the GOP hates the same ideals they advocated for years. That’s the hypocrisy of it all.

    The only response she could come up with was she didn’t like that stuff that Mitt did in MA, and she doesn’t also agree with either party and she’s tired of all these politicians who sit in office for years and years.

    It was the biggest cop-out…you see Republicans have been pushing for the individual mandate for 30 YEARS, and the one time a Democrat agrees to compromise with their ideology becomes something foreign. If you present many people with these facts they realize…damn, really…I’ve been that ignorant all this time.

    • Tafr

      Wait a minute Monie! Is this woman enrolled in tricare?

      • MonieTalks


        You don’t get anymore so–called socialistic than the military. Your pay is set based on rank, in some ranks you have to have a minimum time in service before you are even considered for a promotion, you are given government healthcare, basic housing allowance and other incentives.

        Every time I got to message boards with these military spouses ranting about socialism and all that mess,I shake my head.

        • MsKitty

          I know that mindset all too well. We’re a contractor yet there’s more then a few wingnuts here spouting those talking points. Amazing that they never connect the dots.

        • Tafr

          I know right! I do not have the patience for military spouses spewing that garbage. As you said the military is the perfect example of socialism.

          You got the patience of a saint Monie because your friend is dim.

        • conlakappa

          You also have access to commissary and PXs, with all of the deep discounts that brings. Might be questionable about the goods at the PX but groceries are indexed at 52% of grocery-store prices.

  • GN

    NBC: “Crossroads had a success rate of just 1% on $103M in attack ads, one of the lowest returns on investment of any outside group”

    • edp4bho

      Good morning POU, and………WOW! That much money could have revived a few small towns, if not an entire city. Just wow !!

    • MsKitty

      Can you imagine being in Karl Rove’s shoes? Blew hundreds of millions of other people’s money and has absolutely nothing to show for it. And you know Adelson and his cohorts are shady enough that they probably have the Five Families on speed dial.

      Yep, I’d imagine Turd Blossom is shitting a ton of bricks right about now.

      • Miranda

        He will never get a good night’s sleep ever again. LOL

    • Kennymack1971

      And this is why Karl Rove had a meltdown in real time Tuesday night. All that money spent and nothing to show for it. Ol Karl has some splainin to do.

      • Miranda

        Karl Rove gonna stay on TV now..he gotta stay in the public eye as much as possible because I am sure Big Tony and his brass knuckles waiting on him.

        • sagittarius


        • Kennymack1971

          LOL yep no fishing trips or boat rides for Ol Karl.

      • rikyrah

        Like I said..

        when you’re a grifter

        and you ain’t got shyt to show to your marks…

        makes getting money from more marks even harder next time

    • conlakappa

      What was the 1%? Sounds like rounding. I don’t think they even targeted 100 races. Maybe it was 30.

  • This is what happens when a Romney supporter tries to diss the First Family: http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q615/sepiaobot/tweets_extremelibvsromneyfan_zps83e157f0.jpg

    • Miranda

      LOL – thought she was gonna get in that tweet and run away huh?

      • conlakappa

        Did she watch them after the concession speech? When that man hugged those men, it looked as if it were the first time. I still think even he cannot distinguish one from another.

  • GreenLadyHere


    – – –GOOD HAPPY 2nd DAY of da NEXT! – –4! —YEARS! – – -Woo! Hoo! – – -THANK U 4 the EXCITIN’ SERIES!! – —


    Obama Campaign Surprised at Quick Call

    – – – –President Obama’s re-election team “was confident he would win another four years in the White House. But even his top campaign aides were surprised at how quickly the television networks called the race in the president’s favor on Tuesday,” the Washington Post reports.

    “Obama had arrived at the Fairmont Hotel, where his aides were staying on Tuesday night, but they did not expect him to be declared winner so soon In fact, the president had not yet gathered with his aides; he was with his family in their suite on the 37th floor, with the staffers in another room, said one senior aide who spoke on condition of anonymity to describe private moments.”

    – — —THIS SERIES – – -“HITS da SPOT” – — 4 KEEPIN’ the EXCITEMENT- — GOIN’ – – -FORWARD – ->Woo! Hoo! – – – -THANK U. :>) —

    Have a GR8 DAY. :>) – – – –

  • GN

    Big Picture stuff. RT @snkscoyote Obama Victory Could Spell End Of Conservative Supreme Court – Forbes http://onforb.es/VSeGwd

    • nellcote

      fingers crossed!

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2 – – – -LOL – – – -Mt. HARRY REID – — -Is like THAT BUNNY – — –CONTINUES 2 ROLL ON!! – — -BUT in a KINDER — GENTLER MODE! – -LOL —

    — –Harry Reid Invites Republicans To ‘Dance’ On Fiscal Cliff – —

    – –<iDance with me, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said to Republicans the day after his party humbled the GOP in Senate contests from Massachusetts to Hawaii on Election Day Tuesday.

    With the elections over, and Democrats doing far better than Republicans expected, both sides have started turning to the looming “fiscal cliff” of expiring tax cuts and the steep budget reductions required in the so-called sequester.

    Reid, praising his own Democratic party as the one representing diversity and listening to America, said in a Capitol Hill press conference Wednesday that the solution to congressional gridlock is for the GOP to stop making all legislation a fight.

    “The election is over, and we have enormous challenges ahead of us,” Reid told reporters, suggesting Congress should act on taxes and budget cuts in the lame-duck session that starts next week. “We have to sit down and go to work on them now, and not wait.”

    Reid twice noted that his counterpart Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) had declared that defeating President Barack Obama was the GOP’s top goal, and he said Republicans should get over it.

    “That’s gone. He was reelected overwhelmingly,” said Reid, who is a former boxer. His comments Wednesday were similar in sentiment to an offhand observation he made when he first became the majority leader.

    “I said: ‘I know how to fight. I know how to dance. I don’t dance as well as I fight, but I’d much rather dance any time.’ And I still feel that way,” Reid said, extending an olive branch to McConnell. “It is better to dance than to fight. It is better to work together.

    • nellcote

      I’m already sick of hearing about the fucking fiscal cliff. I’ll need to get a new umbrella for all the pundit bull shit raining down.

      • qosine

        For real. The Miserable Media: cataclysm, cliff, devastation – they’ve got their Thesaurus of Doom on standby 24/7.

      • conlakappa

        For them, it was either pivot back to that or talking about the President’s amazing re-election in spite of Citizens United. They still want to cash their checks for work, right? So they’ll go back to creating doom and gloom.

  • jds09

    I’ve gotta say THANK YOU to my POU Fam. I became the lighthouse for scarred shook black folks in my circle of friends and family during the last weeks of the campaign because of the knowledge and support I got from this site.

    Many days I found myself saying:

    No weapon shall prosper
    We ain’t playing with Mitt because of (insert fact found here)
    I’ll email you (source from POU)
    etc., etc. etc.

    Thank you all, you kept me grounded and sane. T

    • edp4bho

      “No weapon shall prosper”

      That was my running mantra….aided me when the nerves would set in.

  • GN

    deaniac deserves a round of applause for years of consistent, brilliant analysis, and constantly calming people who were panicked by the professional left and netroots.

    Vindication: Signed, Sealed, Delivered.

    Last night, the President didn’t just win re-election, he won it by a good thumping – and if he wins Florida, as is increasingly looking the case – he will have beat all expectations, including that of Nate Silver’s – in the electoral college, winning 332 electoral votes. That, in an economy still recovering from the near-depression and in a political environment where the opposition party was determined to drag the country back down into recession just to deny President Obama a second term, is a landslide. If President Obama wins Florida, he will have won 332 electoral college votes compared to Romney’s 206 – a margin of more than 100 votes. That’s a landslide.

    This piece isn’t about a big analysis. I will do that later. This one goes out to all of you – all of you who kept faith, who worked hard, who trusted this president, who stood by this president – not just this election but throughout his first term. Because last night wasn’t just victory. It was vindication. It was vindication not just for this campaign but for the policies and reforms for which you stood by the president’s side and fought hard against naysayers from both sides of the political extreme…


    • Worldwatcher7

      Deaniac has been a straight G; a peaceful warrior.

    • JojoRaze

      POU and Deaniac have been consistently, and unabashedly pro-PBO. Deaniac has been right about everything. I think one of the OFAs used a post of his to explain the debt deal negotiations post-2010. He’s been the brain, and we are the heart.

      • conlakappa

        What is this, the Wizard of Oz? Which of us is courage? gets to go back to Kansas? /cheesy grin

  • Miranda

    Picket Fence Apocalypse

    No, you cannot have your country back. America is moving forward.

    That’s the message voters sent the Republican Party and its Tea Party wing Tuesday night when they re-elected President Obama and strengthened the Democrats’ control of the Senate.

    No amount of outside money or voter suppression or fear mongering or lying — and there was a ton of each — was enough to blunt that message.

    President Obama and his formidable campaign machine out-performed the Republicans, holding together a winning coalition that is the face of America’s tomorrow: young voters, urban voters, racially and ethnically diverse voters and women voters.

    more here

    • rikyrah

      No, you cannot have your country back. America is moving forward

      coulda been the entire article.

      and no less truth would have ever been written.

      • conlakappa

        One of the calls I made was to an older white woman who told me how impressed she was with the slogan “Forward.” She said that was exactly right–the other side was promising to go backwards. Remember when the media clowns were making fun of it? Yeah, neither do they. Now.

  • Miranda

    Official Wanda Sykes‏@iamwandasykes
    Mittens met with his big donors. I hope that video shows up. I’m 147% sure that somebody said the n word.

  • GN


    Right before the President’s acceptance speech, he was waving to the supporters who were in front of him. In the above video, Sasha tapped him to make sure that he didn’t forget to wave to the supporters behind him too. We have a beautiful First Family full of sweethearts.

    • JojoRaze

      They are raising those girls right! She so did say “Daddy, look behind you.” So considerate of her to remind her Dad of that.

  • sagittarius

    Good morning, POU Fam:

    I am recovering from a 24 hour flu virus, so I was unable to celebrate with you yesterday. I feel much better today and look forward to reading the insights of this community as the post-mortem about the election is completed over the next couple of weeks.

  • sagittarius

    Hi, gn

    I noticed that too on Tuesday. It looked like Sasha said ‘Dad, look behind you’.

    • GN

      Yup; so sweet and thoughtful.

  • nellcote

    It’s awesome to realize we can win the presidency without the south, including Florida.

    • Miranda

      That is the most wonderful part about this win. Let the Republican Party become one of the confederacy and the militia upper midwest where folks believe black helicopters hover over their cabins in the woods looking for them.

      • JojoRaze

        The funny thing is, they don’t even win the Upper Midwest. Those white people in OH, MI, MN, WI, and Iowa love PBO–that’s what made the South irrelevant.

        • TyrenM

          Thanks Jojo,

          Signed – BLUE (President, Senator, Congressman, Governor, Both Houses of Legislature, NO on Voter Suppression and Gay Marriage Ban Amendments) MINNESOTA!

  • GN

    Nothing “perceived” about it:

    Black electorate responds mightily to perceived voter-intimidation efforts

    Analysts, voters and politicians said that a series of episodes here in Ohio — where exit polls showed black voters accounting for 15 percent of Tuesday’s electorate, up from 11 percent in 2008 — were seen by African Americans as efforts to keep them from voting, stirring a profound backlash on Election Day.


    • qosine

      The media are so cowardly. They also use those damn qualifiers.

      Better: Black electorate responds mightily to voter-intimidation.

      • GN

        And it’s precisely why the beltway media is bleeding credibility.

      • conlakappa

        Maddow described Rapin and Mourdock comments as “unfortunate.” Really?!

    • rikyrah



      • GN

        They’re still lying in service of the GOP.

      • Miranda

        Cuz we so over-reacting and all..get all up in arms over nuthin…you know how excitable we are – thus “perceived”..cuz we just so sensitive, thinking its all about “us”.

      • OK? What’s next? “Perceived slavery”? “Perceived Jim Crow”?

        They’re desperately trying push the narrative that there were no efforts suppress our vote. Yesterday — I forgot which show it was — they were breaking down the voter demographic, and when they mentioned the Black and Latino vote, one of the panelists said, “Well, there goes those conspiracy theories”. WTF??? It wasn’t a damn “conspiracy theory”! That shit was REAL. But it didn’t work because WE FOUGHT BACK.

    • Kennymack1971

      Perceived? Man GTFOH. These bastards did everything they could to keep Black folks from voting and it blew up in their face because all they did was piss us off. The MSM can go sit on a rusty pitchfork with this bullshit.

    • rikyrah

      You know, I had to walk away from this because I was so fucking mad.


      how come anything that Black folks understand to be true is ‘perceived’.

      it’s only ‘ perceived’, because folks, BLack, White, Latino, et al, stood up and said

      HOLD UP

      about you mofos thinking you’re going to disenfranchise FIVE MILLION AMERICANS with these Voted ID Laws.

      I can name – on one hand- the people in the MSM who took the possible stripping of the right to vote from FIVE MILLION AMERICANS SERIOUSLY.

      Of course, if it had come to pass….and those FIVE MILLION PEOPLE HAD BEEN STRIPPED OF THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE

      we wouldn’t have heard SHYT from clowns like this.

      They mad that we fought their fucking laws.

      They mad that we came out to vote.

      They mad we stood in those lines.



      it was as real as the keyboard that I’m typing on.

      they tried everything, and shyt came up snakeeyes because

      ‘ those people’ showed up to vote.

      they’re in shock, and they want it to be the ‘ good old days’ when they could take the right to vote and steal elections in the dead of night.

      Husted of Ohio truly thought someone was playing with him, but that judge wasn’t.

      And, all those people who voted early weren’t.

      And the people standing in those lines weren’t.

      He realized that all eyes were on him, and that shyt about Tagg owning voting machines came out BEFORE the election, so eyes truly were on him..

      and he knew, his ass was going to JAIL.

      NOBODY was playing with him.

      it finally dawned on him.

      it finally dawned on the lot of them…

      Nobody was ever playing with them.

    • Daltex82

      At some point in time these folks will realize that we:

      1. Can smell BS a mile away
      2. Don’t appreciate intimidation tactics.
      3. Don’t need pundits or preachers to tell us how to vote,
      4. Will listen to and support you until you piss us off (ask Tavis)
      5. Do not vote against our own best interest
      6. Are not forgiving when we feel we or the person we
      support is disrespected

      This turnout was about more than just voter suppression tactics, I think it was a statement to all rethuglicans that we have seen you at your ugliest and we did not like or appreciate it.

      • GN

        Broken down like a fraction, Daltex!

        President Obama tried to tell the GOP that there was going to be accountability and they didn’t listen. Black voters indeed are extremely inconvenient to regressives which is why we are attacked so much by both rightwing and leftwing PBO-haters.

  • qosine

    Debbie W-S cut her hair, I think. She looks good.

  • nellcote

    A fascinating look at the data crunchers behind the scenes in Chicago:

    In late spring, the backroom number crunchers who powered Barack Obama’s campaign to victory noticed that George Clooney had an almost gravitational tug on West Coast females ages 40 to 49. The women were far and away the single demographic group most likely to hand over cash, for a chance to dine in Hollywood with Clooney — and Obama.

    So as they did with all the other data collected, stored and analyzed in the two-year drive for re-election, Obama’s top campaign aides decided to put this insight to use. They sought out an East Coast celebrity who had similar appeal among the same demographic, aiming to replicate the millions of dollars produced by the Clooney contest. “We were blessed with an overflowing menu of options, but we chose Sarah Jessica Parker,” explains a senior campaign adviser. And so the next Dinner with Barack contest was born: a chance to eat at Parker’s West Village brownstone.
    For all the praise Obama’s team won in 2008 for its high-tech wizardry, its success masked a huge weakness: too many databases. Back then, volunteers making phone calls through the Obama website were working off lists that differed from the lists used by callers in the campaign office. Get-out-the-vote lists were never reconciled with fundraising lists. It was like the FBI and the CIA before 9/11: the two camps never shared data. “We analyzed very early that the problem in Democratic politics was you had databases all over the place,” said one of the officials. “None of them talked to each other.” So over the first 18 months, the campaign started over, creating a single massive system that could merge the information collected from pollsters, fundraisers, field workers and consumer databases as well as social-media and mobile contacts with the main Democratic voter files in the swing states.

    The new megafile didn’t just tell the campaign how to find voters and get their attention; it also allowed the number crunchers to run tests predicting which types of people would be persuaded by certain kinds of appeals. Call lists in field offices, for instance, didn’t just list names and numbers; they also ranked names in order of their persuadability, with the campaign’s most important priorities first. About 75% of the determining factors were basics like age, sex, race, neighborhood and voting record. Consumer data about voters helped round out the picture. “We could [predict] people who were going to give online. We could model people who were going to give through mail. We could model volunteers,” said one of the senior advisers about the predictive profiles built by the data. “In the end, modeling became something way bigger for us in ’12 than in ’08 because it made our time more efficient.”

    Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2012/11/07/inside-the-secret-world-of-quants-and-data-crunchers-who-helped-obama-win/#ixzz2BeGlhFhW

  • GN

    Here we go in terms of purists “demanding” that people stop attacking their loser shock jocks:

    I like @angryblacklady, she is great. But she really needs to stop ridiculously slamming @ggreenwald & “Purist left” as she says. ASAP.

    And they need to stop. @ggreenwald tells no lies on that RT @AngryBlackLady @sluggahjells i have long-standing issues with greenwald.

    To me, one of the biggest results of this election cycle is the irrelevance of the purist left. As Axel noted, spaces like dkos might have tried to reform over the last year and attempt to amass some credibility with moderates in the base, but the long and short of it is that President Obama’s assertions of values which resonate with the American people and his amazing turnout operation sealed the deal. Pray tell me why anyone would need to pay even a little bit of attention to the nutroots or professional left in light of this. What do they bring to the table other than negativity, complaints, and egomania?

    • nellcote

      I don’t mind when they criticize on policy issues. We all have a right to our opinions and I find it helps make me stronger when I have to defend mine. But I do object when they make it personal. and I do object when they don’t recognize progress. and I do object when they are so politically clueless that they don’t recognize when there’s a time to debate and then there’s a time to hold together to support PBO.

      • GN

        That’s my issue as well. Their “critiques” are generally ignorant and/or based on lies and misrepresentations. If we’re serious about 2014, the purist left needs to be put on 100% mute. They literally troll progress.

        • qosine

          For sure. I glanced over those old sites yesterday, and I realized they do nothing for me. They’re part of my past I have no desire to revisit. My remote is set to WPOU.

      • Kadijo

        Yup, Van Jones understood that much when in the end. He knew he wouldn’t have a place on the national platform if he had not recognized PBO’s accomplishments. AND, he is the perfect example for why book smart does not make you a good NATIONAL LEADER like PBO. If you can’t get a majority of people to help you implement GREEN policies, nothing happens.

        • Speaking of Green jobs, does he even talk about that anymore?

          • Kadijo

            Imo, he lost the megaphone on that by shipting his focus to 99% activities.

    • Miranda

      The netroots, purist left, the lot of them….are selfish. They really are. They simply are too selfish and arrogant to be taken seriously. No better than the tea party nuts when it comes to reality.

    • You know what’s so ironic about GG and his defenders? They’re quick to label PBO supporters as “a cult” worshipping our “dear leader”, but they’re the ones trying to dictate how we should speak about Greenwald.

  • qosine

    America has never been about what can be done for us. It’s about what can be done by us, together, through the hard and frustrating but necessary work of self-government. That’s the principle we were founded on.

    — President Barack Obama, November 7, 2012


  • GN

    Campaign ads? $752 million. Voting machines? $10 million. Not being able to buy an election? Priceless.

  • Miranda

    So they had seriously convinced themselves that all the polls were wrong? The bubble is way thick.

    But Romney’s top aides, who only a couple of days ago were openly speculating about who would fill which jobs in a Romney administration, woke up Wednesday to face brutal recriminations.
    Some top donors privately unloaded on Romney’s senior staff, describing it as a junior varsity operation that failed to adequately insulate and defend Romney through a summer of relentless attacks from the Obama campaign over his business career and personal wealth.

    “Everybody feels like they were a bunch of well-meaning folks who were, to use a phrase that Governor Romney coined to describe his opponent, way in over their heads,” said one member of the campaign’s national finance committee, who requested anonymity to speak candidly.

    “Romney World,” the fundraiser added, “will fade into the obscurity of a lot of losing campaigns.”

    Stuart Stevens, who as Romney’s chief strategist was the recipient of some of the harshest blame, did not return requests for comment Wednesday. Nor did many of Romney’s other top advisers, who during Romney’s concession speech were visibly shell-shocked.


    • Daltex82

      …Nor did many of Romney’s other top advisers, who during Romney’s concession speech were visibly shell-shocked.


      I just find it odd, that they were all so confident (dare I say over confidant) that a win was in the bag. Perhaps they really did believe that they had enough shenanigans in place that a win would be inevitable, that they could steal the election and get away with it because the presstitutes would be so busy gloating and delighting in Shmitt the “come back kid” that any suspicions would be dismissed as sour grapes.

      Oh well to bad so sad, but I have to admit they all really did look shell shocked, standing in stunned disbelief! That for me was the icing on the cake of a wonderful night.

    • MsKitty

      My favorite part of the article, because I’m mean like that…

      In Washington, meanwhile, scores of transition-team staffers who had been preparing for a Romney administration started packing their belongings Wednesday.

      Mike Leavitt, the former Utah governor running the transition, convened a conference call at 10 a.m. to inform the staff they had until Friday to organize their files, return their laptops and cellphones and vacate their government office.

      • Miranda

        So now they are asking Darnell and Fred, fed employees in the mailroom for that building – about boxes. And Darnell and Fred cracking up right this minute.

      • nellcote

        and wipe the hard drives…

        • conlakappa

          I wonder if they’ll not scrub the cellphones like The Mack Daddy an’em did.

      • qosine

        Hit the road, Jack

      • Alma98


      • conlakappa

        If liking it was mean on your part, what does my forwarding it and pointing out that part say about me? I’m owning it!

    • GN

      I find it hard to believe that no one senior in that campaign understood the high possibility of Romney’s loss. I can understand working through that, grasping at any hope in order to stay motivated, but I flat-out don’t believe the claim that they were shocked and couldn’t have anticipated Romney’s loss. And the beltway media’s performance this election was HORRIBLE. Fact-free and mendacious.

      • White entitlement and arrogance adversely affects logic.

      • conlakappa

        I had to work with one of his foreign policy advisors recently. I wish I could find a clean phone or a reason to call him so that I could just laugh in his ear!

    • And to think, if Romney won, these same mofos would’ve been in his administration.


  • Miranda

    Pretty much:

    BasicInstinct responds:

    GOP Electoral reactions

    Bush 271 (via Supreme Court) = “MANDATE!”
    Bush 286 = “MANDATE!”

    Obama 365 = “KENYAN TYRANNY!!!”

  • rikyrah

    Better than 80/20 Latino Vote

    By mistermix November 8th, 2012

    Ho-lee shit:

    “For the first time in US history, the Latino vote can plausibly claim to be nationally decisive,” Stanford University university professor Gary Segura, who conducted the study, told reporters.

    According to Segura, the Latino vote provided Obama with 5.4 percent of his margin over Romney, well more than his overall lead in the popular vote. Had Romney managed even 35 percent of the Latino vote, he said, the results may have flipped nationally.

    The effect was at least as dramatic in swing states, most notably in Colorado, which Obama won on Tuesday. There Latinos went for the president by an astounding 87-10 margin, an edge not far from the near-monolithic support he received from African American voters. In Ohio, with a smaller but still significant Latino population, Obama won by an 82-17 margin.


  • qosine

    Joy Ann Reid: “. . . it’s like growing conservatives in this little terrarium . . . “

  • Alma98

    Good morning all!

  • Miranda

    Obama ally calls on business to pressure GOP

    By James Politi in Washington

    A senior Democratic senator and ally of President Barack Obama called on US business leaders to pile pressure on Republicans to make concessions on taxes in order to pave the way for a deal to avert the fiscal cliff and solve America’s debt problem.

    Speaking at a breakfast with reporters in Washington two days after Mr Obama’s re-election, Chuck Schumer of New York said on Thursday he welcomed an overture from John Boehner, the Republican speaker of the House of Representatives, who said his party was willing to accept new revenues in any budget agreement.

    more here

  • nellcote

    I really hope Plouffe writes another book on the 2012 campaign.

  • nellcote

    Ed Rendell argueing with JoyAnn Reid about AA “enthusiam gap”. LOL All the Eds on msnbc need a real long vaycay.

    • MsKitty

      Starting to hear that rumor again about Michael Nutter being appointed to a Cabinet post. If that happens, Fast Eddie’s bitterness level will hit DEFCON 1. Might stroke out if he ain’t careful.

      • nellcote

        I know he’s a big PBO supporter but how is Nutter as a mayor. I read conflicting things.

        • MsKitty

          As a Jersey observer, he strikes me as middle of the road. Decent enough, but has had a lot of skirmishes with the police and firefighter unions, respectively. Also not very popular with parents and teachers of kids in the public school system.

          Hopefully Isonprize can chime in because as a resident she has a whole lot of insight, especially about the school system.

          • conlakappa

            I don’t think our buddy prncs6 ever had anything good to say about him.

    • edp4bho

      Couple days ago he stated Pennsylvania was one due to increased AA turnout. Schizoid !!

      • conlakappa

        Hadn’t received his hater talking points yet so fell off message.

  • GN

    Bigot Pat Buchanan weighs in with his deep thoughts lol:

    Buchanan: ‘White America’ Died Last Night

    Conservative political pundit Pat Buchanan stoked controversy today by claiming that Barack Obama’s reelection has ‘killed White America’.

    But the former Nixon advisor was more explicit on the G. Gordon Liddy Show this morning. When asked for his reaction to Obama’s victory, Buchanan replied brazenly:

    “White America died last night. Obama’s reelection killed it. Our 200 plus year history as a Western nation is over. We’re a Socialist Latin American country now. Venezuela without the oil.”


    • nellcote


    • edp4bho

      Yeah !!

    • MsKitty

      He says that like it’s a bad thing.

    • Miranda


    • Alma98

      Yes Pat the browning of America continues and I loves it!!

    • goldenstar

      Ha, ha, ha!! Venezuela without the oil…and a bunch of privileged whites.

    • Mission Accomplished.

  • Miranda

    Afternoon thread is up!

  • GreenLadyHere


    — —After Stinging Loss, GOP Soul Searching Begins

    —– The GOP faces a bleak reality: the white, older voters it’s historically relied upon are on the decline. And if it doesn’t find a way to appeal to a broader tent of voters, the party could find itself in political peril. AP’s Kelly Daschle reports.(Nov.7)

    THIS COMMENT: – — –“After Stinging Loss, GOP Soul Searching”. Excuse me, but don’t you have to have a soul before you can do soul searching?– – — – -LOL!