February 22, 2017

Wednesday Open Thread: Afro-Russians

HAPPY HUMPDAY PRAG OBOTS!

We continue our look at Afro-Russians

 

ABKHAZIANS

Photo of Afro-Abkhazian family from "Caucasus. Volume I. The peoples of the Caucasus", St. Petersburg., Kovalevsky P. I., 1914 (Photo: Wikipedia)

Photo of Afro-Abkhazian family from “Caucasus. Volume I. The peoples of the Caucasus”, St. Petersburg., Kovalevsky P. I., 1914 (Photo: Wikipedia)

Abkhazians of African descent are a small group in Abkhazia of African descent who used to live mainly in the Abkhazian settlement Adzyubzha at the mouth of the Kodori River and the surrounding villages of Abkhazia (Chlou, Pokvesh, Agdarra, Merkulov, etc.) on the eastern coast of the Black Sea.[1][2]

Origin

Hypotheses

The ethnic origin of the Abkhazians of African descent — and how Africans arrived in Abkhazia — is still a matter of dispute among experts. Historians agree that the settlement of Africans in a number of villages in the village of Adzyubzha in Abkhazia (then part of the Ottoman Empire) is likely to have happened in the 17th century. According to one version, a few hundred slaves were bought and brought by Shervashidze princes (Chachba) to work on the citrus plantations.[3] This case was a unique, and apparently not entirely successful, case of mass import of Africans to the Black Sea coast.

afrorussians_abkhazians2According to another theory, Abkhazians of African descent are the descendants of the Colchians, the inhabitants of the ancient kingdom of Colchis in present-day western Georgia. However, the question of the likelihood of at least some continuity between the ancient Colchians and current Abkhazians of African descent is not known, because there is no available, reliable evidence of the existence of an African population in historic Kolkhi.[citation needed] They may also derive from the Egyptian Copts or Ethiopian Jews.[4] Abkhazian writer Dmitry Gulia in the book “History of Abkhazia” compared the place names of Abkhazia and the corresponding names in Ethiopia and claimed that some of the geographical names are identical: Bagadi – Bagadi, Gunma – Gunma, Tabakur – Dabakur, etc.[5]

In 1927, the Russian writer Maxim Gorky, together with the Abkhaz writer Samson Chanba visited the village of Adzyubzha and met elderly Africans there. Based on his visit and comparison of his observations with the published data, he felt that the Ethiopian version of the origin of the Abkhazians of African descent is true.[6]

Legends

There are a number of folk legends that might be based partly on true events. According to one of them, which is mentioned in the memorandum of Ivan Isakov to Nikita Khrushchev, an Ottoman ship wrecked near the Abkhazian coast during a storm, with slaves who were brought up for sale, and the current Abkhazians of African descent are the descendants of survivors from the ship, who founded the colony in Abkhazia.[3] This legend, however, does not explain how such a ship could have entered the waters of the Black Sea, which is so far from major shipping lanes of the slave trade of that time.

Another legend tells about the dealings of Narts with certain “black faced people” from the Horn of Africa. The legendary Narts are said to have come back to the Caucasus from a long African campaign with hundreds of African escorts, who remained in Abkhazia.[7]

In a third legend, the appearance of Abkhazians of African descent is involved with Peter the Great: he imported many black Africans to Russia, and it is said that those who were unable to acclimate to the northern capital of Russia, Saint Petersburg, were then generously given to the Abkhazian princes.[8] According to the history candidate Igor Burtsev, there could have been a few dozen such “gifts of Peter” to Abkhazian princes.[9]

Perhaps more than one of the several scientific hypotheses and legends has some truth: many of them are not inherently exclusive, but complementary.

History and present

The said memorandum of Ivan Isakov to Khrushchev on the Abkhazians of African descent says, among other things, that the governor of the Caucasus Hilarion Vorontsov-Dashkov, imitating Peter the Great, had his personal convoy of Afro-Adzyubzhi, who accompanied him in Chokha. Prince Alexander of Oldenburg, founder of Gagra, kept in his yard a few representatives from each of the peoples of the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus, including the local blacks.[10]

Nutsa Abash (center), a well known gynecologist from Sukumi, Abkhazia

Nutsa Abash (center), a well known gynecologist from Sukumi, Abkhazia, with her grandchildren

It is known that already in the 19th century, Abkhazians of African descent spoke only in Abkhazian and considered themselves Abkhaz people. Their total number is estimated by different observers in the range of “several families” to “several villages”.[11] They are not religiously homogeneous, either. Apparently in Abkhazia there are or have been in the recent past black Christians, black Muslims, and black Jews.

Abkhazians of African descent engaged in growing citrus, grapes, and corn, working in the coal mines of Tkvarchreli and enterprises of Sukhumi, working in knitting factories, etc. Like many Abkhazian people, Abkhazians of African descent today speak in Russian. Most today are of mixed race, as the Abkhazians of African descent have intermarried with other local ethnic groups. Many left Kodor to settle in other parts of Georgia and in neighboring Russia, as well as other nearby countries.

Abkhazians of African descent presence has also been noted among Abkhaz communities in Turkey.[12]

In popular culture

  • Abkhazians of African descent and their relationships with Abkhazians were featured in prose by Fazil Iskander.

(SOURCE: Wikipedia)

Here’s a three-part series the Afro-American published in February 1973 on the African presence in the Soviet Union:

  • jds09

    Good morning POU Fam! One afternoon away from PragObots and I miss PEEOTUS. It ain’t fair.

    • conlakappa

      Well…

    • rikyrah

      Morning jds

    • nellcote

      not to worry, that stain ain’t going away.

    • Alma98

      LOL Morning jds!

  • aleth

    Morning

    Like i said they will not let their great white dope go down in flames, he has the complexion and gender for protection. they will water it down. the talking point now is its unverified and no denial. Comey along with GOP are compromised and danger to our security.

    YOU have reps calling CNN, buzzfeed parasites and asking press pass revoked. It will be ugly.

    I have no respect for the press as they allowed and covered for this below mediocre man

    • rikyrah

      They will try. They will fail

    • Alma98

      Morning aleth

  • Kennymack1971

    Good morning POU Family. Current mood:
    https://twitter.com/Kennymack1971/status/819158685356347393

    • Miranda

      I still find it hard to believe this happened.

    • rikyrah

      I know

    • Alma98

      Morning Kennymack, I feel you.

  • Kennymack1971
    • jds09

      Bravo!

    • rikyrah

      Yeah

  • Kennymack1971

    He’s going to wish he never tweeted this.
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/819164172781060096

  • isonprize

    So, damn. What does a girl need for an excuse note? LOLOLOL

    Sasha be like “Can I live? Can I just live…”

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/salvadorhernandez/heres-why-sasha-was-absent-during-president-obamas-farewell?utm_term=.salzbGqX6R#.kb1bG1jVd7

    • rikyrah

      Hey isonprize

  • aleth

    is this real life? This is who they elected?

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/819155311793700865

    • aleth

      Need to get “russia said” trending

    • jds09

      DJT is the perfect manifestation of the belief in white supremacy. Complete and utter bullsh*t on every single level. This is white America’s president, there’s no getting around it.

    • MsKitty

      Not gonna lie, I’m enjoying this. Most people would have enough sense to lay low for a little while, but not Sir Ferrethead. I’m looking forward to even more unhinged tweets.

    • rikyrah

      Sigh,….

  • Miranda

    yall…………………..ROFLMAO________________

    Trump’s top planner promises ‘soft sensuality’ at inauguration
    01/10/17 05:39 PM EST

    Donald Trump’s inauguration will feature a “soft sensuality” rather than be a “circus-like celebration,” according to the chairman of the president elect’s planning committee.

    “What we’ve done instead of trying to surround him with what people consider A-listers is we are going to surround him with the soft sensuality of the place,” Tom Barrack, who heads the president-elect’s inaugural committee, told reporters gathered in Trump Tower on Tuesday, according to a pool report.

    “It’s a much more poetic cadence than having a circus-like celebration that’s a coronation,” he added. “That’s the way this president-elect wanted it. I think it will be contributive. It will be beautiful. The cadence of it is going to be, ‘Let me get back to work.’”

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-trump-administration/2017/01/trump-inauguration-sensuality-233436

    • Kennymack1971

      In other words: Nobody on the A list accepted our invites to come so we scaled things back and will play it off like we’re not embarrassed.

      • conlakappa

        There is going to be so many curtains cordoning off sections of the ballroom that it’ll look like a Punch and Judy show. Also too, stop with the attempts to throw shade at the BH Obama II inaugurations–regular folks were there too. Just ask Cornflakes!

      • Admiral_Komack

        Golden Showers…for everyone!

    • jds09

      Lots of Fox News anchorwomen sitting around with camera looking up their skirts. They’re gonna be cold.

    • Town

      Is that like Charmin or Angel Soft?

      • conlakappa

        No. Like the HOTUS photos/videos.

    • nellcote

      urgent pivot!

  • Miranda

    Ya know…..its sad that all of these so-called political analysts and experts simply will come up with any and every excuse when the answer is very simple….racism…….RACISM…all this asking how Trump got away with this, how Trump overcame that….the answer is RACISM. Once the black man played by the rules and WON, the playbook of course was going to be rewritten. Got nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with RACISM.
    ——————–
    How Trump Rewrote the Scandal Playbook
    For decades, certain rules governed how politicians dealt with controversy. Until Trump came up with new rules of his own.
    By RONALD A. KLAIN January 11, 2017

    Time and again during the 2016 campaign—as he faced a dizzying blizzard of attacks, made numerous outrageous statements and navigated countless campaign crises—we heard that Donald Trump was “throwing out the rule book” in how he handled these controversies. It’s true. For decades, some widely accepted rules for handling scandals and missteps had dominated politics; savvy veterans of the Bill Clinton era successfully applied these approaches to the businessworld as well. And Trump blew through them all.

    But the real estate mogul did more than that. He wrote an entirely new playbook for crisis communications.

    more here: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/how-trump-rewrote-the-scandal-playbook-214621

    • conlakappa

      Too true. He couldn’t have come up with the rules without them being complicit. And he didn’t have to even feed them mesquite-lime chicken or doughnuts. He fed them a river of crap and they asked for more cups of it.

      • Admiral_Komack

        …with a golden shower chaser.

    • jds09

      The “great man” school of history in action. The Art of the Deal part 2. But they won’t be able to turn this sow’s ear into a silk purse.

  • Joy

    Morning, everyone!

    • MsKitty

      Morning Joy

    • rikyrah

      Morning Joy

    • Alma98

      Morning Joy!

  • lamh
    • conlakappa

      So we’re in the “What did he know and when did he know it?” [Howard Baker] phase of the cover-up. That Comey was all “we don’t release information during an ongoing investigation” without batting an eyelash was stunning.

    • rikyrah

      PHUCK him sending it to Comey.
      You don’t think that Langley AND MI-6 delivered the same information to him?

      • nellcote

        I was wondering about that. why did McCain have it in the first place?

        • conlakappa

          Was he still on the national security committee? I know he was term-limited out of the chairmanship.

        • Town

          Did McCain send the info to Comey before or after the Hillary Email thing? Because if he sent it to Comey before, he may have thought Comey was not compromised like he ended up being.

  • lamh
    • jds09

      Yep. The issue of access is on the other foot, Kellyanne is in damage control and she needs Seth’s audience. Our MSM is just thirsty for Trump.

    • rikyrah

      Pathetic

  • lamh
    • rikyrah

      Uh huh

    • jds09

      We are living through a really bad televison show. Really bad.

      • Miranda

        Very very very bad.

  • conlakappa

    Why is this a thing?

    https://www.eventbrite.com/e/mlk-weekend-decades-day-party-tickets-29907807056?aff=eac2

    I went to parties this guy organized during the inaugurations. I only stay on the mailing list now to see what gets celebrated. Or how strangely so!

  • lamh
  • conlakappa

    Great article about Hidden FencesFigures being number one at the box office. I love the frame of it: http://www.diversityinc.com/news/hidden-figures-no-1-box-office-surpasses-expectations/

  • nellcote
  • lamh
  • Joy

    Morning, rikyrah!

  • rikyrah

    LOL

  • Kennymack1971

    So let me get this straight: The same media who had no problem treating anything from WikiLeaks and RW news sources as legit when it damaged Clinton is suddenly concerned with verified sources and confirmation of information? That it’s a stretch that the dude who said “grab em by the pussy” wouldn’t be partaking in golden showers?

    Okay MSM…Okay…

    • isonprize

      That is just so nasty. I haven’t read any stories and I don’t plan to. Uggggh. N.A.S.T.Y.

      • Admiral_Komack

        I intend to read the stories; I wonder if Christians for Trump can explain golden showers.

    • jds09

      Up next…..the arrival of eye-witnesses, participants and/or videos. Somebody right now is casting for a porn version of the events and setting up the cameras in Sherman Oaks. It’s about to be on…..

      CIA…we see you.

      • Admiral_Komack

        Who knows…they might find Trump’s “golden” tape.

    • rikyrah

      Uh huh
      Uh huh

    • Admiral_Komack

      Piss-poor journalism.

  • Joy
    • jds09

      George belongs in the Honey Badger Hall of Fame. lol

    • conlakappa

      His Bladder-mir and Golden Girls is funny too!

    • BoomerGal

      I GOT TO USE THIS!! LOL!!!

    • Alma98

      Someone at VSB called him Mr. Pissy. LOL

  • Alma98

    Morning all

    • MsKitty

      Morning Alma

  • edp4bho

    Morning POU. I’ve figured out PBO’s approval ratings……LOL ! Go to any YT video of him, look at number of comments like vs dislike…..likes are at least 75% of total . To hell with the media.

  • nellcote

    LOL
    Schooley ‏@Rschooley 13h13 hours ago

    Obama should just resign tonight and let Biden take it for a week to mess with all that 45 merch Trump is shilling.

  • MonieTalks

    I will be so disappointed if Chelsea Manning has her sentence commuted by President Obama as it is being reported.

    • Town

      Obama should commute her sentence to troll Snowden.

      • MonieTalks

        That’s the reason I don’t want him to. Not to mention that the whole excuse of why Manning leaked the documents is because she was going through a “crisis” regarding her sexuality. And for that, we should be sympathetic. Manning leaks elevated the demon Assange.

        https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/819177951040249856

    • Admiral_Komack

      We’ll see.

  • lamh
  • Miranda

    Whateva Facebook…..*rolls eyes*
    —————-
    Facebook launches ‘Journalism Project’ to fight spread of fake news
    01/11/17 11:04 AM EST

    Facebook launches ‘Journalism Project’ to fight spread of fake news
    Facebook on Wednesday announced the launch of the “Facebook Journalism Project” in an effort to combat the spread of fake news.

    The social media giant said the new project will enable collaborative development of news products, provide new training and tools for journalists, and offer additional methods to “curb news hoaxes” and “promote news literacy.”

    “We will be collaborating with news organizations to develop products, learning from journalists about ways we can be a better partner, and working with publishers and educators on how we can equip people with the knowledge they need to be informed readers in the digital age,” Fidji Simo, the project’s director, said in a statement.

    more here: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/313749-facebook-launches-facebook-journalism-project-to-fight-spread

  • Miranda

    Sounds about right for a Trump cabinet member
    ——————–
    Ex-Wife of Labor Nominee Says He Abused Her
    January 11, 2017

    The ex-wife of President-elect Donald Trump’s nominee to be labor secretary, Andrew Puzder, appeared in disguise on ‘The Oprah Winfrey Show’ as a victim of domestic violence, after having accused him multiple times of physically assaulting her in the 1980s.

    Additionally, a 1988 petition… from the Circuit Court of St. Louis County provides previously unreported details of the alleged abuse: Puzder’s ex-wife, Lisa Fierstein, accused him of having ‘assaulted and battered [her] by striking her violently about the face, chest, back, shoulders, and neck, without provocation or cause,’ and that as a consequence she ‘suffered severe and permanent injuries.’

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/womens-groups-fret-puzder-nomination-233449

    • conlakappa

      So this is the third wife abuser or more info on the second one? Hard to keep up!

    • rikyrah

      Yep.

  • Miranda

    BBC correspondent: Ex-British intelligence officer ‘not the only source’ for Russia’s Trump dossier
    11 JAN 2017 AT 11:02 ET

    The existence of a compromising Russian dossier on President-elect Donald Trump has been confirmed by multiple sources, BBC Washington Correspondent Paul Wood revealed on Wednesday.

    During a BBC 4 radio broadcast on Wednesday, Wood revealed that the former British spy was not the only source claiming to have knowledge that Russia is possession of sex tapes that could embarrass the president-elect.

    “The rumors or the allegations or whatever you want to call them have been circulating for a number of months now,” Wood explained. “I saw the report, compiled by the former British intelligence officer, back in October. He is not, and this is the crucial thing, the only source for this.”

    Wood said that he had been told by a member of the U.S. intelligence community that at least one East European intelligence service was aware “that the Russians had kompromat or compromising material on Mr. Trump.”

    “It’s very, very difficult, of course, to talk to US intelligence people. They’re breaking the law if they talk to you,” the BBC correspondent pointed out. “But I did ask somebody with connections in the CIA to pass a message to them, and I got a message back that there was allegedly more than one tape, not just video, but audio as well, on more than one date, in more than one place, in both Moscow and St. Petersburg.”

    Wood warned that “nobody should believe something just because an intelligence agent says it.”

    He added: “But it is viewed as credible by the CIA, and that’s why it landed on President Obama’s desk last week, on the desk of the congressional leadership, and was given to Mr. Trump as well. And even congressional Republicans are talking about investigations, and Democrats, I know, are talking about impeachment.”
    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/bbc-correspondent-ex-british-intelligence-officer-not-the-only-source-for-russias-trump-dossier/

    • MsKitty

      Best believe the information will be coming out in drips and drops for maximum effect.

      Stock up on your snacks and get comfy.

      • Joy

        *makes grocery list*

        Popcorn, Ferrero Roche, Moscato…

        • jds09

          Red vines.

        • Miranda

          WANGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • jds09

        They had me at ” but AUDIO as well.” LOLOLOL!!!

        • rikyrah

          LOL

    • rikyrah

      You don’t think that the International Spook Community has come to Langley and said…
      “What we have. You can have. ”
      They understand the threat. And, they all understand the danger of Vlad.

  • BoomerGal

    Morning, POU! Hope all are well and blessings to everyone.

    • MsKitty

      Morning BoomerGal

    • Alma98

      Morning BG

      • BoomerGal

        Morning, Alma

    • rikyrah

      Morning BoomerG

      • BoomerGal

        Morning, rikyrah

  • jziglar

    Trump has always been a sick perverted creep. If he wasn’t such a repulsive person then many would simply disregard this story. This is why I laughed when that idiot Tom Brokaw said last night that Trump’s popularity might rise in response to Rachel Maddow pointing out Trump’s historic unpopularity for an incoming president. This guy is already embroiled in business and personal scandals unlike any president-elect. The guy is an asshole so how can he improve his likability. It’s laughable.

    • conlakappa

      Through the normalizing process that we are witnessing. He’s that jerk about whom some acquaintance will say, “I know that a lot of people consider him a creep/jerk but…” No, there is not but when the first clause is there. MSM is trying to make him redeemable because he feeds into their own fantasies about power and who has the right to wear the crown.

  • Alma98
    • Miranda

      ROFLMAO!!!

  • Alma98

    Did any of the RW rags even mention Roy Innis dying?

  • lamh

    Fuq each and every jim bob, carry anne, meemaw, peepaw…complete idiots who voted for #PEEOTUS

    Watching this press conference should make you feel nothing but contempt and pity for dumb as people (majority white) who voted for this dumb ass mofo to be our next President…all cause of what…some misguided, racist bullshit snub against the first Black President…

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-u2elR1FSybo/UEefhGqSB-I/AAAAAAAABJo/NhecHpsVPPg/s1600/Lucille+gif+ugh.gif

    • Miranda

      They don’t care…they will sacrifice their very lives, their children’s lives…all to retain some false sense of supremacy. A good example was Paul Stafford in Hidden Figures…that fool was putting actual lives in danger because he didn’t want to accept Katherine’s intelligence. Didn’t want to let her have all of the information needed to do the job but did he care? He was actually risking the entire space program and the lives of the astronauts and did he care? NOPE. He didn’t give a shit – his racist ass couldn’t see past her skin.

  • BoomerGal

    That’s common for crazy people.

  • Miranda
    • aleth

      I give up. I just give up
      I think we have said it, make believe world here we come

  • lamh

    ‏@ReignOfApril 37s38 seconds ago
    “I have a no conflict situation because I’m the President. So I could actually run my business & the govt at the same time.”

    • rikyrah

      Did he actually say this?

  • Farrod

    GM POU Fam,
    So umm…is there really a chance Trump won’t be sworn in???

    • nellcote

      no but we can dream…

    • Alma98

      Morning Farrod, nah he’s gonna be sworn in. His supporters could see him kill a toddler on tv and still cheer him on.

    • The Shy Lurker

      Yes. Death.

      • Alma98

        LOL

  • aleth

    IF PUTIN LIKES DONALD TRUMP, I CONSIDER THAT AN ASSET
    The end
    But white press– this was an amazing press conference, we move on. The great white dope must not fail. Upholding mediocrity till the end. Trash. He will get away with it all

  • Kennymack1971

    I’m so pissed off and disgusted right now. Thinking about the class and dignity of the Obamas and White folks chose to replace that with this buffoon rambling at this press conference?

    Fuck you Mayo Nation.

  • Alma98

    I need white folks to stop saying poc and women will lead once again.
    If that was true why did white women overwhelmingly vote for drumpf?
    And other white folks thought it was a game and voted for Bernie, Jill and Gary, so just stfu please!

  • lamh

    This is gonna be my constant answer anytime a Trump supporters says anything about any fuqn thing…

    http://2.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/57/38/e0f1d991a967ae29da471117910d11ef.gif

    • BoomerGal

      LOL!!!

  • TyrenM

    Franken tearing into Cruz about badgering witnesses!

  • lamh

    Get used to it…this is gonna be me for the next 4 years when discussing politics with Republican or any idiot talking about “give Trump a chance”

    http://p.fod4.com/p/media/877ebc4f55/vBdBqRsCRuqX2CJdjrEO_Toddler%20Middle%20Finger.gif

  • Miranda
  • lamh

    @moneyries
    CNN’s @JDiamond1, who is at the presser in Trump Tower, reports that Trump has aides in the wings applauding his comments.

    • nellcote

      good to know it wasn’t the reporters applauding.

    • Miranda

      This is just fucking pitiful.

  • Miranda
    • aleth

      is this real life
      Like Kenny said fuck you mayo nation

    • Town

      Who the F is clapping?

      • jds09

        Trump has added a studio audience to his press conferences.

        You cannot make this shit up.

    • jds09

      I suspected it, but now it’s confirmed. Trump will not answer any in-depth question. He will lie then hand it over to someone who will eventually get thrown under the bus.

      • nellcote

        cannot answer a question without one of the kids standing by

  • lamh

    Wait that’s it…MSM should be tired of getting played

    https://twitter.com/psddluva4evah/status/819224638794465281

    • Farrod

      Lamh, I’m gonna follow this @20committee dude, this is quite interesting and makes me feel hopeful….

  • nellcote

    Jon Ralston ‏@RalstonReports 12m12 minutes ago

    So Trump left after fielding and dodging a few questions and now has his lawyer describing handing control to HIS KIDS? Beyond parody.

  • nellcote
  • lamh

    My message to all able minded people in preparation for the next 4 years…

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-g8p07gE5zUA/VlNL_M83dqI/AAAAAAAANno/exv74Yc_SF0/s1600/Wake%2BUp%2Brun.gif

  • Miranda

    We might all be on anti-depressants before this year is out.

    • nellcote

      been thinking it’s a shitty time for the gov to be cracking down on pain killers.

  • nellcote

    Jill Dougherty ‏@jillrussia 37m37 minutes ago

    #Russia TV showing #Trump news conference live. Big interest.

  • nellcote
    • conlakappa

      Last 6? Did the first 2 not count?

      • nellcote

        maybe he just meant russia

  • aleth

    This is sad and nothing legislature is doing because they are invested in power. This is who Machin and Bernie want to work with?

    https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/819225181122129920

    • Miranda

      My timeline is a hot ass mess. People are overwhelmed with the stupidness and ignorance and god knows whatever other adjectives you wanna use. It’s too damn much. The foolishness is coming from everywhere and it’s completely overwhelming.

      • Kennymack1971

        We really are living in a bizarre timeline. We’re really going from the Obamas….to that. I’m just…Damn.

        • nellcote

          for all the lefties advocating “heightening the contradictions”, hope they’re satisfied now.

  • lamh

    Alright…so what am I gonna wear when I win this thing and meet Bae for a Valentines dinner?
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/801eeb5eddc1c2f1c2a504a3daf0f02ddb2ac6a58d07556d8169c356d30bdd96.jpg
    And Who’s gonna go with me?

  • The Shy Lurker

    He just called out Buzzfeed and CNN.
    Reporter from one of those organizations got into it with Mein Drumpf.
    Unbelievable, yet…

  • nellcote

    Craig Harrington ‏@Craigipedia 29m29 minutes ago
    Dear media, he rick rolled you.

    This wasn’t a press conference, this was a staged photo op & stump speech.

    He did it to you again. Sad!

    • The Shy Lurker

      What a disaster.

      Drumpf just said the U.S. gets hacked by everybody. Then names China and Russia amongst the culprits. (I could have sworn he proclaimed Russia was innocent.)Smh.

  • aleth

    Is he wrong? No.
    His followers, press and majority of white males are invested in him.
    So in the end, he will be sworn in on the 20th and the IC destroyed.
    https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/819228330708844544

    • Alma98

      I jsut said the same thing to Farrod. It doesn’t matter what they have on drumpf as long as he’s white there’s no problem.

    • jziglar

      They can’t destroy institutions like the CIA. They are so well entrenched. Honestly Trump better watch his back because I think the CIA will do things to bring him down.

      • sagittarius

        Morning jziglar!

        They already are. Dude is deeply damaged. He cannot govern. Like I said last night, he’s done – only he and his despicables don’t know it.

  • nellcote

    Amy Harder ‏@AmyAHarder 16m16 minutes ago

    .@timkaine on climate probes into Exxon: Do you lack the knowledge or are you refusing to answer my question? Tillerson: “A little of both.”

    • Miranda

      No Dem better vote for any of these clowns.

  • lamh

    All that shilling @CNN did for DJT and he shutting them out…karma’s a bitch

    https://twitter.com/Jenna_Barnes/status/819229632025284608

    • Alma98

      This is how he’s going to do at every news conference and get away with it too. The msm created him so…..

    • aleth

      Expect fawning piece coming soon like NYT.

    • Kennymack1971

      My thoughts exactly.

  • nellcote

    hope someone is keeping a running tally of all the lies at this press con
    Joy Reid ‏@JoyAnnReid 13m13 minutes ago

    Trump just claimed the “real” number of unemployed is 96 million. Is he including children? Because with 242m adults that would be 39%.

  • nellcote

    Kelly Heath ‏@kelly0318 38m38 minutes ago

    lies lies lies *sniff* me me me *sniff* lies lies lies *sniff* me me me *sniff* lies lies lies “I’m the greatest ever”#TrumpPressConference

    • conlakappa

      He went to the press non-conference coked up?!

  • The Shy Lurker

    WHAT A FUCKING JOKE!

  • nellcote

    Julie BykowiczVerified account

    NEW YORK (AP) — Lawyer says Trump to put business assets in trust, but his company will still pursue deals in US while he’s president.

  • lamh

    Did he really say “your fired”

    America…

    https://media.giphy.com/media/7NbNXY0hXaBWw/giphy.gif

    • The Shy Lurker

      Yep.

      Regarding his sons “running” his businesses and whether they would do a good job.
      Dumpster fire.

      • conlakappa

        Murdoch is a sociopath who fired his son(s?). I do not imagine Orange-Gutan has either the moxie or a deep enough business bench to do that.

    • Joy

      When he’s impeached, I need someone to holler “You’re fired” at him as he boards the helicopter.

  • nellcote
    • nellcote

      Jason Karsh ‏@jkarsh 7m7 minutes ago

      BTW, CNN hires Jeffrey Lord, Corey Lewandowski and sucks up to Trump & this is the thanks they get. There’s a lesson for the press in that.

    • Admiral_Komack

      What a clusterfuck.

  • GreenLadyHere

    UH! OH! Sepia♥/POU FAM♥- – :>) **BIG HUG*–GUESS WHAT DAY IT IS?_ -WOOT! WOOT!- – -The DAY FOLLOWING The GREATEST PRESIDENT♥ E-V-A♥’ ADDRESS of the CENTURY♥– -WE HONOR HIM♥

    – – — ☺http://www.capriccio-kulturforum.de/wcf/images/smilies/smiley80.gif

    – — — -☻HONORING- – -This Series:– http://abkhazworld.com/aw/images/img/Ubykh_Abkhaz_Leaders.jpg

    – – – –he felt that the Ethiopian version of the origin of the Abkhazians of African descent is true. . – -LEARNING MUCH. . . :>)

    – – – -B BLESSED♥- — WARM♥- PRAYERFUL♥– –RESISTANT♥ – -:>)

    — -☺http://puddlesgathering.com/blog/ani-mm_popcorn_panda.gif

  • lamh

    @ajreid 19m19 minutes ago
    ICYMI: BBC correspondent says there’s more than one source, more than one tape & more than one date of allegations in Trump intel dossier

  • MsKitty

    If this doesn’t send our allies running to the exits next Friday, I don’t know what will.

    • conlakappa

      I thought they already had left the building!

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia♥- – — Soooo- – -When Was THIS CIRCUS SCHEDULED??_ – -Thought that There was 2 B Presser?

    – – –☺http://www.kosair.com/circus/circusintown.gif

    Absolute CONTRAST in CLASS!- – – from yesterday!!- – -geesh!!

    Annnd – –THEY LET “IT” do it!!! – – -geesh!!

    – – – -☺http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/b48afd4485babf4a5894a26cb670bc868476b43f/c=18-0-622-453&r=x404&c=534×401/local/-/media/2016/01/21/Indianapolis/B9320607428Z.1_20160121163416_000_GVFD7P0IF.1-0.jpg

    They ALL shoulda STOPPED AXin’ questions!!!- – -geesh!!

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia♥- – —TWEET- – -TRUTH!!. . .
    – – -☺meta

    Reminder that @GOP @SpeakerRyan @HouseGOP @SenateMajLdr @SenateGOP all condone the liar, sexual predator, blackmailed fraud who cannot lead.– – –

  • Joy

    Its so cold in this office, my legs are achy.

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia♥- — –Aaaaarrrggg — –U 2520’s DID THIS!!- – -WORD 2 Congress!!– —

    – – – -☺Fjola Ingva
    If you are a republican in Congress and you support this mentally ill person you better rethink and make a move #TrumpPressConference

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia♥- – —She – -AIN’T – –NEVA- – -LIED!!– –

    – – -☺https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyDhCsgbl-8

  • lamh

    This bitch betta not step on anybody’s hood..let her find some white bitches to handle her weave from now on

    @grynbaum 15m15 minutes ago
    Presser ends with Omarosa heckling CNN’s @Acosta

    • Joy

      Karma just laying in the cut. Her fall will be glorious.

      • conlakappa

        Can one fall from such a low level? She’s a flunky.

        • Joy

          But she thinks she’s so much more, so yeah, she can get lower.

      • Admiral_Komack

        …and it will be live.

    • AxelFoley

      And she wonders why no one in her family will talk to her anymore.

  • nellcote

    The Associated PressVerified account
    ‏@AP

    BREAKING: President-elect Donald Trump’s lawyer says he `should not be expected to destroy the company he built’

  • AxelFoley

    Someone, I think on Balloon Juice, had the idea to put up some billboards with President Obama saying “Miss me yet?” like those on the right did with George Bush. Only this time, we really will miss the previous President.

    • jziglar

      For real. President Obama hasn’t even left and many people are already missing him.

    • edp4bho

      “Current” president, for this week atleast.

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia♥– — TWEETIN’– -TRUTH. . .– –

    – – -☺Dan Pfeiffer

    Right now, Trump is a perfect illustration of the threats democracy that President Obama warned about last night– —

    – –THANK U!- —

  • lamh
    • AxelFoley

      This is what the media gets. They spent 8 years being petty with PBO and now they gotta deal with this petulant man-child.

    • Admiral_Komack

      You wanted him…you got him.

  • Miranda

    wut??
    Sen. Inhofe To Elaine Chao: In 30 Years I’ve Never Seen A Nominee “That People Love More Than You.”

  • nellcote

    Ari MelberVerified account‏@AriMelber

    Trump plans to accept & later “donate” hotel room profits from foreign states – Constitution calls for rejection of gifts, not donating them

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia♥– – –MATT- – – -WORD!– –
    — – -☺Matt McDermott
    ‏Takeaways from Trump presser:
    – no detail on Obamacare replacement
    – no limit to conflicts of interest
    – he got offered a bribe this weekend

    Annd THEY LET this happen!!- – -WEAK!- – -FECKLESS msm!!!

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia♥- –<b.Anotha– -SWAMP- -DWELLER!!— -YUCK!!

    – –☺https://twitter.com/ABC/status/819235301973458944

  • lamh

    @KilloughCNN 11m11 minutes ago
    .@Acosta says on CNN that @seanspicer threatened to throw him out of the press conference if he tried to press @realDonaldTrump again

    • When they came for Jorge Ramos, CNN said nothing.

      • Kennymack1971

        Thank you.

        • The media, including CNN, sided with Trump and said Ramos deserved to be thrown out because he was yelling and being rude. Now they want sympathy?

      • rikyrah

        Yep

      • conlakappa

        When their own black staffer was roughed up, they said nothing.

        Isn’t Acosta latino as well?

  • nellcote
  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia♥- – –Aaahhh – CLEAN- – -AIR♥— – :>)

    – – –☺https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/819230348760535040

    WE LOVE U♥- :>)
    – – – – – -☻https://images.gr-assets.com/hostedimages/1410871264ra/11163359.gif

  • nellcote
  • nellcote
  • lamh

    A threat from the #PEEOTUS

    @Mediaite
    Donald Trump: @BuzzFeed Will ‘Suffer the Consequences’ for Posting Dossier http://bit.ly/2iGKd7j (VIDEO)

    • Joy

      See this shit right here should make every media org and every reporter want to nail this muthafucka to the wall.

      • AxelFoley

        Exactly.

      • But they won’t because they’re pissed Buzzfeed scooped their asses.

    • Alma98

      He really doesn’t get it does he? This ain’t his show where he can just go after people because he’s mad at them. Thin skinned bloated jackass.

  • Miranda

    This is so sad….and even worse if you read the whole thing, how people can be bought no matter what…smdh
    ———————-
    Mother who found missing daughter’s pictures on Backpage speaks out
    January 11, 2017, 7:47 AM

    One of the world’s largest classified ad websites is being accused of knowingly facilitating prostitution and child sex-trafficking. Backpage.com shutdown the “adult” section of its website this week after the release of a blistering Senate report that alleges it edited adult ads “to conceal the true nature of the underlying transaction.” Meanwhile, Backpage calls itself the victim of censorship.

    In 2009, Kubiiki Pride found her missing teenage daughter’s pictures on Backpage, which she described as “one of the most painful experiences” she’s ever had. Pride and her daughter appear in the upcoming child trafficking documentary “I am Jane Doe.”

    “She’s still very much broken. She was trafficked for nine months. She was raped. She was physically abused,” Pride said.

    Pride said she unsuccessfully sued Backpage, which according to the Senate report, claims is “a mere host of content created by others,” reports CBS News correspondent Jan Crawford.

    The site makes its money from users who pay to advertise a range of goods and services. The Senate report not only accuses Backpage of teaching its users how to post clean ads for illegal transactions, but also says the site failed to report illegal underage activity.

    Backpage executives plead the fifth during a Senate hearing Tuesday, a day after the release of a scathing report taking aim at the advertising website.

    The 53-pages of documents allege that by late 2010, Backpage altered up to 80 percent of their ads before posting them online “by deleting words, phrases, and images indicative of criminality, including child sex trafficking.”

    “It was clear they were trying to clean up these ads,” Sen. Claire McCaskill said.

    more here: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/backpage-senate-report-accuses-illegal-transactions-underage-sex-trafficking/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab8a&linkId=33274360

    • Alma98

      SMMFH! The first comment, really motherfucker? It’s not consenting adults kids are being sold. Tells me all I need to know about that person.

  • GreenLadyHere

    Sepia♥- – – –TWEETIN’- – -TRUTH. . .

    — –☺https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/819199965222371329

    — –PSST – – 2520’s- –U Were – – -USED annnd — PLAYED!! Annnd. .

    – – – -☻https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ

  • sagittarius

    Morning Fam,

    I hope everyone is engaging in self care. We will make it through this madness. Our President Obama showed us the North Star last night.

    There is a theory floating on the twits that the thing that was selected on Nov 8 cannot read, which is why he doesn’t use a teleprompter. After hearing about his post election rally held today, I’m no longer thinking this is far-fetched. Would explain why he must have handlers.

    Follow the North Star!

    • nellcote

      he’s used a teleprompter before. dyslexic is more probable.

      • Miranda

        When has he actually read from it though?

    • Alma98

      Morning sagi, I’ve been thinking the same thing for awhile sagi. And yesterday it was posted at POU that all his speeches are on a 6th grade level. This makes him even more dangerous, smh.

      • sagittarius

        Afternoon Alma!

        A mind is a terrible thing to watch waste drip from somebody’s body.

    • GreenLadyHere

      Good Morntin’ Sagittarus♥- – -**BIG HUG** — :>)

      – — YES!- – -Such a POSITIVE MEMORY♥- –
      – — –Our President Obama showed us the North Star last night.– – –
      — – — -☻http://pathways.thinkport.org/images/big_dipper.gif

      – – — -☺http://www.naturalnavigator.com/images/star_final.gif.pagespeed.ce.zHjrNwi-bp.gif

      — – – – —200 WORD- – Vocabulary -BOY!!- 6th GRADE Education!- Hmmm. . .

      – — Good 2 C UU♥ :>) – – -B BLESSED♥-U♥/Family♥- – -With PRAYERS 4 JOB♥ :>)

      • sagittarius

        Afternoon GLH!

        Sending thanks, hugs, prayers and blessings to you!

        • GreenLadyHere

          Sagittarius♥- — Always APPRECIATING Your- -BLESSINGS annnd KIND Words♥- – -Very Encouraging♥ :>)- — **HUGS** :>)

  • nellcote
  • Miranda

    Afternoon thread is up!

    • GreenLadyHere

      miranda♥- – -Thank U :>)

    • Alma98

      I do too Sepia 🙁

    • AxelFoley

      Me, too.

    • conlakappa

      Maybe it would be conditioned upon Manning singing about his paymasters?

  • conlakappa

    Woman in office just told me that she is a fan-girl to [Booger] Booker. I probably visibly winced at her applauding his testifying against Sessions. I noted that it’s all about Booger.

    • AxelFoley

      Like I said the other day, Cory’s gearing up for a 2020 run.

  • AxelFoley

    Yeah, buddy! My Cubs are going to the White House on Monday.

    https://twitter.com/hill44/status/819254698289098753

  • AxelFoley

    S’up, lady?