May 23, 2013

Tuesday Evening Thread: Romney vs Reality: Auto Recovery Edition

May 8, 2012 by 88 Comments

(h/t Rikyrah)

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  • Miranda

    Kansas Bill Permits Doctors to Refuse to Administer Chemotherapy to Pregnant Cancer Patients

    The Kansas Senate has approved a bill that literally prioritizes a doctor’s personal beliefs over women — currently alive, breathing women — by permitting doctors and other healthcare providers to refuse medical care to a pregnant woman if such care might end her pregnancy. And here’s the kicker: the healthcare provider would not be under any obligation to refer the patient elsewhere.

    *blank stare*

    So, if a woman develops breast cancer while pregnant, or if a woman with breast cancer becomes pregnant, her doctor could refuse to provide chemotherapy treatment to her, and the doctor would not have to tell her why she was being refused to treatment and would not have to refer the patient to another doctor who would provide chemo.

    more here
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/05/08/kansas-bill-permits-doctors-to-refuse-to-administer-chemotherapy-to-pregnant-cancer-patients/#.T6mg4wERsZg.twitter

    • rikyrah

      I think I read it 3 times before it actually sunk in.

      W-T-F?

      • Miranda

        When folks say the elections are a matter of life or death…its not hyperbole.

        • rikyrah

          and then folks want to ‘poo poo’ folks who call it like it is:

          GOP WAR ON WOMEN.

    • dannie22

      i think im leaving this country. its gone too far backwards

    • crazycanuck

      WOW, People have truly gone insane

      • dannie22

        I cant wait to move to your country LOL

    • QOakaJP

      Crazy. We can’t even take our own life-saving health into our hands anymore? Talk about “death panels.” Incidentally, I was just was reading an article about how AA’s, in general, and especially AA women, are often not offered the full array of cancer treatments available…

      • isonprize

        QoakaJP, True!! The buzz phrase to research is “Healthcare Disparities”

        When it comes to most every diagnosis from autism to cancer, from alzheimer’s to diabetes, black folk get diagnosed later, get treated less and die earlier/ more often.

    • GreenLadyHere

      miranda —-UN – -FLIPPIN’ – –BELIEVABLE!!!! — – - -

      Would THIS occur under the ACA?? – - -Prolly – -NOT!! – -But I’ll hafta check..

      – - -Soo SORRY 4 this situation. Prayin’ 4 her annnd patients in similar situations. AMEN.

    • conlakappa

      Every day a new chapter in The Handmaid’s Tale.

  • Miranda

    WOW

    Jamie Dupree ‏ @jamiedupree
    As of now, 45 House members and 11 Senators won’t be back in their jobs next year – and it’s only May 8th

  • rikyrah

    Watching the Ed Show, and he had Fineman on.

    Ed asked why Willard didn’t say SHYT about the auto bailout WHILE HE WAS IN MICHIGAN TODAY.

    I thought that was the funniest post I read today..

    Yesterday, he was being all big and bad and ‘ the auto bailout was my idea’ in Ohio.

    24 hours later he gives a 2,500 word speech and doesn’t say ‘ auto bailout’.

    Willard is such a coward. He truly thought that he could say anything, and nobody would fight back.

    You were dealing with amateurs and grifters, Willard.

    But, NOBODY is playing with you at the Prudential Building.

    • Miranda

      And amazingly his speech writer really didn’t think anyone would notice.

  • GreenLadyHere

    Miranda – - -Good EVENING- —-LOL – — -The “DELUSIONAL ONE” – -

    “Surely U jest!!” – -LOL – —BUT – –U wouldn’t KNOW! LOL – - -

    – — – -BECAUSE – –he – – -FLIP – - -LOPS! – - – -he will DENY THIS —2-morrow. :>) LOL.

    — —–the ALTERNATIVE??? – - –HAH!! – - -

  • lamh35

    Mark my words, next faux-outrage, DNC Convention shouldn’t be in North Carolina! Who will be the first to say that? I have my bets!

    • Miranda

      Oh its definitely gonna be some hyperventilating over the convention being in Charlotte….but I think Mecklenburg County voted against the Amendment so the folks in Charlotte can safely say “wasnt us”

      • Bri

        I don’t live in NC, but people cannot blame “us” for it’s passage. Many black NC said they voted against it.

      • Admiral_Komack

        Yeah, that’ll stop them :-(

    • Bri

      POTUS and Debbie will definitely get pressured to move it to another state. It’s unfortunate that Admendment 1 passed.

      • crazycanuck

        It passed, Hmm, have they started blaming AA yet?

        • QOakaJP

          Blame hasn’t stopped since 11/4/08.

          • Bri

            The blame won’t stop either. We are a small percentage of the U.S. population, but many blame us like we are the majority or close to being it.

          • edp4bho

            They still blame us for putting ourselves into slavery. Nothing new.

          • Heads-on-right-in-Cali

            Wonder why Good Ole Bill Clinton never had to deal with the outrage over LBGT rights? Hell, he’s the one responsible for DADT. No the “black president” has to take the heat. Cracks me up that as a people, we are expected to always “turn the other cheek” while others try to destroy us. It is up to the people of North Carolina to stop discrimination in their state. The President of the United States, has a lot of other shit to do.

          • QOakaJP

            Not only do they not blame Clinton, they’re now using the old “even the Clintons said…” angle to lay blame and shame on PBO for not speaking in the ways they deem acceptable (his hard work to advance LGBT rights over the past 3 years be damned.)

        • Alma98

          They better not NC is almost 70% white, 68.5% to be exact.

          • Camille

            Never stopped them.

            Prop 8 in California. 6% black. Only 3% of whom vote. But didn’t stop the vicious attacks on African Americans.

          • Bri

            I had to look up the percentage of AA in CA back in 08′ after seeing Maddow, MHP, etc., go all in on us for Prop 8 passing. AA make up about 13%(38 million) of this country’s population according to the 2010 U.S. Census, but man we sure as heck get blamed like we are “deep” in the U.S.

        • Admiral_Komack

          You took the words out of my mouth.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY Bri. ***BIG HUG** :>)

        – -WHAT’S that sound? – - OH. NEVAMIND – —

        It’s- -The – -PL’s anem – - – BLAMING MR. PRESIDENT!! –humph!! –

        – -WAITIN’ – - – -4 it in writing. – –***tsk*** ***eye roll***

        Good 2 C U -Bri. :>)

    • Kennymack1971

      Oh the fauxgressives are absolutely going to run with this. Every fauxgressive site will be demanding that the DNC move the convention out of Charlotte.

    • isonprize

      it’s already been said. I gotta remember where I read/heard it…

      • conlakappa

        It is a given that there are multiple diaries on the orange about it, innit?

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – - – -GR8 BLACK HISTORICAL NEWS – - – -

    – - -National Cathedral to install statue of Rosa Parks – - -

    – - – -Washington National Cathedral is preparing to dedicate a new carving of civil rights pioneer Rosa Parks in a section of the church devoted to human rights.

    The Episcopal cathedral formally installs the new sculpture Thursday with a ceremony of evening prayer songs. The carving of Parks will join others on the cathedral’s Human Rights Porch that celebrates those who struggled to bring equality and social justice to all people. Other figures include former first lady Eleanor Roosevelt.

    One of Parks’ nieces, Rhea McCauley, will join the ceremony, along with Elaine Eason Steele, co-founder of the Rosa and Raymond Parks Institute for Self Development.
    THERE IS MORE. :>)

    – - – -CONGRATULATIONS 2 the FAMILY. – - – -WELL DESERVED!

  • Miranda

    there are some really upset folks in Switzerland tonight.

    Michele Bachmann claims Swiss citizenship

    Rep. Michelle Bachmann is now officially a Swiss miss.

    Bachmann (R-Minn.) recently became a citizen of Switzerland, making her eligible to run for office in the tiny European nation, according to a Swiss TV report Tuesday.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76072.html#ixzz1uKa6pJbN

    • crazycanuck

      Poor Swizterland. I feel for them lol, but I’m glad she didn’t come here.

    • crazycanuck

      Poor Swizterland. I feel for them lol, but I’m glad she didn’t come here.

    • Admiral_Komack

      Swiss Miss.

      • Aquagranny911

        She and SwissMitt Square Jeans can….Oh I can’t finish that…..

    • conlakappa

      Wasn’t she trying to bring back HUAC hearings? Americans are not supposed to seek dual citizenship.

      • Admiral_Komack

        Why…it’s un-AMERIKKAN!

    • rikyrah

      what she got against AMERICA.

      being an AMERICAN isn’t good enough for her?

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – - – -JUSTICE WILL B SERVED – — – – -

    – - -Final Student of 11 Charged in FAMU Hazing Case Turns Herself in —

    – - – –The last of 11 band members charged in the hazing death of a Florida A&M drum major has turned herself in to authorities.

    The Florida Department of Law Enforcement says 20-year-old Lasherry Codner surrendered Sunday at the Orange County jail.

    Jail records showed that Codner posted $15,000 bond and would be released.

    – -Eleven FAMU band members face third-degree felony hazing charges from Robert Champion’s death in November. Two others face misdemeanor counts.

    Champion died aboard a charter bus outside an Orlando hotel. His death revealed a culture of hazing at the Tallahassee school and has jeopardized the future of its prestigious Marching 100 band.
    THERE IS MORE.

    – - -RIHEP – - -Robert Champion. Sooo SORRY.

  • lamh35

    Ok, here’s the thing, I am now going to have to put TOD in the same column as JJP (sorry rikyrah), while I am gonna leave it on my blog roll, I’m not gonna be commenting as much there for awhile. It’ll still be my go to place for pictures and updates, but it’s become obvious (please check out Chips new post) that despite another BWD freak-out, that Chips has bought it hook line and sinker and it doesn’t matter that BWD has on a daily/weekly/monthly basis has a different freak out and demands she can do no wrong and it is everyone else’s fault for being mean to BWD?

    Whatever! I’m through for a while now, I’m going to lurker status as of tomorrow.

    ETA: and please people who comment over at TOD too spare me the but BWD…. I’ve had enough and I don’t wanna hear it.

    Good night POU.

    • RinaX

      I agree with you. I had stopped posting there for the most part anyways because I was tired of a certain troll being allowed to continue posting there simply because they’re smart enough to post a lot of news articles along with their trolling. But I was through with BWD a long time ago. One thing I can’t stand is someone who’s always throwing a tantrum and threatening to leave, and I can’t count the number of times she’s done that.

      Now, BWD was a bright spot when the GOS really went to crap, but you can’t keep relying on your past reputation every time you decide to go full emoprog, and then whine when people aren’t just patting your hair and telling you how great you are.

      • Camille

        Amen!

        • GreenLadyHere

          HEEY SisCamille. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

          So lemme axe: — –Was/IS it the case that these 2 persons posted 4 ACCOLADES – - – annnd NOT 4 SUPPORTING –MR. PRESIDENT??

          Annnd/ orrr was their – - -CHANGE based on the desire 2 become POPULAR with the PL’s? anem??- -

          — -***BEYOND –furrowed brow*** :>)

          Good 2 C U. :>)

          • Aquagranny911

            GLH, I think this was about supporting personal egos & forcing people to agree rather than supporting our Prez. It was a stupid time wasting side issue when Congress was busy shooting down loans for college students & the media & Mittster were lying their nasty asses off about everything.

            That’s just my opinion & my two measly pesos.

          • GreenLadyHere

            HEEY Aquagranny911. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

            — -THANK U. Hmmm. . —

            TANGLED WEB – - –DECEIVE! – —

            — –GET – - -GOT!! – –SAD!! – -

            Good 2 C U. – - -AG. :>) Again, Thank U. :>)

          • crazycanuck

            Agreed, and they fell for it hook, line and sinker.

          • Admiral_Komack

            Or, hook, line, and sucker.

          • Camille

            Hey Sis!

            The threat to shut down does indeed beg the question. Was it set up to support President Obama or to stroke the egos of fickle know it all’s.

          • GreenLadyHere

            THANK U – –SisCamille. – - -

            SUCH a SHAME. THEY R sooo TALENTED. – - – -Hmmm. . …

            Good 2 C U. :>)

    • edp4bho

      Dang, lamh, you and I are on the same page. Was just thinking this about 25 minutes ago….LOL. And you are so right about BWD. In fact, I’m tired of all this bullshit. I just began watching cable again due to we have 6 months to deal with to November, but all this shit is taking up way too much of my precious time. Too many have put BWD on a pedestal and cried with her when she was run off of KOS. Cry me a river. And now here’s LOD dramatizing the new so-called swift boat bs from rethugs. Lord knows, I’ve never liked politics, and these creatures remind me just why I don’t. As soon as PBO is out, so am I.

      • Bri

        BWD’s response on SSM is why Dems LOSE. She is trying to FORCE his hand on a topic that he obviously is not trying to discuss in great detail. I am pretty sure many over at TOD will be demanding soon that the DNC convention is moved.

        • Admiral_Komack

          Also, IF President Obama were to do EXACTLY what the emoprogs wanted him to do on this subject, the emoprogs would just trot out Dan Choi and his latest chain-link fence to sniff that it wasn’t enough, he should have done it years ago, he’s just a politician, he was pandering, it’s an election year, and why didn’t we all get our pony that shits sparkles…

          Fuck them.

          Let Willard have his way with them.

        • edp4bho

          Yep. She proved who she was….the very thing she says she detests.

    • Aquagranny911

      I’m with you lamh! I will go for the pics & the links to PBO but I am done with the comments & the BS.

      • crazycanuck

        It’s sad that Chipsticks doesn’t see how extremely condescending that post was. Saying things to a grown man like he was five years old. That was such a WTF moment for me.

        Still can’t believe she rubber stamped that nonsense. She seems to be upset at the responses to the post. So BWD can post any foolishness, and everyone should just say “oh bwd we totally agree”.

        IMO any PL who comes on that blog posting their purity crap should not be told to leave, because it’s pretty dam clear she agrees with that kind of thinking. Quite frankly it put a ‘stain’ on that blog for me.

        • TheShyLurker

          Yeah. I’mma have to dock TOD 47 points for today.

          And I don’t even think people were rude to BWD to be honest, as way the moderator described it. Folks were respectful but stern. And frankly, tired of her BS. But she is teacher’s pet so what do I know.

          The moral of the story is: If one’s thoughts are front paged, don’t expect errebody to kiss that ass! I wish Chipsticks hadn’t done that, it only exacerbated the issue resulting PUSHBACK.
          Well deserved comeuppance, imo.

          I respect the passion, but not the knee-jerk PL conforming freakout sessions this chick is prone to. That’s why I loves me some POU. Y’all tell it like it is – without the follicle plucking.

          • crazycanuck

            You have a way with words. I totally agree, I don’t think people were disrespectful either.

            I love POU also, this blog just rocks. Smartest peeps on the net.

          • edp4bho

            Must agree. POU is the ticket !!

        • Camille

          Everybody seems to think that showing any support for this President automatically means you get dictate his every move.

        • edp4bho

          “Quite frankly it put a ‘stain’ on that blog for me.”

          Did it for me too. I’ll check out the pictures for what they’re worth, but that was a pot calling the kettle black moment for me. The original post was disgraceful and had no real place in a public setting. It was, after all, a personal letter to PBO. It should have remained so. It was posted as a way to get sympathy- how deceitful !

    • MsKitty

      Against my better judgment I went over and saw that post. Really? You put up something incendiary and divisive and then catch the vapors when people call you out on it? That’s some real passive aggressive bullshit right there. I CAN’T STAND IT when people do it in real life, I’m sure as hell not going to willingly subject myself to it.

      That was the final nail in the coffin for me. TOD now goes in my virtual dustbin with DKos, Balloon Juice, Field Negro, among others. There’s a kazillion other sites where I can get PBO video and pics, so no great loss at the end of the day.

  • Camille

    Ed Rendell is a slimy, dishonest creep and a coward.

    Grins on Rev Al’s show and runs to Morning joke to start up his nonsense man up attack on President Obama after he said just the opposite on Politics Nation just yesterday.

    Rendell is a sorry has-been that should never have been who is NEVER coming back. NEVER.

    • Heads-on-right-in-Cali

      He’s just still pissed his girl Hillary did’nt win. Gotta try and tear a brother down a notch. President Obama is heads and shoulders above the rest, including some Democrats. Remember, he’s talking to “different people”, on different programs, at different times, no surprise. They are who they are.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY Heads-on-right-in-Cali. – –***BIG HUG*** :>)

        —THIS – —>He’s just still pissed his girl Hillary did’nt win.

        U! AIN’T! NEVA! — LIED!! :>)

        Also – –he EXPECTED an “appointment” from MR. PRESIDENT. THAT DI-ENT happen –either! HAH! :>)

        MR. PRESIDENT – –KNEW!! LOL.

        He is jus’ another – — Ssssssssnake!! LOL!!

        Good 2 C U. :>)

    • isonprize

      No accident his nickname is “Fast Eddie” LOLOL

    • edp4bho

      Just caught that. I posted above. LOD showed him.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda — -GOOD ECONOMI NEWS! – –[apologies iff a dup] – —

    – - -U.S. to run first surplus since 2008: CBO
    Surplus is first of Obama’s presidency     – - -

    — – -The U.S. government recorded a budget surplus of $58 billion in April, the Congressional Budget Office estimated on Monday, breaking a streak of deficits that began in 2008.

    The surplus — the first of Barack Obama’s presidency — was the result of both increased tax collection and lower government spending. Before April, the government had not run a surplus since September 2008, the month that the financial crisis struck the U.S. economy. Read CBO report.

    The CBO’s estimate is released before the Treasury Department’s monthly budget report. That report is scheduled for later this week.

    – -CBO estimated that receipts were $30 billion higher in April than the same month a year ago, due to declining refunds that month and higher corporate income tax receipts. Spending fell by $69 billion compared to April 2011, marked by lower outlays on defense, Medicaid and the Postal Service.

    Government spending and deficits are shaping up to be a main issue in the presidential campaign, and the monthly surplus is a piece of good news for Obama. Read more about Election 2012.

    For the first seven months of the fiscal year, the CBO estimates that the Treasury will notch a deficit of $721 billion. That’s $149 billion less than the red ink reported for the same period in fiscal 2011.
    THERE IS MORE.

    – - – — THANK U – - -MR. PRESIDENT!! – —YES! U! CAN! – –TAKE CREDIT!! :>) – - – - — -

    – –WATCH – -teh willard 2-morrow! LOL

    — -I’m sorry! – - HAVE WE SEEN THIS in the MSM?? – - – -NO!!

  • isonprize

    WHY YOU GOTTA LIE SON?

    bwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

  • lamh35

    So I’ve been discussing on twitter just how “Inaccurate” these gay marriage polls have been lately. I think there is a “gay Bradley” effect going on with the polls because for all the increased acceptance, ALL BUT ONE was passed. Even over the phone, people don’t want to come off as homophobic.

    Something is not right and the polls are giving people false satisfaction that just by twitting about it or posting on FB about a subject means that there is no need for “boots on the ground”. The lesson learned from CA Prop 8 was ignored again…GROUNDGAME IS KEY!!!

    • Miranda

      You make WAY too much sense.

    • rikyrah

      according to the ‘polls’, it was supposed to be only a couple of points on the losing side.

      that mofo lost by damn near 20 points.

  • edp4bho

    Per LOD and his mouthpieces, PBO has to lead on the issue, and he’s in a crisis about SSM. They say he’s resisting. Just gonna make him say it, aren’t they?

    • Bri

      We have to get back to talking about the economy ASAP. The longer Democrat hosts go on about SSM, the longer Mitt can keep up with his lies. POTUS talked about student loans today, so Dem hosts need to be talking about it for the week. Democrats stay losing the agenda, which is getting POTUS re-elected. This election is about one thing, the ECONOMY, which is impacting EVERYONE.

      • Aquagranny911

        THANK YOU!!!

    • TheShyLurker

      I didn’t watch all of that segment, I’ll catch it on the rebound but did that broad throw shade at the president’s morals?

      The way she phrased it made my face scrunch up.

      • edp4bho

        Yes, that Anna Cox lady had a smirk of “disappointment” on her pretty little face. Damn her.

    • Lisa M

      LOD saved it in the end of the segment by comparing Dems position on the death penalty. They don’t campaign on it, but they work to change it. He also said something along the lines of Chris Matthews who said that the gay mafia and their allies need to back off if the want to re-elect the President. Even the gay(?) guy on the panel ended the segment touting the unprecedented amount of pro-gay policies the President brought about. If Chris Matthews gets it, then there’s hope for other progs to get it. As an aside, I wish the President would stop talking about evolving and just emulate George Bush on his cocaine use: they said they weren’t going to talk about it and of course the media backed off.

      POTUS and his crew needs to just tell the idiot media that questions about POTUS position on gay marriage has been asked and answered and just leave it at that.

      • Camille

        The President is NOT talking about it. That was his answer to ONE question at a press conference.
        Suddenly everyone is a strategist full of error proof ideas.

      • edp4bho

        I had to re-visit this topic as I am so mad at what’s going on. This is the going topic this morning, and at this point, I figure, if gays can get PBO to tread into the fray on SSM, then all of us who support reparations need to have at it. I know I am running on emotion today, but when does one group take precedent over the history of suffering and demonizing of our forefathers and foremothers who were subjected to horrendous treatment and lost economic, educational, and cultural footing?

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – - — LOL – –COMEDIC TRUTH —–REVISIONIST HISTORY — so SOON?? – -LOL – -

    – — Bonus Cartoon of the Day- Mitt Saved Detroit!! –

    – - – -JOKE of the DAY!! LOL. –

  • Aquagranny911

    Using Romney & reality in the same sentence is a total oxymoron. I once got a bit unnerved by his comments. Now, I just treat them like stuff my crazy Tio from Yuma says.

    I really wish I could keep finding the humor in all this but there are people out there who will actually vote for SwissMitt Square Jeans. That makes me want to run screaming in the streets! But I will just have to put that energy to work for PBO & Dems instead.

  • GreenLadyHere

    mirnd – - –Here’s OUR BELOVED PRESIDENT – - -in ALBANY, NY – - –

    – - -President Discusses Economy in Trip to Albany, New York — –

    – — – -President Obama travelled to New York to discuss the state of the economy. He spoke at the College of Nanoscale Science and Engineering’s Albany NanoTech Complex at the State University of New York in Albany.

    According to a White House release, the “CNSE’s Albany NanoTech Complex is a fully-integrated research, development, prototyping, and educational facility that provides strategic support through outreach, technology acceleration, business incubation, pilot prototyping, and test-based integration support for onsite corporate partners, including IBM, Intel, GlobalFoundries, Applied Materials, as well as other next generation nanotechnology research activities.”

    – - –CORPORATIONS – - – -R DYIN’ 2 COLLABORATE WITH – -MR. PRESIDENT. –HAH! – — -THEY KNOW!! :>) – -

    – - -WE R PROUD of U – -MR. PRESIDENT!♥ – -

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – - -From the White House on the OBSTRUCTIONIST – -RE-THUGS – - – -

    – - -Republicans Vote to Block Student Loan Bill —

    – - – –Today, Senate Republicans blocked legislation that would have prevented interest rates on student loans from doubling at the end of June.

    In a statement to reporters, Press Secretary Jay Carney expressed his dissatisfaction with the vote:

    It is extremely disappointing that Republicans in the Senate today voted to ask millions of students to pay an average of $1,000 each in order to protect a loophole that allows millionaires to dodge payroll taxes. On July 1, more than 7.4 million students across the country will see their interest rates double unless Congress acts.
    THERE Is MORE.

    TELL ‘EM JAY!! – - – - -geesh!!!