November 21, 2017

Tuesday Evening Thread: Ain’t No Mountain High Enough

Happy New Year’s Obots!


  • rikyrah

    On the Fiscal Cliff, Obama Does What He Can Against 200 Years of Bad Faith

    The fiscal-cliff impasse had its roots in—where else?—the old South, with its lunatic blend of obstructionism and greed at the public trough, writes Michael Tomasky.

    by Michael Tomasky Jan 1, 2013 4:45 AM EST

    While most liberals were stewing at Barack Obama yesterday for his “capitulation” on tax rates, I confess that I was feeling philosophical about it, and even mildly defensive of him. He is negotiating with madmen, and you can’t negotiate with madmen, because they’re, well, mad. I also spent part of yesterday morning re-reading a little history and reminding myself that rascality like this fiscal-cliff business has been going on since the beginning of the republic. So now I’d like to remind you. It’s always the reactionaries holding up the progressives—and usually, needless to say, it’s been the South holding up the North—and always with the same demagogic and dishonest arguments about a tyrannical central government. We’ll never be rid of these paranoid bloviators, and if no other president could stop them I don’t really see why Obama ought to be able to.


    Mitch McConnell may have cut a deal with Joe Biden. But don’t forget, even though he agreed to something, and even though it went through the Senate, now it goes to the House, where all these historic resentments fester and boil. They are not now limited to the South, but the region remains their locus (think of it this way: if those 11 states of the Confederacy somehow weren’t around, we’d obviously be having no such fights).

    So I’m feeling for Obama. A number of presidents have had to deal with this kind of behavior, and most haven’t done it very well. If the House will pass today the deal Obama and Joe Biden worked out last night with the Senate—higher tax rates at $400,000 and up, a higher estate tax rate, an extension of unemployment benefits, and a delay in the sequester—he will have done all right. Liberals who think he should just stand tough because he “holds all the cards” aren’t recognizing two important things.

    First, he simply doesn’t hold all the cards. The Republicans control the House, and they have enough to block in the Senate. Where I come from, those are cards, and serious ones. Second, they aren’t remembering that his opponents draw on and are part of this nation’s long and often tragic history of people who represent an obsolescing minority viewpoint but do so all the more tenaciously precisely because they secretly know the viewpoint to be both of those things. We will never be rid of them. Obama is having to cross swords with a particularly intense concentration of the type, and right now, he’s doing alright.

  • GreenLadyHere

    Good Evenin’ miranda/POU FAM♥. – – – -***BIG – -2013/KWANZAA –HUG*** :>) —
    — — – -That SONG – — –seeeee — LOL – – —

    – —As I said – – — BU- – -bu – –BUT – –DEY FRIENDS — RIGHT??? – –LOL – –

    Annnd YES – —Thank you President Obama!, This new year starting off just RIGHT! – –

    THIS was DA BOMB! :>) – —Senate Passes ‘Fiscal Cliff’ Compromise 89-8 . – –

  • gc

    Miranda or GHL or anyone – what is the latest with the House and the deal? I tried to suss it out on other blogs (I do NOT say “house n….”BTW, and I know the poster is OK. I don’t own that term, not mine to use. I fight against the use of t–d too)
    The other blogs are all over the place. I assume in reaction to Tweets. Is there any truth out there?

    • GreenLadyHere

      Gc – –DEY bein’ – -STOOPID — OBSTRUCTIONISTS – -as USUAL!!

      – –COMMENT: – —Terence Strait
      Proof once again that the GOP is brain damaged. Who else could lose the presidency, lose seats in the house and senate, go into negotiations and come out *ahead* and say “Nope, not good enough.” Some people seriously need to learn how to take a win. Progressives were furious with how much got given away in the compromise, and the tea party simply won’t take the gift that’s been given to them. They aren’t going to get a deal better for them and worse for liberals than what already exists in the fiscal cliff, and that’s apparently what they want. Compromise does not mean “I get 100% of what I want, and you can suck it.”

      – -AS FAR AS I KNOW. . .:>) – – –

      • gc

        Thx GLH. They disgust me. But I work with truly brain damaged folks – Mr Strait: Please don’t throw that word around.
        There is no other president ever our country could be fortuneate enough to have in place than BHO.

  • Miranda

    On the gnashing of teeth by the professional left is just hilarious. They know they are becoming more and more irrelevant as the days go by.

    View From the Left: Obama ‘Kept Giving Stuff Away’

    WASHINGTON — For President Obama, the tax deal pending in the House would finally end four years of debate with Republicans about raising rates on the wealthy. But it seemed to reopen a debate within his party about the nature of his leadership and his skills as a negotiator.

    While Mr. Obama got most of what he sought in the agreement, he found himself under withering criticism from some in his liberal base who accused him of caving in to Republicans by not taxing the rich more. Just as Speaker John A. Boehner has been under pressure from his party, Mr. Obama faces a virtual Tea Party of the left that sees his compromise as capitulation.

    The main difference is that in the Obama era, the Democratic establishment has been less influenced, or intimidated, by the left than the Republican establishment has been by the right. Liberals have not mounted sustained primary challenges to take out wayward incumbents the way conservatives have. And so, despite the misgivings, all but three Democratic senators voted for the compromise on Tuesday, giving Mr. Obama more room to operate than Mr. Boehner.

    more here

    • MsKitty

      The main difference is that in the Obama era, the Democratic establishment has been less influenced, or intimidated, by the left than the Republican establishment has been by the right. Liberals have not mounted sustained primary challenges to take out wayward incumbents the way conservatives have.

      In the nutshell right there.

      • aleth


      • JojoRaze

        And the reason these people don’t have influence is that all they do is whine. As I mentioned on the Political Wire “Obama Caved” thread, these people don’t even run their own local school board, they haven’t done the hard work of government and coalition building, which is why the Dem Senators and Representatives ignore them.

        They are keyboard warriors who whinge and moan, but don’t help to get votes for what they want.

        I was reading threads on DK about the deal and someone mentioned that what more can they expect when the Republicans are nuts? The person also told them that they should join the government and do something about it and the firebagger said “The government is broken, so that’s why I don’t get involved.” They don’t enter the fray because that would take away their purity, but the whine and moan while people do their job for them.

        • conlakappa

          They sound no different from young Rs who claim to not join the service because of bum knee/old football injury. It beggars the imagination while insulting the intelligence of the listener. Part of the solution or part of the problem. But go on with your bad selves, Cheetos-dusted keyboard warriors.

          • JojoRaze

            But go on with your bad selves, Cheetos-dusted keyboard warriors.

            Gotta disagree with you here, ConLaKappa, the PL don’t do Cheetos. It isn’t locally sourced, from organic materials. They seem like Pirates Booty Wisconsin Cheddar Cheesy Puffs sort of people.

          • *tears*

          • Aquagranny911


          • MsKitty

            I actually know people who are dead serious with that too. It’s like they’re on the opposite end of the food spectrum from Sandra “Kwanzaa Cake” Lee, but equally obnoxious. Makes me chuckle every time.

          • JojoRaze

            MsKitty, I live in Foodie central, NYC. Folk in Manhattan and Brooklyn are serious about this locally grown, sourced from organic materials stuff.

            If you packaged poo as “Locally grown and organically sourced and sold it in Union Square Foodmarket, you’d have some buyers.

            That’s why the PL weren’t stressing about $8 per gallon milk. They’re already paying that for their organic milk–it’s only we peons of the lower classes who are drinking that filled with pesticides milk for $3.65 a gallon.

          • MsKitty

            I do have to confess that I’ve had a CSA membership with a local organic farm for the last 4 years, but I got some boxes of DiGiornos and White Castle stashed in the freezer too. I’m all about balance here (lol).

          • JojoRaze

            I love me some Pirates Booty Wisconsin Cheddar Cheesy Puffs. I get it when it’s on sale, or get the $1.99 TJ’s version

          • Aquagranny911

            “If you packaged poo….”

            You have to stop or I will need to hunt out the Depends.


          • Ebogan63

            Portland is the same way,Jojo,LOL!!

          • isonprize

            They seem like Pirates Booty Wisconsin Cheddar Cheesy Puffs sort of people.

            u stoopid!! LOLOLOL

          • conlakappa

            Ha! They do it on the ‘low. Like the rest of their purity, it is all fronting and façade! And I say this as an unapologetic foodie.

        • Aquagranny911

          Dang!!! Can I just “like” your comment one thousand times!?!

          I can’t tell you how many times I have asked the whiners: “Well, what are you doing in your community to make things better?” And all I got back was a blank stare & more complaints.

          I’ve got no use for those who complain without some kind of actual doing.

      • Ebogan63

        News flash to the ‘left’:The Dems get voter rolls from the loc. election offices showing who voted(not how folks voted) if you didn’t vote in the last 3 elections, you are put on ignore That is why these assholes are not listened to.

    • trose1

      Another article who describe/quote “the left” as Adam Green, Robert Reich and Richard Trumka. Why ?

      • conlakappa

        Too scared to ask black, brown, young and/or gyno Americans how we feel? I was at a party today where an older white couple asked my thoughts on the deal. Think I will send the wife some Deaniac stuff. She has a Takoma Park hippie vibe about her but the husband is a retired judge (I went to high school with their daughters and volunteered at OFA with the wife). Very kind people but the wife answers the phones at the White House comments line and probably has to look forward to emoprogs yelling at her like they did during the healthcare debate.

    • gc

      View from the Left – Take your fallacious term” base” and shove it.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda. – -UGH! – –THESE PHOOLS! – — -BUT —MR. HARRY GOT sompin’ 4 dem! – — -HAH —

    – —House Republican Says GOP Will Send Fiscal Bill Back To Senate – –

    – — –On his way out of a House Republican Conference meeting, Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-AL) said the bipartisan “fiscal cliff” compromise will “go back to the Senate,” the National Review’s Robert Costa reports. If true, this would mean the House will not agree with the compromise negotiated Monday by Vice President Joe Biden and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY).

    – –SNIP – —
    — -Update

    With House Republican Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) and other members of his caucus opposing the bipartisan Senate deal, House Republicans are reportedly working to craft an amendment a majority would support. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has vowed to block any further changes to the bill.-THERE IS MORE.

    – -COMMENT: – —Jim Wolf
    I knew this was going to happen. What the President has to do now is tell Harry Reid to bring the original Bill to the floor of the Senate for a vote AFTER the new Senate is sworn in and the Filibuster Rules have been changed. The original bill that the President proposed was a much better one than this POS that he and the Democratic Leadership agreed too last night.
    –Hmm. .
    CHESS ON! :>) – —

    • gc

      “What the president has to do now” Do you secretly write for DKOS, Mr Wolf??

      • GreenLadyHere

        Gc — -LOL – – -I KNOW -HUH. :>) – —

        YET – -I do wonder iff that is a STRATEGY. – –He said that he was gonna direct Mr. Harry 2 PRESENT his –alternative bill — iff there was no approval. —

        DEFINITELY – -WATCHIN’. . . .:>) – –

    • Ebogan63

      Oh, so according to Mr Wolf, 600B in revenue, UE insurance extended, EIC extended, is a ‘POS’?? Go fucking sit down somewhere with that bullshit.

      • conlakappa

        Or agree with your fellow whiners to each sponsor someone who is unemployed. Go on now.

    • nellcote

      I’m tired of these fucking “KILL THE BILL!!!” flashbacks to the health care bill. I cannot believe they’re doing the same damn thing all over again. Fuck the PL and the unicorn they rode in on.

  • GreenLadyHere

    RE da FISCAL TALKS: – – –The HOUSE just left a meeting. BUT – -nobody’s TALKIN’! – – — -humph!

    • nellcote

      Checking the tube periodically during the day to see if there’s any movement and noticed a new nasty gooper Talking Point. They’ve taken to calling senators some variation of “sleep deprived octogenarians”. LOL

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – — -Maybe his TRACK RECORD — -influenced his decision —–

    Lawyer withdraws Sandy Hook suit, may refile – – –

    – — — – –Just days after filing a $100 million lawsuit claiming the state failed to adequately protect the students at Sandy Hook Elementary School, a New Haven lawyer has withdrawn it.

    But that doesn’t preclude a future filing, Irving Pinsky said.

    “I received new evidence on security at the school, which I need to evaluate,” Pinsky said Monday.

    Once that happens, Pinsky said he may re-submit the paperwork to J. Paul Vance Jr., who as the state’s claims commissioner has the authority to determine if a claim is justified and requires hearings. Vance must approve any claim before a state agency can be sued.

    – – -SNIP – —

    Pinsky said once he reviews the evidence, he will decide what “route to take.”

    – – -Hmm. .. I THOUGHT that U LOOK AT da EVIDENCE – -B4 — -U make a decision!! – — -geesh!! – – –

  • GreenLadyHere

    UPDATE on FISCAL TALKS: – – -House is proposin’ an


  • Miranda

    Boehner been stabbed all up and down the back today – Cantor purposefully making him look weak and foolish.

    Robert Costa ‏@robertcostaNRO
    Members email from floor: spending amendment doesn’t have 218. Not likely to pass. Rules getting ready to move on Sen deal as is.

    • rikyrah

      Miranda, Orange Julius hasn’t been seen without his flask for a week now, ever since Plan B blew up in his face

    • Ebogan63

      That’s GAME,SET, MATCH for PBO

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – –MISSED THIS — — –

    — –Obama: Senate deal ‘the right thing to do for our country’ on deficit – —

    – — –President Obama hailed the Senate’s ‘fiscal cliff’ legislation Tuesday as a model of bipartisan compromise ¬– and urged the House to pass the bill “without delay.”

    In a statement after the Senate’s early morning vote, Obama said the bill would help “grow the economy and shrink our deficits in a balanced way.”

    The deal “protects 98 percent of Americans and 97 percent of small business owners from a middle class tax hike,” Obama said.

    The legislation, negotiated by Vice President Biden and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky), was approved in an 89-8 vote just after 2 a.m.

    The deal would extend the Bush-era income tax rates on individuals to $400,000 and family income up to $450,000. It permanently sets the estate tax rate at 40 percent, up from 35 percent, and exempts inheritances below $5 million.

    It would also postpone the automatic spending cuts known as the sequester for two months.

    “While neither Democrats nor Republicans got everything they wanted, this agreement is the right thing to do for our country and the House should pass it without delay,” Obama said.

    – – -THANK U – -MR. PRESIDENT. :>) – –

  • lamh36

    Happy New Year’s POU.

    Dirty Dancing on ABC Family. If ya know me, then you know I’m watching it…lol

    One of my fav scenes from Dirty Dancing. I hate to admit, at first, I was sorta obsessed by the shirt she was wearing in the beginning of this scene. I thought it was cute. Hey, I was like 11 years old. As I got older though, I completely forgot about the shirt…for obvious reason…lol. RIP Patrick Swayze

    • lamh36

      A screen capture from this scene was literally my screensaver and my online avatar FOREVER!

    • lamh36

      can’t mention dirty dancing without this scene.

    • Miranda

      That’s one of the sexiest scenes in cinema history.

    • nellcote

      Nobody sticks PBO in a corner. LOL

  • Miranda

    What leadership looks like:

    Pelosi: House can pass bill with Democratic help

    Echoing her words at a press conference earlier in the day, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) called Tuesday afternoon for an up-or-down vote on the “fiscal cliff” deal passed by the Senate. She wrote on Twitter that she was confident the bill would pass the House with a “strong majority” of House Democrats.

  • Miranda

    Russell Berman ‏@russellberman
    Rep. Nugent says Boehner told members that if amendment didn’t get 218 votes, he would personally vote yes on unamended Senate bill

    • conlakappa

      And this is what will be considered a Profile in Courage by the dimwitted MSM. As I wrote yesterday, the WashPost was already calling him someone who was a nice guy who triumphed in his rise to the Speakership and that he had a very good year. Seriously, he is not considered a nice guy by anyone else.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda — – “COMEDIC TRUTH” – – – -annnd MORE – –

    – – – – — – – –We Survived – —

    – -MORE: – – —As predicted, the House failed to pass a relief funding bill for Hurricane Sandy victims last night.

    The House also hasn’t passed H.R. 8, the American Taxpayer Relief Act (the “fiscal cliff” deal) which passed the Senate last night by a margin of 89 to 8. House Republicans amended the bill to include more spending cuts and sent it back to the Senate. — – –

    – – – — They Don’t Care About Us – – –TRUTH!!

  • Miranda


    Luke Russert ‏@LukeRussert
    #GOP Whip Team member telling me there aren’t enough votes for the amended Senate bill. Later tonight we’ll see Senate bill on flr

  • lamh36

    Dirty Dancing, Burlesquese and The Proposal all on the same day.. This is the best New Year’s Day EVER…LOL

  • GreenLadyHere

    FISCAL TALKS –UPDATE [ Updated: 1/1/13 7:08 PM EST]: – – -Soooo da HOUSE WILL VOTE – -***sigh -Oh LAWD! ***- – –

    – – – –House plans to act on cliff deal

    – – – –Speaker John Boehner is leaving the fate of the Senate-passed fiscal cliff deal in the hands of the House Republican Conference.

    House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy’s (R-Calif.) vote-counting operation is kicking into full gear on Tuesday night — after the country has officially gone off the cliff — to gauge whether 218 Republicans would support amending the Senate bill with a package of spending cuts.

    – – -If there aren’t enough House Republicans who vote to tack on spending cuts, the House will hold an up-or-down vote on the Senate cliff bill that hikes tax rates on income over $450,000.

    – –But an amendment is not expected garner 218 Republicans and the Senate bill will likely come up for a vote on Tuesday evening. If that passes, the Senate bill would likely pass the House — with the heavy help of House Democrats — paving the way for the cliff deal to become law, as President Barack Obama has said he would sign it.

    – – –W-A-T-C-H-I-N’ – – – ->

  • lamh36

    A Coup Before Our Eyes?
    by BooMan

    I’ve been busy celebrating my son’s third birthday this afternoon, so I have had to do a bit of reverse engineering to try to ascertain how things unfolded during the day. As I understand it, the House caucus met once at midday and then again just after 5pm. Ryan Grim’s reporting relates to the first of the two meetings. Apparently, it became clear that there was a division in the leadership team, with Boehner pointing out that the Senate bill passed with overwhelming Republican support and Paul Ryan saying that he opposed the bill. Eric Cantor went further, arguing “vociferously” against the bill, and then going on CNN after the meeting to drive home the point. Rep. Tim Huelskamp of Kansas, who was recently stripped of one of his committee assignments, said that conservatives were “heartened” to see Cantor take on the Speaker in front of the whole caucus.

    Yet, no one is really talking about today’s impasse as part of some kind of coup against Boehner. Jennifer Rubin suggested that Boehner should resign if he can’t get the bill passed, but she didn’t predict that he would. Her point was that he should step down if he can’t lead this group of miscreants. But I am not sure if it is his choice anymore. Losing the battle over Plan B was bad enough, but to have Cantor and Ryan openly defying him in today’s first caucus meeting has to be seen as a clear indication that his power is spent.

    Try to imagine, if you can, Steny Hoyer and Jim Clyburn pulling a similar kind of stunt on Nancy Pelosi. It’s impossible to imagine. That’s why I think we are quite possibly witnessing less of a freak-out over the terms of the deal than we are seeing a palace coup.

    It’s just hard to see how or why the GOP caucus would reelect Boehner as their Speaker if they so obviously do not trust him or want to follow his lead.

    • Miranda

      President Obama has the whole GOP shouting “Toby” and they don’t even know it.

      • rikyrah

        they wouldn’t even get the reference

      • conlakappa

        As he sits back and watches them unravel.

      • AxelFoley

        LOL I’m done.

  • Miranda

    Republicans Prepare For Key Vote On Fiscal Cliff Deal

    Speaker John Boehner breaks with conservative rebels. An almost unheard of moment in the House: Republicans will rely on Democrats to make a deal.

    (the pic of Cantor is just so appropriate…he couldn’t hide his smirk if he tried)

    • gc

      Karma will bite off his little ____.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – – — Watched Sista-NINA TURNER – -Here’s Her – -MOTHER WIT – -of da day:

    When axed – – -WHEN she would begin workin’ on Voter Suppression/Other issues: – – –


    WE gotta start/continue workin’ on THEM NOW!! –LOL – — LUVIN’ HER!!♥ —

  • isonprize

    C-SPAN Live Coverage of House vote:

    • GreenLadyHere

      HEEY isonprize – –***BIG –HAPPY 2013/KWANZAA – – -HUG*** :>)

      Watchin’ —***fist bump** :>)

      Good 2 C U -isonprize. – –[PA RAWKS♥] — –

      – -Ooooooo – –A RE-THUG said the – –C-WORD! – –COMPROMISE!. LOL – —

    • conlakappa

      I feel so not 2013–I have to watch it on my television ’cause it cannot be viewed on a tablet! Some brain cells just died after being subjected to the call-ins from CSPAN viewers. Run-away spending, lady, really? Turn off Faux and get some fresh air.

      • isonprize

        She was a Democrat like I’m a Tea-Re-Thug…whatever, lady, whatever…

  • Miranda

    Ladies and Gentlemen, I present the sheer stupidity of one Mark Halperin:

    Mark Halperin ‏@MarkHalperin
    More Qs. W/Krauthammer against, where are Rush, Sean, Gigot, Palin, Santo, Huckabee, Jeb, Christie on this? Will Rs put forth spending cuts?

    • Kennymack1971

      Even for Halperin that tweet was an embarrassment. .

      • conlakappa

        He’ll do a Weiner [let it go!] and claim that his account was hacked. What does that even mean?!

    • He’s such a groupie.

    • Camille

      Idiot in the midst of other idiots.

  • Oh snap!

    Jonathan Karl @jonkarl
    Cantor split w/ Boehner by opposing the cliff deal, but the more surprising split: McCarthy parting ways w Cantor, supporting Boehner

    • conlakappa

      “It was the smart move…”

    • Miranda

    • I’ve already bought stock in popcorn. I’m going to be rich.

    • JojoRaze

      It seems as if some House Repubs are realizing that if they keep on shanking Boehner, weakening his hand, the Senate will keep on doing their job for them and they don’t get anything that they want. Seems they are realizing they have to back Boehner or they’ll get nothing out of negotiations with the President. They have to stop showing their disdain for PBO and start negotiating in good faith or they’ll get nothing.

      • rikyrah

        Orange Julius threw it to the Senate, not thinking that they could work something out.

        when you fail at passing your own plan..

        abandon responsibility for any sort of a plan..

        if he had backed away from this promise…..

        he really would be done. he might be already, though I don’t think Cantor has the balls to try and unseat him…

    • AxelFoley

      Yond Cantorus has a lean and hungry look. He schemes too much. Such men are dangerous.

      • Camille

        But they eventually get caught and strangled in their own evil web.

        It’s just about that time for Eric Cantor. Oh it’s catch and strangle time for little Eric in his own carefully woven web no less.

  • GreenLadyHere

    mirana – – – -This topic has been posted. – –I jus’ LUV DA PICS – -***tears*** annnd ***smiles*** – —

    – — –Emancipation Images, 150 Years Later – – –

    – – – – – – –On the proclamation’s birthday, read the stories and see rare photos of blacks at the dawn of freedom. – —

    Annnnnnd – – —-The COMMEMORATIVE STAMP – –

    —- –Emancipation Proclamation Stamp: Highlights – – –

    – – – –The U.S. Postal Service joins the National Archives for the 150th anniversary of the Emancipation Proclamation, which President Abraham Lincoln signed on January 1, 1863. To commemorate this historic event on January 1, 2013, USPS introduces a limited-edition Forever Stamp at The National Archives in Washington DC.

    Join presenters A’Lelia Bundles, President of the Foundation for the National Archives, and Ron Stroman, Deputy Postmaster General of the US Postal Service, and Dr. Bernice Johnson Reagon, musician, song talker and scholar, at the public display of the original document on January 1, 2013.


    • conlakappa

      What a serendipitous link. There was a link in that article to Barbara Krauthamer–she is someone I haven’t seen since she was a child! We were at the same girls school in Princeton. She was the only biracial child there [her mother is black, which led to an eye-opening and awkward conversation with a friend whose brother liked her and my friend said it was okay because she was “only half black”] and moved in the privileged world. I am delightfully surprised that slavery is her field of expertise.

      • GreenLadyHere

        conlakappa – — seren. . . – — WHO?? – – I ONLY KNOW 1 – serena. LOL – – –

        OK! – -OK!! –J/K. LOL – – –

        – – –We were at the same girls school in Princeton. – – -LOOK-AT-CHOO. :>)

        Glad U FOUND her – -again. :>) – — ***HUGS*** :>)

        • conlakappa

          Ha! I was a poor black scholarship child from the city. They had money and lived in the leafy suburbs. Like I said, she was the subject of a weird conversation. That person had been one of my two closest school friends [my worlds rarely collided] but I gave her more than the usual amount of side-eye after that! My tart response to her was, “I thought she is okay because she is only half white!

          • TyrenM

            Princeton baby, By Any Means Necessary.

  • Miranda

    The House GOP thought they had a hostage today and then realized the gun was pointed at their own temple.

    • conlakappa

      Sounds very Wile E. Coyote, doesn’t it? Or Daffy [“Duck season!”].

  • Miranda

    West Wing Reports@WestWingReport
    Winter 2012: GOP candidates refuse to support idea of $10 cuts for $1 revenue. Winter 2013: Senate GOP agrees to $41 revenue for $1 cuts


    • rikyrah

      hee hee hee.


    • GreenLadyHere

      miranda – – – –WHEW LAWD. – —A L-O-O-O-N-G – – -TIME – – —FLIP-FLOP!! – — LOL – —

  • GreenLadyHere

    – –Ms. NANCY is ON DA FLOOR— -IShe ROSE –2 SUPPORT the SENATE AGGREEMENT! :>) – – -Woo! Hoo! – —

    — -“B” – – -Give HER HER GAVEL —-BACK!! – – -SHE IS a LEADER! – -YES! :>) —

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – — -***pattin’ my foot*** – –THEY NEEDTA hurry UP! — -:>) – –



  • gc

    Haha they are sleepy. Nya Nya welcome to the RW. Is the dude in the back and to the left awake?

  • aleth

    Debt ceiling = defense cuts GOP.

    You cannot be crazy all the time….

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – – -Confession – –Don’t know her. — -BUT —SHE in ENEMY TERRITORY – — KICKIN’ BUTT! —-

    – – –On Fox, Democratic Strategist Blames Republicans And Congress: ‘What’s Happening In D.C. Is Piss Poor’ – —

    – — Jehmu Greene, Democratic commentator and Fox News contributor, said Tuesday that “what is happening in D.C. is piss poor and pathetic.” She slammed House Republicans for forgetting their “serious responsibility of making government work.”

    The blame, she said, “doesn’t end with Republicans” but it does start with them. Greene cited the news media, freshman members of Congress, and even voters for putting “insurgents” in our legislative body.

    Host Rick Folbaum asked Republican Strategist Dee Dee Benkie whether Greene’s characterization was fair, and Benkie responded that it wasn’t. “Washington is to blame,” she said, not just Republicans.

    The one thing Greene and Benkie agreed on, however, was that the “solution is women.” It’s time to “get rid of men,” Green said. “Americans are fed up and they want solution-oriented problem solvers.” – –I guess. :>) Though I generally don’t get into the “gender debates.” — -EXCEPT when WE R LEFT OUT! :>) – –

    • aleth

      Oh please she should have started with fox news.

    • conlakappa

      Dee Dee Benkie [is this even a real name?], um, who comprises Washington?

  • rikyrah

    looking at this video, I hope those doing the Marvin Gaye story will cast Taraji P. Henson as Tami Terrell

    • AxelFoley

      Ooh, good pick.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – – – –***BIG SIGH*** – – — RECORDING: – -15 MIN. –VOTE:

    YAYS – –in da LEAD – — – – -GET YA PENS READY annnd

    YA – -BAGS PACKED! – –MR. PRESIDENT!! – – -Woo! Hoo! – – –

    – — – – -100 YAYS – – — 54 –NAYS — –

    • nellcote

      So I guess that Bully Pulpit thingy worked? 😉

      Oh crap, the PL and the msm is gonna speculate on the debt ceiling for the next three months. I don’t think I can stand much more of this circular bullshit.

      I hope to see Christie come out blasting the house for not passing Hurricane Sandy relief.

  • Why are fireworks going off a day late?

    Oh wait, that’s the sound of right-wing heads exploding.

    • GreenLadyHere

      HEEYLTMidnight. – –***BIG – –HAPPY 2013/KWANZAA – –HUG*** :>)

      — -LOL – –GR8 ONE!! —-LOL – –THANKS 4 da laff. :>) – —

      Good 2 C U. :>) – —Have a good 2013! :>) – –

  • The Senate Bill Passed!

  • rikyrah

    Orange Julius:
    1. voted for it
    2. violated the Hastert Rule


    • nellcote

      Cantor voted against. Paul Ryan voted for!

      • JojoRaze

        The House Repubs running around confuzzled now, wondering how PBO got them to vote for tax increases on the wealthy, including PEP and Pease, AND enact PBO’s stimulus tax cuts for five years!

  • This was so unnecessary.

    Shawna Thomas @shawnanbcnews
    Inbox: The Congressional Black Caucus Reluctantly Supports Senate Amendment HR 8.

    • crazycanuck

      I don’t understand that tweet.

    • nellcote

      Any new blood in the CBC next congress?

      • rikyrah

        new guy from Nevada

    • conlakappa

      Meanwhile, the CBCF is holding an inaugural gala, for which the price nor the program was part of the announcement. Wonder if any CBC members will unleash themselves reluctantly from their anger and resentment to attend.

    • Camille

      Why are we still surprised by this silliness?

  • gc

    Could have my glass of bubbly now? Thx for the companionship, POUers, ‘Night!

  • GreenLadyHere

    MEDIA ALERT: –MR. PRESIDENT WILL SPEAK — -11:20 pm – -EST!! – –

    • nellcote

      He better not be happy or the goopers will say he’s being mean to them. LOL

      • GreenLadyHere

        LOL – – -nellcote – — -***fist bump** – —

        — YA MEAN — -NO GLOATIN’ – – -LOL — –

  • itgurl_29

    Dedicating this one to the President tonight:

  • GreenLadyHere

    – –STANDIN’ – – -“O” – – — -I WILL SIGN the LAW!!

    SHOUT OUT 2 VP Joe —anem! – -LOL

  • goldenstar

    PBO thanked his “extraordinary Vice President.” Joe Chainz looks like he could afford a good night’s sleep after his battlefield experience.

    • JojoRaze

      My respect for Joe Biden has increased exponentially. He was just a good partner for the President in this mess and had his back. Can’t wait for PBO to get back on the plane to HI to get some sleep, spend time with Michelle, Sasha and Malia.

      Alla this drama was completely unnecessary but the Repubs always have hard heads and end up with soft bottoms. Get some rest PBO and chill for the next two weeks.

  • goldenstar

    PBO is on his way back to HI. Good on him!

  • GreenLadyHere
  • rikyrah

    The debt ceiling is gonna be fun.

    not really, but here’s the thing..

    on the one side, you will have the President saying..

    Give me a clean bill..

    on the other side, you will have the lunatics talking about gutting Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid….

    clean bill…

    gutting the social safety net..

    and methinks that there will be few, if any Dems that will allow the nebulous’ oh we need cuts’…

    I believe we will hear the screams of…


  • dannie22

    hello! ive been at work and i just got home!! ive got some catching up to do so i can get the lowdown on the fiscal deal!!

  • rikyrah



  • rikyrah

    Elise Foley ✔@elisefoley
    *leaves for Hawaii* is the new *drops mic*

    • AxelFoley


  • rikyrah

    Peter Baker @peterbakernyt

    For all the complaints from the left, elected Dems disregard them; only 3 Dems in Senate and 16 in House voted no.

  • MonieTalks

    Jessica Yellin had the nerve to say PBO is a horrible negotiator, is lucky to have VP Biden and is in a tight spot having to talk about debt reduction as a Democrat since debt reduction is a essentially a Republican argument

    Ummm, where has this chick been when the GOP was running the deficits all up and around…the GOP does not own the debt reduction argument, there asses are CENTRAL to high deficits and have been historically.

    • conlakappa

      They have to say something in lieu of “we were wrong… again.”

    • Ebogan63

      PBO done drank the GOP’s milkshake and has been doin’ it for the past 4 yrs. Yellin can have a seat.

      • conlakappa

        As can her hologram.

      • isonprize

        h/t TOD…

        Obama Drinks Your Milkshake

    • aleth

      They keep tripping…all to just have a white guy to anoint instead of the black man. They forget Obama also has a strategy, one that includes setting up his vp for 2016 should he decide to run…

      If he was so horrible how did he win it? They keep moving their goalposts… Payroll tax now before it was 400, now it’s Biden…

      They need to give up on their desire to make him invincible… It’s it funny the terrible negiotion meme comes from the left…useless pieces of shit…

      Me jeep to the history books

    • GreenLadyHere

      MonirTalks – – -***BIG – -HAPPY 2013/KWANZAA – -HUG*** :>)

      –I HEARD THAT!! – – – -WHA’? – – – -I said in the beginnin’ that – -MR. PRESIDENT –SENT – -VP Joe IN — -with da PLAYS!! —–

      SHOULDA KNOWN that – – -SOME – —WARPED LITTLE MINDS – — would C THIS!! – — – —

      NEVA UNDERESTIMATE da POWER of – – -RACISM!! – – -YEAH!! – – -RACISM!! —

      Good 2 C U –MonieTalks. :>) BLESS U.FAM♥ – —

    • Camille

      She’s an idiot.

      You stick a microphone in any one of these media idiots hands and they all begin to hallucinate and imagine they’re Einstein.

      Jessica Yellin should take her sorry, insecure, John King dumping arse and go hide someplace.

      She is not even worthy to clean Michelle Obama’s shoes little less be in President Obama’s presence.

      • edp4bho

        Bam ! Wham! Thanks, Camille… LOL ! Are any of these folks worth even talking about? For one, they are stupid as all hell- a fourth grader would have better commentary. Second, they are just plain racist. Nobody on God’s green earth will stop me from calling out the racism. I’ve been black too long, and I don’t imagine this shit. Further, thanks to POU and TOD, I don’t have to any longer pay cable to hear what these assholes are still foaming at the mouth about. You all keep me informed and let me know that the struggles continue. I have absolutely no respect for cable chatter. A bunch of dumbasses who got lucky and got a gig paying big bucks to spew garbage for corporations, to a willing dumb-downed audience looking for cheap entertainment and scapegoats for their insecurities. Look for more of the same in 2013, and of course we won’t be surprised of a few sages turning tail for the payouts, right?

  • rikyrah

    Nerdy Wonka @NerdyWonka

    Pres. Obama ran & won on getting taxes raised on the wealthy. For the first time in 20 years, republicans voted to do so. Well played Sir.

  • Alma98

    LOL! DK trolls are running all over the threads at Balloon Juice. They’re being told nobody gives a damn what they think and they are not the base. lol

    • Camille

      Good. They are not the President’s base – never were and never will be. And most never even supported or voted for the President. So to hell with the whole lot of them.

    • AxelFoley

      I was wondering where the influx of new trolls came from. I’d been tossing jabs at them all day yesterday.

  • GreenLadyHere

    – – –HAWAII/FIRST FAMILY – – -HERE HE COMES. :>) – —

    – – -THANK U – – -MR. PRESIDENT. – — -U sooo CARE 4 da PEOPLE. :>)

    – – – – – –NOW WE CAN – -EXHALE. :>) – —

  • aleth
    • Camille

      I remember well. They said then that the Payroll tax holiday was a very bad idea as it would adversely affect Social Security and now they want it??

      You can’t make this shit up.

      Hpy new year fam. May we all have a safe, peaceful, healthy, happy and prosperous year.

  • rikyrah

    Bask in the Glow

    by BooMan
    Tue Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:46:56 PM EST

    For the first time in some of your lives, the House of Representatives just passed a bill that the majority of the majority party opposed. Ordinarily, such votes are not even allowed to happen. And, while technically this vote occurred past midnight (and thus in 2013), this is the first time that Republicans have voted for tax increases since they helped Poppy Bush violate his “Read My Lips” pledge over twenty years ago. The Republicans also voted for stimulative tax credits and an extension of unemployment insurance, in violation of their anti-Keynesian economics absolutism. Insofar as the fever could be broken, it has been broken.
    If you watched the debate in the House, it was clear that the Republicans were absolutely miserable and the Democrats were absolutely giddy. Yet, many respectable voices in the Progressive movement are unhappy. I want to remind you, first of all, that only 16 Democrats in the House voted against this bill. That is only a tiny fraction of the Progressive movement. Unless you think your elected officials are idiots, you probably are wrong to see this as a defeat. This is a bill that was supported by people like Bernie Sanders, Al Franken, Jeff Merkley, Tom Harkin, and Sherrod Brown. If you think that they sold you out, you might be an extremist yourself.

    Yes, it sets us up for a battle over the sequester and the debt ceiling, but that was where we were from the beginning, right? We were going to battle over those things, but also unemployment insurance and progressive tax credits and so much more that we got in this deal.

    The GOP has been splintered, with their leader forced to take the minority position within his own party and then forced to ram it down the throats of his base. If you ever thought you’d see that day, raise your hand. And we need it to happen again to tackle immigration reform or assault weapons or climate change. It may not happen, but this was a prerequisite if it was going to happen.

    Relax. Have a cigar. Bask in the glow.

  • rikyrah

    Obama Tells Republicans to Forget About Causing Another Debt Ceiling Debacle

    By: Jason Easley
    Jan. 1st, 2013

    Instead of taking a fiscal cliff victory lap, President Obama used his statement to land the first blows in the debt ceiling debate.

    Obama praised the bipartisanship of the deal, and specifically mentioned Boehner, Biden, McConnell, Reid, and Pelosi. The president stressed the increase in revenue, and the extension of unemployment benefits. He called the fiscal cliff deal one step, and said that the deficit is still too high. The president said that he is chipping away at the deficit problem, step by step.

    The president said he is very open to compromise, and he believes that we have to find ways to reform Medicare without hurting seniors, but he warned Republicans that we can’t cut our way to prosperity. He mentioned closing tax loopholes for corporations and the wealthy.

    Obama said he will negotiate over many things, but he won’t have another debate with Congress over whether or not we should pay our bills. The president said we can’t go down the path of another fiscal cliff drama again. He said that his concept of everyone should pay their fair share has now been enshrined into law.

  • rikyrah

    Conservatives Freak Out, Call for Boehner to be Fired and Blame Obama

    By: Sarah JonesJan. 1st, 2013

    Ideology crashed into reality tonight after the fiscal cliff vote, and conservatives are utterly miserable. They want Boehner fired and the’re blaming Obama for the House GOP failure.

    At Breitbart, they freaked out over the showdown between “Team Boehner and Team Cantor.” Pointing out Boehner’s weakness now that Plan B failed and he’s had to stand up for the Senate bill, they pointed out, “That means Cantor, who’s wanted the speakership for a long time, could strike now and challenge Boehner in the election for House officeholders on Thursday–or he’ll likely have to wait at least another two years.”

    Inner war on? Check.

    The base hasn’t met the wall yet, and from their tweets, it’s looking like they never will. They want Boehner gone:

  • dannie22
    • Miranda

      He said it with tears streaming and snot running out his nose. LOL

      • rikyrah

        and a drunken slur

  • rikyrah

    What The Howling Left Doesn’t Get: The Fiscal Cliff Deal Is A Huge Strategic Win For Progressives

    Tuesday, January 01, 2013 | Posted by Deaniac83 at 8:04 PM

    So, it’s a done deal. The fiscal cliff deal passed by the Senate in the wee hours of the new year morning has just cleared enough votes in the House. 90% of Democrats voted for it. But that’s not for lack of trying by the Left’s howler monkeys to kill this deal.

    This afternoon, I got an email from, asking me to send an email to my Congresswoman, urging her to oppose the aforementioned deal. And so, of course, I sent her an email urging a vote in favor of the fiscal cliff compromise. What boggles the mind though – although, I suppose I should be used to the intransigence from the Left’s howling crowd demanding flying unicorns from the president – is what possibly could be keeping a group like MoveOn and its ideologue brotheren from supporting the deal.


    Let’s get serious. This bill is a big win for the Democrats. Not just in terms of being able to raise taxes on the rich, but this is a big strategic victory. That strategic victory cannot be underestimated. The first, and biggest strategic victory was this: we finally decoupled the tax provisions of the cliff from the spending cuts provisions. This means that Republicans no longer have a hostage. They can no longer hold the middle class hostage to help out the super rich. This is the biggest of losses for them. The president was masterful in devising this strategy to disarm them.

    Consequently, when the sequester comes up again, Republicans will have no leverage when they want to prevent the defense cuts. They will not be allowed to move over the defense cuts into domestic cuts, and if they want to restore the defense cuts, or want replace or add to the domestic cuts, the president has already outlined what he will insist on: even more revenue. The Republicans are trying to take this medicine of total and disastrous loss by pretending they would be able to force austerity cuts later. Not a chance. If the Republicans don’t play ball, it will be much easier for the president and the Democrats to let the automatic cuts take place – which is the biggest on defense – when there is no big hits to the middle class taxes or unemployment benefits coupled with it.

    Another big strategic victory not to be overlooked is that this vote gets Republicans to finally throw the Norquist pledge under the bus, and abandon their seriously antidemocratic screed of not allowing votes on anything that does not have a support of a majority of the Republican caucus. This vote breaks the back of that Republican obstructionism. This isn’t to say that they will not be obstructionist later again, but it spells success for the president’s political strategy: if you back the Republicans into a corner, and go around the House Republicans to work out a compromise with the Senate, you can force them to vote even without a “majority of the majority.” This bodes well for the upcoming fights, whether it’s on immigration reform, gun safety, energy policy reform, education reform, or another item on the president’s second term agenda.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda — -WOW&1/2 – – –PRESSES ALL OVA –THIS WIN!!. – –Oooooweeee! – – –

    — –Obama Gets a Big Win as House Republicans Get Buried by Fiscal Cliff Cave In – – –

    – —After much bluster and drama, the Republican divas in the House of Representatives caved, and gave President Obama what he wanted on the fiscal cliff.

    It took a day of drama, and no less than two conference meetings, for John Boehner to get enough Republican votes to pass the fiscal cliff deal. By passing this deal, House Republicans demonstrated that the only tool they have left in their toolbox is the empty threat. Speaker Boehner talked tough on the fiscal cliff for weeks, but when push came to shove, he dragged his caucus kicking and screaming towards sanity. 85 Republicans voted for the bill. (Boehner didn’t let the vote happen because it was the right to do for the country. The vote happened because Boehner saw that fiscal cliff was 8 ton mega warhead that was set to destroy his party.)

    By a vote of 257-167, the fiscal cliff deal passed the House.<

    – —The real House hero was Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, who once again showed her colleagues what a real leader looks like by holding her caucus together and delivering the votes needed for passage. (Only 16 Democrats voted against the bill.)– – —

    – -Geesh – —VP Biden Ms. Nancy —even da "B" – –heroes?? – – — —

    – — -MR. PRESIDENT – – -ORCHESTRATED annnd LED da FLPPIN' CHARGE!! – –He's BEEN trynta – – -DO THIS – –4 EVA!! – –in order 2 PREVENT THIS – –BLUSTER annnd DRAMA!! – —

    C[MON PEOPLE!! – – -CREDIT WHERE – -DUE!!! — – – –

  • Camille

    Safe travels Mr. President.

    Now go spend some quiet relaxing quality time with your wife.

  • Miranda

    Joshua Holland ‏@JoshuaHol
    Profiles in courage >> RT @markknoller: Top House Republicans, Boehner Cantor, McCarthy, decided not to speak during debate on ‘cliff’ bill.

  • Miranda

    Sarah Reese Jones ‏@srjones66
    Also, it’s trash day. Goodbye Allen West and Joe Walsh.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda — – -A POSITIVE PERSPECTIVE – – -YES!! – -:>) – – — –

    – – –How Obamacare Influenced Policy Making in 2012
    – – –Originally published by VOXXI as “How the Affordable Care Act influenced policy making in 2012.”

    The Affordable Care Act (ACA) survived both Supreme Court scrutiny and the presidential election during 2012, making the reform policy one of the most influential pieces of legislation since its introduction back in March of 2010.

    Since that time, the ACA has had an important role in many national developments, including what The Farragut Square Group identified as the top 5 health care-related policy decisions during the year 2012. – –

    “The year 2012 will go down in history as one of the most important for health care policy because of the legal and political decisions that insured the historic — and controversial — Affordable Care Act or ‘ObamaCare’ will actually become law,” said Farragut Square Group President Brian Fortune in statement accompanying release of the list, reported by PhysBizTech. ”It also set the stage for major budget battles that will significantly impact healthcare funding and fundamental healthcare reforms into the future.”

    ☻ Supreme Court ruling: During 2012, 26 states took the federal government to court, claiming the Affordable Care Act was in breach of constitutional rights by demanding citizens enter into contracts with private companies in an effort to provide insurance to the masses. – – – SNIP – –
    After the hearings, the Supreme Court upheld the health law with a few minor exceptions, ensuring an additional 30 million people in the U.S. would receive health insurance coverage by 2014. – –[NEXT YEAR!! – –Woo! Hoo!]
    – –☻-Supreme Court makes Medicare expansion optional:
    – – ☻-The fiscal cliff: While the fiscal cliff is not solely about health care, much of the monies being debated are tied up to the health care system. More than 1,000 government programs are scheduled to take financial cuts should the fiscal cliff not be agreed upon by deadline.
    – – -☻ -The Medicare fix: Much focus in 2012 was on the Medicare program, especially with the future of the health insurer up in the regarding the year 2024. By that date, at the current rate of expense, the Medicare fund will be completely exhausted. While much of the 2012 election centered on Medicare expansion, the focus gradually shifted toward fixing the Medicare program rather than changing it completely.



  • GreenLadyHere


    – — -CONGRATULATIONS 2 OUR BELOVED PRESIDENT. – — -He is BLESSED. :>) – –Annnd WE DA PEOPLE [co] —R BLESSED. :>) AMEN. :>) – – –

    UNTIL the MORNIN’ LIGHT ♥:>) – – –