October 21, 2017

Tuesday Open Thread- African-American Pioneers in Healthcare

Continuing with this week’s theme, today I am highlighting Lucille Constance Gunning.

Born in 1922 in New York City, Lucille Constance Gunning is a pediatrician who has made important advances in rehabilitating children with disabilities, and in establishing care facilities for children with chronic health problems.

Dr. Gunning grew up in Jamaica, and at age five, was inspired to become a pediatrician. Her aunt, a midwife, was helping with a delivery that went badly. The doctor arrived too late and the baby died. Years later, she would recall the incident remembering everyone’s faith that the doctor would have saved the baby.

Dr. Gunning entered New York University and received her bachelor’s degree in 1945 and her medical degree in 1949 from the Women’s Medical College of Pennsylvania.

In 1971, Dr. Gunning began working at the Harlem Hospital Center, became chief of pediatric rehabilitation and created a developmental center for children with Down’s Syndrome.

Beginning in 1983, she worked for the state of New York as the deputy director of medical services for the Office of Mental Retardation and Developmental Disabilities. In the early 1990s, Dr. Gunning began a position supervising health physicians for school districts in Manhattan.



  • Mornin’ POU!

    Treasury Earns $7.6 Billion From Sale of Last Shares in A.I.G.

    The Treasury Department said on Tuesday that it had sold its remaining stake in the American International Group, earning about $7.6 billion from the sale.

    The government sold the 234.2 million shares at $32.50 each, a small discount from the closing price of $33.36 on Monday. The block of shares represented a 15.9 percent stake in the insurer.

    With the latest sale, taxpayers have gained about $22.7 billion from a bailout that many predicted would prompt a staggering loss. In an effort to stabilize the global banking system, the government rescued A.I.G. just days after the failure of Lehman Brothers.

    MORE: http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/12/11/treasury-earns-7-6-billion-from-sale-of-last-shares-in-a-i-g/

    • GN

      I remember the absolute hysteria of the “progressive” media and insistence that taxpayers would never ever recoup our money from the AIG bailout. Myself, I disagreed with the admin on one thing (allowing entitled and ungrateful AIG executives to retain their bonuses despite the extraordinarily bad health of their company; I thought that was unwise), but the WH administered the (albeit politically distasteful) bailouts almost as well as possible. Kudos to them for making taxpayers a profit.

      • Rootless is having a field day calling out the EmoProgs and PLs! https://twitter.com/root_e

        • GN

          Indeed, he is going *in*. Here are some of his tweets for people who are not on twitter:

          rootless (also a thepeoplesview columnist):

          *All those brilliant progressive economists were right,Geithner lost billions on the deal – oh wait!

          *DailyKos must have run 10million posts about how Geithner gave tax money to “banksters”. Atrios, NakedCapital, etc etc

          *Yves Smith predicted massive public losses on the AIG bailout – but what’s a few tens of billions to a progressive econ blogger?

          *Not ONE single progressive econ pundit has addressed the causes of why Geithner was right and they were so wrong. Reality based – ha ha.

          *Where is Yves Smith to explain how those AIG shares really were not sold? The Geithner/Rothschild/Masons tricked us!

          *Won’t Bobswern from DailyKos expose how the AIG shares were purchased with worthless fiat money and fluoridated water?

          *Where’s Nomi Prinz to tell us how Goldman-Sachs really controls Geithner via radio signals from the moon?

          *How about interviewing Krugman, Atrios, Taibbi, Yves Smith, about why their AIG bailout analysis was so deeply wrong?

          Just like the far right, being an emoprog means never having to acknowledge being wrong, simply “doubling down” on more bullshit and moving the goalposts.

          • jds09

            lol. The Bobswern comment is the best, he’s a demigod over there. lol

          • conlakappa

            I know! I had totally forgotten about that financial wizard there.

  • Obama Approves Health Insurance Marketplaces in 6 States

    WASHINGTON — The Obama administration gave conditional approval on Monday to health insurance marketplaces being set up by six states led by Democratic governors eager to carry out President Obama’s health care overhaul.

    The six are Colorado, Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, Oregon and Washington.

    At the same time, the administration rejected pleas from other states that want to carry out a partial expansion of Medicaid, to cover fewer people than the president and Congress originally intended. Some states want to expand Medicaid to cover childless adults with incomes up to the poverty level, $19,090 for a family of three.

    But Cindy Mann, the top federal Medicaid official, said the federal government would pay the full cost of newly eligible Medicaid beneficiaries only if a state raised the threshold to 133 percent of the poverty level — or 138 percent, with an adjustment allowed by federal law. This would guarantee Medicaid coverage for a family of three with income less than or equal to $26,340.

    Matt D. Salo, the executive director of the National Association of Medicaid Directors, which represents state officials, summarized the administration’s position this way: “No partial expansion of Medicaid. No phased-in expansion. It’s all or nothing.”

    MORE: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/11/us/obama-approves-health-insurance-marketplaces-in-6-states.html

    • rikyrah

      I would love it if the Feds set up a regional exchange. Just cover all the folks in those Southern States with idiot Governors in one fell swoop. Make ’em choke on their ignorance and maliciousness.

      • qosine

        I would love that, living in TN. Thankfully, yesterday, our governor, rejected a state-based exchange (couldn’t deny enough people and spend money on pet projects). So we’ll have a federal exchange.

  • isonprize

    Mornin’ POU!

    I agree with Tom Joyner, Here’s a new, very good “grown folks” Christmas song.

    Kem and Ledisi – Be Mine for Christmas

    • Miranda

      I heard it this morning too! Love it!

  • rikyrah

    Good Morning, Everyone 🙂

  • rikyrah

    Entitlements Scare Tactics

    Posted on December 3, 2012 by James Kwak | 156 Comments

    By James Kwak

    A friend asked me about last week’s WSJ op-ed by Christopher Cox and Bill Archer claiming that the government’s true liabilities exceed $86 trillion—not the $16 trillion national debt that people usually talk about. There’s something to it, but there’s also a huge scary story in there that’s purely meant to frighten people.

    $16 trillion is the amount of Treasury debt outstanding at the moment. The more relevant figure is the amount of debt the federal government owes to people and institutions other than itself. If, for some reason, I lent money to my wife and she promised to pay it back to me, we wouldn’t count that as part of the debt owed by our household. The debt owed to the public is about $10 trillion these days.

    So where do Cox and Archer get $86 trillion? They are counting the present value of future unfunded liabilities. To take one example, if you add up all the money that Medicare Part A is expected to pay out over the next 75 years and figure out how much it would be worth today, you get a total of $21.2 trillion. If you add up all the money that Medicare Part A will bring in from payroll taxes and do the same, you get $15.6 trillion. So to make Medicare Part A balance over seventy-five years, the government would have to have $5.6 trillion that it doesn’t have today. Do the same for all of Medicare and you get a total of $38.6 trillion. This is all from Table V.F2 on page 238 of the latest trustees’ report on the Medicare trust funds. (Cox and Archer, who claim to be citing the same source, have $42.8 trillion in their op-ed; maybe they’re using an infinite time horizon instead of a 75-year timeframe.)

    Now, this is a meaningful exercise. It provides information that isn’t captured in the annual deficit figures and the current national debt, neither of which says anything about how spending and tax revenues are likely to evolve in the future. When we make decisions about taxes and spending, we should consider what we know about the future. In this case, we know that Medicare spending, under current law, is likely to increase faster than tax revenues because of demographic changes and health care inflation.


  • rikyrah

    Obama’s New Southern Manifesto

    Reflections On | Dr. Anthony Asadullah Samad |
    December 9, 2012 9:00 pm

    Efforts of the part of the Republican Party to block the possible nomination of United Nations Ambassador, Susan Rice, to replace Hilary Clinton as Secretary of State, have taken an all too familiar turn in American history. Similar to the symbolic actions taken in 1956, when the Supreme Court ordered school desegregation, “With All Deliberate Speed,” the House Republicans…lame duck House Republicans, mind you, have sought to take a meaningless stand in the debate around who will be the next lead diplomat for the United States.

    Ambassador Rice has come under fire for her real-time briefing of the situation in the Benghazi attack of the U.S. Embassy in Libya—that killed four Americans. Rice reported based on the intelligence she had, which Republicans are now calling intentionally false and misleading statements. Up until this point, Susan Rice had been one of the stars of the Obama Administration. She was considered an expert in foreign relations and a competent diplomat. Enough so, that she’s on President Obama’s “short list” for Secretary of State when Secretary Clinton leaves after the 2013 Inauguration.

    By most accounts, she appears to be one of the President’s favorites. Some even call her the top choice. That’s what makes members of Congress a little nervous. Why? We don’t know. All we know is suddenly there’s a Republican block threatening to block her confirmation before she’s even been nominated. It’s like telling the President, “Don’t even think about it.” Now, here’s the kicker…it’s from people who can’t even confirm her. The Senate confirms all Presidential appointments and judicial nominations.

    So, why is the powerless House up in the President’s grill on this? The politics of obstructionism again? Maybe. Another ideological grandstand? Probably. Coded symbolism (racism and sexism)? More than likely? To try to force the President’s hand another direction? Very unlikely. It’s primarily a signal to the Senate and Senator John McCain that they support the criticism of Susan Rice—flawed as it is—so that minority in the Senate won’t feel so alone. The filibuster is coming, but it will be seen as more stonewalling by a few members of the Senate. The House petition just makes the Red Monster look a little bigger, but no more challenging of a hurdle than it actually is. The House has no more authority to block Rice’s confirmation than Congress could reverse the Supreme Court outlawing unconstitutional law.

    Still the Republicans thought it was worth a try, and they sent out the clowns, via a letter from Congressman Jeff Duncan with 97, that’s right, ninety-seven signatures on it. It’s basically a bunch of mis-allegations over what they thought who said what. See the letter here.

    Now the question is, what does it really stand for? Ninety-seven signatures is less than 25% of house members. Is this a Tea Party flex alert? A call to arms for their beleaguered brothers after such a resounding defeat? Or just the Southern Manifesto, revisited?

    The Southern Manifesto was an attempt by Southern Congressmen to block the implementation of Brown v. Board of Education, first by declaring “interposition,” a theory that states rights were supreme in their own sphere of authority and that federal law couldn’t overturn state law or the states rights in the Tenth Amendment if the Constitution remains quite on the question (it can if it violates the Constitution). Or by “nullification,” a theory that the state could “nullify” federal law when they felt that it didn’t either apply to the state or agree with the state. It was a Civil War term that became outdated with the passing of the Fourteenth Amendment in 1868, still they tried to revive almost 90 years later. One hundred and one congressmen, 99 Dixiecrats and only two Republicans—all from the South, signed the manifesto, calling for the Supreme Court to reverse itself on Brown. When it didn’t, then they called for the impeachment of Chief Justice Earl Warren. It didn’t work, but it fueled the Massive Resistance Movement for ten years until Congress passed the 1964 Civil Rights Act. The point in the comparison?


    • GN

      They are facing the prospect of a black POTUS, black Attorney General, and black Secretary of State. Absolutely NO ONE can tell me that this reality doesn’t account for the visceral, hypocritical, and opportunistic attacks upon Dr. Rice. The far right House has done absolutely nothing of substance and were districts not gerrymandered, they’d have been tossed on their asses in November. And they’ve learned zero from the Nov 6 accountability moment which was silently delivered by a diverse coalition of Americans, many of whom have been observing the GOP’s misbehavior and disrespect towards the POTUS, Sotomayor, Holder, etc. and best believe are quietly watching their antics now.

      • Miranda

        That “fear of a black planet” is real.

        • TyrenM

          Excuse us for the news. U might not be amused.

          Down with the PE – yeah boieee.

  • Miranda

    Holiday retail hiring could break record set 12 years ago

    Holiday hiring by retailers is fast approaching a record set 12 years ago, according to a new analysis of government numbers.

    So far, retailers have added 619,700 seasonal workers in October and November, 19 percent more than the 512,600 holiday employees hired in the same period last year, according to consultancy firm Challenger Gray & Christmas Inc.

    If businesses bring on just 140,300 more workers in December, they’ll match the nearly 760,000 employees tacked on to payrolls during the three-month holiday hiring season in 2000 – a record high.

    Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/12/10/176980/holiday-retail-hiring-could-break.html#storylink=cpy

  • GreenLadyHere


    – – – – –‘Right-to-work’ law passes in Michigan– —

    – —LANSING, Mich. – For generations, Michigan was the ultimate labor stronghold – a state built by factory workers for whom a high school diploma and a union card were the ticket to a middle-class life.

    Yet it took only hours for Republicans to tear down a key part of that tradition, the requirement that all employees in a union workplace pay dues.

    The swift action was the result of a decisive governor who teamed up with a supermajority of GOP allies in the statehouse to win a prize long sought by conservatives. It also provided a window into how state governments might work in an era when they are increasingly run by a single party.

    Gov. Rick Snyder, a venture capitalist and corporate executive before his successful run for governor in 2010, didn’t bother with political niceties this week after dropping his previous objection to dealing with the right-to-work issue. He announced his support Thursday at a news conference.
    Within hours, the House and Senate had introduced and approved bills prohibiting what are known as “closed shops,” where workers are required to join a union or pay fees that are equivalent to union dues as a condition of employment.

    – – – —Obama slams Republican ‘right-to-work’ legislation in Michigan– –

    – – —President Obama says Michigan Republicans’ ‘right-to-work’ legislation means ‘the right to work for less.’

    – – — – RE-THUCKERS!! – —geesh!! – —

  • rikyrah

    Scalia, civil rights, and murder

    By Steve Benen
    Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:35 AM EST

    Last week, the Supreme Court set the stage for a historic moment on American civil rights, agreeing to hear challenges to both the Defense of Marriage Act and to California’s Prop. 8. It will be the justices’ most important foray into the debate over marriage equality, and has the potential to overturn a series of discriminatory laws.

    But while we wait for the judicial process to unfold, it appears one justice’s vote is already pretty obvious.

    Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia spoke at Princeton last night, and a student asked why the far-right jurist equates laws banning sodomy with those barring bestiality and murder.

    “I don’t think it’s necessary, but I think it’s effective,” Scalia said, adding that legislative bodies can ban what they believe to be immoral. […]

    “It’s a form of argument that I thought you would have known, which is called the ‘reduction to the absurd,'” Scalia told Hosie of San Francisco during the question-and-answer period. “If we cannot have moral feelings against homosexuality, can we have it against murder? Can we have it against other things?”


    • nellcote

      I think SCOTUS will uphold marriage equality as a cover for overruling voting rights.

  • rikyrah

    RNC review process off to a rough start

    By Steve Benen
    Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:00 AM EST.

    Republicans clearly didn’t have the kind of election cycle they wanted or expected, so it seems wise of the party to go through a detailed process to determine what, exactly, went wrong. But while the idea may be sound, the RNC’s new “Growth and Opportunity Project” isn’t off to a great start

    Republicans raised more than $1 billion for the presidential campaign, blanketed the airwaves with campaign ads, dispatched hundreds of operatives to battleground states, and promised the best get-out-the-vote effort in party history.

    Now, more than a month after Mitt Romney’s loss in the presidential election, the Republican National Committee has formed a team to determine what went wrong. The RNC is calling its official postmortem the Growth and Opportunity Project, and RNC Chairman Reince Priebus has picked five party leaders to head up the effort.


    • Worldwatcher

      Step one: Figure out why you thought Reince Priebus was a competent leader.

  • rikyrah

    December 10, 2012

    The politics of pure hogwash

    Virtually zero. That’s the chance of any American politician being any more recklessly deceitful than the downhome, aw-shucks Sen. Lindsey Graham, who, today on Fox News, piled in a mere two sentences one contemptible threat on top of three colossal lies:

    We’re not going to raise the debt ceiling, we’re not going to let Obama borrow any more money or any American Congress borrow any more money until we fix this country from becoming Greece. And that requires significant entitlement reform to save Social Security and Medicare from bankruptcy.

    Even microscopic congressional minds can fathom the difference between little old Greece and the world’s largest economy with its own currency, yet the dire comparison is irresistible to Graham’s demagogic, elephantine mouth. As for the federal government borrowing more money–as though such borrowing is conducted on some sort of big-spending liberal whim–someone should remind the SC senator that these are his past debts we’re talking about, which, when incurred, most liberals protested against. Finally, on Social Security and Medicare’s “bankruptcy,” Graham is now up to three of the Washington Post’s Pinocchios.

    Why did I label the odds of outdoing Graham in deliberate deceit as “virtually” zero, rather than absolutely impossible? Because when it comes to spewing folksy, downhome, aw-shucks hogwash, Oklahoma’s Sen. Tom Coburn is a fierce and determined competitor.


  • GreenLadyHere


    —–Nelson Mandela has lung infection – —

    – — –Nelson Mandela’s current hospitalization is due to a lung infection, authorities said Tuesday.

    Doctors were treating Mandela and he was responding to treatment, a statement from President Jacob Zuma’s office said.

    Mandela, 94, was hospitalized over the weekend at a Pretoria facility but the exact nature of his ailment had not been released.

    Tuesday’s statement said he had a recurrence of a previous lung infection.

    – – – -CONTINUE 2 PRAY – –AMEN. —

    – – -ETA: — – –Soweto Gospel Choir Blessed in Concert: Tshepa Thapelo – —

    — —translation:
    When you wake up in the morning,when you sleep at night,Put your trust in Prayer.Even if you´re in trouble,walking in darkness.Put your trust in prayer.

    Even if you you are happy- pray,Even if you are joyful- pray.Wherever you are, at any time,Trust in prayer.

  • rikyrah

    FLOTUS was on Steve Harvey this morning…thanking everyone for coming out to vote …and reminding us that the fight isn’t over. It’s just begun.

    • jds09

      So true. OFA remains intact and will pivot to the local issues soon. The game has changed. On another note, I’m loving the way Lawrence O’Donnell is going H.A.M on Gingrich.

      • GN

        It’s once again an indictment of the beltway media that someone with a zipper as loose as Newt Gingrich had the audacity to lead an impeachment circus based on infidelity. He was terrific during the GOP primaries (that 30 minute anti-Romney infomercial was all kinds of awesome) but he’s back to zero relevance for me lol.

    • GN

      She is easily one of the most skilled politicians in the country. I can’t believe how wonderful the current first couple is.

  • rikyrah

    The Morning Plum: A way out for labor in Michigan?
    Posted by Greg Sargent on December 11, 2012 at 9:15 am

    Today, Governor Rick Snyder is expected to sign “right to work” legislation in Michigan. Obviously, this will constitute a hard blow to organized labor, for a host of reasons, symbolic and practical alike.

    But NBC’s Michael O’Brien reports that labor operatives believe they may have it on a new procedural way to force a vote on the legislation. If the major unions avail themselves of this option — and if it pans out legally — this means the Dem threats to turn this into an extended all-out war could come to pass.

    Republicans have tried to protect the law from going before the voters by attaching an appropriation to it; spending bills can’t be overturned by legislative referendum in Michigan. But union operatives think there is another mechanism by which the law can be challenged. According to one good government group’s analysis of the state constitution, there exists the option of the “statutory initiative,” which would be forced by the collecting of signatures equal to at least eight percent of the votes cast in the last gubernatorial election.

    Will unions and Michigan Democrats avail themselves of this options? Eddie Vale, a spokesman for the labor-funded Workers’ Voice, which played a big role in the Ohio and Wisconsin labor wars, tells me it’s being seriously considered. “The Michigan Constitution allows two other ways to let the people decide this issue on the ballot, and whether it’s one of those options or the 2014 Governor’s election itself, Michiganders will be heard loud and clear,” Vale says.

    The idea here is this: If such a tactic can force a vote on the “right to work” law, Governor Snyder will be heading into reelection in 2014 up against a heavily energized union base, a ton of money pumped into the state by national unions — even as there’s a major pro-collective bargaining initiative on the ballot. Of course, if this happens, major money from the right will flow into the state, too.

    Now, to be clear, the major unions may decide against this route — or it may not work. But if they do opt for it, and if it does work, you could see another extended showdown similar to the ones in Wisconsin and Ohio — still another nationally funded clash over the broader fate of organized labor. Stay tuned.


  • rikyrah

    In Talks, House Majority Weighs Loyalty to Voters


    Published: December 10, 2012

    As their leaders inch toward agreeing to higher tax rates, dozens of House Republicans find themselves caught between the will of a larger American public that favors higher taxes on the rich and the wishes of constituents who re-elected them overwhelmingly to oppose the Obama agenda at every turn.

    With the last House race decided over the weekend, the conflict between a Democratic president convincingly re-elected to a second term and the House Republicans who held their majority illustrates a striking dichotomy in the nation’s body politic: the president and a majority of senators, including a growing number of Republicans, back compromise on tax rates and say the public is on their side, and a majority of the House, in artfully drawn districts, claim just the opposite.

    “We ran aggressively talking about taxes and growth and spending, as did the president,” said Representative Sean P. Duffy, a first-term Republican from Wisconsin, who despite being a top target of Democrats easily won re-election by 12 percentage points. “The president keeps talking about his mandate. Well, he doesn’t have a mandate in the Seventh District.”

    Given the electoral dynamics, the lawmakers who are broaching the possibility of raising tax rates as a way to strike a deal and prevent the possibility of a recession are beginning to appeal to House members with a term not heard often in the House — the national interest.

    The numbers explain how both the president and House Republicans see themselves on solid ground. National polling has consistently shown a public that favors raising taxes on the affluent to help bring down the deficit. But few Republicans in the House fear the political ramifications of such polls.

    “My constituents want me to stand firm on cutting spending. I campaigned on that issue. That’s why they elected me,” said Representative Ted Poe, Republican of Texas, who won re-election with 65 percent of the vote. “I don’t see any scenario where raising tax rates, in any combination of compromise, will solve our problem.”


  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM☻ – – — OOPS! – -MISSED THIS: – —

    – – –Sandi Jackson Won’t Rule Out Run For Husband’s Old Seat – –

    – – – –Chicago Ald. Sandi Jackson isn’t ruling out running for the congressional seat that her husband resigned from last month.

    “Never say never,” Jackson told DNAinfo.com Chicago in an interview published Monday. “One never knows what the future may hold.”

    A special Democratic primary election has been scheduled for Feb. 26, and Jackson told the website that she has been encouraged to enter the race, and that the “consideration looms large.”

    And while Jackson said that most of the candidates who have already declared are “friends,” and that she wants them to “get out and campaign their hearts out and put out their best plans,” she also just happened to mention her “25 years of experience being on the Hill … blessed to live in both worlds as a congressman’s wife, staffer and alderman.”

    But Jackson stopped short of jumping in.

    – — -Watchin’. . . . .

    • rikyrah

      Woman, sit down and try and keep your husband out of JAIL

      • Miranda


      • Admiral_Komack

        She better run…to the nearest bail bondsman.

  • GreenLadyHere


    – —☻ –President Obama and Vice President Joe Biden will meet for lunch at the White House. Their meeting is closed press.

    – – –Have a SPECIAL APPRECIATION 4 people who SPECIALIZE in “CHILDREN”: – –

    – –☻ – –Born in 1922 in New York City, Lucille Constance Gunning is a pediatrician who has made important advances in rehabilitating children with disabilities, and in establishing care facilities for children with chronic health problems. – – -THANK U. :>)

    – —ENJOY YOUR –ENERGY DRANK. :>) — –

    –B BLESSED. :>) – —

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB – —***BIG HUG*** :>)

    THIS goes along with your series: —SADLY NEGATIVE: – – —

    – —Maxwell: Medical racism exacts a terrible cost – —

    – – – –<i>In his new book, “Black & Blue: The Origins and Consequences of Medical Racism,” John Hoberman shows how racial bias among doctors negatively affects diagnosis and treatment for black patients. — The book comes at a perfect time, during the implementation of the Affordable Care Act, President Barack Obama’s biggest domestic accomplishment.

    In an email message, Hoberman, professor of Germanic studies at the University of Texas at Austin, wrote that the legislation “serves the medical needs of countless African-Americans by making medical care available to millions of people who have not been able to afford it. It is well known that poverty and lack of access to care do more to cause illness and premature death than any other factors.”

    While access to care for African-Americans is important, quality of care is crucial. But all too often and in too many medical offices and facilities, the quality of care patients receive depends on their skin color.

    This moral shortcoming should be discussed at the highest levels of medicine, but rarely is, Hoberman writes. It definitely is not part of medical schools’ curricula.

    Many studies have documented racial discrimination in U.S. medicine. As far back as 1979, for example, a team of medical authors wrote in the Journal of the American Medical Association, “It is an open secret that physicians dislike certain patients.” The open secret was that African-Americans sat at the top of the list of disliked patients.

    • Aquagranny911

      I don’t care if this sounds racist but I have specifically sought out doctors & dentists who are POC because I feel more comfortable & I have found they actually listen to me. My regular Doc is Latina. My asthma Doc is Indian. (from India) He’s a sweetheart who is really supportive of my desire not to be over medicated. He listens to me & I listen to him. We have a great working relationship! The Doc (white) that I had before him hardly spent any time with me, blasted me with medication & never listened to my concerns.

  • GreenLadyHere

    PBOMB: – -THIS was –GOOD NEWS: :>) – —

    – – —Little Known Black History Fact: Xavier University Medical Graduates – –

    – — —According to a new study conducted by the Association of American Medical Colleges, Xavier University in New Orleans is now the number one college for black graduates in Science, Technology, Engineering, Math (STEM). In 2011, Xavier was the top producer of African-American students who earned medical degrees. The school beat out Harvard, Yale and Stanford. The historically black university is also a top producer of African American Doctor of Pharmacy graduates. Sixty-five percent of their incoming freshman have a STEM concentration.

    Xavier University is the only historically black Roman Catholic college in the country. It was founded by Saint Katharine Drexel and the Sisters of the Blessed Sacrament in 1915. Dr. Norman C. Francis, a 1952 Xavier University graduate, has served as the University’s president since 1968. He is the longest tenured college president in the United States. More than half of the student body is from the state of Louisiana. Before Hurricane Katrina in 2005, the enrollment was 4,100. It is now at approximately 3,391. The school has over 20,000 alumni.
    THERE IS MORE. – — — Woo! Hoo! :>)

    [Gotta “bounce” — MISSIN’ U/CARRYIN’ U –IN MY ♥]

    • lamh36

      Xavier is the only All Black Catholic order and the only All Black Catholic 4 year Private College.

      Being from NOLA I’ve heard pretty much all there is to know about Xavier University.

      I’d always heard that Xavier was the #1 school when it comes to getting Afr Am accepted into Med School and it’s also the #1 School for Afr Am interested in Pharmacy.

      So to those of us in NOLA, this fact is well known…lol

      • rikyrah

        I knew those facts, lamh

      • TyrenM

        Where u from Sis?

        • lamh36

          New Orleans East & Lower 9th Ward

          • TyrenM

            I got that lamh. That was my NWA: “Yo Lamh, tell em where u from.”

          • lamh36

            Sorry, I’m slow sometimes…lol

  • GN

    To be honest, I have been junking out on reality tv online (acquired taste before folks start making fun of me lmao) and haven’t been paying as much attention since Two Terms made it safely back into the WH. So I’ve only been kinda sorta aware of all of the current hysterics and histrionics about this or that which the POTUS is allegedly doing. My only thought is that just like the first term, the professional left and fauxgressives have to trump up a bunch of outrage for ratings + attention. It’s not only sensationalist, but to me, at this point, it’s boring watching the same hair on fire over and over.

    • Miranda

      Dang! We are >< like that!

      I neva eva watch that much reality TV, but the last week can't get enough of the foolishness! LMAO And I haven't paid as much attention as I should since Two Terms got back in either! LOLOL I can't believe I spent the weekend watching those Real Housewives in Beverly Hills (that dinner party was the ish) and the Shahs on Sunset crack me up!

      • I’ve grown to enjoy Ice Love Coco. Pray for me.

        • Daltex82

          For me its Honey Boo Boo and Storage Wars. What!

          • qosine

            OK, I confess. I watched Snapped marathon Sunday.

          • Daltex82

            Been there done that, I’ll just go ahead and admit it I’m somewhat of a TV junkie.

          • Aquagranny911

            Storage Wars & Housewives of New Jersey.

        • rikyrah

          Tip toeing in to say Real Housewives of Atlanta…Kenya is crazy….

          tip toeing back out (Kenya brought me back watching)

        • MsKitty

          I got the entire season of RuPaul’s All Star Drag Race (and the Untucked post-show) waiting for me on the DVR. My 2.5 week Xmas vacay starts next week, so I’m already reserving an afternoon on the couch with a few adult beverages and more snacks than I have any business eating, while watching the ladies bring the shade and cattiness.

      • GN

        Wow, that’s uncanny! Know what it is? For me, President Obama has never been my entertainment; serious person doing a serious job. Now that he’s in his second term and can’t be stopped, I can watch junk and start to think about how I can in seriousness make more of a contribution to helping people, because I really don’t do enough right now. Fauxgressives/sole patrollers worst nightmare has come true at least where I’m concerned: irrelevance.

        • Aquagranny911

          Totally Co-Sign! For four years it has seemed that all I watched, did & thought was politics 24/7 & trying to have PBO’s back as best I could.

          For the last year & more it has been, register voters, talk & work GOTV. I feel proud at what we did even though AZ didn’t exactly go the way I wanted.

          I trust PBO to run the country in spite of the Repugnats. If he needs me he knows where to find me & I’ll be there!

          In the meantime I just want to rest, enjoy my family & do frivolous things for a while. I even put some of my volunteer work on hold till after the Holidays. I’m feeling a strong need to just take care of me for a little bit. I think I will be better & stronger for taking this time out

          • MsKitty

            Sounds like you should squeeze a spa day in there. Get your fair share of pampering.

          • Aquagranny911

            I’m planning on that when we get to CO for Christmas. Daughter has already made me an appointment at this great place she knows.

        • MsKitty

          Yep, the heavy lifting has been done so it’s time to relax a bit. The only “political” places I’ve come to on a regular basis since 11/6 is here and Deaniac’s spot. During the same time I’ve only been on twitter sporadically, and each visit it’s the same: emos with their hair on fire with the latest rumor, or folks voicing their absolute outrage over what Tweety, Ed, Andrea, Rachel, and ’em said today. In other words, same as it ever was.

          I guess some people need that ginned up outrage to have a reason to get out of bed in the morning. God bless ’em.

        • TyrenM

          I feel that GN. So, I’ve begun to “make more contribution” in my own neighborhood. I’ve never done the local outreach thing before, but it’s past time I too turn off Ed, Rachel, Lawrence and get into what’s going on around me.

    • nellcote

      It’s still important to call your congress critters regarding fiscal matters in DC …even if it’s just during a commercial break in Real Housewives of America. 🙂

      • qosine

        Yes, Stephanie Cutter and OFA dashboard are sending To Do updates. I love this, cause I can look at WH.gov and other gov sites + follow the Cutter and OFA updates vs. getting caught up in all the distractions of prog-tea party antics.

        Dr. Rice will get the nom, the cliff will be averted, our earned entitlements will be better than before, and the GOP will lose, lose, lose.

        I am fully confident in our President and his administration (Cabinet members, Jay Carney, David Plouffe, Valerie Jarrett et al).

        Here in TN, the right wing talk show hosts are going INSANE.
        I grab about 10-20 minutes a couple of times a week just to get the gist of the talking points.

        Today, a guy from WVA called in taking exception to the host’s attack on the unions in Michigan, pointing out the terrible conditions people were forced to endure. The host’s response?
        “They should have moved, ” and “Collective Bargaining is Communism.” He goes on about the moochers on SSI, the lazy students under Title I.

        I had to say to myself several times GLH’s words:: “NO WEAPON SHALL PROSPER AGAINST HIM. IT WON’T WORK.” (paraphrase).

  • GN

    Oh heck yes:

    Michael Dorn Confirms He’s Working on a ‘Star Trek: Captain Worf’ TV Series

    Geek favorites Bryan Fuller and Bryan Singer have been forthcoming about their hopes for bringing Star Trek back to the small screen, after the release of J.J. Abrams’ elusive sequel to his Trek movie reboot next summer. However, it turns out those two aren’t the only ones with big dreams about a new TV series set in that sci-fi universe – Michael Dorn is also taking steps to reprise his signature Trek role on a spinoff, tentatively titled Star Trek: Captain Worf.


    • macademic

      How does a Trekkie/Trekker–I’m both– take this news? “K’plaa!!” (my Klingon is a little rusty, lol)

      I actually think its a serious hole in our collective cultural brainspace that we have no real space/ sci fi narratives anymore. Asterisk for Fringe which I love, but still…

      • GN

        lol! @”my Klingon is a little rusty…”

        Indeed, this news is terrific.

      • Aquagranny911

        Agreed! Were you a Far Scape fan too? What about Babylon 5?

        • macademic

          Hi Aquagranny! I never watched either of those, I’m afraid: original Star Trek; Next Generation/ spinoffs; Stargate (that took a loong time given how the tv show undermined the movie)/ spinoffs; the best “recent” show IMHO was the Battlestar Galactica reboot (on netflix).

          • Aquagranny911

            You might really enjoy Far Scape. Hulu has started showing the first season on line.

            My kiddos like the new Battlestar Galactica but somehow I just haven’t been able to get into it like they have.

      • Ebogan63

        Macademic, I couldn’t agree with you more. I grew up with those narratives.

      • nellcote

        a serious hole in our collective cultural brainspace
        especially regarding peaceful conflict resolution. We need more positive modeling in our collective conciousness.

    • Aquagranny911

      I’m really looking forward to this. Worf is one of my favorite characters. I’ve been a Trek fan since the series started on TV in the ’60’s.

  • Miranda

    As much as Jason Shitlock loves to pounce on anything Serena does and bash her to all be damned, bet he won’t say two words about what that heifer Wozniacki did.

    In case you missed it:

    • He’ll probably say Serena deserved it.

    • jds09

      Where’s the Becky Brigade on this shit? In trying to shame Serena’s body they have insulted every WOC with a behind. Until they get WOC’s back on bullshit like this they can kiss my ass. I clicked on the clips and I have this to say:

      Fuck Wozniacki
      Fuck Djokavic (fellow imitator)
      Fuck Roddick (fellow imitator) and
      Fuck Federer (who thought that shit was funny)

      “Serena Williams has yet to react to the situation publicly.” She will, on the court grounding those flat asses into the pavement.

    • Tafr

      This chick needs to stop playing. So Serena was blessed with talent and curves to boot. It is not Serena’s fault that ol girl is built like a teenage boy that has not hit puberty yet. Seems to me she is jealous of Serena.

    • TyrenM

      I hope she’s booed out of (U.S. Open) and any other American Tournament she plays in. Same with jds09 list below. She also shoud be sanctioned by the WTA.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY TyrenM. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

        *** BIG FIST BUMP****- – —

        ***pattin’ my foot***- -waitin’ 4 the “sanction”-

        [APOLOGY- — -FINE- —TAKE a GAME AWAY- — -somthin’!!! — – -DANG!!]

        Betcha she wouldn’t have done that while playin a — game -in -saaaaaaaaay – – -COMPTON!!! – – –

        – – -annnnd SHE KNOWS IT!!- –

        – -SAAAAA-LAP!! — Little RACIST – – -WANCH!!!! humph!!

        Good 2 C U TyrenM. :>)

  • Obesity in Young Is Seen as Falling in Several Cities

    PHILADELPHIA — After decades of rising childhood obesity rates, several American cities are reporting their first declines.

    The trend has emerged in big cities like New York and Los Angeles, as well as smaller places like Anchorage, Alaska, and Kearney, Neb. The state of Mississippi has also registered a drop, but only among white students.

    “It’s been nothing but bad news for 30 years, so the fact that we have any good news is a big story,” said Dr. Thomas Farley, the health commissioner in New York City, which reported a 5.5 percent decline in the number of obese schoolchildren from 2007 to 2011.

    The drops are small, just 5 percent here in Philadelphia and 3 percent in Los Angeles. But experts say they are significant because they offer the first indication that the obesity epidemic, one of the nation’s most intractable health problems, may actually be reversing course.

    MORE: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/11/health/childhood-obesity-drops-in-new-york-and-philadelphia.html?

    • Rhoda

      Go Mrs. Obama!!!!

      That’s great news.

      • aleth

        Rhoda don’t worry– they are thinking up a skim to say she had nothing to do with it.. just watch..

    • GreenLadyHere

      HEEY Sepia. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

      – — GR8 NEWS! – –IMMA ECHO Rhoda:— WENT STR8 2 da “HOUSE” –2 get the EVIDENCE: :>) —



      Good 2 C U – -Sepia. :>)

  • Miranda

    OK, if you saw Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, then you remember the scene where the valets took the car out for a spin……ROFLMAO

    Valet takes Reggie Wayne’s car for joy ride, gets arrested for DWI

    When you give your car to a valet, you’re trusting him to park it and have it ready to give back to you when you return. Colts receiver Reggie Wayne gave his car to a valet who apparently didn’t understand that agreement.

    more here

  • GN

    The utterly horrendous George Zimmerman had a hearing today re: his motion to have his ankle monitoring removed and more freedom to leave his virtual cage. The motion was denied. His prison term can’t come soon enough for me.

    • Miranda

      This mofo wants to go on tour. He’ll be speaking at neo-nazi rallies about how he had to save his life from the “thug”.

      His soul is already burning in hell, its already there.

      • Admiral_Komack

        He can tour a prison cell block…for the rest of his miserable life.

      • GN

        He’s a disgusting person; the nature of his crime speaks for itself in terms of his character. He had pics of racist defacement of a black cultural center and the Koran-burning pastor’s rally on his short-lived site.

        OT–I have never ever ever understood why and how NBC would choose to buckle to this lunatic’s claims of being misrepresented as a racist child-killer. Just imbecilic and a disgrace. NBC can defend themselves against his aggressive lawsuit by simply posting screenshots of his website and headlines about the unarmed kid he accosted and killed. But some in the media are almost as racist as Zimmerman and find this boil on the ass of humanity to be sympathetic. Let me stop my ranting because I will fill up this entire page with it, this case makes me so angry.

        • aleth

          Because they are part of the disinformation arm. Same shit as Foxs. They all have an interest in making sure this dude gets off– more $$$

      • QOakaJP

        Yep, he wants to be a celeb. ‘The misunderstood, tortured soul who was unfairly branded as America’s monster.’ Even his lawsuit against NBC is part of that plan. (And you just know Hannity encouraged him to do that isht.)

        • TyrenM

          Encouraged? Try bankrolled that shit.

      • QOakaJP

        Yep, he wants to be a celeb. ‘The misunderstood, tortured soul who was unfairly branded as America’s monster.’ Even his lawsuit against NBC is part of that plan. (And you just know Hannity encouraged him to do that isht.)

  • Rhoda

    Good Morning, POU!

    Isn’t it damn amazing how when POTUS has all the cards, is winning, he’s being told to give Boehner cover and climb down and take the hit of proposing entitlement changes.

    Gerson in Washpo has a column on this and I’m not going to bother linking to it; but it makes clear POTUS is winning. The whole world knows POTUS is winning. And that the Republicans have no way to climb down and no hope that the debt ceiling will do anything but blow up in their faces. So MSM types want Democrats to propose entitlement cuts so that Republicans can pocket them and then run against Democrats for proposing and voting for them.

    Hello! We just saw Romney play this game; DEMS aren’t going there. Boehner has to man up and SAY what he wants to resolve this situation. That he is refusing to do so makes clear how bad the position he is in actually is.

    It’s not POTUS’ job to make it better; it’s his job to win what’s best for the country! I honestly think that a black man is winning gets them even more. I don’t remember them saying Bill Clinton has to let Newt Gingrich save face.

    • qosine

      Nancy Pelosi rhetorically asked, “Is this some sort for trophy for the Republicans?” (paraphrase) The GOP have no, none, nada leverage.

    • rikyrah

      f’ em all, Rhoda.

      Orange Julius SAID he got NINETY-EIGHT PERCENT of what he wanted LAST TIME….

      So, let his ass have Johnny Walker with his oatmeal for all I care.


    • aleth


      Try to make the Good Ole Boys Club good… they can do no wrong.

    • Town

      Well, remember when Randal Pinkett won the Apprentice, and Donald Chump tried to make him share with the unqualified white girl, and made him out to be the villian when he refused?

  • Miranda


    Lizz Winstead‏@lizzwinstead
    Charles Koch “Working hard to understand the election results” http://bit.ly/VQMkI2 #LemmeHelp #YouLost

    Kochs Postpone Post-Election Meeting

    National Review Online has learned that the Koch brothers will postpone their semi-annual meeting, which was originally scheduled to be held next month. It will now be held in April. In an email to friends, Charles Koch says he wants to reflect on the results, and on election data, before he huddles with fellow business leaders.

    • qosine

      #LemmeHelp #YouLost LOL

    • Translation: “We’re trying to figure out why the election machines in Ohio worked properly even though we paid millions of dollars to have them rigged.”

      • rikyrah


    • Guns3000

      These are guys that have been getting everything they want their whole lives and one time they don’t. Emotionally and intellectually they don’t know how to cope.

    • goldenstar

      Am wondering if they want to see how the Michigan moves work out, too.

      • jds09

        It’s about to be on in MI.

    • goldenstar

      Am wondering if they want to see how the Michigan moves work out, too.

  • lamh36

    Hold up wait, I didn’t realize that DeNiro and his Sista wife Miss Grace have been married for 25 years!!!

  • DAYUM!!! I guess she didn’t write enough anti-FLOTUS article for Tina Brown’s satisfaction.

    Newsweek’s style correspondent Robin Givhan has been laid off
    by Brittany Tom | December 10, 2012 at 5:24 PM

    When Newsweek announced in October its plan to go completely digital, it was apparent that some staff members would not be there to see the 80 year-old news magazine’s conversion from print to online.

    Among those getting the boot is Pulitzer-prize-winning fashion journalist Robin Givhan. But she is not letting the layoff stop her from looking into the future.

    In an email to Journal-isms on Saturday, Givhan wrote, “‘Sad to say that yes, it is true. Quite the ‘Merry Christmas.’ . . . I’m in New York as we speak doing book research and happily following up on any new career opportunities.”

    MORE: http://thegrio.com/2012/12/10/newsweeks-style-correspondent-robin-givhan-has-been-laid-off/

    • Miranda

      hmph……I really don’t think there’s a market for a middle-aged black woman to bash FLOTUS’s style anymore. They needed ole Robin for that gig to try and beat up on FLOTUS for the first 4 years but now that POTUS has been re-elected…nobody’s shelling out da big bucks for a wasted cause anymore.


  • Miranda

    *note to self…next time visiting Big Apple, do not stay here and litter in front of the hotel without being seen by cops*

    Manager booted from job at swanky hotel after giving birth in one of the rooms: lawsuit

    A former manager of the swanky Standard Hotel says she was booted from her job after giving birth to a baby in one of the hotel rooms.

    Tara Tan often worked 100 hours a week in the hotel, and was one of the people who helped to get it up and running – only to be fired when a superior declared that she didn’t fit into the “culture of the hotel.”

    more here

  • Aquagranny911

    I’m enjoying this series, thank you. I’m sending the links to my daughter because I know she will be interested.

  • Miranda

    Dang…now its a photoshop contest going on..folks are truly going in on poor Manny! LMAO

    Photoshop Contest: Knocked-Out Manny Pacquiao

    I am JUST seeing the actual clip of the hit at that link………DAYUM!!!! Dude knocked Manny TO SLEEP!

    • MsKitty

      Somebody’s taking the Hell Express behind their Kent State photoshop.

  • rikyrah

    A GOP consultant’s accidental candor on voter-ID laws

    By Steve Benen
    Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:55 AM EST.

    When it comes to voter-suppression techniques, Republicans generally maintain a certain pretense, at least in public. They argue that measures such as voter-ID laws aren’t about blocking Americans’ access to their own elections, but rather, about preventing imaginary fraud. The defense isn’t compelling, but GOP officials generally repeat it with a straight face.

    Once in a great while, however, a Republican will slip and tell the truth.

    Republican campaign consultant Scott Tranter appeared on a panel Monday hosted by the Pew Center on the States to discuss the long lines and voter ID controversies that plagued the 2012 election. In his comments, Tranter seemed to imply that he believed these issues were helpful to Republicans and should be pursued for that reason.

    “A lot of us are campaign officials — or campaign professionals — and we want to do everything we can to help our side. Sometimes we think that’s voter ID, sometimes we think that’s longer lines — whatever it may be,” Tranter said with a laugh.


  • Miranda

    The View: The hosts of “The View” discuss whether the tennis player’s joke was racist.


    • Tafr

      I really like Joy but I have to applaud Sherri for shutting her ass down. Damn shame Sherri had to tell Joy that she was speaking as a black woman. Joy knows that shit was racist. Do not try to down play it by saying well they make fun of white women too.

      Someone down thread asked where are the white women standing up for Serena. I know where quite a few of them are. They are on Huffin Puff saying this incident was not racist and black folks are just too sensitive. Once again they are preaching to us on what is considered racist.

      • TyrenM

        Teachable moment – from Sara Barton to Serena Williams, shit don’t stop.

    • I just love how Elisabitch dismisses Sherri’s opinion.

    • This happens every time. Someone makes a clearly offensive public gesture toward of POC, and instead of acknowledging the disrespect and demanding better, the established media takes it upon themselves to decided whether the POC should be offended. And this decision is based solely on what they deem to be “racist.” If it’s not “racist” enough for their liking, then the entire event is swept aside, and the offender excused. (Because why, in their mind, would any nonwhite ever need to complain about something someone white does *unless* it is within the narrowly defined parameters of racism?)

      Let’s say, for example, a waiter in a restaurant walks over to a black woman and purposely spills a food order onto the woman’s clothes before smirking and walking away. The woman is humiliated in front of hundreds of other restaurant patrons. Media outlets rush in to cover the humiliation. Then, looking at the woman’s appearance, they ask their audience, “do you think it was racism? You know, racism, that stuff that KKK members did to blacks in the south back in the 1800’s, before MLK came and saved the day forever? Do you think it was THAT?” Predictable, circular debates from the ignorant and/or the privileged ensue. In the end, none of them can find the “racism” in the event. So any potential outrage from the black woman, or people “like” her, is unjustified. And soon everyone walks away from the poor woman, still sitting at the table with the food on her clothes, now probably staining them for good. And no one cares, because in mainstream consciousness, a black woman has no grievances that deserve their concern (their only concern being that blame might be laid in their general direction).

      • aleth

        But don’t forget some males in our community quick to excuse the lady which is what I have been reading. Always quick to excuse the “ladies” and come to the rescue but you never see them do that for say folks like Serena, Michelle etc.

        It kind of brings the whole Joan from Salon debate in full circle.

        There is joke and disrespectfull behavior. These players seem obsessed with her both white males and females. Like an inferiority complex playing out. She is beating their booty and the only way to compete is not on the court but lash out with so called “jokes.”
        I guess this is the part that bugged me and you hit it on the head “a black woman has no grievances that deserve their concern (their only concern being that blame might be laid in their general direction).”

        What was the entire point of poking fun of serena? Like Whoopi asked why always serena?

        Maybe I am just getting irritated from Susan Rice to this shit.. I am tired of this shit. There are two sets of women POC and white women, the way each is treated by the mainstream as well as certain members in our own community who give cover for this crassness via music is annoying.

        Ok I am done ranting.. JUST irritated.

        Stay away from it from now on…

        • dannie22

          good point about some black males defending this crap. i wonder has elon james made any comments

    • rikyrah


      HELL YEAH it was racist.

      Fuck all these mofos.

    • dannie22

      ill have to watch this another day. i cant with these racists and my bp is already high.

  • Miranda

    West Wing Reports‏@WestWingReport
    Carney says if Repubs want to see what cuts White House has proposed they should look at pages 17-45 in plan given to 2011 fiscal commission

    What he WANTED to say was “to all you dumbass lazy jackals in the media who keep parroting that bullshit talking point mess from the GOP buzzards, do some gotdamn research and stop carrying GOP water, mofos.”

    That’s what his face was saying even though other words came out of his mouth.

  • aleth

    I really really hate the way white establishment try to excuse this chick Caroline Wozniacki. Interesting..

    I looke forward to someone on the tennis court making fun a pancake ass, no boobs and no slam white ladies.

    It is just amazing — Black people no matter where you are — you always have to deal with SHIT.

    • jds09

      Seriously. Any lawyers out there? Does Serena have a hostile workplace suit against the WTA?

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY jds09. ****BIG HUG*** :>)

        – – -WHEW LAWD!- — I wish that I could say – – – YES. :>)

        BUT my LAW CREDS R lackin’. :>) —–Uhhh- — MAKE dat — NONE!! — -LOL — –

        BUT it soooo FEEL like it. :>)

        Hope somebody INVESTIGATES!! :>)

        Good 2 C U jds09. :>)

        • BoomerGal

          Did I miss the link re: this topic? I keep scrolling up thread and missing it.

        • jds09

          Hey GLH!

      • aleth

        If she can establish history of such conduct and prove some time of harm – most likely under the IIED- intentional emotional distress claim/ NIED – negligent infliction of emotional distress. For her it will be based on workplace and the standard high to establish in workplace for IIED. You have to show extreme and outrageous conduct, “which is intended to cause and does cause” severe emotional distress per case law. And the def. of E&O conduct go more deeper into so outrageous in character, and so extreme in degree, as to go beyond all possible bounds of decency, and to be regarded as atrocious, and utterly intolerable in a civilized community. Yeah I know… its crazy

        NEID is a lower threshold but you have to show negligent conduct and the it was reasonably forseable her conduct would cause you emotional distress. Kinda of hard since they were friends and she had performed this kind of conduct before.

        I am not even asking for court action, just asking they be professional. The entire episode was useless. What did Serena have to do with their game? Its just weird.

      • aleth

        Typed a response but Disqus eat it.

        Basically you have NIED [Negligent Infliction Emotional distress] or IIED [Intentional Infliction of Emotion Distress] has two forms of workplace suits. The first is a lower threshold just show negligently conduct by her which was reasonable foreseeable to cause you emotional distress [problem this is not her first time and how do you determine foreseeability] the latter is tougher and rarely successful– have to show extreme and outrageous conduct, “which is intended to cause and does cause” severe emotional distress.” Now the extreme and outrageous conduct standard is crazy– you have to show that her conduct was so outrageous in character, and so extreme in degree, as to go beyond all possible bounds of decency, and to be regarded as atrocious, and utterly intolerable in a civilized community. Now that’s huge–rarely successful in employment context.

        I don’t even care for the suit but the lack of professionalism. What is Serena’s relation to her game? There are a million ways to joke why do they all seem to pick this one– her body?

    • TyrenM

      “Make fun all u want, she’s still gonna whoop all your asses!” Whoopi.

    • GreenLadyHere

      HEEY aleth, ***BIG HUG*** :>)

      – –LOL – –I looke forward to someone on the tennis court making fun a pancake ass, no boobs and no slam white ladies. – -LOL

      Good 1. LOL – – –

      Good 2 C U aleth. :>)

  • rikyrah

    December 11, 2012 2:28 PM
    Haley Muddies the Waters

    By Ed Kilgore

    It’s not every day a governor gets to place someone in the United States Senate, so I guess you can forgive Nikki Haley for milking as much publicity as she can from choice of a replacement for Jim DeMint.

    But the “short list” she’s now put out simply draws more attention to the fact that she hasn’t already made the choice national conservatives are begging for, reportedly reflecting DeMint’s own wishes: Rep. Tim Scott, the African-American right-winger from Charleston.

    Scott’s on the list, to be sure, but so, too are two women who sort of muddy the diversity waters: Jenny Sanford, the aggrieved former wife of the adulterous former Gov. Mark Sanford; and Catherine Templeton, the union-baiting former head of the state labor department who now runs the state Department of Health and Environmental Control.

    Sanford is no token: an wealthy heiress and investment banker who was long considered her husband’s chief political strategist, she’s a force to be reckoned with in SC conservative politics, and has some close personal ties to Haley, though not as close as those possessed by Templeton, the living symbol of Haley’s signature hatred of unions.

    Conspicuously missing from Haley’s list is Rep. Mick Mulvaney, who is probably more popular with serious Palmetto State wingnuts than Scott. But she does include another Tea Party favorite, Rep. Trey Gowdy, who is the only member of the list from the GOP-heavy upstate region. Former Attorney General Henry McMaster, who was originally thought to be a “placeholder” possibility, rounds out the list.

    FWIW, Haley’s most prominent SC Republican critic, the well-connected if disreputable blogger Will Folks, rates Sanford the favorite. While passing over Scott would undoubtedly annoy the national conservative types who want him as a trophy, Sanford would probably be a very popular pick back home.


  • rikyrah

    Michigan is a Union State

    by BooMan
    Tue Dec 11th, 2012 at 09:27:34 AM EST

    I have deep roots in Michigan. My grandfather went to school there and then raised his family in Kalamazoo. I went to school there. One of my brothers went to school there. My ex-wife is from Detroit. I cannot imagine Michigan as a right-to-work state. It’s a cultural thing. You either understand it, or you don’t. But it runs as deep as U of M’s maize and blue. I think it goes far beyond partisan politics. It’s more like how hunting and fishing are ingrained parts of the culture is many parts of the country (including Michigan). You can’t take that away just by signing a slip of paper that you call a law. The people won’t accept it.
    I guess that is what the state’s Democratic congressional delegation was trying to tell Gov. Rick Snyder:

    Top Democrats in the Michigan Congressional delegation just wrapped up their meeting with Governor Rick Snyder, during which they urged him in no uncertain terms: If you go forward with “right to work” legislation, you’ll be consigning the state to years of discord and division. They urged him to consider vetoing the legislation or postponing it until the next session — or even agreeing to subject it to referendum.
    According to Dems who were on the call, Snyder told them he would “seriously” take into account their objections — which they took as a genuine indication of possible willingness, for now, to reconsider…

    …Dems told Snyder that forging ahead with “right to work” legislation risked undermining the progress in labor-management relations in the state and could create a situation similar to Wisconsin, where an ongoing battle over collective bargaining tore the state apart for over a year.


  • rikyrah

    The spending cuts Boehner chooses not to see
    By Steve Benen
    Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:45 PM EST

    House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) made a rare floor appearance this morning to demand answers from the White House as part of the ongoing fiscal talks: “Where are the President’s spending cuts?”


    It’s disconcerting, in a way, that Boehner still doesn’t seem to understand the larger debate he’s currently engaged in, but so long as the Speaker is confused, let’s try to give him a hand.

    First, if the Republican leader wants to know where President Obama’s spending cuts are, he can start with the more than $1 trillion in spending cuts Obama already accepted as part of the resolution to last year’s debt-ceiling crisis.

    Second, Obama’s debt-reduction plan, like Obama’s most recent budget plan, already includes additional spending cuts, on top of the cuts the president agreed to in 2011.

    And third — this is the part Boehner really doesn’t seem to understand — Obama has no incentive to negotiate with himself. The House Speaker is saying, in effect, “We’re demanding spending cuts, so Obama should propose some, and we’ll let him know when we’re satisfied.”

    The White House has decided not to play this game and for good reason. If Boehner wants more spending cuts, he can propose more spending cuts. That’s how negotiations are supposed to work.


  • rikyrah

    December 11, 2012 11:58 AM
    Obama Refuses To Help Wreck Obamacare

    By Ed Kilgore

    As you are probably aware, now that Republicans are in some disarray on the tax front, and are having to beg Democrats to propose Medicare cuts to give them cover for an abrupt abandonment of their recent Medigoguery, the one fiscal item GOPers can agree on with full-throated confidence is the ontological necessity of screwing up implementation of Obamacare. (Just yesterday a Forbes columnist wrote a piece on the “Resistance Movement Against Obamacare” that made the cause of denying one’s fellow citizens health care coverage sound like a war of liberation against fascism). And conservatives have been eager to egg on Republican governors and legislators to do everything within their power—and perhaps beyond it—to obstruct everything from the establishment of health exchanges to the expansion of Medicaid.

    Since this campaign of willful obstruction postdated the 2011 fiscal talks, it’s not at all surprising that the White House is backing away from one concession it put on the table back then: “blending” match rates for various Medicaid services in a way that would expose states to a higher share of costs while generating $100 billion in long-term savings for the feds. That’s just the excuse conservatives need to help justify their determination not only to oppose the super-matched Medicaid expansion but to press for the “flexibility” to gut existing Medicaid benefits and eligibility.

    You can expect considerable shrieking from Republicans about Obama “moving the goalposts” by rescinding this concession (as though they haven’t been “moving the golaposts” of acceptable domestic policies from the day of Obama’s election in 2008). But they have no one but themselves to blame for this particular development.


  • rikyrah

    Raising Medicare age could leave hundreds of thousands uninsured
    Posted by Greg Sargent on December 11, 2012 at 11:56 am

    It looks increasingly possible that lawmakers will reach a fiscal cliff deal that includes a hike in the Medicare eligibility age — a concession to those on the right who seem determined to see very deep entitlement cuts, even if they take benefits away from vulnerable seniors. One argument for raising the eligibility age is that seniors who lose benefits can get insurance through Medicaid or the Obamacare exchanges.

    But a new report to be released later today undercuts that argument — and finds that up to half a million seniors could lose insurance if the eligibility age is raised.

    The report, by the Center for American Progress, points out a key fact that’s been mostly missing from the debate: The hope of getting seniors who lose Medicare insured through Obamacare could be seriously compromised by the Supreme Court decision allowing states to opt out of the Medicaid expansion. This would inflate the number of seniors who could be left without insurance, because many would fall into the category of lower-income senior that would be expected to gain access to Medicaid through its expansion. (Jonathan Cohn has written about this extensively.)

    Here’s how CAP reached its conclusion. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office recently concluded that a rise in the eligibility age could mean as many as 270,000 seniors are left uninsured in 2021. But that’s assuming Obamacare is fully implemented in all states. The CAP report points out that 10 states have publicly declared they will opt out of the Medicaid expansion, and more are undecided.


    • Ebogan63

      t looks increasingly possible that lawmakers will reach a fiscal cliff deal that includes a hike in the Medicare eligibility age

      Based on what, exactly? A gossipy column by Ezra Klein?

      This is why Sargent stay losing.

      • OK! And, of course, when confronted about rumor mongering….


        • Ebogan63


          Durbin has already ‘ruled it out’ so as usual, Sargent is full of shit. Anyone who tweets this bullshit, needs to explain how PBO is gonna ‘raise the Medicare age’ w/o the Senate?

          • But according to Sargent, what Durbin said doesn’t count because the Dems “dropped the public option”

            Greg Sargent ‏@ThePlumLineGS
            @bogan3253 @PragObots The same way it happened when Dems dropped the public option. Dems agree to go along b/c alternative is worse.

            It doesn’t matter what Dems say, Sargent and his ilk are gonna believe and promote negative rumors.

          • Ebogan63

            Never mind that there were never any votes for the PO, Great to ignore that li’l nugget of info. In Sargent’s world, Dems are always in a weak position vs. the ‘masters of the universe’ GOP.

  • rikyrah

    John Boehner slow-walks the country towards the fiscal cliff
    Posted by Greg Sargent on December 11, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    John Boehner went on the House floor today to reiterate his demand that the White House propose detailed spending cuts to prove its seriousness about reaching a fiscal cliff deal:

    As you know, Dems have already agreed to well over $1 trillion in spending cuts in 2011 — cuts Boeher himself said were significant at the time. By contrast, Republicans have not agreed to a penny in new rates. Since experts believe we can’t raise a substantial enough amount in deficit reducing revenues without hiking rates, the basic situation here is simple: One side has made far more concessions towards real deficit reduction than the other has. And the one that hasn’t made as many concessions is the one demanding still more — even though it lacks the leverage here.

    I continue to remain puzzled about what this is supposed to accomplish. Obviously the idea is to try to blame the White House and Dems for the failure to reach a deal. But polls continue to show that Republicans are losing this PR battle badly. Yesterday’s Gallup poll found that only 26 percent of Americans approve of the GOP’s handling of the fiscal cliff talks, versus 64 percent who disapprove. For Obama the numbers are 48-44. That comes after Republicans have demanded for weeks that Dems detail spending cuts first. This would seem to suggest the current strategy is not working.


  • rikyrah

    December 11, 2012 9:31 AM
    Ancient Battle

    By Ed Kilgore

    The right-to-work blitz in Michigan may have been a tactical surprise to unions and to Democrats. But timing aside, the legislation represents an ancient, almost primal cause among conservatives who view unions as both an economic and political threat to a free market society in which workers are independent contractors whose low pay and meager benefits are an accurate benefit of their limited value to the enterprises that make all good things possible.

    In a piece on how Gov. Rick Snyder has squandered his image as the rare “moderate” Republican, Salon’s Josh Eidelson links to a video where a national GOP leader from Michigan tells a Tea Party audience just a few months ago that conservatives are determined to enact right-to-work in Michigan by ballot initiative if Snyder and legislators don’t get it done legislatively. You’ll hear a lot of magic names as among the forces working towards that end: the Koch-financed Americans for Prosperity, Amway founder Don DeVos, former Michigan Gov. John Engler, who now directs the Business Roundtable, etc.


  • GreenLadyHere

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    that- – INSULT 2 Ms. SERENA —in the FOREFRONT – – -UNTIL the WTA

    —SANCTIONS her RACIST arse!!- — –

    Heck they really wanted 2 “sanction” Ms. SERENA 4 – –“doin’ the C-WALK”!!
    Annnnd prolly woulda —IFFF THEY KNEW WHAT she was doin’. LOL

    NO! – – -THIS!!! IS! –SOME — -SERIOUS RACISM!!!

    annnd ALL those –LAFFERS – –BEEN LAFFIN annnd/or tryin’ 2 GET 2


    Maybe REV AL can do a SEGMENT annnnd SHOW ERRYBODY the

    “NEW- -2012 VERSION”- – of – —BLACK FACE– –EXCEPT- —


    Jus’ sayin’. . .. ANGRILY!!! — – –

    • edp4bho

      Hiya POU and GLH. Exactly the way I perceived this, GLH. But, who’s surprised? Racists are always butt hurt about us, no matter the issue. Our oppression is their obsession.

      • GreenLadyHere

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        —-THIS: – –>Our oppression is their obsession. – —

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        Good 2 C U edp4bho. :>)

    • dannie22

      hey GLH!! im angry too. i cant express it right now, but im sick of these racists hatin on black women

      • GreenLadyHere

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        —***fist bump*** :>) – – –

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  • Miranda


    Hostess Maneuver Deprived Pension

    Hostess Brands Inc. said it used wages that were supposed to help fund employee pensions for the company’s operations as it sank toward bankruptcy.
    It isn’t clear how many of the Irving, Texas, company’s workers were affected by the move or how much money never wound up in their pension plans as promised.
    After the company said in August 2011 that it would stop making pension contributions, the foregone wages weren’t put toward the pension. Nor were they restored.

    more here

    • nellcote

      But the owners got their bonuses so it’s all suck.

      • conlakappa

        I thought they used the pensions to fund that bonus. The feds should investigate this mess.

  • Miranda

    Afternoon thread is up!

  • Ebogan63

    Recall Obama’s speech to the Business Roundtable last week:

    ” I want to send a very clear message to people here: We are not going to play that game next year. If Congress in any way suggests that they’re going
    to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation — which, by the way, we had never done in our history until we did it last year — I will not play that game. Because we’ve got to break that habit before it starts.”

    Does this sound like someone who doesn’t have leverage? Perhaps Greg Sargent would like to rethink his bullshit answer to me when I showed him Durbin’s ruling out any raise in the Medicare age.

  • Alma98

    Afternoon all, busy wrapping presents.