September 25, 2017

Wednesday Evening Thread: This Or That

P.O.U. commenter, Town, breaks it down like a fraction….


You go to McDonald’s and order a cheeseburger. They give you a McWrap instead. What do you do?


You can follow the Obama Way or you can follow the Chris Matthews Way.

The Obama way is you go to the counter and say,  “Hey, I ordered a cheeseburger but I got a McWrap instead. Can I have a cheeseburger?”. Calvin gives Obama a cheeseburger and tells him to keep the McWrap. Obama gets his cheeseburger and goes away.


The Chris Matthews way is to scream & shout how they gave him a MCWRAP instead of a CHEESEBURGER. The Chris Matthews way is to DEMAND to know who in the back put a McWrap in his bag instead of a cheeseburger and to pound on the counter and yell.

burgers_christemperThen the manager comes running to offer Chris a free cheeseburger and Chris shouts NO! He DEMANDS the person who gave him a McWrap be FIRED and he wants an APOLOGY for giving him a McWrap instead of a cheeseburger. So the manager profusely apologizes, gives Chris a cheeseburger and Chris marches out the door screaming that he will NEVER EVER come to McDonalds EVER AGAIN (until he comes back the next day).

The Chris Matthews of the world want Obama to scream, shout, pound the counter, flip the straws & napkins up, toss the ketchup packets and act a fool to get the cheeseburger. The Obamas of the world know all you have to do is point out the mistake and ask for the cheeseburger in order to get the cheeseburger.


Or you can follow the Rachel Maddow Way.

The Rachel Maddow way is to repeatedly question the cashier about why she was given a McWrapburger_rachel instead of a cheeseburger, to say that Burger King doesn’t give you a McWrap instead of a cheeseburger, in fact Burger King’s slogan is HAVE IT YOUR WAY. She will then proceed to tell the McDonald’s manager how the restaurant should be run and jump behind the counter to demonstrate how the McDonald’s would be run if she were running it.

Obama asks for the cheeseburger and goes away. Rachel Maddow will make you listen to how she would have done it before she gets the cheeseburger.


Or you can follow the Chris Hayes Way.

The Chris Hayes way is to bring over a representative from Arby’s to tell the McDonald’s people that not only is their service bad, but they don’t serve grass fed beef to the public like Arby’s does. That giving people McWraps instead of what they ordered is tremendous food waste and should be stopped at all costs. Chris Hayes and the Arbys worker will stand at the counter snarking on the deficiencies of McDonald’s until someone points out that both Arbys and McDonald’s are fast food places. Then Chris will ask for his cheeseburger and eat it, all the while complaining that the wrapper is not made out of recycled materials.


Obama asks for the cheeseburger and goes away. Chris Hayes puts down the cheeseburger but eats it anyway.

  • qosine

    Allriiiiight, Sepia. Town’s “You can follow the Obama Way, or . . . ”
    is brilliant. Love your photo ops! Hilarious!

  • rikyrah

    they are equally brilliant as you read them the second..or third..or fourth time.

    love the graphics

  • GreenLadyHere
  • lamh36

    love it!

  • lamh36

    Ok,Rikyrah (u saw Pitch Perfect right?) is it sad that I did laugh at bits of this trailer for Rebel Wilson’s new tv show on ABC? I might just have to give this show a chance…lol.

    Super Fun Night

    • rikyrah

      Saw it, and thinking about watching it too.

      I didn’t tell you – I finally saw all of Luther

      Why Idris!!

      WHY only FOUR!!!!

      Loved it, but it was so creepy.

      • lamh36

        love Luther, my lil sister says it’s boring. she refuses to give it a chance, but she loves Scandal…lol.

        Hmm hmm, Idris Elba as Luther is the only other man who can even compete with POTUS swag, except maybe Denzel Washington…lol

        • sagittarius

          If that is what almost 60 looks like vis-a-vis Mr. Washington… I’m down with it

          • qosine

            LOL, sagittarius

    • rikyrah

      Are you going to try Sleepy Hollow?

      I’m going to.

      FYI, this weekend on BBCAmerica – there’s a marathon of TORCHWOOD – I think you would LOVE this show.

      And on Saturday at 10 pm EST, they’re beginning to show ORPHAN BLACK again -I can’t say enough good things about this show, lamh. It’s AMAZING.

      • lamh36

        I’m actually #TeamTorchwood over #TeamDrWho.

        I’ve seen all the eps of Torchwood when it was on BBC America and I saw this new “marathon” series when it was on STARZ.

        Yeah, I’m def gonna give Sleepy Hollow a chance.

        • rikyrah

          yeah…another Torchwood fan…

          • BarbinAtlSouth

            Me, three.

            But not over David Tennant’s Dr. Who.

  • AxelFoley

    Town, you need to tweet these.

  • sagittarius

    This evening thread commentary by Town is one of the many reasons I love this site and recommend it to the grown and aware.

    • qosine

      How cool, sagittarius — “the grown and aware.”

    • GreenLadyHere

      LOL – – sagittarius—-Soo —WE —
      — –NOT LIKE THIS —-HUH? :>) – – -LOL — –

      – –WE —GROWN annnd AWARE — ***BIG fist bump*** :>) — Luvin’ it! :>)

  • rikyrah

    Blacks bring it home for Bill de Blasio

    By Jonathan Capehart, Published: September 11 at 2:08 pm

    After a piece last month about a second poll showing Bill de Blasio was not a one-poll wonder,
    a New York political operative close to the New York City public
    advocate e-mailed me with a prediction. De Blasio has “staying power.”
    When I asked whether it was possible for his candidate to snatch the black vote from the only African American in the race, the answer was succinct. “Yup. I do. Particularly amongst black women,” he replied. He was right on both counts.


    But let’s focus on African Americans. Former city comptroller Bill
    Thompson was the only African American in the race. He and de Blasio tied for the black vote with 42 percent each. Now, let’s take a deeper dive. Thompson beat de Blasio among black men, 49 percent to 36 percent.

    As predicted, De Blasio won black women, 47 percent to 37 percent. But here’s the kicker: While black men were 12 percent of voters, black women made up 17 percent.

    “Thompson lacks vision or energy,” my Big Apple source said. “He
    doesn’t connect.” Count that as a shame because Thompson is a smart, capable guy. Unfortunately, he has as much fire as a match under running water, and he completely blew the opportunity handed to him four years ago. Thompson came within four points of denying Mayor Bloomberg a third term. That near-victory gave Thompson a natural platform to build a constituency as the city’s alternative voice. He did nothing with it.

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia♥- – -Wait WHA’?– –

    – – —National Review to sue Cory Booker over Wazn Miller story— –

    — —- –b>The National Review, the conservative publication, is suing Newark mayor and Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Cory Booker over the veracity of a story he’s told on the campaign trail.

    Booker has claimed that he held 19-year-old Wazn Miller in his arms as he died as a result of gun violence back in 2004.

    Miller, who has lost both of his parents to AIDS, has become a symbol of Booker’s hands on approach to governing.

    According to the Newark Star-Ledger: —

    — -BUT. . . .
    THERE IS MORE- — – — —

    BU — bu —BUT – – -HE’S a HERO — -As far —as — – -HE KNOWS> – — :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia♥ — —HAH! —-gz —in trubbbblllllle. . .

    — –George Zimmerman Update: Police release dash camera video in alleged domestic dispute, report says– —

    – – – –-Lake Mary police on Tuesday released a dash camera video showing police approaching George Zimmerman after a reported domestic dispute with his estranged wife, Shellie, reports CBS affiliate WKMG.

    PICTURES: George Zimmerman crime scene photos

    In the video, Zimmerman can be seen walking backwards towards a police vehicle with his hands in the air. He’s also seen kneeling with his hands behind his head as police approach him and apparently handcuff him.

    Monday afternoon, Shellie Zimmerman called Lake Mary
    authorities to her parents’ home, saying her estranged husband was
    threatening her and her father with a gun. Days earlier, she had filed
    for divorce.

    “He’s in his car and he continually has his hand on his gun and he keeps saying ‘step closer’ and he’s just threatening all
    of us,” Shellie Zimmerman said in a 911 call.

    She later changed her story. According to police, Shellie Zimmerman and her father now say they never saw a gun, and no gun was found. Although CBS affiliate WKMG reports that Zimmerman’s attorney, Mark O’Mara, said Zimmerman had a gun holstered to his body.– – –
    C’MON — KARMAaaaaaaaa! — –

    • nellcote

      per Rev Al’s show: News to me that there was a woman in Zimmerman’s car who says there were guns in the car and they both had conceal permits.

      Why is this story so fucking hard to report? Why are the police afraid of Zimmerman? Is it his father?

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY nellcote. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

        – — THIS: – —News to me that there was a woman in Zimmerman’s car. . – —Maybe THIS is “WHYCOME” —that video – -was –“fuzzy” from bein’ trashed!! HAH!–

        LEMME get some info on his father. :>)
        Good 2 C U nellcote. :>)

        • nellcote

          It kinda freaks me out the way GZ (allegedly) kept telling SZ to “come closer”. Was he going to shoot her and claim “stand you ground” defense?

          • itgurl_29

            I think that’s what he was trying to do.

          • GreenLadyHere

            nellcote — – -DAT RACIST MURDERER – – -is a SCURRY FREAK!! – – – –SHEW KNEW!! – —

            I’m tellin’ U – –he was –SEDATED DURIN’ that trial!!-

            –Annnd –Kept fallin’ asleep! – – – -WE KNOW!!–

  • rikyrah

    Lhota Hopes to Capitalize on Elite Dismay Over a Liberal Tilt

    Published: September 11, 2013

    They are startled and unsure how to react. “Terrifying,” is how one banker put it.

    Many in New York’s business and financial elite, stung by the abrupt ascent of Bill de Blasio, an unapologetic tax-the-rich liberal, are fixated on a single question: What are we going to do?

    The angst, emanating from charity galas and Park Avenue dinner tables, has created an unexpected political opening for Joseph J. Lhota, the Republican nominee, whose once-sleepy candidacy is now viewed by players in both parties as their last, best hope for salvaging the business-friendly government of the Bloomberg era.

    Even before his victory speech on Tuesday night, Mr. Lhota was moving quickly to exploit his newfound role. He planned to speak on primary night with Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, whose blessing could confer credibility with the Manhattan establishment.

    His fund-raisers are wooing real estate and business moguls turned off by the leftist tenor of the Democratic primary campaign, and some Democratic officials have already quietly approached him to offer help.

    “I’ve heard from people who would usually be inclined to support the Democratic candidate,” said an upbeat James S. Tisch, the chief executive of the Loews Corporation and a finance chairman of Mr. Lhota’s campaign, as he greeted well-wishers at a breakfast fund-raiser that attracted 200 guests — both Democrats and Republicans — on Monday.

    Even if Democrats hold a runoff election, Mr. de Blasio’s commanding finish in the primary Tuesday night means that his liberal message could well dominate that intraparty contest, leaving Mr. Lhota likely to face a left-leaning opponent in November.

    Mr. Lhota knows he has to make a convincing case: he has struggled to connect on the campaign trail, where his semi-ironic humor does not always translate, and he occasionally needs to be reminded to talk to people at parades.

    • nellcote

      and some Democratic officials have already quietly approached him to offer help.

      Name names or you’re just rumour mongering.

      • rikyrah

        yep…name the ‘ Democrats’.

      • jziglar

        LOL ! Sounds like BS. I also don’t understand why some wealthy New Yorkers are so concerned about De Blasio. The guy is not some far left wacko. All he wants to do is provide greater equality and opportunity to the middle and lower class. The rich will still be rich and at the same time the middle class and lower incomes folks will be better off which leads to greater economic growth and wealth. It’s a win for everyone.

        • qosine

          For them, the only win is if THEY win.

        • AxelFoley

          It’s a zero-sum game for them.

    • qosine

      Uh Huh. NYT citing more of those “who usually be inclined
      to support the Democratic candidates.” Worried, Lhota?

      • rikyrah

        the same NYTimes that endorsed the THIRD PLACE CANDIDATE

    • itgurl_29

      This is what elite Dems do when someone comes in who is not from the establishment. They do it to Obama today. The Clintons are not DeBlasio supporters. They wanted Quinn. That’s the kind of support Lhota’s gonna be getting behind the scenes. Establishment Democrats and Republicans want NYC to continue to be a playground for the rich. They want the rent to continue to rise. They want the public schools to stay underfunded. That’s what they want. But they will still lose. The tide has turned and people are tired of the status quo. If left leaning NYers wanted more Bloomberg, they would have voted for Quinn but they didn’t. Period.

      • annvic

        This is why I ain’t worried about Hillary in 2016. Nobody but rich, white, privileged women support her fradulent ass; everybody us is done with the Clinton’s and ready to move the fuck on.

        • jds09

          I could like this 1,000 times. Their time has passed.

      • jziglar

        I don’t think the Clinton’s really supported Quinn. De Blasio is close to the Clinton’s and it’s been that way since Hillary ran for the Senate.

        • goldenstar

          Yeah, he’s closer to the Clintons than I would like.

  • rikyrah

    Mark Joyella


    RT @orlandosentinel: Breaking news: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with 1000s of kerosene-soaked Qurans, deputies say

    5:56 PM – 11 Sep 2013

    • nellcote

      and no one thought to throw a lit match at him?

      • AxelFoley


  • GreenLadyHere


    —Annnd A FIRST! — –

    – –Demetrius Newton dead at 85: Longtime Ala. lawmaker, civil rights leader dies
    — – —Demetrius Newton, a civil rights attorney who represented icons like Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King Jr. before becoming the first black person to serve as speaker pro tem of the Alabama House, has died. He was 85.

    Rep. John Rogers of Birmingham, a longtime friend of Newton, says he was notified by the lawmaker’s family that Newton died Wednesday morningafter a long illness.

    Gov. Robert Bentley served for eight years with Newton in the Alabama House.

    “He was a fine gentleman, and we had a strong mutual respect for eachother. He will be greatly missed, not only by his own constituents – but also by the entire state of Alabama,” Bentley, a Republican, said.

    Newton was former city attorney for Birmingham and had served in the Legislature since 1986. He was speaker pro tem from 1998 until 2010.


    • qosine

      I’m really saddened by so many of the civil rights leaders, unsung and sung, passing on. It really wakes me up to
      do more.

  • lamh36

    Huh…did anyone else realize that Obama speech last night actually “weakened the nation”

    @JoeKleinTIMEObama’s uneven Syria response has weakened the nation. It’s time to pivot |

    Like someone said, he’s not known as “JokeLein” for nothing….smh.

    • nellcote

      It’s time to pivot


    • qosine

      What “uneven Syria response”? Oh, PBO hasn’t. That
      makes your second claim — um, not true, or FALSE.

    • jziglar

      These people say the same thing over and over again. When will the Beltway morons finally realize that they are only talking to each other. No one cares about their stupid opinions.

  • rikyrah

    Walking While Black in the ‘White Gaze’

    “Man, I almost blew you away!”

    Those were the terrifying words of a white police officer — one of those who policed black bodies in low income areas in North Philadelphia in the late 1970s — who caught sight of me carrying the new telescope my mother had just purchased for me.

    “I thought you had a weapon,” he said.

    The words made me tremble and pause; I felt the sort of bodily stress and deep existential anguish that no teenager should have to endure.

    This officer had already inherited those poisonous assumptions and bodily perceptual practices that make up what I call the “white gaze.” He had already come to “see” the black male body as different, deviant, ersatz. He failed to conceive, or perhaps could not conceive, that a black teenage boy living in the Richard Allen Project Homes for very low income families would own a telescope and enjoyed looking at the moons of Jupiter and the rings of Saturn.

    A black boy carrying a telescope wasn’t conceivable — unless he had stolen it — given the white racist horizons within which my black body was policed as dangerous. To the officer, I was something (not someone) patently foolish, perhaps monstrous or even fictional. My telescope, for him, was a weapon.

    In retrospect, I can see the headlines: “Black Boy Shot and Killed While Searching the Cosmos.”

    That was more than 30 years ago. Only last week, our actual headlines were full of reflections on the 1963 March on Washington, the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King’s “I Have a Dream” speech, and President Obama’s own speech at the steps of the Lincoln Memorial to commemorate it 50 years on. As the many accounts from that long ago day will tell you, much has changed for the better. But some things — those perhaps more deeply embedded in the American psyche — haven’t. In fact, we should recall a speech given by Malcolm X in 1964 in which he said, “For the 20 million of us in America who are of African descent, it is not an American dream; it’s an American nightmare.”

  • nellcote


    Chicago council votes to end gun registry

    Gun owners in Chicago will no longer be required to register their weapons and obtain a city firearms permit after the City Council on Wednesday voted to eliminate the two provisions, in a victory for gun rights advocates.

    Chicago gun owners will still be required to apply for a concealed carry license under a new state law, but the gun registry in place since 1968 will be abolished. Illinois earlier this year became the last state in the nation to permit some form of possession of guns in public.

    • annvic

      Well this sounds like a well-thought out and rational decision that should bear wonderful results for Chiraq.

    • sagittarius

      Result of a lawsuit brought by the NRA against the city…. NRA won the suit.

      • nellcote

        Well that’s fucked up. But thanks for the explanation.

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia! —[Apologies ifff a dup] – – – – ——?????
    – — –Michael Jordan’s daughter Jasmine responds to gay rumors via Instagram

    —- Jasmine Jordan, daughter of the NBA Hall of Famer Michael Jordan, took to her Instagram account to address rumors that she has come out as gay.

    THERE IS MORE – – — – –O_O —-

    • Umm. Those pictures…

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY woody45 –:>) ***BIG HUG*** :>)

        — —Uhhh- —yes. —Annnd I wonder how many POINTS they SCORE – – — — per game.? :>)
        Jus’ axin. .

        Good 2 C u woody45. :>) – – –

  • nellcote

    – More than 32 million U.S. television viewers watched President Barack Obama outline his policy towardSyria in a speech aired live on 13 broadcast and cable networks, according to Nielsen ratings data on Wednesday.

    The Tuesday night address attracted a smaller audience than the 56 million who tuned in to see the president announce the killing of Osama bin Laden in May 2011.

    It pulled in more viewers than Obama’s March 2011 speech on U.S. military involvement in Libya, which drew 25.6 million viewers, and his August 2010 speech declaring the end of the U.S. combat mission in Iraq, which was watched by 29.2 million.

    Obama’s acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention in September 2012 attracted about 35.7 million people.

    • conlakappa

      But, um, booga-booga-booga lame duck!

  • nellcote

    Lawmakers on Capitol Hill received a blast e-mail on Wednesday evening that was curt and blunt:

    Good evening,

    The 2013 Congressional Picnic has been cancelled. The president and Mrs. Obama look forward to welcoming members of Congress and their immediate families at the Congressional Holiday Ball in December. More details regarding the Congressional Holiday Ball will follow at a later date.

    Thank you,
    White House Office of Legislative Affairs

    The Congressional picnic, which had been scheduled for a week from Wednesday, is a lavish affair, with glad-handing and backslapping accompanied by live music. It is a moment when even the Louie Gohmerts of the world can put down their swords and fraternize with the enemy.

    • Miranda

      Fuck them…..aint nobody trying to wear the mask with these felonious mofos.

      • nellcote

        sorry dudes, it was gonna be awesome but…sequestration!

    • rikyrah

      from the No Fucks To Give file

    • AxelFoley

      Second term for PBO means he don’t have to be nice to these bitchasses no mo’.

  • nellcote

    Isn’t this what Rev Wright got blasted for?

    Ron Paul posted a message on Facebook on Wednesday calling the September 11 terrorist attacks “blowback for decades of US intervention in the Middle East.”

    Read more:

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia♥ — — Mixed on THIS — BUT –appreciate the FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. :>)

    – – – –Report: Trader Joe’s to drop health coverage for part-time worker

    —- – —Specialty grocery chain Trader Joe’s will no longer provide healthcare coverage to part-time workers and will instead point them toward ObamaCare’s new insurance exchanges, according to a report.

    The company, which provides some of the most generous worker benefits in the industry, told staff last month that those working fewer than 30 hours per week will no longer be eligible for healthcare coverage.

    Trader Joe’s CEO Dan Bane reportedly promised part-time workers a $500 check next year and help understanding their new coverage options under ObamaCare.
    “We believe that with the $500 from Trader Joe’s and the tax credits
    available under the [Affordable Care Act], many of you should be able to obtain health care coverage at very little if any net cost to you,”
    Bane wrote in a staff memo dated Aug. 30.

    THERE IS MORE. . .

    • nellcote

      Mixed indeed. Poor timing if nothing else.

      Need to watch to see if TJ shifts more workers into the under 30hrs catagory.

      • GreenLadyHere

        nellcote. Thank u. – –***fist bump*** —WATCHIN’ — –:>)

  • creolechild

    Rights Restoration Clinic To Help Virginians Take Back Their Vote

    [….] Now there are two ways for Virginians to get their right to
    vote back — an automatic registration process for those with
    “non-violent” convictions, and a five-year application process for those with convictions that qualify as “violent.”[….]

    One of these advocates is Michael Edwards, founder and director of Secure Organization Building Educational Recovery, Inc. (SOBER), a nonprofit Christian fellowship home in Galax, Virginia, for men and women recovering from addiction.

    This Saturday, SOBER is providing a civil rights restoration clinic to give individuals the information they need to begin the re-enfranchisement process. With one-on-one support from legal experts, this free clinic will help people learn:

    *Eligibility for getting their right to vote restored
    *How to register for the new automatic process
    *Which application forms to complete and how
    *What happens after paperwork is completed

    Read more:

    H/T Advancement Project

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia♥ —-ACA POSITIVITY – –:>) —Annnd —

    JOBS! —JOBS! – –JOBS!

    Employers Actually Plan To Hire More Full-Time Workers As Obamacare Rolls Out

    – – – -<i>A new survey of chief financial officers finds that American companies expect to increase the number of full-time employees by 1.8 percent over the next 12 months as key parts of the Affordable Care Act go into effect, undermining conservative critics who’ve argued that the health care law would hamper business growth and expansion.

    “The expected two percent growth in employment is solid, given the context of long-run shifts away from full-time employees largely becauseof concerns about health care reform and economic uncertainty,” John Graham, Duke Fuqua School of Business finance professor and director of the survey, said. The poll, conducted by Duke University/CFO Magazine, surveyed CFOs at 530 U.S. companies.

    The results echo broader indicators showing that companies are hiring more workers.
    THERE IS MORE – – –Woo! Hoo! —

    —***waves @ —MR. PRESIDENT*** :>) – –

  • creolechild

    Assume Bill Dead: How A Conservative, Bush-Appointed Judge Just Made A Fool Out Of Chuck Grassley

    [….] The United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit is the second most powerful court in the country, and it is currently a bastion of conservative skepticism to environmental laws, workplace protections and similar laws.[….] Grassley’s proposal would not just eliminate seats from the DC Circuit, it would add one seat each to the Second and Eleventh.[….]

    Judge Tymkovich, however, was at the Senate in his capacity as chair of the federal judicial committee that evaluates which federal courts are truly in need of additional judgeships — i.e. which courts are overworked and which courts are underworked. Tymkovich’s committee did not recommend eliminating a single seat — much less three — from the DC Circuit.[….] It did recommend adding two federal appellate seats, but its recommendation was that these seats should be added to the Sixth and Ninth Circuits.

    Read more:

    H/T Ian Millhiser

  • creolechild

    Republicans, so it looks like you’re still trying to dismantle Obamacare right? Well…please proceed…and btw…good luck with that come election time.

    Washington State Is Getting Flooded With Hundreds Of Phone Calls About Signing Up For Obamacare

    [….] On Tuesday, Washington officials opened the new call center
    for its state-level marketplace, which will allow residents to dial in
    and ask questions about their options for coverage under Obamacare. The CEO of Washington’s new insurance marketplace, Richard Onizuka, said the first call came in even before the call center officially opened to the public that day.

    And it didn’t slow down from there. There were about 100 calls in the first hour alone. In total, about 60 customer services representatives fielded 900 calls about Obamacare on Tuesday, most of them focused on eligibility and enrollment for the health law’s new insurance plans. They got another 650 calls on Wednesday.[….]

    Read more:

    H/T Tara Culp-Ressler

  • lamh36

    Hmmm. Putin has an Op-Ed in NYT. Wow!

    @DouthatNYT 6m

    I don’t care if it’s only one op-ed, he’s “my colleague Vladimir” from here on out.

    A Plea for Caution From Russia


    Hmm, Maybe we will have a primetime address from President Putin from the East Room as well.

    • nellcote

      shocked that the NYT published this. I know I shouldn’t be but WTF?

    • Miranda


      • crazycanuck

        Waiting with baited breath for Assad`s op ed

        • Miranda

          Hell at this point I’m expecting Kim Jung Un to write an op-ed on why the U.S. should follow the healthy eating habits of North Korea.

          • gn

            Too bad Jeffrey Dahmer’s dead—could have written an op-ed about the environmental sustainability of cannibalism and persecution by law enforcement when he only raped and ate a few n***ers, what’s the big deal. Maybe NYT could conduct a seance for his “bold” “thought-provoking” op-ed.

          • Miranda

            Up is now down, stop now means go. Everything is now ass backwards because a black man dared to ascend to the highest political office in the world.

          • nellcote

            Has the NYT published an op-ed by Rodman yet?

        • nellcote

          Assad got his Charlie Rose interview.

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia♥ — – –FOCUS on –OUR BELOVED FIRST LADY♥ – —

    — —Michelle Obama makes 9/11 visit to Virginia USO center– —

    – — –Michelle Obama drew a pair of construction paper hands for a project with military children during a 9/11 visit to a USO center at the Army’s Fort Belvoir.

    The first lady said she wanted to highlight the organization’s work on behalf of wounded service members and their families.

    The USO Warrior and Family Center opened in February at the Army
    installation in Virginia, just south of Washington. The USO says it’s
    the largest ever to support wounded troops, their families and others by providing relaxation, home-cooked meals, kids’ playrooms and other support.

    Mrs. Obama helped children complete banners decorated with cutouts of handprints for a rock concert Wednesday night. She was joined by actor Gary Sinise, a USO supporter whose “Lt. Dan Band” was performing at the event. Sinise played the character “Lt. Dan” in the movie “Forrest Gump.”

    Mrs. Obama also brought along cookies shaped like the family’s new Portuguese water dog, Sunny.- — [Awwwww♥. . ]

    Afterward, she toured the Intrepid Spirit center, also at Fort
    Belvoir. The facility was dedicated Wednesday and provides outpatient care to service members and veterans with traumatic brain injuries, post-traumatic stress disorder and related conditions.

    She met privately with wounded service members and their families and participated in a round-table discussion with caregivers.
    THERE IS MORE — – –


    – – –BLESS U FIRST LADY♥ —U R —#1♥- – – —

    • qosine

      My girlfriends and I used to go to the USO in DC – to help
      comfort the lonely soldiers, you know. Actually, they were
      really nice guys. Much tribute to the USO. Our First Lady Michelle Obama is just everywhere that matters and with everyone who appreciate her true caring.

      • GreenLadyHere

        Ooohhhhh — qosine♥- –How SPECIAL of U. :>)

        U were a TRUE BLESSING –2 them. :>)

        – — BLESS U♥/YOUR FRIENDS♥ —-

        Annnnd — -so were U. . :>) Thank U 4 sharin’. – :>)

        • qosine

          Honestly, GreenLady, it was fun, and
          the soldiers were really cute:) Don’t
          give us too much credit! True, though
          soldiers need to know we care.

          Thank you for the beautiful flowers,

          • GreenLadyHere

            qosine –CREDIT where CREDIT is due.♥—

            — – My pleasure. :>)–BLESS U’all. :>)

      • Guns3000

        “My girlfriends and I used to go to the USO in DC – to help comfort the lonely soldiers, you know.”

        They had a name for women who did that in Vietnam

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥ — -Another UPDATE: —
    – — –Clock is ticking as Board of Elections tries to settle Democratic primary for mayor — –
    – —-With 99% of
    the precincts reporting, Bill de Blasio had 40.3% of the vote — but
    there are still tens of thousands of ballots to be counted, leaving in
    doubt whether de Blasio will land above the 40% needed to avoid a
    runoff. The board will manually count votes from more than 5,000 voting booths, and also give mailed ballots time to arrive at the its offices.
    — – – –

    –WAITIN’ annnd HOPIN’ – — 2 EXHALE :>) —Shoop! Shoop! :>)

  • Miranda

    So he doesn’t even think HE’S a big enough bigot to fill Jesse Helms shoes?

    Sen. Ted Cruz: ‘We Need A Hundred More Like Jesse Helms’ In Senate

    • jds09

      Maybe GOP polling is telling them there still life in the southern strategy. He’s ringing the dinner bell for all those missing white folks that didn’t go to the polls. You know the phantom white folks that offset the growing numbers of Latinos. smh

    • nellcote

      ‘We Need A Hundred More Like Jesse Helms’

      dead goopers?

      • qosine

        “The Walking Dead”? Fits, doesn’t it?
        Imagine The Pauls, Cruz . . . .

  • rikyrah

    Bill de Blasio’s primary finish a win for blacks, progressives and New York
    by Joy-Ann Reid | September 11, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Call it “afro-mentum.” Call it the dawning of the Age of Aquarius. Either way, Bill de Blasio’s sweeping victory in the New York Democratic primary for mayor is a hint of change progressives can believe in.

    De Blasio won every age group, religious faction and income group, both men and women, and every borough, to take just over 40 percent of the vote, technically enough to avoid a run-off, though second place finisher Bill Thompson is not done fighting yet.

    He won among women and gay voters, despite the presence of a gay, female contender, Christine Quinn, the city council leader, who was seen as too close to Bloomberg — and in every borough, and every pocket of the city with the exception of some enclaves of the very rich like the Upper East Side and Upper West Side, which sided with Quinn (though she did lose Chelsea, one of the city’s oldest and wealthiest neighborhoods). He tied Bill Thompson, the only African-American in the race, overall at 42 percent of the vote, by winning black women 47 percent to 37 percent, and losing among black men 49 percent to 36 percent. And he won Hispanic men and women, white women with 36 percent, and 46 percent of white men. For Democratic primary voters, at least, de Blasio was the ultimate uniter.

    And he ran an unabashedly progressive campaign, vowing to raise taxes on the rich, end the emphasis on “stop-and-frisk” policing, stopping a string of community hospital closures and working to make New York housing more affordable for ordinary people — an anathema to a city overtaken by mass gentrification over the last 20 years. For that, he was rewarded with a commanding 50 percent of the vote of very liberal voters, and 34 percent of those describing themselves as “somewhat liberal.” He lost moderate voters to Thompson by 3 points.

    More importantly, de Blasio’s independence, and the inability of the big city papers, his well-funded rivals and their institutional backers, or the Michael Bloomberg media and cash machine to stop or even slow his late and sudden rise, signals a potential end to a period in the Big Apple’s history dominated by two pugnacious mayors who put the city squarely in the service of the rich, and who cast all of the blame for the city’s ills on squeegee men and black teenagers. Or to put it in Bloombergian terms, it’s the rich people who pay the bills, people, so all you 47 percenters bow down and say thank you.

    • goldenstar

      Hell, yeah.

      …Big Apple’s history dominated by two pugnacious mayors who put the city squarely in the service of the rich, and who cast all of the blame for the city’s ills on squeegee men and black teenagers…

    • TyrenM

      The D’ANNihilator dropping science.

    • Guns3000

      Raising more taxes in the city of New York????? You’re already taxed out of your eyeballs already.

  • lamh36



    So, on anniversary of 9/11, NY Times runs Putin op-ed chiding President Obama. Same Putin who jails journalists. #slowclap

    • nellcote

      Must have horserace! Obama v Putin will do.

      • Miranda

        Apparently that’s the ticket these days. SMH….shameful…our media is truly shameful.

  • rikyrah

    Al Sharpton puts Apple in crosshairs, decrying all-white board

    Civil rights activist Al Sharpton suggested in a radio broadcast making the rounds on YouTube that Apple is too white and needs to add some black faces to executive-level positions.

    “[There are] no blacks on the board of Apple,” Mr. Sharpton said Tuesday on conservative blogger Brian Maloney’s “Radio Equalizer” broadcast. “We buying up all this Apple stuff and can’t get a bite.”

    Sharpton, who made the remarks Apple was due to release the latest version of the iPhone, is heard on the broadcast saying: “Ah, now today the iPhone comes out … that is, of course, produced by Apple and Apple is one of those companies — I mean, we do a tremendous amount of business in our community with Apple, yet we’re not on their boards and there is no evidence they do a lot of advertising or a lot of contracting in our community.”

    Mr. Sharpton was speaking to another on the show, Earl Graves Jr., a noted New York businessman whose father founded Black Enterprise magazine. Mr. Graves took over the magazine’s operations from his father in 2006, CBS reported.

    Mr. Graves concurred with Mr. Sharpton: “They have no African-American directors in the company. They do little to no spending in African-American media. They do little to no spending with procurement with African-American firms. … The corporation in the executive rank looks like the Himalayas — the higher you go the whiter it gets.”

    Read more:
    Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

    • TyrenM

      Call em out Al. How does Verizon look?

  • rikyrah

    John Boehner must cut loose the Tea Party

    By Greg Sargent, Published: September 11 at 12:32 pm

    Here’s the read among Congressional Dems on this fall’s fiscal fights. At some point, House GOP leaders will have to pass an important bill with a lot of Democratic support — stiff-arming the Tea Party in the process. GOP leaders are trying to defer that moment for as long as possible, but there’s just no clear way around it.

    Multiple reports this morning tell us House GOP leaders are struggling to round up support among House Republicans for their new strategy for the fall. They are proposing a vote on a measure that would temporarily fund the government at current sequester levels, with another measure attached to it that would defund Obamacare. The Dem-controlled Senate would pass the first but not the second; conservatives would get to vote to defund Obamacare; the House GOP would dodge blame for a shutdown.

    But conservatives are rejecting the approach because, well, it wouldn’t defund Obamacare. And let’s face it, this strategy is rooted in fear. House GOP leaders don’t want to tie Obamacare defunding to a government funding bill because it will pass the House and force a shutdown confrontation that they will lose. But conservatives won’t be happy until they have that confrontation. And as David Drucker reports, this has “frustrated” more sober minded House Republicans who understand that this crusade is reckless, counterproductive and self destructive.

    Right now, it’s unclear whether House Republicans can even pass their latest funding gimmick out of the House, because House Dems won’t support it and House conservatives won’t either because it won’t ultimately defund Obama’s tyrannical law. So House leaders are promising to fight the good fight in the next battle — they will supposedly demand a delay in Obamacare in exchange for a debt limit hike — in hopes of winning support in the first round.

    But here’s the rub: At some point, something will have to pass with a lot of Dems.

    • Guns3000

      How is he going to cut loose someone he can’t control? They’re already plotting to throw him out of the Speaker-ship position.

  • lamh36

    RT @JeffreyGoldberg: I hope President Obama submits a pro-gay marriage op-ed to tomorrow. Not that they’d post it.

    • nellcote

      I’m bemused that all the LGBT emoprogs who insisted that equality was the most important issue ever have been silent on this in their embrace of their new BFF Putin.

      • Miranda

        Heck, maybe GLAAD will give him an award…who knows.

        • crazycanuck

          you say that like it`s a joke, it`will probably happen

  • rikyrah

    Where are Republicans on sentencing reform?

    By Greg Sargent, Published: September 11 at 2:57 pm

    When Eric Holder announced recently that he is pursuing an ambitious package of sentencing reforms, including proposals to reduce “mandatory minimum” sentences, there was a widespread sense it could attract broad bipartisan support. The thinking was that agreement cuts across party lines that our decades-long experiment in mass incarceration has been a huge policy failure.

    Now Dem Congressional aides are asking: Will leading Republicans step forward and support reform? Some bipartisan pairings of senators, like Patrick Leahy and Rand Paul, and Dick Durbin and Mike Lee, have already issued their own calls for action. The administration has already spoken out, which guarantees support among Congressional Dems. Where are leading Republicans?

    I can report a new development on this front. I’m told GOP Senator John Cornyn is working on a separate but related package of prison-reform legislation that could help bring more attention to the overall debate. According to his office, Cornyn is developing proposals designed to reduce recidivism rates and time served in prison. The ideas are not sentencing reform and would not reduce the sentences themselves — as would Holder’s proposals — but instead would give prisoners ways to reduce already-doled-out sentences.

    The policies, which are modeled on similar reforms in Texas, would allow certain types of non-violent prisoners to do various programs — such as recidivism reduction programming, work programs, or other productive activities. Prisoners at low risk of recidivism could trade in the time they do in such programs to convert their remaining time in prison into time in halfway houses or home confinement.

  • Miranda

    It absolutely amazing to see this level of insanity from the media. Stunning really.

  • Miranda

    What?…first Shellie said he had a gun, the police say he didn’t…O’Mara says he definitely did…now some woman who was with him says he had guns in the car…..all these crazy ass mofos need to be in jail


    George Zimmerman told police that he did not threaten anyone with a gun, and police said no gun was found in his possession, though a woman who was with Zimmerman told officers there were guns in his car.,0,5060626.story

    • crazycanuck

      Zimmerman is out of control, I`m telling you this man will kill again.

      • nellcote

        I’m hoping he comes up against someone that stands their ground.

      • Admiral_Komack

        If he kills in Florida, he’ll be acquitted.

  • goldenstar

    Joy Ann is on Last Word reporting on Zimmerman.

  • MsKitty

    Tonight’s thread…I’m lovin’ it

  • lamh36

    I’m done.

    As evidenced by the coverage I’ve seen so far, I see the Left are gonna cling to Putin’s sudden honest broker “turn towards more Democratic views” as a revelation from Liberal/Progressive stand point (let’s ignore the fact that the op-ed to a tee seem to be focus tested to impress the Left).

    I also see the the right will cling to Putin’s “lecturing Obama” on FP as another pyre on the bonfire that is Obama’s “lead-from behind, weakening of America” type of Presidential leadership.

    Seems thanks to Putin a new coalition will be created.


    • nellcote

      let’s ignore the fact that the op-ed to a tee seem to be focus tested to impress the Left

      Snowden got a writing gig?

      • Miranda

        I wouldn’t be shocked if he wasn’t “persuaded” to go on Russian TV and gush over Putin sometime soon.

  • Miranda


    jelani cobb@jelani9
    The problem is that Obama put himself in a position to be lectured by Putin. @Skhassime @BuzzFeedAndrew

    • rikyrah

      kneegrow, please

    • Basically he’s saying that’s what PBO gets for sassing the white man.

    • qosine

      Pres. Obama referred to Putin sitting in that slouched way like
      a school kid, noting they actually had productive discussions.
      Putin seems to be the one jumping up and down, saying “look at me, look at me.” He knows what he’s up against with
      “I Won President Obama.”

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia♥ — –AHA—–The OTHER —WIMMENS —MUST B STOOPID- –LIKE the “WICKED 6” – — –

    ——-‘She wants this to end with a whimper not a bang’: George Zimmerman’s wife faces the cameras after violent showdown with him– –

    – — – – —The news conference was held as MailOnline reported that George Zimmerman has been accused of cheating on his wife a second time since his acquittal for the murder of Trayvon Martin.

    The first woman was his ex-fiancée.
    The second woman, Samantha Scheibe, was by his side on Monday afternoon at the Zimmermans’ marital home when Shellie confronted her husband over his serial infidelity as they split their belongings days after she filed for divorce.

    At the end of her 911 call she can be heard shouting: ‘There’s a woman in there!’ – – -HAH
    THERE IS MORE – – – –

    — –DAT BOY is CRAY! —CRAY!! – –YEAH — -they hadta SEDATE him! – –THEY KNEW!! – – -geesh —

    Annnd the PO- -PO — -STILL trynta PROTECT him!! — –

    C’MON KARMAaaaa!

    — —JUSTICE 4 TRAYVON♥ — annnd OTHERS♥– —

  • GreenLadyHere

    POUFAM♥ – – –WATCHIN– “The Last Word” —Ms JOY-d’ANN[ihilator]:

    TRAIL him: – – –

    — – -☺ Shellie is getting $$$ from his DEFENSE FUND. —
    — –☺She MOVED OUT —on the day that TM was murdered.
    ——-☺The GUN has been MOVIN’ AROUND. – – -O’MARA said there was a gun.
    – – – –☺Again—gz REVEALED in a 911 call. – —Deja vu! —

    — —HOPIN’ he — –GETS —GOT!! THIS time.!! —

    C’MON KARMAaaaaaaa!

    – — –HUSTICE 4 TRAYVON♥ –annnd OTHERS♥ – –

  • rikyrah

    john miller


    The mere fact Putin feels he has to lie
    to Americans shows just how much he realizes Obama means what he says
    and won’t back down.

    8:17 PM – 11 Sep 2013

    • Miranda

      I means no disrespect….just sayin….

      • TyrenM

        The last person (on Earth) you wanna fuck with!

    • Guns3000

      I think it’s gotten to the point where it’s personal with those two.

  • Miranda

    Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans, deputies say
    By Desiree Stennett, Orlando Sentinel
    10:16 p.m. EDT, September 11, 2013

    Controversial Gainesville Pastor Terry Jones, known for his plans to publicly burn copies of the Muslim holy book, was arrested Wednesday with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans, authorities said.

    Jones, 61, was arrested on felony charges after a traffic stop near a pharmacy in Mulberry, a small town in Polk County, just before 5 p.m. He faces charges of unlawfully transporting fuel and openly carrying a firearm.

    Deputies said Jones was riding in a pickup truck that was towing a smoker and trailer filled with kerosene-soaked Qurans. He also had extra bottles of kerosene inside the truck bed.

    more here:,0,4388628.story

    • Guns3000

      It’s almost like he was trying to get pulled over and make the news. This doesn’t smell right.

  • GreenLadyHere


    — –WHAT the heart once had and loved – —it shall never lose” – –

    He had a few — -PRECHA lines. :>) – – –Bless U SIR♥ — –

    – – – - – – –AMEN. – – –

  • TyrenM

    Alright. 5 minutes into Arsenio. Needs work. GLH, he used your man Antoine in a joke. Then used Charles from Cleveland that rescued the 3 girls from Castro.
    Fucking up. I don’t know how long he’ll last. His celebrity friends ain’t gonna save him.

    • GreenLadyHere

      LOL — TyrenM. :>) – — –

      — YA MEAN – – – - – — LOL – — – –

      Howeva – – -Ifff he WENT ALONG a line 2 JOKE about Mr. Charles – — – –I’m NOT feelin’ him. —

      MR CHARLES —is a HERO!. —ax’ those 3 ladies. :>)

      There was a REASON– “WHYCOME” he LOST his show the FIRST time. – – –

      Annnnd – —-He is surely NO MR. PRESIDENT[2nd TIME Around :>)]

      Thank U 4 sharin’. :>) —-Have a good evening. :>)- –

    • Guns3000

      If he brings Farrakhan on again he will last 2 1/2 minutes

    • qosine

      Well, I don’t like him taking shots at Antoine or Charles from
      Cleveland. They both spoke up/acted when it counted.

    • Town

      Arsenio is a joke and I refuse to watch him. Let his show get cancelled. That’s what he would deserve after cooning it up with Donald Trump making birther potshots at Pres. Obama.

      Doesn’t this fool realize that the birthers aren’t calling Obama un-American because of his birth certificate, they’re calling him un-American because he’s black?

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥ —–UPDATE on the RECEIPT:– –

    – – – –Man denies he wrote racial slur on receipt

    — —Following the international attention Toni Christina Jenkins gained after posting a receipt she received with the n-word on it while serving at a Tennessee Red Lobster, the accused patron is stepping forward to deny he wrote the slur.
    —–SNIP- – – –

    Devin Barnes, the young man who signed the receipt, admits he did write “none” on the tip line but that he left the total line blank.

    “He’s just not that type of individual,” Richard Dugger, Barnes’ attorney said. “He doesn’t speak that way.”

    The receipt Jenkins posted had Barnes’ name, signature and part of his card number online.

    “I’ve never had to deal with that before,” Jenkins said, standing by
    her initial report that the slur was there when she got the receipt.

    In a handwritten statement, Barnes wrote: “I do not approve of the use of that type of talk, not now or ever!”

    • Guns3000

      These situations are almost like rape cases now. If there isn’t video evidence people are reluctant to say anything because there are going to be a segment of people that are going to say you’re lying.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY Guns3000. ***BIG HUG** :>)- —
        SADLY – – – -rape cases have been posted on some social media annnd there is STILL CONTROVERSY.- —

        BUT — your point is well taken. :>)

        Good 2 C U Guns3000. :>)

  • qosine

    OK, so I take a quick look at Google News headlines, and I read
    “Putin says American exceptionalism is ‘dangerous’.” Oh yeah?
    How? What kind? The Pres. Obama kind? Or the GWII kind?
    The ads for 2014 just write themselves. Everybody’s on record.

  • qosine

    I’m taking a break from msnbc right now. I’m watching
    Perry Mason. lol George Takei is on the stand right now.

  • TyrenM

    Watching KO on Letterman. “We got lucky.” We’re lucky Kerry floated this balloon and Putin is going for it. I’m done. Good nite all.

    • GreenLadyHere

      TyrenM – – -WHAT SHE —SAID— —–
      — -KO – –STILL jacked UP!! geesh!! — –

      Have a good evenin’ :>)—

    • conlakappa

      Says the guy who was too prima donna for a cable upstart and has had to go back to sports to pay his bills. Next.

  • GreenLadyHere

    — —– —A BLACK HISTORY MOMENT – – –

    – -☺September 11, 1851
    Blacks routed a band of slave catchers attempting on reenslaving escaped slaves in Christiana, Pennsylvania. One white was killed and one wounded.

    — – – – – – – – –In Christiana, Pennsylvania, a group of African Americans and white abolitionists skirmish with a Maryland posse intent on capturing four fugitive slaves hidden in the town. The violence came one year after the second fugitive slave law was passed by Congress, requiring the return of all escaped slaves to their owners in the South. One member of the posse, landowner Edward Gorsuch, was killed and two others wounded during the fight. In the aftermath of the so-called Christiana Riot, 37 African Americans and one white man were arrested and charged with treason under the provisions of the Fugitive Slave Law. Most were acquitted.

    In February 1793, Congress passed the first fugitive slave law, requiring all states, including those thatforbade slavery, to forcibly return slaves who had escaped from other states to their original owners. The law stated that “no person held to service of labor in one state, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up on claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due.”

    As U can C – –these “SLAVE REVOLTS” – –R really very interestin’ 2 me. :>) — – –Their BRAVERY is ADMIRABLE. :>)–

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥ – — –Soooo – – -They CHANGED that —EVA-SO-IMPORTANT – RULE!! — -humph!

    — —-Tulsa School Changes its Tune in Regard to Students Sporting Dreadlocks – – –

    – –After getting flamed with criticism, an Oklahoma charter school is updating its dress code after telling Tiana Parker that her dreadlocks violated school policy.
    — — -SNIP – – –

    However, the school’s now displaying a change of heart; the school board voted to change its policy that had banned dreadlocks, afros and other hairstyles.
    The new policy says only that students and parents are responsible for personal hygiene and that administrators have the right to contact parents or guardians regarding such issues. There are no specifications on hair styles.

    School board president Kenneth James said in a statement that it was not the school administration’s intent to harm Tiana or her family and he apologized if any harm did occur.
    THERE IS MORE — – – —

    Seeee —4 me — – that FAUX-pology would hafta B accompanied by some $$$$$$$ — –

    Jus’ sayin’. . . . — BLESS U –Miss Tiana♥ :>) – —

  • GreenLadyHere