July 30, 2014

Tuesday Afternoon Thread: Juneteenth!

Juneteenth: A Celebration of Freedom (PBS Documentary trailer)

Juneteenth is the oldest known celebration commemorating the ending of slavery in the United States. Dating back to 1865, it was on June 19th that the Union soldiers, led by Major General Gordon Granger, landed at Galveston, Texas with news that the war had ended and that the enslaved were now free. Note that this was two and a half years after President Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation – which had become official January 1, 1863. The Emancipation Proclamation had little impact on the Texans due to the minimal number of Union troops to enforce the new Executive Order. However, with the surrender of General Lee in April of 1865, and the arrival of General Granger’s regiment, the forces were finally strong enough to influence and overcome the resistance.

  • Miranda

    I really wish I could find video of this!

    Lubbock youths honor African-American history at poetry slam for Juneteenth

    Those attending a poetry slam also got a lesson in African-American history and culture.
    http://lubbockonline.com/local-news/2012-06-14/lubbock-youths-honor-african-american-history-poetry-slam-juneteenth

    • Aquagranny911

      Surely somebody took video…a parent, a teacher, a student…I would like to see that.

  • Bri

    We come from the greatest group of people to ever walk this earth. They were strong and determined. I will forever be grateful for their courage.

    • gc

      Shout-out to the organizers and runners of the Underground Railroad. We have stops up here in CT.

      They humble me.

      • edp4bho

        I used to work at what was known, in my former small Philly suburb of Darby, as Bunting Frienship Freedom House. It was a way station for those fleeing bondage in route more north. For years it stood vacant after the one person who cherished it aged out. It was to my dismay to find only recently that the building was razed- this from a lack of care by the blacks in town, which has had a black mayor and council president for a few years now, and whose families are of the many old-guard families there. We really need to step up.

        • gc

          That saddens me. We live near a town that has a great deal of connection with the Amistad story, and we celebrate it. Maybe it’s just a revenue /tourism underpinning, , but it is the right thing to do nonetheless.

          • edp4bho

            Revenue/tourism. Exactly. Except, apparently no one thought it was worthy of a legacy to the Philly area’s black and white joint history. Right now in Philly, there seems to be one woman piloting a find drive to save Marian Anderson’s home as a continuing historic museum. and just since Joe Frazier passed, has the talk grown of restoring his boxing gym from its current use as a retail facility. Before now, all I’ve been hearing is why do we have a fictional “Rocky” statue instead of one of a real live boxer? Yep, cause black folks sitting around waiting for someone else to do what needs to be done. One dollar per citizen, we could have had his greatness in granite years ago. So far Paul Robeson’s house is still in standing as a historic monument. Thanks for small blessings, right?

          • edp4bho

            “find” should be “fund”..

          • gc

            Did I mention this town is very white (I think you know I am as well) What is especially marvelous is the mixed crowds such historic sites draw in. We are supposed to retire to the desert someday, but there are times I feel so good about my state. I’ve been to Philly. A whole lot of statues and murals of white men signing stuff :) You mentioned Robeson and my eyes moist. Ol Man River – the best 10 minutes in Broadway history

          • edp4bho

            :-) I know you’re a righteous caucasion sister. Yep, we have a lot of statues of whites, but there’s aboslutely no reason black folks can’t put up statues of black folks. When I think of all the wealthy folk who came from Philly- Will Smith, Bill Cosby, Patti Labell (who used to live around the corner from me, when I was a baby, of course), Jill Scott, The Roots, Kevin Hart….and so on. NO excuse do we have.

          • gc

            This “righteous sister” is finally going to get off her ass (thank you by the way, it is a special compliment) and am going to YouTube Robeson’s Ol Man River. Will get Kleenex first. Have a good day.

          • GreenLadyHere

            Waitaminute gc. ***BIG HUG** —

            – - -HERE YA GO! -
            LOL.
            Good 2 C U . :>)

          • gc

            Damn, you blow me away, GLH. With your worries about your Mom, you still manage to bring the warmth and humor here.

            When I grow up I want to be just like you :)

          • GreenLadyHere

            Ohhh gc. ***HUGS**. – — Look – -gotta “bounce” to do some business 4 my mom [long distance - -She is in Pittsburgh.]..

            Will return as soon as. – - -:>) —

    • dannie22

      I co-sign your comment

  • Alma98

    Happy Juneteenth Day Everyone!

  • annvic

    1. Happy Juneteenth, eveybody!

    2. Does anybody remember that story about how when the Pres went to his first CBC convention he was appalled by the behavior and got harrassed by one of the female higher -ups? I’m trying to describe it to a friend but google is giving me nothing. Thanks!

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      Happy Juneteenth!

      Yeah, CPL posted about that several years ago on JJP. According to her, PBO was approached by several CBC women but he declined their advances.

      • annvic

        Thank You! :)

      • Town

        They’re mad because he didn’t unleash his d*ck into their old wrinkled…well, you know…

        • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

          PBO to CBC Cougar:

          And with that wrinkle *beep* I can’t be your loveeeeeeeeeer!

          *goes to find a seat in the “Bad Lounge”*

          • Aquagranny911

            Move over. I’ll bring some snacks. I’m in that kind of mood today.

          • edp4bho

            Will y’all please don’t start with the sex and PBO…my heart and something else can’t stand it…LOL. Not going to the bad lounge, I’m going to the Lord to ask for strength. Pray for me, will ya? LOL!!

        • danadevin74

          Now im on my lunch break
          So that was not nice LOL

        • Aquagranny911

          Vagina? Just saying….

          (FU Michigan goatfiggers!)

        • Admiral_Komack

          They should have looked up Rahm Emmanuel.

      • Aquagranny911

        I remember reading something about that. Poor man probably has to swat the women off like flies. I swear that Australian Prime Minister looks like she wants to jump his bones every time they are together.

        However, women should definitely consider that Michelle could seriously hurt you if you mess with her man.

        • Camille

          She has the serious hots for our President. She does not even try to hide it any longer.

    • danadevin74

      Happy Juneteenth, to you also
      Dang i didn’t hear about that
      I know POTUS is fine as wine but please be respectful

  • GreenLadyHere

    Good afternon miranda :>) – – –

    – — -Romney to attend NAACP convention

    — – - -The Hill is reporting that Mitt Romey’s campaign has announced that the presidential hopeful will address the crowd at the NAACP annual convention in Houston Texas on July 11th. The NAACP convention has been a critical campaign stop for Republican candidates over the past few years.

    Both Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and former president George W. Bush have attended the convention. The annual convention is a forum to establish policies and programs for the upcoming year:

    Mitt Romney will address the NAACP’s national convention in Houston next month, a rite of passage for presidential hopefuls vying for the White House.

    Romney will speak on July 11, the second to last day of a six-day conference, according to the Romney campaign.
    THERE IS MORE.

    Guess he will drag —his BLAH – -[as in - --ALL OUR SKIN FOLK - --AIN'T OUR KINFOLK] SURROGATE — – -4 SHOW!! – - – -***tsk*** ***eye roll***

    – – — -He betta get out his BOOK of MORMON 2 figure out – - -WHAT NOT 2 say!! – — humph!!

    • Town

      I bet a box of virtual Krispy Kreme doughnuts he will not appear.

      • nellcote

        I’d be shocked if he took questions. I hope he’s “rewarded” for his appearance with stone silence and massive side eye.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY Town. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

        LOL – — NOT even gon take that bet. :>)–

        BUT I betcha that he is still shell shocked from the —errrr – —uhhhh – — – - –LESS THAN WARM – -RECEPTION that he received at that elementary school. LOL – —

        He prolly gon get some – - -ANTI- MELANIN meds – - – 2 gear up 4 bein’ ‘ round – — ALL THAT MELANIN. LOL

        Good 2 C U Town. :>)

      • Admiral_Komack

        You want FatMan to stand in for him, don’t you?

    • Aquagranny911

      That ought to be interesting. I’m sure people will be courteous but I wonder what he will say if he actually shows up. Will he take questions? Probably not.

      OT: GLH, how is your Mama doing? Better I hope. I continue to send healing to her.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY Aquagranny911. **BIG HUG*** :>)

        THANK U very much. I’ve been on the telephone. Resting – - –That’s alll they say. ***sigh***.

        I’m thinkin’ that he will show. ’cause he won’t want 2 send Tara as HIS — -REPRESENTATIVE.[a BLAH woman] –LOL. We’ll C. – - -I may change my mind as we get closer 2 the day. :>)

        Good 2 C U. :>)

      • rikyrah

        We are always courteous. We would never treat anyone the way that they have treated President Obama.

        • Aquagranny911

          That’s because you all were raised right. Not like some disgusting folks who were probably raised by mutant rats.

          • Admiral_Komack

            Hey now!

            Splinter has better manners than those right-wing clowns!

    • Daltex82

      I wonder if Tara is getting paid extra to help him brush up on his “negro” for the event.

      I know it’s wrong but I hope he has one of those meltdown moments and puts his foot so far in him mouth he will need surgery to remove it

  • edp4bho

    Sigh ! So, so many are still stuck on December 31, 1862. Let’s see, we have black conservatives, black teabaggers, Boyce, West, and Smiley; cockeyed Christie is a biggie. Let’s not forget Steele, Ford, Bob Johnson. A few of the names you guys mention here who I haven’t a clue about but from what you write. Oh, and Mz. Tara. Oh, April is a real belle, isn’t she? Sometimes Brazile forgets she can be brilliant. IOW, they tread so lightly around their masters for fear of extinction. Somebody forgot to tell them that history is what happened yesterday. And for us, it was horrible. Only the fearless dare to pivot from being owned, and forge a new paradigm of freedom. And Toure with his Afro hair should just coin it a modern day take on Buckwheat’s do, shouldn’t he? What gets me is that too many of them challenge the “black authenticity” of PBO, who was not raised by black people, but who shows more courage and comfort in his own skin and convictions, unquestioning in his own blackness, than those who indict him for not having any roots in slavery.

    • TresL

      “…PBO, who was not raised by black people…” That to me is why all black critics of PBO should STFU. I commented about this on TOD last year. PBO was raised by his white mother and grandparents and basically abandoned by his black father. In my view he owes us no more than any other ethnic group. At pivotal points in his life and career it was white people who believed in him first, not us ( I don’t include myself in that as he was my choice from day 1 because I did not want to see the Clintons any where near the White House ever again).

      Think about how he was defeated in that congressional race in IL, the people of Iowa put him on the road to the nomination when too many of us were either still living on the Clinton plantation or just did not believe he could win. We came on board but after white folks validated him. It seemed the only black people who believed in him were Michelle and PBO himself. So when the black critics ask what has PBO done for us? They should look in the mirror and ask what have we done for him? And don’t say we voted for him because we’re Democrats and we were going to vote for the Democratic nominee regardless.

      • gc

        BHO celebrates humanity, IMO, not groups. He looks for what we share and tries to do the best for the greatest number of people, especially those most in need. Obama is a GIFT. Somebody to emulate, to aspire to be. If whites are threated, they need therapy. If AA’s don’t “get” it , and I would never speak for AA’s, but that is what I have surmised from being here. I actually had never even heard of Smiley until POU! I am oppositional as hell. EVERYBODY loses me when they attempt “to speak” for me. You listening PL?

        • caribbeanobserver

          From what my senses indicate, PBO is for America and Americans in his words and deeds via his policies, whereas all ‘these other folk’ and the party of NO are seemingly against America and Americans by their choice of words,deeds and constant critiques and criticisms.

        • Aquagranny911

          “Obama is a GIFT”…..Sing it Sister!

          He’s a gift that will probably take a lot of folks years to really appreciate. A McCain presidency would have probably given us a third war & sent most of us into the streets with a begging bowl when the economy collapsed into a worse depression than the ’30′s! Our young would have been lined up for soldiers because that would have been the only jobs they could get

          PBO has done his very best on so many social issues. He’s stood like an “unmoving tree beside the waters” against an unprecedented ‘holy war’ from a despicable congress & their money puppeteers.

          He’s given us back some pride in being Americans when we travel abroad because he treats other countries & world leaders with RESPECT.

          He gives an example to our children of what a man (not just a black man but any man) should be as a husband, a father & a leader.

          He does this every day while facing the haters with a smile on his face & a song in his heart.

          This is a MAN! A man for the ages, folks…

          Just my 2 pesos….

        • Camille

          Spot on.

      • edp4bho

        “I don’t include myself in that as he was my choice from day 1 because I did not want to see the Clintons any where near the White House ever again).” Amen to this, as I too chose him over anyone else. But, I chose him despite the Clintons.

        “too many of us were either still living on the Clinton plantation or just did not believe he could win.” Again, amen. Don’t forget how he was viewed suspiciously for some time even in Chicago. Bobby Rush was a god to them, and talked down to PBO. Now look at the both of them. KARMA is so lovely !!

      • Miranda

        YOU. DID. THAT.

      • Bri

        IMO I don’t think anybody was looking for the white community to validate him.

        • TresL

          I did not say anyone was; although, I do believe many were. What I said is blacks came on board after he was validated by his win in Iowa. Now, I view that as a matter of sequence but for some it may have been a matter of cause and effect. It was neither for me, because as I stated I was with him from the beginning. In fact, he had me at hello in 04. There were definitely black people who did not want to “waste their vote” on a black man who could not win and for them the win in Iowa gave them some assurance that maybe he could.

          • Ebogan63

            You described how I saw it, My father was for Edwards(which I to this day, don’t get), I was for him in ’04 as well.

          • Admiral_Komack

            Just a guess about your dad;
            Maybe it was Edwards “two Americas” spiel?

          • Ebogan63

            Yep, but he went for PBO when it was apparent Edwards was not gonna get the nomination.

      • caribbeanobserver

        They should also ask themselves what they have done for other black people!

        • TresL

          Touche’

      • Camille

        Amen.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    April is spinning. She fails to mention Romney has been dodging protestors.

    AprilDRyan ‏@AprilDRyan
    In Dewitt with Romney. The first Protest they have seen in days http://yfrog.com/ods67wjsj

    AprilDRyan ‏@AprilDRyan
    In Dewitt, Michigan protesters. The first group of protesters the campaign has seen since Ohio. http://yfrog.com/h7klkglqj

    AprilDRyan ‏@AprilDRyan
    Some protest signs in the crowd http://yfrog.com/nuowrctj

    • Aquagranny911

      April, the Robme has been hiding out with cows & chickens. No matter how much they might like to protest, holding a sign in hooves or beak is a skill that requires a lot of practice.

      • edp4bho

        LOL. You’ve had me hollering all day, aquagranny. I’d better get to work. Thanks for the laughs. Between you, GLH, Admiral, and Miranda, I’m done :-)

      • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

        Lawd! LOL!

    • Admiral_Komack

      Has she interviewed the man yet, or does he have her cleaning his many mansions?

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda/POU FAM – — HAPPY JUNETEENTH! -THANK U 2 OUR ANCESTORS WHO ENDURED. :>) -

    OUR NAACP UNIT held our commemoration on SATURDAY – YA NOW -when learned —-The Michael Jackson Shuffle. LOL.

    ——–Done What You Tole Me To Do – Fisk Jubilee Singers – -

    ——–A SOLDIER—-READING the—-EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION.

    ——-WE REMEMBER—AMEN.——

  • Aquagranny911

    Has anyone else noticed that Mitty’s hair keeps getting darker? I think he needs to lay off the shoe polish, Grecian Formula or whatever else he is using.

    • rikyrah

      shoe polish..

      BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA

      • Aquagranny911

        Don’t laugh. My Grandpa tried to use shoe polish to darken his mustache when it went grey. Granny made him stop because the heat would melt it off onto his lips. It was pretty gross.

        • Alma98

          HAHAHAHAHA!

        • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

          LMBAO!

        • PBomb

          LOL!

        • Daltex82

          _____________________

        • MsKitty

          I can’t stop laughing

    • Camille

      Not just the hair, but his weird fake tan too which it also seems is used to cover his unnaturally white lips.

      Something is up.

      • Admiral_Komack

        Gotta look good for the cameras and studio lights.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – — -GR8 NEW$ – – -$CHOLAR$HIP$ – — -

    – - – -KPMG awards $470,000 in scholarship funds to minorities – –

    – - -Market Watch reports that the KPMG Foundation announced Monday that they were awarding $470,000 to minority accounting doctoral scholars. The award was granted to 12 new recipients as well as 35 applicants. KPMG has awarded over $10.9 million to minorities since 1994.

    MONTVALE, N.J., Jun 18, 2012 (BUSINESS WIRE) — The KPMG Foundation announced it has awarded a total of $470,000 in scholarships to minority accounting doctoral students for the 2012-2013 academic year.

    The recipients include 12 new recipients and 35 students whose scholarships have been renewed. Each scholarship is valued at $10,000, and is renewable annually for up to five years.

    “The KPMG Foundation is proud of the very positive influence it has had in helping to increase the number of diverse faculty members at our nation’s colleges and universities,” said Jose Rodriguez, KPMG Foundation chairperson. “The Minority Accounting Doctoral Scholarship will play a critical role in transforming these 47 talented students into educators who will shape tomorrow’s business leaders.”
    THERE IS MORE.

  • rikyrah

    Eugene Robinson
    Opinion Writer Mitt Romney’s mysterious views on immigration

    Sí, se puede. Yes, it can be done.

    President Obama showed last week that it’s possible to find a reasonable, humane solution for at least 800,000 young people who were illegally brought into this country as children. All you need is a moral compass and a heart.

    Seems to me that Obama’s unilateral decision to let these noncitizens remain here without fear of deportation should have quieted critics who bray and whine about a supposed lack of bold presidential leadership. It didn’t, of course.

    Republicans immediately — and cynically — charged that the president’s move was purely political, aimed at boosting his chances of reelection. Polls show that Latino voters care passionately about immigration reform. If Obama’s initiative energizes and motivates this key segment, which already supports him by about 2 to 1, it becomes much tougher to defeat the president in the fall.

    But if taking action on the immigration issue is good politics for Obama and the Democrats, then Republicans have only themselves to blame. The GOP has made a conscious decision to offer nativists and xenophobes a comfortable home where their extremist views go unchallenged. No one should be surprised if voters who think differently about immigration issues — including some who are recent immigrants themselves — feel unwelcome.

    Where is Mitt Romney on all of this, you ask? Excellent question. Former British prime minister Gordon Brown’s withering putdown in 2009 of David Cameron, the current prime minister, is perfect to describe Romney: “The more he talks, the less he actually says.”

    Predictably, Romney was critical of Obama’s action, saying he should not have resorted to a “stopgap” measure when a long-term solution is needed. Indeed, the new policy will require qualified immigrants to reapply every two years for permission to live and work here. And since Obama created the policy by executive fiat, a future president could simply rescind it — which is just what a President Romney would do, right?

    Who knows? On Sunday’s “Face the Nation,” Bob Schieffer asked Romney that question four times. Romney steadfastly refused to give a straight answer.

    Romney’s first nonresponse began: “Well, let’s step back and, and look at the issue . . .

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/eugene-robinson-mitt-romneys-mysterious-views-on-immigration/2012/06/18/gJQA2ukLmV_story.html?hpid=z3

    • goldenstar

      OT, haven’t seen Eugene Robinson lately on MSNBC…

      • Miranda

        I’ve noticed he’s been missing.

        • Camille

          Eugene should have just stayed writing. His turns at punditry didn’t do him any favors. Made even worse by the fact that he had to play to his mediocre hosts idiosyncrasies.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Really David Schuster? Really, tho? I’ve never seen him this outraged when Fox, MSNBC and CNN actually took PBO out of context.

    David Shuster ‏@DavidShuster
    I usually disagree w/ @DLoesch @michellemalkin @brentbozell. But their anger @mitchellreports on this is justified. Andrea, what the hell?

    • Miranda

      He acting like the video was sliced and diced – you know, the way they do PBO on Fox all the damn time? This fauxrage would be hilarious if it weren’t so damn sad.

      • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

        I’m telling you, this ain’t nothing but get back. MSNBC fired Schuster because he shot a pilot for a show on CNN. He still mad.

        • Admiral_Komack

          CNN hasn’t given him a show yet?
          Sucker.

    • Camille

      This new trend of pretending to be independent and offering some pseudo fair and balanced shit with the occasional overeaction to some very lame stuff, is so boriiiiinnng!

      Notice how they all go on twitter or on some t.v show to be sure everyone notices.

      Don’t forget that David Schuster is still auditioning for a show on CNN. His part time gig on Current is just a stop gap. He really, really, wants that gig on CNN.

  • rikyrah

    TPM2012
    Kennedy Institute Rejects Scott Brown’s ‘Unprecedented’ Debate Demand

    Eric Kleefeld- June 19, 2012, 2:10 PM

    Republican Sen. Scott Brown’s terms for debating Democratic nominee Elizabeth Warren at the Edward M. Kennedy Institute in Massachusetts was rejected Tuesday, a move that could derail the event.

    The Kennedy Institute rebuffed the Brown campaign’s demand that Vicki Kennedy, widow of the late Sen. Ted Kennedy and president of the institute named in his honor, pledge to not make any endorsement throughout the Senate race.

    “This non-endorsement pledge is unprecedented and is not being required of any other persons or entities. To us, such a pledge seems inappropriate when a non-media sponsor issues a debate invitation,” Kennedy Institute chief operating officer Lisa McBirney and chief of staff Christopher Hogan wrote in a letter released Tuesday.

    Brown’s campaign manager Jim Barnett said in an open letter to the institute on Monday:

    As the President of the Board of Trustees, Vicki Kennedy assured us in her June 8 letter that the Kennedy Institute is “non-partisan” and would therefore be an appropriate setting for a Senate debate. In order to proceed, we need to know that in keeping with the spirit of neutrality expressed in Vicki Kennedy’s letter that she will not endorse or otherwise get involved in this race.In their response, McBirney and Hogan noted that Kennedy would not even be asking any actual questions and that similar events were commonplace:

    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/kennedy-institute-rejects-browns-unprecedented-demand-on-vicki-kennedy-for-debate.php

    • Miranda

      Good. Shows what a clown he is for making such ridiculous requests in the first place.

    • Daltex82

      He just doesn’t want to debate, because he knows Ms. Warren will probably wipe the floor with him.

      This is the same nonsense I expect the Romney camp to pull when it comes time to debate President Obama.

      • Aquagranny911

        Robme can try that but the American people will roast him like a hot dog on a stick if he refuses debates. People expect the Prez & VP debates. For many people that’s when they really size up the candidates.

        • Town

          So what will happen is Romney will get all of the questions in advance, and Romney & the moderators will “jump” Obama like ABC & Hillary did in ’08.

          • Aquagranny911

            My money is on PBO. He’s Prez not a candidate looking for the nomination while debating a woman with the ‘inside track.’

            I’m sure he knows every card stacked against him & how to play his own.

          • sagenotsweet

            Three debates: according to the trad media, Romney will “win” one and one will be a “tie”
            This much we all know right now.

          • Town

            Romney will win all three, according to the media.

          • Admiral_Komack

            I agree, because how, oh how will the MSM run those “Obama is in trouble” stories otherwise?

      • MsKitty

        We should start a pool on what excuses they’ll come up with. My money’s on Miss Ann “suddenly” taking ill with her MS.

        • Camille

          And if Romney cancels any debate citing a sudden turn in Ann’s health, then the Ameican people ought to insist he drop out of the race entirely and focus on his wife and her last days.

          • Miranda

            I don’t know if you intended for that to be as funny as it is to me, but I’m sure I’m going to hell for laughing so hard at that comment.

        • Admiral_Komack

          I’ll see that and raise you one “My dog is carsick.”

    • Aquagranny911

      None of these goatfiggers want to debate because they know they will end up cat meat. Our twiggy fingered Governor only did one debate here & she choked up. She refused any more debates after that. The Repugs only want sound bytes & strokes from MSM. They don’t want to answer the hard questions or actually engage the voters because they know they will LOSE!

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      Just saw this on Twitter:

      Brown turns down debate after condition rejected
      By Michael Levenson
      June 19, 2012

      Senator Scott Brown today rejected a debate proposed by Victoria Reggie Kennedy, after the widow of Senator Edward M. Kennedy refused his precondition that she not endorse a candidate in his reelection campaign against Democrat Elizabeth Warren.

      “We respect Vicki Kennedy’s decision but we regret that we cannot accept a debate invitation from someone who plans to endorse Scott Brown’s opponent,” Brown Campaign Manager Jim Barnett said in a statement. “The Kennedy Institute cannot hold itself out as a nonpartisan debate sponsor while the president of its board of trustees gets involved in the race on behalf of one of the candidates.”

      MORE: http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2012/06/19/vicki-kennedy-rejects-scott-brown-proposed-condition-for-hosting-senate-debate/lAeLUraLdrmh7vOCIGfzDM/story.html?s_campaign=sm_tw

      • MsKitty

        If you’re scared, just say you’re scared.

      • nellcote

        So free speech only applies to goopers. Not surprising.

      • Admiral_Komack

        What a whiny-ass titty baby.

  • rikyrah

    That’s not ‘how government works’
    By Steve Benen – Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:11 PM EDT.

    A video made the rounds yesterday, featuring Mitt Romney expressing amazement at his ability to order a sandwich on a touch-screen at a WaWa’s in Pennsylvania. Dylan Byers makes the case that the larger context is far less damaging to Romney, and he appears to have a point.

    But immediately before Romney’s WaWa comments, the Republican shared an interesting anecdote with his Pennsylvania audience.

    “I met an optometrist this morning and … this optometrist wanted to change his billing address. He moved his office from one side of town to the other, same Zip code, same post office. But he wanted to change his address. He got a form from the federal government. This is so he could get reimbursement from the federal government for the services he provides for the poor and seniors.

    “The form he gets to change address is 33 pages long — 33 pages long. He calls someone to ask how to fill it out. He calls someone in government. They tell him what to do. He sends it in. They sent it back. It wasn’t done right, got to do it again, another 33 pages. He calls another person. They tell him what to do. Doesn’t get it right the second time. The third time’s the charm, though. This takes several months during which time he’s not getting the checks for the work he’s doing for people who need his care. That’s how government works.”

    While the WaWa story caused a bit of a stir, this little story about the change-of-address form at the post office is infinitely more interesting — in part because it’s so ridiculously untrue, and in part because it helps underscore the absurd philosophy Romney is trying to peddle on the campaign trail.

    As Paul Waldman explained, “Have you ever changed your address? You probably have. Did you have to fill out a 33-page form? Of course you didn’t. The form to change your address is a friggin’ postcard. Old address, new address, when you want the change to happen. Done. You can do it online now, and it’ll take about 2 minutes. Yet Mitt Romney gets up in front of a crowd of people and tells them that government is so awful, at the Post Office you have to fill out a 33-page form to change your address.”

    Romney wants — and in fact, needs — voters to have nothing but disdain for public institutions, which leads him to tell outlandish falsehoods like these with a straight face. And Republican voters, conditioned to believe that public institutions are broken and untrustworthy, accept the lies at face value.

    But the non-existent 33-page change-of-address form underscores an important truth: if government is so awful, and the public bureaucracy is such a Brazil-like nightmare, why can’t Romney point to real examples instead of passing along nonsense?
    .

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/19/12301855-thats-not-how-government-works?lite

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    This is what happens when you repeat the musings of a right wing blogger instead of doing your own research:

    Dylan Byers ‏@DylanByers

    Oh God. CORRECTION: The edited WaWa video first aired on “Way Too Early with Willie Geist” http://on.msnbc.com/LzAEkw (cc’ @soopermexican)

    • Miranda

      They really don’t know when to fold do they?

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda — —The GOP WAR ON WOMEN – - -CONTINUES – -

    – —Iowa Could Lose $1.8 Billion By Stripping Abortion Funding For Rape And Incest Victims – - –

    - – - -Forty-one GOP legislators in Iowa have filed a motion with the Iowa Department of Human Services attempting to halt all government-funded abortion services in the state — even in cases of rape or incest. If successful, Iowa would join South Dakota, the only state that currently denies Medicaid funding for abortion services and could lose millions in federal funding:

    More than 80,000 women received health care at family planning programs across the state paid for by Medicaid last year, said Planned Parenthood of the Heartland CEO Jill June.

    “If (the petitioners) are successful in discontinuing health care for rape victims like this, how will they make up the shortfall that’s been providing other health services for women who depend on it?” June asked. “They need to answer that.”

    Iowa already follows the requirements of the federal Hyde Amendment, which prohibits the use of federal dollars on abortion services except in the case of rape, incest, or if the life of the mother is in danger. Further limiting financing for abortion services could jeopardize the state’s federal funding stream.
    THERE IS MORE.

    – – — -DESPICABLE!!! – - -

  • rikyrah

    June 19, 2012
    The discombobulated American left
    I don’t write much about the American left, mostly because there isn’t much of an American left to write about. It is a mouse that on occasion heroically tries but simply cannot roar.

    In descending statistical order–ending in obscurity–roughly 40 percent of the American electorate self-identifies as conservative, about 35 percent as moderate, 20 percent as liberal, and among the latter cluster about 1 out of 4 identifies as “very liberal.” This few, this unhappy few, this 5-percent band of brothers and sisters constitutes, I think we would all agree, the modern American left. Some compensate and console themselves with the historical analogy that, well hell, during the antebellum period abolitionists represented only about 5 percent of the electorate, too. And look at what they accomplished. History might answer, however, that the Civil War wasn’t launched by abolitionists, wasn’t fought by abolitionists, and ultimately derailed into the prolonged Southernization of American politics.

    But let’s not go there, if for no other reason than that one of the chief distinctions between fiery abolitionists and wet-blanket progressives is that the former never bellowed they were ‘The 99 Percent.’ They were a besieged, molested, peculiar and extreme minority, and they knew it. They also seemed to instinctively understand that bellowing self-delusional, self-inflating slogans should be left to the 21st century.

    To which we’ll return, now, and direct our attention to this pathetic contemporaneity: the Campaign for America’s Future’s annual ‘Take Back the American Dream Conference’ opened in Washington D.C. yesterday, where, notes Dana Milbank this morning, “half of the 500 seats were filled.”

    TBADC’s Web site purports a populist, progressive, grassroots aggressiveness: “We are the 99%. If we organize, if we force the debate, we can win not only the election but the argument”–even though “we” cannot fill a mere 500 seats.

    I beg your indulgence. I’m not trying to be snide. But in return please indulge me for a moment by at least acknowledging that the above’s gratuitous bluster is counterproductive, in that it’s needlessly strained, which destroys credibility.

    By that I mean activist progressives’ claims are rhetorically strained in view of their lacking a material, socioeconomic transformation, which should by definition inhere in authentic progressive movements. Yet here, from TBADC’s Web site, is a bit of elaboration: The organization promises primarily to preserve the status quo in protecting Social Security and Medicare, as well as protecting federal obligations ranging from “food stamps to food safety” and reducing unemployment.

    http://pmcarpenter.blogs.com/p_m_carpenters_commentary/2012/06/the-discombobulated-american-left.html

    • Ebogan63

      This is a very good and important post from PM Carpenter, and I highly recommend it.

  • Miranda

    Marco Rubio isn’t being seriously vetted by Romney campaign, adviser confirms

    FRANKENMUTH, Mich. — Mitt Romney’s vice presidential search team is not seriously vetting Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.), one of the Republican Party’s brightest young stars, as the all-but-certain GOP nominee increasingly gravitates toward more experienced but less charismatic leaders as a potential running mate.

    ABC News first reported Tuesday morning that Romney’s campaign had not asked Rubio to complete a questionnaire or submit any personal financial documents, which one outside Romney adviser confirmed to The Washington Post on Tuesday. The adviser left open the possibility that Romney officials could decide to thoroughly vet Rubio at a later date.

    more here

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sources-say-rubio-isnt-getting-seriously-vetted-by-romney-campaign/2012/06/19/gJQAUq19nV_story.html?hpid=z2

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – —Good News. – —The RACIST FELON annnd his minions will NOT B at MR. PRESIDENT’s NOMINATION. – - -LOL.

    – - -W.Va. Democrats Skipping Obama’s Nomination – –

    – - – –You may not be surprised to hear that President Obama is not too popular in West Virginia, considering that a felon serving time in prison actually won more than 40% of the vote against him in last month’s presidential primary. That unpopularity apparently extends to the uppermost echelons of Democrats in the state: Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin, Sen. Joe Manchin, and Rep. Nick Rahall have decided to skip Obama’s formal nomination at the Democratic National Convention this summer, USA Today reports. Jay Rockefeller, West Virginia’s senior senator, will attend.

    – - –***wipes brow*** LOL. — – Gotta keep out the RIF-RAF!! —

  • Miranda

    Oh…he had a book coming out today??
    BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Marco Rubio veepstakes leaks divide Romney World, helps Barack Obama, irks conservatives

    President Barack Obama owes a debt of gratitude to the Republican leakers who have told ABC and now the Washington Post that Sen. Marco Rubio isn’t being vetted to be a running mate for Republican Mitt Romney. With just a few whispers, the stories have:

    1) poured cold water on Rubio’s warm-and-fuzzy national tour to plug his autobiography, An American Son, which came out today.

    2) indicates there’s a goodly amount of internal Romney World discord and suspicion over Rubio’s high profile as of late.

    Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2012/06/marco-rubio-veepstakes-leaks-divides-romney-world-helps-barack-obama-irks-conservatives.html#storylink=cpy

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      2) indicates there’s a goodly amount of internal Romney World discord and suspicion over Rubio’s high profile as of late.

      Translation: Rubio is not staying in his place.

  • itgurl_29

    I gotta say, I’m not too thrilled about Arsenio getting a new late night show. He skinned and grinned for Trump. And something tells me that he must have sold his soul for the Hollywood powers that be to give him a show. Are they looking to put a black face in a high place to attack POTUS nightly?

    • Town

      Yes.

      • Miranda

        second….the motion is carried.

        • gc

          He and Wayne Brady make me uncomfortable.

          • crazycanuck

            What did Brady do? Arsenio, what a dissapointment.

          • gc

            I used to watch him on Whose Line. He seemed to be willing to mock AA conventions/references, or condone the mocking. He struck me as a “go along to get along” person. BUT I’m not saying it is not his right to live and react as he chooses. AND I could be wrong. (but I rarely am :) ) BTW, if we lose Nov, I am relocating and moving in with you. Just thought you should know.

      • itgurl_29

        Glad I’m not the only one giving the side eye to this whole thing.

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      Hmm….good question!

      • itgurl_29

        I hope I’m proven wrong but I’ve just got a bad feeling. Arsenio killed his career when he chose to book Louis Farrakhan on his show. His name was mud in the industry for decades. He couldn’t pay them to give him a show. Now suddenly, he wins some reality and CBS awards him with a late night show?

        Something ain’t right.

        • isonprize

          see, that’s what I get for comments all late at night on the ‘afternoon’ thread….

          Bro. Lou. Yeah, they were NOT havin’ it!!! LOLOL

    • danadevin74

      I think it was already agreed upon that Arsenio would win
      before the show even started
      Making birther jokes and shining on national television
      This will be touted as see Trump isn’t racist

    • Ebogan63

      I’m with you on this.

    • MsKitty

      No doubt in my mind that’s what he’s there for.

      • Admiral_Komack

        Word.

        He won’t be getting any rating points from me, so I’m not sweating it.

    • isonprize

      And something tells me that he must have sold his soul for the Hollywood powers that be to give him a show.

      …especially since he had to go in the witness protection program after he had Louis Farrakhan on his show back in the day….

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda — – - -Excuse the ENVIRONMENT – - -BUT — – -THIS SENATOR is a STRONG ADVOCATE – - –4 MR. PRESIDENT :>) – – -

    – - –Polls Indicate Obama Gaining with Latino Voters – —

    – – Congressman Xavier Becerra — -ADVOCATES WELL. – –

    • Aquagranny911

      Well, Fox won’t invite this guy back. Good share, thanks. What I know about this guy is pretty positive & he did a great job of supporting the Prez. I love how he pointed out that Congress is basically taking the next 6 months off.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY Aquagranny911. —LOL – — -U betcha. LOL

        Juan was axin’ all kinds of NEGATIVE questions. Ann – - -”homeboy” was “POSITVIZING” [LOL spellcheck jus' had a HISSY]- – them –2 da max!! – -YEP! I head that!! :>)

        THEY BEEN on VACAY ALL this time. LOL. – –

  • Miranda

    Obama’s Lawyer Demands Information on Group’s Donors
    By MICHAEL D. SHEAR

    The lawyer for President Obama demanded on Tuesday that Crossroads GPS disclose its donors, saying in a complaint to the Federal Election Commission that the group is plainly a “political committee” subject to federal reporting requirements.

    In the complaint, obtained by The New York Times, Robert F. Bauer, the campaign’s chief counsel, writes that the group — founded by Karl Rove, among others — can no longer shield the identity of its donors by defining itself as a “social welfare” organization.

    more here
    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/19/obamas-lawyer-demands-information-on-groups-donors/?smid=tw-share

  • goldenstar

    OMG! On Martin Bashir’s show, Edward Wyckoff Williams, a Politico reporter called OUT Neil Munro’s scream and premise as white supremacist ideology.

    He. did. not.

    • rikyrah

      NO!!!

      • itgurl_29

        I saw it. It was the same black dude!

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      Shut the front door!

    • sagenotsweet

      Yes, he did. I was happy to have the TV on for this. There were a couple of people standing up and cheering in my house.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – — JUST WATCHED Harry Belafonte – - – -SPEAK POSITIVELY 4 MR. PRESIDENT annnnd NEGATIVELY 4 —teh WILLARD. – —Hmmmmm. . . – -????? – - – -

    • Miranda

      On what show was this?

      • GreenLadyHere

        miranda – — I was on the telephone while watching. I just know that he was on cnn promoting his new venture — -SING YOUR SONG. :>) IMMA TRY 2 look it up. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda — -MORE “TROOPS” – - -ENTER the FRAY!! – – -Woo! Hoo! – -

    – - -POU FAM VOTER SUPPRESSION/Anti-Voter WATCH – - –

    – - – - — Voting Rights Coalition Files Suit Over Florida Voter Purge – - -

    – - -Civil and voting rights organizations on Tuesday filed a new lawsuit alleging that Gov. Rick Scott’s voter roll purge in Florida violates Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act, which bans discrimination in voting practices.

    Florida officials say the purge is meant to keep non-citizens off the voter rolls, but many legitimate voters ended up on the state’s inaccurate purge list.

    “This lawsuit will protect eligible voters in every county in Florida from walking into a polling place only to find that the state has erroneously decreed they cannot participate in this election,” Catherine M. Flanagan, director of Project Vote’s Election Administration Program, said in a statement. “This purge is profoundly undemocratic and must be stopped.”

    Advancement Project Co-Chair Penda Hair said it was “shameful that Governor Scott is violating federal law to remove the voting rights of thousands of American citizens, with a glaringly disparate impact on Black and Latino citizens who are perfectly eligible to vote.”
    THERE IS MORE.

  • rikyrah

    June 19, 2012 9:20 AM

    Rubio Off the Veep List?

    By Ed Kilgore

    There’s a small shred of real—if somewhat speculative—political news this morning: a report from ABC’s Jonathan Karl that Sen. Marco Rubio is not being vetted for possible selection as Mitt Romney’s running-mate. I would call this more “real” than “speculative” for the simple reason that while you can bloviate endlessly about Romney’s compatibility with this or that pol, or his or her “star appeal,” or his or her congruence with the Mood of the Heartland, or whatever—but the fact remains that documents have to be reviewed, closets have to be examined, and rumors have to be check out before even the most exciting prospect can be seriously considered. If that ain’t happening for Rubio by now, it may well not be happening at all.

    The timing is interesting, what with Republican dismay over Obama’s DREAM Lite initiative and its possible impact on Hispanic voters, and the rapturous reception Rubio received for his speech at the Faith and Freedom Coalition event in Washington over the weekend. Rubio has always been a Tea Party favorite, and is particularly a heartthrob to his Senate colleague Jim DeMint, who I suspect has current custody of the soul of the Republican Party (perhaps wrapped in a Confederate Flag) somewhere in his office.

    On top of everything else, Rubio’s autobiography is officially being released today.

    If Rubio’s truly off the list, it could mean the aroma of ethics scandals that occasionally wafts from his direction (particularly given his close relationship to Rep. David Rivera) is too strong, or it could just mean Romney’s already leaning in the direction of one of the white-bread alternatives like Rob Portman (whose chameleon-like ability to impersonate Democratic candidates during debate prep over the years may strike a personal note with the very slippery Mitt) or even Tim Pawlenty. Now that Karl’s broken the seal, we’ll probably hear more before long.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2012_06/rubio_off_the_veep_list038029.php

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    All day long, the media has been talking about the negative body language between Putin and PBO and how their meeting didn’t go well. Norah O’Donnell’s went so far as to say that Putin lectured PBO ( http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7412134n ). Well, looky here:

    Russian ship turns away from Syria, officials say

    A Russian ship thought to be carrying attack helicopters to Syria now appears to be returning home, British officials said today.

    “I am pleased that the ship that was reported to be carrying arms to Syria has now turned back apparently towards Russia,” said British Foreign Secretary William Hague in remarks to Parliament.

    The vessel, the MV Alaed, had stopped off the Scottish coast after its British insurer said it had withdrawn cover because of the claims that it was carrying arms to Bashar al-Assad’s embattled regime, reports AFP.

    MORE: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/06/russian-ship-turns-away-from-syria-officials-say/1?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=373938#.T-DYYZHNlDk

    • Miranda

  • Miranda

    shorter: all our wimmens is stoopid

    “I think unfortunately, Palin poisoned the well on that,” said one informal Romney adviser, fretting that any woman selected as VP would draw inevitable comparisons to the former Alaska governor. “I would guess if I were inside the Romney mind that they’re worried that any woman chosen will be subjected to a higher level of scrutiny. ”
    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/19/12302526-romneys-search-for-a-vp-appears-to-narrow?ocid=twitter

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Twitter fam, please light this mofo up! HP’s Sam Stein posting lies about PBO’s campaign:

    Sam Stein ‏@samsteinhp
    So, the Obama campaign pays hecklers and then condemns them?

    He made this tweet based on a Buzz Feed article claiming anti-Romney protestors were paid to heckle.

  • Miranda

    YOU FIRST!

    McConnell declines to take position on Obama’s immigration decision, until Romney does

    Senators don’t usually suffer from a shortage of opinions — and especially not Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). But on Tuesday, McConnell said he wouldn’t take a firm position on President Obama’s decision to stop deporting illegal immigrants who arrived in the United States as children.

    McConnell said he would wait — until presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney had taken a position first.

    more here
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2chambers/post/mcconnell-declines-to-take-position-on-obamas-immigration-decision-until-romney-does/2012/06/19/gJQAmoWVoV_blog.html?Post+generic=%3Ftid%3Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost

  • gc

    A favor: please check out first story on TOD ( I can’t link on my IPAD)

    This was truly a LOL moment.

    • Alma98

      Yes it was lol. I swear this man is a walking talking cartoon.

    • Aquagranny911

      No Fair! I think I peed myself! Whoever set up that front page was not thinking at all.

      JEEZE LOWEEZ! You can’t hardly make caca up like this. It’s going to put The Onion out of business! I wonder if Colbert or any others will pick up on it.

      • gc

        Fair ! :) I am supposed to control myself reading about spinning on giant cacti and goatfigging and…HEH!

        • Aquagranny911

          Hah! I’m a great champion for goats. I always yell: “Don’t think of me. Save yourselves!” whenever there is a Repugnant around. You never know what a Repug will do. They have many secret vices & perversions. Goatfigging is only one of them. I could tell you more but it might give you nightmares.

    • Admiral_Komack

      Picture caption:

      I REALLY like firing people!
      TOOT! TOOT!

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Sorry, but I ain’t buying this. News of Romney not vetting Rubio dropped this morning, but he waits until this evening to debunk the story? Nah. It sounds like Romney is spinning so as to not piss off the Latino community.

    6:10 PM EDT, Tuesday June 19, 2012
    Romney Camp Vetting Marco Rubio After All

    In the midst of several reports earlier today that Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) wasn’t being vetted by Mitt Romney’s campaign for the vice presidential nod, the former Mass. Gov. today confirmed himself that the Florida Republican was indeed being “vetted” by his campaign, reports the Miami Herald:

    Romney just told reporters following his campaign that Rubio “is being vetted.”

    So much for the anonymous folks who told ABC, The Washington Post and The New York Times the opposite.

    http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/romney-camp-vetting-marco-rubio-after-all

    • Aquagranny911

      Oh Please! Keep dangling that little worm in the water. There won’t be enough left of him to feed a half inch gold fish! Rubio is going to be damn lucky if he can keep his seat in Florida. The Repugs are totally deluded if they think Rubio will pull in Latino voters.

      • Admiral_Komack

        Hey now!

        Shouldn’t he be dangling in tequila?

        • Aquagranny911

          Not if I want to drink it!

          • Admiral_Komack

            Give it to Willard (AKA “Two-Face).
            He’ll drink it; he’s THAT desperate for the Latino vote.

            He’ll do it wearing a sombrero, and a taco in his other hand.

    • danadevin74

      The Romney Campaign is lying and they know it
      They aren’t fooling anyone

    • Admiral_Komack

      So Sen. Marco Rubio (Anchor Baby-FL) is now the Brett Farve of politics
      (He’s IN!
      He’s OUT!).
      Looks like Two-Face is desperate for the Latino vote.
      Aye, caramba!

  • Miranda

    Evening thread is up!