December 21, 2014

Tuesday Afternoon Thread: Fewer Horses and Bayonets

President Obama responds to Governor Romney’s answer on military and defense spending.

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  • MsKitty

    Willard’s wearing that “uh-oh, I just crapped my pants” face at :40

  • GreenLadyHere

    Good Afternoon miranda/POU FAM♥ — – -***BIG HUG** —

    LOL — —ALLA deez: – –> Epic fail, Face CRACKED, Mittfail, – — Romney Shambles

    — – – -Annnd – – -THIS INFO – – -Obama’s ‘horses and bayonets’ debate comment tops Twitter chatter – —

    —- -President Obama won the night when it comes to memorable one-liners during Monday night’s debate.

    “We also have fewer horses and bayonets,” Obama said, responding to Mitt Romney’s assertion that the military has fewer resources now than at any time since 1916. “It’s not a game of Battleship where we’re counting ships,” a reference to the well-known board game.

    The topic was trending nationally within minutes, and also prompted multiple parody Twitter accounts, including one with more than 30,000 followers before the end of the debate, as well as a Tumblr.

    Twitter said the line prompted the debate’s highest number of tweets per minute, with 105,767 tweets at 9:45 p.m.

    — – – MR. PRESIDENT’S – —GOT IT!! — – -Woo! Hoo! :>)

    Good thread miranda. :>) —FIRED UP! —GOT-VOTE!!

    • Alma98

      UH-OH that’s my jam right there GLH, dancing in my chair.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY Alma98 ***BIG HUG*** :>)

        – –LOL- — -Glad I could help!! :>)- – –

        Good 2 C U alma. :>)

        • Alma98

          Good to see you GLH… (***HUGS***)

        • Alma98

          Good to see you GLH… (***HUGS***)

        • Alma98

          Good to see you GLH… (***HUGS***)

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Dumbass EmoProg/PL Tweet of the Day:

    David Sirota ‏@davidsirota
    Last night’s debate proved how much the candidates agree & thus how on many issues this election doesnt present a genuine choice for voters.

    • Miranda

      A great thing about PBO winning will be the complete marginalization of the emoprogs.

      • jds09

        I hope so, cause they are on my last nerve.

        Another benefit to PBO winning is that my white friends are seeing the double standard in technicolor and 3D. The shocked statements “Michelle could never get away with saying that!” or “How could Mitt be this popular?! He’s an empty suit!” Some days almost makes this bullshit “horse race” narrative worth it.

        As my Mama used to say, “black folks have to be twice as good to get half was far.”

        • Aquagranny911

          My last nerve has been totally shreded by those media trying to pimp their books & bodies.

    • qosine

      Sirota, call Nader.

    • Keithnohio

      If you consider Robme’s flip flopping, lying, and trying to appear moderate as being mutual on the issues then go right ahead Mr. Sirota. Maybe if President Obama’s skin was a little lighter you would have a different perspective. After last nights debate this should not be a close race. PBO should be winning in a landslide. Mitt Romney’s incompetence is so blatant it is ridiculous. What is the primary factor here that is so obvious? RACE!!

    • dannie22

      Last night’s debate proved what a total dumbass I am and that I know as much about foreign policy as Mitt Romney.

      I fixed it

    • rikyrah

      fuck him

    • Tafr

      Ahhh the truth hurt his fee fees. Well POU you hit a nerve telling the truth. These unicorn left assholes are living in a bubble. That is why you get idiots such as special Ed telling people not to vote then they try to blame the outcome on the president.

    • Admiral_Komack

      The stupid with this one is strong enough to raise a battleship, horses, bayonets, and all.

    • GN

      The only people who bought Mendacious Mitt’s performance last night are media whores like Chuckles Todd, GOP hacks like Joe S, and emoprogs. November 7, waving bye bye to these idiots.

    • gc

      Whatever Sirota is on, please send some to CT>

  • qosine

    Great title, Miranda!

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    I got the feeling that Paul Begala received a phone call from Team Obama.

    Axelrod: ‘We’ve Doubled Down’ In North Carolina
    Pema Levy 1:21 PM EDT, Tuesday October 23, 2012

    David Axelrod, adviser to the Obama campaign, said on MSNBC Tuesday that despite speculation to the contrary, the Obama campaign believes North Carolina is competitive and that the campaign is working hard to win there. “We’ve doubled down” in North Carolina, Axelrod said. “We’re bullish on the opportunity there.”

    MORE: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/axelrod-weve-doubled-down-in-north-carolina

    Messina: Obama Camp Not Pulling Out Of Any States
    Pema Levy 12:39 PM EDT, Tuesday October 23, 2012

    Jim Messina, Obama’s campaign manager, said that the Obama campaign is not pulling out of any battleground states on a conference call with reporters Tuesday morning.

    “We are tied or ahead in every battleground state,” he said, “and we’re not leaving any state where we’re tied or ahead.”

    MORE: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/messina-obama-camp-not-pulling-out-of-any

    • http://twitter.com/symmetry11 symmetry11

      I don’t know why they keep saying that the Obama campaign is giving up on NC. That is simply not true. I can’t travel there right now, but I continue to get calls to go there to help out. As a matter of fact, I just got another call during my lunch hour looking for volunteers.

      • conlakappa

        They really don’t get OFA and the amazing ground game. The Clinton-era folks thought the greatest thing since sliced bread was their war room. They cannot fathom an army of volunteers.

        • jds09

          And in their heart of hearts don’t believe in the power of community organizing.

          • Aquagranny911

            EXACTLY!!!

            People made fun of PBO as a community organizer but I think this is one of his greatest strengths. He knows how to organize on the grassroots level. He has done it with America and is doing it with the global community.

          • qosine

            Yes, that’s the long game.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Appeals court blocks Indiana defunding of Planned Parenthood
    By Charles Wilson Associated Press
    October 23, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    Indianapolis — Indiana can’t cut off funding for Planned Parenthood just because the organization provides abortions, a federal appeals court ruled Tuesday.

    The 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago upheld the core portion of a lower court order that said Indiana cannot enforce a state law barring abortion providers from collecting Medicaid funds for any medical services.

    From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121023/NATION/210230412#ixzz2A90zv3ye

  • MsKitty

    About time somebody’s telling the truth…

    The Liberal Media, in Love With Our Narrative

    But we are not driven by politics or ideology, really. Above all, we love a good story. Which, after all, is a very deeply ingrained yearning of the human race, isn’t it? Anthropologists will tell you it is what sets us apart from the beasts—after all, when’s the last time you saw a cat or a dog telling an anecdote at a cocktail party or reading a bedtime story to their offspring? Yeah, didn’t think so. We crave narrative. And let’s face it, the narrative of the 2012 campaign was a real dud. Incumbent president faces tough reelection environment but manages to hold onto slim, steady lead thanks to a just-enough recovery and a singularly uninspiring challenger. I remember being in a Dayton hotel the morning after Mitt Romney’s 47 percent remarks broke and watching the head-shaking reaction of Morning Joe and his crew: it left them with nothing to say. Which is a problem, because, well, they had many more weeks of needing something to say.

    But then: our mile-high salvation! Denver, O Denver. As the dynamic of the first debate began to register just a few minutes in—the crisp and hopped Romney against the wordy and listless president —we sang our relief across the Twitterverse. The true partisans among us, the Maddows and Sullivans, rent their garments, but most of us were barely able to suppress our glee: we had ourselves a story. Never mind that the debate had produced no great knockdowns, or that, as some noted in the days following, Obama had actually made a decent substantive case in some areas, if not others. No, we had our story.

    Go read the whole thing because it pretty much echoes what we’ve been saying here for months.

    • qosine

      The “liberal media” go with the “horses and bayonets” crowd.
      All they do is talk to each other and keep the think tank-book selling-conference hustle going.

    • Miranda

      Yep. all of this.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia
    • conlakappa

      Loved the use of Battleship because it worked on a couple of levels: (1) calling out cornballs like the Family Romney as likely the type who played it on game night/think it counts as military experience rather than (2) mentioning the game Risk, which is for the more high falutin and could go over the head of the low-information voter.

      • TyrenM

        Damn. I loved playing Risk as a kid. Thanks for that.

    • Ebogan63

      OK I am done.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Settlement Eases Rules for Some Medicare Patients
    By ROBERT PEAR
    Published: October 22, 2012

    WASHINGTON — Tens of thousands of people with chronic conditions and disabilities may find it easier to qualify for Medicare coverage of potentially costly home health care, skilled nursing home stays and outpatient therapy under policy changes planned by the Obama administration.

    In a proposed settlement of a nationwide class-action lawsuit, the administration has agreed to scrap a decades-old practice that required many beneficiaries to show a likelihood of medical or functional improvement before Medicare would pay for skilled nursing and therapy services.

    Under the agreement, which amounts to a significant change in Medicare coverage rules, Medicare will pay for such services if they are needed to “maintain the patient’s current condition or prevent or slow further deterioration,” regardless of whether the patient’s condition is expected to improve.

    MORE: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/23/us/politics/settlement-eases-rules-for-some-medicare-patients.html?smid=tw-share&_r=2&

  • Alma98

    Even though my husband still has his bayonet from the Marine Corps he found this hilarious lol.

    • Aquagranny911

      My Hubby got such a laugh at this too. He wondered if we should not dig out “Old Ironsides” from dry dock & “teach our new sailors how to really sail.”

      • Alma98

        I fell out laughing, and my husband is going to be rubbing it in at work today with the teapublicans lol.

  • Alma98

    The internets has gone crazy hahahaha!
    http://horsesandbayonets.tumblr.com/

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      LMBAO!

  • conlakappa

    Ah, so the word of the day is attack. Mittens used it last night at least twice and the headline for the AP/Yahoo! blurb is that the President keeps attacking. Get it? Oh, see it is subtle might slip past close observation and go right for the subliminal–attack, which rhymes with black, and, you know, conveys crim’nal behavior! Faux has taken an even less subtle, more D.W. Griffith approach and said that every woman has experienced that condescending look that the President kept giving Mittens. So, it’s attack writ large and as perpetrated by the Angry Black Man. Quick, hide your wimmins and your candidates!!!

    • MonieTalks

      white candidate is rude=passion
      black candidate rude=arrogance

      white candidate flip-flops, etch a sketches=good strategy
      black candidate has promise from 4 yrs ago unfulfilled=unworthy

      white candidate tells President wait your turn=assertive
      black candidate rightfully points out opponent’s military ignorance=condescending

      white candidate lies that President went on fundraiser after Libya attack=great zinger
      black candidate points out that he visited Israel as a candidate devoid of fundraisers unlike his opponent=big, bad attack

      white candidate smirking, uncomfortable and sweating bullets, underarms stank, white sideburns dripping=presidential
      black candidate managed not to cuss and call a mofo a mark ass liar at first debate=weak, lazy

      • BluMilw

        ALL.OF.THIS! Sending you all kinds of virtual high fives…

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    David Sirota blocked POU because of this tweet: http://twitter.com/PragObots/status/260793527829688321

  • rikyrah

    Nothing Is Foreign to the Liar Willard Romney Anymore: A Report from the Flippy-Floppy Final Debate of 2012
    By Charles P. Pierce
    at 1:11AM

    It was early in the proceedings here on Monday night when I was struck with a horrible vision. It may have been right about that moment in the final presidential debate when Willard Romney — who, for most of the past two years, has been the most bellicose Mormon since they disbanded the Nauvoo Legion — looked deeply into the camera’s eye and, inches from actual sincerity, said, “We can’t kill our way out of this mess.” Or, perhaps, it was when, in a discussion of his newfound dedication to comprehensive solutions to complex problems, he announced his devotion to “a peaceful planet,” or when he cited a group of Arab scholars in support of loosening the grip of theocratic tyranny in the Middle East.

    It was the horrible vision of John Bolton in four-point restraints.

    You have to give Romney and his campaign credit. They said they were going to do it. They telegraphed the punch five months ago. They told the entire nation that there would come a day in which everything Willard Romney had said about anything in his entire seven-year quest to be president would be rendered, in the memorable word of Nixon White House flack Ron Ziegler, “inoperative.” They told us quite honestly that their entire campaign was going to be based on an ongoing argument between the Willard Romney who ran for the Republican nomination and the Willard Romney who thereupon would run for president. They told us he would renege on his previous positions, and he has. They told us he would reverse his field over and over again, and he has. They told us that the only real principle to which the man will ever hold firm is that he will be utterly unprincipled.

    They told us that, sooner or later, everybody who supported him through the primaries because he was the only Republican candidate who didn’t sound like he belonged in a padded chapel would find themselves under the bus. And nowhere in his campaign was Romney firmer in his resolve than he was to a modernized version of the neoconservative agenda that so thrilled the world under the leadership of C-Plus Augustus. A full 17 of his 25 primary foreign-policy advisers had been deckhands on that particular plague ship, Sailing Master Bolton chief among them. And, at the end of the day, they all just turned out to be the last people to go sliding under the wheels. For the full 90 minutes of the foreign-policy debate at Lynn University here on Monday night, whether it was the president speaking or Romney, neoconservatism’s breath barely clouded the mirror.

    Read more: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/mitt-romney-foreign-policy-debate-14005209#ixzz2A9GucfUh

  • rikyrah

    Posted at 12:32 PM ET, 10/23/2012
    The Obama camp’s view of the race’s final stretch
    By Greg Sargent

    The Romney campaign has been admirably proactive in spinning the media to cover the race on its terms, whether it comes to the supposed “surge” he continues to enjoy (the race has stabilized) or the Obama camp’s supposed pulling out of North Carolina (which Obama aides flatly deny). The Obama camp has been comparatively quiet when it comes to pushing its own version of the race.

    That changed this morning during an Obama campaign conference call with reporters. Obama advisers made key points: Obama aides insist they are either tied or winning in all the battlegrounds — and that Romney has succeeded in locking up nothing. And they say the early vote continues to bode well for an Obama victory.

    “Anybody who thinks those states are in the bag is half in the bag themselves,” top Obama adviser David Axelrod said of North Carolina, Virginia, and Florida. “We have added millions to TV spending in each of these states. We are doubling down. We are not pulling back at all. We believe that Florida is an incredibly competitive state. North Carolina is a competitive state. Virginia is a competitive state. These are states Republicans were expecting to have wrapped up and they’re battling to hold on to them.”

    The polls suggest Romney is significantly ahead in North Carolina and is winning by a smaller edge in Florida. But the averages also suggest the race may still be a dead heat in Virginia — something that’s gotten lost in coverage of the race. That matters, since Romney may have to win Ohio and Virginia to win, and he’s leading in neither

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line

    • Town

      If Virginia weren’t competitive they wouldn’t have trucked in GOP operatives to throw away voter registrations.

      • conlakappa

        Just got a note from the Maryland OFA head as well as the neighborhood team leading asking for canvassers for all over Virginia this weekend, asking people to come in early on Friday if they must. Oh, yeah, totally thrown the towel in. /eyeroll to the point of injury

    • Ebogan63

      (which Obama aides flatly deny).

      Messina deined it, jackass. They have been ‘reletively quiet’ about their own version of the race is cuz they winning Greg, no need to spin like Rmoney, which you jackals happily lap up at every turn.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    So Think Progress is calling the Romney voting machine connection a “conspiracy theory”, too? No wonder Dems stay losing.

    ‘Think Progress’ Smears BRAD BLOG Coverage of Voting Machine Concerns as ‘Conspiracy Theory’

    Dem-advocacy blog refuses to correct inaccurate attack on us, Truthout, Forbes magazine, and even former Dem Sec. of State…
    By Brad Friedman on 10/23/2012, 6:05am PT

    On Monday morning, TP’s Aviva Shen posted an article headlined “Why Romney Isn’t Rigging Voting Machines”. Never mind the fact that neither Shen nor Think Progress have any idea whether Romney is or isn’t rigging voting machines — they present no evidence in the article either way — what is most outrageous are the factually inaccurate smears in the piece, in which The BRAD BLOG (with a link to this article responding to NBC’s Chuck Todd who made a similarly outrageous smear on Twitter over the weekend), as well as Truthout (with a link to this article reposted from FreePress.org by Ohio-based investigative journalists Gerry Bello, Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman) and even Forbes magazine, for chrissakes, (with a link to this this Rick Ungar article) are all called out, smeared in fact, by Shen and Think Progress as “conspiracy theorists”.

    The Truthout/Free Press article, as well as the Forbes piece, offer well-supported investigative journalism highlighting the ties between H.I.G. Capital and Hart Intercivic, the nation’s third largest voting machines company. H.I.G. Capital “acquired” Hart in a deal last year, according to the firm who brokered the deal. H.I.G., which is believed to stand for “Hart Intercivic Group”, is run by several very major Romney backers, former Bain employees, and is heavily financed by the investment group created by Mitt Romney’s son Tagg, with his father’s seed money and business associates. Moreover, as the journalists reported, several members of Hart Intercivic’s board (40% of the board, in fact) have made direct contributions to the Romney campaign.

    […]Before you read the emails between myself and TP’s Editor Legum, who stands by TP’s reporting, incredibly, please keep in mind that a) at some point during the day on Monday they quietly excised the reference to Ungar’s article at Forbes without explanation and b) later in the afternoon, after my email thread with Legum, Jennifer Brunner, the former Democratic Secretary of State of Ohio — whose landmark EVEREST study on e-voting in Ohio I cited in my Sunday article, and who I’ve interviewed on several occasions over the years (most recently in August here) — was interviewed about the very same concerns by MSNBC, who, she told: “I think you’d be right to call out Romney and his son for having a financial interest in this company. It doesn’t look good.”

    MORE: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9653

    • Miranda

      That Tagg Romney did not divest of his funds in this company is no conspiracy. There would be no “conspiracy theory” if he had simply done the ethical thing and divested and a simple statement released saying he has no financial connections to this company at all but noooooooooooooo……so “conspiracy theory” my ass.

  • rikyrah

    Ryan doesn’t understand what he doesn’t understand
    By Steve Benen – Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:36 PM EDT.

    I didn’t intend to return to the “horses and bayonets” story, but Paul Ryan’s bizarre confusion is worth considering.

    To briefly recap, Mitt Romney said “our Navy is smaller now than any time since 1917.” President Obama explained that the comparison doesn’t make sense, since our military and strategic needs have changed dramatically over the last 95 years. Congressman Ryan, meanwhile, is simply lost.

    CBS News’ Norah O’Donnell asked the far-right Wisconsin lawmaker about the exchange, and here’s how he responded:

    “To compare modern American battleships and Navy with bayonets, I just don’t understand that comparison. Look, we have to have a strong Navy to keep peace and prosperity and sea lanes open…. If all these defense cuts go through, our Navy will be small than it was before World War I. That’s not acceptable. And, yes, the ocean hasn’t shrunk.”

    Oh, for goodness sakes. I don’t know if Ryan is being deliberately obtuse or if the guy just doesn’t know what he’s talking about, but Obama isn’t comparing battleships with bayonets. If Ryan expects to hold national office in three months, he’ll need to be much smarter than this.

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/10/23/14646904-ryan-doesnt-understand-what-he-doesnt-understand?lite

    • nellcote

      And, yes, the ocean hasn’t shrunk.
      ===
      In fact it’s getting bigger due to global warming. So we need more ships!

      How’m I doing with gooper “logic”?

  • rikyrah

    October 23, 2012 12:28 PM

    Pricing Moderate Mitt’s Medicaid Block Grant

    By Ed Kilgore

    I found it very odd in the debate last night that in talking about how he’d pay for a defense spending increase (along with his tax cut) Mitt Romney singled out his Medicaid block grant proposal, almost certainly the most shameful part of his domestic agenda, but one that not a lot of people understand. For a moment I hoped Obama would go into Medicaid in detail, but instead he chose to make another important point, the vast size of our current defense budget as compared to that of every other country on the face of the earth.

    ……………………………..

    The Kaiser report notes that the destruction of ObamaCare that Romney’s is proposing as the first act of his presidency would itself cut Medicaid enrollment by 17 million people. Add in the effects of the block grant, even if you accept Romney’s assumptions on the ability of states to reduce costs, and another 14 million are likely dropped from the Medicaid rolls (if costs stay roughly as they are now, it’s more like 20 million). And that’s in order to provide a small offset against spending increases beyond current Pentagon requests, and a tax cut for the wealthy that the wealthy don’t need (on top of continuing the Bush Era cuts forever).

    more here
    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2012_10/pricing_moderate_mitts_medicai040682.php

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Don’t Believe the Hype
    Josh Marshall October 23, 2012, 1:02 PM 5454

    It’s nice to see that my friend Jon Chait gets what’s actually going on right now in the campaign. The Romney camp is trying to pull a classic confidence move to convince gullible reporters that their campaign is on the move and they’re confident of victory — despite the fact that the evidence suggests the race has stabilized or is even, ever so slightly, trending back to President Obama.

    […]Of course, this doesn’t mean Romney can’t win. He definitely can. Whenever the polls are this close, either guy can win. But the momentum is not on Romney’s side at the moment. They’re trying to punk reporters — thinking particularly of the Politico set here, and others who like to be punk’d — into creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    It’s already spawned classic lines like this one from Mike Allen in this morning’s Politico Playbook …

    President Obama won last night’s foreign-policy debate on substance, in snap polls and with the pundits, but Mitt Romney did well enough that for the first time in six years, Romney folks emailed, “We’re going to win.”

    Watch the polls and watch what each campaign is doing on the ground. Mainly, just watch Ohio. And most of all, don’t get played.

    MORE: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/10/chait_gets_it.php

    • Ebogan63

      And most of all, don’t get played.

      Take your own advice, Josh.

    • Kennymack1971

      “The Romney camp is trying to pull a classic confidence move to convince gullible reporters that their campaign is on the move and they’re confident of victory”

      POUers called this a while ago which is why handwringing and cowering is a gigantic waste of time.

  • qosine

    Conlappa, I was wrong about Josh and voting machines. It’s Tagg, like you said.

    • conlakappa

      That’s okay. As we have agreed, only 13 more days until we can both go, “who?” for the lot of ‘em!

    • conlakappa

      That’s okay. As we have agreed, only 13 more days until we can both go, “who?” for the lot of ‘em!

  • Miranda

    City mayors talk about post-debate spin
    MSNBC’s Thomas Roberts to Mayor Kasim Reed, D-Atlanta, and Mayor Scott Smith, R-Mesa, Ariz., about the spin following the third and final presidential debate.

    http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc/49520300

    • Aquagranny911

      I couldn’t watch this all the way through. Kasim Reed was great as always but the teapotty goatfigger Scott Smith makes me barf just to look at him. I could not stomach his BS.

    • Aquagranny911

      I couldn’t watch this all the way through. Kasim Reed was great as always but the teapotty goatfigger Scott Smith makes me barf just to look at him. I could not stomach his BS.

    • Aquagranny911

      I couldn’t watch this all the way through. Kasim Reed was great as always but the teapotty goatfigger Scott Smith makes me barf just to look at him. I could not stomach his BS.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    MEDIA ALERT!

    Mike O’Brien ‏@mpoindc
    MTV advises Obama will sit for a live, 30-min Q&A on Friday at 5 pm … when, you know, most 18 to 29-yr-olds are sitting there watching MTV

    • MsKitty

      Based on the shade on that tweet, it sound like somebody’s gonna have to miss happy hour.

      • macademic

        Does he really believe that people (esp. that demographic) are “sitting there watching” anything?? So… Mike’s never heard of Tivo, wonders what’s iTunes and don’t tell him you can watch the teevee on the interwebz too!

        Silly asshat… this ain’t even a trick. Throwing shade on PBO’s accessibility won’t make people forget how Willard ducked The View *and* Nickelodeon etc.

    • lamh35

      Actually yeah, it will be live at 5pm, but MTV will air it on all of their channels including their spanish language channel.

      Also 5pm is the time that young people are watching 106 & Park and the like

      so yeah, the younger portion of the 18 to 29 y.o. will have ample chance to see it.

      Shade missed by this journo.

  • Miranda

    Florida Democrats Request One Million Mail Ballots

    Florida Democrats will celebrate a campaign milestone today: getting their one-millionth voter to request a mail ballot for the first time.

    That’s a threshold Republicans crossed in 2008. Still, it’s already 160,000 more than Democrats requested four years ago and a bigger gain than Republicans expected. (Read more on that here.)

    more here
    http://go.bloomberg.com/political-capital/2012-10-22/florida-democrats-request-one-million-mail-ballots/

  • Miranda

    Wal-Mart Heir Donates To Obama PAC, Defying Rest Of Billionaire Family

    Is there a billionaire political battle brewing in the Walton family?

    Some might think so after the latest FEC filing for Priorities USA Action, a super PAC that supports President Obama’s re-election, showed that Sam Rawlings Walton, the grandson of Wal-Mart founder Sam Walton, donated $300,000 to the group last month. His generosity to the Democratic cause stands in sharp contrast to the political leanings of the rest of the Walton family, a group that includes six billionaires.

    more here
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/briansolomon/2012/10/23/wal-mart-heir-donates-to-obama-pac-defying-rest-of-billionaire-family/?utm_campaign=forbestwittersf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

    • Town

      Or, he wants to make sure Walmart has contributed to the winning side?

      Or, he knows if Romney gets in and cuts welfare and food stamps Walmart might as well just shut down?

      • dannie22

        There is a Walmart near me which stays open 24 hours. When it opened it was just regular day hours, but negroes love shopping there so much, they keep it open 24. If Walmart was smart, they’d donate as much as Adelson is donating to Romney

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    LMBAO!

    ¿ me ? ‏@jennysgay
    the way my dads watching the debate IM SCREAMING pic.twitter.com/TXhqjh77
    Retweeted by Theo67

    • Alma98

      LOL!

  • creolechild

    Bad News for Romney: Ohio Early Voting Turnout is Up for Obama, Down for GOP

    In a conference call with reporters Obama campaign manager Jim Messina dropped some devastating numbers on Romney. Messina pointed out that more people are early voting for Obama in 2012 than did in 2008.

    [….] He said Obama is winning early voting in Ohio, Iowa, and Wisconsin. Ohio early vote turnout is higher for Obama in 2008 than in Republican counties. He said that this election is more diverse. Most new registrants are under 30. 2/3 of those who have early voted are women, African-Americans, and Latinos. Democrats are winning everywhere where there are in person early votes.

    [….] He said there are 250,000 more registered African-American and Latino voters in Florida, and that overall early voting among African-Americans is up 50% over 2008.[….]

    Read more: http://www.politicususa.com/bad-news-romney-ohio-early-voting-turnout-obama-gop.html

    H/T Jason Easley

    • Aquagranny911

      Latinos…voting? Oh my, some POS over at TPV told me Latinos don’t vote. How am I to process this….

      • Ebogan63

        I was gonna send him to Ralston Reports, the guy who skooled his hero Nate Silver and correctly predicted Harry Reid winning over Sharrrrronnn Angle, while Nate didn’t predict shit, but I would only get ‘but the polls are correct’ bullshit from this idiot troll who I wish deaniac would get rid of.

        • Aquagranny911

          I’ve thought about flagging him but he is careful to skate close to the edge of the site rules. Deaniac has blasted him a few times in the past but hasn’t banned him.

          I’ve noticed that he comes into diaries & tries to get under peoples skin & dampen enthusiasm. Then he disappears & you don’t see him for awhile. I should have probably let it go but the constant BS in some places about Latinos not voting really gets to me.

          I’m busting my butt to GOTV & I just don’t want to deal with caca like this from someone who probably hasn’t walked for OFA or any Dem.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Here’s Trumps big surprise:

    Donald Trump to reveal ‘divorce papers of Michelle and Barack Obama’, claims respected financial pundit
    By Daniel Bates
    PUBLISHED: 14:16 EST, 23 October 2012

    Donald Trump is to claim that he has unearthed divorce papers of Michelle Obama and the President, according to a respected financial pundit with links to the tycoon.

    It is alleged that the eccentric real estate mogul will claim that the documents show the First Lady and the President were at one point in their two decades of marriage seriously considering splitting up.

    […]

    Douglas Kass, a Florida-based investor who appears on CNBC’s talkshow ‘Squawkbox’ where Trump is often a commentator, tweeted to his 48,000 followers: ‘High above the Alps my Gnome has heard that Donald Trump will announce that he has unearthed divorce papers between the Prez and his wife.’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2222070/Donald-Trump-reveal-divorce-papers-Michelle-Barack-Obama–claims-respected-financial-pundit.html#ixzz2A9cV0LbQ

    • MsKitty

      I just saw this on Twitter as the possible Trump scoop as well…

      A man claiming to be a close pal to President Obama during college made contact with Republican operatives recently, ready to go public with claims that Obama used and sold cocaine in college, RadarOnline.com is reporting exclusively.

      The operatives tried to spread the story through the media and the Romney campaign, a source close to the situation told Radar. Operatives close to the Romney campaign were contacted and rejected the information, the source told Radar.

      “They didn’t want anything to do with it,” the source said. “They thought it was not anything they wanted to be associated with or anything their candidate would want to be associated with.”

      http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/president-obama-sold-cocaine-college-trump-charges-republicans-reject

      Either way Trump is gonna come off looking really stupid, and I’m gonna enjoy every minute of it.

      • PBomb

        If you noticed on that same site, there is an article about Gloria Allred, trying to open up some sealed documents in a Boston Court tomorrow concerning Mitt Romney.

        Now Allred, is somebody I would be kinda of afraid of. Meg Whitman better warn Mitt.

        Even the cocaine dealing theory is stupid, that was well over 30 years ago.

      • Worldwatcher7

        What.a.maroon.

      • Alma98

        Hi, and my name is Wilma Flintstone.

      • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

        Didn’t Hillary try spreading that lie in 2008? It didn’t work for her then and it won’t work now.

    • PBomb

      That’s it.They may have wanted to file for divorce, but apparently, didn’t.
      So they are human and not perfect. We all knew that… Captain Obvious.

      OOOOOOHHHH that will destroy the Kenyan Muslim in Chief… ARGLEBARGLEBOO….

      Somebody, anybody please snatch that dead ferret off of Trump’s head, I think it is suffocating the last brain cell that he has.

      This is just going to piss people off.

      • Aquagranny911

        “Somebody, anybody please snatch that dead ferret off of Trump’s head, I think it is suffocating the last brain cell that he has.”

        I just spewed tea all over my computer, ROTFLMAO!!!

      • Worldwatcher7

        If the divorce papers story is true, the Obamas will be even more of an inspiration to lots of people. It would just prove that they were able to keep working through tough times.

        This would be especially funny coming from the often-divorced Trump.

        Try again loser.

        • jds09

          It will just make them more real, more accessible.

          • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

            And it’ll cause more women to be in the Obama’s corner.

      • BoomerGal

        “please snatch that dead ferret off of Trump’s head……”

        *DEAD*

    • Town

      Didn’t Barack & Michelle already say they had rocky times in their marriage?

      So Trump is mad that Barack got his divorce snatched back, but Ivana and Marla still collecting alimony checks?

      What a loser!

    • Alma98

      I’m with pbomb every couple has bad patches in their marriage. If true it just shows they worked on their problems, and stayed the course. Why does anyone listen to his rat infested head is beyond me. He’s not some great financier either, everything he touches turns to shit. It’s time for Trump to be taken down for good I’m sick of him.

    • Miranda

      He’s gonna get laughed at REAL BAD.

    • Tafr

      How many times as the idiot Trump been married? So what if the Obamas hit a rough patch, they are strong, they worked it out. You cannot say the same for Trump or half of the GOP for that matter.

    • rikyrah

      That heifer Jodi Kantor already told us that the First Couple underwent a rocky patch.

    • dannie22

      But what Trump didnt tell you was that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor!

    • Kennymack1971

      This is weak sauce. Married couple has a rough patch and came through it. Donald Trump is an idiot.

  • creolechild

    Temporary Employees Sue Wal-Mart

    A lawsuit filed Monday accuses Wal-Mart Stores and two staffing agencies of requiring temporary employees to show up early for work, stay late and work through lunch at the world’s largest retailer.

    The proposed class action, filed in a Chicago federal court, claimed that Wal-Mart and the agencies violated minimum wage and overtime laws, potentially affecting several hundred temporary workers in the Chicago area.Wal-Mart declined to comment immediately, saying it first needed to review the lawsuit.[….]

    Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/23/business/wal-mart-is-sued-by-temporary-workers.html?_r=0&adxnnl=1&ref=us&adxnnlx=1351022504-BjEI/ZXPNO/jBNwDxRznCw

  • GreenLadyHere

    mirandaz —[Apologies iff a dup]- —GOOD EARLY- VOTIN’ NEWS- –:>)- —

    – —Bad News for Romney: Ohio Early Voting Turnout is Up for Obama, Down for GOP - –

    – — -In a conference call with reporters Obama campaign manager Jim Messina dropped some devastating numbers on Romney. Messina pointed out that more people are early voting for Obama in 2012 than did in 2008.

    Messina laid out what early voting is looking like for the president right now. He said Obama is winning early voting in Ohio, Iowa, and Wisconsin. Ohio early vote turnout is higher for Obama in 2008 than in Republican counties. He said that this election is more diverse. Most new registrants are under 30. 2/3 of those who have early voted are women, African-Americans, and Latinos. Democrats are winning everywhere where there are in person early votes.

    Obama’s campaign manager explained why they think some of these polls are way off in the battleground states, “I do think there is some differences in states, we delve very deep into these states, and we think some people aren’t getting it right about who this electorate is going to be.” We continue to think the math has changed in Florida.” He said there are 250,000 more registered African-American and Latino voters in Florida, and that overall early voting among African-Americans is up 50% over 2008.

    – — THIS- ->New voter registration numbers in Ohio heavily favor Obama. Four in five Ohioans (81 percent) who have registered to vote in 2012 are either female, younger than 30, or African-American or Latino. 64 percent of Ohioans who have registered to vote in 2012, and the same percentage among those who have already voted, live in counties that President Obama won in 2008.
    THERE IS MORE. – – —Woo! HOO!- – –

    • jds09

      OFA has changed the game. PBO is a new thang.

  • sagittarius

    Afternoon, POU Fam!

    I hope all is well. As you know, I didn’t watch the debate… just hung out with you guys for a bit during the football game (Go Bears!). I knew from your comments that POTUS was on fire… if that small snippet above is just one of many examples of what happened, PBO cut Willard like he was slab bacon.

    • Alma98

      Afternoon sag!

    • Alma98

      Afternoon sag!

    • Alma98

      Afternoon sag!

      • sagittarius

        Afternoon, Alma!

    • dannie22

      hey Sag!! we havent seen Willard since lol!!

      • sagittarius

        Hey, Dannie!

      • sagittarius

        Hey, Dannie!

    • GreenLadyHere

      HEEY sag. ***BIG HUG**:>) Good 2 C U. :>)

      • sagittarius

        Heeey, GLH! **BIG HUG**

      • sagittarius

        Heeey, GLH! **BIG HUG**

  • Miranda

    I actually thought this was from the Onion until I went back and looked again on twitter.

    Ryan to Deliver Speech on Conservative Solutions to Poverty

    GRAND JUNCTION, Colo.– Just two weeks before voters cast their ballots, Paul Ryan will try out a new argument: The Republican ticket will do more to help the poor. He will spell out a conservative, non-government-focused model for addressing poverty.
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/paul-ryan-spell-conservative-solutions-poverty-speech/story?id=17546699

    • BoomerGal

      Wow! THIS oughta be priceless!

    • nellcote

      He needs to debate the Nuns On the Bus about poverty.

  • Miranda

    ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND I KNOW THIS WILL GO VIRAL!!!

    The Obama Diary‏@TheObamaDiary
    Note the lovin’ going on in the middle of the back row :-) http://barackobama.tumblr.com/image/34182577074 … #Obama2012 pic.twitter.com/dtSThHwu

    • itgurl_29

      Too cute!

    • PBomb

      How adorable!

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      LOL!

  • Miranda

    ROFLMAO

    John Kerry‏@JohnKerry
    wasn’t joking when I said I’d need exorcism post-debate tonight after months playing Mitt Romney cc: @stefcutter pic.twitter.com/vp24O8iK

    • Alma98

      LMAO! John Kerry is clowning Mitt big time. He’s getting his punches in for all the shit the repubs did to him.

  • Desraye

    I have seen the pictures from last night debates. The dress that Michelle worn was pretty. It was actually a old dress.I am sorry but I did not like Mrs. Romney dress. I have seen Oscar de la Renta designs and what Mrs. Romney had on last night does not look like anything that he designs.If Oscar trying throw shade at Mrs. Obama for not wearing his designs, he’s doing a terrible job . I know that we are supposed to listen to the candidiates, I just want express my opinion about what the spouse’s wore.

  • lamh35

    New Iron Man 3 trailer is out! What do ya’ll think???

    BTW, it comes out May 2013 here, not April. this is the “UK” trailer version

    • Kennymack1971

      This will be intense. It looks like Tony Stark will be put through the wringer in this one. Can’t wait.

  • dannie22

    just got back from canvassing my neighborhood. went into some apartment buildings and was able to reach some voters. not a bad afternoon.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda- — – Yaaaaa- – –REPRESENTIN’- -North Carolina- – -:>)

    – – –James Taylor Supports President Obama – OFA North Carolina - –

    – – –,B.James and Kim Taylor share why they support President Obama and what they’re doing to help re-elect him for a second term. Early voting has started in North Carolina, for all the information you need to get started, go to Vote.BarackObama.com: http://OFA.BO/hBWyZt– -[@A2 :>)]

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda—-[Apologies iff a dup]- – –DRUMROLL- – – – -:>)

    – – –Debate Ratings: 59.2 Million Tuned Into Foreign Policy Debate- – –

    – —There was a significant drop in audience between the second and third presidential debates, according to numbers released by Nielsen Tuesday. Around 59.2 million people watched Monday night’s foreign policy-focused debate on TV, down from 65.6 million who tuned into the townhall debate at Hofstra University, which focused more on domestic issues.

    More Americans watched Monday’s debate than watched the third presidential debate four years ago.
    THERE IS MORE.

    ‘CAUSE- — -SOME PEOPLE KNEW!! – —HE Di-ent- – -KNOW!! LOL- — –

    Annnd- — THEY WERE — -CORRECT!! LOL- – — – -HE — -A! – — -LOSER!! LOL

    [Gotta “hit da road.”- – -C U Soon] ♥

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda—-[Apologies iff a dup]- – –DRUMROLL- – – – -:>)

    – – –Debate Ratings: 59.2 Million Tuned Into Foreign Policy Debate- – –

    – —There was a significant drop in audience between the second and third presidential debates, according to numbers released by Nielsen Tuesday. Around 59.2 million people watched Monday night’s foreign policy-focused debate on TV, down from 65.6 million who tuned into the townhall debate at Hofstra University, which focused more on domestic issues.

    More Americans watched Monday’s debate than watched the third presidential debate four years ago.
    THERE IS MORE.

    ‘CAUSE- — -SOME PEOPLE KNEW!! – —HE Di-ent- – -KNOW!! LOL- — –

    Annnd- — THEY WERE — -CORRECT!! LOL- – — – -HE — -A! – — -LOSER!! LOL

    [Gotta “hit da road.”- – -C U Soon] ♥

  • Miranda

    Afternoon thread is up!

    • Miranda

      I mean evening!

    • Miranda

      I mean evening!

  • Miranda

    Afternoon thread is up!

  • rikyrah

    Posted at 04:18 PM ET, 10/23/2012
    Closing theme of Campaign 2012: Who can you really trust?

    By Greg Sargent

    A bunch of folks have argued that even if Mitt Romney lost last night, he did reassure voters by projecting a level-headedness that enabled him to pass the “commander in chief test.” I don’t know if that’s true — Romney seemed out of his depth in ways that might prove less than reassuring — but this misses something else about last night.

    Specifically, the Obama team hopes Romney’s performance — his dissembling about the auto bailout in particular — provided them with new ammo to undermine voter confidence in Romney. That ammo, the Obama campaign hopes, will help them make their final case against Romney, i.e, that he is fundamentally untrustworthy and that Obama is the one who can be counted on to genuinely look out for you.

    Obama, on the trail today in Dayton, Ohio, seized on Romney’s auto-bailout moment to broaden that case:

    Last night, Governor Romney looked you right in the eye, looked me in the eye, and tried to pretend he never said “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt.”…But the people don’t forget. The people of Dayton don’t forget. The people of Ohio don’t forget.

    If Mitt Romney had been President when the auto industry was on the verge of collapse, we might not have an American auto industry today. We’d be buying cars from China instead of selling cars to China. The auto industry supports one in eight Ohio jobs. It’s a source of pride to this state…I wasn’t about to let Detroit go bankrupt, or Toledo go bankrupt, or Lordstown go bankrupt. I bet on American workers. I bet on American manufacturing. I would do it again — because that bet has paid off for Ohio and for America in a big way.

    So here’s the good news. If you’ve come down with a case of Romnesia, and can’t seem to remember the positions that you’ve taken, not just four years ago but four days ago; if you don’t remember the positions on your website; or the promises you’ve made during the six years you’ve been running for President, don’t worry: Obamacare covers pre-existing conditions. We can fix you up! There’s a cure!

    Now, we joke about Governor Romney being all over the map. But it speaks to something important. It speaks of trust. There’s no more serious issue in a presidential campaign than trust. Trust matters.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/closing-theme-of-campaign-2012-who-can-you-really-trust/2012/10/23/10f0e49c-1d45-11e2-9cd5-b55c38388962_blog.html