November 20, 2017

Wednesday Open Thread: African American Winemakers


We continue our series on African American Winemakers with…



Vision Cellars
Sonoma Valley, California


From “A Vintner’s Vision”, SF Chronicle May 2008:

Spend 10 minutes visiting with Mac McDonald, and within the same breath he’ll likely pontificate on his favorite wine grapes and a recent visit to Harlem. To the (then) 65-year-old winemaker, the color of his Pinot Noir is just as significant as the color of his skin.

Under his Vision Cellars label, McDonald plays in the same league as other top American Pinot Noir producers. But as one of a handful of African American vintners in the country – he estimates the number to be no more than 20 – he’s desperate to bridge the gap between his heritage and a market that’s still overwhelmingly dominated by white consumers. To that end, he’s equally comfortable pouring at a fancy wine dinner as he is speaking to an African American audience in the depths of inner cities, or getting his hands dirty in the vineyard.


While he’s grateful for the recognition he has enjoyed over the years from a primarily upper-class white audience, McDonald still speaks frankly about his frustrations given the lack of customers of color in the industry and marketplace. It’s what led him to start the Association of African American Vintners with Bates and Vance Sharp III of Sharp Cellars.

McDonald also hosts an invite-only annual greens cook-off each year which, he says, is yet another way to get people of color into wine. This year will be the eighth annual cook-off, where he’ll have guests bring the greens and other dishes to pair with wine.

“You’ve got to draw folks in somehow,” he explains.

McDonald plays the part of laid-back farmer quite well, but it’s all part of a story that begins in the woods 89 miles south of Dallas; a tale he has retold countless time over the years, both to charm his clientele and to encourage those with similar humble beginnings to get into wine.

“I was born the son of an East Texas moonshiner,” begins McDonald, reciting a line that’s splayed across the back label on most of his wines.

Vision Cellars’ Vineyard
(Photo: Janelle Carter/Kwanzaa Culinarians)

He grabs a stalk of asparagus from the cluttered vegetable garden that his young granddaughters helped him plant, snaps a piece off into his mouth and continues walking.

“When I was 12, there used to be these doctors and lawyers that would go hunting with my grandfather, and afterward they would drink my father’s moonshine.”

After one such hunting trip, a man had a bottle of Burgundy, and was taking heat from the others about drinking “communist wine” in Texas. He opted to share it with McDonald instead.

Leaning against the fenced-in chicken coop, he recalls the moment like it was yesterday. ” ‘Boy,’ he said to me, ‘how would you like to have this wine?’ “

McDonald gladly accepted. He cut out a portion of the cork with his pocket knife, pushed the rest in with a stick, and downed half the bottle (hey, he grew up on corn whiskey, what’s half a bottle of red wine?). “We didn’t have child protective services back then,” he says with a grin.

In McDonald’s eyes, Burgundy beat moonshine by a mile, and from that day on, he had his sights set on becoming a winemaker.

“I was as far out of the wine business as you could get at that point,” he says. But this is a man who doesn’t believe in barriers.

A basketball coach suggested McDonald head out west, and he moved to California soon after high school. He knew not a soul, but initially got a job washing cars in Oakland, and finally wound up at Pacific Gas and Electric Co. During this time, he began taking trips to visit wineries – one of those was Caymus Vineyards in the Napa Valley. “I’ve always felt that if you want to be good, you have to hang out with someone who’s good,” says McDonald. “And I thought Caymus was good.”

To this day, he credits owners Charlie Wagner and his son Chuck with much of his success.

“I started hanging out there, and Charlie Wagner would always talk to me and tell me all about grapegrowing,” he says fondly of the older man, who passed away in 2002. He and Chuck have been friends for many years.

(Photo: Dallas Uncorked)

“The way Mac enters a room today is the reason I was drawn to him then. He’s amiable to say the least,” says Chuck. “He can go into the room a stranger and leave with everyone thinking positively about him.”

It’s this personality that wins him an audience with wine aficionados across the country. He spends countless hours marketing himself, and his wine, to a wide swath of wine drinkers.

It usually just takes one meeting with McDonald to fall under his spell, but in a sense, he had more than three decades to hone his craft. While working at PG&E, he dabbled in wine for 33 years.

At PG&E, McDonald wore many hats, including line crew training, dealing with overhead line equipment and running the operating centers. “It was a great job, it’s just that I always wanted to do this,” says McDonald Winemaking was more of a hobby. He had some of his own equipment and would play around making small amounts in his garage. The Wagners ultimately convinced McDonald that he could really be in the wine business.

“I’m not sure why they put it into these words, but they said, ‘You’d be good for the wine business.’ They thought I would be really good at this. And I said, ‘I don’t have the money.’ And they said. ‘We’ll help you.’ They’ve been assisting me ever since.”

His first bottling was in 1997, and today, Vision Cellars wines are still made at Caymus Vineyards. Currently, he’s making about 2,000 cases a year.

Under his label, McDonald experiments with a few light and sweeter wines, like a Sauvignon Blanc-Pinot Gris blend, a rosé blend and a Santa Lucia Highlands Riesling.



Riverside International Wine Competition

Silver – 2006 Pinot Noir Sonoma County, 2006 Pinot Noir Santa Lucia Highlands
San Francisco Chronicle Wine Competition
Silver – 2008 Pinot Noir Chileno Valley Marin County, 2008 Pinot Noir Garys’ Vineyard Santa Lucia Highlands
San Francisco Chronicle Wine Competition
Gold – 2007 Pinot Noir Rosella’s Vineyard Santa Lucia Highlands
Silver – 2008 Pinot Noir Las Alturas Vineyard Santa Lucia Highlands
Houston Rodeo International Wine Competition
Double Gold – 2008 Pinot Noir Gary’s Vineyard Santa Lucia Highlands
Bronze – 2008 Pinot Noir Chileno Valley Marin County
American Fine Wine Competion
Silver –  2008 Pinot Noir Rosella’s Vineyard Santa Lucia Highlands
San Francisco Chronicle Wine Competition
Double Gold – 2010 Rose of Pinot Noir Ms. Lil’s Vineyard Russian River Valley
Gold – 2008 Pinot Noir Rosella’s Vineyard Santa Lucia Highlands
Silver – 2009 Pinot Noir Garys’ Vineyard Santa Lucia Highlands, 2009 Pinot Noir Las Alturas Vineyard Santa Lucia Highlands

Check out Vision Cellars for more information.

  • gc

    Like the rest of the world, I am scattered now. BUT – I need to take the time to tell you how impressed I am at the various series here. I was woefully ingnorant of much of it. 🙁

  • rikyrah

    Good Morning, Everyone 🙂

  • rikyrah

    Rachel Maddow explains what may really be behind the Republican Senators’ objections to Ambassador Susan Rice as a possible Secretary of State; John Kerry’s Senate seat, and the special election that would be held should he be nominated instead of Rice. NBC Chief Foreign Affairs Correspondent Andrea Mitchell weigh is.

    • goldenstar

      Last Word also did a segment on this last night.

      The 3 are the creepiest….

    • nellcote

      But if Kerry is nominated for DoD isn’t it the same situation? I’m more persuaded that it’s just revenge for past grievences.
      Grahm bringing up the Bolton nomination and today Collins bringing up the Kenyan embassy bombing in 1998 as well as similar language to criticism of Condi Rice pre-9/11 just sounds like they’re flailing around and going down their checklist of past complaints. McCain constantly trying to compare it to Watergate or IranContra just makes it not about Susan Rice and instead a bizarre review of gooper history.

  • rikyrah

    Dull, and Hypothetical

    By mistermix November 28th, 2012

    I’ve been trying to ignore Kevin Drum’s recent posts on Social Security, because I find a lot of his blog useful and informative, and as readers here know, it’s my nature to accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative, but come on, Kevin, no we don’t fucking need to have a Democratic compromise deal on Social Security. And when Dick Durbin says that we should have a bi-partisan commission, he’s not agreeing with you, he’s trying to kill any hope for a deal.

    I’m trying to think of the right metaphor for the Republican Party during their current time of crisis. One of them is a situation where dad (or mom) has been hitting the Jack pretty hard, has the kids locked in the back bedroom and is walking around waving a shotgun. Talking about Social Security is like a hostage negotiator walking into that house and starting a discussion about what color to re-paint the kitchen. It’s just a distraction, one that the insane/drunk person would love to spend hours on, but will lead to no fruitful outcome.

    Putting Social Security, or any other popular social program, on the table for some almost certainly stupid and short-sighted “adjustments” (i.e., benefit cuts) is bad policy, dumb politics and ineffective salve for the Republican wound. What’s really going on here is that those poor bastards are going to have to give up their most cherished fantasy, which is that low tax rates lead to cutting the deficit and growing the economy. They’ve been pulling that one out of the shoebox under the bed and wanking to it since Saint Ronnie was in office, so throwing it in the dumpster is really going to hurt. Because they’re feeling tremendous psychic pain at the prospect of throwing out their cum-stained relic, they want Democrats to endure a similar sacrifice. Even if we did, and we shouldn’t, Atrios is right: Republicans would be back for more the next day. The problem is tax rates for the wealthy are too low, the solution is to raise them, and any other discussion is a distraction.

  • rikyrah

    Jordan Davis: Another Unarmed Young Black Male Gunned Down

    By Imani Gandy (ABL) November 28th, 2012

    Another senseless shooting death of a young unarmed black man in Florida:

    Michael Dunn, of Satellite Beach, Florida, was in Jacksonville this past weekend for his son’s wedding.

    Jordan Davis, 17, and some other teens were sitting in a SUV in a parking lot when Dunn parked next to them and asked the youths to turn down their music.

    Jordan Davis and Dunn argued over the music, then Dunn, who is a gun collector, pulled a gun and shot eight or nine times, hitting Jordan twice, reports the Orlando Sentinel.

    Jordan Davis’ father Ron Davis said his unarmed son died in the arms of a friend in the SUV.

    Dunn and his girlfriend took off, but witnesses wrote down their license plate number, according to the police.

    The couple was staying in a Jacksonville hotel when they heard a news report Saturday morning about the shooting, so they drove home to Satellite Beach, Florida.

    Dunn was arrested at his home on Saturday and charged with murder and attempted murder. He is being held without bail.

  • rikyrah

    McCain descends further into incoherence
    By Steve Benen
    Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:00 AM EST.

    At this point, when it comes to the political controversy surrounding the Benghazi attack, I’m no longer know what Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is complaining about. He’s raised questions, which have been answered. He’s raised theories, which have been debunked. He’s smeared Susan Rice, but he knows her only crime is sharing credible intelligence on a Sunday show.

    And yesterday, the Republican senator’s descent into incoherence reached new depths.

    For those who can’t watch clips online, McCain appeared on Fox News to raise a series of strange complaints, and roll out a truly bizarre new analogy.


    But comparing this to the raid on bin Laden’s compound is a special kind of dumb. I realize national security and foreign policy is an issue McCain struggles with, but this isn’t complicated: the bin Laden raid was our idea. It was our mission. We planned it and we executed it. We knew the details “within hours” because, unlike the terrorists’ attack on Benghazi, the raid in Abbottabad was carried out by our guys, not their guys.

    • jds09

      McCain’s brand of crazy is becoming disturbing. It’s a combo of an unreal expectation (we should have known EVERYTHING immediately) and calmly delivered gibberish.

      On another note, Ambassador Rice can rock a pantsuit. We might have another major style icon on the horizon

    • Daltex82

      Umm Cindy, Megan now would be a great time to stage an INTERVENTION!

  • rikyrah

    GOP fiscal plans sharply at odds with public opinion
    By Steve Benen
    Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:42 AM EST.

    As fiscal talks continue in Washington, Republicans are already facing several disadvantages. Not only is President Obama holding a stronger hand — with looming tax hikes, he clearly has more leverage — polls show the American mainstream more likely to blame the GOP if talks fail.

    But for Republicans, it gets worse. They have fairly specific policy goals in mind, but haven’t persuaded the public at all. Consider the results of the new ABC News/Washington Post poll, which I turned into a chart

    Republicans are fighting tooth and nail to prevent higher tax rates on income above $250,000, but a clear majority of Americans support the idea. Republicans are pushing limits on tax deductions, and in this case, a plurality of Americans opposes the measure.

    And on Medicare, which GOP policymakers are eager to cut, an overwhelming majority of Americans oppose raising the eligibility age — an idea Republicans have repeatedly floated.

    In other words, in the fiscal fight, the American mainstream disagrees with congressional Republicans on everything.

    Wait, it gets worse.

  • rikyrah

    Larry O on Grover Norquist getting dumped by the GOP.

  • rikyrah

    Open Thread: Erick Erickson for Senate (Primary)!

    By Anne Laurie November 27th, 2012

    Via commentor Martin, Politico reports that the Voice of the GOP Gated Community is very disappointed by his so-called ‘elected representative’ for talking about going off Grover Norquist’s reservation:

    In a 900-word indictment of Sen. Saxby Chambliss, RedState editor and CNN contributor Erick Erickson described the Georgia Republican Tuesday as “waffling around like a dog off its leash for the first time.”…

    The RedState post, which laid out the conservative case in full against Chambliss, read a lot like a campaign manifesto, which maybe it was: Erickson said Tuesday evening on his radio show he’d been approached “by serious people” to consider a primary challenge and is giving it “prayerful consideration.”

    An Erickson primary challenge would certainly make for great political theater. He’s won elected office before—he served one term on the Macon City Council—and could complicate Chambliss’s re-election bid. But as a leading conservative blogger, radio talk show host and frequent cable television presence, Erickson’s also got a long trail of writing and video that might not be so helpful in a statewide campaign…

    Murphy the Trickster God does not love me enough to make this travesty happen

    • conlakappa

      It won’t happen. Like all BSers with shady connections/backers, Son of Eric would have to disclose some financials.

    • Worldwatcher7

      Perhaps it’s childish to go here, but I think Erickson is too funny-looking to be elected anywhere.

  • rikyrah

    November 27, 2012

    With baited breath

    As I was saying …

    … so says Ed Kilgore and others:

    The remarkable ability of conservatives to drag American politics to the Right by taking extremist positions and then offering to “compromise” by accepting policies deemed conservative the week before last is hardly a new thing…. But the MSM keeps taking the bait, which is why we now have Lindsay Graham and Saxby Chambliss being lionized for making fake concessions to stop America from plunging over a fake “fiscal cliff,” asking only the small concession that the Bush tax cuts, the principal cause of current long-term public debt, be extended forever, and oh, by the way, could we also cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid benefits?

    Republicans must be beside themselves with wonder at their own dazzling bullshit, but particularly at how the media just keep buying it

  • GreenLadyHere

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    – – – –THANK U 4 an INFORMATIVE annnd INSPIRING SERIES – –Sepia. :>) – – -B BLESSED. :>)

  • goldenstar

    Costco is one of the largest wine purveyors in the country. I wonder if any of these featured winemakers’ products are carried there….

    • From what I’ve read, very few African American wines are sold in mainstream stores, so your best bet is to order them via their websites.

    • conlakappa

      Call the Costco guy and ask him! He picks up the phone there some times.

    • Worldwatcher7

      Costco is very responsive to customer requests. We could start a campaign to get them to stock one of this week’s featured vintners.

      • That’s a great idea!

  • rikyrah

    November 27, 2012 3:37 PM
    The Very Last Ditch

    By Ed Kilgore

    Perhaps it’s a testament to the size and breadth of Barack Obama’s victory on November 6, or maybe it’s because so many conservatives were stunned by MItt Romney’s failure to win by a landslide, but the acceptance of the president’s re-election by U.S. conservatives has been surprisingly widespread. So far almost no one has charged Obama “stole” the election through voter fraud, and conservatives are already looking forward to 2014.

    Ah, but in some of the more exotic precincts of the Tea Folk, post-election resistance has been hardier, as evidenced by this report from Idaho by Betsy Russell:

    A state senator from north-central Idaho is touting a scheme that’s been circulating on tea party blogs, calling for states that supported Mitt Romney to refuse to participate in the Electoral College in a move backers believe would change the election result.

    Sen. Sheryl Nuxoll, R-Cottonwood, sent an article out on Twitter headed, “A ‘last chance’ to have Mitt Romney as President in January (it’s still not too late)….

    Turns out Nuxoll received her inspiration from an article by our old buddy Judson Phillips, who staged the wacky National Tea Party Convention in 2010 that gave Sarah Palin a nationally televised speech opportunity.

    • conlakappa

      Hopefully they won’t read about this and direct Mittens to just occupy the White House. The President proves again that he’s got far more grace and class than his critics, or supporters for that matter [I’m counting myself in that number] have: he’s having lunch with Mittens tomorrow.–politics.html

      • jds09

        Mittens won’t be able to keep his mouth shut about this meeting. He’s gonna mess this up too.

      • nellcote

        Rmoney will come out “troubled” and with more questions.

  • rikyrah

    November 28, 2012 9:23 AM“
    Entitlement Reform” and Health Care Spending

    By Ed Kilgore

    To hear most conservatives, Democrats are resisting “entitlement reform” as part of a fiscal “fix” for some combination of three reasons: (1) they fear the wrath of “the left” or “the base,” their counterpart to the folks on the Right that will go crazy if tax rates go up; (2) they are mired in the policies of the past, having for too long relied on expanded entitlement spending as bait for voters; and (3) they ultimately hope to make entitlements even larger as part of a plan to transform America into a European-style socialist state.

    Interestingly enough, most of these assessments ignore what liberals are actually saying about the “entitlement reforms” conservatives keep proposing, at least with respect to the big targets of Medicare, Medicaid, and now Obamacare: they would move in exactly the wrong direction from steps needed to hold down the long-term costs of these programs, aside from the terrible effect they would have on beneficiaries. TNR”s Jon Cohen sums it up:

    Contrary to what conservatives say and even many centrists seem to believe, the high cost of Medicare and Medicaid isn’t a by-product of government inefficiency. On the contrary, Medicare historically has held down costs as well as, if not better than, private insurance on a per capita basis. That’s thanks, in part, to the administrative advantages of a centralized government program and Medicare’s enormous power to set prices. Medicaid is cheaper still, to the point where, honestly, it’s underfunded. The programs keep getting more expensive, relative to inflation, because medical care keeps getting more expensive—and, in the case of Medicare, because of the increase in the number of people coming on the program. That’s due to a variety of factors: paying too much for services and to the people who provide them; delivering a lot of treatments that are unnecessary, unhelpful, or even harmful; focusing too much on acute treatment when we should be focusing on preventative care and other ways of keeping people healthy

  • rikyrah

    November 27, 2012 11:30 AM

    White Identity Politics

    By Ed Kilgore

    Of all the conservative raps in circulation, the one I have the most trouble with personally is the anti-anti-racism meme: the idea that white people are being persecuted for the color of their skin by a dominant coalition of minorities and honky quislings. And invariably, the proof of that proposition is that those crying “racism” are themselves race-conscious, which makes them guilty of the original sin.

    In his latest column, the Wall Street Journal’s James Taranto ups the ante a bit, warning “race-card” wielding Democrats that they are being so bigoted towards white people that they may soon encourage the rise of a White Power movement:

    This seems likely to weaken the taboo against white identity politics. Whites who are not old enough to remember the pre-civil-rights era—Rep. Duncan, for instance, was born in 1966—have every reason to feel aggrieved by being targeted in this way.

    The “Rep. Duncan” in question is Rep. Jeff Duncan of South Carolina, who authored a letter to the president denouncing Susan Rice, which was criticized by the Washington Post. The Post in passing noted that the letter was heavily subscribed to by white males from the former Confederacy, which is what sent Taranto off on his anti-anti-racism tangent.

    So poor Jeff Duncan is a victim of bigotry because he’s too young to have personally stood in the door of a schoolhouse trying to block desegregation, and probably too young to have shouted racial epithets in public and gotten away with it. According to Taranto, this man who represents a South Carolina tradition of entrenched and militant white conservative power that is one of America’s most distinctive and universally understood and historically significant (it did, after all, touch off a bit of a war once upon a time) phenomena should feel “aggrieved” for being suspected of anything other than pure motives in singling out an African-American diplomat for a rare House letter to the president on a potential cabinet nomination

    • conlakappa



  • GreenLadyHere

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    —- -WE GOT WORK 2 DO! :>) – —
    – – –The president will continue his push for an extension of middle-class tax cuts with remarks at a White House event attended by “middle class Americans who would see their taxes go up if Congress fails to act,” the White House said in a statement. In the afternoon he will meet with more than a dozen CEOs to discuss “the actions we need to take to keep our economy growing and find a balanced approach to reduce our deficit.”

    – – – – –ENJOY YOUR — ENERGY DRANK!! :>) – –

    B BLESSED 2-DAY :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia – – —WE SUPPORT OUR BELOVED – –DR. SUSAN RICE – –who is EMINENTLY QUALIFIED – – -:>) – –

    – —Susan Rice’s career

    – – – –Photos from the life and career of the American ambassador to the United Nations. :>) —ENJOY. :>) WE R PROUD of U. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia – – – -Woo! Hoo! – – -Ms. NANCY — weighs in- — –

    – – –Pelosi makes case she can strike deal in talks — –

    —— Seeking a larger role at the negotiating table, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has publicly expressed optimism on how she and other congressional leaders can strike a deal on taxes and spending.

    Pelosi, regarded as one of the most partisan Democrats in Congress, has adopted a more pragmatic tone since the election.

    After a meeting of congressional leaders at the White House, Pelosi stressed the need for a bipartisan agreement before Christmas, adding, “We understand our responsibility there. We understand that it has to be about cuts, it has to be about revenue, it has to be about growth.”

    Pelosi knows the art of making a deal, having ironed out agreements with the Democratic-led Senate and the White House on the stimulus and healthcare reform during the last Congress. She also agreed to occasional deals with former President George W. Bush in 2007 and 2008.

    Negotiating fair agreements requires a certain amount of political jockeying. And the California Democrat is marking her turf by defending entitlement benefits — and attacking the tax breaks for the wealthy — that represent the highest hurdles to a bipartisan agreement.
    THERE IS MORE. – —

    – – –GR8 SUPPORT —4 — MR. PRESIDENT!! – -:>) — –

    • TyrenM

      Go Nancy Smash! Take no shorts!

      • GreenLadyHere

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        Good 2 C U- TyrenM. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia — – -HAH! – -NO WONDER – -Wal-Mart was – -CALLED OUT — -by the workers! – – –

    – – –
    WalMart earns record profits while supporting Republicans who want to slash their employees’ food stamps
    – —

    – – —Businesses succeed or fail based on providing a quality product consumers demand, but they also depend on delivering good service and it is why courteous and proficient employees are as important an asset as product line. In the service industry, employees are a company’s greatest asset and it is why business owners are wise to take care of their workers and provide incentives for them to give customers an experience that encourages return business. Large retailers have an advantage over small businesses because volume buying allows them to reduce prices and still make a profit, but without friendly and courteous service, many customers will pay more to be treated well. In a different era in America, employees were treated with deference according to their worth to the business, and although employee salaries and benefits were a major expense, their value was instrumental to success.

    – —Every business seeks to keep payroll costs to a minimum, and any business would jump at the opportunity for government to subsidize their employee’s salaries, but when a giant profitable corporation uses taxpayer dollars to supplement their payrolls, voters should be outraged. WalMart posted profits of $15.4 billion in 2011, and it enriched 6 WalMart heirs and heiresses whose combined worth is greater than the bottom 41% of American families (48.8 million households). Part of WalMart’s profits come from paying employees below poverty level wages, and to keep WalMart associates from going hungry and falling ill, taxpayers provided food stamps and Medicaid to make up the difference.

    – –[Sorry. Gotta “bounce. MISSIN’ U — CARRYIN’ U – -IN MY♥. :>)]

  • Miranda


    The EPA said the suspension is due to BP’s “lack of business integrity” after the Deepwater Horizon oil rig explosion and oil spill.

    WASHINGTON — The Obama administration put a temporary stop to new federal contracts with British oil company BP on Wednesday, citing the company’s “lack of business integrity” and criminal proceedings stemming from the Deepwater Horizon disaster in 2010.

    The action by the Environmental Protection Administration won’t affect current contracts, but prevents BP and its affiliates from new government contracts “until the company can provide sufficient evidence to EPA demonstrating that it meets federal business standards,” the agency said.

    “EPA is taking this action due to BP’s lack of business integrity as demonstrated by the company’s conduct with regard to the Deepwater Horizon blowout, explosion, oil spill, and response,” the agency said in a statement.

    more here

    • Alma98

      I’d like to see this mentioned on the networks, I won’t be holding my breath though. I wonder if the emo’s will even mention this, nah it doesn’t serve them well. lol

    • Bu..but I thought PBO was in bed with BP and didn’t care about the environment? That’s what Baby Jane Hamsher told me after she cashed her BP affiliate checks.

      • Miranda

        Their bitchassness is legendary at this point. Has there ever been a more whiny stupid bunch?

      • You can tell they didn’t have a clue as to what they just said.

  • Miranda

    Well…..they had to use SUMPTHIN to line the streets, why not this?

    Romney security data became NYC parade confetti

    NEW YORK — Police are investigating how shredded documents revealing confidential information, including details about Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s motorcade, wound up as confetti on a Manhattan sidewalk during the annual Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade.

    Bits of shredded paper from the Nassau County Police Department could still be found on Monday afternoon in the cracks of the sidewalks along Central Park, according to Saul Finkelstein, the eyewitness who first alerted authorities to the problem.

    Thousands of pieces of shredded paper were scattered along the parade route at 65th Street and Central Park West shortly after the parade began on Thursday morning, Finkelstein and his son, Ethan Finkelstein, 18, told Reuters.

    more here

    • nellcote

      Since he lost, I wonder if Rmoney revised his tax returns to take that charitable credit after all.

      • Aquagranny911

        Of course he did or will. The guy is greed personified. If he dropped a nickle on the sidewalk & someone else picked it up, he would probably beat them to death to get it back!

        ETA & OT: But do you still want that fry bread recipe? I keep missing you to ask.

  • Miranda

    The GOP will not know what hit them this second term…its so on.

    White House #My2K Twitter hashtag enters “fiscal cliff” debate

    President Obama is expected to deliver remarks on preserving middle class tax cuts Wednesday in the face of the approaching “fiscal cliff,” but the White House is hoping Americans will chime in, as well, on the micro-blogging service Twitter.

    Mr. Obama is promoting the hashtag #My2K to continue to the conversation about a potential tax increase on the middle class if Bush-era tax cuts are allowed to expire. The keyword #My2K was chosen specifically because, according to the White House, a middle class family of four could see a tax increase of about $2,220.

    more here

    • This is brilliant on so many levels.

  • Romney To Meet With Obama Thursday
    posted Nov 28, 2012 10:08am EST

    WASHINGTON — Defeated Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney will have lunch with President Barack Obama at the White House tomorrow, the administration announced Wednesday.

    The meeting, in the Private Dining Room on the Residence level of the Executive Mansion, will be closed to reporters and photographers, the White House said in a brief statement.


    Hol’ up! Lunch in the PRIVATE dining room on the RESIDENCE LEVEL of the WH? PBO is rubbing his victory all in Mittens’ face!! LOL!!

    • Miranda
    • Kadijo

      I lovve it!

    • Alma98

      I hope this isn’t about a job offer for that jack-ass.

      • Ebogan63

        WH already said no job offer, as if that was gonna happen.

        • Alma98

          Thank you Ebogan. I was remembering every republican and their mama talking about PBO should give Mitt a job after he won. The president is a better person than me.

        • Aquagranny911

          WH job offers to the Robme are just one more ‘pigment’ of the GOP’s warped imagination, imo.

    • Daltex82

      So nice of the President to invite him to the residence he will never live in. I could never be in politics, I’m not nor could I ever be that gracious.

      Hey Mr. President be sure to have him checked for recording devices before he enters your residence, make sure the room is swept for listening devices when he leaves and make sure to count the silver.

      • Town

        That’s not graciousness, that’s grade A SHADE!

        • isonprize

          absolutely, Town, ABSOLUTELY!!

          That’s just one of the reasons why I adore him so very, very much.

    • rikyrah

      hee hee hee.

      hee hee hee

      Yes, Willard, this is the closest you’ll ever get to the White House.

      FUCK your prophecy.


    • MsKitty

      I’m so amused at folks catching the vapors on Twitter (“don’t do it President Obama, it’s gonna backfire” “it’s gonna hurt you with the public” “when Romney leaves he’s gonna tell all and make you look bad”).

      It’s sad when you can’t get out of election mode. Some of these poor souls are so tight that they can’t unclench, even if you gave them an enema with a sandblaster.

      • OK! Imma need for folks to recognize the presidential shade PBO is about to serve Mittens.

    • edp4bho

      While I applaud PBO’s usual graciousness, I have to differ with most here. What a god damned waste of time, IMHO. But, whatever !!

    • I bet you you PBO’s staff tried to talk him out of it. Romney has no class and it would be just like him to meet with the press afterwards to talk smack.

      This is a waste of time but I applaud PBO’s graciousness.

      • isonprize

        oh, but Romney can talk smack all he wants.

        He’ll be talkin’ smack OUTSIDE of the PRIVATE dining room on the RESIDENCE LEVEL of the White House.

        And that’s the last time for a LONG time Romney will see that room… BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Miranda

    That lil troll’s organization is bout as grassroots as the Georgia Dome.

    Grover Norquist’s Budget Is Largely Financed by Just Two Billionaire-Backed Nonprofits

    The disclosures show that only two billionaire-backed groups have provided over 66 percent of Norquist’s funding:

    • The Center to Protect Patients Rights donated $4,189,000 to Americans for Tax Reform in 2010, 34 percent of the group’s budget that year.

    • Crossroads GPS donated $4,000,000 to Americans for Tax Reform in 2010, 32.46 percent of the group’s budget that year.

    The Center to Protect Patients Rights is the foundation used by the billionaire clique led by the Koch brothers to distribute grants to allied groups. In 2010, wealthy moguls like Steve Bechtel of Bechtel Corporation and Steve Schwarzman of the Blackstone Group met behind closed doors to help lend money to these types of efforts.

    more here

    • rikyrah

      ALL THE DIRT is coming out

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia- – – –****SIGH***- -THEY EVIL/VILE annnd- –STOOPID!!! –***shakin’ my head***– – –

    – – –Obama’s Support for Israel’s Iron Dome Gives GOP Fits of Cognitive Dissonance – –

    – — –Nothing says cognitive dissonance more than the reaction of conservative Christians to the Obama administration’s funding of Israel’s vaunted “Iron Dome” defense system.

    The administration of Evangelical Christian George W. Bush had refused to fund the project. The Pentagon was against it, said it would not work, and wanted Israel to adapt what it felt was a better (and workable): the American Vulcan Phalanx system. The Pentagon was still against it when Obama took office but Obama pushed for, and got, Iron Dome.

    Obama was praised by Washington Jewish Week this spring, a point at which the U.S. had already put $205 million into the project and was about to inject $70 million more. The WJW editorial board correctly understood what this support signified:

    – – – -SNIP – — –

    – – -THIS –>Conservative Christians have uniformly attacked President Obama as the most anti-Israel president ever, bent on the destruction of Israel, which is not surprising since, in their view that Obama is a Muslim, not a Christian.– – -GEESH!!!- – –
    THERE IS MORE- — – —DRIVEL!!- – –

  • Alma98

    Good afternoon everyone!

  • Miranda

    So his publicist didn’t wanna try OTHER networks? Well if they only wanted to go on Fox then F’em.

    Publicist confirms it: Fox News banned book critical of George W. Bush

    In his much-discussed mea culpa about the reality-denialism of movement conservatism, Bruce Bartlett made a striking claim: He wrote that he was not allowed on Fox News — where he had previously been a regular guest — to discuss a book he’d just published that was highly critical of George W. Bush.

    I’ve just received confirmation of this episode on the record from Bartlett’s publicist at the time.

    In the article, Bartlett charged that he’s had multiple firsthand experiences of the ways in which Republicans are “closing their eyes to any facts or evidence that conflict with their dogma.” As one of many examples, Bartlett recalled his personal experience of conservative intolerance of criticism of Bush.

    more here

  • Miranda

    Wow…I never saw this clip from 3 wks ago. Van Jones looking at Mary Matalin like “WTF, this hoe crazy.”

    Postelection Meltdown: Mary Matalin vs. Van Jones
    Republicans haven’t taken the re-election of Barack Obama very well.

    • Alma98

      When did Van Jones become a democratic strategist? grifting. lol

    • Same old same old. We didn’t fail. America failed us.

  • Miranda

    SMH……these are some seriously demented jackasses.

    Top Romney Adviser Brags About Losing Poor, Minority Voters To Obama

    Mitt Romney can take some solace in his devastating loss on Nov. 6: at least he won the voters who really count.

    That’s the thesis anyway of top adviser Stuart Stevens, who penned an op-ed in the Washington Post on Wednesday arguing that by winning wealthier and whiter voters, Romney secured the moral victory over Obama.

    “On Nov. 6, Mitt Romney carried the majority of every economic group except those with less than $50,000 a year in household income,” Stevens wrote. “That means he carried the majority of middle-class voters. While John McCain lost white voters under 30 by 10 points, Romney won those voters by seven points, a 17-point shift.”

    According to Stevens, “The Republican Party has problems, but as we go forward, let’s remember that any party that captures the majority of the middle class must be doing something right.” As a result, “Republican ideals — Mitt Romney — carried the day.”

    more here

    • Miranda

      OK, ya really have to read the op-ed by Stuart Stevens to fully digest how foolish the op-ed is….this is some scary stupid.

      • Alma98

        I only got to the second paragraph before my eyes fell outta my head. I tried Miranda I really did, he is just as delusional as Mitt. I will say from the little bit I did read I can see why Mitt thought he was a shoe-in for the presidency. These people were living in a bubble they bought into their own hype. I love him saying Mitt was a Washington outsider, oh realllly!. GOHWTBS!

        • Miranda

          I wonder if he was high when he wrote that.

          • He must’ve been smoking some chronic because that isht had more twists than an Auntie Anne’s cinnamon sugar pretzel.

          • Alma98

            Thanks Sepia now you got me thinking about a almond pretzel with caramel dipping sauce. lol

          • LOL! I loves me some Auntie Anne’s! Imma have to try the almong with the caramel sauce!

          • Alma98

            It’s good Sepia reallll good, can tell I’m feening now huh lol.

  • rikyrah


    Wonder what kind of temperament you had when office intern Lori Klausutis died (was killed) in your office, Joe Scarborough?

    MSNBC Host Joe Scarborough Says Republicans Should Attack Susan Rice Over Her ‘Temperament’

    On Wednesday morning’s Morning Joe, host Joe Scarborough was doing a fine job of illustrating the dishonesty and capriciousness of the vendetta against Ambassador Susan Rice that’s being carried out by GOP Senate Power Trio John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Kelly Ayotte, but just when it seemed like all was lost, and Republicans might actually get some good advice from Scarborough (which they would ignore anyway), he offered a suggestion. “There are so many ways to go after Susan Rice,” Scarborough said, beginning with “whether she even has the temperament to be Secretary of State.”

    • Alma98

      Morning murderer can have a seat with his thin skinned ass.

    • “Temperment”??? That’s a term used to describe DOGS.

      You know what? I need ya’ll to hold my earrangs…

    • Aquagranny911

      BITE THE BIG CACTUS, Joe, you bumplehead!

      Do we ever ever discuss “temperament” when it comes to Repugnant men? (looking at you, Grumpass McCain!) Damn I am so sick of this caca!

    • BoomerGal

      Say what??? “Temperment??” WTF does that mean?? She’s just as professional as Hillary! But I guess anything goes in D.C.

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia – – – — LOL!- – – – -He gon B BANNED from the — – -GRUMPY—OLD — -POTTY!!! LOL- —

    – — — GOP Senator Praises Susan Rice: Don’t ‘Shoot The Messenger’ On Benghazi Intel– –

    – – –A Republican senator on Wednesday praised U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice during an interview on CNN, saying Rice is a “very smart, very intelligent woman” and that she shouldn’t be held responsible for the misleading information she presented on the Benghazi terror attacks during her Sept. 16 Sunday show appearances.

    Republicans led by Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) had led an all out assault on Rice over the past several weeks, suggesting that she deliberately misled the American people when she said the attack in Benghazi that killed four Americans was sparked by a demonstration against an anti-Islam video (Rice said yesterday that there was no demonstration). Because of the dust-up, McCain called Rice “not very bright” and a group of House Republicans called her “incompetent.”

    But Sen. Johnny Isakson (R-GA) doesn’t believe that to be the case. While Isakson told CNN’s Soledad O’Brien this morning that the administration needs to answer questions about what happened in Benghazi, he added, referring to Rice, “what you don’t want to do is shoot the messenger.” Rice “is a very smart, very intelligent woman. I know this Ms. Rice, I think she’s done a good job as Ambassador to the U.N.,” Isakson said:

    – – –SNIP- —

    – –**eyebrows raised***- – ->While McCain and his allies said the meeting left them more “disturbed” about Rice and Benghazi, Lieberman offered a more favorable opinion. “I felt that she was telling me the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth,” he said. [‘CAUSE he’s on his way – – -OUT!]

  • Miranda

    Republican Outreach: The He-Man Woman Haters Club

    Check out this collage of House Republicans and take note of what they all have in common:

    • Alma98

      They get it they don’t give a damn, they think it’s their god given right as white men to run every damn thing.

  • dannie22

    susan collins can go catch fire. that is all.

    • Alma98

      What happened?

      • Aquagranny911

        She trashed Dr Rice with lies & personal attacks. I sent her a nasty fax, bitch! (no apologies for that word)

        • Alma98

          Thanks AG, you don’t have to apologize if the word fits…

          • MsKitty

            And actually that’s one of the nicer ones I had in mind.

        • rikyrah

          thank you, AG

    • Kadijo

      She became the TOKEN in order to provide coverage for the WMRepub attacking Ambassador Rice.

    • Aquagranny911

      Dang! The goatfiggers are just peeing themselves over the opportunity to trash an accomplished black woman while trying to get Kerry out of the Senate so they can seat that little pissant Scott Brown.

      I’m with you! Don’t you just wish sometimes you had the super powers of that girl in “Fire Starter?”

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia- – -Annnnd – – the – – -WINNERS R- – ———–ALLA THEM!! – –

    – – – —President Obama, Gabby Douglas and Jay-Z up for TIME’s Person of the Year – – –

    – – —TIME magazine has released its shortlist for 2012′s Person of the Year and it looks like President Barack Obama has a chance to reclaim his 2008 title.

    The annual issue, usually published in December or January, features a person, group or idea editors believe have “most affected the news and our lives, for good or ill, and embodied what was important about the year.”

    President Obama, who made the cover in 2008 as the nation’s first African-American president, is among the 38 nominees for the spot.

    “The year 2012 was a challenging one for President Obama,” TIME‘s Adam Sorensen wrote, listing the economy, the attack in Benghazi and a deadlocked Congress as some of his many obstacles.

    “And while many Democrats admitted that he had disappointed in reaching their high expectations from 2012, they turned out for the election in robust numbers all the same,” Sorensen pointed out. “The oceans didn’t recede and the planet didn’t heal, but America was satisfied enough to reward him with four more years in office.”

    President Obama’s chances of being chosen are solid if past covers are any indication. Former presidents George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan were both featured on the cover after their first and second term elections.

    But the president is not without his competition. Also up for the title are Olympic sweetheart Gabby Douglas and hip-hop mogul Jay-Z

    – — NOTICE ANY – SIMILARITIES?—:>)– – –

    — — -BEST WISHES. :>) – —

    • President Obama’s chances of being chosen are solid if past covers are any indication. Former presidents George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan were both featured on the cover after their first and second term elections.

      And watch they won’t give it to him just to be spiteful.

      My response to Jay-Z being nominated:

      • edp4bho

        LOL. Yep.

      • MsKitty

        A gif with Latrice Royale = my afternoon just got 1,000 times better.

        Jesus is a biscuit, let him sop you up.

    • Miranda

      I know he won’t be, but I think Trayvon Martin should be chosen.

  • Aquagranny911
  • ch555x

    This series has me thinking about breweries. I came upon this for those interested in beer…

    • Aquagranny911

      Thanks for the share. I’m going to send that link to my SIL. He would find this interesting.

    • Nice find, CH! Thanks for sharing!

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia – — -WOW&1/2!!- — -He jus’- –KEEPS on – -RUNNIN’> :>)- — –

    – — –Former NFL linebacker Napoleon Harris running for Congress– – –

    – – – –Former NFL linebacker Napoleon Harris is running to replace Jesse Jackson Jr. in Congress.

    Harris was just elected to the Illinois Senate, but he tells the Chicago Sun-Times ( ) that he’s been getting overwhelming support for his plan to run for the 2nd Congressional District seat. Jackson resigned last week.

    Harris starred at Northwestern and was a first-round pick of the Oakland Raiders in 2002. He played seven seasons in the NFL and now owns two pizza franchises in the Chicago area.

    Harris praised Jackson and says he’d like to continue the work he’s done in Congress. The field to replace the 47-year-old Democrat is expected to be a crowded one.

    – – -POU FAM- – -WHATS da WORD?? — -:>) – —

    – – —2012 General Election: Napoleon Harris– –

  • Alma98

    O/T I told my daughter she’s gonna break an ankle in these shoes. They are cute though, when they came I walked around in them and they were surprisingly comfortable. But I don’t don’t think I would last long in them. lol

    • Miranda

      I have a pair of shoes the exact same color, suede and design, but its a regular heel (not a wedge) – but they hurt my feet. LOL

      • Alma98

        LOL! I’m going to try and find some with a lower hell cause they are too cute.

  • isonprize
  • Shawna Thomas ‏@ShawnaNBCNews
    The Pool is reporting that at end of the cabinet meeting photo op, POTUS said “Susan Rice is extraordinary” in response to a press question.

    • Kennymack1971

      Translation : Suck it GOP.

  • creolechild

    Good afternoon POU!

    Republicans Turn Charter School Officials Into the New Robber Barons

    [….] Privatizing, folks, is a Republican codeword for “profit.” Who takes over when the government is not involved? It’s not charities. It’s for-profit entities. The people who will suddenly become middlemen for your tax dollars – and line their pockets and tell you, as with their imaginary trickle-down economics, that it’s all for you. Crooks and Liars reveals what ALEC has in mind for your tax dollars:

    ALEC’s “Education Enterprise Zone Act” creates a voucher program to subsidize private schools with taxpayer money.

    ALEC’s “Education Accountability Act” allows a state to override the elected school board, declare schools “educationally bankrupt,” and divert funds to private schools.

    ALEC’s “Parent Trigger Act” would allow a small group of parents to close public school for current and future students, and turn the school into a charter school or require the state to use taxpayer dollars for vouchers to subsidize private tuition.

    ALEC’s “Charter Schools Act” would allow for the state to grant charters to create and operate schools outside of traditional public schools, while also exempting these charter schools from state laws that apply to public schools.

    ALEC’s “Next Generation Charter Schools Act” allows state taxpayers to subsidize charter schools that compete with public schools, while exempting charter schools from complying with many legal standards and requirements that govern public schools.

    ALEC’s “School Board Freedom to Contract Act” encourages school boards to contract with for-profit corporations for services being provided by schools.[….]

    Read more:

    H/T Hrafnkell Haraldsson

  • creolechild

    Exclusive: Major Unions And Progressive Groups Create Filibuster Reform Coalition

    Major unions, environmental advocates and other progressive groups are reconvening an advocacy coalition to build public support for reforming the Senate filibuster rules and pressure members to follow suit at the beginning of the 113th Congress, TPM has learned.[….]

    The Fix the Senate coalition includes the Alliance for Justice, the Brennan Center for Justice, Common Cause, the Communications Workers of America, the Sierra Club, and the United Auto Workers.[….]

    Read more:

    H/T Brian Beutler

  • creolechild

    Wisconsin Election Clerks Fight Gov. Walker’s Plan To Make Voter Registration More Difficult

    When Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI) proposed repealing a decades-old state law that allows citizens to register on Election Day, he said his motivation was to make the process easier for the state’s municipal election clerks. To Walker’s surprise, one of the first major groups to push back on his proposal is the Wisconsin Municipal Clerks Association.

    In fact, the organization’s election communications chairwoman Diane Hermann-Brown said, eliminating Election Day Registration would actually make their jobs significantly more difficult. The Wisconsin State Journal has more:[….]

    Read more:

    H/T Scott Keyes

  • creolechild

    San Francisco approves micro apartments

    Always wanted to live in an adorable Tiny House except, like, without all that nature around you? Well today is your lucky day, urban dwellers! Following the lead of Vancouver and New York, San Francisco has approved legislation that will change the city building code to allow for “micro-unit apartments” that boast only 150 square feet of living space.[….]

    City Supervisor Scott Wiener had pushed the legislation as an “affordable option” for S.F. residents who don’t want to pay upwards of $2,000 for the average “large” city studio. (Wiener had said previously that he expected the units to rent for $1,200 to $1,700, so it seems “affordable” is in the eye of the beholder.) “Allowing the construction of these units is one tool to alleviate the pressure that is making vacancies scarce and driving rental prices out of the reach of many who wish to live here,” Wiener said in a statement.[….]

    Read more:

    H/T Susie Cagle

    • Why would I want to live in a cedar closet?

      • goldenstar

        i guess it smells good.

      • Admiral_Komack

        …but, on the other hand, Ray Palmer and Henry Pym are very happy.

  • Miranda

    Afternoon thread is up!

  • creolechild

    New Medical Guidelines Say Birth Control Should Be Available Over The Counter

    Women shouldn’t have to go to a doctor for a birth control pill perscription, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists announced on Tuesday. Instead, it believes that oral contraceptive should be available to women over the counter. In a written opinion, the OB/GYN society made the argument that the benefit of easy access to birth control — a decrease in unplanned pregnancies — outweigh the risks of not having a doctor inform a woman of potential side effects.

    The most common side effect of birth control pills is a higher likelihood of blood clots or deep-vein thrombosis, but the risk of such effects are rated “extremely low.” On the other hand, easier access to birth control, particularly a low-cost or cost-free pill, leads to a far lower number of abortions.Many women attest to not taking the pill regularly because of the logistical and planning issues, as well as cost, associated with going to a doctor for a prescription.[….]

    Read more:

    H/T Annie-Rose Strasser

  • creolechild


    Tom Ricks To MSNBC: ‘You’re Just Like Fox, But Not As Good At It’

    [….]Following his much-discussed interview with Fox on Monday — during which he criticized the network’s coverage of the September attack in Benghazi — Ricks was approached by MSNBC for an interview.

    “MSNBC invited me, but I said, ‘You’re just like Fox, but not as good at it,’” Ricks told the Washington Post on Tuesday. “They wrote back and said, ‘Thank you for your candor.’”

    Read more:

    H/T Tom Kludt

    • Aquagranny911

      Dang! I really like this guy!

    • And if any of them want to take it outside Ricks is more than okay with that.

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