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Tuesday Afternoon Thread: Fired Up! Ready To Go!

November 13, 2012 by 206 Comments

Rev Al talks to Edith Childs, the wonderful lady behind “Fired Up! Ready To Go!”

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  • GN

    He’s exactly right:

    @TheScottFinley
    A friend of mine who is conservative says that too much control of the GOP agenda by a few w/media control (i.e Fox) is killing them.

    @TheScottFinley
    Just as we on the left fight the same from our media. We have those on our side who try to do the same shit.

    *****
    Yup.

  • Miranda

    Exclusive: Lee Atwater’s Infamous 1981 Interview on the Southern Strategy
    Rick Perlstein
    November 13, 2012
     
    It has become, for liberals and leftists enraged by the way Republicans never suffer the consequences for turning electoral politics into a cesspool, a kind of smoking gun. The late, legendarily brutal campaign consultant Lee Atwater explains how Republicans can win the vote of racists without sounding racist themselves:
     
    You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites…. “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.”
     
    Now, the same indefatigable researcher who brought us Mitt Romney’s “47 percent” remarks, James Carter IV, has dug up the entire forty-two minute interview from which that quote derives. Here, The Nation publishes it in its entirety for the very first time.

    http://www.thenation.com/article/170841/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy#

    • GN

      Wow; one of the comments there is blowing my mind:

      DoremusJessup20:
      Earlier this year when Romney was running his welfare ads I saw David Gergen pontificating on CNN that he didn’t believe the ads were racially motivated. I started hounding him on twitter until he finally replied that he was a close personal friend of Lee Atwater but still wouldn’t acknowledge that the welfare ads were an extension of Atwater’s southern strategy.

      If I’m not mistaken Team Romney finally dropped the ads after Ron Fournier called them out in his National Journal article.

      The beltway media is beyond description at this point.

      • MsKitty

        Somehow I am not surprised about Gergen and Atwater at all. The Beltway crew may come across as adversaries on TV, but once the camera is off they shake hands and discuss where they’re going for happy hour. It’s all very incestuous.

        • conlakappa

          Gergen is and always has been R. He was just considered one of the reasonable ones and that seemed solely grounded in him working for Bill Clinton.

      • Camille

        David Gergen is one of the worst. A very sly, horrid man who pretends to be an honorable intellectual.

        I will never forget what he did during the debate between Scott Brown and Martha Coakley.

        He and Brown had obviously rehearsed some really contrived stuff:

        Davide Gergen: Sir are you saying that you will sit in Ted Kennedy’s seat and vote against Health Care reform?

        Scott Brown: With all due respect, it is not Ted Kennedy’s seat but the people’s seat.

        Ugh.

  • GN

    More national security leaks from the GOP:

    @iankatz1000
    Petraeus scandal gets more and more extraordinary: lover says CIA had secret prison in Benghazi http://bit.ly/UEaWxo

    • annvic

      *Kevin Hart voice* It’s about to go down!

    • AxelFoley

      My goodness, we got some freaks in the CIA gettin’ it on, and they ain’t leavin’ ’til 6 in the mornin’.

  • gc

    This is going to be short, since Lord knows if it will go through. I do not know what’s going on but I haven’t been able to use Disqus/POU for days. (I ‘ve also gone back to my NON political volunteer work – YAY – HOME**) So, I hope you are all doing great, and thank you again for, well….everything. I didn’t get emo on Election Night. It took a long time to sink in, but I now seem to have sudden, unexpected happycrying jags when I think of our POTUS. NAMASTE!

    • isonprize

      gc, it wasn’t just you. I could get the front page, but clicking on articles got a 404 error.

  • GreenLadyHere

    Good Afternoon miranda/POU FAM♥ – - – -***BIG HUG*** – -:>)

    Ohhhh — -Watched THIS. – –She is PRECIOUS!! :>) –

    Annn – –SHE B – —WEARIN’ – –DAT HAT!! :>) – –

    - – - –FIRED UP! – - –READY 2 Move – –FORWARD – - –> 4 da NEXT! – - – -4! — -YEARS! —MR. PRESIDENT!! – - – - -Wooo! Hoo! – - -

    BLESS U – - -Ms. EDITH♥!! :>) – - –

    THANK U —REV. AL♥!! — — -

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda- —–LOL —HERE WE GO – - –> – - -”PETRAEUS-GATE” – –

    – —Results for #Petraeusgate – - -

    - -☻-Dan ‏@dansterlace
    David, we aren’t telling you to resign for moral reasons. But you done botched junior varsity level secret-keeping. #PetraeusGate     -[LOL] – -

    — ☻ -Matthew Garrahan ‏@MattGarrahan
    Shouldn’t Generals Petraeus and Allen have been using morse code to send their racy messages rather than email? #petraeusgate     -[Seee ---LOL]

    – ☻The Mayor Daily ‏@THEMayorDaily
    So let me get this straight… you’re the director of the CIA and you couldn’t keep an affair quiet? No wonder he had to go #petraeusgate     -

    -LOL – –So MUCH 4 –INTELLIGENCE!!]

    - — -More L8R. :>) — -

    • isonprize

      - ☻The Mayor Daily ‏@THEMayorDaily
      So let me get this straight… you’re the director of the CIA and you couldn’t keep an affair quiet? No wonder he had to go #petraeusgate -

      THIS, this right here!! LOLOLOLOLOL

    • isonprize

      - ☻The Mayor Daily ‏@THEMayorDaily
      So let me get this straight… you’re the director of the CIA and you couldn’t keep an affair quiet? No wonder he had to go #petraeusgate -

      THIS, this right here!! LOLOLOLOLOL

    • isonprize

      - ☻The Mayor Daily ‏@THEMayorDaily
      So let me get this straight… you’re the director of the CIA and you couldn’t keep an affair quiet? No wonder he had to go #petraeusgate -

      THIS, this right here!! LOLOLOLOLOL

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM – — -Sorry gotta “bounce” — -MISSIN’ U/CARYIN U —IN MY ♥.] –

    – — – -JUST – - -GLOATING!! – - –AGAIN!! – –LOL – –

    – -
    Romney Had No Votes in Many Urban Precincts     – -

    – -YA KNOW — -WHERE da BLAHS — -BROWNS annnd OTHER POC’s R. — – -HAH!! – — -

    C U L8R. :>)♥

    • Admiral_Komack

      When it comes to the Republicans, the BLAH’s are invisible.

  • Miranda

    Damn…they cleaning house for real!

    General demoted for lavish travel, spending

    WASHINGTON (AP) — A senior U.S. official says Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has demoted the former head of U.S. Africa Command who was accused of spending thousands of dollars on lavish travel and other unauthorized expenses.

    The official says Panetta stripped Gen. William “Kip” Ward of a star, which means that he will now retire as a three-star lieutenant general despite some arguments against the demotion. Ward will also repay the government $82,000.

    more here
    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/general-demoted-lavish-travel-spending

    • Alma98

      Oh you know they were rooting PBO on election night lol.

    • qosine

      Like PBO says: “Everyone gets a fair shot. Everybody playing by the SAME RULES.” Ha! You didn’t think that meant YOU, did you Petreaus et al?

  • aleth

    I got news for Progressives — Van Jones and the rest

    SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! You ain’t getting shit the 2nd term

    You did nothing to get the President re-elected, throughout the last 4 years wer had to hear you whine. Well the silent majority has spoken including all those POC [you know the base]!!

    So fuck off!!! We are done. You were not OFA, DNC or Union.

    So fuck you and your opinions.

    I thought you were done with Obama and he sold you out and the rest… Watch ain’t nobody listening no more…. go draw a land in the sand in your ass.

    • Miranda

      Van Jones was on NPR yesterday claiming Occupy was the reason for the great youth turnout. SMH

      • GN

        omg.

      • aleth

        Wait he means the black youth which were the ones who turned out the most — I didn’t see no occupy folk voting… majority did not vote

      • Admiral_Komack

        Van Jones should occupy a rubber room, dressed in a blazer with wrap-around-sleeves.

        • Sophie Amrain

          A ridiculously overblown comment. Your fury has a very teabagger feel to it. Can’t we discuss different points of view? I did not follow Van Jones recently, but heard him speak a year ago – he was completely non emo prog and a serious voice, IMHO.

          • AxelFoley

            We got a new one, ya’ll. And I didn’t know trolls came in female form either.

          • Aquagranny911

            Not really a troll, Axe just maybe misinformed. She posts at TPV sometimes.

          • Alma98

            Thanks AG.

          • AxelFoley

            I gotcha, AG.

          • GN

            Sophie, I know you from tpv and respectfully disagree. Van Jones was indeed at one point a more serious and measured voice but IMO he’s fallen off.

          • Ebogan63

            When Van tells me what ever happened to green jobs, then I will be interested in what he has to say, and calling Admiral a teabagger is really beyond the pale and typical of emoprog cant. Sorry you really have to have a roomful of seats with that. People like Van talking that distorted nonsense get put on front street and blast ave round these parts.

      • Ebogan63

        He really needs to stop gettin’ high on his own supply.

      • Daltex82

        Wait, I thought those occupy people weren’t going to vote, were not going to register people to vote, didn’t even talk about voting and now President Obama’s victory is somehow because of their work?? Dude if you don’t sit yo’ ass down somewhere.

        • AxelFoley

          BAM! That’s right, they did say that. They did say they weren’t gonna vote and other stupid shit like that.

          And Van want us to believe they’re the reason PBO was re-elected?

          Child, please.

        • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

          Thank you! Van really needs to stop. OWS was a FAILURE while OFA, which EmoProgs/PLs tried to villanize, was a huge success and it hurts their soul.

        • Aquagranny911

          Occupy can bite the big cactus as far as I’m concerned when some of that bunch came to Tucson we talked to them about registering voters & their response was:

          “We aren’t interested in voting” Basic bunch of screaming, drumming, ignorant, privileged emus!

          • Aquagranny911

            And I will add when they disrespected John Lewis that sent my blood boiling and into orbit!

      • AxelFoley

        lolwut?

        Occupy ain’t accomplished shit.

        Damn, I can’t do nothing but laugh.

        Hol’ up–matter fact, didn’t Occupy basically tell Van to go jump in the lake?

      • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

        Who? Oh yeah those yuppies who took a vacation and decided to pollute Democratic cities by doing nothing and pretending they were actualy accomplishing something.

        Enjoy obscurity Van. You’ve earned it just like OWS.

      • Scopedog

        I wish I could laugh at this, but I can’t.

        Besides, I clearly remember many of those involved in Occupy being quite adamant that they were NOT going to vote, and being told by luminaries like Michael Moore that voting was a useless exercise.

        Youth did turn out–but I’ll bet that Occupy had nothing to do with it.

    • Sophie Amrain

      Van Jones is a progressive, and not of the professional sort. Quite unlike the firebagger crowd.

      • AxelFoley

        LOL, sure. Lay down with dogs, yadda, yadda, yadda…

        • Alma98

          Who the hell is this, are we being infested by dkos trolls?

  • GN

    President Obama has Repubicans boxed into a corner:

    @TheFix
    53% say they will blame Republicans in Congress if country goes over fiscal cliff, 29% would blame Obama. http://ow.ly/ffPYj

    • Alma98

      It’s always that same number 27 to 29% that blames PBO, the teabaggers.

      • 7thangel

        that 29% number seems to be a constant for everything in general too. 28%-30% believe *insert conspiracy theory here*

  • Miranda

    Pat Robertson Excuses Petraeus: ‘Here’s a Good-Looking Lady Throwing Herself at Him’
    Submitted by Brian Tashman on Tuesday, 11/13/2012 12:15 pm

    Yesterday on the 700 Club, televangelist Pat Robertson seemed to describe CIA Director David Petraeus as the real victim of the growing sex scandal involving him and his biographer, Paula Broadwell. He described Broadwell as an “extremely good-looking woman” who is a “marathon runner, she’d run Iron Man triathlons and so she’s out running with him and writing a biography,” and Petraeus simply couldn’t help himself: “The man’s off in a foreign land and he’s lonely and here’s a good-looking lady throwing herself at him. He’s a man.”
    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/robertson-petraeus-good-looking-lady-throwing-herself-him
    _____________________________________

    Oh, ok…so it looks like the right wing bout to excuse the “good decent” men cuz the women got those powerful “shut it all down if I wanna” va-jay-jays! Here we go y’all!

    • Alma98

      Whatever Pat, he’s a grown ass man but it’s her fault he can’t say no.
      And what if he chased her then what I can’t stand this old shoe.

    • GN

      He’s telling on himself.

      • conlakappa

        Wait, you think some of Pat’s side action is still alive?! But, yeah, I guess the woman threw herself at the general when he was naked/had his pants down. Lawsy knows hw the other woman lured the general.

    • Kadijo

      So GOP Mrs must expect this from supposedly christian men?

    • Admiral_Komack

      They’ve been doing this since this affair started.

      Petraeus is a fucking hound dog who got busted because two sluts wanted dibs.

    • Daltex82

      Pat is going to hit the bottom of Hell so hard it’s going to leave an indentation.

    • AxelFoley

      That old muthafucka–if it was PBO who got caught with some woman who wasn’t his wife, ol’ Pat and the rest of them would be calling for impeachment.

  • Alma98

    I love Edith!

  • Miranda

    Ok so maybe Paula had reason to think Jill was screwing her down low lover too. SMH…this is just bizarre.

    Gen. John Allen also helped Jill Kelley’s sister during custody battle
    By GEOFF EARLE, DC Bureau Chief
    Last Updated: 11:41 AM, November 13, 2012

    WASHINGTON — Both Gen. David Petraeus and Gen. John Allen intervened in the same nasty child custody battle involving Natalie Khawam, the “psychologically unstable” twin sister of Jill Kelley, whose bombshell claims of being threatened by Petraeus’ lover led to the top spy’s resignation last week, the Post has learned.

    Allen, the four-star general top commander in Afghanistan, was revealed last night to have exchanged thousands of pages of of emails with Kelley, who went to the feds after receiving threatening e-mails from Paula Broadwell, the married mistress of Petraeus.

    more here
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/battle_john_allen_also_helped_jill_YjkEYUNY2INC4smBMEYqUI?utm_source=SFnewyorkpost&utm_medium=SFnewyorkpost

    • Alma98

      They have their own prime time soap opera going on, just crazy.

      • conlakappa

        More like a telenovela, innit?

    • Worldwatcher7

      Imagine a mother mourning the loss of her son in Afghanistan reading this crap. Did these people EVER have their minds on the war?

      • Tafr

        This is why I find this entire mess utterly disgusting. Not only were they not thinking about these wars they were playing politics with their power. All those in uniform need to be knocked down in rank. Even if they are knocked down in rank they will still get a nice pension which they are not worthy of. Just disgraceful and disgusting.

    • AxelFoley

      I laugh when someone says the name of Patraeus’ other jumpoff because if I’m not mistaken, Jill Kelly (without the second e) is the name of a porn star. So everytime I hear Jill Kelley, my mind goes to the gutter.

      But ya’ll know I’m a freak like that. ;)

  • Alma98

    I hope the site doesn’t go down again it’s running slow as molasses.

    • qosine

      I had to clear out my cache several times. Now it’s going faster, Alma.

      • Alma98

        Thanks qosine, will try that.

        • Aquagranny911

          That worked for me too. I think after trying multiple times to get on the site yesterday it filled up the cache.
          Because I was not sure that the problem was not mine I also ran Ccleaner this morning.

  • Miranda

    *sips tea*

    Behind Petraeus’s Resignation
    November 10, 2012

    Exclusive: The resignation of CIA Director David Petraeus over an extramarital affair marks a stunning reversal for the longtime media darling. But some in President Obama’s inner circle are not displeased the neocon-friendly ex-general is gone, reports Robert Parry.

    The messy departure of CIA Director David Petraeus over an extramarital affair removes the last high-ranking neoconservative holdover from George W. Bush’s administration and gives the reelected President Barack Obama more maneuvering room to negotiate a settlement over Iran’s nuclear program.

    BEHIND OBAMA’S BACK: As Bob Woodward reported in his book, Obama’s Wars, it was Bush’s old team that made sure Obama was given no option other than to escalate troop levels in Afghanistan substantially. The Bush holdovers also lobbied for the troop increase behind Obama’s back.

    According to Woodward’s book, Gates, Petraeus and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman, Adm. Mike Mullen, refused to even prepare an early-exit option that Obama had requested. Instead, they offered up only plans for their desired escalation of about 40,000 troops.

    Read more: http://consortiumnews.com/2012/11/10/behind-petraeuss-resignation/

    • Kadijo

      I really feel that PBO wanted a last way of getting as many leader of Alquada in AFG as much as possible. So giving them the extra troops for a surge was a way of getting special forces to do that.

      • qosine

        I have to agree here. PBO said he was against “dumb wars,” and planned to end Iraq and surge Afghanistan, since Al Q was the original, necessary focus. Got Bin Laden, decimating AL q w/drones, and creating conditions in that area in best interest of national security + give people chance to emerge into better economy, while leaving them to self-govern. JMHO. Bernstein always undercutting PBO, like these generals can hold the CIC hostage. He’s a conservative who just doesn’t like neo-cons. Besides he’s been living off of Watergate for 40 years. JMHO
        I just feel PBO means FORWARD in a whole new way; he’s always outhinking me, that’s for sure.

        • Aquagranny911

          Spot on!

      • qosine

        I have to agree here. PBO said he was against “dumb wars,” and planned to end Iraq and surge Afghanistan, since Al Q was the original, necessary focus. Got Bin Laden, decimating AL q w/drones, and creating conditions in that area in best interest of national security + give people chance to emerge into better economy, while leaving them to self-govern. JMHO. Bernstein always undercutting PBO, like these generals can hold the CIC hostage. He’s a conservative who just doesn’t like neo-cons. Besides he’s been living off of Watergate for 40 years. JMHO
        I just feel PBO means FORWARD in a whole new way; he’s always outhinking me, that’s for sure.

      • qosine

        I have to agree here. PBO said he was against “dumb wars,” and planned to end Iraq and surge Afghanistan, since Al Q was the original, necessary focus. Got Bin Laden, decimating AL q w/drones, and creating conditions in that area in best interest of national security + give people chance to emerge into better economy, while leaving them to self-govern. JMHO. Bernstein always undercutting PBO, like these generals can hold the CIC hostage. He’s a conservative who just doesn’t like neo-cons. Besides he’s been living off of Watergate for 40 years. JMHO
        I just feel PBO means FORWARD in a whole new way; he’s always outhinking me, that’s for sure.

    • GN

      Camille was spot-on.

    • Worldwatcher7

      Sure, the neocons were undoubtedly plotting behind PBO’s back, but I don’t buy Woodward’s narrative that they were successfully manipulating him behind the scene. Candidate Obama was completely up front about wanting to escalate troop levels in Afghanistan before his 2008 victory.

      In my book, Bob Woodward belongs on the bitter has-been pile with Tom Brokaw.

      • Aquagranny911

        Woodward needs to soak his head in a bucket of caca. He’s another washed up has been still hanging on to the 1970′s.

    • AxelFoley

      Miranda, when you sippin’ your tea, do you have your pinky finger in the air? LOL

      • Alma98

        You’s a fool! hahahaha!

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    You betta go Jim Messina! Get yo’ luxuriation on, son!

    amy walter ‏@amyewalter
    Spotted at WH 2day, @Messina2012 says he’s going to “Italy & figure out how to become an expert in red wine” (per ABC’s Ann Compton)

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Pic of Jay Carney during the WH press briefing. He looks like he’s thinking, “If Tapper comes at me one mo’ time with his right wing bs….”

    http://twitter.yfrog.com/es57384870j

    • AxelFoley

      Carney: “Step to me. I WISH a Tapper would!”

      • conlakappa

        Carney, “The dim seems quite deep with this one.”

    • Aquagranny911

      Some day I just wish Jay would go in to the briefing room with one of those paint ball guns & just let those goatfiggers have a few blasts. Besides being messy those paint balls hurt when they hit. I want Tapper & Chuckie the toad to get one right in their ugly faces!

  • Miranda

    LOL….memo to Allen West: Not conceding doesn’t stop shit, mmkay?

    The West campaign continues to call for a total recount of ballots. Meanwhile, the declared winner — Democrat Patrick Murphy — attended freshmen congressional orientation in Washington, D.C
    http://www.cbs12.com/news/top-stories/stories/vid_3106.shtml

    • Alma98

      It’s high-top so move it along lol.

    • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

      I can see him showing up at the swearing in of the 113th Congress and the Sargent At Arms becoming absolute euphoric as he gets to use those long dormant close quarter fighing skills.

      BTW the way West is hollering Fox News must have told him that his qualifications do not suit their needs at this time.

      • Alma98

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMASPEAW55IV4QJGMDNXZL6R6Y udonthave2likeme

          Damn…I NEVER want to see our officials physically fighting

          • Admiral_Komack

            That’s why you shoot the bastard.

          • isonprize

            DAMN.

    • AxelFoley

      In other words, one monkey don’t stop no show.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Remember that Desiree Rogers/Black Elite gossip thread on LSA? Well, it’s back with more tea, and they’re discussing Cornflake’s bitchassness. One of the posters said Cornel was paid by Grover Norquist to call out PBO. I wouldn’t be surprised but still, I’d like to see some receipts/transcripts to verify.

    • goldenstar

      You really think that he would accept $$ from Norquist?

      • Worldwatcher7

        He would justify it by saying he had to take the devil’s money to do the Lord’s work.

      • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

        Anything’s possible, especially with Tavis whispering in his ear.

        • GN

          Don’t the firebaggers already have a semi-alliance with Norquist to audit the fed? Hamsher definitely was working with the teaparties to kill HCR (chipsticks posted an expose in which a teabagger was caught on tape admitting to working with Baby Jane). Heck yes I believe that West would work with Norquist. I want to see proof before spreading the word, but the scenario is definitely possible.

          • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

            Exactly! Plus, he has been silent about Tavis’ nefarious dealings with Wells Fargo.

          • Aquagranny911

            Hamsher was up to her neck with that & GiGi’s nasty little fingers were there, too. Deaniac wrote about this.

            I don’t know about West but he seems like a real opportunist who would not be above doing Norquist dirty work.

            West & Tavis both lost me completely when they started spewing caca on PBO. So I would put nothing past either one of them.

          • conlakappa

            It is always why none of these no-account fools will ever run for public office–they would not get the same consideration of the Romney Rule and would have to show their taxes/for whom they perform work. Is he still at a university? He would have had to clear getting paid by another organization through some conflict-of-interest office.

      • GN

        Absosmurfly. Not saying that he did (like Sepia, I’d need to see receipts for that one), but I definitely wouldn’t be shocked.

      • gc

        Norquist is a Poopie Head.

        No, I am not losing it (completely) Norquist accused Obama of treating Romney “like a poopie head.”

        This resulted in SUCH a cathartic laugh :) So, thank you, Grovie?

    • rikyrah

      not shocked.

    • MsKitty

      Corny looks like he’ll dance whatever jig you want him to for as little as a two piece and a biscuit, so I believe it.

      • AxelFoley

        Done. I’m done, dammit.

      • conlakappa

        But not a comb or a lintbrush.

    • Alma98

      As I said yesterday before the blog went pouf. My daughter was riding with a friend when Tavis came on the radio talking isht. My daughter said what the hell is he doing my radio I can’t stand him. Then her friend said ” I can’t stand him and the one with the teeth”. I fell over laughing, a lot of people don’t know who the hell he his.

    • AxelFoley

      Yup, I need a paper trail so we can rid him of any credibility once and for all.

  • GN

    Great news:

    Support For Repealing Obamacare Plunges To An All-Time Low

    As a new Kaiser Family Foundation poll reports, the majority of Americans don’t support repealing Obamacare. In fact, after the presidential election, the number of Americans advocating for a full repeal of the health reform law dropped to an all-time low at just 33 percent — compared to nearly half of Americans who would rather keep the law in place…

    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/11/13/1182431/repealing-obamacare-all-time-low/?mobile=nc

  • GN

    deaniac nails it again:

    A Message to Paul Krugman and the Prognosticating Left: Obama Won.

    …
    Let me be clear to all the political prognosticators on the Left: The President won re-election by ignoring your calls for ideological warfare, and he owes you nothing. This election was a resounding victory. But it was a resounding victory for the President, for the values that guide him, and for the governing approach he has taken – i.e. pragmatism. It was not a victory for ideological warfare, because frankly, Mitt Romney was a far better ideological warrior than President Obama.
    …

    http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2012/11/a-message-to-paul-krugman-and.html

    • aleth

      Twitted across the world… I am done with these folks. They didn’t do shit.. Never seen a group of people trying to claim credit for doing nothing

  • Aquagranny911

    MS Childs is a real sweetie & she does know hats!

    OT: But Hubby just contributed this little tidbit on the Petraeus affair:

    “In this case the privates were commanding the generals”

    • Alma98

      LOL.

    • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

      Somebody tweet that.

      • conlakappa

        That’s what they said!

    • Admiral_Komack

      I told my sister to tell a friend of ours who is in the military “Make sure his soldier stays in the barracks!”

  • RinaX

    So my mother wants to go the Inauguration in January. I was wondering, what are the best areas to stay as far as hotels? I’ve already emailed Corrine Brown for tickets (long shot).

    • isonprize

      You may need a ‘hook up’ for a hotel room. Room are either sold out or the rates for what is left has skyrocketed. I’m hearing upwards of $1000 a night.

      • RinaX

        Yeah, I was checking out a few, and yeesh. We might have to chill and watch it on TV again. I do want to make it to Washington before his term is up, though.

        • Aquagranny911

          I don’t know where you live but my Sis suggested we try to make it a “day trip” but we are old, live in AZ, & she is just a little loco sometimes.

          • Alma98

            LOL!

      • MsKitty

        Sad, but true. I know some folks who were looking at rooms about 6 months ago and the inventory was tight even then.

      • GN

        Yup, I got a couple of marginal rooms (but great location) for twice what they’re worth in September, and that hotel has since sold out, so I can just imagine that rates have gone up and availability has gone down since then.

        • conlakappa

          But with the enthusiasm gap and all?!

    • Aquagranny911

      You might consider this. Some private homes may be renting out rooms or their apartments. There is an online source for this but I can’t remember the name. Don’t know if you want to do something like that but it is a thought.

      • RinaX

        We talked more, and both of us realized that we will most likely be a little short on expendable funds after Christmas for a bit, so not the best time to plan a trip. It would have helped if she’d expressed interest a few months ago, could have planned for it. I know I don’t want to drive all the way there, back, and have to go to work in the morning (from Fla) so that’s out.

        Thanks, all.

        • conlakappa

          Tickets to visit the White House are obtained through the offices of your members of Congress. Contact Brown’s office as well as your senators for a date in the spring.

  • Miranda

    Jill Kelley reaaaaaalllly didnt think it through when she decided to clap back on Paula via that FBI agent huh? She bout to be on full blast. Paula was screwing ONE general, but looks like Jill may have been THAT chick at Macdill! Aaron Spelling couldn’t think up one as good as this!
    _________________________________________________

    Kelley has described Petraeus as being like a grandfather to her family, the Tampa Bay Times reports. But her relationship with the general was close enough to prompt emails from Broadwell telling her to back off. And CNN reports that Broadwell’s emails warn Kelley about leaving a number of generals alone, not just Petraeus.
    http://obsdailyviews.blogspot.com/2012/11/jill-kelley-victim-in-petraeus-affair.html#storylink=cpy

    According to a source with knowledge of the e-mails, the messages accused Kelley of untoward behavior with some generals at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Florida where Kelley did volunteer work.
    The e-mails detailed the “comings and goings of the generals and Ms. Kelley,” said the source, who declined to speak on the record because of sensitivity of the investigation.
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/12/us/petraeus-cia-resignation/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

    • rikyrah

      this is hilarious

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      Broadwell had some nerve threatening Kelley over someone else’s but game recognize game, and she knew ol’ girl was up to no good.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMASPEAW55IV4QJGMDNXZL6R6Y udonthave2likeme

        But she also outted herself. Never EVER do that…lol

    • AxelFoley

      Seems like there’s not much difference then between Jill Kelley and Jill Kelly the porn star then. I wasn’t that far off the mark with my earlier post. ;)

    • Admiral_Komack

      Talk about being a star fucker…

    • Alma98

      This comment over at wonkette had me lmao.

      Why is the FBI investigating what amounts to and Archie/Betty/Veronica love triangle?

  • Miranda

    Jill Kelley reaaaaaalllly didnt think it through when she decided to clap back on Paula via that FBI agent huh? She bout to be on full blast. Paula was screwing ONE general, but looks like Jill may have been THAT chick at Macdill! Aaron Spelling couldn’t think up one as good as this!
    _________________________________________________

    Kelley has described Petraeus as being like a grandfather to her family, the Tampa Bay Times reports. But her relationship with the general was close enough to prompt emails from Broadwell telling her to back off. And CNN reports that Broadwell’s emails warn Kelley about leaving a number of generals alone, not just Petraeus.
    http://obsdailyviews.blogspot.com/2012/11/jill-kelley-victim-in-petraeus-affair.html#storylink=cpy

    According to a source with knowledge of the e-mails, the messages accused Kelley of untoward behavior with some generals at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Florida where Kelley did volunteer work.
    The e-mails detailed the “comings and goings of the generals and Ms. Kelley,” said the source, who declined to speak on the record because of sensitivity of the investigation.
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/12/us/petraeus-cia-resignation/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    According to The Hill, Plouffe, Axe and Messina are leaving..

    “David Plouffe, a senior adviser in the White House, is expected to depart the halls of the West Wing in the coming months, sources say.

    David Axelrod, the senior strategist on the Obama campaign and the political adviser closest to the president on a personal level, will be largely focused on the creation of a new politics institute at the University of Chicago.

    And Obama campaign manager Jim Messina, who served as a White House deputy chief of staff for operations prior to leaving for Chicago, is unlikely to return to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.”

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/267469-key-advisers-poised-to-leave-team-obama

    http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q615/sepiaobot/cry11_zpsc138947e.gif

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      But Valerie Jarrett is here to stay!

      “The changes will deprive the president of several of his most loyal and trusted political advisers in the West Wing, with the exception of senior adviser Valerie Jarrett, Obama’s longtime friend and confidante. Jarrett said that she will be back in a second term if the president will have her, adding, “We all serve at the pleasure of the president.””

      http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q615/sepiaobot/jarrett_hihaters.jpg

      • AxelFoley

        Val is like Joe–ride or die.

        • Aquagranny911

          Val is a jewel! I would be really upset if she was not planning to stay. She is familia.

    • gc

      I will miss them terribly, but they have my utmost admiration and respect. Best of luck, Gentlemen. Forgive the cliche, but a grateful nation thanks you.

      • AxelFoley

        Indeed.

    • GN

      Ditto re: g’s gratefulness. So grateful for what they’ve done for the country.

    • Alma98

      Awww I will miss them, they will be remembered as one of the greatest if not greatest political teams ever. I thank them for their service and wish them nothing but the best.

      • Aquagranny911

        Ditto!

      • Daltex82

        ICAM!

    • sagittarius

      David Axelrod is heading up the Institute of Politics at U of C. A few jobs in this newly created department were posted and I submitted my resume a couple of months ago.

      • Alma98

        Keeping fingers and toes crossed for ya Sagittarius.

      • MsKitty

        Good luck

      • Aquagranny911

        WOW! Best of luck on this, Sag! I will be keeping all positive thought for you.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMASPEAW55IV4QJGMDNXZL6R6Y udonthave2likeme

        Good Luck sis!!! One of those positions is your. I am claiming it for you.

      • qosine

        Good luck, sagittarius. Sounds really interesting!

      • MonieTalks
      • dannie22

        GOOD LUCK MY FRIEND!!!

      • sagittarius

        Thank you, Fam, for your prayers and well wishes. I really appreciate them. In addition to the Institute of Politics, I have applied for quite a few openings, including a great one, Dannie, that is in OH.

        I also had a telephone interview today – it went well and the organization may be willing to increase the compensation because it is substantially below my last salary. If offered, there is no way I can accept the job for the money currently on the table – I would be in the hole before I start.

        I have already claimed my next fabulous career opportunity – let’s see what the Father has planned.

        • GreenLadyHere

          HEEY sagittarius. ***BIG – - -BLESSINGS – - -HUG**

          The LORD WILL PROVIDE!!- —

          - — -YOUR HELP COMES FROM HIM!! :>)- –AMEN. :>)

          B BLESSED. :>)

          • sagittarius

            Thanks, GLH **BIG HUG**

        • dannie22

          its gonna happen for u dear!! a great job in a great location!

        • Admiral_Komack

          Good luck, Sag!
          Go for it!

    • Aquagranny911

      These guys all deserve a good rest & to get on with their own lives & dreams but I just bet they will be willing to help & advise for 2014. Even if they don’t play an active role.

    • dannie22

      they tired

    • BoomerGal

      I hate to see them go. They are some baaaaad m$%^&r f$%^&*s!!!

  • rikyrah

    The bogus, baseless case against Susan Rice
    By Steve Benen
    Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:24 PM EST.

    We talked earlier about potential changes in President Obama’s cabinet, and the multiple reports that he wants to nominate U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice to replace Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State. Republicans, for strikingly inane reasons, aren’t impressed.

    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) has taken the lead in criticizing Rice, making vague accusations about her comments the week of the Benghazi attack. Today, Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) joined him, characterizing Rice’s actions as “beyond belief.”

    Actually, what’s beyond belief is this ridiculous smear campaign. Kevin Drum had a terrific piece on this.

    The Republican freakout over Benghazi has been shameful, and their insane scapegoating of Rice’s appearances on the Sunday chat shows a week after the attacks has been doubly so. Republicans — aided and abetted at times by reports in the mainstream media — decided to pretend that Rice had blamed the Benghazi attack entirely on a YouTube video, which they took as dark evidence of a coverup designed to protect Obama. But the truth is that Rice flatly did nothing wrong, a point that bears repeating. She did nothing wrong. [...]

    Graham and the rest of the Republican caucus appear to still be in election season attack dog mode, and it’s time for this to stop. They have every right to investigate Benghazi, which might very well have been handled poorly in some respects and which might have been a case of poor anticipation of an attack that should have been expected. But Rice’s conduct was fine. She very carefully, and very professionally, passed along what was, at the time, the considered judgment of the intelligence community.

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/11/13/15141869-the-bogus-baseless-case-against-susan-rice?lite

    • GN

      Really glad to see people pushing back against the far right’s garbage. Susan Rice has been amazing.

    • gc

      I was so wrong. I thought America would be more, well, honest, after the election.

      Oh well, morons, dig yourself a BIGGER fucking Hole of Irrelevance.

  • GN

    This is so true lol:

    @ReignOfApril
    One week ago today: Karl Rove & Mitt Romney thought they had it in the bag. Axe & Plouffe were quietly confident. And POTUS was hoopin. #p2

  • GN

    PoliticalWire:

    “I think that there was a period of time when the Romney campaign was falling apart, people were not optimistic, nobody thought there was a chance of victory and I felt that it was my duty at that point to go out and say what I said.”

    – Dick Morris, in an interview on Fox News, explaining why he predicted a landslide for Mitt Romney in the presidential election.

    http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/11/13/bonus_quote_of_the_day.html

    • Kennymack1971

      BWAH HA HA.

    • AxelFoley

      LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

      I can’t do anything but laugh at that toe sucker.

    • conlakappa

      Eat a toe, Dick. Your story keeps changing.

  • Admiral_Komack

    Excuse me.
    I don’t know who you are, but let me clear something up for you real fast:
    I am a Democrat.
    I want people who need help and assistance to get it.
    I have low to no tolerance for vapid fools like you and Van Jones who want to play revolutionary.

    That being said…Toodles.

    (Response to Sophie Amrain)

    • qosine

      Yes.

  • GN

    Wow; the following is a *beautiful* humbling account from a TOD lurker, who literally traveled from Germany (!) to help with the elections, and who encountered British and Scandinavian volunteers who had done the same thing:

    It´s exactly one week ago that PBO was reelected and it´s 3 days ago that I returned to Germany from a short “election-trip” to the States. I just had to be there, I just had to do something- at least I wanted to try. That´s why I took some days off, booked a flight to Chicago and contacted the local Obama campaign bureau.

    I just asked, if they could need some help for example canvassing in Wisconsin or Iowa. I was a bit reluctant because I thought somehow ..it´s not my affair, it´s not my election, I´m just a crazy foreigner – though it all ment so much to me. And I was just overwhelmed how open-minded and how friendly everybody was. They said of course I´m welcome and they appreciate my help.

    I took part in weekend trips to Iowa on Saturday and Sunday – and was impressed, how many people boarded the bus at 7 in the morning to go to Muscatine and Dubuque knocking on doors. There was a man who told me, that he had never done this before but now he was getting nervous. And there was an old woman with a rolling walker who wanted to do something, too. And I was deeply touched by an old man who said, that he had some problems, because he needed to go to the toilet quite often – and this was a problem, while he was out knocking on doors. Fortunately there was a hospital nearby so he could get some relief. I was deeply impressed, that this man in spite of his problems just had this inner voice that told him, that he had to go out and get involved! So much enthusiasm! And even while knocking on doors myself and talking to people I never had the feeling of being an outsider, although my English is not perfect and with an accent.

    And of course I hesitated to tell my “personal” story, when I met undecided voters – well that didn´t happen too often, anway. In Dubuque finally I met a young British guy who had been volunteering for 4 or 5 weeks for the Obama campaign , organizing all there was to do. And he told me, that the day before there were also some people from Scandinavia helping. So I was not the only crazy person! I have never been campaigning for any politician, and I probably will never do that again, neither in Germany nor in the United States. But this was a once in a lifteime experience – and I did it, because I just couldn´t stand the idea, that the fist black President was elected off not even 4 years after his inauguration – not after all he had done , not after he has worked off his ass (sorry)! No !

    And the American President is the leader of the free world and important for the whole world. And peronally for me .. he is a constant source of inspiration, with his decency and his attitude … and .. well you know. Well after all..it was a wonderful experience, I was able to witness election night in McCormick Place – as I got a ticket after the canvass-trips. I always thought, the moment, CNN would come out with the breaking news would be like … the decisive penalty in a soccer final.. but no. It was much deeper..and it took much longer, untill this big relief finally got to my soul.

    But I will especially never forget these two days in Iowa – and all the people I met there. And though I´m not an American I really liked Obama’s words on election night that characterized the American people best: “What makes America exceptional are the bonds that hold together the most diverse nation on Earth — the belief that our destiny is shared; that this country only works when we accept certain obligations to one another, and to future generations..” and so on.

    You don´t have to speak the language perfectly, you don´t even have to be an American, you are accepted anyway – that´s what I felt these days. I am very jealous on that fundamental philosophy – unfortunately we are far away from that in Germany ( but I promise to work on it). ..and I´m glad to keep your President as a source of inspiration for another 4 years .. and of course this blog as well.. I´m usually just lurking . So thank you all very much – and keep on going forward!

    http://theobamadiary.com/2012/11/13/heads-up-jay-carneys-press-briefing-8/?replytocom=563663#respond

    • dannie22

      Our OFA office had a students from Germany, England and i think South America. Young, hardworking individuals who went canvassing in the hood helping us GOTV!

      • GN

        I’m trying to wrap my mind around the beauty of a human spirit which would travel here to help Americans like this (and *massive* respect to OFA for how easy you guys make it for anybody to jump in and help at any time). I know that it’s not unprecedented, but the enormity of last week’s accomplishment and how many diverse people are responsible for it is really hitting me. Really special time.

        • dannie22

          well GN, the human spirit can be a beautiful thing. then again, if i thought the repub candidate might embroil my nation in world wars if he became president, i might fly to america and knock on a few doors too!

        • conlakappa

          We had a high schooler exchange student from Australia making calls. Somene else’s friend visited from Australia and a German reporter stopped by.

    • Aquagranny911

      I am sobbing after I read this…no words…

    • BoomerGal

      How gracious. I love Europeans and they obviously love us.

    • rikyrah

      this was so wonderful.

  • MsKitty
    • AxelFoley

      Oh, my damn.

      *bows at MsKitty’s feet*

      I’m not worthy. I’m not worthy.

      • GN

        lol!

    • Admiral_Komack

      Thank you.

    • Kennymack1971

      Thanks a million!

  • Aquagranny911

    Okay this post is for POU women only!

    Men are enjoying this Petraeus BS way too much. Hubby just left to get his flu shot & these were his parting words:

    “I’ll be back soon unless the nurse also offers me some of what the General got.”

    I’m going to soak my feet in ice water & when he gets in bed tonight I will freeze his ass!

    • GN

      /dead at both of you

    • Alma98

      HAHAHAHAHA!

    • dannie22

      LMAO!!

    • Daltex82

      LOL!!

    • gc

      My husband compared the appearances of Mrs P to Ms Hooker. I could have choked him.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMASPEAW55IV4QJGMDNXZL6R6Y udonthave2likeme

        I am just not feeling the hate for Mrs. P. she is the victim here. And she put in 38 yrs with that low down dirty dog.

        • gc

          None of us are I would imagine. I was just bellowing “Rolling in the Deep.” What pisses ME off is the attention this story gets. Only one story in MY mind at this moment – we have another four years!

        • malletgirl02

          While I feel bad for Mrs. Petreus, I feel that in the end she will be fine. While her husband’s career is going down the tubes, she still has her upper level job in the Obama administration.

  • GN

    Susan Rice for SoS partisans, looks like she’s still on top! :-)

    @Mosheh
    WH sources telling @CBSNews Bill Plante that Obama’s first choice to replace Hillary Clinton at Secretary of State is still Susan Rice

    • dannie22

      that makes me very happy. i really admire susan rice

    • BoomerGal

      That’s if she get confirmation. One of those repug senators said they wouldn’t make it easy b/c they think she is behind the incident in Bengazi.

      • GN

        The GOP will troll any nominee.

      • Ebogan63

        They cashin’ checks they asses can’t cash, they lost 2 senate seats. PBO still having her on board is a big F U to Lindsey Graham and his bullshit.

        • Aquagranny911

          Plus there are Repug Senators who will get kicked so hard they will be breathing on their own nuts in 2014 if they don’t get on board and start doing their jobs. People are sick & tired of the constant BS.

          The goatfiggers know this even if they still have to talk all tough & act like fools for the media.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda- — -LOL- — -Jus’ CAIN’T STOP!!- — –GLOATIN’ — -Now we’ll PICK on

    da PUNDITS!!- – - — – -ROLL CALL!!- –LOL

    - —Pundit Shaming- -

    - – –BWAHAHAHA- — – – ->“I’m doubling down. Mitt Romney will win the presidency, and it won’t be close.

    “I’m predicting a 5 to 7 point popular vote victory. Electorally it won’t even be that close. Romney will win many states that went to Obama in 2008. I’m predicting Romney victories in Ohio, Florida, Colorado, Virginia, Iowa, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, North Carolina, and Indiana. I predict a Romney victory by 100 to 120 electoral votes.

    - – –SNIP — -
    THIS ONE – - – ->“This election will not be close. That was my prediction last May when the shape of the presidential campaign became clear and it is my prediction now. While the media and pundits continue to muddy the water with claims and counter-claims feeding a conventional wisdom that this race will be a nail-biter, the reality is that historical facts and strategic blunders long ago doomed Barrack Obama to a single term…

    - – -Annnnd – - -HE! GOT! PAID! – - – -BIG $$$$$!! LOL- –

  • Miranda

    Evening thread is up!