September 24, 2017

Wednesday Afternoon Thread: Checkmate

Dear GOP:

  • lamh35

    Ugh. When is Kim Kar-trash-ian gonna be off Drop Dead Diva? Ugh can’t stand her mug on one of my fav summer shoes

  • MonieTalks

    If it hasn’t happened already…

    The PLs , emo-progs, and fauxgressives will scream bloody Armageddon moreso than the GOP on the executive privilege order.

    By the end of the week, we will have articles out the yang about the dictator PBO who is shrouded in secrecy, has been a disappointment and is not deserving of public office…..and you won’t have to touch nary a right wing site to read it.

    Sit back and watch.

    • gc

      screw ’em

    • GreenLadyHere

      MonieTalks – — 2 ALLA DEM!! –

      — – — – —- —***DA HAND – – –TALK 2 IT***-

      — ***handin’ U da POU FAM popcorn****

    • GN

      Because there’s little to distinguish a lot of the professional left from the hardcore right. This is why the PL can always be counted on to amplify the right’s message, just so-called from “the left.” Both entities are simply looking to profiteer / amass power / grow influence without regard to regressive outcomes; both entities use sensationalism to drive page clicks, readerships, viewerships in the guise of demanding that the country follow their dictates; both entities cultivate ignorance and faux outrage amongst relatively small yet profitable boutique media consumer audiences. This is why I don’t read certain spaces and look for media digests (like this one, tpv, abl, tod, etc.) with a totally different editorial point of view.

  • Miranda

    Ron Paul: I take Social Security checks but will eliminate it for others

    Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul on Tuesday admitted that he got a monthly Social Security check, a program that he eventually wants to eliminate.

    During an interview on MSNBC, Paul insisted that he would preserve Social Security longer than some of the others in his party.

    “I want young people to opt out of Social Security,” the Texas congressman told MSNBC contributor Mike Barnicle. “In my more pragmatic stands on how we get to the place I want to go, actually I’m probably offering a program where some of these programs that we have taught people to be so dependant on, I would probably preserve them longer than others because we are going to lose them because of the bankruptcy that is coming.”

    more here

  • MonieTalks

    So Ron Paul says, “Yeah, I cash them Social Security checks…..

    Uh huh…..

    Interview with Sam Stein ( I know, I know)

    STEIN: But you haven’t done it yourself…Don’t you think you chould have set a good example for the future generations. You’re not the wealthiest man in congress, I know that, but you have enough means to take care of yourself in retirement…Couldn’t you have set an example?

    PAUL: No. I think the programs are so designed, just as I use the post office too, I use government highways, I do that too, I use the banks, the federal reserve system, but that doesn’t mean that you can’t work to remove this in the same way on Social Security.


    • rikyrah

      he’s a grifter.

      same with his self-certifying, getting money from Medicare and Medicaid grifting SON

  • GreenLadyHere

    Good Afternoon miranda – —The –TAGS! – — The TAGS!. LOL. – –

    – – –THOSE 2 – – -the DEFINITION of – –BLAH POWER!!

    – – – -***fist in da air*** — – ***head down** — ***Afro pic in hair*** – —

    A RIGHTEOUS – — SALUTE!! — STAND STRONG – – -U 2!> – – -AMEN —

    – — – —- –WE GOT YOUR BACK! – – –

    – – – –NO WEAPON – – -SHALL PROSPER! – – – –

  • MonieTalks
    • Unfortunately, some on the left feel the same way.

    • Aquagranny911

      I’m trying so hard not to hate these goatfiggers.

      • gc

        I hate them.

        • AxelFoley

          I hate them right with you, gc.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – – – –REP. ELIJAH CUMMINGS – – – –FAST annnd FURIOUS!! – -annnnd FACTS!!– —

    — – – –Holder meets with Issa on Fast and Furious – – —

    – – — –Rep. Elijah Cummings, Ranking Member of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, joins Andrea Mitchell Reports to discuss Attorney General Eric Holder’s meeting with Oversight Chair Darryl Issa over the Fast and Furious program.

    I’m sooo happy that HE is on the committee. :>) A TRUE –WARRIOR!!

  • MonieTalks

    How Opponents Won The Health Care Messaging War

    It seems that during the pivotal period during which the legislation was being crafted (and the public was forming an opinion), from June 1, 2009, through March 31, 2010, nearly half the media coverage (49 percent) “focused on politics and strategy as well as the legislative process.” How much focused on what the measure would actually do? Just 23 percent.

    The study also measured how often media reports mentioned terms used by opponents of the bill, such as “government-run,” or “rationing health care,” compared to those used by supporters, such as “pre-existing conditions” or “more competition.” It found that terms used by opponents “were far more present in media reports than terms associated with arguments supporting the bill.”

    read more:

    • nellcote

      So 3 years later and they’re just beginning to notice.

      • AxelFoley

        Yup. They are either unconsciously or willfully obtuse. We’ve been saying this shit from Day One.

  • PBO’s campaign is on a roll today!

    Michael Falcone ‏@michaelpfalcone

    Obama official says Romney is in a “witness protection program” & only comes out “for the occasional Fox” intvu

    • gc

      WHITENESS Protection Program

    • nellcote

      Speaking of the PBO campaign, I saw my first ad on the teevee today.

  • Ebogan63

    Love that pix, LOL!!

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – – – -MORE – -FACTS- —on FAST annd FURIOUS! – – –

    – – – –Five Things To Know About The Republican Witchhunt Against Attorney General Holder — –

    – —In 2006, during the presidency of George W. Bush, the Justice Department launched the first of a series of misguided “gunrunning” schemes that eventually led to the death of federal Agent Brian Terry. Rather than look to ways to prevent such a tragedy from happening again, however, House Oversight Chair Darrell Issa’s (R-CA) spent his tenure as a committee chair trying unsuccessfully to embarrass Attorney General Eric Holder.

    Next week, Issa plans to escalate this witchhunt by holding an committee vote on a resolution to hold the Attorney General in contempt of Congress. Here’s what you need to know about this vote:

    1. Issa Has No Case: Issa’s uncovered no evidence showing Holder bears any blame for the botched operations begun under George W. Bush, even though the Justice Department turned over thousands of pages of documents concerning the operations. Instead of accepting this fact, Issa has requested many more documents containing confidential information regarding ongoing law enforcement investigations, and is now threatening to hold Holder in contempt if these documents are not turned over. Holder is entirely correct to withhold these documents, however, because Justice Department documents are not subject to congressional subpoena if they would reveal “strategies and procedures that could be used by individuals seeking to evade [DOJ’s] law enforcement efforts.”

    – – – – -The RECORDS – – -SPEAK TRUTH!! – – – –

    – – –CALLING – – — -BLACK PRESS!! – — -WHERE U AT??? – — –

    • Admiral_Komack

      Looking for their slippers.

      • GreenLadyHere

        LOL – –Admiral. :>) – — – –

        – — FOUND ‘EM!! :>) – – –

        THEY can — MARCH in these. LOL.

        • AxelFoley

          Can we ship a pair to Maxine?

  • rikyrah

    love the pic

  • dannie22

    I love these two men!!!

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – – –A FIRST!! — YOUNG[est] – – -GIFTED – – annnd – — BLACK!!

    – – – –TheGrio’s 100: Justus Williams, ‘LeBron James of chess’ is the youngest black chess master

    – – – –In just four years, Bronx native Justus Williams went from chess novice to being awarded the level of chess master by the United States Chess Federation at age 12, becoming the youngest African American chess master in history. He describes himself as “the “LeBron James of chess.”


    – – – -VIDEO- – –

    Williams was your typical Air Jordan-wearing, music-loving kid going to public school. In third grade he started looking for an extracurricular activity to get involved in, and his mother suggested chess. Williams joined an after-school program called Chess in the Schools and caught on to the game quickly. His teachers took notice. From there, Williams started competed nationally and internationally, winning titles along the way.

    Justus Williams is making history as… an internationally recognized chess master. Williams is ranked fourth in the world in his age group and has traveled all over the world to play other renowned chess players, some more than twice his age. As the youngest African American chess master,Williams is catching the attention of the black community, a group not often linked to the game.


    – – -WE R PROUD of U! :>) – – –

  • MonieTalks

    Let me just say, I do not want to offend our non-POC friends here at POU. But I have to say that in this time of the Obama presidency, a whole lotta white folks across the board (in addition to POC) are showing their behinds and crying out for attention at unprecedented levels, it is sickening.

    Case in point:
    Last week, David Bronner of “Dr. Bronner’s magic organic soaps”, was arrested after locking himself in a steel cage that he had dropped off outside the White House protesting the government’s ban on industrial hemp. In the cage of course, was hemp plants and equipment. While there, Bronner is seeking attention in his best Dan Choi style, screaming “Dear Mr. President, Let U.S. Farmers grow hemp!!!!”….you know, the President is always the big bad one taking away the rights….especially on the marijuana activists front.

    So being the natural researcher that I am, I looked to see if there was anything passed during THIS administration that all of a sudden outlawed industrial hemp. Well the truth is, it has been outlawed since 1970. Yep 1970, hemp has been a controlled substance for at least 42 years, if not longer.

    But interestingly enough, it seems that David Bronner has pulled this stunt only once more and that was in 2009 at the DEA. Ain’t it funny how he has bucked up during this administration, protesting a law that has been on the books at least 42 years, but for all accounts and purposes been seemingly quiet prior.

    Uh huh…..It truly is comedic at times seeing all these white folk, who now all of a sudden, can’t turn away a protest if their life depended on.

    • dannie22

      Sounds like a nut. And i like his soap too lol

    • edp4bho

      Whole lot of white sheets airing…….! Just saying.

      • Admiral_Komack

        …and some blacks are happy wearing them.

    • Aquagranny911

      Lots of folks are “showing their behinds.” I’m making lists & taking names! Bronner sounds like a fruitcake with extra nuts. I never liked his soap.

    • Admiral_Komack

      Fucking teabagger.

      • Aquagranny911

        Hola, I left you a reply to your question last night on the evening thread if you are interested.

        • Admiral_Komack

          I saw it.

          Other than the sneering Native kid, your message was well received by the other persons there?

          • Aquagranny911

            Very! We registered two older people who had never voted before in their lives. There will be some talk & what I said will be passed on. It’s important we get our Native Peoples to vote. They have more skin in this game than they may realize.

            Ripples in a pond.

    • gc

      Thank you for trying to be tactful, but as one of your non-POC friends here, I rarely disagree with anything that is said here. I don’t always UNDERSTAND everything, and some bits are nasty toward women (we are not all “wrinkled”) but politically, I am right there with you. I keep waiting for the generalizations about Whites to bother me, but for some reason they don’t. The corollary (“all Blacks are…) would not go over well but that is so viscerally different. There is a raw honesty here that cannot be touched. Can’t put it into words. Probably why I got banned from DKOS.

      I get that when you talk about “White folk” you don’t mean all. Hmmm…maybe that is the difference – when Whites say “all Blacks” they DO mean all.

      • GreenLadyHere

        gc – —UNDERSTANDING U. :>) –

        -ALL does not mean ALL -’cause WE do have the – -SKIN FOLK who R NOT KINFOLK. :>)

        – – –***cough – -ALL the BLAH RE-THUGS who have NOT participated – -In DA STRUGGLE —’cause – -THEY HAVE ovacome –HAH! -cough***

        Annnd there is DIVERSITY – – – -in the STRUGGLE. :>)- – –

        All clear. :>)

      • AxelFoley

        Funny thing, gc, is I keep forgetting you’re not black. 😉

    • GreenLadyHere

      MonieTalks – –We KNOW. Annnd UNDERSTAND the CONTEXT. :>)

      – -THIS; – – -> are showing their behinds and crying out for attention at unprecedented levels, it is sickening.



      Jus’ axin’. . . . . LOL.

      Is this the time when we say – – -Don’t drop the – —- -SOAP!!? – — – -LOL

    • Elie

      It’s all part of that stupid David Maraniss and his stupid book push to label President Obama as a pot user who now prosecutes other pot users.

    • nathkatun7

      MT, I think the example you cited illustrates what’s wrong with all the bashers of President Obama. And here both the bashers from the left, the right and the media. They all seem to have taken Rush Limbaugh seriously who called him ” magic Negro.”President Obama was suddenly supposed to wave his magic wand and solve all the problems that have afflicted this country, not just during the Bush Jr presidency, but for over two centuries. He had to do that at least in his first two years, but no longer than his first term.

      I challenge all the learned people in history to show me a president who was subjected to this impossible standard.

      • AxelFoley

        Seriously. I’ve never seen a President who has had so much thrown at him, particularly from those who are supposed to be on his side and know better. How they expected him to clean up not only Bush’s mess, but over 40 years of GOP messes and 400+ years of mess that has festered in this country is beyond me.

  • MonieTalks

    Don’t forget….Cedric the Entertainer and Niecy Nash have a new show on TVLand called “The Soul Man” that premieres tonight at 10/9c.

  • rikyrah

    Things Black Presidents (and First Ladies) Are Not Allowed to Do
    The growing list – according to Republicans and Republican-leaning media – of things white Presidents and their first ladies can do, but black ones can’t:

    1.Deliver State of the Union without being heckled
    2.Complete Rose Garden remarks without interruption
    3.Call for a joint session of Congress (the NERVE!)
    4.Take a vacation (LAZY!)
    5.Play golf (ELITIST!)
    6.Play basketball (GHETTO!)
    7.Attend Harvard (QUOTA!)
    8.Have a birthday party (must instead be called “hip hop barbecue”)
    9.Invite other black people to White House (THUGS!)
    10.Speak to school children
    11.Appoint judges
    12.Serve without providing long-form birth certificate to douchebag rich guy and racist Sheriff
    13.Serve without providing SAT scores (see #7)
    14.Lawfully use executive authority when Congress refuses to act
    15.Issue orders as Commander-in-Chief of the military
    16.Take a single scintilla of credit for killing the world’s biggest terrorist
    17.Run for re-election
    18.Raise funds for said run
    19.Go on late night TV
    20.Encourage healthy eating
    21.Have garden
    22.Do push-ups
    23.Display awesome arms
    24.Be larger than size 6
    And finally (for now), the big one…

    25. Use teleprompter

  • rikyrah

    Another Republican Lie: GOP Admits They Have No Plan to Replace ObamaCare
    By: Sarah JonesJune 17, 2012

    Remember the Republican 2010 “repeal and replace” Obamacares mantra? Well, kiss that goodbye. Their new mantra is “repeal” and deal.

    With the Supreme Court expected to rule on the Affordable Healthcare Act within the next two weeks, Republicans are taking yet another out of touch, premature victory tour, gloating about having no plans to replace healthcare reform. They are swearing to repeal any parts left standing. No, seriously — Senator John Barrasso (R-WY) explained, “The goal is to repeal anything that is left standing.”

    more here

  • Miranda

    Media Trackers, the Right’s New Oppo-Research Attack Dog

    Blog network launched by a former RNC staffer aims to capitalize on—if not create—liberal scandals.

    In June 2010, half a dozen rich donors came to Drew Ryun, a former Republican National Committee staffer, with the kind of question a dyed-in-the-wool operative like himself could only dream about. “If you had X number of dollars,” he recalls the donors saying, “what would you do that the conservative movement does not have?”

    Conservatives have their think tanks, dozens of them at the state and national level. They also have a corporate-funded legislation mill in the American Legislative Exchange Council. What conservatives lacked, Ryun told the donors, were nimble attack blogs that could quickly capitalize on the latest missteps by big-government politicians or the “liberal” media—essentially hard-hitting, opposition-research-style shops that prize scoops, speed, and scandal over policy briefs and press conferences. His pitch: Create a network of one- and two-man digital media outlets with low overhead, rapid response, and a nose for controversy.

    more here

    • Aquagranny911

      Dear Lord, help us!

      • nathkatun7

        Yes Indeed, Aquagranny! These people will stop at nothing in their determination to defeat President Obama. What the corrupt criminal Issa did today is the part and parcel of the coordinated campaign against the President.

        Some of us in California are familiar with Darrell Issa. He, along with the corrupt and now defunct Enron corporation, coordinated the scheme to create the electricity shortage crisis that resulted in rolling black outs. He then used this crisis to force the Democratic governor, Gray Davis, out of officer. Issa wanted to be governor of California, but his criminal past was exposed by the papers forcing him to abandon his plan. Now this criminal is out to get the AG, and he hopes by extension the President, over another manufactured crisis. How come the media are not connecting the dots?

    • nellcote

      Blog network launched by a former RNC staffer

      grifters gotta grift. there’s a whole lot of money out there looking for a home.

  • GreenLadyHere

    miranda – — – JUST SO’S YA KNOW – – – —

    – — –FACT CHECK: Executive Privilege Does Not Apply Exclusively To Presidential Communications

    – – – – With today’s announcement that the Obama administration will assert executive privilege over some “Fast & Furious” documents, a number of critics in Congress have suggested that this must mean the President was involved with the scandal. But this conclusion relies on a fundamental misunderstanding — or willful ignorance — on their part of what executive privilege is.

    – — –SNIP- – –

    But there are two types of executive privilege: the robust “presidential communications privilege” and the more limited “deliberative process privilege.” The White House may invoke the latter to apply to executive branch officials outside of the president’s inner circle, as long as they were involved with the government’s decision-making process. Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and George W. Bush all asserted executive privilege in matters not involving presidential communications. And Bush Administration Attorney General Michael Mukasey invoked the same “deliberative process privilege” as recently as 2008, rejecting congressional subpoenas for reports of Department of Justice interviews with the White House staff regarding the Valerie Plame Wilson identify leak investigation.

    The mere invocation of executive privilege can hardly be interpreted as any evidence of involvement by the president himself — something clearly absent in this relatively low-level screw-up.

    – — – — -Watchin’ 4 da – — —SINGLE AGENDA ELECTION MEME

    Will THIS AFFECT the NOV/ ELECTION? – — – -NO! –PHOOLS!! – – —

    Annnd listenin’- —

    4 THIS!! – —

    [Gotta “bounce 4 a bit. MISSIN’ U/CARRYIN’ U – -in my ♥.]

    • nathkatun7

      You know what GLH, if this country had a legitimate media, this criminal Darrell Issa, and his enablers in the GOP, including the cry baby Speaker, the BS that transpired today would be thoroughly exposed and debunked. The reason this kind of BS is allowed to go on is because the mainstream media have abrogated their responsibilities. For example, the media should be educating people about the fact that Republican Presidents, especially since Richard Nixon, have invoked “Executive Privilege,” sometimes to hide wrongdoing, almost ten times more than Democratic Presidents.

      For me, I am just so angry that a man like Darrell Issa, with such a criminal background, is allowed to be a member of Congress and a chairman of a major Congressional committee. This the man who is leading a witch hunt of AG Holder.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY nathkatun7. ***BIG HUG*** :>) – –

        LOL. – – – -YA MEAN – – –The RIGHT-LEANING MEDIA? – – –

        THEY R – — the PROBLEM!! — MOSTLY — – –RACIST RAGS!! – –

        Then 2 AID annnd ABET: – – – -WE have soma the – –SILENT BLAH MEDIA – –Oh! —annnnd the BEYOND SILENT – – -CBC!!

        BUT – — -NOT 2 worry. – – – –

        KARMA WILL GET the – – – -“W”.

        ***slams desk**** :>)

        Good 2 C U — nathkatun7. :>)

  • MonieTalks

    One more mini rant:

    So that sloppy, toasted looking blob Arpaio arrests a 6 year old child….much outrage…no?
    Yet, let the next white child be subject to a TSA search that their “freedom-loving All American” parents object to, (how dare they make white folk resort to this type of scrutiny) and the story and angst will spread like wildfire.

    Like rikyrah said, I have never seen so many white folk stick up for Al Qaeda, especially since PBO scored his kill list from the bin Laden raid and is doing what Bush and em could only dream of.

    Funny thing is, these same folks, and many Americans at large, have no problem with restricting Islamic community centers being built in NYC or Muslims or Arabs being profiled at every chance, or bullying corporations to drop advertisements on TV programs about Muslim Americans like the one TLC had.

    And yet a six year old CHILD is subjected to a horrifying experience, and the main stream media could care less. I get more pissed off as I think about it.

    • Aquagranny911

      Excellent rant!!! Thank you! I can’t imagine that child’s fear at not only his own treatment but that of his parents. Our swine of a sheriff did this on purpose as just one more political stunt. He hates PBO. I predict that the raids, sweeps & traffic stops will increase as we get closer to November.

      Just as an aside, the Pinal county sheriff (yes, that one!) tried to pass off a family’s tragic murder/suicide as a trafficante killing even after Tempe police told him their investigation proved it was a father who lost it & killed his family & then himself.

      These people are shameless in their brutal tactics to hurt & scapegoat Latinos.

    • nathkatun7

      That’s some righteous rant, MonieTalks!

  • rikyrah

    June 20, 2012
    Fatuous and Furious
    Michael Steel, spokesman for John Boehner:

    Until now, everyone believed that the decisions regarding ‘Fast and Furious’ were confined to the Department of Justice. The White House decision to invoke executive privilege implies that White House officials were either involved in the ‘Fast and Furious’ operation or the cover-up that followed. The Administration has always insisted that wasn’t the case. Were they lying, or are they now bending the law to hide the truth?

    Adds Politico:

    Some House Republicans also tried to invoke the famous Watergate-era mantra, “Who knew what and when did they know it?” That was meant to suggest a more extensive scandal, though the lawmakers offered no new evidence to back up such a claim.

    My italics.

    In a sane world, italics wouldn’t be needed, because no such histrionic rot would be available to report. In a political season–by definition, insane–we expect bad, overwrought theatre from both parties; however until 14 years ago we never expected one of those parties to attempt a nullification of the last presidential election by congressional fiat–a coup, really. And until now, we certainly never expected the same party to so consistently reveal itself as ruthlessly hostile to the nation’s best interests and better angels.

    It seems there is no goodness, no virtue, no honor so historically engrained in the American character that it’s to be left unmolested by the GOP. The party is fully deployed in the broadest of broadside assaults on all legitimate political opposition, on republican integrity, on any sense of fair play, on public civility, even on plain human decency.

    There is, as they say, nothing sacred to these contemporary pseudoconservatives, except power–theirs.

    Lately my memory banks have experienced some serious flashbacks to something Bertrand Russell once wrote on the pitfalls of a liberal democracy in which executive and legislative powers are separated:

    Where such a doctrine is embodied in the Constitution, the only way to avoid occasional civil war is to practice compromise and common sense. But compromise and common sense are habits of mind, and cannot be embodied in a written constitution.

    There, in a mere two sentences, is the heart of the Mann-Ornstein diagnosis, “The Republicans are the problem”–for among them, there is no corresponding compromising or commonsensical habit of mind. They are instead the embodiment of a mindless rage in full pursuit of total power regained. Should the country go down as collateral damage, so be it.

    Prior to virtually every national election we are tutored by excitable pundits and sonorous politicians that this election could very well be America’s most crucial one. We generally dismiss their alarm as self-serving hype. But this time, they’ll be right.

  • rikyrah

    June 20, 2012
    Let Mitt be Mitt

    In his political love life, Ross Douthat yearns for a little excitement, a few fireworks–a bit of real passion, something perhaps less than Byronic but more than the phonebook. Douthat’s trying, he’s really trying, to love the one he’s with, I’ll give him credit for that, but his man keeps dozing on the sofa by dusk:

    [L]ately the Romney campaign seems to have decided that they can win this election without taking any substantial risks at all…; his general-election campaign seems carefully constructed to be as cautious and boring and even attention-repelling as possible…; the riskiest move the presumptive Republican nominee has made in the last two months was his decision to attend a fund-raiser with Donald Trump.

    Douthat seems surprised, and for the life of me I can’t understand why. In Romney’s robotic ways he represents the McDonaldization of American politics: you can have that tasteless, artery-clogging gob of processed animal flesh and perfect(ly) white bread with mustard or without, with onions or without, with pickles or without; but however you have it, it’ll be bland, because it’s meant to be tasteless, because some tastes offend.

    Douthat urges behavior modification:

    [S]ometimes the best way to win a bloc of voters is to actually try to win them. In this case, that would probably mean offering a policy agenda more attuned to the ways in which recent Republican economic policy hasn’t always delivered for middle-income voters – a health care agenda that promises more to the uninsured, say, or a tax agenda that’s more family-friendly than the current Romney proposals.

    In other words, Douthat suggests that at the eleventh hour the Republican presidential candidate woo him and others with wholly non-Republican policies. Douthat’s gentle, euphemistic counseling and attempt at “meaningful” communication is hilarious: Dear Mitt, please scuttle, if you wouldn’t mind, “recent Republican economic policy [which] hasn’t always delivered for middle-income voters”–yes, a gut-wrenching, retirement-demolishing, house-foreclosing, job-obliterating great depression is generally deemed short in the middle-class, happiness-delivery department–and “a health care agenda that promises more to the uninsured” is love’s way of saying either an individual mandate or single-payer.

    But I’m going to defend Mitt here. He should, with no little manly justification, just tell Ross: “You knew who I was, you knew what I was, before we got engaged. So don’t try to change me now.”

  • rikyrah

    Posted at 01:13 PM ET, 06/20/2012
    Take your pick: GOP plans would either explode deficit, or hike taxes on middle class
    By Greg Sargent

    That’s the conclusion of a new report Senate Dems released today — one that was reviewed by nonpartisan experts at the Tax Policy Center.

    Mitt Romney and Republicans like Paul Ryan regularly benefit from what you might call a presumption of deficit hawkery. Their fiscal plans cut taxes in ways that disproportionately benefit the rich, without specifying what loopholes and deductions would be closed to pay for those tax cuts and keep the budget balanced. But polls regularly show Romney is trusted on the deficit, and many commentators regularly claim Ryan is Very Serious about fiscal matters.

    The new report from Senate Dems is designed to break that hold on the discourse Republicans enjoy.

    “This report will help change the debate and show that Republicans are far more concerned with lowering tax rates on the very wealthy than on reducing the deficit,” Schumer said on a conference call with reporters. “So far Romney and Ryan have gotten away with not having to answer tough questions about their plans.”

    “This report pulls up the skirts,” Schumer said.

    The report finds that the Ryan budget — which Romney has endorsed — would require the middle class to pay much more in taxes to keep it revenue neutral. The Ryan plan would cut the top rate from 35 percent and replace the tax code with two brackets — 25 percent and 10 percent. The report says the only way to make up those revenues would be by getting rid of deductions that would mean taxes would go up by $2,700 on households that make between $100,000 and $200,000 per year.

    Republicans are arguing that the report is way premature, and that there may be other ways to make up the savings. A Ryan spokesman has now said he’s open to “changes” in the low capital gains tax.

    I asked Roberton Williams of the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center to assess the Dems’ claims. He said Dems were merely making assumptions about the deductions the Ryan plan would close. But he also noted that until the Romney and Ryan plans specify how they would pay for their tax cuts, they should be considered deficit busters. Williams:

    “The Ryan plan as laid out is a revenue loser and would make it harder to bring the deficit under control. As laid out, both plans lose lots of revenues and would make the deficit worse.”
    The larger context here is that Romney has embraced Ryan economics, and has openly suggested he sees no need to specify what loopholes and deductions he’d close to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy — for the duration of the election. There’s been some chatter today about that big Politico story lamenting that Campaign 2012 has been about trivial matters and suggesting reporters need to do a better job taking on the important questions at the heart of this election. This might be a good place to start.

  • rikyrah

    Setting the Table for Second Term Impeachment
    Posted on 06/20/2012 at 11:40 am by Bob Cesca

    Mitch McConnell — albino sleestak and the most powerful Republican in the Senate — accused the president of, basically, Watergate. Not the actual Watergate, but a high crime that’s almost exactly the same.

    [T]he Senate’s top Republican also accused the [Obama] administration of improperly using government agencies to exert political pressure.

    “What they’re trying to do is intimidate donors to outside groups that are critical of the administration, McConnell said. “The campaign has rifled through donors’ divorce records. They’ve got the IRS, the SEC and other agencies going after contributors trying to frighten people and intimidate them out of exercising their rights to participate in the American political discourse.”

    Again, he’s in charge of the Senate Republicans — not some fringy right-wing talk radio goon. I think they’re getting ready for a potential impeachment process if the president wins in November and the Republicans take the Senate.

    • Aquagranny911

      That’s another reason why we have to work our collective butts off for our Dem Senate & Rep candidates. We need every seat in Washington we can get!

      • Scopedog


        And no tolerance for those who howl “both parties are the same”. If the past three years–no, the past TWELVE years–haven’t taught them otherwise, then they are beyond saving. Screw them.

      • nathkatun7

        You are absolutely right Aquagranny!

    • AxelFoley

      “Mitch McConnell — albino sleestak”

      I’m done. Dammit, I’m done.

  • rikyrah

    Toward a Politically Correct Conservatism, Cont.
    By Ta-Nehisi Coates
    Jun 20 2012, 1:30 PM ET 123

    The tactic of rebutting a legitimate charge of racism by taking loud and oafish offense is not simply the tactic of David Yerushalmi, but of ridiculous bigots in general. We’ve seen this tack taken over the years by everyone from Geraldine Ferraro to Rush Limbaugh. The practice is indeed as old as slaveholding white supremacists insisting that the abolitionists would make slaves of white.

    One thing I’ve never seen is a bigot cite actual racism as a defense against their own racism. Enter the bizarre case of Barbara Espinosa, a right-wing radio host in Arizona who said the following of Barack Obama:

    “I don’t believe in calling him the first black president,” she said, “I voted for the white guy myself. I call him a monkey.”

    When confronted with the fact that what she said might be racist Espinosa insisted that
    “with a last name of Espinosa I’m anything but racist.” She then rather spectacularly claimed that she was referring to a cartoon, as though this were a defense. You can click through at your peril. Suffice to say it’s merely a Google image search of cartoons depicting Obama as a monkey.

    I don’t even know how one begins to follow that logic. It’s worth noting that the head of the Arizona GOP was a guest on the show when the monkey remark was made. The gentleman stayed silent through the entire exchange, intervening only to denounce Obama as a “national sickness.”

    As a footnote, I need to say that it has been pointed out that cataloging racism is a sight below the standards of this blog. I sort of agree. But over the course of the Obama presidency I have become convinced that no single force exerts a greater pull on his presidency than white racism. Not white resentment. Not white populism. White racism. I don’t know how else to explain a health care denounced as reparations, the rather continuous disrespect, the sense that he is a Kenyan illegitimate or all of the attendant theories. I do not know how else to explain a state like West Virginia, arguably the most racist in the country, where delegates are now refusing to endorse the president.

    There will be more on this in the coming months. I don’t want to scoop myself. But my point is I can only stop talking about racism, when it ceases to be a significant force in our politics. When the mere act of being white gives Obama’s opponent “a home-state advantage nationally,” I can’t stop. It would be deeply wrong to stop.

    • nellcote

      Wow. I know Ta-Nehisi Coates tries not to go there, preferring to think more broadly about the situation but when even he’s fed up enough to speak out, it’s past time for these other media types (Corney, Boyce, Tavis etc.) to rethink what they’ve been doing to this President.

    • edp4bho

      I think I’m going back to my boycott of media. It’s hot, and I was getting so much done, and feeling so relaxed. Except for POU and Positively Barack, and sensible links, these people writing and yacking all day long aren’t saying anything worth reading or listening to. Professional writers and talkers, that’s all they are. When I add everything up, I get nothing. I actually learn more walking through my garden. Thanks POU, for keeping me abreast on all things PBO, and he and AG Holder, as well as the ACA, GLH’s mom, and all of you are in my prayers. Will still be lurking everyday, a word here and there. And gearing up to GOTV to defeat the miscreants who hate me and mine.

      • gc

        I learn the most watching the Obama’s. They are like my Buddhist heroes from the literature come to life.

        I stopped attending to the media around the time I was banned from DKOS. Why wallow in Hell?

      • nathkatun7

        I don’t blame you, edp4bho for your disgust with the media. I’ve been boycotting cable television since mid 2009, and added on network tv in 2010. I still read some papers but I cancelled my subscription to my right wing SD Union paper six years ago. I now and then glance at somer papers, like the NY Times, Newsweek, Time, and WPost, when I go to the library or whenever some one posts a link.

  • Sharyl Attkisson ‏@SharylAttkisson

    CBS News has learned the family of ICE Agent Jamie Zapata has filed a claim against DOJ and federal agencies for wrongful death

    • Miranda

      The family of Pat Tillman straight giving the GOP the finger at this very moment.

  • So what is Jasiri X complaining about on Twitter?

    • Miranda

      you gotta read Elon’s timeline. LOL – evidently he’s trying to get more face time on MHP’s show.

      • dannie22

        I guess more face time means more money. He must still be paying off his wedding lol

      • I’m reading it now. Dude is spazzin’ out just because someone dared to disagree with him?

        And Jasiri X’s arms must be diesel from all that goal post moving! lol

    • MsKitty

      I just can’t today with these idjits. I’m roasting and my patience is nil. Y’all hold it down.

    • nellcote

      What community is he saying isn’t being addressed by POTUS?

      • Miranda

        They’re on a “black issues” kick…and when asked what specific issues – he came back with Stop & Frisk and mass incarceration. I don’t even feel like getting into how dumb that response was.

        • aleth

          Stop and Frisk comes from Supreme Court case law. Each state applies them differently. The Federal government does not control NYC actions. What change join pending lawsuits or start one. Another manner WHY NOT START protesting bloomberg and NYPD? Why not start civil disobedience? — I know its too hard easy way is OBAMA SEE..

          If you want the President to get involved in the local police tactics, then be smart and do research on what his executive powers can do or what DOJ can do that it is not currently doing. Then push on that angle like others have. They research and try to see if Federal domains can impact local actions.

          On Mass Incarcerations: What specifically?

          • nathkatun7

            Well said, Aleth! I think these supposedly smart people forget that the President is not a king or an absolute ruler. Under this system of government the President’s power is still limited by such things as federalism and separation of powers.

          • AxelFoley

            Thank you. What gets me is, prior to PBO, I followed politics, but it wasn’t to the extent that some of these so-called pundits supposedly do. However, I still remember Civics class from high school and know what each branch of government’s roles and limitations are.

        • Then when we provided a link showing that the DOJ was investigating Stop & Frisk in NYC Jasiri tried to move the goal posts. When that didn’t work, he claimed we were disrespecting him and blocked us.

          Jasiri don’t be mad because you didn’t know what the DOJ was doing but we did. *snaps*

          • GN

            And the DOJ, and the EEOC, and numerous other federal agencies are doing even more than besides. Fuck these people; they don’t really give a damn about the black community beyond their little hustles or they would have made it their business to know the facts. Can’t stand these grandstanders.

        • Bri

          This all started after the move POTUS made on immigration on Friday. “POTUS has spoken out for women, gay people, and now Latinos, but he hasn’t spoken out for black people. Ro-Ro was saying this mess on Friday on Twitter.

        • nathkatun7

          “… mass incarceration.” Do you know who presided over a record of “mass incarceration” of young black males? Their beloved Bill Clinton.

      • Black issues but he didn’t give specifics.

    • GN

      Except who is he to speak for the entire black community? This is one of the most pragmatic and sophisticated political blocs in the country and if black people are saying this is a good President, then black people are saying this is a good President. Whatever re: the condescension and presumptuousness of the emonegroes and new media negroes (most of whom don’t even live in around, date or marry other black people in the first place). I think my first black POTUS is a great; thank you very much. All of these peacocks. What did conlakappa say? So many attention slores, so few stripper poles and glitter.

    • aleth

      What specific concerns are not being addressed in the federal level? What is the critique? What specifically are they seeking or having been seeking from the “federal” government?

      You know articulate something because I know Cornell wants Reparation but that is not happening. So what is it?

      First it was Pigford Settlement — Obama’s do or die moment to measure up according to Boyce and April Ryan. Next it was the Crack Cocain legislation..Next it was the numerous civil rights suit instituted by DOJ for mortgage fraud and discrimination for black folk.. next it was now Obama is talking about education to our community (stop lecturing us).. then its crime in Chicago like he is the damn mayor of the town or going to make folk stop acting stupid.. then we moved to Obama better say something about Trayvon Martin…next it was he is not gangsta enough… next it was BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT like it was not historically high.. like the federal goverment can police private hiring standard… oh but see the States/Local government were we should focus on are cutting jobs which predominately affect our communities–that does not matter — let’s look to Obama…NEXT its African food crisis.. that gets addressed, then its not enough black folk in his cabinet …. On and On

      Insecure fucks… All talk ain’t action on iota.

      What do you want? Articulate a fucking plan that can be instituted under federal authority that would have an impact on the local and state level. Articulate something within the reigns of the President’s authority not your local or state officials… Crickets… Assholes

      I have been so dissappointed by so many males of both races. It is really astonishing to me to see the only time alot of these males got something to say is to Obama or a black male. Elon James stay scared of Walsh, fake ass radicals.

      Same with West, Boyce etc.. .The truth is they all expected the old days– ACCESS to be the voice from the President to the Black Folk with paychecks. Grow up already.

      The only damn Agenda we need is to get our KIDS to take Education fucking serious. Education is at least a way out– education that leads to ownership. The only BLACK AGENDA needed is to focus on this generation and empowering them.

      Obama has been focusing on Black agenda before it was good for this asshats.. you know HE was the only one standing with the farmers seeking their settlement from discrimination.

      Stay critiquing while accomplishing nada.

      Alethbagger done.. But I swear one of my dissappointment has been to see some of these males just fall.

      • Daltex82

        Comment of the week for sure!

      • AxelFoley

        Thank you, thank you, thank you, aleth!

        All. This.

        All. Of. It.

    • rikyrah

      please ask, once again, from these New Kneegrows to give you a list of 10 things that are BLACK SPECIFIC that the POTUS is not addressing.

      • itgurl_29

        Not even ten, I’m still trying to see one issue. What ONE issue is being brought to PBO by black leaders that he is ignoring? One!

        • GN

          You know what the issue is, everyone here does.

          The number one emonegro/new media negro issue that President Barack Hussein Obama has not addressed is that he: hasn’t. put. them. on.

          Not an ambassadorship.
          Not a playdate for their kids with the girls.
          Not a throwaway WH position.
          Not a CBC bucket of skrimps.

          And that’s why they’re mad. It has nothing to do with the community at all. Because if it did, they’d be heavy cheerleaders for how black people benefit from healthcare reform, the salvation of the auto industry, HCBU grants, Pigford settlement, prison sentencing reform, I can’t even remember all this man has done to list even a truncated portion of it.

          • Admiral_Komack

            I am critical of the President because…he can’t or won’t hook a brother up…and I lay out my case in my new book “C’mon, My Man!” (snark).

            Corny West- “The brother has a point…and he says it with love.”

          • nathkatun7

            Totally nailed them, GN!

          • AxelFoley

            That’s all this is about. Straight up.

    • MonieTalks

      This is what trips me out…self-proclaimed enlightened kneegrows always have delayed angst.

      They are rightfully angry about “stop and frisk,” but how come you did not occupy the streets of NYC back in 2008 when ol Michael Bloomberg was busy pushing an term limit change amendment to benefit himself, for a chance at a unprecedented 3rd term.

      But nawwwww, they weren’t worried then because their righteous homeboy “Godfather of Hip Hop”Russell Simmons told you Bloomberg was cool with him, so he can be cool with y’all. So guess what…..Bloomberg won AGAIN in 2009. And now folks mad, finally….after his 3rd term…gtfoh.

      Mr. No Labels Bloomberg says, we are going to keep this policy whether you like it or not. And yetas expected, it becomes PBO’s fault. See this is what happens when you stay laser-focused on one person, keeping tabs on the so-called artificiaal Black agenda standards they set…..and instead let your local and state officials reek havoc under your nose while they’re still pouting with a PBO checklist in hand.

      • THIS. ALL OF IT.

        • Miranda

          pssst…how can we fit that on a tweet – his azz and Elon need to see it!

      • GN

        PBO’s admin came in and prosecuted these mfers who shot down people like dogs during Katrina. Successful prosecutions of police officers who shot down defenseless people during Katrina and who thought they’d gotten away with it. Crickets from this group who claim to be speaking for the “community.” F- them, because they don’t care about us; even when they are speaking for us, it’s about *them.* They don’t give a good got dayum about black people at the end of the day, I put my life on that.

        They can run that hustle somewhere else.

  • MonieTalks

    Such a disappointment..but kneegrows gon’ learn..they wanna be everywhere dropping criticism and yet their mess ain’t even halfway right. Karma is a bitch!

    …An attorney for a national slavery museum proposed by former Gov. L. Douglas Wilder has submitted a revised plan to dig out from $7 million in debt.

    Funny thing is, it comes a few weeks after this article:

    Ken Cuccinelli and Doug Wilder: Odd couple

    But it might surprise you to learn that the former Democratic governor also meets regularly with Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli (R), a tea party darling who’s running for governor next year.

    What do they talk about?

    Wilder says policy — after all, the nation’s first elected black governor is well versed on many topics, including higher education — as well as politics. That means Cuccinelli’s race against Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling for the GOP nomination.

    But Wilder says he meets with elected officials and candidates all the time. All you have to do is ask, he says.

    So has Bolling asked? “Not yet,” he said.

    Wilder’s support — and sometimes lack of it — has been known to cause more than a few headaches to members of his own party.

    Remember when he famously withheld his endorsement in the 2009 governor’s race despite multiple requests by the White House that he back Creigh Deeds (D) against Robert F. McDonnell (R)?

    Wilder, who served from 1990 to 1994, is notoriously unpredictable around endorsement time. He’s also known for saying whatever he thinks — much like Cuccinelli, who has garnered national attention for suing the federal government over health care, advising colleges that they could not adopt policies protecting gay people and subpoenaing climate change documents from the University of Virginia.

    Remember when Wilder called on Kaine to resign as chairman of the Democratic National Committee? Remember when he called on President Obama to drop Vice President Joe Biden?

    Some have questioned his influence, but candidates still keep coming back. Kaine and Wilder are scheduled to have lunch Thursday.

    During his final year at the University of Virginia, Cuccinelli had an internship with Wilder — the last Democrat he said he ever voted for — because he liked his fiscal toughness.

    read more:

    • MonieTalks

      I was just thinking..with Artur Davis’s calculated defection from the Democratic party and move to VA for a new political career and former Gov Wilder’s wishy-washy GOPTEA loving self…I am sure they have arranged a meeting or something to jumpstart Davis in VA.

      And then I see this. Back on May 3O, Wilder tweeted this:

      L. Douglas Wilder ‏@GovernorWilder
      Artur Davis discusses how Bill Clinton’s Democratic Party is no more – now just a party drifting into a weak state:

      uh huh….put the pieces together yall. I wouldn’t be surprised if these two speak at the RNC convention.

      • Miranda

        Damn…’re on it. I can see that happening for sure.

      • Town

        Wilder’s been buckdancing for the Confederates for a while. There was a picture in the black paper a while back of him saluting the Confederate flag. Wilder’s getting paid to deliver the black vote for Romney (and Cuccinelli next year) but Negroes ain’t been feelin’ Doug Wilder for a while now.

        • AxelFoley

          “There was a picture in the black paper a while back of him saluting the Confederate flag.”

          Really now? So he pulled a Harold Ford? Well, we see how well that worked out for old Harold, didn’t we?

      • AxelFoley

        Let them. Please let them do it. Expose these muthafuckas for who they really are.

        Wilder’s been such a disappointment. I was proud of him being the first elected black governor, but lived in MD at the time (in VA now) so I don’t recall how he governed. But he’s shown he’s a shady mofo now.

  • TyrenM

    Hello POU,
    This is my first trip here. Feels like home. A lot of familiar faces. My new “news source!”

    • dannie22


      • edp4bho

        Dannie, I haven’t personally said hello to you in quite a while. I just commented I’m taking a break from the chattering classes (not POU), but had to give you a shout out. 🙂

        • dannie22

          Hey EDP!!! Hope all is well. Dont blame you for taking a break from the crazy!

    • edp4bho

      Welcome TyrenM. Great news source.

    • Welcome TyrenM! Make yourself at home! 🙂

    • gc

      Hello Tyren
      Nice to meet you!

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    • GN


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  • Miranda

    oooooooooooooo………these fighting words!

    Catholic League President: “Jews Had Better Not Make Enemies Of Their Catholic Friends”

    Catholic League president Bill Donohue, a vocal conservative voice who recently warred with The Daily Show over a “vagina manger,” has infuriated prominent Jewish leaders with a private email last week to Philadelphia Rabbi Arthur Waskow.

    Waskow, a progressive rabbi involved in the Jewish Renewal movement, had criticized the Vatican and the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops in a Huffington Post op-ed for “attacking the religious freedom of millions of American women and the religious freedom of American nuns” over contraception.

    Donohue responded with a note to Waskow that launched an email exchange that ended with a warning, forwarded to BuzzFeed by a source close to the rabbi, that “Jews had better not make enemies of their Catholic friends since they have so few of them.” Donohue also includes a postscript saying, “I do not have a long nose.”

    more here

    • gc

      L’CHAIM, Rabbi Waskow!

      STFU, Mr Donohue!

    • GN

      He’s growing more strident and unhinged by day.

    • Admiral_Komack

      This asshole is going to bust HELL wide open.

  • aleth

    Thank You GN!!!!

  • Breaking News ‏@BreakingNews

    House committee holds Attorney General Holder in contempt for failing to turn over Justice documents – @AP

    Vote was along party lines.

    I’m thoroughly disgusted right now.

    • Miranda

      The thing is…will these kneegrows hollering about “black issues” and folks on the supposedly left side of the media commence to thoroughly taking over the news cycle with how much bullshit this is and shine a light on this whole sideshow??

      Ummm…probably not…but independents see this as GOP crazy and it aint playing well with them.

      • MsKitty

        Yeah. As much as I hate to invoke the name of Bubba, the GOP’s impeachment of him ended up backfiring on them spectacularly because they overplayed their hand. Same thing here. Even if it passes the House the citation is DOA in the Senate.

        This is yet another phony scandal the GOP is drumming up that will wither away like the others, because just like the others there’s no there there.

        • nellcote

          It’s not an impeachment attempt so it won’t go to the senate. if passed by the whole house, it’s a contempt citation so it goes to the DC AG (who works for the DoJ) and he’s required to convene a grand jury. It will take months to play out if it goes that far.

          • MsKitty

            Gotcha. I stand corrected.

    • GN

      No jobs bills, no kid hunger bills, no nothing. Just a bunch of bull and grandstanding as these people cash our tax dollars in the form of a paycheck. Issa and the House Republicans are a disgrace.

      • malletgirl02

        What makes me even more pissed about this is that I know how corrupt Issa is.

      • Scopedog

        And you know what’s sad? Back in 2010, we were warned what would happened if the GOP got back in control of either the House or Senate or both.

        ….But some fools didn’t listen, decided to “sit it out” to “send a message”. This bulls**t carnival that Issa’s heading up is the direct result.

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      • nathkatun7

        As I said yesterday, it’s really a sad day in America when criminal thief is now chair of a major Congressional committee that has the audacity to hold the AG in contempt of Congress over total BS!

    • Alma98

      After reading AG Holder’s statement this song started playing in my head.

  • rikyrah

    Posted at 04:31 PM ET, 06/20/2012
    GOP wins message war over health care — with big assist from media
    By Greg Sargent

    A number of people are pointing to this big Pew poll today to argue that it shows that Republicans won the message war over health care reform. I don’t think there’s any doubt that this is true. But one of the reasons Pew cites for this victory seems particularly interesting

    An analysis by PEJ of the language used in the media (PEJ research) reveals that opponents of the reform won the so-called “messaging war” in the coverage. Terms that were closely associated with opposition arguments, such as “government run,” were far more present in media reports than terms associated with arguments supporting the bill, such as “pre-existing conditions.”
    To conduct the analysis, researchers examined and identified three of the most common concepts being pushed by opponents of the bill and the three concepts being promoted by supporters and then examined the news coverage for the presence of those concepts and language. The concepts used by opponents were nearly twice as common as those used by supporters.

    Pew finds that the press coverage was also more more preoccupied with the political strategies employed by both sides than it was with the policy specifics of the law itself.

    The health law remains unpopular, but as Adam Serwer notes, this study also suggests that the press’s failure to inform Americans about the law may be a key reason why

    Pew describes the situation here as the White House having lost the “messaging war.” It’s also possible that most Americans don’t like the Affordable Care Act, and that more favorable coverage wouldn’t have convinced them otherwise. The phrase “messaging war,” however, seems like a deeply shallow way of saying that most Americans, who are neither health care wonks nor constitutional scholars, believed what they were hearing from the media. Journalists are supposed to separate truth from falsehood, but instead spent the bulk of their resources speculating about “politics and strategy.” This is the result.

    There’s no denying that Dems did get outplayed in the “message war.” Their talking points simply had no chance against the diabolically perfect “government takeover” of health care line, which is probably a key reason why Republican language did dominate press coverage. But it also happens to be true that falsehoods about the law went widely unrebutted in the media. When Politifact pronounced the “government takeover” line its Lie of the Year at the end of 2010, it also took a look at whether media figures rebutted it with any frequency. Politifact’s conclusion

  • rikyrah

    Posted at 03:15 PM ET, 06/20/2012
    The Fed punts
    By Jonathan Bernstein

    If you’re following the political blogs today, what you’re seeing is mostly the Fast and Furious fuss up on the Hill, and more on the Veepstakes. Neither is likely to affect the November elections — or, for that matter, the lives of most Americans.

    What will? The Federal Reserve’s decision today to hold steady for the time being, instead of easing monetary policy policy in response to recent signs of weakening in the economy. In other words, the Fed is not doing anything new to get people back to work.

    The reviews (mostly over twitter so far) from liberal and centrist economists and economy-watchers have not been kind. It’s summarized in the first two questions to Fed Chair Ben Bernanke at his afternoon press conference: “You’ve downgraded the outlook a lot, but not done much. Why?” In other words, the Fed board agrees that the economy needs help, but for whatever reason has chosen not to provide it, at least right now.

    The point here is that there’s plenty that the Fed could do, and for better or worse they are the only game in town, given that Congress is not going to do anything helpful, certainly not until after the election. That’s a long time for Americans who are suffering from the continued downturn to wait.

    More to the point, there’s a real divide between the parties on how the Fed should be responding to the weak recovery. It’s true that Barack Obama has not made monetary policy a priority, and has (at least publicly) declined to put any pressure on the Fed to act. But Mitt Romney wants the Fed to go in the other direction entirely: He opposes any further efforts by the Fed to help the economy. He has gone at least half-Paulite and seems far more concerned about (phantom) inflation fears than he does about economic growth.

    Indeed, on Sunday, in a little-noticed part of his Face the Nation interview, Romney bashed “politicians” who “want to do everything they can just before an election to try and temporarily boost something” when they should be concerned about “the potential threat down the road of inflation.” Greg earlier today talked about about how Romney benefits from a “presumption of deficit hawkery.” What we have here is Romney also benefiting from a presumption that he cares about economic growth, when in that interview he’s explicitly expressing far more concern about inflation.

    So enjoy the silly season. But keep in mind that what the Fed did today is what really matters, in terms of policy and electoral politics — and to the lives of millions of Americans.

  • nellcote

    News that the Romney campaign has taken on top gun “electoral strategist” Nathan Sproul gets unsurprisingly little attention. Distinguishing this Sproul from other vague shapes now buzzing the Citizen’s United honeywagon are long-buried reports of behavior that gives oppressive right-wing polluter-friendly theocracy a bad name.

    Sproul’s labors across several states on behalf of the G.O.P. are said to have included throwing away registration forms, altering election documents and firing workers who registered Democrats. The Dubya-era Justice Department passed on investigating Sproul, whose Lincoln Strategy Group went on to cuddle up to Big Coal. Democrats, even heavyweights like Ted Kennedy and John Conyers, complained early and often, but few in the media listened and none remembered once James O’Keefe concocted the ACORN scandal.

    • Daltex82

      Lie, cheat, steal nothing is too lowdown for these mofos.

  • Miranda

    Romney Campaign Press Call Gives Twitter Grist to Democrats

    Candidates beware, real-time Twitter reviews can make a bad conference call worse.

    The perils of holding a campaign conference call in the Twitter age were on vivid display on Wednesday when bad reviews of a Mitt Romney campaign call starting flooding Twitter in real time.

    Both the Romney and Obama campaigns hold myriad conference calls to promote their message du jour. But Romney aides got more than they bargained for this time.

    The topic of the call was supposed to be—shockingly—“President Obama’s Continuing Record of Failure on the Economy,” featuring standard Obama-bashing by Romney policy director Lanhee Chen and Staples founder Tom Stemberg.

    But all the reporters really wanted to do was talk immigration.

    more here

    • Alma98

      hee hee.

  • Miranda

    Right Wing Group: Protections To Prevent Prison Rape Are Too ‘Costly’ And ‘Heavy-Handed’

    A right-wing “think tank” released a report today criticizing the Obama administration’s new anti-prison rape protections as a “burden” that is too “costly” and “heavy-handed.”

    This week, the Department of Justice published new standards addressing the epidemic of rape and sexual abuse in our nation’s prisons. The guidelines, which apply immediately to federal prisons and give financial incentives for states to comply, are a laudable, widely praised, and long overdue step in combating rape in the United States.

    The American Action Forum, a Wall Street-funded group whose C(4) runs millions of dollars in attack ads against Democrats, responded by lambasting the move as too “costly” and “complicated.” From their report:

    more here

  • Miranda

    Remember we said it was some funny math………

    Mike O’Brien‏@mpoindc
    Remember, Romney Victory + RNC claimed a combined $76.8 last month; we see now just $23.4M of that went to the actual Romney campaign.

    • Alma98

      Yep we tried to tell the chicken little crowd that it was b.s.

      • gc

        The CL crowd also needs to see the latest poll reports as presented by Deaniac.

        • Alma98

          They’ll probably find something wrong with that too. lol

          • nathkatun7

            Alma. You are right. They wasted no time to attack the poll.

    • cosine

      Always got their thumb on the scale.
      And the PL-CL helping them all the way.