October 31, 2014

Wednesday Open Thread: President Obama and World Leaders

On November 24, 2009, in honor of the arrival of His Excellency Dr. Manmohan Singh, Prime Minister of the Republic of India, and his wife, Mrs. Gursharan Kaur, President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama held the first official State Dinner of the Presidency.

During the visit, the two leaders discussed a range of global, regional, and bilateral issues of shared interest and common concern. The two leaders also continued the strategic dialogue that was launched in July. 2009  and reviewed progress made in the dialogue.

In November, 2010, as leader of the world’s oldest democracy, President Barack Obama capped a  three-day visit to India by delivering a message to the Parliament of the world’s largest democracy.

“We are two strong democracies whose constitutions begin with the same revolutionary words – the same revolutionary words – ‘We the people.’ We are two great republics dedicated to the liberty and justice and equality of all people. And we are two free market economies where people have the freedom to pursue ideas and innovation that can change the world. And that’s why I believe that India and America are indispensable partners in meeting the challenges of our time,” President Obama said to applause.

During this, the President’s first state visit to India, agreements were reached or affirmed in many environmental arenas: clean energy, climate change, food and agriculture, nuclear weapons and civil nuclear power, weather forecasting, Earth observation and space exploration.

On the margins of the President’s trip, trade transactions were announced or showcased, exceeding $14.9 billion in total value with $9.5 billion in U.S. export content, supporting an estimated 53,670 U.S. jobs, according to a statement from the White House.

At a joint news conference in New Delhi,  Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh said, “We have announced specific initiatives in the areas of clean energy, health and agriculture. These include a Joint Clean Energy Research and Development Centre, the establishment of a Global Disease Detection Centre in India and an agreement for cooperation in weather and crop forecasting.”

The concept of a joint clean energy R&D center to be located in India was first agreed during Prime Minister Singh’s state visit to Washington in November 2009. During this visit a Memoradum of Understanding was signed, establishing the center.

The priority areas of focus for the U.S.-India clean energy center are likely to include: solar energy, energy efficiency, biofuels, clean coal technology and an integrated gasification combined cycle project that turns coal into synthesis gas.

Prime Minister Singh and President Obama agreed to work together to develop, test, and replicate transformative technologies to extend food security in India as part of what they called an “Evergreen Revolution,” extending the idea of cooperation between the two countries during the Green Revolution that improved yields in India from 1967 to 1978.
 
President Obama and Prime Minister Singh also agreed to scale-up joint U.S.-India civil space collaboration, including space exploration, Earth observation, and scientific education, declaring, “The possibility of cooperation between the two.”
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  • dannie22

    good morning all!!

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      Mornin’ Dannie and POU!

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    PBO will be on The Tom Joyner Morning Show at 9am EST. Listen here: http://v3.player.abacast.com/player/player.php?pid=reachmedia_tjms

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    REPORT: Fox News Is Taking Karl Rove Off The Air
    Grace Wyler | Dec. 4, 2012, 6:50 PM

    New York’s Gabriel Sherman reports that Fox News is scaling back airtime for Republican pundit Karl Rove, in what appears to be a reprimand for Rove’s meltdown during the network’s live election broadcast.

    Sources told Sherman that Fox News chief Roger Ailes has ordered his staff to bench Rove and his fellow GOP pundit Dick Morris, two of the network’s most vocal partisan voices whose predictions turned out to be spectacularly wrong. According to Sherman, producers must now get permission before booking Rove or Morris on Fox shows.

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karl-rove-2012-12#ixzz2EBQRSzWc

    • creolechild

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAGood morning POUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..HA!

    • GreenLadyHere

      Good WEDNESDAY MORNTIN’ Sepia — -***BIG HUG*** :>)

      BWAHAHA – — -The RE-THUCKERS R in –SUCH DISARRAY!! – –DEY –TURNIN’ on EACH other. LOL – —

      We can STILL – -continue 2 –GLOAT!! – –HAH!- —

      Good news!! – — LOL – —

      Good 2 C U -Sepia. :>) – –

      • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

        Hey GLH! Good to see you, too! Hope everything is OK. :-)

        • GreenLadyHere

          Sepia – —THANK U. BUT – — IMMA continue 2 need the prayers of POU FAM♥ – – -I’ve gotta do some “FAMILY CARE-TAKIN'” – -4 an unspecified amount of time. :>) Therefore, I will B OFF annd ON more FREQUENTLY. – — -Prayin’ 4 strength. AMEN. :>)

          FEELIN’ the SUPPORT of my POU FAM♥ – –with THANKS annnd LOVE.♥ – – –

    • MsKitty

      Ha!

    • Miranda

      *snicker*

    • Daltex82

      So I guess Turd Blossom has started to smell.

      • conlakappa

        Or whatever the Scandinavian term offered by Rose Nylund for the precise moment in which it turns white.

  • rikyrah

    Good Morning , Everyone :)

  • GN

    Re: last night’s troll—I had a really long and nasty day at work yesterday so I was actually pleasantly delighted with the troll which came in here during the late night hours (camille’s smackdown alone is worth the price of admission lol–anyone curious, read the Tuesday evening thread).

    But after laughing, the significance of what he was saying is pretty profound. Reading the troll’s comments, this is someone even angrier at President Obama’s supporters than the President himself. What I detected from the troll was a bitter resignation that Pres O won reelection and hope that Pres O will “stay in his place” so to speak by giving undue influence to the self-important media divas, “personalities” and assorted beltway asshats whose belief in their own intellectual superiority is only eclipsed by the size of their egos and desire for self-promotion.

    The troll seemed more threatened by the idea of regular people who have no political career or media career agendas unabashedly supporting the POTUS, believing in hope, and understanding that regular people can combine efforts to make change. He has been particularly venomous towards the disproportionately of color nature of this site (“ebonics” “ghetto”). I’m rambling, but comments like those from the troll really underscore just how much the present times are shaking up, angering, and scaring the bejeezus out of people who believe in the inferiority of people of color (and women) and would love for us to sit down and shut up unless we’re cosigning suspect fauxgressives and letting them steal our voices. POU, the bitter troll is evidence that yall really do the damn thing all day every day; keep it up!

    • BoomerGal

      They’re angry and afraid of the browning of America, GN. They see the handwriting on the wall. Like I told one on The Hill, “you will soon be extinct.”

    • MsKitty

      Exactly. It wasn’t hurting my feelings one bit, in fact just the opposite. I was highly amused that here was somebody was so consumed with angst and the need to set those clueless negroes straight that they were compelled to throw online temper tantrums in the wee hours.

      Still LMAO about it.

    • Miranda

      Reading the troll’s comments, this is someone even angrier at President Obama’s supporters than the President himself.
      _________________________

      Chile, that troll ain’t nobody but Tavis.

      • jds09

        LOL. Next time someone should ask “Tavis is that you?”

      • Kennymack1971

        Bingo. Or Boyce Watkins..

      • GN

        ___________________________RIP, gn______________

    • jds09

      They are scared. 93% of the AA vote, Asian-Americans and Latinos in the 70s, makes them absolutely crazy. This coalition formed, it formed quietly and it didn’t ask the white liberal power structure for guidance or permission. So back to the default position, “listen to me I know best.”‘

      They may be beginning to understand that we have watched their game since they have started this shit and know it for what it is. When they had the power of a police state behind them, the collective hey-day of the 1950’s. it was easy for them to believe that POC’s valued their opinion on its merits, in 2012 not so much….

      • GN

        Yes, wonderful comment. I think conlakappa said it a few years ago in terms of the angst about PBO from “the left”: he didn’t ask their permission and never kissed the rings of our self-anointed leadership. That he’s such a talented organizer that this really *does* go past one person and into the change that can be created by millions accounts for the venom which trolls have for the entire coalition, and their insistence that we take a back seat to their large-headed media personalities. Glad to be living through this time.

        • TyrenM

          They are scared. 93% of the AA vote, Asian-Americans and Latinos in the 70s, makes them absolutely crazy. This coalition formed, it formed quietly and it didn’t ask the white liberal power structure for guidance or permission.

          “the angst about PBO from “the left”: he didn’t ask their permission and never kissed the rings of our self-anointed leadership.”

          This right here. As spoken by many here, Billary better come with some getright re: Dr. Rice…or else.

          • rikyrah

            amen

        • conlakappa

          Aw, you remember! Yes, the PL, emoprogs, CBC members, old-line civil rights folks. Those like Dr. Lowery got it that the time has changed and the candidate didn’t need to come to them. Why work to establish “I Am a Man” as a standard then be surprised when the man asserts himself as being his own man?

          • GN

            I remember watching a documentary about the procession of people who came out of their homes to greet RFK as he rode by train in death—what PBO has assembled is that coalition of people, and more, and it’s the BEST this country has to offer. I can’t put into words how proud, how awestruck, how verklempt I am with this POTUS. Is he perfect, no–no adult living in the real world is. But what a progress and advancement. And yes, conlakappa, you nailed it some time ago about the spite and anger of those “on the left” who have problems with this.

    • GreenLadyHere

      Good MornTin’ GN. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

      — – -***BIG FIST BUMP***

      – -THIS -> He has been particularly venomous towards the disproportionately of color nature of this site (“ebonics” “ghetto”). I’m rambling, but comments like those from the troll really underscore just how much the present times are shaking up, angering, and scaring the bejeezus out of people who believe in the inferiority of people of color (and women) and would love for us to sit down and shut up unless we’re cosigning suspect fauxgressives and letting them steal our voices.

      NOW I expect him/her 2 come back with – –“SOMMA his/her. – –
      -BEST FRIENDS. . . ” – – – -LOL — –Orrr that WE R “Playin’ da RACE CARD”. – -LOL – -In 5 – -4 – – -3 – -2 – -1. . . LOL

      Good points!! :>) THANK U. :>) Good 2 C U GN. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    – -GOOD WEDNESDAY MORNTIN’ – -POU FAM♥ – – -REAL FAST: – –

    – – -ADP: U.S. adds 118,000 private-sector jobs in Nov. – –

    – – –The U.S. added 118,000 private-sector jobs in November, ADP estimated Wednesday, as 114,000 services jobs were created. The gains were exactly in line with the MarketWatch-compiled estimate. Gains in construction jobs of 23,000 more than offset the 16,000 decline in manufacturing employment, ADP added. The estimated gain from September to October was revised down slightly from the initial estimate of 158,000, to 157,000.

    CONGRATULATIONS – – -MR. PRESIDENT! – –:>) Woo! Hoo! —

    P.S. – -Annnd THIS was NOT a CAMPAIGN MANIPULATION. :>) – – HAH!

  • GreenLadyHere

    POU FAM♥ – – GOOD GOLLY: – – -BIRTHDAY CONGRATULATIONS R IN ORDER: – –Woo! Hoo! – –

    – — –HAPPY 80th BIRTHDAY, LITTLE RICHARD!!! – –

    – – —Today (December 5th) marks rock n’ roll pioneer Little Richard’s 80th birthday. Richard rocketed to stardom in the mid-’50s, when his black eyeliner, bouffant hairdo, and flamboyant performances were hard to ignore. With innovative songs like “Tutti Frutti,” “Lucille,” and “Good Golly Miss Molly,” Little Richard, whose real name is Richard Penniman, earned his place in music history, and by 1968 he had sold an astonishing 32 million records worldwide.

    Since the beginning of his career, Richard has been nothing if not outspoken about his contribution to music. He refers to himself as the “originator, emancipator, and the architect of rock n’ roll,” and many musicians and historians agree. The list of musicians who have cited him as an influence includes the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Elvis Presley, Prince, Billy Joel, Buddy Holly, Led Zeppelin, Elton John, John Fogerty, and Michael Jackson, among others.

    Richard was among the first group of artists inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame in 1986. In 1990, he earned a star on Hollywood’s renowned Walk Of Fame, and in 1993 he received a lifetime achievement award from the National Academy Of Recording Arts And Sciences.
    THERE IS MORE

    – – -A FIRST!! – -CONGRATULATIONS. -:>) – —

    • Town

      I didn’t even know he was still alive!

      • TyrenM

        In Little Richard Voice: Shut up.

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY Town. ***BIG HUG*** :>)

        – — -ALIVE annnnd – –ROCKIN’ annnd ROLLIN’ – – – -Woo! Hoo! :>)

        Good 2 C U – Town. :>)

  • GreenLadyHere

    - -GOOD BEAUTIFUL MORNTIN’ POU FAM♥/ALEXANDER2. – – –WOW&1/2!! – – -COULDN’T WAIT 2 C WHAT TODAY’s SERIES HELD!. :>) – -ANOTHER COLORFUL annnd HISTORICALLY EXCITING TIME in the LIFE of MR. PRESIDENT/FIRST LADY! :>) – –

    – — – -2 FIRSTS: – – –

    – – – – ☻—On November 24, 2009, in honor of the arrival of His Excellency Dr. Manmohan Singh, Prime Minister of the Republic of India, and his wife, Mrs. Gursharan Kaur, President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama held the first official State Dinner of the Presidency. – –

    – — — ☻ —-During this, the President’s first state visit to India, agreements were reached or affirmed in many environmental arenas: clean energy, climate change, food and agriculture, nuclear weapons and civil nuclear power, weather forecasting, Earth observation and space exploration.

    — — >WE CONGRATULATE OUR BELOVED PRESIDENT – –4 his INTERNATIONAL SUCCESSES!! – -WE R THE WORLD!! :>)

    – –ENJOY YOUR – -CHRISTMAS TEA – -4 ALL. :>) -

    THANK U 4 this WONDERful SERIES -ALEXANDER2!! – –B BLESSED. :>)

  • Miranda

    If you listen to this and don’t tear up, then go to the emergency room NOW cuz your heart has stopped.

    Tom Joyner Awards a Tearful Ella Edwards 10k on the TJMS

    Ella Edwards, the mother of a college student who died in 2009 unexpectedly launched an online petition asking the loan company First Marblehead Corp to forgive a $10,000 student loan taken out by her son Jermaine Edwards, that she could not afford to repay,

    Edwards, a 61-year-old who works part-time as a seamstress, had gained over 195,000 signatures for her online petition on the website Change.org. Her son was only 24-years-old when he died of “natural causes.” He was studying music production.

    She joined Jacque Reid for her segment “Inside her Story” this morning on the Tom Joyner Morning Show to explain her story and plea with the loan company to forgive her loans.

    After a tearful plea on the Tom Joyner Morning Show, radio legend Tom Joyner told Ms. Edwards he would pay off her son’s loan that currently totals $10,800 dollars.

    audio link here: http://blackamericaweb.com/77664/tom-joyner-awards-a-tearful-ella-edwards-10k-on-the-tjms/

    • TyrenM

      Score 1 for the “Flyjock.” Where is the “poor people’s campaign” on this?

      • Admiral_Komack

        They’re stocking up on slippers and bean pies.

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2 – —Mr. HARRY was – – -FIRED UP – –ANGRY!! —

    – – – – -Reid Statement on Disabilities Treaty – –

    — – – -Nevada Senator Harry Reid issued the following statement after Senate Republicans blocked a treaty to strengthen the rights of people with disabilities around the world. The Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities was modeled on U.S. law, considered the gold standard on equal opportunity laws for the disabled. It failed by a vote of 61-38. A two-thirds vote is required in the Senate to approve treaties.

    “It is a sad day when we cannot pass a treaty that simply brings the world up to the American standard for protecting people with disabilities because the Republican party is in thrall to extremists and ideologues. The United States is seen as a leader around the world. Today, we had a chance to lead, and we failed because a small group of Republican senators fear the Tea Party more than they care about equality for people with disabilities.

    “Today’s vote wasn’t about Republicans or Democrats. It was about standing up for our heroes – men and women who risked their lives on the battlefield for the United States of America. This treaty was about 57 million Americans who live with a disability. Republicans such as former President George H.W. Bush, Senator McCain and former Senator Bob Dole called on their Republican colleagues to support these Americans. I am saddened those Senators did not listen. Their arguments against the treaty had no basis in fact – the treaty does not change United States law. That is why I plan to bring this treaty up for a vote again in the next Congress. Our wounded veterans and millions more around the world deserve better.”

    – — THANK U. :>) – — -THOSE RE-THUCKERS!! – – –EVIL/VILE – – -DISGUSTING!! —As USUAL!! – –

  • Miranda

    *giggle*

    Right ballistic over Boehner ‘purge’

    House Speaker John Boehner is under fierce attack from conservatives in the blogosphere and on Twitter over his “purge” of several conservatives from top congressional committees, as well as for his offer to fend off the fiscal cliff.

    “#purgeboehner,” tweeted Michelle Malkin, following committee changes that hit members, including Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-Kan.) and Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.).

    “Boehner, GOP leaders purge conservatives from powerful committees; update: Boehner scoffs,” read a headline at Breitbart.com.

    “Tomorrow we should all call John Boehner’s office to remind him to call Congressman Amash,” tweeted RedState.com’s Erick Erickson.

    more here
    http://www.nj.com/us-politics/index.ssf/2012/12/right_ballistic_over_boehner_p.html

    • GreenLadyHere

      Good MornTin’ miranda – –***BIG HUG*** :>)

      LOL —House Speaker John Boehner is under fierce attack from conservatives in the blogosphere and on Twitter over his “purge” of several conservatives from top congressional committees, as well as for his offer to fend off the fiscal cliff.

      SOUNDS as IFF – –Da “B” – – -is GOIN’ – – -OFF da “GOPotty –CLIFF” – — LOL – – —

      YEAH! – –We gon –GLOAT! – –HAH!

      – -YA KNOW dat —BIG GAVEL?? – — — YA MIGHT HAFTA – – -DO THIS!! – — -LOL – —

      Good 2 C U –miranda. :>)

    • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

      The best thing Boehner can do is ignore the noise.

  • Miranda

    HAHAHAHA…..Boehner would gladly hand the gavel back to Pelosi if he could.

    _______________________________________
    McConnell declines to endorse Boehner plan

    Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) on Tuesday declined to endorse a proposal issued the day before from Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) that would raise revenue by $800 billion.

    McConnell kept his distance from a proposal that received a hail of criticism from conservatives, including Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.), a prominent voice in the Senate GOP conference.

    more here
    http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/270901-mcconnell-declines-to-endorse-boehner-debt-plan

    • Kennymack1971

      Orange Julius gets no respect lol.

    • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

      I sense a Tobification coming Boehner’s way.

      • conlakappa

        You think his feet are orange too? I see a scene from Julius Caesar coming Orange Julius’s way. The only question being will it be yon Cassius with the lean and hungry look [Cantor] or some unknown quantity as Brutus giving that unkindest cut.

      • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

        Sepia you got a way with words. That is exactly what he’s in for. McConnell knows that Boehner is going to agree to whatever PBO wants.

  • rikyrah

    The Simpsons explain the Fiscal Cliff

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Lamh – Thanks for the response about Nagin. How do you think he handled NO post-Katrina? I’ve been watching Treme and their portrayal of him is on the negative side.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    ISM services index rises to 54.7% in November
    By Jeffry Bartash

    WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) – The U.S. services sector grew at a slightly faster pace in November, according to the Institute for Supply Management. The ISM said its survey of purchasing managers – the executives who buy supplies for their companies – rose to 54.7% last month from 54.2% in October. Economists surveyed by MarketWatch had expected the index to drop to 53.0%. Reading over 50% indicate more manufacturers are expanding instead of shrinking. Thirteen of the 18 industries tracked by Tempe, Ariz.-based ISM reported growth last month, the same as in October. The ISM’s new-orders index jumped 3.3 points to 58.1% and production climbed 5.8 points to 61.2%, but the employment gauge dropped 4.6 points to 50.3%.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ism-services-index-rises-to-547-in-november-2012-12-05?siteid=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20marketwatch%2Fmarketpulse%20%28MarketWatch.com%20-%20MarketPulse%29

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    U.S. factory orders up 0.8% in October
    By Greg Robb

    WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) – Factory orders rose 0.8% in October, much stronger than expected, the Commerce Department reported Wednesday. Economists polled by MarketWatch had forecast a 0.1% decline in factory orders. Economists had been worried that manufacturing was a weak spot in the recovery. Orders for durable goods in October were revised higher to a 0.5% gain from the prior estimate that they were flat. New orders for nondurable goods increased 1.1%. Shipments and inventories both gained 0.4%. Orders for nondefense capital goods increased 1.8% in the month.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-factory-orders-up-08-in-october-2012-12-05?siteid=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20marketwatch%2Fmarketpulse%20%28MarketWatch.com%20-%20MarketPulse%29

    • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

      PBO is headed for Mt Rushmore.

  • GreenLadyHere

    MEDIA ALERT: – –Da “B” IS ON CNN – –NOW! – — -Sounds like he’s been drankin’. LOL

  • qosine

    I really love FLOTUS hopskotching.

  • Miranda

    I can’t……………..I just can’t even……………………..SMH..this heifer needs her azz whupped repeatedly for this shyt….and this couple is crazy, sorry, but they are. In fact, it appears the whole state of Utah is freaking crazy.

    US married father’s horror after wife places his child with an adopted family without telling him
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2242567/Terry-Achane-Married-fathers-horror-wife-places-baby-adopted-Frei-family-telling-him.html

    Why Utah?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/04/leah-frei-utah-adoption_n_2239398.html

    STL Tribune’s update
    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/55373764-78/achane-adoption-bland-child.html.csp

    • Tafr

      That baby should be returned to her father today! not some 60 days from now. I cannot believe this shit and yes the mother needs her ass whooped.

    • Aquagranny911

      Wasn’t it some group from Utah who basically “bought” children in Haiti after the quake & tried to pass them off as orphans so they could be adopted by ‘christian’ families in the US? They got caught trying to take the children into the Dominican Republic & the leaders got jailed.

      The thing that gets me about this is that adoptive family thinking they have some special “god-given” right to this child like she’s some kind of possession to them & they knowingly broke the law. They don’t even talk about how much they love her or how it would break their hearts to lose her. They just talk about how they wanted another child & by god they deserve it….”We are entitled”

      Where have we heard this kind of caca before? I know it’s evil to say this but there is something really sick in the psyche of Mormons.

      • rikyrah

        you’ll not get one argument from me, AG

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Politics Nation Facebook page asks the following:

    A new poll out this morning finds that 57% of Americans would support Hillary Clinton if she ran to succeed Pres. Obama in 2016.

    Are you one of them?

    My answer: Not if she and The Clinton Camp continue to black ball Ambassador Susan Rice.

    If you’re on Facebook, let Rev Al and Politics Nation know how you feel about The Clintons and the Clintonistas.

    • GN

      Ditto.

    • Aquagranny911

      My answer: No

    • edp4bho

      N-O-period!

  • qosine

    PBO on … Business Roundtable … MSNBC

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia
  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2 —-Oooooweeeee! – —-A BLACK HISTORY-MAKING MOMENT!— —

    – – – – -Three African-American Women Win Rhodes Scholarships

    – — -(L to R) Joy A. Buolamwini, Rhiana E. Gunn-Wright, and Nina M. Yancy – –

    – – -The Rhodes Scholarships, considered by many to be the most prestigious awards given to U.S. college students, were created in 1902 by the will of Cecil Rhodes, an industrialist who made a vast fortune in colonial Africa. Each year, 32 Americans are named Rhodes Scholars. The scholarships provide funds for two or three years of graduate study at Oxford University in Britain. Rhodes Scholars from the United States join students from 14 other jurisdictions including Australia, southern Africa, Kenya, India, and Canada. All told, about 80 Rhodes Scholars worldwide are selected each year for study at Oxford. In 1978 Karen Stevenson of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill was the first African-American woman selected as a Rhodes Scholar. This year, three African American women were among the this year’s group of Rhodes Scholars.

    Joy A. Buolamwini is a graduate of the Georgia Institute of Technology, where she majored in computer science. She is currently working at the Carter Center in Atlanta. She has founded or co-founded three businesses. She plans on a degree in African studies at Oxford.

    Rhiana E. Gunn-Wright is a 2011 graduate of Yale University. She holds a bachelor’s degree in African-American studies and women’s, gender, and sexuality studies. She has been working at Women’s Policy Research in Washington, D.C. Her plan is to obtain a master’s degree in comparative social policy at Oxford.

    Nina M. Yancy is a senior at Harvard University where she majors in social studies. Yancy grew up in the Dallas area but her family recently moved to Chicago. Yancy has had internships at CNN, the Center for American Political Studies and in the British House of Commons. She is a member of the Harvard Ballet Company. She plans on pursuing a master’s degree in global health science as a Rhodes Scholar.
    THERE IS MORE.

    • qosine

      That’s another tie with PBO and Dr. Rice: both have degrees in International Relations; they’re on the same page. Forward . . .

  • GreenLadyHere

    MEDIA ALERT: – —MR. PRESIDENT is ADDRESSING the BUSINESS ROUNDTABLE –NOW. :>) – -[cnn/msnbc] — -

  • qosine

    “That is a game I will not play” PBO

  • conlakappa

    The First Lady in the a gorgeous gown that should have been the story about their first state dinner rather than the idiot Salahis.

    • nellcote

      I’m still pissed about the Salahis stealing the limelight from this truely jaw dropping beautiful gown.

      • conlakappa

        The dress, her hair, her jewelry, her makeup: every single element was stunning. Her shoes, no, I don’t remember! But they must have complemented all of the other pieces.

        • nellcote

          Aside from the amazing dress itself, I love the symbolism and tradition behind it.

          http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2009/11/25/naeem-khan-on-designing-michelle-obamas-priceless-first-state-dinner-dress/

          I hope it goes to the Smithsonium. OMG! Can you imagine the traveling museum show of Michelle’s gowns they’ll have after the Obamas leave the WH? !

          • conlakappa

            I’m sure the National American History Museum has started its negotiations! Remember how the people there worked Aretha to get her inauguration hat crown?

          • nellcote

            I always think of it as a crown too :)

          • qosine

            Yes. Can’t wait.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Sad news for jazz fans…

    Jazz pianist Dave Brubeck dead at age 91
    Howard Reich Arts critic
    10:34 a.m. CST, December 5, 2012

    Dave Brubeck, a jazz musician who attained pop-star acclaim with recordings such as “Take Five” and “Blue Rondo a la Turk,” died Wednesday morning at Norwalk Hospital, in Norwalk, Conn., said his longtime manager-producer-conductor Russell Gloyd.

    Brubeck was one day short of his 92nd birthday. He died of heart failure, en route to “a regular treatment with his cardiologist,” said Gloyd.

    Throughout his career, Brubeck defied conventions long imposed on jazz musicians. The tricky meters he played in “Take Five” and other works transcended standard conceptions of swing rhythm.

    [...] As a humanist, he was at the forefront of integration, playing black jazz clubs throughout the deep South in the ’50s, a point of pride for him.

    “For as long as I’ve been playing jazz, people have been trying to pigeonhole me,” he once told the Tribune.

    MORE: http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/chi-dave-brubeck-dead-20121205,0,7126256.column

    One of my all-time favorite songs: “Take Five” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faJE92phKzI

    RIP Mr. Brubeck.

    • MsKitty

      RIP

    • Miranda

      Wow, I didn’t realize he was that age, thought he was younger. He was an awesome musician.

      RIP

    • GreenLadyHere

      Ohhh. Sepia – —***fist bump*** on –“TAKE 5″ —:>)

      – —Iff I may: – –Dave Brubeck – Take The ‘A’ Train — —

      – – -RIHEP -annnnd – -THANK U – 4 your BRILLIANT MUSIC — -“TAKE YOUR ETERNAL REST” – – -DAVE BRUBECK. – — –

      CONDOLENCES – – FAMILY/FRIENDS/FANS – – – –***raises hand** :>) AMEN – -

    • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

      Paul Desmond had a great sound.

      • Ebogan63

        One of my fave alto players…along with Charlie Parker of course.

        • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

          Don’t get me started on that. Johnny Hodges, Earl Bostic, Jimmy Dorsey, Benny Carter. I’ll stop now.

          • Ebogan63

            I will raise you: Jackie McLean, Eric Dolphy, Lee Konitz, Julian “Cannonball” Adderly, Oliver Nelson, and I will stop there :)

          • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

            You went there.

          • edp4bho

            Ah yes, when music soothed the savaged beast. Or is it breast? Never knew which, but it was real.

    • conlakappa

      I love “Take Five” as well. It was so neat getting to see his sons perform it for him at the Kennedy Center Honors the year he was inducted.

    • rikyrah

      RIP Mr. Brubek

    • Aquagranny911

      I got to hear him play many years ago. It was a real pleasure & I did not realize his age. Dang! Good people have just got to stop dying so much, it’s getting to me.

      Enjoy your next journey, Dave & RIP.

  • http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/ Sepia

    Obama’s top speechwriter has his eyes on the White House exit signs
    By Al Kamen, Published: December 4

    As Team Obama prepares for the president’s second inaugural address, there’s word that White House chief speechwriter Jon Favreau may leave the administration soon thereafter.

    We hear he’s mulling various options but hasn’t made a decision about his second-term plans.

    Favreau was only 27, the youngest chief speechwriter ever, four years ago when he helped craft and edit President Obama’s first inaugural address. And he’s also credited with penning some of Obama’s best stuff during the 2008 campaign.

    MORE: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obamas-top-speechwriter-has-his-eyes-on-the-white-house-exit-signs/2012/12/04/9c6bb6a2-3e3b-11e2-a2d9-822f58ac9fd5_story.html

    • GN

      He has been terrific.

      • conlakappa

        I’m surprised he stuck around this long. I see on Wiki what I’d suspected: the idiot Frum lasted just about a year under the previous occupant and was a lot older than Favreau.

      • edp4bho

        Except, I read where he counts Peggy Noonan as one of his favorite journalist……!!

        • GN

          Yikes, that’s a little crazy indeed.

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2 – — -President Obama Discusses the ‘Fiscal Cliff’ at the Business Roundtable- —

    – —FIRST: – –Sepia: THANK U 4 this.:>) – – DANG satellite –took him off the tv. :>)

    —- — - Washington, DC
    Wednesday, December 5, 2012

    President Obama amde remarks Wednesday about efforts to resolve the so-called “fiscal cliff” when he addresses more than 100 business executives at today’s meeting of the Business Roundtable.

    To date, negotiations between the White House and Congress remain stalled as President Obama and House Speaker Boehner have turned down each other’s proposals to prevent mandated tax increases and spending cuts from taking place at the beginning of the new year.

    The Business Roundtable, an association of chief executive officers of leading U.S. companies, has launched the media campaign, “It’s Time to Act,” encouraging Washington to take action on the so-called “fiscal cliff” during the “lame-duck” session of Congress.

    – – –GR8 –LEADERSHIP – – -MR. PRESIDENT!! :>) – —

  • MsKitty

    I would totally be okay with having their sorority house pelted with eggs or rotten tomatoes.

    “Will Mow Lawn for Weed + Beer” Says Sorority Photo Caption

    A Penn State sorority has apologized after a photo of members wearing sombreros and holding offensive signs circulated on the Internet.

    One of the signs in the photo of Chi Omega sisters says “will mow lawn for weed + beer” and another reads “I don’t cut grass I smoke it.” The two women holding signs are wearing fake mustaches.

    Chapter president Jessica Riccardi tells campus newspaper The Daily Collegian the sisters are sorry for “portraying inappropriate and untrue stereotypes.”

    • Miranda

      They are sorry that they will now be on CNN having to explain themselves, that’s what they’re sorry for.

      • conlakappa

        As the administration of Penn State probably thinks it’s not helping the recovery process. Will now giggle about the amusing things said about the girls in Chi-O when I was in college.

        • Miranda

          Damn, so they are universal with it huh? Cuz I heard some real skanky stories bout the ones at Univ of Florida.

          • conlakappa

            Yep. Un-cute and trying a little too hard to be liked in that way that some sad people can do.

    • PBomb

      They are not sorry for what they did. If they were, they wouldn’t have done this to begin with. It is known for not being diverse and that is something they are trying to work on. They are like the Texas A&M of the East Coast.

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2 – — -LOL – – –GLOATIN’ – – –

    – – – -After Spending $9 Million To Defeat Her, Wall Street Watches Sen-Elect Warren Join Banking Committee – —

    – – —The Huffington Post’s Ryan Grim reported Tuesday that Sen.-elect Elizabeth Warren, a dogged consumer advocate whose critique of Wall Street excess was a centerpiece of her campaign, will join the Senate Banking Committee. Wall Street spent boatloads of money to prevent Warren’s election, but now, as the Center for Responsive Politics noted, she will have oversight of the rules and regulations under which banks operate: – -[Woo! Hoo!] — –

    The securities and investments industry contributed just $245,000 to Warren and spent $3 million supporting her opponent Scott Brown, according to OpenSecrets data from mid-October. The industry was Brown’s top supporter.

    The Financial/Insurance/Real Estate sector followed suit and contributed $6 million to Brown and a puny half-a-million to Warren. Businesses also favored Brown heavily, and his top contributors came straight from Wall Street.And though there wasn’t much outside spending in the race because of a pledge made by the two candidates, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, whose members include business and financial interests, spent $400,000 on the race in support of Brown and against Warren.
    THERE IS MORE

    – — -Ohhhhh –IT’S SUCH a JOY – – -WATCHIN’ – –

    – – – – – – —KARMA — GET DAT – –“W”!!– –

    CONGRATULATIONS – – -SEN.-ELECT — ELIZABETH WARREN.– –

    — -WE R PROUD of U!! :>) – – –

  • Miranda

    Tennessee has decided that it really really wants the crown for dumbest politicians of the century. You have whole counties passing asanine resolutions.

    GOP Tennessee Governor Blasts Critics Of Muslim Adviser

    excerpt:
    Indeed, for the past six months, local groups have launched vicious attacks against Ali, including the GOP in Stewart County, TN, which wrote an outrageous resolution in July on Ali saying she was “an expert in Sharia Compliant Finance which is one of the many ways Islamic terrorism is funded.” Two other counties joined in the condemnation. Even local candidates, like Woody Degan, who was then running for a Republican state senate seat, said Ali’s main function in the governor’s office was to bring in “Sharia money” and to make the office “Sharia compliant.” Degan added, “we’re going to let them bring it into Tennessee and let those proceeds go back to kill our boys.” The Center for Security Policy, an organization run by anti-Islam activist Frank Gaffney, pushed the preposterous charges, saying that the hiring meant that “financial jihadists will soon be targeting the Volunteer state for infiltration and influence operations.”

    more here
    http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/12/05/1284121/samar-ali-haslam-sharia/

    • ch555x

      Pay them no mind. I’ve concluded long ago that many of these folks/counties in TN are of no importance. I haven’t even heard of Stewart County (somewhere out west). You’ll have your scattering of sane folks, but the rest should be written off…it’s a lost cause (pun and no pun)!

    • Aquagranny911

      …”and Jesus wept”…

      Every time I think AZ is the worst something like this pops up.

      • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

        Gaffney makes Santorum look like a cleric.

  • Miranda

    ACORN has perfected the art of time travel. Cool.

    Do Republicans Really Believe ACORN Stole the Election?

    If this poll from Public Policy Polling is any indication, a fair number of Republicans have convinced themselves Barack Obama won re-election with fraud and other nefarious efforts:

    49% of GOP voters nationally say they think that ACORN stole the election for President Obama. We found that 52% of Republicans thought that ACORN stole the 2008 election for Obama, so this is a modest decline, but perhaps smaller than might have been expected given that ACORN doesn’t exist anymore.

    Kevin Drum calls this evidence of the “Fox News effect”—the process by which conservative propaganda outlets convince their viewers of things that just aren’t true—but I think there’s a better, more charitable explanation. In short, a large number of Republicans don’t like President Obama, and when offered a chance to endorse something that signals that dislike, they did it, even if the “something” is absolutely insane.
    http://prospect.org/article/do-republicans-really-believe-acorn-stole-election

    • conlakappa

      I thought it was that one New Black Panther. Have I been lied to?!!!

      • nellcote

        They hooked up, now it’s the New Black Acorn Party.

        • Miranda

          LOL!

      • jds09

        It’s both, an coordinated effort. I heard about it at last month’s official black people meeting

        • conlakappa

          Once again, I wasn’t invited. Is this still about the debbled egg incident last March? Dang, you black folk can hold a grudge!

    • qosine

      Delusions die hard, I guess. So dumb.

      • conlakappa

        Well, it cannot be that it’s because they had a bad candidate with a bad campaign and bad surrogates, can it?!!!

        • Aquagranny911

          …or a candidate who lied like the proverbial rug & stalked around like an Indonesian rod puppet…

          • conlakappa

            That would fall under the general category of “bad candidate.”

          • Aquagranny911

            LOL! I was just being “literal.”

  • MsKitty

    Papa John’s, Applebee’s And Others Pay Huge Price For Anti-Obamacare Politicking

    According to YouGov BrandIndex, a leading marketing survey that measures brand perception in the marketplace (called “Buzz”), Papa John’s had good reason for concern as the pizza chain’s brand identity has plummeted from a high of 32 on election day, to a remarkably low score of 4 among adults who have eaten at causal dining restaurants during the past month.

    Ouch.

    Papa John is not alone in his anti-Obamacare misery.

    Fast food server, Applebee’s, possessed a healthy Buzz score of 35 before Zane Terkel, CEO of one of the company’s largest franchisees, appeared on television to complain about the law and to announce that he would not be building more restaurants or hiring any more workers in response to his objections to Obamacare.

    Applebee’s “pre-Terkel” Buzz score of 20 now sits at a pathetic 5.

    • qosine

      I’m so happy to read this. I struck them off my buy list, and it looks like a bunch of others did too. Victory!

    • jds09

      It’s shocking how dumb these Captains of Industry are. Seriously, have they ever heard of social media? Sheesh….

    • nellcote

      Are there any big-box craft stores like Michael’s that DON’T have asshole owners? I don’t eat at franchise food outlets so it’s not like I can boycott them but I do spend too much money at art/craft stores and I’d rather not contribute to asshole owners.

      • Miranda

        What?!?!? Michael’s too??? Dammit!!

        • nellcote

          Wait! I don’t know about Michael’s. I was just using that as an example.

          • Aquagranny911

            Michael’s is okay as far as I know. It’s HobbyLobby that needs boycotting. I use to like them way more than Michael’s but I won’t shop there anymore.

            I’ve been getting things at local places or on line.

          • conlakappa

            I thought it was on the list of places with Bain ties/founder with donations to Mittens/ some such. I remember gnashing of teeth/rending of cloth when it was revealed.

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2- – – -LOL – -The —IMAGERY! – – -BWAHAHA! – —

    – –Casual Observation – —

    I think Roger Ailes has it all wrong. He shouldn’t ban Karl Rove and Dick Morris from Fox News. He should make their attendance mandatory and require them to sit in the corner with dunce caps on at all times. Occasionally, he should have a panelist ask their opinion of something or other only so their response can be mocked and derided as ridiculous. Pat Caddell should probably join them in the corner. – – LOL – —

    ——NOT A BAD IDEA! LOL – – –

  • Daltex82

    Any Sons of Anarchy fans here?

    This show….wow! Last night’s season finale was even better than I expected. I don’t know if they are returning for another season, but it would be interesting to see if they could top this one.

    • nellcote

      That show’s a guilty pleasure. So Shakespearean beneath the surface.

      • qosine

        Really? Will/Do they do reruns?

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2 — – –BEEN LOOKIN’ 4 a FULL PIC of that BLACK/WHITE-SILVER DRESS. :>) — –

    IT/SHE is STUNNING!! :>) –

    — – – – -BUT – -THIS is FAB – -ALSO. :>) —

    GR8 PICS :>)

    • qosine

      Wow, she looks GREAT

      • GreenLadyHere

        HEEY qosine. ***BIG HUG** :>)

        – -***BIG – -fist bump*** — -In ANYTHING –that SHE WEARS! :>) —

        – – –Sooo Good 2 C U qosine♥. :>) – -

        • qosine

          I believe PBO likes THAT dress on HER alot. LOL

          • GreenLadyHere

            LOL qosine. — -***FIST BUMP** – — -ON DA REALZ! :>) – – -

    • nellcote

      What was the occasion for that dress?

  • Alma98

    Good afternoon everyone. GLH I hope your situation is a little better today I’m still sending good thoughts your way.

  • http://themidnightsolution.blogspot.com LTMidnight

    I love me some bacon, but you are not helping Councilwoman.
    _________________________________

    Detroit Councilwoman Wants Government ‘Bacon’ In Return For Supporting Obama

    According to Detroit Councilwoman JoAnn Watson, President Obama owes the city some government ‘bacon’ for supporting him in the 2012 election. She believes Detroit is in desperate need of a government bailout but, until now, the White House has announced no plans to do so.

    In a recent council meeting, Watson said, “Our people in an overwhelming way supported the re-election of this president and there ought to be a quid pro quo and you ought to exercise leadership on that.”

    Watson says it’s been done before and if a city needs help, “that’s what you do”:

    “After the election of Jimmy Carter, the honorable Coleman Alexander Young [Detroit’s former mayor], he went to Washington, D.C. and came home with some bacon.”

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/detroit-councilwoman-wants-government-bacon-in-return-for-supporting-obama/

    • Miranda

      *facepalm*

    • nellcote

      What’s the deal with Detroit politicians? They seem to often say stupid stuff like that.

    • MsKitty

      Trifling

  • GreenLadyHere

    ALEXANDER2 – – -WHEW LAWD! — –THIS – -is –Soooo TRUE!! – – –

    – – -Failed Republican Economics are at the Root of America’s Decade of Economic Woe – –

    – – -Blame is the act of holding responsible, or making negative statements about, an individual or group that their action or actions are socially or morally irresponsible, and as the nation nervously waits to see whether or not President Obama and Republicans can reach an agreement on the dreaded fiscal cliff, someone will take the blame if there is no deal. Many Americans are worried there will not be a deal and across the board tax hikes and spending cuts will send the economy into a recession if the two sides fail to reach an agreement, and if the cuts and tax hikes go into effect early in 2013, there is sure to be plenty of blame targeting each side for not negotiating in good faith and reaching a compromise that both sides can live with. However, a recent poll shows nearly half of Americans think the President and Republicans will not find common ground to avoid the fiscal cliff that 64% of Americans think will have a major effect on the economy.

    In the ABC/Washington Post poll, 49% of Americans think there will not be an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff, and a substantial 53% of Americans believe Republicans in Congress will be to blame versus 27% who think President Obama shoulders the responsibility if there is no fiscal cliff deal. Within the poll, 64% think the fiscal cliff will have a “major” effect on the economy, 60% think the effect will be negative, and 43% say it will have a major effect on their personal financial situation; 61% say that effect will be negative. The poll’s results do not bode well for Republicans who are intransigent on raising tax rates on the wealthiest 2% of income earners and instead, propose closing tax loopholes coupled with drastic spending cuts that affect the poor, middle class, and elderly in a reiteration of failed presidential candidate Willard Romney’s tax plan.
    THERE IS MORE. —TRUTH!!

    – — -CAIN’T say IT ENUFF! — -HAH! – – –

    [Gotta "bounce" --MISSIN' U/CARRYIN' U - -IN MY♥ --B BLESSED♥]

  • rikyrah

    This Isn’t a Draw
    by BooMan
    Wed Dec 5th, 2012 at 02:07:53 AM EST

    I think this Yuval Levin piece is pretty insightful. I don’t agree with him about the unaffordability of the Democrats’ social welfare state and I am fully cognizant that ObamaCare actually improves our balance sheet rather than contributing to our deficit, but other than those two quibbles I see Levin’s landscape as accurate. The Democrats (as opposed to their progressive wing) are pretty much done building the social welfare state. What they want to do is shore it up financially and implement the health care reforms. They know that they need more revenue to accomplish this on a sound basis. And they know that they will never get the needed revenue if they can’t get it now. The Republicans want to deny the Democrats new revenue for precisely these reasons and, as a result, neither side sees compromise as remotely acceptable.

    Where I think Mr. Levin is wrong is in thinking that the battle is still ongoing. You can’t keep everything locked in trench warfare when your side only controls one half of Congress and the other side has the presidency. We can’t have four more years of battles over the debt ceiling. We can’t have four more years of total obstruction in the Senate. The Democrats have to be allowed to implement their policies. There is just no way to maintain the status quo. In the end, the Democrats will get their revenues and implement ObamaCare.

    I think Mr. Levin has described the current conflict quite accurately and his analysis helps explain why the Republicans seem incapable of accepting reality and cutting their losses. But it doesn’t ultimately matter whether the Republicans get rolled in December or January. They lost the argument when they lost the elections. And they now know that they have no route back to the White House. There is really no possibility that they can win a national election with their current constituencies. If Hillary runs, she wins. She wins two terms. But almost any Democrat will beat almost any Republican as long as the GOP is beholden to a base that is this intolerant of and alienating to the majority of Americans.

    They have suffered their own Waterloo, and they don’t even seem to know it.

    http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/12/5/2753/50156

  • rikyrah

    Paul Ryan and conservatives have not gotten the message of this election
    Posted by Jamelle Bouie on December 5, 2012 at 11:32 am

    Since the election, conservatives have begun to voice the need for an approach that addresses middle class concerns, acknowledges that the free market doesn’t always yield perfect outcomes, and allows for a role in government to protect the market’s excesses.

    For instance, Paul Ryan is now moderating conservative economic rhetoric. Last night, at a Washington tribute dinner to conservative icon Jack Kemp, Paul Ryan offered some implicit criticism of Mitt Romney’s “47 percent” remarks, in which the former Republican presidential candidate disparaged nearly half the country as “dependent” on government and unable to “take responsibility for their lives.”

    But are Ryan and conservatives really changing? Here’s what Ryan said:

    “Both parties tend to divide Americans into ‘our voters’ and ‘their voters,’ ” Mr. Ryan said. “Let’s be really clear: Republicans must steer far clear of that trap. We must speak to the aspirations and anxieties of every American.”

    This, of course, runs counter to the rhetoric Ryan has used for his entire political career. Just this August, Ryan told a group of conservative scholars that President Obama’s policies were creating more “takers” than “makers” in society.* Earlier this year, Mother Jones released a brief video collecting almost every instance where Paul Ryan divided the American public into “makers” (the wealthy “job creators” of Republican rhetoric) and “takers” (those who receive direct government benefits).

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2012/12/05/paul-ryan-and-conservatives-have-not-gotten-the-message-of-this-election/

  • rikyrah

    GOP to Obama: no stimulus for you
    By Steve Benen – Wed Dec 5, 2012 11:05 AM EST.

    Rachel made the case on the show the other night that while deficit reduction is the talk of the town — if the town is Washington, D.C. — but given the larger economic circumstances, what policymakers ought to be focusing on is job creation and growth, not new ways to take money out of the economy.

    Any chance Congress might be inclined to agree? Apparently not.

    Republicans and Democrats are struggling to find common ground on a long-term debt deal. But as economic growth has weakened this quarter, they are at odds over what the flagging recovery needs in the immediate future, too.

    The Obama administration is arguing that the sluggish economy requires a shot in the arm, and it included tens of billions of dollars of little-noticed stimulus measures in its much-noticed proposal to Congressional leaders last week. But Republicans have countered that the country cannot afford to widen the deficit further, and have balked at including the measures in any eventual deal.

    ………………………………

    For another, we’re still feeling the effects of a brutal recession, unemployment is still way too high, and there are plenty of economic storm clouds hovering. The American mainstream wants Washington to focus on getting Americans back to work and making the struggling recovery more robust, and Democrats are prepared to do that with policies that Republicans have traditionally supported, including the payroll tax break.

    For now, GOP policymakers simply don’t seem to care

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/12/05/15697231-gop-to-obama-no-stimulus-for-you?lite

  • rikyrah

    The election wasn’t just about taxes and the deficit. It was also about jobs.
    Posted by Greg Sargent on December 5, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    The $1.6 trillion in tax hikes in the White House’s fiscal cliff proposal is the main focus of the political argument right now, but the plan also contained an array of economic stimulus measures, such as $50 billion in infrastructure spending to create jobs. And Republicans are balking not just at the tax hikes on the rich, but at the call for more stimulus spending, too, claiming that more spending to create jobs will widen the deficit.

    So perhaps it’s time for a reminder: This election wasn’t just about taxes and the deficit. It was also about whether government should invest more in job creation. And the electorate’s verdict was: Yes, it should.

    …………………………………..

    Republicans will argue that during the campaign Obama cleverly couched the call for more spending in benign language about government “investment” in the middle class. There’s some truth to that. It’s also true that Obama didn’t campaign that directly on the specific job creation proposals in the American Jobs Act. And it should be noted that polls showed strong public skepticism about Obama’s first stimulus and about the general idea that government can create jobs. But here again, when the talk turned to specifics, public skepticism about government action on the economy suddenly disappeared: Polls also showed overwhelming support for specific government job creation policies, such as infrastructure spending.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2012/12/05/the-election-wasnt-just-about-taxes-and-the-deficit-it-was-also-about-jobs/

  • PBomb

    Interesting about the poll breakdown for a potential Hillary Clinton 2016 campaign….
    _______________________________________________________________

    Hillary in 2016? Popular Idea

    Carried by a new high in personal popularity and broad approval of her work as secretary of state, Hillary Clinton closes out her diplomatic career with majority support as a candidate for president in 2016.

    Fifty-seven percent in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll say they’d back a run by Clinton to succeed Barack Obama, vs. 37 percent opposed. That includes a broad gender gap – 66 percent support for Clinton among women, dropping to 49 percent among men.

    Clinton is expected to step down soon from her leadership of the State Department, a position she accepted after narrowly losing the Democratic presidential nomination to Obama in 2008. She’s demurred on the prospect of another bid for the presidency.

    -snip-

    In addition to the gender gap there are sharp differences between age and racial groups, generally similar to Obama’s support patterns. Young adults, age 18 to 29, support Clinton for president by nearly 2-1; that falls to an even split among seniors. And while she gets 52 percent support among whites, that jumps to 70 percent among nonwhites, a strongly Democratic group.

    Clinton does less well among nonwhites than did Obama, who won re-election with 80 percent of their support last month. That said, while majorities of white men and married men say they’d oppose a Clinton candidacy, she’s backed by more than six in 10 white women and married women – two groups that Obama lost.

    Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-wins-high-popularity-majority-support-2016-120211857–abc-news-politics.html

  • rikyrah

    Suddenly in Michigan: A move to ban union shops
    By Laura Conaway – Wed Dec 5, 2012 1:30 PM EST.

    Labor unions crossed Michigan Governor Rick Snyder this year, and now he seems intent on making them pay. Snyder had said he was against a ban on union shops known as a “Right to Work” law — or as unions describe it, “Right to Work for Less.” Playing peacemaker, he also opposed the unions trying to pass a referendum enshrining collective bargaining rights in the state constitution. The unions went ahead, the referendum lost, and now Snyder says the unions have to pay.

    The Detroit Free Press headline on this reads: “Gov. Rick Snyder now says right-to-work is ‘on the agenda.’ ” A few paragraphs in, we learn that Snyder is willing to make a deal:

    He did say that there is a view that unions must put something on the table if right-to-work is not to proceed, after having gone ahead with a collective bargaining ballot proposal against his urging in last month’s election.

    With clear Republican majorities in the state House and Senate, Snyder could conceivably get a union-stripping bill sent to his desk and signed quite quickly. It’s not clear what unions would have to give up in order to ransom their collective bargaining rights. Now that Snyder has changed his mind, the fight in Michigan seems to be totally on.

    After the jump, a couple charts on the effects of Right to Work.

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/12/05/15702400-suddenly-in-michigan-a-move-to-ban-union-shops?lite

    • Aquagranny911

      Dang! Michigan has been taking a beating. Their governor is just pure evil & they have two more years of this caca since I don’t think they can do recall in their state.

  • rikyrah

    The Morning Plum: Why Obama won’t negotiate with GOP over debt ceiling
    Posted by Greg Sargent on December 5, 2012 at 9:09 am

    So here’s the latest on the fiscal cliff talks: Republicans have edged closer to yielding on middle class taxes — but they may now swing the gun in the direction of a new hostage, i.e., the debt ceiling.

    The New York Times reports that Republican leaders, running low on options, may buckle and agree to extend just the middle class tax cuts. Then, in January, they will resume the fight to get the deep entitlement cuts they want by refusing to raise the debt ceiling again:

    Republican leaders could take up legislation already passed by the Senate to extend tax cuts on income under $250,000, attach a deferral or cancellation of the automatic spending cuts, and give Mr. Obama nothing else, denying requests for increased infrastructure spending, help for homeowners to refinance their mortgages, and extensions of the payroll tax cut and unemployment insurance.

    Then Republicans would demand deep concessions on spending and changes to Medicare and Social Security as a price to raise the debt ceiling a few weeks later. Republicans say any such decision to follow that course is still a ways off.

    In this scenario, Republicans are simply exchanging one mode of extortion for another one. If that sounds harsh, remember that Mitch McConnell has explicitly confirmed that Republicans view the prospect of future debt ceiling battles in precisely these terms — as a perennial way to force ever more spending cuts. After the 2011 debt limit battle, McConnell said that Republicans had learned that it is a “hostage that’s worth ransoming,” because it “focuses the Congress” on cutting spending.

    So here’s a prediction: If this happens, Obama will refuse to negotiate over the debt limit, just as he’s refusing to negotiate over tax rates on the rich. The message will be clear: We’re not talking, if the debt ceiling — and the nation’s economy — have a gun pointed at their head.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2012/12/05/the-morning-plum-why-obama-wont-negotiate-with-gop-over-debt-ceiling/

  • rikyrah

    Rove, Morris find themselves on Fox’s bench
    By Steve Benen – Wed Dec 5, 2012 9:51 AM EST.74

    Republican pundits did not fare well during the 2012 election season, and few did as much lasting damage to their reputations as Karl Rove and Dick Morris. The former had a strange, on-air tantrum on election night and running a wildly-unsuccessful campaign operation; the latter guaranteed a Romney landslide, then later admitted he lied as part of a larger partisan agenda.

    The post-election soul searching going on inside the Republican Party is taking place inside Fox News as well. Fox News chief Roger Ailes, a canny marketer and protector of his network’s brand, has been taking steps since November to reposition Fox in the post-election media environment, freshening story lines — and in some cases, changing the characters.

    According to multiple Fox sources, Ailes has issued a new directive to his staff: He wants the faces associated with the election off the air — for now. For Karl Rove and Dick Morris — a pair of pundits perhaps most closely aligned with Fox’s anti-Obama campaign — Ailes’s orders mean new rules. Ailes’s deputy, Fox News programming chief Bill Shine, has sent out orders mandating that producers must get permission before booking Rove or Morris.

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/12/05/15697443-rove-morris-find-themselves-on-foxs-bench?lite

    Now, both men will be seen less often on their network of choice. Gabriel Sherman has the scoop.

    • http://oldhollywood.net/ woody45

      “The former had a strange, on-air tantrum on election night”

      There was nothing strange about it. Rove knew he had bet the farm using other people’s money and lost. That was trying to slow down the inevitable.

      Morris got exposed for what he’s always been. A fraud.

  • rikyrah

    Rove, Morris find themselves on Fox’s bench
    By Steve Benen – Wed Dec 5, 2012 9:51 AM EST.74

    Republican pundits did not fare well during the 2012 election season, and few did as much lasting damage to their reputations as Karl Rove and Dick Morris. The former had a strange, on-air tantrum on election night and running a wildly-unsuccessful campaign operation; the latter guaranteed a Romney landslide, then later admitted he lied as part of a larger partisan agenda.

    The post-election soul searching going on inside the Republican Party is taking place inside Fox News as well. Fox News chief Roger Ailes, a canny marketer and protector of his network’s brand, has been taking steps since November to reposition Fox in the post-election media environment, freshening story lines — and in some cases, changing the characters.

    According to multiple Fox sources, Ailes has issued a new directive to his staff: He wants the faces associated with the election off the air — for now. For Karl Rove and Dick Morris — a pair of pundits perhaps most closely aligned with Fox’s anti-Obama campaign — Ailes’s orders mean new rules. Ailes’s deputy, Fox News programming chief Bill Shine, has sent out orders mandating that producers must get permission before booking Rove or Morris.

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/12/05/15697443-rove-morris-find-themselves-on-foxs-bench?lite

    Now, both men will be seen less often on their network of choice. Gabriel Sherman has the scoop.

  • Miranda

    Afternoon thread is up!

  • Miranda

    Afternoon thread is up!

  • Aquagranny911

    Love, Love, Love our First Family! Thank you Jesus y Maria & all our good voters for keeping them in the WH for four more years!

  • malletgirl02

    My co-worker was going on about how “we were going over a fiscal cliff and Obama is taking a vacation”. In reality President Obama is making a state visit to India. This is why I tune out that particular co-workers.

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